I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 and another on Jan 6. Anyone feel like braving the cold and snow with me?

Also if anyone goes down to use the AIC be advised that Dave Probert reports he couldn't get in. The gate is frozen in place with snow and ice and will require some hacking. If someone goes down before Thursday and hacks it open please let me know so I don't have to go early to chop my way into the observatory.


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David Ill be glad to come help out on Sat nite. Shelley

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From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:27 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell


I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 and another on Jan 6. Anyone feel
like braving the cold and snow with me?

Also if anyone goes down to use the AIC be advised that Dave Probert reports
he couldn't get in. The gate is frozen in place with snow and ice and will
require some hacking. If someone goes down before Thursday and hacks it open
please let me know so I don't have to go early to chop my way into the
observatory.


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At 09:27 AM 1/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 ... Anyone feel like braving the 
>cold and snow with me?

I can help on the 4th.

Roger

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  From: Shelley Granger 
  To: ASKC@egroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 11:26 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Powell


  David Ill be glad to come help out on Sat nite. Shelley


  kooel, I'll let you know if they cancel or confirm


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  At 09:27 AM 1/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
  >I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 ... Anyone feel like braving the 
  >cold and snow with me?

  I can help on the 4th.


  Kooel. I plan to go early to chop and burn my way into the observatory.



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If you've still got those "eclipse shades" that proved generally 
useless around here on Christmas, break them out this afternoon.  
There are a pair of spots located almost due center on the sun which 
are easily visible thru the shades.  It reminds me of the view thru a 
"Copperhead" rife-scope pointing device - a circle with a dot in the 
center! 

-Dave Dembinski

David Young wrote:
> 
> I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 and another on Jan 6. Anyone feel like braving the cold and snow with me?
> 
> Also if anyone goes down to use the AIC be advised that Dave Probert reports he couldn't get in. The gate is frozen in place with snow and ice and will require some hacking. If someone goes down before Thursday and hacks it open please let me know so I don't have to go early to chop my way into the observatory.
> 
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Dave,

I can lend a hand.

Joe

David Young wrote:
> 
>   At 09:27 AM 1/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
>   >I have a scout group at Powell on Jan 4 ... Anyone feel like braving the
>   >cold and snow with me?
> 
>   I can help on the 4th.
> 
>   Kooel. I plan to go early to chop and burn my way into the observatory.
> 

Dave,

What time?  I can be there early also.  I also intend to help both
nights.  

Joe

  Dave,

  What time?  I can be there early also.  I also intend to help both
  nights.  


  I'm going to shoot for about 5:30 to allow time to fight our way in. This is a rescheduled group so I'm hoping the forecast for a clear night is accurate. brrr themometer indicates it's 6 degrees outside now. I think I'll sleep in tomorrow morning! Hmmm. nutting on da tube but "The Bugs Bunny Road Runner Movie" and I've already seen that one. Guess I should call it a night.



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David:  Joe had a bunch of us looking at the sunspot on New Year's Day.
Pretty cool.

Tom

Is tomorrow morning supposed to be the Quadrantid meteor shower max?
I think I saw something saying tomorrow before dawn?
I don't know if I can drag myself out from under a warm down comforter to
look, but some of you early risers might be on the look-out. If the weather
cooperates.

kathy

The data I saw says the peak is near 6:00AM tomorrow.  Early morning freeze 
fest anyone?


At 18:35 1/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Is tomorrow morning supposed to be the Quadrantid meteor shower max?
>I think I saw something saying tomorrow before dawn?
>I don't know if I can drag myself out from under a warm down comforter to
>look, but some of you early risers might be on the look-out. If the weather
>cooperates.
>
>kathy
>
>
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I Belive it is after midnight tonight peeking before dawn. Shelley

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From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:35 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Quadrantids?


Is tomorrow morning supposed to be the Quadrantid meteor shower max?
I think I saw something saying tomorrow before dawn?
I don't know if I can drag myself out from under a warm down comforter to
look, but some of you early risers might be on the look-out. If the weather
cooperates.

kathy


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Yes Kathy, Wednesday the 3rd is liste in the Observer's Handbook. I don't
rise quite early enough but am looking forward to hearing reports from those
who do.

Gary

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From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 6:35 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Quadrantids?


Is tomorrow morning supposed to be the Quadrantid meteor shower max?
I think I saw something saying tomorrow before dawn?
I don't know if I can drag myself out from under a warm down comforter to
look, but some of you early risers might be on the look-out. If the weather
cooperates.

kathy


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From David Dunham, Dr. Yanagisawa and Dr. Ohnishi:

I received this message at work, just read it earlier this evening.
I am recording the dark side of the Moon now (very clear in Maryland),
mainly the northern part of the dark side since the Quadrantid
radiant is in northern Bootes.  Confirming videorecordings are sought
tonight and tomorrow night (up to 10h UT Jan. 4 UT).


> From: M. Yamamoto [SMTP:yamamoto@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2000 2:00 PM
> To:   Join@...
> Subject:      [JOIN:3018] [shinsuke.abe@...: [nms 13843] [FW;] 
Lunar
> Meteor]
> 
> Lunar flashes due to the precipitating flux of the Quadrids are 
> expected to be occured on Jan. 3, 2001, and the video observations 
> of the phenomena are called for by Dr. Yanagisawa and Dr. Ohnishi.
> 


David Dunham, IOTA


Joan and David Dunham
7006 Megan Lane
Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-4722
dunham@... 

Dave,

No chopping required.  You can leave your sledge hammer home as the left
gate will open.  The yoke is bent just enough to let it go in with the chain
off.  Joe and I took care of that a week ago.

I went out yesterday afternoon and checked the classroom.  The gate post is
still frozen, so I cleared the snow from the fence to the building door and
then placed ice melt on path and around the pole on the gate.  Hopefully it
will melt with the warm temps and then not re-freeze.

I put a new bulb in the storeroom and the lamp for the 30" "dew heater".

The temp in the kitchen was 30 degrees and the heater was not running so I
raised it a bit.

There was a column of ice in the outer bathroom sink from a water drip "from
the spout".

The heater blower motor in the mens bathroom needs oil so I turned it down
and the womens up and left the "inside doors" open in the bathroom.

  The electric meter lady came and was glad I had been able to get access
for her to reset the max load meter settings while she was there.

I hope to go out today and put some oil on that blower.

Hopefully things will be in order for the 4th party.

Dick T.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 11:44 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Powell -- Jan 4


  Dave,

  What time?  I can be there early also.  I also intend to help both
  nights.


  I'm going to shoot for about 5:30 to allow time to fight our way in. This
is a rescheduled group so I'm hoping the forecast for a clear night is
accurate. brrr themometer indicates it's 6 degrees outside now. I think I'll
sleep in tomorrow morning! Hmmm. nutting on da tube but "The Bugs Bunny Road
Runner Movie" and I've already seen that one. Guess I should call it a
night.



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  No chopping required.

  Extremely excellent! Thanks Dick. I wasn't looking forward to hacking away a bunch of ice. I was thinking of going down a day early to make sure I could get in and check the place out. You saved me a trip! 

  Thanks again!


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From D. Dunham, and posted on the IOTA website:

Bright lunar occultations will be visible from most of the Northern 
Hemisphere during the next few nights:


1. 4th-mag. delta 1, 2, and 3 Tauri will be occulted by the 88% 
    sunlit Moon on Saturday night, January 6, in eastern North
    America (near sunset) and in Europe.


2. 3.0-mag. zeta Tauri will be occulted by the 96% sunlit waxing
    Moon on Sunday night, January 7-8, for most of North America.


3. 3.5-mag. delta Geminorum will be occulted by the totally-eclipsed
    Moon from the Orient, and most of Asia; it will also be occulted
    in Europe, but in the bright penumbra before totality.


4. Did anyone time any occultations this year before 1h 36m 08.8s UT
    of January 1?  If not, then I claim to have timed the first
    occultation of the new millenium.  Frank Anet recorded the first
    graze of the new millenium about 20 minutes later.


Predictions for the delta Tauri occultations for hundreds of North 
American cities can now be found at IOTA's Web site at
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota
along with region-of-visibility maps.  Predictions for European 
cities and for the grazes visible at the limits will be posted soon
(probably by 3h UT Jan. 5), and information and maps about the zeta 
Tauri and delta Geminorum occultations will also be added.  A little 
more description of the above items is given below.
_____________________________________________________________________


1. 4th-mag. delta 1, 2, and 3 Tauri will be occulted by the 88% 
    sunlit Moon on Saturday night, January 6, in eastern North
    America (near sunset) and in Europe.


    Predictions for a few cities are given on p. 118 of this month's 
issue of Sky and Telescope, but there, delta 1 Tauri = ZC 648 (mag. 
3.8) is called just "delta Tau"; delta 2 Tauri = ZC 653 (mag. 4.8) 
is called "64 Tau"; and delta 3 Tauri = ZC 658 (mag. 4.3) is called 
"V776 Tau".  On the IOTA site, times are given for cities throughout 
North America, but those in the western and central part of the 
continent have the occultations occurring in broad daylight.  Also 
in the Jan. S&T, p. 108, is a photo of the Hyades that labels delta 
1 and 3 Tauri; delta 2 Tauri is east and a little south of delta 1. 
Although predictions are given for the bright-side reappearances, 
these events will be impossible to time accurately due to the 
overwhelming brilliance of the sunlit part of the Moon, but the 
dark-side disappearances will be spectacular in any small telescope.
The grazes will be rather difficult to observe even if they are on 
the dark side, since they will be close to the cusp where there will 
be interference from nearby sunlit peaks; if they occur on the 
sunlit limb (negative cusp angle), they will not be observable.


     Especially delta 1 might be seen with the Sun a few deg. above 
the horizon.  Its disappearance will occur at sunset from Delaware 
to Buffalo, NY and central Ontario.  The southern limit (graze) 
crosses southern France, northern Italy, the Balkans, and Turkey 
(near Istanbul).


    The southern limit of the delta 2 occultation crosses northern
Ireland, southern Scotland, n.e. Germany, n. Poland, Belarus, n.e. 
Ukraine, and on to the Caspian Sea.


    The delta 3 disappearance will occur at sunset from 
approximately Florida to Iowa.  A northern-limit graze will be 
visible from Colorado to northern Minnesota, over northern Iceland, 
central Norway & Sweden, southern Finland, and Russia, near both St. 
Petersburg and Moscow.


    About an hour after the disapearance of delta 3 Tauri, 6.9-mag.
ZC 663 will disappear for many of the same locations, and 6.5-mag. 
SZ Tauri will disappear about five hours after ZC 663.
_____________________________________________________________________ 


2. 3.0-mag. zeta Tauri will be occulted by the 96% sunlit waxing
    Moon on Sunday night, January 7-8, for most of North America.


    Predictions for several cities are given on p. 118 of this 
month's issue of Sky and Telescope.  The occultation will be visible 
throughout the "lower 48" U.S.A. and southern Canada, and much of 
Mexico, late Sunday evening for most observers.  Predictions for 
hundreds of cities will be posted on the IOTA Web site.  With the 
nearly full Moon, the bright-side reappearance will probably be 
impossible to record or time accurately; maybe a blue filter would 
help? 
_____________________________________________________________________ 


3. 3.5-mag. delta Geminorum will be occulted by the totally-eclipsed
    Moon from the Orient, and most of Asia; it will also be occulted
    in Europe, but in the bright penumbra before totality.


    The occultation will be best seen from Japan, Taiwan, Korea, 
much of China, and s.e. Siberia.  The southern limit passes about 
100 km north of Hong Kong.  The event is mentioned in the coverage 
of the lunar eclipse on p. 126 of the January issue of Sky and 
Telescope.  More information will be placed on IOTA's Web site, 
probably by 3h U.T. Jan. 5 U.T.
_____________________________________________________________________


4. Did anyone time any occultations this year before 1h 36m 08.8s UT
    of January 1?  If not, then I claim to have timed the first
    occultation of the new millenium (UT).  Frank Anet recorded the 
    first graze of the new millenium about 20 minutes later.


    Joan, William, and I videorecorded the disappearance of ZC 3458 
at the above time from 100 yards northeast of the intersection of 
Dillon Rd. and Thousand Palms Rd., northeast of Thousand Palms and 
east of Palm Springs, California.  We went there to try to escape 
thickening cirrus clouds that were moving into the Los Angeles area, 
with thick bands already over the Mojave Desert to the north and San 
Diego to the south.  The observation was through very thin cirrus; 
the dark limb of the Moon was visible with the PC23C camera attached 
to the C-8 loaned to us by David Werner.  If anyone in the L.A. area 
timed the occultation in breaks or thinnings of the clouds that 
probably occurred there, they would have beaten us by a few minutes. 
I wanted to go to Noah, Arizona, about 35 miles east of Yuma, to 
observe the graze, but that proved impractical since we had to catch 
our flight back to Maryland early the next morning.


    Frank and Ragini Anet timed ten events during the southern-limit 
graze at Noah, a great way to start the new millenium!  Also 
observing at his site was Brian Vorndam and one other observer from 
Yuma.  They only had one working recorder so they couldn't set up 
more than one station.  Hopefully, a few more timings of the graze 
were made from northwest of Phoenix.


    Even earlier, around 1h U.T. Jan. 1 U.T., there was an occultation
by the asteroid 179 Klaetemnestra in central North America, but I have
heard of no observations of that event.
_____________________________________________________________________


David Dunham, 2001 January 4 am



Joan and David Dunham
7006 Megan Lane
Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-4722
dunham@... 

--- In ASKC@egroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I found a pack of photos from the air conditioner installation. The 
photo of Nick was too compelling not to share. I put it in the ASKC 
egroup file area if you want to take a look.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is Nick prepared or what?

Carroll Iorg

As we discussed at the last Board Meeting, the Imax theater wants to
do something jointly with the ASKC, in conjunction with the currently
showing Imax film "Solar Max". It was pretty much decided to set up
solar observing, probably on Saturday, March 1.

I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.

They have to have a count of how many to expect from the ASKC.  I know
they gave us very short notice, but if you would like to attend this
free Imax film, please email me back asap, since I have to give 
the Imax people a count on Monday.

I hope to see a good turnout from the ASKC.

Carroll Iorg

>
>I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
>attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
>at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.
>
>They have to have a count of how many to expect from the ASKC.  I know
>they gave us very short notice, but if you would like to attend this
>free Imax film, please email me back asap, since I have to give
>the Imax people a count on Monday.

Carroll,

If families are invited too, put me down for 4 attendees.
If we have a choice of times, 7PM would be preferable.

Roger Gruenke

  I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
  attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
  at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m

  A very nice gesture on their part! I saw it in Chicago a few months ago and it's worth a look especially at this price. It doesn't spend much time on science or even discussing the 11/22 year cycle like I expected from the title. Still, it was time well spent to see it.


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Carroll:  Count me in for either the 6 or 7 pm.  Gloria won't be able to
make it,however.

Tom Martinez

-----Original Message-----
From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:ciorg@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:16 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Free Solar Max screening at Sprint Imax


As we discussed at the last Board Meeting, the Imax theater wants to
do something jointly with the ASKC, in conjunction with the currently
showing Imax film "Solar Max". It was pretty much decided to set up
solar observing, probably on Saturday, March 1.

I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.

They have to have a count of how many to expect from the ASKC.  I know
they gave us very short notice, but if you would like to attend this
free Imax film, please email me back asap, since I have to give
the Imax people a count on Monday.

I hope to see a good turnout from the ASKC.

Carroll Iorg


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The star party contact never called to verify but I'm headed down to Powell tonight (Sat) anyway. Looks a little moony but the giants will still be nice. I don't know how late I'll stay (long day) but come on down or call ahead if you want to catch some photons.


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In a message dated 1/5/01 11:19:34 PM Central Standard Time, ciorg@... 
writes:

> ciorg@... (Carroll Iorg)
carroll,  i would like to be put down for 5 to attend.
        thanks mark grantham

Carol, We will be there 7:00. Shelley, Kevin and 5 kids.

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From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 1:31 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Free Solar Max screening at Sprint Imax


  I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
  attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
  at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m

  A very nice gesture on their part! I saw it in Chicago a few months ago
and it's worth a look especially at this price. It doesn't spend much time
on science or even discussing the 11/22 year cycle like I expected from the
title. Still, it was time well spent to see it.


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Carroll -- count me in!!!  I want to be there, and will help on March 1st as
well.  PLEASE respond back to me or call me at WORK.  I will plan on
going, -- will just need to know the time!

thanks, Carroll!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:ciorg@...]
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:16 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Free Solar Max screening at Sprint Imax


As we discussed at the last Board Meeting, the Imax theater wants to
do something jointly with the ASKC, in conjunction with the currently
showing Imax film "Solar Max". It was pretty much decided to set up
solar observing, probably on Saturday, March 1.

I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.

They have to have a count of how many to expect from the ASKC.  I know
they gave us very short notice, but if you would like to attend this
free Imax film, please email me back asap, since I have to give
the Imax people a count on Monday.

I hope to see a good turnout from the ASKC.

Carroll Iorg


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Carroll,

Count me and my family IN for Monday at 6:00 p.m.  I can also help out 
on March 1.

-Dave Dembinski



--- In ASKC@egroups.com, "Carroll Iorg" <ciorg@s...> wrote:
> As we discussed at the last Board Meeting, the Imax theater wants to
> do something jointly with the ASKC, in conjunction with the 
currently
> showing Imax film "Solar Max". It was pretty much decided to set up
> solar observing, probably on Saturday, March 1.
> 
> I received a call from the Imax people today inviting ASKCers to
> attend a free screening of the Solar Max Imax show on Monday, 1/8
> at either 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m.
> 
> They have to have a count of how many to expect from the ASKC.  I 
know
> they gave us very short notice, but if you would like to attend this
> free Imax film, please email me back asap, since I have to give 
> the Imax people a count on Monday.
> 
> I hope to see a good turnout from the ASKC.
> 
> Carroll Iorg

Great show :-)
Thanks to the Zoo for inviting us, and thanks to Carrol Iorg for getting the
word out at short notice!
Kathy

Gil,

Thanks for the help with my scout troop's computer.  We are having an
all you can eat chili dinner on the 20th to raise money for an equipment
trailer.  I have two complementary tickets for you.

Thanks,

Joe

How many of you attended the 2000 Great Plains Star Party?

Visit www.icstars.com to see Vic and Jen's photo slide show of the 
event.

Excellent!  Nice work guys!

amen.  The movie was great and thanks for putting it to gether so quickly

Nick, Gina, and I were at the Louis-Young Park Board Meeting Monday 
night.

There is not too much happening in the park lately....  The following 
items were discussed:

1.  The soccer club will be setting up temporary practice fields in 
various places around the park.  They might use the area east of the 
observatory as a practice area like they did 2 years ago.

2.  They are still wanting lights for more of the softball fields, but 
it's unlikely it will happen soon.  The estimated cost will be around 
$17,000 for the 6-7 poles and the extra lights.  Right now the Park 
Board is short on money.  The poles alone run $1300 each!

    The postponed lighting meeting that was planned for November is 
still up in the air.  They are having problems contacting and 
arranging a meeting with a representative from KCPL.  City 
Administrator Ted Hayden says he will be sure to notify us when it 
will occur.

3.  Still no word on the BMX track.  As it stands now, the park board 
has OK'd the track and proposed it to the City Council.  The City 
Council has asked for a business plan from the BMX people.  After a 
business plan has been reviewed by the council, a decision will be 
made.

    The City Council went to visit the Blue Springs track during a 
regular racing night.  They were met by a Blue Springs welcoming 
committee at the gates.  It's hard to say how true-to-life what they 
saw actually was, as Hayden warned the council.

4.  The farmed acreage northeast of the observatory may not be put 
into crops this year.  Planning will start on laying out new softball 
and soccer fields for this area.  After a plan is laid out, then money 
has to be found for the work to be done.  The land will be terraced 
for flat fields,each one a little lower than the last, towards Jingo 
Road.

    After the terracing and grass has been planted, it still would be 
a year before anything is played there, so that the grass can take 
hold.

That's about it...

-Scott

Thanks for a great report Scott.  This will go in the ASKC history books.

Tom Martinez, ASKC historian

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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:59 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Park Board Meeting

Another Double transit of satellites and then satellite shadows acorss 
Jupiter this Sunday night!   (Great Red Spot is there also!)


Times are Central Standard Time.

Ganymede transit across Jupiter starts:        14 Jan 2001 20:19
Great Red Spot transit                         14 Jan 2001 21:44
Io transit across Jupiter starts:              14 Jan 2001 22:04
Ganymede transit ends:                         14 Jan 2001 22:25
Io's shadow transit starts:                    14 Jan 2001 23:08
Io transit ends:                               15 Jan 2001  0:14
Ganymede's shadow transit starts:              15 Jan 2001  0:35
Io's shadow transit ends:                      15 Jan 2001  1:19
Ganymede's shadow transit ends:                15 Jan 2001  2:46

--- In ASKC@egroups.com, "Scott Kranz" <skranz@w...> wrote:
> Another Double transit of satellites and then satellite shadows 
acorss 
> Jupiter this Sunday night!   (Great Red Spot is there also!)
> 
> 
> Times are Central Standard Time.
> 
> Ganymede transit across Jupiter starts:        14 Jan 2001 20:19
> Great Red Spot transit                         14 Jan 2001 21:44
> Io transit across Jupiter starts:              14 Jan 2001 22:04
> Ganymede transit ends:                         14 Jan 2001 22:25
> Io's shadow transit starts:                    14 Jan 2001 23:08
> Io transit ends:                               15 Jan 2001  0:14
> Ganymede's shadow transit starts:              15 Jan 2001  0:35
> Io's shadow transit ends:                      15 Jan 2001  1:19
>Scott:     Will get out the 8" Dobe and check out the transits of 
Jupiter. Thanks for the info..........  later     Bill Ganymede's 
shadow transit ends:                15 Jan 2001  2:46

Late Notice Folks,

A request was made at the Board Meeting to do a BSA star party Friday
night.

I volunteered to take care of it.

If anyone wants to come and help, glad to have you.

I plan to have a couple of may own older scouts from my troop to come
and help.

Thanks,

Joe

Should be around 11th-12th mag, I think
--------------------------------------------------------------------

     The Stardust spacecraft is returning to the Earth for a swingby
about two years after its launch, similar to NEAR's Earth swingby
of 1998 Jan. 23.  The best time to watch will be when the spacecraft
is at least 20 deg. above the horizon closest to the time of its
closest approach at about 11:15 U.T. January 15 U.T., and before
that closest approach, since it will be approaching the Earth with 
a small phase angle (like NEAR) but departing with a much less
favorable approx. 90 deg. phase angle.  For the Americas, the best
time will be around midnight Sunday night, Jan. 14-15.  The best
areas for observation will probably be the Orient, and Australasia,
the western Pacific region.  You can calculate an ephemeris for
your location using JPL's ephemeris generator at

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.html

Modify the "current settings" to select Stardust (in the "major body"
box) and select your city, or one near you, from their very extensive
city database (Greenbelt, MD, is in it).  Then set the time interval
you want, and check the quantities you want in the ephemeris.

William Blume gives some predictions of the observability below,
but based on the NEAR flyby experience, I think it will be a little
better, with Stardust probably being 11th mag. or brighter at the
best times in North America.  The spacecraft attitude is being 
controlled only in a "10 deg. deadband", so there will be no solar
panel sunglint pointings like we did with NEAR.  But you may be
lucky and see a brief direct reflection of sunlight from the solar
panels, which I think could be as bright as 4th to 6th mag.

David Dunham, IOTA
____________________________________________________________________
==================================================================

Hey all,

Anyone going to Powell to do imaging tonight.

I'm interested.

This is dangerous, but here's my pager number.  You can email to my
pager at Airtouch.com and select sent text message.

913-928-9730

Thanks,

Joe

A while back David Young asked about programs that put a moon phase icon in
the task bar tray.
I just found another free one at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/

This is John Walkers site. He has several fun freeware screensavers and
other programs. Worth a look His Home Planet freeware program is good, as
are several screensavers.
He also has a good article/pictures on lunar apogee and perigee. And lots of
other stuff.

Speaking of moon phase stuff-- remember Larry Robinsons excellent program on
the moon? He had a short movie sequence showing the terminator going across
the lunar surface, with the craters nicely sharpening along the terminator,
and then getting less distinct. Anybody know if that is available somewhere
on the net?

That might be useful for a lot of people putting on programs about the moon.
Kathy

Kathy,

I dont know if its the same one as Larry had, but i have ashort sequence movie
of the phases just like the one he had.  I get it to you and you can see if its
the one you like...

-Scott

Kathy Machin wrote:

> A while back David Young asked about programs that put a moon phase icon in
> the task bar tray.
> I just found another free one at
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/
>
> This is John Walkers site. He has several fun freeware screensavers and
> other programs. Worth a look His Home Planet freeware program is good, as
> are several screensavers.
> He also has a good article/pictures on lunar apogee and perigee. And lots of
> other stuff.
>
> Speaking of moon phase stuff-- remember Larry Robinsons excellent program on
> the moon? He had a short movie sequence showing the terminator going across
> the lunar surface, with the craters nicely sharpening along the terminator,
> and then getting less distinct. Anybody know if that is available somewhere
> on the net?
>
> That might be useful for a lot of people putting on programs about the moon.
> Kathy
>
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Hello Tom,

A couple of programs have firmed up in the past few days. They are as indicated below.

January    Melissa Kirk   ASKC member     Mt. Wilson Telescopes
February  ????
March    Jane Jackson (Little Rock, AR)    Star parties
April        Dr. Keith Ashman         Search for Extra Terestrial Planets
May        ????


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I have a program commitment for tomorrow night, January 23 at East Antioch Elementary school (K-6). Location is between Metcalf and Antioch on 75th street.

I also have a miserable cold and sore throat and would like someone else to do it. They need a short presentation of some sort. Perhaps a planetarium program using a laptop running skyglobe or the sky. I have a suitable  laptop to loan if someone is willing to do the program. If interested please give me a call at 913-631-8413.


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OOPS. I had my schools mixed up. The program Tuesday evening from 5:30 to 7:30 is a STAR LAB. Someone else is supposed to run the thing and the ASKC person just needs to help identify constellations, etc. They put 20 or so kids and parents into the thing for 15 minutes per group so there isn't much time to get too detailed. 

Once again, please let me know if you can do this one for me.


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I just got yet another copy of the HaHa email Trojan. I killed Snow White and all her little buddies but I thought I should let you all know that the little bugger is still floating around out there.


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David Young wrote:
> 
> OOPS. I had my schools mixed up. The program Tuesday evening from 5:30 to 7:30 is a STAR LAB. Someone else is supposed to run the thing and the ASKC person just needs to help identify constellations, etc. They put 20 or so kids and parents into the thing for 15 minutes per group so there isn't much time to get too detailed.
> 
> Once again, please let me know if you can do this one for me.
> 
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Dave,

I don't know a thing about the starlab program.  Where and what is it? 
Is any equipment required to be taken along?  Do we collect a donation
for doing this?  How long does the evening last?

Joe

David Young wrote:
> 
> I just got yet another copy of the HaHa email Trojan. I killed Snow White and all her little buddies but I thought I should let you all know that the little bugger is still floating around out there.
> 
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> 
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Dave,

I got it a couple of times in the last month.  Didn't  give it a second
thought and deleted it.

Thanks David.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:42 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Programs

Sorry I didn't get your message until about 8:30 Sunday night. Maybe this upcoming weekend we can do some imaging in the AIC.

Melissa Kirk
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph S. Wright 
  To: ASKC 
  Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:21 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] (no subject)


  Hey all,

  Anyone going to Powell to do imaging tonight.

  I'm interested.

  This is dangerous, but here's my pager number.  You can email to my
  pager at Airtouch.com and select sent text message.

  913-928-9730

  Thanks,

  Joe

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  I don't know a thing about the starlab program.  Where and what is it? 
  Is any equipment required to be taken along?  Do we collect a donation
  for doing this?  How long does the evening last?


  Star Lab is a portable, inflatable planetarium. They are setting up in East Antioch school at 7432 Lowell-between Metcalf and Antioch. It's for a family science night. They expect 300+ people attending. No equipment is necessary. It runs from 5:30 to 7:30. No cash value, just the satisfaction of helping them out.
  Topic is the night sky on Januay 23. The Star Lab has two control dials, one to turn it on and one to adjust the brightness of the side lights. You can turn the projection screen gizmo by hand to rotate the sky if desired.



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I can join you Melissa Saturday (after the general meeting) or Sunday night.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melissa Kirk [mailto:makirk37@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:31 PM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] (no subject)
> 
> 
> Sorry I didn't get your message until about 8:30 Sunday night. 
> Maybe this upcoming weekend we can do some imaging in the AIC.
> 
> Melissa Kirk
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Joseph S. Wright 
>   To: ASKC 
>   Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:21 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] (no subject)
> 
> 
>   Hey all,
> 
>   Anyone going to Powell to do imaging tonight.
> 
>   I'm interested.
> 
>   This is dangerous, but here's my pager number.  You can email to my
>   pager at Airtouch.com and select sent text message.
> 
>   913-928-9730
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Joe
> 
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> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
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> 

Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?

This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use. It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it at the GM.


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I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just west of I-29 on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our providing a number of telescopes for viewing only. We could use 10 scopes for this group. How about a few good people volunteering?


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Dave, I think this is great news.  DT

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:32 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] nasa grant


Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I
specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he
was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David
Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?

This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we
should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use.
It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution
and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg
and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it
at the GM.


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Put it on the ASKCasteroids calendar please so people know that someone wil be
down there.

DJ Kindberg wrote:

> I can join you Melissa Saturday (after the general meeting) or Sunday night.
>
> Darren J Kindberg
> Secretary
> Heartland Humanists
> http://heartland.humanists.net
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Melissa Kirk [mailto:makirk37@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:31 PM
> > To: ASKC@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] (no subject)
> >
> >
> > Sorry I didn't get your message until about 8:30 Sunday night.
> > Maybe this upcoming weekend we can do some imaging in the AIC.
> >
> > Melissa Kirk
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Joseph S. Wright
> >   To: ASKC
> >   Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:21 PM
> >   Subject: [ASKC] (no subject)
> >
> >
> >   Hey all,
> >
> >   Anyone going to Powell to do imaging tonight.
> >
> >   I'm interested.
> >
> >   This is dangerous, but here's my pager number.  You can email to my
> >   pager at Airtouch.com and select sent text message.
> >
> >   913-928-9730
> >
> >   Thanks,
> >
> >   Joe
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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  Put it on the ASKCasteroids calendar please so people know that someone wil be
  down there.


  Where exactly is the ASKCasteroids calendar? I looked for it a few days ago and couldn't find anything that had entries in it. 



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David, what night?
Dave

David Young wrote:

> I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just west of I-29 on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our providing a number of telescopes for viewing only. We could use 10 scopes for this group. How about a few good people volunteering?
>
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>
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David, Kathy, and gang,

Wow! What a turn of events! I assumed the grant issue was long dead. This is a big opportunity and commitment for the club; may I suggest a special Board Meeting with all interested parties attending? Perhaps at 6PM before the GM, or for more discussion time - maybe some night next week?

Kathy what do you think about scheduling a special Board meeting like this?

David tells me that we need to respond "fairly quickly". In "government time", this sounds like maybe within the next 2-3 weeks.

Obviously the team of Mellisa Kirk, Joe Alburty, and David Young did a bang-up professional job with the grant proposal!  Awsome!

Dave Hudgins


David Young wrote:

> Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?
>
> This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use. It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it at the GM.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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When?

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:01 AM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] program?
> 
> 
> I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just 
> west of I-29 on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our 
> providing a number of telescopes for viewing only. We could use 
> 10 scopes for this group. How about a few good people volunteering?
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> ASKC-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
> 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Hudgins 
  To: ASKC@egroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] program?


  David, what night?
  Dave


  Friday, March 9at 7:00 PM



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  When?



  Details, details, details.  ;-)    Friday, March 9 at 7:00 PM



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David,

Did someone volunteer for tonight.  I just got back and cancelled
another engagement and am heading out for the school.  I'm not very
familiar with this area, but I will find it.
Help would be welcomed.

Joe

I'll be happy to help out.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:29 PM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] program?
> 
> 
> 
>   When?
> 
> 
> 
>   Details, details, details.  ;-)    Friday, March 9 at 7:00 PM
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
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> 
> 

Wow! is right :-)))
We need input from Scott and the AIC teams on this. Also original grant
writers--who can we get to volunteer? What does responsibilities does PI
really require?
It has been months since we talked about this so my memory needs refreshed
on the PI thing.
Pleas Fill me in on the PI
kathy

Subject: Re: [ASKC] nasa grant


> David, Kathy, and gang,
>
> Wow! What a turn of events! I assumed the grant issue was long dead. This
is a big opportunity and commitment for the club; may I suggest a special
Board Meeting with all interested parties attending? Perhaps at 6PM before
the GM, or for more discussion time - maybe some night next week?
>
> Kathy what do you think about scheduling a special Board meeting like
this?
>
> David tells me that we need to respond "fairly quickly". In "government
time", this sounds like maybe within the next 2-3 weeks.
>
> Obviously the team of Mellisa Kirk, Joe Alburty, and David Young did a
bang-up professional job with the grant proposal!  Awsome!
>
> Dave Hudgins
>
>
> David Young wrote:
>
> > Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I
specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he
was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David
Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?
> >
> > This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think
we should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good
use. It would give us a better support base in our fight against light
pollution and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for
Louisburg and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk
about it at the GM.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > ASKC-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>

  I'll be happy to help out.


  Thanks D J. I have entered you into my little black book for March 9.



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Joe Wright joined me tonight for a couple hours in a Star Lab at a school science night. The school will be sending a donation to ASKC for our efforts. These Star Lab gizmos are a hoot. If you ever get a chance to go in one or help someone you won't be sorry. They are a smap to set up and operate.

Thanks to Joe for helping out!


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David Young wrote:
> 
> Joe Wright joined me tonight for a couple hours in a Star Lab at a school science night. The school will be sending a donation to ASKC for our efforts. These Star Lab gizmos are a hoot. If you ever get a chance to go in one or help someone you won't be sorry. They are a smap to set up and operate.
> 
> Thanks to Joe for helping out!
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Dave,

My pleasure.

Joe

Thats the point.... no one is using it when they should be for AIC use.

David Young wrote:

>   Put it on the ASKCasteroids calendar please so people know that someone wil be
>   down there.
>
>   Where exactly is the ASKCasteroids calendar? I looked for it a few days ago and couldn't find anything that had entries in it.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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This will make me unpopular, probably, but I can't help voicing my concerns.
I was one of the people who helped with and supported the grant idea, but at
the time the usage of the AIC equipment was much more intense.   I'd like to
think the lowered interest in the program is due to bad weather, but I am
not sure that's the case.  Yes, for a while I do believe the interest would
be rekindled by the grant and its new CCD camera, but for how long can we
make that commitment?  Without a firm commitment to produce the results
promised to NASA I feel uncomfortable accepting the funds at this time.

So the question is:  who will make this commitment?  If we make it, we will
accept a responsibility we cannot just give up when we no longer feel like
doing it.
Also, is the 30" functionally ready to work with the AP8 for asteroid
research?

I'm not saying we should summarily reject it, but I am not as sure as I was
a few months ago that we are ready for this responsibility .  If we fail in
our commitment it will hurt us and science, so let's think about it well.

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:32 AM
  To: ASKC@egroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] nasa grant


  Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I
specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he
was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David
Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?

  This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we
should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use.
It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution
and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg
and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it
at the GM.


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We need to decide if we really want to accept this grant money.  Right 
now we have a ST9e that sits in the drawer most clear evenings.

If this grant money is accepted and we get the camera.  People would 
be on a scheduling list to be required to show up and image.  Do we 
want to do this?

It may be nice for the first few months, but what then?

Just think it over before rushing to accept this money.....

-Scott



--- In ASKC@egroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
> Wow! is right :-)))
> We need input from Scott and the AIC teams on this. Also original 
grant
> writers--who can we get to volunteer? What does responsibilities 
does PI
> really require?
> It has been months since we talked about this so my memory needs 
refreshed
> on the PI thing.
> Pleas Fill me in on the PI
> kathy
> 
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] nasa grant
> 
> 
> > David, Kathy, and gang,
> >
> > Wow! What a turn of events! I assumed the grant issue was long 
dead. This
> is a big opportunity and commitment for the club; may I suggest a 
special
> Board Meeting with all interested parties attending? Perhaps at 6PM 
before
> the GM, or for more discussion time - maybe some night next week?
> >
> > Kathy what do you think about scheduling a special Board meeting 
like
> this?
> >
> > David tells me that we need to respond "fairly quickly". In 
"government
> time", this sounds like maybe within the next 2-3 weeks.
> >
> > Obviously the team of Mellisa Kirk, Joe Alburty, and David Young 
did a
> bang-up professional job with the grant proposal!  Awsome!
> >
> > Dave Hudgins
> >
> >
> > David Young wrote:
> >
> > > Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on 
for weeks
> last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the 
grant. I
> specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
> Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant 
since he
> was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must 
be a
> member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for 
a new
> AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal 
Investigator. David
> Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily 
in that
> order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?
> > >
> > > This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. 
I think
> we should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to 
good
> use. It would give us a better support base in our fight against 
light
> pollution and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational 
asset for
> Louisburg and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We 
can talk
> about it at the GM.
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http://www.egroups.com/calendar/ASKCasteroids?s=2&t=980315319
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  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:35 PM
  To: ASKC@egroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] (no subject)



    Where exactly is the ASKCasteroids calendar? I looked for it a few days
ago and couldn't find anything that had entries in it.



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Hi everyone,
Amy's mother passed away this week and she will not be at the meeting. I
will have drinks and stuff but would like some help with food. If anyone who
could bring something to help out it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
Shelley

David when?

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:01 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] program?


I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just west of I-29
on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our providing a number of
telescopes for viewing only. We could use 10 scopes for this group. How
about a few good people volunteering?


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Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:32 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] nasa grant


Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I
specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he
was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David
Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?

This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we
should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use.
It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution
and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg
and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it
at the GM.


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  Amy's mother passed away this week and she will not be at the meeting. I
  will have drinks and stuff but would like some help with food. If anyone who
  could bring something to help out it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
  Shelley



  Will do Shelly. 


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At 05:19 AM 1/24/01 +0000, Scott Kranz wrote:
>We need to decide if we really want to accept this grant money.  Right
>now we have a ST9e that sits in the drawer most clear evenings.
>
>If this grant money is accepted and we get the camera.  People would
>be on a scheduling list to be required to show up and image.  Do we
>want to do this?
>
>It may be nice for the first few months, but what then?
>
>Just think it over before rushing to accept this money.....
>
>-Scott

Hi all,

In light of what Scott wrote, I have included a couple of excerpts from
the copy of the grant proposal.

I'd summarize it this way:

      ASKC told NASA we would use the money to buy a back-illuminated
      chip CCD camera (AP8) and put it on the 30" scope to do follow-up
      of NEOs.  We implied that we'd be using it most clear nights.

  NEOs move too fast to be captured with our existing AIC equipment.  We
can't use the 12" Meade by extending the exposure time, because they
won't stay on the same pixel long enough to be detectable.

Hope this information helps in the decision process.

Roger

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here are the excerpts from the grant proposal summary:

"This proposal seeks funding to purchase an Apogee Instruments AP8 CCD
camera to enable an expanded program of Near Earth Object (NEO)
follow-up observations for positional measurement and orbit
determination. This equipment would substantially improve an existing
co-operative program of amateur/professional asteroid research at
Powell Observatory in Louisburg, Kansas..."

"Current equipment includes a 30cm Meade LX200 computer-controlled
Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and a small CCD camera. Powell also has
a 75cm computer-controlled Newtonian telescope that could be used for
fainter NEO asteroid work. This proposal seeks to acquire a wide
pixel-array CCD camera with increased sensitivity to be used on the
75cm telescope.  The addition of this equipment would increase
capability to perform NEO follow-ups for professional sky surveys.
These programs post newly discovered NEOs to the internet in hopes
that amateur observatories will make further observations to refine
the orbits before they are lost.  The rate at which these objects
move puts them out of reach of most amateur equipment.

"This proposal is to fund the addition of a larger, more sensitive CCD
camera to the asteroid search program at Powell. This piece of
equipment would enable us to observe and report NEOs to the MPC down
to magnitude 20. With this capability, Powell Observatory would
undertake the important job of assisting federally funded
institutions currently tasked to inventory all Near Earth Objects..."

I will certainly help and would like to be on the schedule as much as I can
with any of these or whoever the group puts in charge of it.  Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:53 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant


Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:32 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] nasa grant


Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC the grant. I
specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the grant since he
was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal Investigator. David
Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?

This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we
should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to good use.
It would give us a better support base in our fight against light pollution
and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg
and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can talk about it
at the GM.


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As would I. I am usually available most evenings until 11:15 and later
Saturdays and Sundays. This kind of stuff beats the crap out of sitting in
front of the tube.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dtrent [mailto:dtrent@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:23 PM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
>
>
> I will certainly help and would like to be on the schedule as
> much as I can
> with any of these or whoever the group puts in charge of it.  Dick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:53 AM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
>
>
> Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
> AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] nasa grant
>
>
> Remember that NASA grant proposal Melissa, Joe and I worked on for weeks
> last year? NASA just called and they are prepared to award ASKC
> the grant. I
> specifically asked if Larry Robinson, who was named as the Principal
> Investigator in our grant proposal, could participate in the
> grant since he
> was no longer affiliated with the ASKC. They said NO!  The PI must be a
> member of the ASKC. All we need to do if we want the $13,900.00 for a new
> AP8 camera and software is come up with a new Principal
> Investigator. David
> Hudgins, Nick Reus, Scott Kranz, Richard Fredrick, not necessarily in that
> order, come to mind. Any other suggestions? Anyone else interested?
>
> This could revitalize the asteroid program that Larry inspired. I think we
> should make a serious  attempt to obtain this grant and put it to
> good use.
> It would give us a better support base in our fight against light
> pollution
> and increase Powell's image as a valuable educational asset for Louisburg
> and the Kansas City area. I would appreciate feedback. We can
> talk about it
> at the GM.
>
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There are some concerns about performance that should definitely be addressed before we go any further down the grant path.

Do we have sufficient interest in imaging to do an acceptable job and what guarantee do we have that the interest would be sustainable.

Perhaps we should poll the membership for interest and seek a written commitment of a certain number of participants. That written commitment would be for a certain number of nights of observing per month for a one year period. I know that if I went to the effort of making a promise along those lines I would make and extra effort to perfom. Often I've been tetering on the brink of going down and then decide to spend free time somewhere else. If we had a schedule and I knew I would have a partner I would be able to plan for it. I would be willing to commit to a minimum number of nights if such a program were adopted. Other ideas welcome of course. Gina and Scott have valid concerns and if we can't properly address them perhaps we should pass on the grant. It will be a group decision but I have a lot of time in just helping Melissa and Joe writte the grant proposal. I hate to see us throw away an opportunity like this.


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Shelley, I'll definitely bring something.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:49 AM
  To: ASKC
  Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting Help


  Hi everyone,
  Amy's mother passed away this week and she will not be at the meeting. I
  will have drinks and stuff but would like some help with food. If anyone
who
  could bring something to help out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
  Shelley


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I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as "glamorous" as the
title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the time to
properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be the P.I. in
this deal??
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
  To: ASKC@egroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant


  Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
  AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley




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Shelley,

Linda and I will bring some cookies if that will help.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:49 AM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting Help


Hi everyone,
Amy's mother passed away this week and she will not be at the meeting. I
will have drinks and stuff but would like some help with food. If anyone who
could bring something to help out it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks,
Shelley


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Well, I supposed I should have mentioned that this was for Scott and that it
was meant tongue-in-cheek, since I've been harrassing him about not doing a
proper job as AIC coordinator ;-)
After I sent it out I realized that it didn't come out right at all and that
I might be misunderstood, especially "the trap" part.   A smiley next to it
would have helped.
Am I still in time to put it now? :-)

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:20 PM
  To: ASKC@egroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant


  I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as "glamorous" as
the
  title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the time to
  properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be the P.I. in
  this deal??
    -----Original Message-----
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    Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
    To: ASKC@egroups.com
    Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant


    Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of
the
    AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley




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Many of you will remember Lee Price of Knollwood books. Lee and Peggy were
one of the few who sold books at astronomy conventions. They were at the
National Convention in Kansas City, and always were at Astrofest as well as
several TSP's and winter star parties.
I just received word that Lee died a week ago today.
He will be missed by his friends in theAstronomy community.
Kathy Machin

We should send Amy some flowers from all of us, if it hasn't been done yet.

Gina
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:49 AM
  To: ASKC
  Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting Help


  Hi everyone,
  Amy's mother passed away this week and she will not be at the meeting. I
  will have drinks and stuff but would like some help with food. If anyone
who
  could bring something to help out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Definitely.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:37 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Amy's mother


We should send Amy some flowers from all of us, if it hasn't been done yet.

Gina
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:49 AM
  To: ASKC
  Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting Help


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I'm sorry to hear about Lee. They were a nice couple.

Gary

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:01 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] death of a friend


Many of you will remember Lee Price of Knollwood books. Lee and Peggy were
one of the few who sold books at astronomy conventions. They were at the
National Convention in Kansas City, and always were at Astrofest as well as
several TSP's and winter star parties.
I just received word that Lee died a week ago today.
He will be missed by his friends in theAstronomy community.
Kathy Machin


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Thanks Gina.

hehehe yes, I know what you think of my coordinator skills :-)

So little to do and so much time!     No wait; scratch that and reverse it.

Everything will have to be determined by the Board I guess, or at least by
popular demand.  And no, the job of PI will not be easy.

But yes, I am going to try and work harder on the AIC job and get more
activities going out there besides just asteroid work......  Sorry, I'm just not
the cheerleader that Larry was   :-)    (that was a compliment, Larry, just in
case you wondered)

Later!




Gina Fedon wrote:

> I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as "glamorous" as the
> title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the time to
> properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be the P.I. in
> this deal??
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
>   To: ASKC@egroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
>
>   Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
>   AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley
>
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Hey Scott,  I think you are a great cheerleader!!  : ^ )

Say, maybe if you are thinking up ways we can increase use of the AIC, what about
scheduling and advertising a member imaging night every 4 to 6 weeks over the warm
months. Maybe call it Saturday Picture Night or something so people remember when it
is. I'd be happy to help with such a  program to get more club members involved!

Dave

Scott Kranz wrote:

> Thanks Gina.
>
> hehehe yes, I know what you think of my coordinator skills :-)
>
> So little to do and so much time!     No wait; scratch that and reverse it.
>
> Everything will have to be determined by the Board I guess, or at least by
> popular demand.  And no, the job of PI will not be easy.
>
> But yes, I am going to try and work harder on the AIC job and get more
> activities going out there besides just asteroid work......  Sorry, I'm just not
> the cheerleader that Larry was   :-)    (that was a compliment, Larry, just in
> case you wondered)
>
> Later!
>
> Gina Fedon wrote:
>
> > I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as "glamorous" as the
> > title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the time to
> > properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be the P.I. in
> > this deal??
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
> >   To: ASKC@egroups.com
> >   Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
> >
> >   Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
> >   AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley
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Yes, I remember the Prices, who have been at several Conventions I've attended
over the years.  Sorry to hear the news.

Carroll Iorg

On 25 Jan 2001 10:51:12 -0000, you wrote:

>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:00:59 -0600
>   From: "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...>
>Subject: death of a friend
>
>Many of you will remember Lee Price of Knollwood books. Lee and Peggy were
>one of the few who sold books at astronomy conventions. They were at the
>National Convention in Kansas City, and always were at Astrofest as well as
>several TSP's and winter star parties.
>I just received word that Lee died a week ago today.
>He will be missed by his friends in theAstronomy community.
>Kathy Machin

  Am I still in time to put it now? :-)


  Well, what am I supposed to do with this new rope now?      ;-)



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Thanks David.  I don't think so, but I keep trying.

I will continue working hard at AIC Coordinator, but I cannot even 
think about being PI for the grant.  At one time I thought maybe so, 
but recently there is just too much keeping me busy with the AIC.  I 
will not have the time to put into the PI efforts.

My main goal right now is to revitalize the asteroid program which we 
will still have whether or not we accept the grant.  This will keep me 
plenty busy!


--- In ASKC@egroups.com, David Hudgins <dhudgins@s...> wrote:
> Hey Scott,  I think you are a great cheerleader!!  : ^ )
> 
> Say, maybe if you are thinking up ways we can increase use of the 
AIC, what about
> scheduling and advertising a member imaging night every 4 to 6 weeks 
over the warm
> months. Maybe call it Saturday Picture Night or something so people 
remember when it
> is. I'd be happy to help with such a  program to get more club 
members involved!
> 
> Dave
> 
> Scott Kranz wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Gina.
> >
> > hehehe yes, I know what you think of my coordinator skills :-)
> >
> > So little to do and so much time!     No wait; scratch that and 
reverse it.
> >
> > Everything will have to be determined by the Board I guess, or at 
least by
> > popular demand.  And no, the job of PI will not be easy.
> >
> > But yes, I am going to try and work harder on the AIC job and get 
more
> > activities going out there besides just asteroid work......  
Sorry, I'm just not
> > the cheerleader that Larry was   :-)    (that was a compliment, 
Larry, just in
> > case you wondered)
> >
> > Later!
> >
> > Gina Fedon wrote:
> >
> > > I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as 
"glamorous" as the
> > > title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the 
time to
> > > properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be 
the P.I. in
> > > this deal??
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@q...]
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
> > >   To: ASKC@egroups.com
> > >   Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
> > >
> > >   Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in 
charge of the
> > >   AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley
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For those interested I have uploaded a copy of the grant proposal we sent to NASA last year. You will note the commitment of the PI was for an average of 5 hours per week This does not mean a PI will have to be at Powell 5 hours every week. A PI would just need to be able to put in 5 hours of there own or some designated assistant's time. These are personal interpretations and I am mentioning them as a possible solution. If we accepted the grant and did not perform a couple of things would happen. We would have a hard time getting another grant from NASA and perhaps anyone else. We might have to give the camera to NASA.

I am more than willing to help but am not qualified to be PI myself having no credentials. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to help someone with that paperwork monster that will probably be associated with dealing with the government. I've battled that monster many times on government contracts.

Let's keep talking about this.


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I sent this one by mistake to the asteroids list, so someone may get it twice... Sorry! :-}

Well, Scott, it was meant mostly as a joke, you know that, although I think neither you nor me have been motivators like Larry was.  And yes, I do think that your work with the League awards and AIC coordinator would make it hard to do a good job as P.I.   That I really did mean as a concern.

Let me bring this other point out to everyone:  if we can make that commitment, and maybe put it in writing as David Young suggested, finding a P.I. won't be as easy as it may seem.  The position does come with determined duties, expectations and deadlines.  Unlike any other position in the ASKC, where if something comes up you can either not show up, do it later, or have someone else substitute you, this is something that gets priority in someone's life.  At least that's how I see it.

Also, what are the penalties, if any, with NASA is we don't do what we committed to in the proposal?  
 
For the record, I really think that if we can make this commitment, it will be a great opportunity.  I just don't want to see us undertaking it lightly.

Gina
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@egroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 11:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] nasa grant


  Thanks Gina.

  hehehe yes, I know what you think of my coordinator skills :-)

  So little to do and so much time!     No wait; scratch that and reverse it.

  Everything will have to be determined by the Board I guess, or at least by
  popular demand.  And no, the job of PI will not be easy.

  But yes, I am going to try and work harder on the AIC job and get more
  activities going out there besides just asteroid work......  Sorry, I'm just not
  the cheerleader that Larry was   :-)    (that was a compliment, Larry, just in
  case you wondered)

  Later!




  Gina Fedon wrote:

  > I've already said this, so please don't be upset, but as "glamorous" as the
  > title of PI is, don't let them trap you.  You hardly have the time to
  > properly do the job of AIC coordinator, how would you also be the P.I. in
  > this deal??
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
  >   Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:53 AM
  >   To: ASKC@egroups.com
  >   Subject: RE: [ASKC] nasa grant
  >
  >   Wonderful. I think we should have Scott do it since he is in charge of the
  >   AIC now. Just my 2 cents , Shelley
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I agree with you Dave, and I will gladly commit to a schedule on observing.
There is always room for trading nights if the need comes up.  We do that
for the regular public night programs now.  I am usually open for that and
it is just the fact that there isn't a real schedule set up.

There is a real need for this program to be set up and it will benifit our
younger generations more than our own.  It may take a while before anyone
recognizes the foresightedness that it takes to do this.  I think it needs
to be done.  The real benifits will not be seen for a while as our work is a
part of a very big picture (that has to be developed) of the nearby sky that
will affect us.  You notice I say "will" affect us as it is only a matter of
"when."  We can contribute to this research in a very good way even if on a
small scale.

Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 6:06 PM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] nasa grant


There are some concerns about performance that should definitely be
addressed before we go any further down the grant path.

Do we have sufficient interest in imaging to do an acceptable job and what
guarantee do we have that the interest would be sustainable.

Perhaps we should poll the membership for interest and seek a written
commitment of a certain number of participants. That written commitment
would be for a certain number of nights of observing per month for a one
year period. I know that if I went to the effort of making a promise along
those lines I would make and extra effort to perfom. Often I've been
tetering on the brink of going down and then decide to spend free time
somewhere else. If we had a schedule and I knew I would have a partner I
would be able to plan for it. I would be willing to commit to a minimum
number of nights if such a program were adopted. Other ideas welcome of
course. Gina and Scott have valid concerns and if we can't properly address
them perhaps we should pass on the grant. It will be a group decision but I
have a lot of time in just helping Melissa and Joe writte the grant
proposal. I hate to see us throw away an opportunity like this.


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David, Oh... for we dummies, how do we get to this uploaded document?
On ASKC site?
(name withheld due to embarrasment)

David Young wrote:

> For those interested I have uploaded a copy of the grant proposal we sent to NASA last year. You will note the commitment of the PI was for an average of 5 hours per week This does not mean a PI will have to be at Powell 5 hours every week. A PI would just need to be able to put in 5 hours of there own or some designated assistant's time. These are personal interpretations and I am mentioning them as a possible solution. If we accepted the grant and did not perform a couple of things would happen. We would have a hard time getting another grant from NASA and perhaps anyone else. We might have to give the camera to NASA.
>
> I am more than willing to help but am not qualified to be PI myself having no credentials. That doesn't mean I wouldn't be able to help someone with that paperwork monster that will probably be associated with dealing with the government. I've battled that monster many times on government contracts.
>
> Let's keep talking about this.
>
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Anyone know what the program is for Saturday night's meeting? Just 
curious.

Jim

  how do we get to this uploaded document?
  On ASKC site?

  OOPS. I guess I should have mentioned it's in the ASKC egroups file area. Log onto the ASKC egroups page and go to the file area. At least I think I got it upload ok. 

  If anyone downloads it or if no one can find it, please let me know so I fiddle around and try it again.



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As a matter of fact I do know but I'm keeping it a secret!





Well ok. Mellisa Kirk is bailing me out by presenting a program on her trip to Mt. Wilson Observatory.


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When it comes to keeping a secret, you really folded under the pressure. 8^). Thanks for the info.

Jim
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To: ASKC@egroups.com <ASKC@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sturday Night Program


As a matter of fact I do know but I'm keeping it a secret!





Well ok. Mellisa Kirk is bailing me out by presenting a program on her trip to Mt. Wilson Observatory.


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Hmm... Weird!  No, you're still there...  Did you convert from egroups to
Yahoo Groups and picked a new User I.D. and pw for yourself?  It's an
annoying process, but once it's done it works just fine.  Also, if your
account weren't active, you wouldn't be able to send/receive ASKC mail.
Let's see what I did to convert my account:

Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/
Click on  "eGroups users Link your accounts here" (Left menu, at the top)
Enter your email address and usual e-groups password
From there it should take you to a form or screen where you can access a
form to set up a Yahoo User ID and password.  The pw can be the same as the
e-groups, but it DOES make you choose a User ID and it asks you a lot of
personal questions.  Bear with it, lie if you don't want to disclose
personal data, whatever it takes  :-)

After that you should be able to just go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups, without having to go through all that
yahoo stuff.  Let me know how it works.



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From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:15 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


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Gina,

Is this a process that needs to be done? Is this conversion going to be
eventually necessary to access egroups?

Gary

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From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:05 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


Hmm... Weird!  No, you're still there...  Did you convert from egroups to
Yahoo Groups and picked a new User I.D. and pw for yourself?  It's an
annoying process, but once it's done it works just fine.  Also, if your
account weren't active, you wouldn't be able to send/receive ASKC mail.
Let's see what I did to convert my account:

Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/
Click on  "eGroups users Link your accounts here" (Left menu, at the top)
Enter your email address and usual e-groups password
From there it should take you to a form or screen where you can access a
form to set up a Yahoo User ID and password.  The pw can be the same as the
e-groups, but it DOES make you choose a User ID and it asks you a lot of
personal questions.  Bear with it, lie if you don't want to disclose
personal data, whatever it takes  :-)

After that you should be able to just go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups, without having to go through all that
yahoo stuff.  Let me know how it works.



 -----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:15 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


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Thank you Gina. I followed your directions and linked the egroups to Yahoo.  



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Never mind any reply Gina. I answered my own question. From what I've found
it looks like you can still receive the mail by doing nothing but you need
to make the conversion to actually interface with egroups.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:39 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


Gina,

Is this a process that needs to be done? Is this conversion going to be
eventually necessary to access egroups?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:05 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


Hmm... Weird!  No, you're still there...  Did you convert from egroups to
Yahoo Groups and picked a new User I.D. and pw for yourself?  It's an
annoying process, but once it's done it works just fine.  Also, if your
account weren't active, you wouldn't be able to send/receive ASKC mail.
Let's see what I did to convert my account:

Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/
Click on  "eGroups users Link your accounts here" (Left menu, at the top)
Enter your email address and usual e-groups password
From there it should take you to a form or screen where you can access a
form to set up a Yahoo User ID and password.  The pw can be the same as the
e-groups, but it DOES make you choose a User ID and it asks you a lot of
personal questions.  Bear with it, lie if you don't want to disclose
personal data, whatever it takes  :-)

After that you should be able to just go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups, without having to go through all that
yahoo stuff.  Let me know how it works.



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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:15 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re:yo....Gina


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Is this the one you mentioned at the meeting last night?  When is it?  J.

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From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:01 AM
To: ASKC@egroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] program?


I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just west of I-29
on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our providing a number of
telescopes for viewing only. We could use 10 scopes for this group. How
about a few good people volunteering?


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Yes - When is it? I have done these in the past years.
This is at the scout camp just off Waldron Road?

--- In ASKC@y..., "Jackie Beucher" <m31@s...> wrote:
> Is this the one you mentioned at the meeting last night?  When is 
it?  J.
> 
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> To: ASKC@egroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] program?
> 
> 
> I just booked an off site money raiser ($400) for a school just west 
of I-29
> on 45 highway. The $$$ are contingent on our providing a number of
> telescopes for viewing only. We could use 10 scopes for this group. 
How
> about a few good people volunteering?
> 
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Hi Y'all:

I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
Amazon.com.

Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?

Thanks!

-Dave Dembinski

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> 
> Hi Y'all:
> 
> I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
> Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
> edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
> County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
> Amazon.com.
> 
> Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Dave Dembinski
> 
> 
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Dave,

I don't know about the book, but there is a whole bunch of them on the
web.  Many gives good details and drawings that you may use for your
design.  I printed about 100 of the off the internet.  They consist of
domes and shed roofs of varying designs.  One particular website list
over hundred of them.

Good luck.

Joe

Sorry Dave, I don't have a copy. I guess you've checked the ASKC library?
How about it Shelley, do you know if we have this one in the club library?

Gary Pittman

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:48 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Home Observatories


Hi Y'all:

I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
Amazon.com.

Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?

Thanks!

-Dave Dembinski



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Dave, This is the only book we have in the library on building an
observatory
Building and Using an Astronomical Observatory   Doherty, Paul
Have you tried Myrna Bishop? She deals in old and new astro books.
her web adress is
http://www.astronomybooksonline.com/

Hope this helps :) Shelley



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Sent: Wednesday, JanuaryBuilding and Using an Astronomical Observato 31,
2001 7:48 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Home Observatories


Hi Y'all:

I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
Amazon.com.

Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?

Thanks!

-Dave Dembinski



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Dave - seems to me that I have seen a copy in our club library! Dave

ddembinski@... wrote:

> Hi Y'all:
>
> I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
> Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
> edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
> County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
> Amazon.com.
>
> Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Dave Dembinski
>
>
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I used to have this book, but I loaned it out several years ago and have lost track of who has it.  I didn't think it was all that ggod a book, frankly.  The following web site has a lot of good ideas on backyard observatory design:

http://www2.crl.go.jp/ka/tnp/obs/obslist.html

John Anderson
anderiii@...

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> Dave - seems to me that I have seen a copy in our club library! Dave
ddembinski@... wrote:

> Hi Y'all:
>
> I've been trying to get my hands on a book - "Small Astronomical
> Observatories: Amateur and Professional Designs and Constructions"
> edited by Patrick Moore.  Lymax doesn't have it, nor does the Johnson
> County Library.  It is out of print and not available at Buy.com or
> Amazon.com.
>
> Anyone out there have a copy they could sell or loan to me?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Dave Dembinski
>
>
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Hello all,
Thursday night may be a chance to do some useful backyard observations of
the moon looking for a Lunar Transient Phenomena Event.
So, if you don't come to the ASKC board meeting (or its over in time) get
the scope and moon map out and have fun looking at the moon. You might just
see one of those rare events and help solve a lunar puzzle.
Kathy

Here is an explanatory message copied from the astro officer e-groups:

A Call to Observe: Lunar Observations of Toricelli B

The Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers (ALPO) asks lunar observers
worldwide to participate in a project the night of Thursday, February 8, to
verify predictions by some astronomers of a distinct and extreme brightening
of a certain crater on the Moon's surface.

It was on January 29, 1983, that the crater Torricelli B was for a short
time said to be the brightest spot visible on the Moon. Now, after 18 years
and 10.33 days  called a "saros"  the Earth, Moon and Sun will be in the
exact same geometrical position, and the Torricelli B "Lunar Transient
Phenomena" event could repeat.

In order to match the 1983 conditions, the recommended viewing time should
begin about February 9, at 0400 Universal Time (or February 8, 11 p.m.
Eastern Time/8 p.m. Pacific Time in the United States).

Lunar Transient Phenomena, or "LTP's" as they are more commonly called, are
short-lived events observed on the lunar surface that may last for only a
few seconds or even a few hours. There are various explanations for LTP's,
including outgassing with piezzoelectrical ignition through holes in the
lunar surface (a possible indicator of lunar geologic activity), meteor
strikes (like the much-documented Leonid report) and even lunar surface soil
composition (which requires exact repositioning of the Earth, Moon and Sun
for a change in brightness to recur).

Crater Torricelli B is only 7 kilometers (4.2 miles) in diameter and lies at
lunar coordinates 2.6 degrees south and 29.1 degrees east. It is one of
several companion craters near the much larger crater Torricelli,  23
kilometers (13.8 miles) in diameter. The feature was named for Italian
physicist Evangelica Torricelli (1608-1647), inventor of the mercury
barometer and a contemporary of the famed Galileo Galilei.

The ALPO has an entire observing section dedicated to the study of LTP's and
has an online report form posted at

http://www.stas.net/5/moonglows/moonglows.html

A second website with details about the predicted Torricelli B event is at:

http://www.wfs.be.schule.de/pages/torricelli/E_index.html

Those with any kind of observing aids are asked to assist. Says David O.
Darling, coordinator of the ALPO TLP section, "The observing program of
Torricelli B will consist of monitoring the crater for any abnormal albedo
variance. I realize that many observers have no prior observational
experience of this crater, but good scientific data can still be obtained."

Mr. Darling recommends comparing Torricelli B to other features such as
nearby craters Censorinus, Proclus, and the interior of Aristarchus. These
albedo comparison estimates will be extremely useful to quantifying the
accumulated data. Photo images via ccd (charge-coupled-device) camera, video
camera and standard still camera are also excellent tools to document
Torricelli B's apparent brightness when it is compared to other features.

Those with questions about making albedo measurements should access the Dave
Darling's online TLP observing manual for guidance.

The ALPO was founded in 1947 as a means for serious amateur astronomers to
share their observations of the Moon, planets, Sun and other members of our
Solar System.  While local clubs and national organizations promote and
foster general observing activities, the ALPO serves as the only
international organization of its kind dedicated to serious study of the
Solar System.

For more information, visit the ALPO website at:

http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/alpo/

The webpages are now updated to reflect the following:

1) Feb 2001 Calendar
2) 2001 Powell Observatory Schedule
3) Addition of phone number and contact for reservations at Powell
4) 2001 Powell Gardens Schedule
5) Added "TITLES" to pages (see top of your brower window)

Still looking for more pics. Won't do any additional adding of pics 
until I have more to work with.
Tom Martinez has been busy, and hasn't had much time to do any 
additional work on the history page. Will add more as I get it.

If you see any errors, or corrections that are needed, please let me 
know. Added query: Do we want somewhere, either public or hidden, the 
teams/team schedule information, so that it is available on the net?
I believe we had this available at one time (Gina? Was this on your 
website?).

Walt "Rob" Robinson
webmaster

re: http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm

Some areas of the world, such as India, parts of Asia and Africa are 
not covered by any of the other asteroidal sites (e.g. European, New 
Zealand, etc). The asteroidal pages are now including these areas, 
until such time a webmaster wishes to incorporated these areas into 
their own webpages. Predictions, detailed path maps and additional 
information MAY NOT always be available, due to availability of 
current astrometry. For those using the Occult program, it is 
suggested that you use the asteroid modules within the program for 
more localized data. I can generate event data (predictions and path 
maps)and put it on the website, but with other duties and 
reponsibilities, along with a full time job, I may not always have
the time to do this. 

The "keys" to the events will remain the same:

nothing before the asteroid number = IOTA observable event
(*) before the asteroid number = Does not meet IOTA criteria
(#) before the asteroid number = Other than Western Hemisphere

I have a request for and off site program as follows:

Becky Botts with the Lakewood School. - 2400 W. 123rd in Overland Park. 
Her home phone:  913-681-4850

Request for telescopes/astron. Program at their school on Feb. 13, or the
15th, or the 16th.

If anyone is interested in doing this, give me a call. 


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I don't want to make this sound like an advertisement, but I know we 
have many new members to the club who has never heard of our local 
astronomy book store! An excellent source of astronomy books, in 
print and out of print, along with some rare volumes, can be 
purchased locally from Myrna Bishop Bookseller, located in Linwood 
Kansas (just north of DeSoto Kansas).
She has an online website, with selected works that can even be 
purchased online. Her website is located at:

www.astronomybooksonline.com

If you have never been to her in-home bookstore, and would like to 
see some of the 500+ volumes on astronomy, give her a call at 913-441-
3605 to make an appointment.

Walt Dave had a calander with the team scheudle and I used it alot. I would
like to see another one. Shelley

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To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] web page updates


The webpages are now updated to reflect the following:

1) Feb 2001 Calendar
2) 2001 Powell Observatory Schedule
3) Addition of phone number and contact for reservations at Powell
4) 2001 Powell Gardens Schedule
5) Added "TITLES" to pages (see top of your brower window)

Still looking for more pics. Won't do any additional adding of pics
until I have more to work with.
Tom Martinez has been busy, and hasn't had much time to do any
additional work on the history page. Will add more as I get it.

If you see any errors, or corrections that are needed, please let me
know. Added query: Do we want somewhere, either public or hidden, the
teams/team schedule information, so that it is available on the net?
I believe we had this available at one time (Gina? Was this on your
website?).

Walt "Rob" Robinson
webmaster




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Team schedule:  the calendar for the AIC teams is still in use and where
it's always been, on the ASKCasteroids egroup (well, yahoogroup now).
However, if you talk about the keyholders teams for public programs, that
schedule was kept by Dave Probert on a different website.

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
  Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:14 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] web page updates


  Walt Dave had a calander with the team scheudle and I used it alot. I
would
  like to see another one. Shelley

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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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  The webpages are now updated to reflect the following:

  1) Feb 2001 Calendar
  2) 2001 Powell Observatory Schedule
  3) Addition of phone number and contact for reservations at Powell
  4) 2001 Powell Gardens Schedule
  5) Added "TITLES" to pages (see top of your brower window)

  Still looking for more pics. Won't do any additional adding of pics
  until I have more to work with.
  Tom Martinez has been busy, and hasn't had much time to do any
  additional work on the history page. Will add more as I get it.

  If you see any errors, or corrections that are needed, please let me
  know. Added query: Do we want somewhere, either public or hidden, the
  teams/team schedule information, so that it is available on the net?
  I believe we had this available at one time (Gina? Was this on your
  website?).

  Walt "Rob" Robinson
  webmaster




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Gina

Can you please tell me what my password is.  I thought I used my
standard password that I normally use.  "regulus"

Thanks,

Joe

Unless otherwise directed by the Board of Directors, I will keep the ASKC Board of Directors and general membership advised of developments with the NASA grant and the asteroid imaging program via this egroup. 

Most of you know by now the Board of Directors voted 16 to 1 to accept the NASA grant with Larry Robinson as Principal Investigator. David Young was appointed as liaison between NASA, Larry and the Board of Directors. I did NOT suggest this or volunteer for the position but I accepted and will do my best to make this program work for the ASKC and the astronomical community as a whole.

I called Judy Robinson and asked her to notify Larry of the board action if she talked to him Thursday night. I also sent Larry an email with the same information. 

I spoke with Joyce at the Goddard Space center today and faxed her the tax papers I picked up at the board meeting. She indicated a check made out to ASKC should be mailed in 2-3 weeks. I left her my home, cell and fax numbers so there should be no problem with communications if they need anything else.

 I have spoken with Larry.  He called in to NASA talk to Joyce while I was on the other line with her and then called me after he talked to Joyce. Larry suggested a coordination meeting Tuesday night at 6:30 for all interested parties. He indicated he could arrange for a conference room at his company office near 63rd and Blue Ridge. Any other suggestions? Please let me know who is interested in attending and if the date, place and time are ok. If there are problems with any of the preceding please make alternate constructive suggestions for a meeting time or place. You can reach me at home at 913-631-8413 or on my cell at 913-558-1155. 

I will contact Apogee today and inquire about the current pricing and availability of the AP-8 camera we are interested in. Information obtained will be posted here. They are not the easiest people to get information out of so it may be a day or two before I get the info we're looking for.





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David,

>  Larry suggested a coordination meeting Tuesday night at 6:30 for all 
> interested parties. He indicated he could arrange for a conference room 
> at his company office near 63rd and Blue Ridge. Any other suggestions?

I plan to be there.  However, I'm generally not available Tuesday evenings, 
so another night would be better for future meetings.

I've been to his office -- there is ample (& comfortable) meeting 
space.  Even though it is not right next to I-435,
it's easy to get to.

>  Please let me know who is interested in attending and if the date, place 
> and time are ok. If there are problems with any of the preceding please 
> make alternate constructive suggestions for a meeting time or place. You 
> can reach me at home at 913-631-8413 or on my cell at 913-558-1155.

Roger

Shelly,
There is an e-group(yahoo group)  for ASKC key-holders. It would require
quite a bit of work, but would it be worthwhile to put the team schedule for
the year on that calendar?
And maybe a file in the file area showing the schedule for the year, team
leaders & members, etc?
(I do not have this info handy in electronic format).
The key-holder group doesn't have a lot of members, so is it even worth
doing all that work?
Or, should we try to revitalize it with more info?

I've got more questions than answers on this one.
Kathy

--- In ASKC@y..., "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@k...> wrote:

> And maybe a file in the file area showing the schedule for the
year, 
team
> leaders & members, etc?
> (I do not have this info handy in electronic format).

I have the hard copies, which I could scan, and put into the 
ASKC-egroups file area, in PDF format, if this is acceptible.
This does not it make available to ALL keyholders though, since not 
all belong to the ASKC-egroups.
Another solution would be for me to put them into a special ASKC 
directory on my own website, and the URL could be given out at the 
general meeting. This would somewhat limit it to "public" viewing.

I would really like to come but I have another important eeting that nite .
If I get done early enough I will try to make it . Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gruenke [mailto:rgruenke@...]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] NASA grant


David,

>  Larry suggested a coordination meeting Tuesday night at 6:30 for all
> interested parties. He indicated he could arrange for a conference room
> at his company office near 63rd and Blue Ridge. Any other suggestions?

I plan to be there.  However, I'm generally not available Tuesday evenings,
so another night would be better for future meetings.

I've been to his office -- there is ample (& comfortable) meeting
space.  Even though it is not right next to I-435,
it's easy to get to.

>  Please let me know who is interested in attending and if the date, place
> and time are ok. If there are problems with any of the preceding please
> make alternate constructive suggestions for a meeting time or place. You
> can reach me at home at 913-631-8413 or on my cell at 913-558-1155.

Roger



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Roger Gruenke wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> >  Larry suggested a coordination meeting Tuesday night at 6:30 for all
> > interested parties. He indicated he could arrange for a conference room
> > at his company office near 63rd and Blue Ridge. Any other suggestions?
> 
> I plan to be there.  However, I'm generally not available Tuesday evenings,
> so another night would be better for future meetings.
> 
> I've been to his office -- there is ample (& comfortable) meeting
> space.  Even though it is not right next to I-435,
> it's easy to get to.
> 
> >  Please let me know who is interested in attending and if the date, place
> > and time are ok. If there are problems with any of the preceding please
> > make alternate constructive suggestions for a meeting time or place. You
> > can reach me at home at 913-631-8413 or on my cell at 913-558-1155.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> ASKC-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Larry & David

I can make the meeting.

Joe

I would definitely like to see it somewhere on line, as I can never
find my paper copies when I need them.  I think it would be worth the
work to put it somewhere.

The ASKC-Keyholders e-group would be good if most of the keyholders
belonged, but it's been dormant since last summer, and with only 13
subscribers it's not the best place for now.

--- In ASKC@y..., Dennis Budd <nitewing@u...> wrote:
> The ASKC-Keyholders e-group would be good if most of the keyholders
> belonged, but it's been dormant since last summer, and with only 13
> subscribers it's not the best place for now.

Didn't know this still even existed.
Did a search, along with browsing through the groups, and did not
find anything related to ASKC-Keyholders. In fact, ASKC did not even 
show up on the search or browsing the science|astronomy|amateur 
category.
I just wonder if Yahoo incorporated all of the former Egroup groups, 
into the Yahoo listings?
If this group still exists, what is the correct name of the group?
Can we reactivate it? Who is the owner?

Roger,
I have another meeting Tuesday night.  From 6:30 to about 8:45.  I will try 
to make it another time.
Tim Kristl


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On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 webmaster@... wrote:

>--- In ASKC@y..., Dennis Budd <nitewing@u...> wrote:
>> The ASKC-Keyholders e-group would be good if most of the keyholders
>> belonged, but it's been dormant since last summer, and with only 13
>> subscribers it's not the best place for now.
>
>Didn't know this still even existed.
>Did a search, along with browsing through the groups, and did not
>find anything related to ASKC-Keyholders. In fact, ASKC did not even 
>show up on the search or browsing the science|astronomy|amateur 
>category.
>I just wonder if Yahoo incorporated all of the former Egroup groups, 
>into the Yahoo listings?
>If this group still exists, what is the correct name of the group?
>Can we reactivate it?

It's there.  The URL is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKCKeyHolders.

I guess the E-mail would be ASKCKeyHolders@yahoogroups.com.

Looks to me like you're one of the 13 subscribers.  I'm another one of
them.  Dave Probert created it and it fell by the wayside when he quit
as scheduler, but if anyone sent a message I'm sure the others would
get it.

>Who is the owner?

According to the members page, the  owner is Dave Belton.  And if I
remember correctly, it was subscription-by-owner.

Dennis

OK group,
Thursday night I wrote down the e-mail address for our new neewsletter
editor, Fiske Miles.
Now, I can not find that piece of paper.

So, help me if you can, what is his e-mail?

thanks
Kathy

Rob,
This is my opinion as an individual, not to be construed as a 
presidential directive  :-)
Go ahead and scan and post on the yahoo-groups site. At least it will 
be quickly available for those who are on yahoo-groups. Those who are 
not on the group but have computers could easily access your web 
site, but they could also join e-groups, edit their profile to not 
get messages sent to them, and have access to the pdf files by 
logging on to the group. I don't think the files are visible to non-
members, but I could easily be wrong.
It's just my opinion,
what do the majority of key-holders want?
kathy


--- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> --- In ASKC@y..., "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
> 
> > And maybe a file in the file area showing the schedule for the
> year, 
> team
> > leaders & members, etc?
> > (I do not have this info handy in electronic format).
> 
> I have the hard copies, which I could scan, and put into the 
> ASKC-egroups file area, in PDF format, if this is acceptible.
> This does not it make available to ALL keyholders though, since not 
> all belong to the ASKC-egroups.
> Another solution would be for me to put them into a special ASKC 
> directory on my own website, and the URL could be given out at the 
> general meeting. This would somewhat limit it to "public" viewing.

I think he said fiskem3@...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:07 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] e-mail address for Fiske


  OK group,
  Thursday night I wrote down the e-mail address for our new neewsletter
  editor, Fiske Miles.
  Now, I can not find that piece of paper.

  So, help me if you can, what is his e-mail?

  thanks
  Kathy


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You are correct, Kathy:  files on private egroups/yahoogroups are not
accessible by non-members.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: kmachin@... [mailto:kmachin@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:25 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Keyholder schedule


  Rob,
  This is my opinion as an individual, not to be construed as a
  presidential directive  :-)
  Go ahead and scan and post on the yahoo-groups site. At least it will
  be quickly available for those who are on yahoo-groups. Those who are
  not on the group but have computers could easily access your web
  site, but they could also join e-groups, edit their profile to not
  get messages sent to them, and have access to the pdf files by
  logging on to the group. I don't think the files are visible to non-
  members, but I could easily be wrong.
  It's just my opinion,
  what do the majority of key-holders want?
  kathy


  --- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
  > --- In ASKC@y..., "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
  >
  > > And maybe a file in the file area showing the schedule for the
  > year,
  > team
  > > leaders & members, etc?
  > > (I do not have this info handy in electronic format).
  >
  > I have the hard copies, which I could scan, and put into the
  > ASKC-egroups file area, in PDF format, if this is acceptible.
  > This does not it make available to ALL keyholders though, since not
  > all belong to the ASKC-egroups.
  > Another solution would be for me to put them into a special ASKC
  > directory on my own website, and the URL could be given out at the
  > general meeting. This would somewhat limit it to "public" viewing.


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I will have these in place Sunday evening, as pdf files in the files 
area. I will have them broke down into the separate pages as they
were distributed.
On a side note, the address that was given for the old group, comes
up with an "Opps! ASKCKeyHolders group not found".


--- In ASKC@y..., kmachin@k... wrote:
> Rob,
> This is my opinion as an individual, not to be construed as a 
> presidential directive  :-)
> Go ahead and scan and post on the yahoo-groups site. At least it 
will 
> be quickly available for those who are on yahoo-groups. Those who 
are 
> not on the group but have computers could easily access your web 
> site, but they could also join e-groups, edit their profile to not 
> get messages sent to them, and have access to the pdf files by 
> logging on to the group. I don't think the files are visible to non-
> members, but I could easily be wrong.
> It's just my opinion,
> what do the majority of key-holders want?
> kathy

Kathy,
Fiske's email is:
FMiles01@...
Let me know if you have any questions,
Tim Kristl


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That's the address I wrote down Gina. I haven't used it yet.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:40 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] e-mail address for Fiske


I think he said fiskem3@...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 12:07 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] e-mail address for Fiske


  OK group,
  Thursday night I wrote down the e-mail address for our new neewsletter
  editor, Fiske Miles.
  Now, I can not find that piece of paper.

  So, help me if you can, what is his e-mail?

  thanks
  Kathy


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Well, if you didn't come to the Guacamole Grill last night you missed a
great time. The food was good, the company exceptional and I think everyone
had a really good time. We had about 30 people in attendance. That's less
than ten percent of the club membership. Everyone present received a door
prize including some good ones donated by Lymax. Thanks Bob and Janet.

Amy Hahn did a wonderful job putting things together. Thanks for all your
efforts Amy.

Gary Pittman
Membership Chair
A.S.K.C.
gary_rp@...

With the change from egroups to yahoo you now have to go to

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKCKeyHolders.

Dave Probert

--- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> I will have these in place Sunday evening, as pdf files in the files
> area. I will have them broke down into the separate pages as they
> were distributed.
> On a side note, the address that was given for the old group, comes
> up with an "Opps! ASKCKeyHolders group not found".
>
>
> --- In ASKC@y..., kmachin@k... wrote:
> > Rob,
> > This is my opinion as an individual, not to be construed as a
> > presidential directive  :-)
> > Go ahead and scan and post on the yahoo-groups site. At least it
> will
> > be quickly available for those who are on yahoo-groups. Those who
> are
> > not on the group but have computers could easily access your web
> > site, but they could also join e-groups, edit their profile to not
> > get messages sent to them, and have access to the pdf files by
> > logging on to the group. I don't think the files are visible to non-
> > members, but I could easily be wrong.
> > It's just my opinion,
> > what do the majority of key-holders want?
> > kathy

Your right Gary.  Lots of food and lots of good times held by everyone.  No
one left with out a doorprize (have you used your Romance oils yet Gary?).
Bob and Janet from Lymax always make this a special time with their
donations.

Gloria and I also thank Amy for everything you did.  Great job.

Tom

Well I was wrong, My appt is at 2:00 so I will be there after all. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gruenke [mailto:rgruenke@...]
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] NASA grant


David,

>  Larry suggested a coordination meeting Tuesday night at 6:30 for all
> interested parties. He indicated he could arrange for a conference room
> at his company office near 63rd and Blue Ridge. Any other suggestions?

I plan to be there.  However, I'm generally not available Tuesday evenings,
so another night would be better for future meetings.

I've been to his office -- there is ample (& comfortable) meeting
space.  Even though it is not right next to I-435,
it's easy to get to.

>  Please let me know who is interested in attending and if the date, place
> and time are ok. If there are problems with any of the preceding please
> make alternate constructive suggestions for a meeting time or place. You
> can reach me at home at 913-631-8413 or on my cell at 913-558-1155.

Roger



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Hi David and any others wishing to participate:

Directions to Larry's office:

Take I-435 on the east side of town to 63rd Street (the Raytown exit)
Take 63rd Street east
Go about a mile up the hill until you see the Price Chopper on the north
side of 63rd Street
Larry's office is the three story office building on the east side of the
Price Chopper parking lot
The building is next to the Bank on the Northwest corner of 63rd Street and
Blue Ridge Cut-off
Come in the basement door on the back side (west side)

If you get there before 5:15 you can go to dinner with us at Applebee's on
63rd street across the street

We will be back by 6:30 for the meeting
We hope we will be finished by 8.
Call Larry if you get lost
	 816-668-6285 is Larry's cell number.

See you at the meeting.

Roger

Okay....
The observatory and team schedules are now located in the files area.
They were formatted in .pdf files, so no one should have a problem 
reading them (eliminates incompatibilities of .doc files).
They are:

teams.pdf
duty.pdf
powell.pdf
garden.pdf

Files names should easily explain content.
Sorry for the delay. Had the network down over the weekend for 
upgrading and it took longer than I thought.

Good job Rob.  I also one that loses the paper versions and has to look up
the schedules in a known area.
Thanks,

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: webmaster@...
[mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Observatory/Team Schedules


Okay....
The observatory and team schedules are now located in the files area.

Roger, Kathy and i will join you and Larry and any others for dinner.

                                                                    Gil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Gruenke" <rgruenke@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; <dhudgins@...>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Tuesday NASA meeting -- Directions to Larry's office


: Hi David and any others wishing to participate:
: 
: Directions to Larry's office:
: 

Is there anyone from ASKC going to the Winter Star Party.

                                                      Gil

Rick Singmaster is going.

Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: gmachin@... <gmachin@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:14 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Winter Star Party


Is there anyone from ASKC going to the Winter Star Party.

                                                      Gil




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Team #2 has the duty at Powell Gardens Friday, Feb 16. I haven't been able to anyone but Mark Rump so I suspect I will be short handed. Any help would be appreciated. I picked up slides for Saturn last week so I am ready to do the program. Please let me know via phone at 913-631-8413 if you can come out. E-Mail is sporadic while I overhaul my computer setup.


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David I can be out to help you Friday night.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:23 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Friday Night
> 
> 
> Team #2 has the duty at Powell Gardens Friday, Feb 16. I haven't 
> been able to anyone but Mark Rump so I suspect I will be short 
> handed. Any help would be appreciated. I picked up slides for 
> Saturn last week so I am ready to do the program. Please let me 
> know via phone at 913-631-8413 if you can come out. E-Mail is 
> sporadic while I overhaul my computer setup.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> ASKC-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> 
> 

Hello,

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One of my kids sent me this pic from school today. I thought it was 
very cool and weird. If you havent seen this check it out.
shelley

Rick Singmaster is Gone.  He left this morning.  (Thursday, the 15th)

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"May starlight always fall on your path."
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Ketchum 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Winter Star Party


  Rick Singmaster is going.

  Jim
  -----Original Message-----
  From: gmachin@... <gmachin@...>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:14 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Winter Star Party


  Is there anyone from ASKC going to the Winter Star Party.

                                                        Gil




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A group of people will be meeting at Powell Observatory Friday night to start doing some preliminary work in preparation for implementing a NEO search program using the 30". Feel free to join in. You don't have to do any work unless you want to. You can just watch and heckle ;-)

Team #2 will be going to Powell Gardens to do a program but I plan to go down to Powell if we finish up soon enough. 


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Just to keep everyone advised, I just talked to NASA again to straighten out some addresses. I gave them our mailing address again. They also needed to get the location of the observatory. It seems they need to track the money by congressional district. All questions answered and they are happy again.

Dick Trenton reports the water is back on at Powell. It seems they found a leak in the main over in one of the soccer fields and fixed it about noon.


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Ooopss! No disrespect for Dick. My spell checker changed his name to trenton and I didn't catch it in time.


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At 07:23 AM 2/15/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Team #2 has the duty at Powell Gardens Friday, Feb 16. I haven't been able 
>to anyone but Mark Rump so I suspect I will be short handed. Any help 
>would be appreciated. I picked up slides for Saturn last week so I am 
>ready to do the program. Please let me know via phone at 913-631-8413 if 
>you can come out. E-Mail is sporadic while I overhaul my computer setup.

The program is scheduled to begin at 7:00 PM inside.  Telescopes and 
binoculars should be
set up on the lawn in the circle in front of the main building for 
observing after David Young
finishes the presentation inside.

Roger

  The program is scheduled to begin at 7:00 PM inside.  Telescopes and 
  binoculars should be
  set up on the lawn in the circle in front of the main building for 
  observing after David Young
  finishes the presentation inside.


  Gil should be bringing the new 16" that will wind up in the VOS at Powell. I have printed out some satellite pass predictions. The only Iridium flare is a mag-2 at 5:53 or right about sunset. I also have some star charts to pass out.



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Is it time to get our own ASKC domain name?
The cost isn't that high from what I've read in the magazines. Web site
hosting at a new site would also necessarily need to be explored. We only
have 5MB where we are now. That's not a lot of room when you consider that
the last newsletter pdf file ran over 2MB.

So what are your thoughts?

Kathy

Hey.... the idea to have an ASKC domain sounds very good on the surface to me,
although I must admit to being a real novice in this area.  : ^ ) We should
look at all the advantages & opportunities, the disadvantages as Rob
mentioned, and both the financial and human resource costs. I'd love to see
the capability for members to post small pictures and a few words about news
items of common interest. For example, last night we had a real mob down at
Powell with Dick Trent & others pulling cable for the new camera setup on the
30". What a wild and happy group! I wish I'd had a camera!    My2cents - Dave

Kathy Machin wrote:

> Is it time to get our own ASKC domain name?
> The cost isn't that high from what I've read in the magazines. Web site
> hosting at a new site would also necessarily need to be explored. We only
> have 5MB where we are now. That's not a lot of room when you consider that
> the last newsletter pdf file ran over 2MB.
>
> So what are your thoughts?
>
> Kathy
>
>
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I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After 
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead 
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week 
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had 
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out 
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on 
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low 
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of 
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door 
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with 
the material, which is also on their website: 
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest 
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7" 
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per 
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit 
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents 
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.  
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats 
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here. 
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy 
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material, 
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian

Tom Ill take a piece 9 3/4 x9 3/4   shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: martinez@... [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After 
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead 
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week 
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had 
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out 
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on 
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low 
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of 
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door 
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with 
the material, which is also on their website: 
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest 
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7" 
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per 
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit 
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents 
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.  
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats 
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here. 
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy 
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material, 
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian




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  Is it time to get our own ASKC domain name?
  The cost isn't that high from what I've read in the magazines. Web site
  hosting at a new site would also necessarily need to be explored. We only
  have 5MB where we are now. That's not a lot of room when you consider that
  the last newsletter pdf file ran over 2MB.


  I still have my sound.net account and the web space that goes with it. Rob is welcome to use and link to my 5 meg of space anytime. 



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I would like a 6x6 piece



----- Original Message -----
From: martinez@...
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with
the material, which is also on their website:
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7"
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here.
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material,
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian




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Tom,  
Larry changed his mind and now needs a piece 10"x10".  Sorry for the confusion. Sharon

----- Original Message -----
From: martinez@...
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with
the material, which is also on their website:
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7"
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here.
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material,
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian




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The stuff is so cheap that I'd like to have some for several scopes. Assuming you have an ample supply and I'm not hogging it, I'd like a piece for two 4.5" scopes, a piece for an 6" scope and a piece for an 8" scope.

Once again, if you are running short I'll wait for the next go around. Let's wait until after the general meeting to see if there's enough. I was thinking of sending some to Bolivia with the two little 4.5" scopes I'm building to send south.


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Tom,

I would like a piece large enough to make a filter for an 11 inch Schmidt
Cassegrain.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: martinez@... [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with
the material, which is also on their website:
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7"
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here.
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material,
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian




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I agree. The cost is manageable, for the most part, and more space would be
needed if the plan is to make the newsletter available on-line.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:03 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] opinions wanted
>
>
> Is it time to get our own ASKC domain name?
> The cost isn't that high from what I've read in the magazines. Web site
> hosting at a new site would also necessarily need to be explored. We only
> have 5MB where we are now. That's not a lot of room when you consider that
> the last newsletter pdf file ran over 2MB.
>
> So what are your thoughts?
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> ASKC-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>

Shelley, Larry, and David:  To make sure you are getting the right size
sheet of Baader film for your telescope, are you taking into account the
size of the cell that the film will fit into?

For instance, my refractor's objective is 6" in diameter and the objective's
cell outside diameter is 7".  The filter cell I made has 1/8" cylinder
walls, so the total outside diameter of the filter cell is 7 1/4", which is
the size film I cut.

If I was making a filter cell for an 8" newtonian I would have to take into
account spacing between the mirror and the inside diameter of the tube and
the tube wall thickness.  Normally you have 1" space on each side of the
mirror, making that dimension 10", then you take into account the wall
thickness of the tube, lets say its 3/8", on each side.  The total would
then be 10 3/4".

So David, you want 2 pieces for 4 1/2" scopes, 1 for a 6" scope and 1 for an
8" scope.  Please give me the total dimensions as above for each scope.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian

More info on the Baader AstroSolar Safety Film:

After I sent the message asking if anyone wanted some of the new solar
filter film, I realized that maybe some of the ASKC members do not know
about it, especially if they do not take Sky & Telescope magazine.

In the September 2000 issue of S&T, page 63, Alan MacRobert wrote a test
report on this new thin-film white-light solar material.  Without going into
the whole article, he says that this filter is whiter, brighter, sharper and
cheaper than anything else out today.

You can buy it in three forms:
AstroSolar Density 5 - Visual,2 sizes: 7.9" X 11.4" or 19.7" X 39.4"
AstroSolar Density 3.8 - Photographic only, 1 size: 19.7" X 39.4"
AstroSolar TurboFilm Clear - Clear, not a solar filter.  Used for covering
optics against heavy dew, salt spray, and dusty situations. 1 size: 20" X
50"

AstroPhysics, the manufacturer of high quality refractors says the following
about the Baader films:

This is a new high-strength polymer unlike anything else sold today. The
manufacturer uses a patented high-temperature process, similar t annealing,
to eliminate internal strains.  The material is then ion implanted and
metallized with a tough, color neutral layer on both sides of the film that
stands up to considerable abuse, unlike the metallized mylar materials used
in other solar filters.  The coating cannot easily be rubbed off, and in
that respect is actually safer than coated glass filters.  A double-pass
interferometer test measured a 94 percent Strehl Ratio when placed over a 6"
test optic.  Compare this to Strehl ratios of 45 percent for aluminized
Mylar and less than 24 percent for inexpesive glass solar filters.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian

Gary:  I don't know what size that would be.  Is it 12 inches, 13 inches?
Or somewhere inbetween?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film

I would like a piece large enough to make a filter for an 11 inch Schmidt
Cassegrain.

Gary

   Compare this to Strehl ratios of 45 percent for aluminized
  Mylar and less than 24 percent for inexpesive glass solar filters.


  Ok, I'll be the one to look stupid. What's a Strehl ratio?



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Tom My scope is a 8" dob and the width across the tube is 9 3/4 should I
just get a 10" peice to be on the safe side?
shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Shelley, Larry, and David:  To make sure you are getting the right size
sheet of Baader film for your telescope, are you taking into account the
size of the cell that the film will fit into?

For instance, my refractor's objective is 6" in diameter and the objective's
cell outside diameter is 7".  The filter cell I made has 1/8" cylinder
walls, so the total outside diameter of the filter cell is 7 1/4", which is
the size film I cut.

If I was making a filter cell for an 8" newtonian I would have to take into
account spacing between the mirror and the inside diameter of the tube and
the tube wall thickness.  Normally you have 1" space on each side of the
mirror, making that dimension 10", then you take into account the wall
thickness of the tube, lets say its 3/8", on each side.  The total would
then be 10 3/4".

So David, you want 2 pieces for 4 1/2" scopes, 1 for a 6" scope and 1 for an
8" scope.  Please give me the total dimensions as above for each scope.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian



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Forecast is for clouds and light rain tonight. The Monday night forcast is currently calling for mostly clear.

I suggest we officially cancel tonight.

How many are up for a Monday night session?


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David Young wrote:
> 
> Forecast is for clouds and light rain tonight. The Monday night forcast is currently calling for mostly clear.
> 
> I suggest we officially cancel tonight.
> 
> How many are up for a Monday night session?
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi David,

Sounds like a plan. I'm off on Monday, so a late night at Powell before
work on Tuesday would put me in just the right disposition to kick off
the week!
-- 


Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick      

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I can be there Monday night  .. Roger the CX for tonight..  Dick T

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:52 PM
To: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com
Cc: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell


Forecast is for clouds and light rain tonight. The Monday night forcast is
currently calling for mostly clear.

I suggest we officially cancel tonight.

How many are up for a Monday night session?


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Shelley:  It'll cost you approximately the same, so I'll just cut you a 10"
square piece.  Be sure to take a look at the webpage on how to construct a
cell for the filter;
 http://www.astrovid.com/Baader%20Filter%20Cell%20Instructions.htm

Tom Martinez
ASKC historian

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:34 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Tom My scope is a 8" dob and the width across the tube is 9 3/4 should I
just get a 10" peice to be on the safe side?
shelley

Notice this is a public message.

I just saw a couple of responses to an e-mail that apparently annoyed some people. I did not get a copy of the e-mail that started the latest round of horse shit. 

I DO NOT WANT A COPY OF IT!

I do not want to see any more responses to it. Please do not carbon copy me about it. I will delete without finishing any e-mail that I start reading that so much as looks like it is related to this topic. This is the kind of crap that will sink the NEO project to the great detriment of the ASKC. The only possible explanation for continuation of this e-mail warfare is that you want the ASKC to fail in this project. If you continue this snipping that is exactly what will happen. 

There are numerous conflicting personalities in the ASKC. If you have something  negative to say and think I need to know about it, pick up a phone or talk to me in person. 

Broadcast e-mail is not the place for personal snipping. Yeah, so why am I doing it? Who elected me king? I am supposed to facilitate the NEO project and I intend to do just that to the best of my egocentric ability. I don't want to see or hear about any more e-mailed negative personal comments about anyone involved in any ASKC project. 


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I have Powell reserved for tonight since it's supposed to be clear.

If you would like to come down and tinker please leave me a note. 

Also please check back here about 5:00 to see if we are go or no go for weather or lack of participation.


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Tom, if you have any left over, I'd like a 6" square piece.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: martinez@... [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film
> 
> 
> I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After 
> many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead 
> ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week 
> to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had 
> on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.
> 
> Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out 
> today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on 
> the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low 
> power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of 
> detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door 
> prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.
> 
> I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with 
> the material, which is also on their website: 
> http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm
> 
> At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest 
> piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7" 
> by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per 
> square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit 
> for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents 
> per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.  
> For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats 
> 52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.
> 
> If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here. 
> First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy 
> of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material, 
> I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.
> 
> Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> 
> 

If it is clear I should be down around 7:30.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:47 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Powell tonight
> 
> 
> I have Powell reserved for tonight since it's supposed to be clear.
> 
> If you would like to come down and tinker please leave me a note. 
> 
> Also please check back here about 5:00 to see if we are go or no 
> go for weather or lack of participation.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

Tom,

You still have a 9" by 9" square left?

Also, you may want to let the membership know about his at the next General
meeting.  Give info on how to get and then in a future tooltime show how to
create the cell for it.

-Scott

Tom Martinez wrote:

> Shelley:  It'll cost you approximately the same, so I'll just cut you a 10"
> square piece.  Be sure to take a look at the webpage on how to construct a
> cell for the filter;
>  http://www.astrovid.com/Baader%20Filter%20Cell%20Instructions.htm
>
> Tom Martinez
> ASKC historian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:34 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film
>
> Tom My scope is a 8" dob and the width across the tube is 9 3/4 should I
> just get a 10" peice to be on the safe side?
> shelley
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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At 07:46 AM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I have Powell reserved for tonight since it's supposed to be clear.
>
>If you would like to come down and tinker please leave me a note.

David,

I'll plan to arrive at Powell around 5 PM -- cloud patterns seem to
indicate it'll be clear tonight.

I'll try to get a new video cable for the low-light-level video camera
threaded through the conduit to the telescope, and bring a hole
saw to make mouse holes in the doors for the cables.  I won't
make the holes until you and others arrive.  Nick had planned to
do this Sunday when he brought the cameras back.

Roger

Tom:    Will also need a 10" square piece for my 8"
dob. Will pay for it at the meeting on the
24th......... Thanks in advance;     Bill
--- Tom Martinez <martinez@...> wrote:
> Shelley:  It'll cost you approximately the same, so
> I'll just cut you a 10"
> square piece.  Be sure to take a look at the webpage
> on how to construct a
> cell for the filter;
> 
>
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader%20Filter%20Cell%20Instructions.htm
> 
> Tom Martinez
> ASKC historian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:34 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film
> 
> 
> Tom My scope is a 8" dob and the width across the
> tube is 9 3/4 should I
> just get a 10" peice to be on the safe side?
> shelley
> 
> 
> 


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Roger:    Will be down at Powell about 6:30p.m.
Perhaps you can instruct me on the operation of the
30" and how to install the ccd camera on it...... See
you there......thanks in advance;      Bill
--- Roger Gruenke <rgruenke@...> wrote:
> At 07:46 AM 2/19/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >I have Powell reserved for tonight since it's
> supposed to be clear.
> >
> >If you would like to come down and tinker please
> leave me a note.
> 
> David,
> 
> I'll plan to arrive at Powell around 5 PM -- cloud
> patterns seem to
> indicate it'll be clear tonight.
> 
> I'll try to get a new video cable for the
> low-light-level video camera
> threaded through the conduit to the telescope, and
> bring a hole
> saw to make mouse holes in the doors for the cables.
>  I won't
> make the holes until you and others arrive.  Nick
> had planned to
> do this Sunday when he brought the cameras back.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 


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It looks like a full house tonight. I plan to pick up a piece of styrofoam or something similar to fashon a mask out of. If we decide it's not necessary I will return it tomorrow.

The following people will be at Powell tonight. Join us for fun, training or heckling.

DJ Kindberg
Gil Machin
Joe Alburty
Roger Gruenke
Bill Boyle
Dick Trentman
Richard Fredrick
Melisa Kirk
David Young


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This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give 
a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.

The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar observing 
sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our members
have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include these in 
the list.

We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.

Please let me know if you can be there.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg

The following people will have a piece of Baader AstroSolar Film at the ASKC
meeting:

Shelley Granger, 10"
Larry Goode, 10"
Darren Kindberg, 6"
Scott Kranz, 9"
I've already given David Anschutz an 11" piece, and I used a 7.25" piece.

What I have  3 pieces left over:
9.7" X 18.4"
7.15" X 8.25"
3.7" X 6"

If you can use them, let me know, otherwise I'll take them to the ASKC
meeting to see if anyone can use them.  I not, I can use them for my
binoculars and a smaller scope.

I am going to order another roll Gary, Pittman, David Young and William
Boyle's pieces and anyone else that might want one , but I don't think I'll
get it in time for the meeting.

Tom Martinez

Carroll:  I'll be there with a 6" scope and the club's solar projector.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: ciorg@... [mailto:ciorg@...]
Subject: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3


This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  

Tom I think Ay wants a piece about 10 x10 Thanks Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


The following people will have a piece of Baader AstroSolar Film at the ASKC
meeting:

Shelley Granger, 10"
Larry Goode, 10"
Darren Kindberg, 6"
Scott Kranz, 9"
I've already given David Anschutz an 11" piece, and I used a 7.25" piece.

What I have  3 pieces left over:
9.7" X 18.4"
7.15" X 8.25"
3.7" X 6"

If you can use them, let me know, otherwise I'll take them to the ASKC
meeting to see if anyone can use them.  I not, I can use them for my
binoculars and a smaller scope.

I am going to order another roll Gary, Pittman, David Young and William
Boyle's pieces and anyone else that might want one , but I don't think I'll
get it in time for the meeting.

Tom Martinez



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Carroll I plan on being there if i can get my solar filter made, Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: ciorg@... [mailto:ciorg@...]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:08 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3


This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give 
a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.

The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar observing 
sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our members
have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include these in 
the list.

We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.

Please let me know if you can be there.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg



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David i wont be there tonight , we are down to one car and my kids have
school functions. anyone know a good auto shop?  I need my car back
!!!!shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:47 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell tonight


I have Powell reserved for tonight since it's supposed to be clear.

If you would like to come down and tinker please leave me a note.

Also please check back here about 5:00 to see if we are go or no go for
weather or lack of participation.


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Great news!

I just returned from Powell where a group is shaking down the 30". Larry Robinson is working with Melissa Kirk and Richard Fredrick at the computers and Dick Trentman and Bill Boyle are aiming the telescope. When I left several NEOs had been imaged using the ST9E. They were getting 18+ mag NEOs in 30 second exposures. The rejuvenated desiccant and the careful cleaning job Nick did on the cameras made a major difference tonight. The 30" seemed to be relatively easy to point and matching the field of view to TheSky software was rapid. Roger Gruenke had the 1040 working but it may not be needed for aiming after all considering the apparent ease of pointing the 30" and finding the correct field of view. Gil, Joe Alburty and Scott Kranz were also imaging in the AIC. The huge field of the new camera should make pointing much easier.

It appears that we have a very serviceable instrument and we will have little problem routinely reaching below 19th magnitude with the new camera.


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Cool Wish I could be there


-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Asteroids


Great news!

I just returned from Powell where a group is shaking down the 30". Larry
Robinson is working with Melissa Kirk and Richard Fredrick at the computers
and Dick Trentman and Bill Boyle are aiming the telescope. When I left
several NEOs had been imaged using the ST9E. They were getting 18+ mag NEOs
in 30 second exposures. The rejuvenated desiccant and the careful cleaning
job Nick did on the cameras made a major difference tonight. The 30" seemed
to be relatively easy to point and matching the field of view to TheSky
software was rapid. Roger Gruenke had the 1040 working but it may not be
needed for aiming after all considering the apparent ease of pointing the
30" and finding the correct field of view. Gil, Joe Alburty and Scott Kranz
were also imaging in the AIC. The huge field of the new camera should make
pointing much easier.

It appears that we have a very serviceable instrument and we will have
little problem routinely reaching below 19th magnitude with the new camera.


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I totally agree, Kathy!  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Machin [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:03 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] opinions wanted


Is it time to get our own ASKC domain name?
The cost isn't that high from what I've read in the magazines. Web site
hosting at a new site would also necessarily need to be explored. We only
have 5MB where we are now. That's not a lot of room when you consider that
the last newsletter pdf file ran over 2MB.

So what are your thoughts?

Kathy



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Tom -- I will take a piece the size of Shelly, and maybe another one 5" x
10" for my binocs!
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 8:26 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Tom Ill take a piece 9 3/4 x9 3/4   shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: martinez@... [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 5:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  After
many weeks of trying to get it from the Baader Planetarium I instead
ordered it from Adirondack Video and Astronomy.  It only took a week
to get it from them, although they said it was the only roll they had
on stock at the time.  Another source is Astro-Physics.

Anyway, I constructed a cell for my 6-inch refractor and tried it out
today.  I am very pleased with the views.  I saw lots of detail on
the sunspots.  I even saw solar granulation and bright faculae at low
power (25X).  I could easily increase the power without loss of
detail.  My previous filter (source unknown, I won it as a door
prize) would not let me see much of anything at higher powers.

I constructed the cell according to the instructions that came with
the material, which is also on their website:
http://www.astrovid.com/Baader Filter Cell Instructions.htm

At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest
piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  The cost for the 19.7"
by 39.4" piece was $73.50.  That ends up costing $0.095 cents per
square inch, assuming every square inch will be used.  Allowing a bit
for spoilage (scraps too small for use), the cost will be $0.10 cents
per square inch.  All you need to do is tell me what size you need.
For instance, I needed a piece 7.25" X 7.25" for my 6" scope.  Thats
52.5 square inches, so the cost would be $5.25.

If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here.
First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy
of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material,
I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.

Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian




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Tom -- 

I need one for my 8" LX200.  Do you suppose I should go to 10" x 10", too?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:24 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Shelley:  It'll cost you approximately the same, so I'll just cut you a 10"
square piece.  Be sure to take a look at the webpage on how to construct a
cell for the filter;
 http://www.astrovid.com/Baader%20Filter%20Cell%20Instructions.htm

Tom Martinez
ASKC historian

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:34 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Tom My scope is a 8" dob and the width across the tube is 9 3/4 should I
just get a 10" peice to be on the safe side?
shelley




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Shelley:  Is the filter for her 8" Celestron?  I don't think she's on
egroups, so I'll contact her to get an exact size.
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film

Tom I think Ay wants a piece about 10 x10 Thanks Shelley

Tom,
Thanks!  I'll put you on the list.
Carroll


--- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
> Carroll:  I'll be there with a 6" scope and the club's solar 
projector.
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciorg@s... [mailto:ciorg@s...]
> Subject: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3
> 
> 
> This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
> at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.

Jackie:  Measure the outside diameter of your scope and your binoculars.
Once I get those numbers I'll see if I have enough material.  If not, you'll
have to wait until I get another order.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Beucher [mailto:m31@...]

I need one for my 8" LX200.  Do you suppose I should go to 10" x 10", too?

Shelley,
Thanks!  I'll put you on the list.
Carroll

--- In ASKC@y..., "Shelley Granger" <grangers@q...> wrote:
> Carroll I plan on being there if i can get my solar filter made, 
Shelley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciorg@s... [mailto:ciorg@s...]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:08 PM
> To: ASKC@y...
> Subject: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3
> 
> 
> This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
> at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
> observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give 
> a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.
> 
> The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar observing 
> sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our 
members
> have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include these 
in 
> the list.
> 
> We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
> up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
> on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.
> 
> Please let me know if you can be there.
> 
> Thanks
> Carroll Iorg
> 
> 
> 
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Carroll, I will be there too.

Darren J Kindberg
Secretary 
Heartland Humanists
http://heartland.humanists.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangers@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:54 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3
> 
> 
> Carroll I plan on being there if i can get my solar filter made, Shelley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ciorg@... [mailto:ciorg@...]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:08 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Volunteers for Solar Observing at Imax 3/3
> 
> 
> This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
> at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
> observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give 
> a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.
> 
> The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar observing 
> sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our members
> have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include these in 
> the list.
> 
> We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
> up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
> on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.
> 
> Please let me know if you can be there.
> 
> Thanks
> Carroll Iorg
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 

Tom,
I would like one for my 10" lx 200.
Tim Kristl


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Okay Tim, but you'll have to wait until I receive another shipment.
Probably in another week.  In the mean time, can you give me the outside
diameter of your 10" LX 200?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: TKristl100@... [mailto:TKristl100@...]
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film

I would like one for my 10" lx 200.
Tim Kristl

I think we should have a meeting of the people interested in the NEO project this Saturday after the general meeting. We need to discuss training, equipment, teams structure, staffing and scheduling.


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Tom,
the outside diameter of the 10" scope is 11 3/4".  I'm not surprised that you 
are out.  It seems like everyone wants some.  
thanks for the help for everyone.
Tim Kristl


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Carroll,

I can be there.

Joe

Carroll,

This is at the Zoo, right?   Can we get some free tickets for the movie?

I will be there with a 7" scope with solar filter.

Are we able to come into the theater the back way like we do for Astronomy
Days or do we need to come in thru the gates?

-Scott

ciorg@... wrote:

> This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
> at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
> observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give
> a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.
>
> The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar observing
> sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our members
> have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include these in
> the list.
>
> We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
> up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
> on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.
>
> Please let me know if you can be there.
>
> Thanks
> Carroll Iorg
>
>
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David I would be more for a before meeting meeting :) shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:06 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] NEO project


I think we should have a meeting of the people interested in the NEO project
this Saturday after the general meeting. We need to discuss training,
equipment, teams structure, staffing and scheduling.


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At 10:05 PM 2/22/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I think we should have a meeting of the people interested in the NEO 
>project this Saturday after the general meeting. We need to discuss 
>training, equipment, teams structure, staffing and scheduling.

I think that's a good idea, but I won't be able to be at either meeting 
this Saturday evening.

Roger

  I think that's a good idea, but I won't be able to be at either meeting 
  this Saturday evening.


  I'll let you know what we decided you should do ;-)

  I'll let you know what goes on. Hope Bev is doing better.



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http://www.buytelescopes.com/product_details.asp?pNumber=2473


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Tom,
Do you need time to announce this at the General Meeting?
I will have the sizes I would like to buy by then.
Kathy
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From: <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 3:44 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


> I received a roll of Baader AstroSolar Safety Film last week.  .
> At the ASKC board meeting, I mentioned that I would buy their largest 
> piece of film and resell it to ASKC members.  > 
> If you need some for your scope, binoculars, etc., let me know here. 
> First come, first serve.  I'll cut what you need and include a copy 
> of the instructions on making a cell.  If we run out of the material, 
> I'll order more, hopefully in time for the ASKC meeting this month.
> 
> Tom Martinez, ASKC Historian
> 

When do you guys head for South America? I have telescope parts now if you want to help me build a couple of 4.5" scopes before you go.


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Joe
We'll put you on the list.

Thanks
Carroll

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> Carroll,
> 
> I can be there.
> 
> Joe

Scott,
Yes, it's at the zoo.  We should have the same access through the
back as usual.  I don't know whether we will be able to get additional 
tickets or not, since they gave several away for the night that they 
invited us on very short notice, but I'll see what we can pull off.

We will set up at 10:00 a.m. and be there until about 2:00 p.m. or so.

Carroll


--- In ASKC@y..., Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:
> Carroll,
> 
> This is at the Zoo, right?   Can we get some free tickets for the 
movie?
> 
> I will be there with a 7" scope with solar filter.
> 
> Are we able to come into the theater the back way like we do for 
Astronomy
> Days or do we need to come in thru the gates?
> 
> -Scott
> 
> ciorg@s... wrote:
> 
> > This is a call for members to set up scopes for solar observing
> > at the IMAX on Saturday 3/3/01.  In conjunction with our solar
> > observing, we will be joined by a KU professor who will give
> > a program leading up to the afternoon showings of Solar Max.
> >
> > The professor will be giving visitors a net guide to solar 
observing
> > sites.  He has asked me to spread the word that if any of our 
members
> > have some favorite sites on the net, he would like to include 
these in
> > the list.
> >
> > We will start setting up at 10 a.m. at the same place we have set
> > up for the astronomy day exhibits the last few years,
> > on the patio adjacent to the IMAX lobby.
> >
> > Please let me know if you can be there.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Carroll Iorg
> >
> >
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Hi Folks,   Say I just got through reading the weekly news bulletin that
I get from Sky & Telescope. I really enjoy these brief news items each
week...and I wondered if perhaps there might be a club member or two who
does not know about this neat benefit of having e-mail?

Sorry to bore most of you, but we should make sure that the newbies out
there hear about these nifty things.  It's easy to subscribe, or to drop
out if you don't like it. Here are their instructions:

"In cooperation with the American Association of Amateur
Astronomers (http://www.corvus.com/), S&T's Weekly News Bulletin and
Sky at a Glance are available via electronic mailing list. For a free
subscription, send e-mail to join@... and put the word "join"
on the first line of the body of the message. To unsubscribe, send
e-mail to unjoin@... and put the word "unjoin" on the first
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either subscribing to or unsubscribing from the list, send a message
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Clear Skies! (Sometimes, please, huh? At least one weekend
night...please?)

Dave Hudgins

Yes Kathy, I will announce it briefly.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: kathy [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:35 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Baader AstroSolar Safety Film


Tom,
Do you need time to announce this at the General Meeting?
I will have the sizes I would like to buy by then.
Kathy
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Thanks for the update David. I'll get you changed in the e-mail directory.

Gary

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Subject: [ASKC] e-mail


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David:

Can you ask Larry R. to add me to the NasaGrant e-groups?

Thanks,

Jim
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your message forwarded to nasagrant group for Larry
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  David:

  Can you ask Larry R. to add me to the NasaGrant e-groups?

  Thanks,

  Jim
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I mentioned this to Nick a few days ago and to some others down at Powell last Sunday. We haven't changed the suggested donation of $2.00 for over 15 years. What would you folks think about increasing the suggested donation to $3.00 and giving the extra $1.00 to Louisburg schools. We wouldn't want to give it to the park because they would use it put up lights. If it went to the City of Louisburg's general fund it could still wind up as lights. If we could figure out how to get it to the school district it would go a long way towards improving our image not to mention the good it would do for the schools.

On another subject, if anyone talks to Nick, please tell him I went to Sam's and picked up a new stash of candy bars and will put them in the fridge next time I'm down there. 


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I'm with you on this David, but I wonder if we shouldn't just take the
proceeds, buy educational astronomy material and donate it to the school
instead. It would have the same impact and could be more higher profile if
given at the parade or something. Further, if a tag is attached that says:
Donated by ASKC, sometime a student who used it may turn out to be elected
to the city council.

Clear skies,
DJ Kindberg


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From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:12 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] donation structure


I mentioned this to Nick a few days ago and to some others down at Powell
last Sunday. We haven't changed the suggested donation of $2.00 for over 15
years. What would you folks think about increasing the suggested donation to
$3.00 and giving the extra $1.00 to Louisburg schools. We wouldn't want to
give it to the park because they would use it put up lights. If it went to
the City of Louisburg's general fund it could still wind up as lights. If we
could figure out how to get it to the school district it would go a long way
towards improving our image not to mention the good it would do for the
schools.

On another subject, if anyone talks to Nick, please tell him I went to Sam's
and picked up a new stash of candy bars and will put them in the fridge next
time I'm down there.


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I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so I plan to do it. 

I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. There will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who have signed up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one and disappoint a LOT of kids.


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You _do_ have us down for the 9th, don't you?


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Young 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:07 AM
Subject: [ASKC] School Science Night


I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so I plan to do it. 

I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. There will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who have signed up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one and disappoint a LOT of kids.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vic & Jen Winter, ICSTARS Inc. 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] School Science Night


  You _do_ have us down for the 9th, don't you?


  I didn't, but I do now.




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Is this at night, like 7:00 PM or so? I can help if you want me to, if
that's true. If not, I have to pass.

DJ Kindberg

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:08 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] School Science Night


I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so I plan
to do it.

I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. There
will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who have signed
up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one and disappoint a
LOT of kids.


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David, OK, I may be able to help on the March 9 Parkville (yike, a long way!) school. Call me when you can. 913-681-0992.
Dave

David Young wrote:

> I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so I plan to do it.
>
> I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. There will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who have signed up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one and disappoint a LOT of kids.
>
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>
>
>
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 Folks,
Regarding giving money to the Louisburg schools:

I agree with Darren that giving cash directly to the school district will not
give us much in return for our very hard earned and very meager supply of money.
If we *did* do something like this, I think buying the high school a small
telescope & solar filter (Tom?) and maybe a subscription to Astronomy magazine
for their library would be more beneficial. Or other ideas out there?

Dave

DJ Kindberg wrote:

> I'm with you on this David, but I wonder if we shouldn't just take the
> proceeds, buy educational astronomy material and donate it to the school
> instead. It would have the same impact and could be more higher profile if
> given at the parade or something. Further, if a tag is attached that says:
> Donated by ASKC, sometime a student who used it may turn out to be elected
> to the city council.
>
> Clear skies,
> DJ Kindberg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:12 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] donation structure
>
> I mentioned this to Nick a few days ago and to some others down at Powell
> last Sunday. We haven't changed the suggested donation of $2.00 for over 15
> years. What would you folks think about increasing the suggested donation to
> $3.00 and giving the extra $1.00 to Louisburg schools. We wouldn't want to
> give it to the park because they would use it put up lights. If it went to
> the City of Louisburg's general fund it could still wind up as lights. If we
> could figure out how to get it to the school district it would go a long way
> towards improving our image not to mention the good it would do for the
> schools.
>
> On another subject, if anyone talks to Nick, please tell him I went to Sam's
> and picked up a new stash of candy bars and will put them in the fridge next
> time I'm down there.
>
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DJ Kindberg 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:03 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] School Science Night


  Is this at night, like 7:00 PM or so? I can help if you want me to, if
  that's true. If not, I have to pass.


  Yes, it's in the evening but I think it's 6:30. I'll try to reach Bill tonight to confirm.



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Hi, fellow ASKC'ers!  I agree with David Hudgins' suggestion.  A 
subscription to Astronomy magazine could be a great benefit to the 
kids.  They'll receive up-to-date astro info and instruction and they 
can read and learn at their own pace.

Eliz


--- In ASKC@y..., David Hudgins <dhudgins@s...> wrote:
>  Folks,
> Regarding giving money to the Louisburg schools:
> 
> I agree with Darren that giving cash directly to the school 
district will not
> give us much in return for our very hard earned and very meager 
supply of money.
> If we *did* do something like this, I think buying the high school 
a small
> telescope & solar filter (Tom?) and maybe a subscription to 
Astronomy magazine
> for their library would be more beneficial. Or other ideas out 
there?
> 
> Dave
> 
> DJ Kindberg wrote:
> 
> > I'm with you on this David, but I wonder if we shouldn't just 
take the
> > proceeds, buy educational astronomy material and donate it to the 
school
> > instead. It would have the same impact and could be more higher 
profile if
> > given at the parade or something. Further, if a tag is attached 
that says:
> > Donated by ASKC, sometime a student who used it may turn out to 
be elected
> > to the city council.
> >
> > Clear skies,
> > DJ Kindberg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@k...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:12 PM
> > To: ASKC@y...
> > Subject: [ASKC] donation structure
> >
> > I mentioned this to Nick a few days ago and to some others down 
at Powell
> > last Sunday. We haven't changed the suggested donation of $2.00 
for over 15
> > years. What would you folks think about increasing the suggested 
donation to
> > $3.00 and giving the extra $1.00 to Louisburg schools. We 
wouldn't want to
> > give it to the park because they would use it put up lights. If 
it went to
> > the City of Louisburg's general fund it could still wind up as 
lights. If we
> > could figure out how to get it to the school district it would go 
a long way
> > towards improving our image not to mention the good it would do 
for the
> > schools.
> >
> > On another subject, if anyone talks to Nick, please tell him I 
went to Sam's
> > and picked up a new stash of candy bars and will put them in the 
fridge next
> > time I'm down there.
> >
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> >
> >
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  Hi, fellow ASKC'ers!  I agree with David Hudgins' suggestion.  A 
  subscription to Astronomy magazine could be a great benefit to the 
  kids.  They'll receive up-to-date astro info and instruction and they 
  can read and learn at their own pace.


  A good start. That should leave a few hundred dollars left over. Where do we put that?



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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so 
I plan to do it. 
> 
> I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. 
There will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who 
have signed up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one 
and disappoint a LOT of kids.

I told you, when you were at the shop that I would be able to do this 
one..
You have me down?
We are going to need directions....

The school gig tonight will be from 6:00 to 8:00. I'll be in the StarLab in the gym.


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Duh, forgot to tell you where it is.  Westwood school 1 block west of Rainbow on 50th street.


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> Dave,

Sorry I can't make it.  I already  volunteered to host the group that is reserving Powell friday night.  See ya at the Imax on Saturday

Good luck,

Joe


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I'm new to the ASKC club and am not sure of the club's protocol for
doing this so forgive me if I'm out of line.
According to March Sky&Telescope the shadow of Jupiter's moon Europa is
to cross the face of Jupiter on the evening of Friday, March 9,
beginning at 9:21pm cst and ending at 11:57.  Also on Saturday evening,
March 10, the shadow of Io crosses Jupiter beginning at 8:05 pm and
ending at 10:16 pm cst.   Would it be possible to have someone set up
the 30" scope to view either, or both, of these events?  I've seen one
shadow transit with my 8" and was impressed with that view.  

Bill
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  I'm new to the ASKC club and am not sure of the club's protocol 

  Hi Bill. One really good way to get answers is to ask questions ;-)

  I am the current scheduler for the observatory. Unfortunately, March 9 and 10 are already reserved by private groups. I notice in the RSCA handbook many of us order each year that there are three double shadow transits this month. Oddly enough each is on a Tuesday! Shadow transits are pretty common. The RSCA also has a list of all transits. If you don't have a copy I'll pick one out that is at a reasonable time and we'll reserve the observatory specifically for that purpose some night.


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Bill e-mail privately to tell me where you live......

If you are anywhere nearby me here in Raymore. You can come one over to my backyard and we will view the transit from here.  Light pollution has little effect on planetary work.  We can spend as much or as little time observing as you want.  My scope will probably deliver better views than the 30" anyway.... (maybe).

-Scott

David Young wrote:

>   I'm new to the ASKC club and am not sure of the club's protocol
>
>   Hi Bill. One really good way to get answers is to ask questions ;-)
>
>   I am the current scheduler for the observatory. Unfortunately, March 9 and 10 are already reserved by private groups. I notice in the RSCA handbook many of us order each year that there are three double shadow transits this month. Oddly enough each is on a Tuesday! Shadow transits are pretty common. The RSCA also has a list of all transits. If you don't have a copy I'll pick one out that is at a reasonable time and we'll reserve the observatory specifically for that purpose some night.
>
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Anyone interested in trying tonight. I have an early evening diner party but could spend a few hours later. I have to be wide awake and alert at 7:00 AM so I can't stay late but I can operate the scope for someone who wants to try to image for a while.


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The AIC and 30 Sky and camera computers are now protected with UPS units. Nick held a training session Sunday afternoon for a small group. We fooled around later and looked at Venus, Jupiter and Saturn.

Does any one know where the paracor is?


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David -- I will help out -- give me the details...  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:08 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] School Science Night


I didn't get any volunteers for Bill Tomson's school for March 1 so I plan
to do it.

I do need help on March 9 at a school north of Parkville, Missouri. There
will be 300 to 400 kids so we need more than the two people who have signed
up so far. Come on people! Don't make me cancel this one and disappoint a
LOT of kids.


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Hello, all!   I just figured out I won't be around for our team's night at
Powell on May 19th.  Anyone want to switch nights with me?

I usually do the program (this time on Glorious Galaxies) but will ask TS
Pennington, who is on my team, to do it for me.  So you just have to be
there....

Thanks!!

Jackie


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melissa Kirk 
  To: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:37 PM
  Subject: [NASAGRANT] Monday night


  Intellicast is calling for clear skies on Monday night 3/5. Let's get a group together at Powell Observatory to do imaging with the 30 inch on Monday night.

  Melissa Kirk

  I should be down before dark in time to shoot a flat field. Anyone else coming down?

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I'd like to come down to learn how to be a T.O. (telescope operator). Will Nick be there to train me, or can anyone do it?

Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com <NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:52 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: [NASAGRANT] Monday night



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melissa Kirk 
  To: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:37 PM
  Subject: [NASAGRANT] Monday night


  Intellicast is calling for clear skies on Monday night 3/5. Let's get a group together at Powell Observatory to do imaging with the 30 inch on Monday night.

  Melissa Kirk

  I should be down before dark in time to shoot a flat field. Anyone else coming down?

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David Young may be able to train you to become a telescope operator. We'd love to have you there. I'll get there between 8 and 9 p.m. I know how to operate the telescope and can also help you.

Melissa Kirk
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Ketchum 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ; NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: [NASAGRANT] Monday night


  I'd like to come down to learn how to be a T.O. (telescope operator). Will Nick be there to train me, or can anyone do it?

  Jim



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OK, who are "certified" 30" telescope operators now?  David Young, 
Melissa Kirk, David Hudgins, Richard Frederick, Dick Trentman, Darren 
Kindberg,...   anyone else?

-Scott

--- In ASKC@y..., "Melissa Kirk" <makirk37@h...> wrote:
> David Young may be able to train you to become a telescope operator. 
We'd love to have you there. I'll get there between 8 and 9 p.m. I 
know how to operate the telescope and can also help you.
> 
> Melissa Kirk
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jim Ketchum 
>   To: ASKC@y... ; NASAGRANT@y... 
>   Cc: ASKC@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:21 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: [NASAGRANT] Monday night
> 
> 
>   I'd like to come down to learn how to be a T.O. (telescope 
operator). Will Nick be there to train me, or can anyone do it?
> 
>   Jim
> 
> 
> 
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David,
I will try to come Friday night.  Let me know where.  Did I see 6:00pm start? 
 Is that start or setup time?  
Tim Kristl


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Board meeting is Thursday at 7:00
Let me know if there is something you need added to the agenda.
I am having some problems with e-mail, but hopefully will be up and 
running soon.
Kathy 

Joe, 

Powell is reserved for Friday night for a scout group. The lady indicated she had talked to you about doing the program for them rain or shine. Please confirm. 

If you want help, David Brackey and Denis Budd are the scheduled keyholders. I will be at Park Hill School unless it's clouded out


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The Friday star party is at English Landing School

I20 to 45. West to 4 lights to Clam Drive.  Telescopes to be up and running at 7:00.

So far the following people have indicated they will be there with scopes. Remember step stools.

D .J. Kindberg
Elizabeth Brown
Rob Esson
Vic and Jen Winter
D. Young

WE COULD USE SOME MORE SINCE WE ARE EXPECTING 300 TO 400 KIDS


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Powell is reserved for March 8, 9, 10, 11, and 16

Powell was reserved months ago for March 23 by Tim Landreth. This is the same night picked for the Messier Marathon so please plan to minimize interference until Tim's group is finished.

If you plan on booking special events like the Marathon or a member night, please let me know as far in advance as possible so I can avoid conflicts.


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Scott Kranz wrote:
> 
> Bill e-mail privately to tell me where you live......
> 
> If you are anywhere nearby me here in Raymore. You can come one over to my backyard and we will view the transit from here.  Light pollution has little effect on planetary work.  We can spend as much or as little time observing as you want.  My scope will probably deliver better views than the 30" anyway.... (maybe).
> 
> -Scott

Thanks for the offer Scott. I live in Olathe, and I think I'll take my
scope down to Louisburg and set up on the ball field parking lot for a
while. I need to practice using it to locate some of the Messier objects
for later this month.
Bill

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Rita and I will not be there.  We have a one time class to attend.

Thanks,

Joe



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David

I would like to reserve Sunday May 27th.

Thanks,

Joe

David

It is still a go for friday night.  I think we'll be okay for help.  But if there is someone that wants to come down,  by all means do so.  There will also be some
club members in the Troop that will be coming down.  Have a good time in Parrrkville :)

Joe

>
>
>
>


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  David

  It is still a go for friday night.  I think we'll be okay for help.  But if there is someone that wants to come down,  by all means do so.  There will also be some
  club members in the Troop that will be coming down.  Have a good time in Parrrkville :)



  I have a group of 8th graders beging to come down Friday night at 9:00. What do you think? Would the scout group be thined out enough for the second group to get in? Your call.



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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> The Friday star party is at English Landing School
> 
> I20 to 45. West to 4 lights to Clam Drive.  Telescopes to be up and 
running at 7:00.
> D .J. Kindberg
> Elizabeth Brown
> Rob Esson
> Vic and Jen Winter
> D. Young
> WE COULD USE SOME MORE SINCE WE ARE EXPECTING 300 TO 400 KIDS

Shouldn't that be I-29? I-20 is in the south and runs from west Texas 
to North Carolina! People in the west end of the city can also catch 
I-435 North to 45 and then go east.
AND, I will be there also...

We had a GREAT night at English Landing School last night. The school put together a very nice science night and we were a significant part of their program.  

Thanks to Elizabeth Brown, D J Kindberg, Vic and Jen Winter, Tim Kristal, Rob Esson, Walt Robinson, and Jackie Beicher for sharing there telescopes with hundreds of enthusiastic children and parents.




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Folks, I noticed that Natural Wonders at Oak Park Mall is going out of
business - they have their NexStar scopes on sale. Many are just 10%
off. But I noticed an exceptional buy on a 5" SCT Nextstar for $767...I
paid $1199 for mine! Also a good buy on the  maksutov 4" Nextstar...but
I've forgotten the price. All their Meade accesories are 30% off. But
they only had a few eyepieces, 6 and 9mm plosels ...but lots of
T-adapters, LPR filters. moon filters, prism diagonals. Just in case you
have any interest. Dave

Thanks for taking the time to forward this information David.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:18 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] Telescope sale at Natural Wonders


Folks, I noticed that Natural Wonders at Oak Park Mall is going out of
business - they have their NexStar scopes on sale. Many are just 10%
off. But I noticed an exceptional buy on a 5" SCT Nextstar for $767...I
paid $1199 for mine! Also a good buy on the  maksutov 4" Nextstar...but
I've forgotten the price. All their Meade accesories are 30% off. But
they only had a few eyepieces, 6 and 9mm plosels ...but lots of
T-adapters, LPR filters. moon filters, prism diagonals. Just in case you
have any interest. Dave





 

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I would like to use the 30 tonight if available for NASA work.   Anyone
interested to meet with me about 9pm Monday.      Dick ?T



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Tonight Scott and I were supposed to attend the monthly Park Board meeting in Louisburg, but I'm feeling very sick right now and I don't know if I can make it.  Scott is home with the flu, so he won't go either.  

I know it's short notice, but I didn't expect to feel this bad.  Can anyone go to the meeting in our place tonight?  It's at 6:30pm at the town hall (the old highschool building).

Sorry and thank you in advance!

Gina


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Yes, as per last Saturday's meeting, I am already planning to be there. You can go to the files section of the NASAGRANT yahoogroup to get a log of last Saturday's chat session. 

Melissa Kirk
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: dtrent 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Star Party


  I would like to use the 30 tonight if available for NASA work.   Anyone
  interested to meet with me about 9pm Monday.      Dick ?T



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Dick, I'd like to come if I can I get "checked out" on TO functions?
Dave

dtrent wrote:

> I would like to use the 30 tonight if available for NASA work.   Anyone
> interested to meet with me about 9pm Monday.      Dick ?T
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I am pleased to announce the new ASKC website, approved by your board 
of directors at this month's board meeting.
The new site is located at:

www.askconline.org

Please change your bookmarks accordingly, and pass the word to others 
you may know that have links to our site. The sound.net site will
have a "we have moved" page up within the next several days. It will
remain there for the next 30-60 days, and then that account will be 
cancelled. This new site will allow us plenty of room to grow, and 
added features will be coming in the next several weeks.

I would like to thank Vic and Jen for providing us the webspace, and 
technical support that I sometimes need :) We have many possibilities 
in making this a GREAT site.

I am AGAIN soliciting articles, pictures, etc from YOU, since this is 
YOUR website, not mine. I can add all kinds of frills and features, 
but I need material to work with. You can either email me your 
submissions, or give them to me on a floppy/cd at the meetings.

Rob Robinson
ASKC webmaster

Great!
That was fast work Walt. I like the www.askconline.org
I may just be able to remember it :)
I sent a message on to the Astronomical League Webmaster Bert Stevens to
update the link there.
I'm looking forward to the future changes,
Maybe we have some pictures around here....
Kathy
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 6:18 PM
Subject: [ASKC] New ASKC Web Site


> I am pleased to announce the new ASKC website, approved by your board
> of directors at this month's board meeting.
> The new site is located at:
>
> www.askconline.org
>
> Please change your bookmarks accordingly, and pass the word to others
> you may know that have links to our site. The sound.net site will
> have a "we have moved" page up within the next several days. It will
> remain there for the next 30-60 days, and then that account will be
> cancelled. This new site will allow us plenty of room to grow, and
> added features will be coming in the next several weeks.
>
> I would like to thank Vic and Jen for providing us the webspace, and
> technical support that I sometimes need :) We have many possibilities
> in making this a GREAT site.
>
> I am AGAIN soliciting articles, pictures, etc from YOU, since this is
> YOUR website, not mine. I can add all kinds of frills and features,
> but I need material to work with. You can either email me your
> submissions, or give them to me on a floppy/cd at the meetings.
>
> Rob Robinson
> ASKC webmaster
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For those of you who weren't at the board meeting--
We are still discussing obtaining a dark sky site for ASKC observing.
This is a bit of a summary of what I am hearing from various people actively
looking.
(This is my view, and not the official board position or the committee's or
any such.)

If we buy land, it may make sense to buy at least 40 acres.
In Missouri, at least, there are benefits to owning that much land as it can
be classed as a farm. That allows certain activities without obtaining a
permit.
Also, it is not easy to get a smaller chunk of land in farming territory. We
are not talking readily available building lots here.
When we talk that size acreage, the costs may sound prohibitive at first.
Upwards of $1,000 per acre to $2,000 or much more depending on location and
land values. So, that 40-80 acre plot may easily run $50,000-$100,000. Take
a deep breath. Now another. Keep breathing. Again.
If most of the land is worthwhile to farm, it could be leased to farmers for
at least some cost recovery, or a good chunk of the payments. And, we are a
big club with a lot of good ideas on fundraising and ways to do this right,
if this is the way we go.

Anyway, Shelley and the dark sky site committee are continuing to do the
research and searching.  They will have updates in the future.

At this point, I'm just carefully breathing.
Kathy Machin

I attended the Louisburg park board meeting on 3/12/2001. In addition to the park board, David Burton and Dennis Bowman attended. The board voted to have Bob Bazin, park board member, oversee the construction of the new soccer fields in Lewis Young Park. Construction of these new fields is to take place in the June-July time frame. 

David Burton manages scheduling of the soccer fields. He told me games will be scheduled to start at 1 p.m., 3 p.m., and 5 p.m. He said new soccer fields will be lit only during the first 5 p.m. game after the beginning of daylight savings time.

I asked Ted Hayden, City Administrator, said there are still no plans to have someone from KCP&L give a talk about lighting to the City of Louisburg. I asked Ted for the names of people at KCP&L to contact about lighting. He gave me the names David Bergman and Woody Woodard. Woody is the liaison between Louisburg and KCP&L. 

The board talked about plans to put dugouts by some of the baseball diamonds. Dennis was concerned that addition of these dugouts would decrease the area of the diamonds, making them not meet regulations for games played by adults. The board also plans to construct new baseball diamonds. The park board will meet next Sunday morning at 8 a.m. at Timber Lake to measure the areas of the diamonds. Dennis said he constructed the baseball diamonds, and he talked about wanting to have them lit. I think our dark sky committee should establish contact with these KCP&L employees and provide consultation on lighting of the baseball diamonds and new soccer fields. Someone from the ASKC may want to meet with the park board on Sunday morning in case they also talk about lighting of baseball diamonds.

I told everyone there about the presence of our NEO abstract on NASA's spacescience website. Steve Town(es?) asked for the URL. I didn't know it, but I told them to go to the spacescience.nasa.gov website and follow the links to research opportunities, closed FY2000, and NEO observations. I told them our organization's proposal got funded along with those of professional research observatories, such as McDonald and LONEOS, and that our abstract mentions the city of Louisburg, Kansas. I gave a short explanation of our followup research. I showed Cindy Kelley, a city employee who takes the minutes of the park board meetings, a copy of the abstracts from the spacescience.nasa.gov website. She was happy about our research.

Melissa Kirk
makirk37@...



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Melissa,  great job!!  Thank you for the attending the meeting and for the
great report!
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Melissa Kirk [mailto:makirk37@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 12:57 AM
  To: Larry Robinson; ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Park board meeting


  I attended the Louisburg park board meeting on 3/12/2001. In addition to
the park board, David Burton and Dennis Bowman attended. The board voted to
have Bob Bazin, park board member, oversee the construction of the new
soccer fields in Lewis Young Park. Construction of these new fields is to
take place in the June-July time frame.

  David Burton manages scheduling of the soccer fields. He told me games
will be scheduled to start at 1 p.m., 3 p.m., and 5 p.m. He said new soccer
fields will be lit only during the first 5 p.m. game after the beginning of
daylight savings time.

  I asked Ted Hayden, City Administrator, said there are still no plans to
have someone from KCP&L give a talk about lighting to the City of Louisburg.
I asked Ted for the names of people at KCP&L to contact about lighting. He
gave me the names David Bergman and Woody Woodard. Woody is the liaison
between Louisburg and KCP&L.

  The board talked about plans to put dugouts by some of the baseball
diamonds. Dennis was concerned that addition of these dugouts would decrease
the area of the diamonds, making them not meet regulations for games played
by adults. The board also plans to construct new baseball diamonds. The park
board will meet next Sunday morning at 8 a.m. at Timber Lake to measure the
areas of the diamonds. Dennis said he constructed the baseball diamonds, and
he talked about wanting to have them lit. I think our dark sky committee
should establish contact with these KCP&L employees and provide consultation
on lighting of the baseball diamonds and new soccer fields. Someone from the
ASKC may want to meet with the park board on Sunday morning in case they
also talk about lighting of baseball diamonds.

  I told everyone there about the presence of our NEO abstract on NASA's
spacescience website. Steve Town(es?) asked for the URL. I didn't know it,
but I told them to go to the spacescience.nasa.gov website and follow the
links to research opportunities, closed FY2000, and NEO observations. I told
them our organization's proposal got funded along with those of professional
research observatories, such as McDonald and LONEOS, and that our abstract
mentions the city of Louisburg, Kansas. I gave a short explanation of our
followup research. I showed Cindy Kelley, a city employee who takes the
minutes of the park board meetings, a copy of the abstracts from the
spacescience.nasa.gov website. She was happy about our research.

  Melissa Kirk
  makirk37@...



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Hi all,

My computer is working for now.  Purchasing land in that size can also pay for
itself.  Since we are a 510(3)(c), we do not pay personal property tax, at least
in Jackson County.  It maybe similar in other counties.  If we do purchase a
larger area, 40 is nice,  the remaining area that isn't used on a regular basis
can be hayed out.  I have some friends up North near Plattsburg that use the
money from haying to pay for taxes on the land: refer to previous statement.  We
also might investigate the internet for grants that we may apply for from
private individual and companyies.  I saw a tidbit that there is 1.2 bill. out
there.  I have been looking for land in the 80A size for Rita and I to move to
for the past year and a half.  They have ranged in price from 600 to 1500$/A.
We should also be mindful of utilities.  If we go the way of Scopeville,
utilities near would be good.  It's not cheap to bing it in.

Just some thoughts,

Joe

To clarify a bit--
The proposed dark sky site has nothing to do with Powell Observatory in
Louisburg. There is no intent to move that facility or scope.
This is a different concept.
The idea is to have a place where any ASKC member can go with his or her
personal scope and have a safe dark location to observe, camp out overnight
if desired, and not need permission from anyone.
Sometimes I forget that a little additional explanation may be needed.
Sorry,
Kathy

I was just contacted by the KC Star. They are changing the existing
Startouch phone system to an automated voice recognition one called
"TellMe", on April 9th. The phone number will also be changing to
1-800-555-TELL .  Our Astronomy #5400 number will remain the same.

If any Club member is planning to print ASKC Club info, they will want  to
change to this new information.   If it's all printed already for the
year... uhhhhhh...?

rett

Hi all,

As some of you know, my wife, Bev, has been in the hospital for two
weeks.  This is an update

Initial diagnosis was renal failure -- later we found out it was caused by
multiple myeloma, which also started compressing the spinal cord, so she
was totally paralyzed from the waist down. Radiation treatments were
started immediately and some sensations have returned, but it's too early
to tell if she'll be able to walk again. Today, she was able to move one of
her feet!

One more week of radiation treatments, then we start
chemotherapy.  Meanwhile she is also receiving hemodialysis every day
to make up for the non-functioning kidneys (they may recover after the
chemotherapy).

At the moment. she has more flowers than space to put them,
but cards would be welcome.  Since she may be moving to another
hospital, please send them to her at our home:

	Bev Gruenke
	7022 Long Avenue
	Shawnee  KS  66216-2659

Lastly, but most importantly, we ask for your prayers for a full recovery.

Thanks for your concern and support.

Roger

Roger, So sorry to here this . Tell to hang in there and we will be praying
for her. Hope everything works out. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gruenke [mailto:rgruenke@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 7:36 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Beverly


Hi all,

As some of you know, my wife, Bev, has been in the hospital for two
weeks.  This is an update

Initial diagnosis was renal failure -- later we found out it was caused by
multiple myeloma, which also started compressing the spinal cord, so she
was totally paralyzed from the waist down. Radiation treatments were
started immediately and some sensations have returned, but it's too early
to tell if she'll be able to walk again. Today, she was able to move one of
her feet!

One more week of radiation treatments, then we start
chemotherapy.  Meanwhile she is also receiving hemodialysis every day
to make up for the non-functioning kidneys (they may recover after the
chemotherapy).

At the moment. she has more flowers than space to put them,
but cards would be welcome.  Since she may be moving to another
hospital, please send them to her at our home:

	Bev Gruenke
	7022 Long Avenue
	Shawnee  KS  66216-2659

Lastly, but most importantly, we ask for your prayers for a full recovery.

Thanks for your concern and support.

Roger







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All great thoughts. Given the size of our organization and the 
importance of getting our own dark-sky site that we control, I don't 
think $40,000 is an outrageous amount -- especially if there are tax 
advantages, as well as income possibilities. Look how quickly we 
raised a substantial amount to buy that CCD camera for Powell; just a 
few weeks, as I recall.

This is doable.

Rich Hathaway

--- In ASKC@y..., Joe & Rita Wright <bsa87joe@s...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My computer is working for now.  Purchasing land in that size can 
also pay for
> itself.  Since we are a 510(3)(c), we do not pay personal property 
tax, at least
> in Jackson County.  It maybe similar in other counties.  If we do 
purchase a
> larger area, 40 is nice,  the remaining area that isn't used on a 
regular basis
> can be hayed out.  I have some friends up North near Plattsburg 
that use the
> money from haying to pay for taxes on the land: refer to previous 
statement.  We
> also might investigate the internet for grants that we may apply 
for from
> private individual and companyies.  I saw a tidbit that there is 
1.2 bill. out
> there.  I have been looking for land in the 80A size for Rita and I 
to move to
> for the past year and a half.  They have ranged in price from 600 
to 1500$/A.
> We should also be mindful of utilities.  If we go the way of 
Scopeville,
> utilities near would be good.  It's not cheap to bing it in.
> 
> Just some thoughts,
> 
> Joe

Roger & Bev, 

Sure hope all goes as well as it can, (and prayers are winging their way
up, now!)

Roger,

I wish the best for you and Beverly!  Hang in there.  Our thoughts are with you.

Gina


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Since I know that Susan wouldn't know how to post a note here, I thought I
would let the gang know that David Anschutz is in the hospital also.  A
cold/infection moved to his esophogus and began to swell his airway shut.
It is, certainly not as serious as Bev's condition, (we're all thinking of
you two, Roger) Just scarry.

Anyway....  he'll be at  Lee's Summit Hospital for a while.

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Roger, Bev and Family,


Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you.  If we can be of  help, please
let us know.

Joe & Rita

Does anyone have the for certain revised dates for Powell Botanical
GardenStar-Light Star-Bright programs?
Nick said the dates were revised, and I am not certain that I have the
correct version.
Kathy

--- In ASKC@y..., "kathy" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
> Does anyone have the for certain revised dates for Powell Botanical
> GardenStar-Light Star-Bright programs?
> Nick said the dates were revised, and I am not certain that I have 
the
> correct version.

If any one does have the correct version, please email me the changes 
so I can correct it on the web pages.
Thanks!

Rob Robinson
Webmaster

I have a group of girl scouts at Powell tonight if anyone wants to help me show them the underside of a cloud bank.

DYoung


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Larry got a packet from the folks that own the 80 acres.  He has contacted Shelly and they along with Tom Martinez are suppose to go look at it tomarrow.  More to follow



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From: kathy
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:18 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Jackie Beucher; Carroll Iorg; Randy Thompson; Gil Machin; Vic Winter; Ron Abbott; Joe Alburty; Mike Cofer; Gina Fedon; Larry & Sharon Goode; Shelley & Kevin Granger; David Hudgins; Tom Martinez; Denise Moser; Gary Pittman; Nick Reuss; Joe & Rita Wright; Scott Kranz; David Young; Amy Hahn
Subject: [ASKC] dark sky land


For those of you who weren't at the board meeting--
We are still discussing obtaining a dark sky site for ASKC observing.
This is a bit of a summary of what I am hearing from various people actively
looking.
(This is my view, and not the official board position or the committee's or
any such.)

If we buy land, it may make sense to buy at least 40 acres.
In Missouri, at least, there are benefits to owning that much land as it can
be classed as a farm. That allows certain activities without obtaining a
permit.
Also, it is not easy to get a smaller chunk of land in farming territory. We
are not talking readily available building lots here.
When we talk that size acreage, the costs may sound prohibitive at first.
Upwards of $1,000 per acre to $2,000 or much more depending on location and
land values. So, that 40-80 acre plot may easily run $50,000-$100,000. Take
a deep breath. Now another. Keep breathing. Again.
If most of the land is worthwhile to farm, it could be leased to farmers for
at least some cost recovery, or a good chunk of the payments. And, we are a
big club with a lot of good ideas on fundraising and ways to do this right,
if this is the way we go.

Anyway, Shelley and the dark sky site committee are continuing to do the
research and searching.  They will have updates in the future.

At this point, I'm just carefully breathing.
Kathy Machin









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Tonight was specifically reserved for NEO work on the 30".

Does anyone plan to go down. We specifically need someone familiar with the astrometric reduction and reporting process.

Please reply to David Young at 913-631-8413 or to the NASAgrant group. I will check it periodically today to see if we have enough interest. 

I plan to go down only if there are one or two others going down. I can run the camera telescope as TO and operate the imaging computer including obtaining the NEO target list and blinking the images. I can not yet do the reductions and reporting.

Please let me know if you plan to go down to Powell tonight.


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Rob:     There were two schedule changes at Powell
Gardens. May 18th was changed to May 25th-(large
dinner dedication). August 17th was changed to August
24th-Butterfly festival. Hope this helps; later
Bill--- webmaster@... wrote:
> --- In ASKC@y..., "kathy" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
> > Does anyone have the for certain revised dates for
> Powell Botanical
> > GardenStar-Light Star-Bright programs?
> > Nick said the dates were revised, and I am not
> certain that I have 
> the
> > correct version.
> 
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If you have Real Player on your computer, check out this interesting program
about Light Pollution. You can find the link and page at
http://www.fvas.net/blinded.html
Kathy

Hey all!

Does anyone know of a web page that will give you alt-az of 
geosynchronous satellites from an inputed location?

Thanks!

--- In ASKC@y..., skranz@w... wrote:
> Hey all!
> 
> Does anyone know of a web page that will give you alt-az of 
> geosynchronous satellites from an inputed location?
> 
> Thanks!

Hi Scott,

Mike McCants has a program named HighFly available at his web site:
http://users2.ev1.net/~mmccants/programs/index.html

I would get the elements from his geo.zip file at:
http://users2.ev1.net/~mmccants/programs/index.html

The configuration file asks for some basic information, but once it's 
set up the program should give you what you want. Let me know if 
you need help setting it up. Not as easy as Heaven's Above, but Mike 
has some satellites listed in his files that we know aren't really 
there... ;-)

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick

Good program.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Carroll Iorg

On 19 Mar 2001 10:16:06 -0000, you wrote:

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>   Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:15:12 -0600
>   From: "kathy" <kmachin@...>
>Subject: light pollution- Real Player link
>
>If you have Real Player on your computer, check out this interesting program
>about Light Pollution. You can find the link and page at
>http://www.fvas.net/blinded.html
>Kathy

I have uploaded a 922K PDF file concerning the property the Land Search
committee looked at last Saturday.  You will need a file called Acrobat to
read it.  If you don't have it, you can get it free at Adobe.com

Tom

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Kathy, and others,

I dug out our old PC last night.  Re-attached a printer to it, loaded 
the Deep Space program and printed a bunch of years worth of Moon 
phase calendars.

I'll bring a bunch along to the meeting Saturday night.

I'm going to contact David Chandler to see if he has ever upgraded his 
package to a newer platform.  Last time I checked, he was still 
running his on a 486, Windows 95 machine.

-scott

I don't know how many of you have seen them already, so I pulled the MPC
rankings for asteroids observations for 2000.  Powell was ranked 54th out of
285.  Pretty good! :-)

Here they go:

Rank	COD	Year	Tot

1	704	2000	1522863
2	699	2000	281721
3	691	2000	60958
4	608	2000	53123
5	703	2000	37511
6	106	2000	10652
7	120	2000	8293
8	739	2000	6690
9	46	2000	5619
10	557	2000	4564
11	300	2000	4110
12	327	2000	3907
13	49	2000	3112
14	118	2000	2450
15	151	2000	2185
16	413	2000	1994
17	919	2000	1778
18	610	2000	1754
19	684	2000	1679
20	734	2000	1541
21	808	2000	1533
22	360	2000	1477
23	428	2000	1448
24	695	2000	1400
25	732	2000	1310
26	621	2000	1255
27	411	2000	1219
28	113	2000	1217
29	807	2000	1179
30	860	2000	1168
31	104	2000	1151
32	12	2000	1114
33	670	2000	1030
34	402	2000	990
35	888	2000	986
36	568	2000	886
37	916	2000	851
38	688	2000	842
39	143	2000	837
40	678	2000	817
41	711	2000	796
42	858	2000	714
43	611	2000	678
44	422	2000	662
45	726	2000	657
46	843	2000	646
47	344	2000	598
48	540	2000	591
49	587	2000	562
50	642	2000	515
51	71	2000	496
52	857	2000	491
53	127	2000	488
54	649	2000	484
55	349	2000	482
56	658	2000	481
57	628	2000	463
58	918	2000	448
59	474	2000	444
60	595	2000	444
61	850	2000	428
62	461	2000	415
63	423	2000	410
64	117	2000	408
65	849	2000	408
66	853	2000	376
67	673	2000	373
68	682	2000	367
69	701	2000	328
70	651	2000	301
71	95	2000	292
72	911	2000	282
73	746	2000	267
74	900	2000	260
75	958	2000	254
76	108	2000	241
77	294	2000	235
78	467	2000	233
79	561	2000	224
80	946	2000	223
81	620	2000	221
82	163	2000	220
83	923	2000	219
84	725	2000	218
85	696	2000	207
86	159	2000	206
87	931	2000	206
88	322	2000	199
89	720	2000	196
90	627	2000	195
91	750	2000	186
92	693	2000	183
93	636	2000	180
94	735	2000	180
95	183	2000	168
96	747	2000	165
97	809	2000	163
98	865	2000	163
99	121	2000	159
100	652	2000	154
101	673	2000	154
102	903	2000	154
103	715	2000	152
104	727	2000	152
105	596	2000	150
106	716	2000	148
107	819	2000	146
108	859	2000	145
109	683	2000	140
110	355	2000	136
111	145	2000	135
112	639	2000	135
113	837	2000	133
114	185	2000	121
115	718	2000	120
116	952	2000	120
117	184	2000	119
118	170	2000	114
119	504	2000	108
120	552	2000	107
121	950	2000	106
122	345	2000	104
123	517	2000	104
124	643	2000	104
125	157	2000	102
126	376	2000	101
127	350	2000	100
128	433	2000	100
129	886	2000	98
130	854	2000	96
131	951	2000	95
132	740	2000	94
133	169	2000	92
134	912	2000	92
135	130	2000	90
136	615	2000	85
137	635	2000	83
138	944	2000	78
139	697	2000	77
140	848	2000	75
141	348	2000	73
142	947	2000	70
143	681	2000	69
144	165	2000	67
145	941	2000	67
146	713	2000	66
147	967	2000	66
148	247	2000	64
149	867	2000	64
150	762	2000	62
151	731	2000	60
152	196	2000	59
153	914	2000	59
154	706	2000	58
155	133	2000	55
156	138	2000	52
157	757	2000	52
158	162	2000	50
159	924	2000	50
160	544	2000	49
161	179	2000	47
162	846	2000	47
163	182	2000	46
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Tom,

I didn't notice a price for the property..?

Joe

Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate 
in the Messier Marathon?

Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.

Scott I am planning on being there. So is Amy but not until late. Shelley
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To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate 
in the Messier Marathon?

Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.







 

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Scott - if clear or even slightly clear, I'll be there! : ^ )   Dave

skranz@... wrote:

> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
>
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.
>
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Scott,
 I plan on going.

Dave Probert

--- In ASKC@y..., skranz@w... wrote:
> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
>
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.

Kathy and I will be there.
                                                        Gil
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Subject: [ASKC] Messier Marathon


: Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
: in the Messier Marathon?
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:55 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Messier Marathon


  >Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate 
  >in the Messier Marathon?

  >Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.

  I plan to be there but I do not Marathon. I wander around and look through serious observers telescopes because I don't want to take the time to set one up myself.   (snicker)

  Acutally, I thought we might do some play time imaging with the 12" or 30" and let folks have the images on floppy or print them out. 

  We might also do some serious imaging with either scope depending on what members want to do. It looks like we might actually get a good night.
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Weather willing, I'll be there.

Joe

skranz@... wrote:

> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
>
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.
>
>
>
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skranz@... wrote:
> 
> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
> 
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.
> 
Yes, but don't know how much participation. Practice nights have either
been cloudy or light polluted.
Bill All

Scott

I am planning on being there.

Dave Brockway
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Messier Marathon


> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
>
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.
>
>
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Scott,
I haven't checked weather predictions, but I will be there unless it is
pouring down rain.
Kathy
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Messier Marathon


> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to participate
> in the Messier Marathon?
>
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Saturday night general meeting will be busy again.
So far:
educational "minute"--10minutes
tool time-- 10 minutes
New Web site info-- 5 minutes
June Camp-out-- 5 minutes
That leaves 15 minutes to:
Great guests, give treasurer's report, Membership report, Messier marathon
summary, introduce member survey, give observing awards, MPP report,
observatory report, last minute announcements.
It is virtually certain that we will move some of this to after the main
program. I intend to have break at 7:45 and start the program promptly at
8:00. Not like the last two meetings, where we started the speaker too late.
If anyone has anything else at all to announce let me know soon so we can
schedule things appropriately.
Kathy

I will have 1 award to give out.

scott

kathy wrote:
> 
> Saturday night general meeting will be busy again.
> So far:
> educational "minute"--10minutes
> tool time-- 10 minutes
> New Web site info-- 5 minutes
> June Camp-out-- 5 minutes
> That leaves 15 minutes to:
> Great guests, give treasurer's report, Membership report, Messier marathon
> summary, introduce member survey, give observing awards, MPP report,
> observatory report, last minute announcements.
> It is virtually certain that we will move some of this to after the main
> program. I intend to have break at 7:45 and start the program promptly at
> 8:00. Not like the last two meetings, where we started the speaker too late.
> If anyone has anything else at all to announce let me know soon so we can
> schedule things appropriately.
> Kathy
> 
> 
> 
> 
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-Any hints as to what the program will be, Saturday night? Just 
curious.

Jim



-- In ASKC@y..., "kathy" <kmachin@k...> wrote:
> Saturday night general meeting will be busy again.
> So far:
> educational "minute"--10minutes
> tool time-- 10 minutes
> New Web site info-- 5 minutes
> June Camp-out-- 5 minutes
> That leaves 15 minutes to:
> Great guests, give treasurer's report, Membership report, Messier 
marathon
> summary, introduce member survey, give observing awards, MPP report,
> observatory report, last minute announcements.
> It is virtually certain that we will move some of this to after the 
main
> program. I intend to have break at 7:45 and start the program 
promptly at
> 8:00. Not like the last two meetings, where we started the speaker 
too late.
> If anyone has anything else at all to announce let me know soon so 
we can
> schedule things appropriately.
> Kathy

-
I'll be there, weather permitting.

Jim

-- In ASKC@y..., skranz@w... wrote:
> Is anyone planning on going out to Powell friday night to 
participate 
> in the Messier Marathon?
> 
> Just wondering if anyone is planning on showing up.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:04 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: General meeting agenda


  -Any hints as to what the program will be, Saturday night? Just 
  curious.


  Dr. Keith Ashman will speak on the search for extra solar planets



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I'll definitely be there. If Friday is cloudy, I'm thinking about doing it on 
Saturday or Sunday nights if they are clear. Saturday is pretty tough because 
it's the general meeting, but a clear sky would be pretty tempting if Friday 
is clouded out.

Fiske

PS: I know Chuck Capen definitely plans to do the Marathon Friday night, and 
Max Ray told me that he plans to go. I expect a pretty good sized croud will 
show.

It might be a good idea to keep the NIGHT LIGHTS ON in the classroom rather 
than the overhead lights -- which are particularly annoying to people with 
telescopes set up next to the observatory.

Fiske

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Tom

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Tom,
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Joe & Rita:  The asking price for the property is $90,000.  It seems like a
lot, I think we could come up with a lot of the money and mortgage the rest
of it.  Just think, if 300 members donated $300 each, it would be payed off.

The property is practically ideal for our purposes (in my opinion).  It's
got a great southern sky view from just about  anywhere.  The only light
problem may be from Garnett, 10 miles west.  All other towns are very small.
Larry and I will be going out some clear night to see how the skies really
are.

The view from the top of the hill is really great.  The mobile home would
make a great club house, plus bunk beds can easily be put into the bedroom
and study room.

The property is going on the market in a few days.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe & Rita Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Tom,

I didn't notice a price for the property..?

Joe

I think the asking price is $97,000.
I have a few more details that I will bring to the meeting.
Kathy
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] dark sky land


> Joe & Rita:  The asking price for the property is $90,000.  It seems like
a
> lot, I think we could come up with a lot of the money and mortgage the
rest
> of it.  Just think, if 300 members donated $300 each, it would be payed
off.
>
> The property is practically ideal for our purposes (in my opinion).  It's
> got a great southern sky view from just about  anywhere.  The only light
> problem may be from Garnett, 10 miles west.  All other towns are very
small.
> Larry and I will be going out some clear night to see how the skies really
> are.
>
> The view from the top of the hill is really great.  The mobile home would
> make a great club house, plus bunk beds can easily be put into the bedroom
> and study room.
>
> The property is going on the market in a few days.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe & Rita Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
> Tom,
>
> I didn't notice a price for the property..?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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>
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>

Anyone stick around for the clear sky? It sure is clear out.


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I have reserved Sunday night at Powell for the NEO group. Please let me know if you will be able to join me for an evening of imaging. I will NOT be able to stay past midnight. These 3:00 runs are too much for me.



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Don't forget!

Scott has set aside tonight for imaging of ARP galaxies!


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I won't be down there, but Dave Probert and Richard Fredrick will be imaging ARP galaxies.

David Young wrote:
> 
> Don't forget!
> 
> Scott has set aside tonight for imaging of ARP galaxies!
> 
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> 
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-I'm sick with a bad chest cold, or I'd come down. That's why I'm not 
at tonight's club meeting. Spent three nights out in the cold this 
week observing and am now "paying" for it. Was able to observe aprox. 
250 galaxies, though. 

keep looking up,

Jim

-- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I have reserved Sunday night at Powell for the NEO group. Please 
let me know if you will be able to join me for an evening of imaging. 
I will NOT be able to stay past midnight. These 3:00 runs are too 
much for me.
> 
> 
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Headed to Powell to do a little work this afternoon. Should be there from about 1:15 until .......??   We're going to do a little work on the VOS.

Come on down.


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I'm off to Kitt Peak in the morning and will be back in town Friday. The observatory is currently available the rest of the week. Please direct all requests for reservations to Dick Trentman or Kathy Machin. 

Please keep in mind that according to the established rules you should always check with the scheduler, the observatory director, one of his assistants or with the president BEFORE you enter the observatory. Sometimes a nice clear night comes along and its hard to resist. All you need to do is call one of them. If you don't reach someone you can leave a message and take your chances in case someone else already has the place. You should always try to find out if someone else is using the place BEFORE you barge in.

Thanks and hope you have a few clear nights while I'm gone!


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David seems  to have forgotten that I have reserved the 30" for tonight (Monday). I plan to do some supernova imaging, but if there is an astrometric person out there, please join me and we can do some NEO's too.   Dave

David Young wrote:

> I'm off to Kitt Peak in the morning and will be back in town Friday. The observatory is currently available the rest of the week. Please direct all requests for reservations to Dick Trentman or Kathy Machin.
>
> Please keep in mind that according to the established rules you should always check with the scheduler, the observatory director, one of his assistants or with the president BEFORE you enter the observatory. Sometimes a nice clear night comes along and its hard to resist. All you need to do is call one of them. If you don't reach someone you can leave a message and take your chances in case someone else already has the place. You should always try to find out if someone else is using the place BEFORE you barge in.
>
> Thanks and hope you have a few clear nights while I'm gone!
>
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I have a star party for camp fire girls scheduled for this Thursday. I will be out of town. Anyone interested in doing this?

Roger Gruenke is the duty guy and for obvious reasons will not be available. Larrene Guerrero is not a keyholder. 

HELP!


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Thursday is now taken.


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Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get exact 
location.

This will take at least a 6" scope. You will also need a cassette
tape recorder (to record your observations) and a shortwave radio (for
time signal overlay). If you have one of the Supercircuits PC23 video 
cameras, you can video tape the event (even better - but still need
the radio for the time signals to be heard)

Bob Sandy will be leading an expedition on the Missouri side. I will 
be leading the expedition on the Kansas side.

These are fun and easy to do. We always meet somewhere before hand, 
and then afterwards, if not too late, hit somewhere to eat. They 
provide scientific data to the professional community for a variety
of uses. We have the AIC doing real science. Here is another way to 
contribute if asteroids "aren't your thing".

If you are interested, please contact me within the next several
weeks so I can plan on how many observing sites I need to set up.

Rob Robinson
VP of Occultation Services, IOTA

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Ooops! Got location wrong on this one. It is NOT between Bonner and 
Olathe. SAO 80087 on  April 29th is going to me more toward St. Joe 
Missouri.
The one between Olathe and Bonner occurs on Sunday morning, the 15th 
around 3:30 am (shown below). If interested in either of these,
please still contact me.

--- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get
exact 
> location.

Count me in.

Joe

webmaster@... wrote:

> Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get exact
> location.
>
> This will take at least a 6" scope. You will also need a cassette
> tape recorder (to record your observations) and a shortwave radio (for
> time signal overlay). If you have one of the Supercircuits PC23 video
> cameras, you can video tape the event (even better - but still need
> the radio for the time signals to be heard)
>
> Bob Sandy will be leading an expedition on the Missouri side. I will
> be leading the expedition on the Kansas side.
>
> These are fun and easy to do. We always meet somewhere before hand,
> and then afterwards, if not too late, hit somewhere to eat. They
> provide scientific data to the professional community for a variety
> of uses. We have the AIC doing real science. Here is another way to
> contribute if asteroids "aren't your thing".
>
> If you are interested, please contact me within the next several
> weeks so I can plan on how many observing sites I need to set up.
>
> Rob Robinson
> VP of Occultation Services, IOTA
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Rob,

I might be able to make both.

Joe

webmaster@... wrote:

> Ooops! Got location wrong on this one. It is NOT between Bonner and
> Olathe. SAO 80087 on  April 29th is going to me more toward St. Joe
> Missouri.
> The one between Olathe and Bonner occurs on Sunday morning, the 15th
> around 3:30 am (shown below). If interested in either of these,
> please still contact me.
>
> --- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> > Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> > which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> > Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> > The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> > Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> > More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get
> exact
> > location.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

This has been going through some of the telescope egroups.  Just 
wanted everyone to be aware of it.  

====

To all amateur astronomers and lovers of astronomy:
During the week of March 17-25 my storage unit was burglarized and my 
25" f/5 Obsession telescope and large wooden eyepiece box was stolen. 
I believe the thief to be in the astronomical community as only one 
who has knowledge of the scopes whereabouts and what it was would 
steal it. The thief left a 31" Sony Trinitron sitting right next to 
the scope there and closed the storage up. A thief wouldn't know what 
truss poles were for, or a light shroud bag, or even what they were 
looking at (a disassembled Obsession).

The scope is new (manufactured 5/00) and has the name "Mike Benz" 
inscribed on the brass nameplate with serial #605 (I believe).

It has a f/5 Galaxy mirror (serial # as yet unknown, but I have the
interferogram in storage somewhere and have requested the # from John 
Hudek of Galaxy).

It has hi-resolution digital setting circles, the truss poles are 
wired for 12V and the encoder cables run through one of the poles. The 
secondary has an Astrosystems dew heater with the battery velcroed to 
the spider (Novak).  It also has a Feathertouch (black) focuser and 
light shroud.

The eyepiece box is one of Steve Carroll's Astrocaddy's and has the
following eyepieces:  35mm Panoptic, 30mm Takahashi LE, 27mm Panoptic, 
24mm UO ortho, 20mm Nagler, 18mm Takahashi LE, 16mm Nagler 2, 14mm 
Pentax XL, 10.5mm Pentax XL, 9mm Nagler, 7mm Nagler, 4.7mm Meade UWA, 
TV 2" Big Barlow, 48mm O-III (Lumicon) filter and 1.25" Orion or Meade 
light pollution filter. There was also a red adjustable and green 
adjustable intensity flashlight with string to hang around your neck.

The telescope was NOT insured and I'm at a loss as to how I ever could
recover such a loss. These are bad times when fellow amateurs would 
rip another astronomer off like this, so everybody start taking extra
precautions of who you allow to see your equipment.

I would give a $1000 reward for the return of the equipment and like 
others have said before me, if the scope/accessories are returned, I 
promise not to press charges.

Thank you for all your help in recovering and watching for all my 
equipment at star parties.

Randy Rogers
Dallas, TX
214.458.7961

Rob I will be interested in doing both also. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: webmaster@...
[mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:51 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Good Graze Occultation Sunday Evening April 29


Ooops! Got location wrong on this one. It is NOT between Bonner and 
Olathe. SAO 80087 on  April 29th is going to me more toward St. Joe 
Missouri.
The one between Olathe and Bonner occurs on Sunday morning, the 15th 
around 3:30 am (shown below). If interested in either of these,
please still contact me.

--- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get
exact 
> location.






 

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Rob I would be interested in participating with one of the Kansas groups
on the 29th. I've not attempted this before but have an 8" LX200 and a
ham radio transceiver capable of receiving the WWV time signals. 
Bill All - Olathe 


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webmaster@... wrote:
> 
> Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get exact
> location.
> 
> This will take at least a 6" scope. You will also need a cassette
> tape recorder (to record your observations) and a shortwave radio (for
> time signal overlay). If you have one of the Supercircuits PC23 video
> cameras, you can video tape the event (even better - but still need
> the radio for the time signals to be heard)
> 
> Bob Sandy will be leading an expedition on the Missouri side. I will
> be leading the expedition on the Kansas side.
> 
> These are fun and easy to do. We always meet somewhere before hand,
> and then afterwards, if not too late, hit somewhere to eat. They
> provide scientific data to the professional community for a variety
> of uses. We have the AIC doing real science. Here is another way to
> contribute if asteroids "aren't your thing".
> 
> If you are interested, please contact me within the next several
> weeks so I can plan on how many observing sites I need to set up.
> 
> Rob Robinson
> VP of Occultation Services, IOTA

Hey all!

Break out those eclipse galsses!  If you haven't check it out yet, you 
need to......

"HUGE SUNSPOT: The largest sunspot in ten years is crossing the solar 
disk.  The fast-growing spot, called AR9393, covers an area of the Sun
equivalent to the total surface area of 13 Earths! Visit 
spaceweather.com to learn how this sunspot compares to others in 
history and how to safely observe it."

......it is about 1/3 the way across the face of the Sun at the 2:00 
position as seen during midday and VERY apparent.

Safe viewing!   -Scott

I got home at 3:45 pm today, set up my 6" refractor and enjoyed one of the
most incredible shows of the sun I have ever seen.  I watched it until it
starting going behind trees around 5:30 pm.  The seeing was really great,
even at the low horizon view.  Too bad we didn't have this kind of stuff at
the zoo a few weeks ago.

Tom

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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:47 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] giant sunspot


Hey all!

Break out those eclipse galsses!  If you haven't check it out yet, you
need to......

"HUGE SUNSPOT: The largest sunspot in ten years is crossing the solar
disk.  The fast-growing spot, called AR9393, covers an area of the Sun
equivalent to the total surface area of 13 Earths! Visit
spaceweather.com to learn how this sunspot compares to others in
history and how to safely observe it."

......it is about 1/3 the way across the face of the Sun at the 2:00
position as seen during midday and VERY apparent.

Safe viewing!   -Scott







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Anyone interested in pouring concrete tomorrow? We have the VOS pad area almost ready to but will need some bodies to place wire and re-bar before the pour. 


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From:  "Melissa Kirk" <makirk37@h...>
Date:  Thu Mar 29, 2001 11:23pm
Subject:  Proposal

The notice of intent for NEO observations is due on 4/13. I think it 
would be really neat if the ASKC were to make a second proposal. Could 
some of you prepare a new proposal? I asked Joe Alburty if he could 
write the notice of intent. Here are the names others who I think 
could provide valuable contributions to such an effort.
                  
David Young, Larry Robinson, David Hudgins, David Probert, Scott 
Kranz, Dick Trentman, Kyle Smalley, Richard Fredrick, Dr. Eric 
Flescher, Shelley Granger, Gil Machin, Nick Reuss, Joe and Rita 
Wright, Bill All, and Bill Boyle. There may be others.
                  
Larry has thought that we might propose to do light curve work. 
Perhaps there could be a brainstorming meeting on IRC on Monday night 
4/2/2001 at 7 p.m. CST to discuss possible proposal topics and an 
action plan. I will be in Albuquerque from Saturday morning to Tuesday 
night 4/3/2001 and will not have internet access during this time.
 
Melissa Kirk

Yes, I saw it yesterday also. But not with eclipse glasses or a 
telescope. I saw it right here on my desk at work. The venetian blinds 
on the window have small holes in them. They project small images of 
the sun across my desk. I am looking at the sun spot on my desk right 
now. I made a very simple and small sketch of the big spot yesterday 
and I'll do another one today. I'll bring them to the Novice Night at 
Powell Observatory tomorrow.

David Preston

PS I don't like the way Yahoo only puts your email address and not your 
name in the header of messages. Sometimes it's difficult or even 
impossile to determine who a message is from.


--- In ASKC@y..., skranz@w... wrote:
> Hey all!
> 
> Break out those eclipse galsses!  If you haven't check it out yet, you 
> need to......
> 
> "HUGE SUNSPOT: The largest sunspot in ten years is crossing the solar 
> disk.  The fast-growing spot, called AR9393, covers an area of the Sun
> equivalent to the total surface area of 13 Earths! Visit 
> spaceweather.com to learn how this sunspot compares to others in 
> history and how to safely observe it."
> 
> ......it is about 1/3 the way across the face of the Sun at the 2:00 
> position as seen during midday and VERY apparent.
> 
> Safe viewing!   -Scott

GIANT SOLAR STORM HEADED OUR WAY
-------------------------
Astronomers watching the sun have reported that a giant coronal
mass ejection (CME) is heading directly towards the Earth and
should reach us within the next 24 to 36 hours. The CME was ejected
from the sun out of one of the largest clusters of sunspots seen in
several decades. Scientists expect we'll have a geomagnetic storm
when the CME hits our atmosphere, including communications
interference and some spectacular aurorae, visible from lower
latitudes.

Original Source: 
http://www.spaceweather.com/

Internet Coverage:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1251000/1251493.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/03/30/sun.activity/index.html
http://space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/sunspot_burst_010329.html

Similar Stories: 
http://www.universetoday.com/html/topics/sun.html

Related Sites: 
http://www.universetoday.com/html/directory/solarastronomy.html

Related Books: 
http://www.universetoday.com/html/books/astronomy.html

Esprit net is having DNS problems.  To get to #sciastro simply point your
IRC client to 207.136.8.251 instead of dallas.tx.us.esprit.net and you will
connect just fine.  This will also allow you to get to the other channels on
Esprit.net such #asteroids.
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  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:30 PM
  To: ASKCasteroids@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKCasteroids] irc


  Can't get onto IRC with Pirch tonight. Is the server down or is it on my
end somewhere?




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Nick and I will be at Powell at 8:00 AM Saturday morning to lay rebar. Help would be nice.


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Wow, what a huge sunspot. I was able to look at it today. It's great.

Gary 

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Both shots uploaded were taken by placing my digital camera (on a 
tripod) up to the eyepiece.  The full disk image was using a 32mm 
eyepiece and the spots shot used a 20mm eyepiece.  Both were using my 
7" dob.

Interesting blue color the solar filter material gives the Sun.  It's 
not that noticable to the eye.

-Scott

Nice image Scott. Isn't that a fantastic group!

Gary

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Don't ya just hate it when ya sleep through the way bitchin aurora?


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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Don't ya just hate it when ya sleep through the way bitchin aurora?

I was up between midnight and 2:00am and didn't see a thing.
The whole town of Bonner had a blackout about 1:00am that lasted
about 30 minutes (jeez, I saw stars!). Aurora related? Probably not. 
Could still see sky glow from Shawnee (southeast)and KC (east).
Clouds were moving in from the west and were up about 25 degrees. But 
it was dark and any hint of aurora in the north, should have been 
seen. Sounds like the majority of people that saw it were west of the 
continental divide. I have not seen any reports of anyone in the 
midwest seeing it. Eastern half of the US was pretty well under 
clouds.

Northern lights from South Dakota to Utah and all over last night. Our luck. 
I can help with the concrete on Sunday  if that is happening ,

I could also help with the asteroid proposal.

 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

Rob:  How long were you out there?

Gloria and I stepped out the door to look at the sky sometime after
midnight, as we always do before we go to bed.  We saw aurora that covered
parts of the sky from the north to directly overhead.  The one overhead was
incredible.  I went running inside to get my camera, when my daughter hands
me the phone.  It was Scott Kranz, telling me he was seeing it from Raytown.

By the time I got the camera out and on a tripod, the bright piece overhead
was gone but there were streamers and shafts of light in various places.
Gloria called the Allens and the Goodes.  Johnny walked to our home (we only
live two houses apart) and found us sitting on lawn chairs enjoying the
show.

After a while it died down, and we got cold, so we went to bed.

Tom

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Subject: [ASKC] Re: sky show


--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Don't ya just hate it when ya sleep through the way bitchin aurora?

I was up between midnight and 2:00am and didn't see a thing.
The whole town of Bonner had a blackout about 1:00am that lasted
about 30 minutes (jeez, I saw stars!). Aurora related? Probably not.
Could still see sky glow from Shawnee (southeast)and KC (east).
Clouds were moving in from the west and were up about 25 degrees. But
it was dark and any hint of aurora in the north, should have been
seen. Sounds like the majority of people that saw it were west of the
continental divide. I have not seen any reports of anyone in the
midwest seeing it. Eastern half of the US was pretty well under
clouds.







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Scott, great pictures.  I tried the same type of pictures, but with a normal
35mm camera.  The images are still on the unprocessed film.

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To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC

Hi group,
What time is the novice observer program set to start today?
I'm going down to Powell Observatory with scope and will be ready to have
some serious fun looking at the moon and other things. Maybe aurora again
tonight?
Right now I can not put my hands on anything with the start time.
Anybody know?
Kathy

I think it was set to start at 4:00 Kathy. That's what I have on my
calendar.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: kathy [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:33 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory night


Hi group,
What time is the novice observer program set to start today?
I'm going down to Powell Observatory with scope and will be ready to have
some serious fun looking at the moon and other things. Maybe aurora again
tonight?
Right now I can not put my hands on anything with the start time.
Anybody know?
Kathy







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Rob,
 
I live in Olathe and it was great!  The sky was red with white 
streamers and some faint hint of bluish-green.  It went from NW to 
almost E...  It probably went further, but I have Overland Park sky 
glow lighting up my E and NE sky.
 
Anyway, I couldn't believe it!!!  It was wonderful.
 
Gina


--- In ASKC@y..., webmaster@l... wrote:
> continental divide. I have not seen any reports of anyone in the 
> midwest seeing it. Eastern half of the US was pretty well under 
> clouds.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Tom Martinez wrote:

>Rob:  How long were you out there?
>
>Gloria and I stepped out the door to look at the sky sometime after
>midnight, as we always do before we go to bed.  We saw aurora that covered
>parts of the sky from the north to directly overhead.  

That just shows you how localized this stuff can be.  I left Lawrence
last night about 12:30 AM and drove home to Kansas City, on the alert,
and didn't see a thing.  I was feeling pretty sick and my focus was on
getting home safely and not on auroras, but I did keep a watch through
the windows and I did stop in Basehor for a few minutes to try for a
better look.  I saw nothing.

If Rob didn't see anything between midnight and 2, maybe nothing was
there.  In the same time frame, in the same general area, I didn't see
anything. I would have missed a weak display, but I'm not so sure
I would have missed a strong one.

Dennis

fyi
since I did not see the northern lights possibly I can catch this comet
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

             Comet AstroAlert: Comet LINEAR (C/2001 A2)

A faint in-bound comet, discovered in January and due to become a nice
observing target in June, seems to have "turned on" much sooner than
expected. Following a major outburst this past week, the comet is already
within easy reach of small telescopes in the constellation Monoceros, low
in the southwestern sky at nightfall.

Back in mid-January, the MIT Lincoln Laboratory team in Socorro, New
Mexico, reported a 19th-magnitude object in Cancer that did not appear
to be moving like a typical main-belt asteroid. Follow-up CCD observations
at two observatories in the Czech Republic revealed a fuzzy rather than a
point-source image, and Daniel W. E. Green of the Central Bureau for
Astronomical Telegrams announced the discovery of Comet LINEAR (C/2001 A2)
on IAU Circular 7564. This was the 54th comet discovered or co-discovered
by the LINEAR team to date. (There have been a few more Comet LINEARs
since.)

The orbital elements calculated by Brian G. Marsden, and the brightness
observations available in January, suggested the comet would brighten
slowly to perhaps 13th or 12th magnitude by the start of April,
ultimately reaching about 9th magnitude in June.

But then, starting on March 26th, Michael Mattiazzo of Wallaroo, South
Australia, noticed the comet was much brighter than expected. With a
20-centimeter reflector on the 26th and 28th, he found it to be magnitude
10.7. On March 30th, using a 25 x 100 binocular, he called it 8.0. Other
observers around the world agree that something dramatic has happened to
this comet. Their reports are summarized on IAU Circular 7564, issued
March 30th ( http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/cbat.html ).

The ephemeris below, calculated at Sky & Telescope from Marsden's elements,
gives the comet's position at 0h Universal Time on each day for the next
several weeks. Also given are its distances from the Earth (Delta) and 
Sun (r) in astronomical units, elongation angle from the Sun, approximate
magnitude, and constellation.

IMPORTANT NOTE: The magnitude predictions given here are based on the 
current outburst, which may not last. The comet could fade by several 
magnitudes during this time.


Roger W. Sinnott
Sky & Telescope
 >>

For those of you that missed the aurora we had a front row seat in Cleveland Missouri.  There are several homes for sell in the area if you are interested.



----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Budd
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:47 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Tom Martinez wrote:

>Rob:  How long were you out there?
>
>Gloria and I stepped out the door to look at the sky sometime after
>midnight, as we always do before we go to bed.  We saw aurora that covered
>parts of the sky from the north to directly overhead.

That just shows you how localized this stuff can be.  I left Lawrence
last night about 12:30 AM and drove home to Kansas City, on the alert,
and didn't see a thing.  I was feeling pretty sick and my focus was on
getting home safely and not on auroras, but I did keep a watch through
the windows and I did stop in Basehor for a few minutes to try for a
better look.  I saw nothing.

If Rob didn't see anything between midnight and 2, maybe nothing was
there.  In the same time frame, in the same general area, I didn't see
anything. I would have missed a weak display, but I'm not so sure
I would have missed a strong one.

Dennis







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Nick Reuss, Larry Goode and David Young made some good progress on the new home for the 16" Dob yesterday. We have the support posts for the building cemented in and the gravel base and re-bar in place. 

The next big effort will be to install the steel posts for the roll off roof  and to pour the slab in a couple of weeks. We intend to use 3 U-Carts pulled by 3 pick up trucks to do the pour since the cost will be half of what a ready mix truck would charge.

We were very shorthanded yesterday and it made for a long, long day for the three of us. A few more people would be greatly appreciated when we attack again.


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Just wanted to send this URL so I could snag it from Powell.  Lazy ain't I?

http://www.intellicast.com/Star/World/UnitedStates/AuroraActivity/


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David Young wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to send this URL so I could snag it from Powell.  Lazy ain't I?
> 
> http://www.intellicast.com/Star/World/UnitedStates/AuroraActivity/
> 

You can also check the same data without intellicast's obnoxious ads at
http://sec.noaa.gov/pmap/index.html
Now what's it all mean? :-)
Bill
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Yesterday evening about sunset several of us spotted what we thought
might be Jupiter, but turned out to be a weather balloon.  Scott put his
scope on it and we could see the balloon and the radiosonde swinging
beneath it.  
If we knew a balloon's altitude, latitude, and longitude is it possible
to calculate an alt/azimuth bearing from a known location to find it
with a telescope?
Bill

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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Don't ya just hate it when ya sleep through the way bitchin 
aurora?
> 

David;
     This is Debbie.  I almost called you--really.  You always used 
to call me when this happened long, long ago in the 90's and I 
thought about calling you-but I figured you were already outside 
and I would wake up the whole household. Next time I'll call.
     David and I were getting ready for bed while listening to Art 
Bell.  Art was raving about the aurora at his home in Pahrump, 
NV.  David went outside, and sure enough, it was beginning.  It 
was spectacular!  I kept coming back in for one more layer of 
clothing-it was a little chilly out here in God's country.  We 
watched from about 12:10 til about 12:50.  There was a huge 
spot of orange and red that hung northeast of our barn for the 
length of the entire show.  Then due north, it was mostly red, with 
ocassional white, very sharp spikes, some of which extended 
beyond zenith (we actually looked a little to the south to see the 
end of the spikes.)  As for green, we saw a bit, but not like the 
aurora of 91.  It was definitely in the shape of curtains to the 
north.  We didn't see much activity towards Lee's Summit.  But 
what a show due north and northeast.
    We did talk to Elizabeth Brown in Gladstone.  She watched it 
from there.  Also, Linda and Lora saw it from Ruskin Heights.  
    Next time, I'll call!
                                                                    Debbie Harrelson
                                                         

  If we knew a balloon's altitude, latitude, and longitude is it possible
  to calculate an alt/azimuth bearing from a known location to find it
  with a telescope?
  Bill

  Uh, yes, but since the ballon would be moving in only generally predicatable directions due to shifts in the wind it would be pretty hard to get useful conversions. The trig involved wouldn't be very difficult but it would only solve for a single spot in 3 dimensions and if the wind was off of the prediction in any vector......




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I know we're past solar max now but there seems to be some big spots popping up. Anyone interested in a calling tree for aurora to be active for the next few months?


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Hey, if it's happening, I want to know! :-)

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 5:26 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: sky show


  I know we're past solar max now but there seems to be some big spots
popping up. Anyone interested in a calling tree for aurora to be active for
the next few months?


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I'm all for it!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 7:26 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: sky show


I know we're past solar max now but there seems to be some big spots popping
up. Anyone interested in a calling tree for aurora to be active for the next
few months?


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David:  Year ago, the club had a calling tree for very much the same reason,
I think you were on the list.  I just pulled the last version from the ASKC
history  books.  It was called "ASKC Sky Alert Hotline".  The list consisted
of 6 pages of between 5 to 10 names each.  Those with long distance numbers
had there own page.

We didn't have the internet back then, so the list was a really good way to
get the word out.  Now we probably should not only call but leave an e-mail
to everyone on the list.

We could start one right here on ASKC e-groups.  I'd be willing to maintain
the list.

Here is the write up on the front of the list:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian

  How many people want to be on the list?


  ME       ME      ME

  Sorry didn't mean to sound so enthusiastic.



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how do we sign up for those alerts? I looked outside last night but I guess 
not late enough. 

Eric Flescher

Sounds good, Tom.  Put me on the list.

Carroll Iorg

On 2 Apr 2001 07:40:58 -0000, you wrote:

> From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>

Put me on the list please!!!!!!

I would have called more people Friday night, but didin't know who I 
could disturb at 12:30am.

It was an AWESOME show!!!!!!!


-Scott Kranz

-
Please put my name on the list and call anytime. My toll free number 
is 816-230-5750.

Jim

-- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
> David:  Year ago, the club had a calling tree for very much the 
same reason,
> I think you were on the list.  I just pulled the last version from 
the ASKC
> history  books.  It was called "ASKC Sky Alert Hotline".  The list 
consisted
> of 6 pages of between 5 to 10 names each.  Those with long distance 
numbers
> had there own page.
> 
> We didn't have the internet back then, so the list was a really 
good way to
> get the word out.  Now we probably should not only call but leave 
an e-mail
> to everyone on the list.
> 
> We could start one right here on ASKC e-groups.  I'd be willing to 
maintain
> the list.
> 
> Here is the write up on the front of the list:
> -----------------------------------------
> Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called 
whenever as
> astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is 
not a
> phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets 
do some
> observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
> *Aurora
> +Supernova in another galaxy
> *Unusually heavy meteor shower
> *White light solar flares
> *Nova
> +Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
> +Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
> +New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
> *New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
> *Unusual events on a planet
> +Naked eye sunspot
> 
> An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
> A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a 
call.
> 
> When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give 
as much
> information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, 
etc.
> 
> Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the 
pertinent
> information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If 
you can't
> reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give 
the child
> or the recorder the information, then call the next person after 
him or her.
> -----------------------------------
> 
> One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called 
anytime,
> or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.
> 
> How many people want to be on the list?
> 
> Clear Skies,
> Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian

i do ..shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:23 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: sky show


  How many people want to be on the list?


  ME       ME      ME

  Sorry didn't mean to sound so enthusiastic.



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--- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
> How many people want to be on the list?

Put me on it. Use the "house phone" number - 913-422-1262
May not hear or have the ringer up on the DSL phone line in the 
office.

Please me three.
                                            Gil and Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: sky show


: --- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
: > How many people want to be on the list?
:
: Put me on it. Use the "house phone" number - 913-422-1262
: May not hear or have the ringer up on the DSL phone line in the
: office.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
:
:
:

Ahoy mates, thar be star parties ahead.

I have star parties booked for April 3, April 4, and April 5. 
The April 3 just came in today and I will do it.
Tim Kristal is standing in for David Hudgins for April 4 but could use some help

I need someone for April 5.


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Hello, long time no type.  I have star parties booked for April 4 and April 5. Any chance you could do the one on April 5 for girl scouts? Tim Kristal will cover for David Hudgins on April 4. I've left a message to all in the askc group asking for additional help for both nights.


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David Young wrote:
> 
> Ahoy mates, thar be star parties ahead.
> 
> I have star parties booked for April 3, April 4, and April 5.
> The April 3 just came in today and I will do it.
> Tim Kristal is standing in for David Hudgins for April 4 but could use some help
> 
> I need someone for April 5.
> 
Dave, what is expected of those who help? I can be available on the 4th
or the 5th.

Bill
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email: n3kkm@...
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Tom, put me on the list please!

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 8:30 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


  How many people want to be on the list?

  Clear Skies,
  Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian


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Tom,

I think I was on the original list and I wish to remain on it. Let's do it!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 10:30 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


David:  Year ago, the club had a calling tree for very much the same reason,
I think you were on the list.  I just pulled the last version from the ASKC
history  books.  It was called "ASKC Sky Alert Hotline".  The list consisted
of 6 pages of between 5 to 10 names each.  Those with long distance numbers
had there own page.

We didn't have the internet back then, so the list was a really good way to
get the word out.  Now we probably should not only call but leave an e-mail
to everyone on the list.

We could start one right here on ASKC e-groups.  I'd be willing to maintain
the list.

Here is the write up on the front of the list:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian







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another round coming let's get this phone tree going and ready
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

Forwarded from Mike Boschat (aa063@...)

                        MAJOR SOLAR FLARE ALERT

                       ISSUED: 22:15 UTC, 02 APRIL 2001

     The most intense x-ray flare observed so far this solar cycle erupted
a short time ago from Region 9393. X-rays reached a class X17.1 x-ray
intensity at 21:51 UTC. It is too early to tell very much more except that
this is a potentially strong proton flare. A strong Type II sweep has been
associated with this event. However, the shock velocity has yet to be
estimated.


** End of Notice **

Scott, beautiful photos (I finally figured out how to access
askcgroupsfiles.  Tom, your touch-up sure hilited the amazing phenomena. 
Beautiful.

David,

Unfortunately I can't help on the 5th, but if you or Tim would like help on the
3rd or 4th I'd be happy help with either of these nights.

Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 7:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


> Ahoy mates, thar be star parties ahead.
>
> I have star parties booked for April 3, April 4, and April 5.
> The April 3 just came in today and I will do it.
> Tim Kristal is standing in for David Hudgins for April 4 but could use some
help
>
> I need someone for April 5.

put me on the list- 913-780-5902

I looked at the wrong times

 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

count Larry and I in



----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martinez
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 10:30 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


David:  Year ago, the club had a calling tree for very much the same reason,
I think you were on the list.  I just pulled the last version from the ASKC
history  books.  It was called "ASKC Sky Alert Hotline".  The list consisted
of 6 pages of between 5 to 10 names each.  Those with long distance numbers
had there own page.

We didn't have the internet back then, so the list was a really good way to
get the word out.  Now we probably should not only call but leave an e-mail
to everyone on the list.

We could start one right here on ASKC e-groups.  I'd be willing to maintain
the list.

Here is the write up on the front of the list:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian







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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Ahoy mates, thar be star parties ahead.
> 
> I have star parties booked for April 3, April 4, and April 5. 
> The April 3 just came in today and I will do it.
> Tim Kristal is standing in for David Hudgins for April 4 but could 
use some help
> 
> I need someone for April 5.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi David,

I think I can do the star party on the 5th. Please let me know time, 
location and who to contact.

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kyle Smalley 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  David,

  Unfortunately I can't help on the 5th, but if you or Tim would like help on the
  3rd or 4th I'd be happy help with either of these nights.

  Kyle

  Thanks Kyle, I can't reach Debbie by phone or e-mail so I'll do the one tonight and the one Thursday. Tim is standing in for David Hudgins but Tim does not have a key as yet although the board approved him as a keyholder. He has not had full training as yet. Please contact Joe Berlekamp at 913-897-7737 to make arrangements and to be sure they want to go rain or shine. Thanks!


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David:  Is is possible for you to scan your drawings and send them to me for
the history books?  If not, I can scan them for you.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: dpreston@... [mailto:dpreston@...]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:08 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: giant sunspot


Yes, I saw it yesterday also. But not with eclipse glasses or a
telescope. I saw it right here on my desk at work. The venetian blinds
on the window have small holes in them. They project small images of
the sun across my desk. I am looking at the sun spot on my desk right
now. I made a very simple and small sketch of the big spot yesterday
and I'll do another one today. I'll bring them to the Novice Night at
Powell Observatory tomorrow.

David Preston

PS I don't like the way Yahoo only puts your email address and not your
name in the header of messages. Sometimes it's difficult or even
impossile to determine who a message is from.


--- In ASKC@y..., skranz@w... wrote:
> Hey all!
>
> Break out those eclipse galsses!  If you haven't check it out yet, you
> need to......
>
> "HUGE SUNSPOT: The largest sunspot in ten years is crossing the solar
> disk.  The fast-growing spot, called AR9393, covers an area of the Sun
> equivalent to the total surface area of 13 Earths! Visit
> spaceweather.com to learn how this sunspot compares to others in
> history and how to safely observe it."
>
> ......it is about 1/3 the way across the face of the Sun at the 2:00
> position as seen during midday and VERY apparent.
>
> Safe viewing!   -Scott








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The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
have the following people:
Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
David Young
Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg
Dave Hudgins
Scott Kranz
Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger
Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin
Gina Fedon
Gary & Linda Pittman
Larry & Sharon Goode

Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?

Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer can
get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic Messenger
(too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups will
be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.

Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian

  Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.

  David Young 913-631-8413 or 913-558-1155 call anytime



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Tom you can call me anytime at 816-619-3309 (home) or 816-305-7075 (cell)
Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
have the following people:
Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
David Young
Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg
Dave Hudgins
Scott Kranz
Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger
Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin
Gina Fedon
Gary & Linda Pittman
Larry & Sharon Goode

Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?

Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer can
get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic Messenger
(too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups will
be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.

Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian














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Call me anytime at 816-522-8921.

BTW,  did anyone happen to know if there was any aurora last night(04-
03).  I tried tuning Art Bell at midnight and I couldn't pick up 
710AM.  Tried other AM stations and none were coming in.  I even 
tried a couple other radios and nothing on the AM band was coming 
through........????    There was a thunderstorm but, usually then you 
just get crakling and not a complete signal loss.

-Scott

On 4 Apr 2001 07:40:24 -0000, you wrote:

>From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@sky.net>


Tom,
We can be called anytime @ (816) 444-4878 or
during the day at work  @ (816) 922-6024

Thanks

Carroll Iorg

Tom:

Please add me to the list

Dave Brockway
Call anytime
Day 816-767-7820
Night 913-338-0808

Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


> The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
> have the following people:
> Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
> David Young
> Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
> Carroll & Betty Iorg
> Dave Hudgins
> Scott Kranz
> Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
> Shelley Granger
> Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
> Gil & Kathy Machin
> Gina Fedon
> Gary & Linda Pittman
> Larry & Sharon Goode
>
> Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
> I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
> phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
> you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
> only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?
>
> Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
> list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer
can
> get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic
Messenger
> (too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups
will
> be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
> is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.
>
> Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
> -----------------------------------------
> Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever
as
> astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
> phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
> observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
> *Aurora
> +Supernova in another galaxy
> *Unusually heavy meteor shower
> *White light solar flares
> *Nova
> +Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
> +Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
> +New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
> *New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
> *Unusual events on a planet
> +Naked eye sunspot
>
> An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
> A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.
>
> When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
> information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.
>
> Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
> information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you
can't
> reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the
child
> or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or
her.
> -----------------------------------
>
> One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called
anytime,
> or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.
>
> How many people want to be on the list?
>
> Clear Skies,
> Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

I figured you knew my number but it is 816 618 3403 and call anytime



----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
have the following people:
Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
David Young
Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg
Dave Hudgins
Scott Kranz
Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger
Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin
Gina Fedon
Gary & Linda Pittman
Larry & Sharon Goode

Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?

Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer can
get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic Messenger
(too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups will
be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.

Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian














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A couple of us should be at Powell tomorrow night for a program. If anyone would like to do a little work/training with the 30" please drop me a note. Of course if it is cloudy...Inx on the trip.


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Subject: Re: [NASAGRANT] meeting on IRC
Date:    Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:22:31 -0500
From:    "Melissa Kirk" <makirk37@...>


8 p.m. on 4/5 would be better for me to chat on IRC. How about everyone else? Folks, I would
personally like to prepare another proposal, but I currently have enough commitments. I am hoping
other people will prepare the proposal this time. A few people come to mind who may be interested in
preparing a proposal: David Young, David Hudgins, Larry, and Joe Alburty.
 
Melissa

Tom,

Use my home phone number and I can be called anytime.

Thanks for your efforts.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
have the following people:
Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
David Young
Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg
Dave Hudgins
Scott Kranz
Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger
Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin
Gina Fedon
Gary & Linda Pittman
Larry & Sharon Goode

Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?

Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer can
get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic Messenger
(too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups will
be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.

Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian














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Space Weather News for April 3, 2001
http://www.spaceweather.com

The biggest sunspot of the current solar cycle unleashed the most powerful
solar flare in at least 12 years yesterday.  The "X17" class eruption
blasted a coronal mass ejection into space and triggered an ongoing solar
radiation storm around our planet.  For details and updates please visit
http://SpaceWeather.com .

I am posting this message directly on the yahoogroups page.

It seems I can not receive e-mail for some reason. It appears I can 
send. Go figure. RR says it will be fixed by this afternoon. (And the 
checks in the mail)
 
There will be no work party at Powell Saturday.
 
There will be a familiarization session if anyone is interested.
 
If anyone gets this e-mail please call me at 913-631-8413. 

I just booked a star party for 80 to 100 6th graders for April 25.

That is Scott Kranz' and Tony Kostusik's duty week. I'm sure they 
will need help. I will be there.

Any other volunteers?

Please drop me a note or call me. We should have 4 or 5 people with a 
group of this size.

David,

Sure, count me in to help Scot and Tony! (Looks like a Wednesday night
right?: ^ )    Dave


dyoung8@... wrote:

> I just booked a star party for 80 to 100 6th graders for April 25.
>
> That is Scott Kranz' and Tony Kostusik's duty week. I'm sure they
> will need help. I will be there.
>
> Any other volunteers?
>
> Please drop me a note or call me. We should have 4 or 5 people with a
> group of this size.
>
>
>
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> There will be a familiarization session if anyone is interested.

David, are you going to Powell sometime Saturday?  I wanted to go 
sometime to look for some files on the computer.  If you still wanted 
to look at CAA with me, I could meet you down there.  Just let me 
know when.

Also, I've been having trouble with RR email all week.  I got some 
emails today, but email delivery for me is still over 24 hours late.

Kyle

It seems I can not receive e-mail for some reason. It appears I can send. Go figure. RR says it will be fixed by this afternoon. (And the checks in the mail)

There will be no work party at Powell Saturday.

There will be a familiarization session if anyone is interested.

If anyone gets this e-mail please call me at 913-631-8413. 



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My e-mail is still down. I knew they were lying when they said it 
would be back up today!

I talked with Nick today and he will not be able to be at Powell 
Saturday. There are a few things that could be accomplished if anyone 
wants to come down. I will be there about 12:00 and I think Nick 
indicated Dick Trentman would be there about 1:00.

Anyone who would like to come down is welcome. We can work or play as 
the mood strikes us.

The rest of the steel support material has been delivered. Tentative 
plans are to set the posts next Saturday, April 14. We may also pour 
the pad depending on the weather, available help and available $$$. 
I'm tapped out for a while. 

Nick also indicated he would be able to tweak the software to adjust 
the RA tracking on April 10 or 11. More details on that later.

I recieved this e-mail, probably via the ASKC website.  Can anybody help.

Tom Martinez
----------------------------
Hello!

My name is Rose Windham and I am a student at Missouri Western State
College.  I'm entering the field of elementary education.

Here is what I am looking for....

I am working with this wonderful little guy (12 years old) that has an
appetite for Astronomy.  He spends hours with a book of constellations and
tries to identify them in the sky.  I am lucky to be able to name the
planets and feel a hindrance to what this kid could accomplish with someone
who shares his same interest. I am looking for a mentor for him in the
field of astronomy.  Jon is well-behaved, and is generally liked.

Can you help me locate someone for him?  Any other suggestions would be
greatly appreciated, too.

Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.

Rose A. Windham
10521 N. Central Street
Kansas City, MO 64155
816-734-9962
rose@...

Here is another one from someone looking at our website.  It would be nice
if these people would get a variety of responses from ASKC members:

Hello!  We just moved here to KC a few months ago and found on the internet
the ASKC...My son who is only  6 1/2 is very interested in space and
astronomy so I thought this would be a good club to join for us...Is there
many activities that he will benefit from...Do they have a large group of
children involved..If not is there an astronomy club close to KC that
does..Also I would like to get him a telescope, I want a good one that he
can see things from but dont want to spend 500.00 either, can you give me a
brief description on what to look for...if you have a model that is better
than the others that would be great..I noticed the Nature Co. was having a
sale on their telescopes but had no idea what was what...I want to keep him
involved and interested so any info would be appreciated...Thanks  Kim

mjanks1@...

I think I may not have too too clear to Nick about the time I could be there
Saturday.
I am tied up from 12 till about 1 to 1:30 and hope to come out after that.
I just can't be sure of what time.  Dick.

-----Original Message-----
From: dyoung8@... [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:10 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell work party Saturday


My e-mail is still down. I knew they were lying when they said it
would be back up today!

I talked with Nick today and he will not be able to be at Powell
Saturday. There are a few things that could be accomplished if anyone
wants to come down. I will be there about 12:00 and I think Nick
indicated Dick Trentman would be there about 1:00.

Anyone who would like to come down is welcome. We can work or play as
the mood strikes us.

The rest of the steel support material has been delivered. Tentative
plans are to set the posts next Saturday, April 14. We may also pour
the pad depending on the weather, available help and available $$$.
I'm tapped out for a while.

Nick also indicated he would be able to tweak the software to adjust
the RA tracking on April 10 or 11. More details on that later.






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Correction on statement.   It is late ... sorry folks..DT


I think I may have mislead Nick about the time I could be there
Saturday.
I am tied up from 12 till about 1 to 1:30 and hope to come out after that.
I just can't be sure of what time.  Dick.

-----Original Message-----
From: dyoung8@... [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:10 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell work party Saturday


My e-mail is still down. I knew they were lying when they said it
would be back up today!

I talked with Nick today and he will not be able to be at Powell
Saturday. There are a few things that could be accomplished if anyone
wants to come down. I will be there about 12:00 and I think Nick
indicated Dick Trentman would be there about 1:00.

Anyone who would like to come down is welcome. We can work or play as
the mood strikes us.

The rest of the steel support material has been delivered. Tentative
plans are to set the posts next Saturday, April 14. We may also pour
the pad depending on the weather, available help and available $$$.
I'm tapped out for a while.

Nick also indicated he would be able to tweak the software to adjust
the RA tracking on April 10 or 11. More details on that later.






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hey, I attempted to respond to this request (with a soc dir type message) 
but it was promptly returned with an error message "550, user unknown".  


Did anyone else have a successful response attempt?  If so, please let 
me know, so I can try again.

 

thanks, Amy


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Tom Martinez  

To: ASKC 

Sent: 4/6/01 11:11:51 PM 

Subject: [ASKC] Another one





Here is another one from someone looking at our website.  It 
would be nice

if these people would get a variety of responses from ASKC members:

 

Hello!  We just moved here to KC a few months ago and found on 
the internet

the ASKC...My son who is only  6 1/2 is very interested in space 
and

astronomy so I thought this would be a good club to join for us...Is 
there

many activities that he will benefit from...Do they have a large group 
of

children involved..If not is there an astronomy club close to KC that

does..Also I would like to get him a telescope, I want a good one that 
he

can see things from but dont want to spend 500.00 either, can you give me 
a

brief description on what to look for...if you have a model that is 
better

than the others that would be great..I noticed the Nature Co. was having 
a

sale on their telescopes but had no idea what was what...I want to keep 
him

involved and interested so any info would be 
appreciated...Thanks  Kim

 

mjanks1@... 

 

 

 

 



 

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Auroras may be coming. Get that phone list ready. 
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

Space Weather News for April 7, 2001
http://www.spaceweather.com

Solar activity remained high on Friday as active region 9415, a sunspot
group about the five times the size of Earth, unleashed a powerful
X5-class solar flare.  The explosion hurled a coronal mass ejection (CME)
into space -- and somewhat toward Earth.  Friday's CME joins another one
already en route toward our planet.  The pair could trigger auroras (most
likely at high latitudes) when they strike Earth's magnetosphere this
weekend.  Stay tuned to spaceweather.com for updates.

Anyone interested in a work party to set the steel poles for the VOS this Saturday?


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It looks like yahoo clips the addresses. Tom, do you have a complete 
e-mail address for either of the two people you forwarded messages 
from?

   fyi
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

     A s t r o  A l e r t
                               Sun-Earth Alert

                          Solar Terrestrial Dispatch
                            http://www.spacew.com

                                08 April 2001

            CORRECTION - SOLAR REGION 9415 IS A NAKED EYE SPOT GROUP
                  UPDATE TO AURORAL ACTIVITY PROJECTIONS

     Contrary to the last Astroalert, it has come to our attention that 
Region 9415 (now beginning to approach the central solar meridian) is in
fact a naked-eye spot group. We thank Mike Ford of Holton, Kansas for
visually determining this and correcting us.

     Region 9415 has shown minor growth during the last 24 hours, increasing
slightly in spatial size as well as in spot count. The region also continues
to sport a very complex magnetic configuration with very tight magnetic
gradients and strong magnetic shear across the neutral line separating the
two opposite polarity umbrae that are encompassed within a single penumbra (a
potentially flare-prone 'delta' magnetic configuration).

     Observers interested in watching for a white-light flare are encouraged
to pay special attention to the leading (largest) sunspots within the
penumbral zone. White-light events may be possible to observe in that area.
Use moderate to high-power magnification on a well protected telescope
designed to safely observe the white-light from the Sun. Real-time automated
announcements of current x-ray levels that exceed class M1.0 levels are made
via the #solar IRC internet channel (see http://www.spacew.com/irc for
details). Current x-ray fluxes (updated in near-realtime) may also be found
at the Space Environment Center at: http://www.sec.noaa.gov/Data/rt_tab.html
or via advanced software packages such as: http://www.spacew.com/swarm.
As white-light events are fleeting events, watching during a large X-class
flare from Region 9415 will probably be a requirement. We hope these
resources might assist observers in spotting an elusive white-light flare.
Please report any confirmed or suspected sightings to us at: 
STD@....

     A brief update on the status of auroral activity: A small
interplanetary shock impacted the Earth near 17:34 UTC on 07 April. The
event was fairly unimpressive (less than was expected) and is thought to
have originated from a major class M5 solar flare from Region 9415 on 05 
April. The coronal mass ejection (CME) was directed well away from the Earth 
but a minor component of it did impact the Earth. A larger and potentially 
more influential CME is expected to impact the Earth sometime on 08 or 09 
April. Anytime near or after 12:00 UTC on 08 April to the early UTC hours of 
09 April. For North American observers, this translates to roughly anytime 
near or after 8 am EDT to 11 pm EDT.

     Like the CME that was observed today, this next anticipated CME was
also directed mostly to the east of the Earth. But a more significant
portion of the ejected mass is expected to reach the Earth this time. As a
result, there is a better chance the disturbance might produce periods of
increased auroral activity.

     Any coronal mass ejections spawned from Region 9415 over the next 4
days will have a high potential of more directly impacting the Earth.
Additional significant events are expected to occur anytime over the next
several days.


**  End of AstroAlert  **

No one called me, either....:-(    jackie./////

-----Original Message-----
From: dpreston@... [mailto:dpreston@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 7:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: sky show


--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Don't ya just hate it when ya sleep through the way bitchin
aurora?
>

David;
     This is Debbie.  I almost called you--really.  You always used
to call me when this happened long, long ago in the 90's and I
thought about calling you-but I figured you were already outside
and I would wake up the whole household. Next time I'll call.
     David and I were getting ready for bed while listening to Art
Bell.  Art was raving about the aurora at his home in Pahrump,
NV.  David went outside, and sure enough, it was beginning.  It
was spectacular!  I kept coming back in for one more layer of
clothing-it was a little chilly out here in God's country.  We
watched from about 12:10 til about 12:50.  There was a huge
spot of orange and red that hung northeast of our barn for the
length of the entire show.  Then due north, it was mostly red, with
ocassional white, very sharp spikes, some of which extended
beyond zenith (we actually looked a little to the south to see the
end of the spikes.)  As for green, we saw a bit, but not like the
aurora of 91.  It was definitely in the shape of curtains to the
north.  We didn't see much activity towards Lee's Summit.  But
what a show due north and northeast.
    We did talk to Elizabeth Brown in Gladstone.  She watched it
from there.  Also, Linda and Lora saw it from Ruskin Heights.
    Next time, I'll call!
                                                                    Debbie
Harrelson








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Hey Melissa!  I still don't have e-mail but I can spam a note to you 
through this web site.

I have 5 images taken at Powell relating to the NEO project. I can 
upload them here as .JPG, give them to you on diskl, print them out 
black and white on a laser printer, or (gasp) print them out full 
color it you need them that way.

Let me know which will be best for your project needs.

David Young

Yep!!! Sign me up!  jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 7:26 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: sky show


I know we're past solar max now but there seems to be some big spots popping
up. Anyone interested in a calling tree for aurora to be active for the next
few months?


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Sign me up!  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 10:30 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


David:  Year ago, the club had a calling tree for very much the same reason,
I think you were on the list.  I just pulled the last version from the ASKC
history  books.  It was called "ASKC Sky Alert Hotline".  The list consisted
of 6 pages of between 5 to 10 names each.  Those with long distance numbers
had there own page.

We didn't have the internet back then, so the list was a really good way to
get the word out.  Now we probably should not only call but leave an e-mail
to everyone on the list.

We could start one right here on ASKC e-groups.  I'd be willing to maintain
the list.

Here is the write up on the front of the list:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian







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Add me:  913-469-0135.  jackie Beucher.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show


The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline is officially open for membership!  So far we
have the following people:
Tom & Gloria Martinez, 816-213-3959 (cell phone), call anytime
David Young
Eric Flescher, 913-780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg
Dave Hudgins
Scott Kranz
Jim & Susan Ketchum, 816-230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger
Rob Robinson, 913-422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin
Gina Fedon
Gary & Linda Pittman
Larry & Sharon Goode

Notice that some people left the phone number that they want to called at.
I need numbers for the rest of you.  These could be home phones, work
phones, cell phones, etc.  Give the one that would get you anytime, or if
you only want to be called before a certain hour, let me know that.  The
only person who said call anytime was Jim, how about the rest of you?

Once I get more names I will be grouping everyone into shorter lists.  The
list will be posted on the ASKC e-groups, so that anyone with a computer can
get the latest revision.  I will write something up for the Cosmic Messenger
(too late for the next one) so that people who are not on the e-groups will
be aware of it.  I will also find out who does not have a computer and who
is not on e-groups and I'll figure out what to do about them.

Again, here are the reasons for starting a call:
-----------------------------------------
Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
+Supernova in another galaxy
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you can wait until a decent hour to make a call.

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.
-----------------------------------

One thing that was on the list was whether a person could be called anytime,
or between certain hours, or not after a certain hour.

How many people want to be on the list?

Clear Skies,
Tom J. Martinez, ASKC Historian














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e-mail is working again if anyone has tried to reach me but not received and answer try again now.


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Tom,
 We would like to be added to the call list please:
Mark & Karen Grantham to be called anytime.  (816) 765-0206


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I want to be on list

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
913-780-5902

aurora anytime

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Martinez 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: sky show

  Nick would like to be added to the calling list. Call anytime at 913-849-3534


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All ASKC members,
Here is the email I received from Dean Williams who is handling papers for the 
Mid-States Convention in Connway Arkansas June 8-10.  If anyone is interested in
making a presentation at the Convention, contact Dean.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg

On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:47:43 -0500, "Dean Williams" <deanw@...> wrote:

>Please pass the word along to your membership that it is time to prepare
>papers for MSRAL 2001.  We will be in Conway, AR on June 8 - 10.  See
>details at
>http://www.propermotion.com/msral/
>
>Watch the mail for complete convention information going out in the weeks
>ahead.
>
>Dean Williams
>Central Arkansas Astronomical Society
>
>

David: The addresses you have are the only ones I have.  I don't understand
what you mean by Yahoo clipping the addrress????

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: dyoung8@... [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:14 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] inquiries


It looks like yahoo clips the addresses. Tom, do you have a complete
e-mail address for either of the two people you forwarded messages
from?






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Carroll:  I was just going to mention the note from Dean William.  The
"black monolith" from "2001: A Space Odyssey" is a nice touch.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:ciorg@...]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:21 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] (fwd) Call for papers - MSRAL 2001


All ASKC members,
Here is the email I received from Dean Williams who is handling papers for
the
Mid-States Convention in Connway Arkansas June 8-10.  If anyone is
interested in
making a presentation at the Convention, contact Dean.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg

On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:47:43 -0500, "Dean Williams" <deanw@...> wrote:

>Please pass the word along to your membership that it is time to prepare
>papers for MSRAL 2001.  We will be in Conway, AR on June 8 - 10.  See
>details at
>http://www.propermotion.com/msral/
>
>Watch the mail for complete convention information going out in the weeks
>ahead.
>
>Dean Williams
>Central Arkansas Astronomical Society
>
>






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Hey Tom-
I was reading through some of these emails and it seems that we have  lot of people interested in astronomy- that they are looking the web site and looking to the "experts" for answers.  Here is my concern, are the answers that they are getting the answers that they want (becuse I don't know who is answering and what they are saying) and to what technical degree is it being answered.  I posed the question to my parents why the club wasn't doing some things that are "kid" oriented.  The response was that they were, but that there was not too much interest.  So- being the teacher/idealist that I am I am wondering what exactly is the "Program that is being offered and WHERE is it advertised?!  Who is coordinating the educational activities in the club and what are the educational activities planned for the youth?  The kids are really important because they are your future interest group to keep your club alive and successful.  I know that this isn't really your issue Tom- but since you forwarded it on, I thought I would bounce this off you and also hope to get some feed back from others as well.  I am more curious at this point (not argumentative) to see how we are addressing all the youth interests!
Thanks
Beth Goode


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martinez
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:12 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] Another one


Here is another one from someone looking at our website.  It would be nice
if these people would get a variety of responses from ASKC members:

Hello!  We just moved here to KC a few months ago and found on the internet
the ASKC...My son who is only  6 1/2 is very interested in space and
astronomy so I thought this would be a good club to join for us...Is there
many activities that he will benefit from...Do they have a large group of
children involved..If not is there an astronomy club close to KC that
does..Also I would like to get him a telescope, I want a good one that he
can see things from but dont want to spend 500.00 either, can you give me a
brief description on what to look for...if you have a model that is better
than the others that would be great..I noticed the Nature Co. was having a
sale on their telescopes but had no idea what was what...I want to keep him
involved and interested so any info would be appreciated...Thanks  Kim

mjanks1@...






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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Martinez 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] inquiries


  David: The addresses you have are the only ones I have.  I don't understand
  what you mean by Yahoo clipping the addrress

  The e-mail addresses listed in both messages were unusable on this end. For example, this is what was in one of the quoted messages for an address.  mjanks1...

  What is even stranger is that Beth quoted the same message and the full e-mail address came though.   mjanks1@...

  Somewhere along the line part of the address is clipped, maybe by Roadrunner?

  Damn computers!


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 A COMETS ODD ORBIT HINTS AT HIDDEN PLANET

Science News Online, 7 April 2001
>From http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?e17359563&e=6513      

Ron Cowen

Far beyond the solar system's nine known planets, a body as massive as
Mars may once have been part of our planetary system-and it might still
be there.

Although the proposed planet would lie too far away to be seen from
Earth, its gravitational tug could account for the oddball orbit of a
large comet spotted in the outer solar system a year ago.

Known as 2000 CR105, the comet moves about the sun in a much more
elongated pathway than originally thought, astronomers now find.
Observations over the past year by Brett Gladman of the Observatoire de
la Ctte d'Azur in Nice, France, and his colleagues show that the comet's
orbit takes it further than 200 astronomical units (AU) from the sun and
as close as 44 AU. One AU equals the Earth-sun distance of about 150
million kilometers.

Such an oblong orbit is usually a sign that an object has come under the
gravitational influence of a massive body. But 2000 CR105, which may be
an escapee from the distant reservoir of comets known as the Kuiper
belt, never gets anywhere near any of the solar system's familiar team
of nine planets. Even at its closest approach to the sun, the
approximately 400-km-wide ball of ice comes no closer than 14 AU to
Neptune, the nearest known candidate for a significant gravitational
interaction.

The astronomers concede that feeble and random pushes from Neptune could
have slowly nudged 2000 CR105 into its current orbit. However,
preliminary analysis suggests this scenario isn't likely, note Gladman,
Matthew Holman of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in
Cambridge, Mass., and their collaborators.

In an article the researchers recently posted on the Internet
(http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0103435), they suggest that a massive
body lurking among the tiny, frozen residents of the Kuiper belt could
have been the culprit.

That object could have been Neptune itself. According to one theory,
Neptune and Uranus first formed between the orbits of Jupiter and Saturn
and were then flung out to greater distances from the sun.

If that kick propelled Neptune into the Kuiper belt before the planet
settled into its current nearly circular orbit, its gravity could have
caused the orbits of several objects like 2000 CR105 to stretch into
elongated trajectories.

Alternatively, the comet's orbit could be the handiwork of an
as-yet-unseen planet whose mass lies somewhere between that of Earth's
moon and Mars, the researchers say. It's likely that such an object
would have coalesced in the outer solar system from the same debris that
formed Neptune, Uranus, and the cores of Jupiter and Saturn, Holman
notes.

There's only a 1 percent chance that a planet could have survived in the
Kuiper belt or its surroundings over the 4.5-billion-year age of the
solar system, says Holman. If the planet found a secluded nook of the
belt, however, it could remain intact today.

If the proposed planet is as massive as Mars, it would have to lie some
200 AU from the sun-about 7 times Neptune's distance-Holman calculates.
Were it closer, observers would have spotted it.

A planet lurking in the Kuiper belt now or in the past might also
explain why many members of the belt have orbits that angle away from
the plane in which the nine known planets orbit the sun.

"Undoubtedly, something [massive] knocked the hell out of the belt,"
says Harold F. Levison of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder,
Colo. "The question is whether it's there now."

The stability of the orbit of 2000 CR105 suggests that any planet that
influenced the comet's path has long since departed. If astronomers find
a family of objects similar to 2000 CR105, the nature of their orbits
could indicate whether the hidden planet is in fact still there, Levison
says.

>From Science News, Vol. 159, No. 14, Apr. 7, 2001, p. 213.

I have bought two groups of students from KC, KS schools overy the last 
couple of years. I surprised to hear that not many school groups come out. I 
know the groups sign up for star parties but am not sure whether that was 
counted .

We have a great resource here in Kansas. Not many teachers or children know 
about it. We should invite more kids to meetings and if need, even has a 
little presentation before each meeting or after just for kids. I would be 
happy to present or help out. 

My kids are taking pictures of the sky through my Harvard telescope project 
and we hope to have exhibit and presentations by some of my students at the 
R&D forum inMay 8-10. 

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
Gifted Education consultant/ project based learning and technology, Kansas 
City, KS schools
 Project S.I.M. (Simulations, interdisciplinary Internet and Metacognitive 
activities)
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/eclipse.htm -editor- Black Sun 
eclipse newsletter (eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com- Eclipse Train Land cruise June 2001- 
Host/presenter-  http://mayhugh.com/train/train.htm

If you read postings via browser, instead of receiving them daily 
through email, the email addresses ARE clipped. The reason is that 
they even though they are still functional in your browser, the 
spammers cannot harvest them. This is a security measure more than 
anything. As an example I had some slime-ball spammer take the IOTA 
email list I had on the site (800+ amateur & professionals), for 
use of IOTA members only, and for the 2 months spam this whole list a 
dozen times a week with money making scams. After I took the list off 
the website, and demanded of the spammer to cease, they continued. It 
was to the point of legal action (and they knew I was going to sue, 
since my attorney had written letters to all parties concerned - 
spammer AND ISP), before they stopped.


--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tom Martinez 
>   To: ASKC@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:15 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ASKC] inquiries
> 
> 
>   David: The addresses you have are the only ones I have.  I don't 
understand
>   what you mean by Yahoo clipping the addrress
> 
>   The e-mail addresses listed in both messages were unusable on
this 
end. For example, this is what was in one of the quoted messages for 
an address.  mjanks1...
> 
>   What is even stranger is that Beth quoted the same message and
the 
full e-mail address came though.   mjanks1@p...
> 
>   Somewhere along the line part of the address is clipped, maybe by 
Roadrunner?
> 
>   Damn computers!
> 
> 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: webmaster@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:27 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: inquiries


  If you read postings via browser, instead of receiving them daily 
  through email, the email addresses ARE clipped. 

  AHA!  Thanks Walt!  That is exactly what was going on. I was having e-mail problems and was reading the e-groups directly on the yahoo pages. Thanks for clearing up the mystery!


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I'm delighted to see some discussion about what we can do for the
kids.  As most of you know, I am now the chairperson of the 
Educational Committee. We've just kicked off the first of four 
planned "Novice Nights", which I have hoped would be a good way for 
new folks to get started with observing.

I would also like to see some program/activities specifically aimed 
at kids (and families), tho.  I'm open to suggestions.  There are 
lots of things we can do, at Powell Observatory and/or the general 
meeting.  It's picking something and getting it started. How about 
a "kid's corner" in the newsletter for example? 

Also, the Educational Committee is responsible for short 
presentations of basic astronomy/beginning astronomy, at the general 
meeting.  We need ideas and presentors.  

The next meeting of the Committee is Monday, April 23, 7:00pm at 
Jackie Beucher's house.  Come and bring some ideas.  Or e-mail them 
to me at eabrown@....

Other folks have mentioned wanting to do something for kids, too.  
With summertime approaching, let's get something started!

Elizabeth Brown - eabrown@...

I have the following star parties booked. As you can see, a couple of duty pairs have more than one night during their week. We could use some volunteers to help out on the big group on April 25. We also need some people to do April 20, April 27, May 18, and May 25 or 26.

April 14        private- no help needed
April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 25        100 6th graders   Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty, D. Hudgins
April 27        Scouts                Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 28        Astronomy Day

May 12        Member night
May 18        Home school group  Greg North, David Neuenschwander on duty
May 19        Scouts                   Greg North, David Neuenschwander on duty     
May 25        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty
May 26        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty


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How about posting the latest call list and a suggested breakout of about 4 or 5 people per sub group. That would chop up the number of calls a person would be making so they could spend more time observing or driving like mad to dark sky.


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Dave,  I think I can help on the April 25 party.   Dick Trentman

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:06 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] star party


I have the following star parties booked. As you can see, a couple of duty
pairs have more than one night during their week. We could use some
volunteers to help out on the big group on April 25. We also need some
people to do April 20, April 27, May 18, and May 25 or 26.

April 14        private- no help needed
April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 25        100 6th graders   Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty, D.
Hudgins
April 27        Scouts                Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 28        Astronomy Day

May 12        Member night
May 18        Home school group  Greg North, David Neuenschwander on duty
May 19        Scouts                   Greg North, David Neuenschwander on
duty
May 25        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty
May 26        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty


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A special section for kids in each newsletter is a great idea.I hope to put up a web page related to this so it can be accessed- except I can't call it the kids room so I have to think of another name.
 I could write a little article, 10 good astronomy websites for kids or something like that. 
What about a family observing night in which we can have people come down to the observatory or some other nearby place for a picnic or potluck? (on one of those novice nights? or other) and then have observing sessions with telescopes and /or a lecture.

I can see if I can make that meeting .In any case, hope these ideas help.

Dr.Eric Flescher

that is a great idea to post the star parties coming up . I will see if I can help out.Possibly post on the askc sky calendar too? 

Dr.Eric Flescher

Scope ra tweaking at 9:00 at Powell

High alert for aurora early tonight!


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Here is the list of people who have requested to be put on phone call list
whenever a special astronomical event is occuring.  It will get larger as
word gets out, but at least this is a start.  Everyone on the list is on the
ASKCyahoogroups.  Please remember that some events do not require a phone
call right away, you can call at a decent hour or even e-mail everyone.
E-mail addresses will be added at a later date.  If there are any corrects
or additions, let me know.

Tom

_________________________________
The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline:

Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova or Supernova (visible to the unaided eye)
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you should send an e-mail instead of making a phone
call.
For things such as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.

List #1
Tom & Gloria Martinez, (816) 618-3959 or (816) 213-3959 (cell phone), call
anytime
David Young, (913) 631-8413, or (913) 558-1155, call anytime
Eric Flescher, (913) 780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg, Night (816) 444-4878 or Day (816) 922-6024
Dave Hudgins, (913) 681-0992
Scott Kranz, (816) 331-5796

List #2
Jim & Susan Ketchum, (816) 230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger, (816) 619-3309 (home) or (816) 305-7075 (cell phone), call
anytime
Rob Robinson, (913) 422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin (816) 452-2086
Gina Fedon (913) 768-9477
Gary & Linda Pittman, (816) 228-4238, call anytime

List #3
Larry & Sharon Goode, (816) 618 3403, call anytime
Dave Brockway, Night (913) 338-0808, or Day (816) 767-7820, call anytime
David Preston, (816) 690-6591, call anytime
Jackie Beucher, (913) 469-0135, call anytime
Mark & Karen Grantham, (816) 765-0206, call anytime.
Nick Reuss, (913) 849-3534, call anytime

Nick Reuss and Dick Trentman tweaked the alignment and drive rate on the 30" Wednesday night.

After the last software adjustment for RA tracking there was NO noticeable drift in RA after 30 minutes. 

The dec was adjusted with the adjusting bolts on the pier but the clouds moved in before we could take additional test images.

We will try again Saturday if the weather permits.


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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I have the following star parties booked. As you can see, a couple 

<snip>

> April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on 
duty

<snip>


Hey all!!!!!!!

I can't do duty night on the 21st.  I already have other plans.

I will be able to do the 25th party, but need a substitute for the 
21st party.

Can anyone help out?

-Scott

  > April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on 
  duty

  <snip>

  I can't do duty night on the 21st.  I already have other plans.

  I will be able to do the 25th party, but need a substitute for the 
  21st party.


  I'll do the April 21 group Scott.



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Nick would like to know how many people can help us at Powell this Saturday. If we get enough people we will pour the concrete pad for the VOS. The forms and rebar are already in place.


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Are we doing the Telrad dew heater workshop this Saturday 
(14th) afternoon?

Scott


--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Nick would like to know how many people can help us at Powell this 
Saturday. If we get enough people we will pour the concrete pad for 
the VOS. The forms and rebar are already in place.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: skranz@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:08 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: work party?


  Are we doing the Telrad dew heater workshop this Saturday 
  (14th) afternoon?

  Scott

  I believe it is a go for the dew heater workshop.



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David, I can help, but we may need to work around the dew zapper workshop that Kathy had also scheduled. Hey, that should give us even more people!
Dave H.

David Young wrote:

> Nick would like to know how many people can help us at Powell this Saturday. If we get enough people we will pour the concrete pad for the VOS. The forms and rebar are already in place.
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Right!
The Telrad Dew zapper workshop is a go.
We will be doing that, probably pouring concrete
and doing a bit of key-holder training.
Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] work party?


> David, I can help, but we may need to work around the dew zapper workshop
that Kathy had also scheduled. Hey, that should give us even more people!
> Dave H.
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>
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The forms and rebar are already in place.
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I can try to help out but just got to clear with my wife. :)
 what time and how much time will it take? I could especially have a chance 
if I can hitch a ride with someone possibly if she needs the van.
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

Vic was not able to make the board meeting, and has been up and down 
on his Internet connection.
He wanted me to post this message and remind everyone of ASTRONOMY DAY 
, April 28th and the KC Zoo. We will be on the patio of the Sprint 
IMAX Theater. 
Set up time is around 9:30 AM. 
The service entrance will be open and available for those needing to 
use carts and elevators to transport equipment.
We will be there until around 3:30 - 4:00pm.
General Meeting is also this night with Bob Gent as guest speaker, so 
there are no planned activities for Powell Observatory after leaving 
the zoo.
Any questions, call Vic.

Please put me on the call list for aurora only (but also include any 
advance notifications of end of the world asteroid discoveries!) that 
will allow me time to buy (charge) my Ferrari.

Call anytime.

Elizabeth Brown

> 
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--- In ASKC@y..., KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> A special section for kids in each newsletter is a great idea.I 
hope to put up a web page related to this so it can be accessed- 
except I can't call it the kids room so I have to think of another 
name.
>  I could write a little article, 10 good astronomy websites for 
kids or something like that. 
> What about a family observing night in which we can have people 
come down to the observatory or some other nearby place for a picnic 
or potluck? (on one of those novice nights? or other) and then have 
observing sessions with telescopes and /or a lecture.
> 
> I can see if I can make that meeting .In any case, hope these ideas 
help.
> 
> Dr.Eric Flescher

From Elizabeth:

The newsletter can always use articles that's for sure!  Go for it!  
Maybe we could call it "Young Astronomer's Corner" or "For the 
Younger Stars", something like that.

Hopefully, folks of all ages know that they can come to the Novice 
Nights.

There's lots to discuss.  I'll run these ideas past the Educational 
Committee on Monday, April 23 when we meet at Jackie Beucher's house 
at 7PM.  Hope to see you there!  And others who might be interested 
in joining the Committee.....

Eliz

Dick Trentman and I made a significant improvement in the 30" polar alignment
last night.  (Ok, so I mostly just held the flashlight.)  There's still plenty of
room for more improvement, but the East-West alignment is better than it was.
The R.A. tracking rate still looks great so 1 minute exposures should be possible
now with the ST-9.

Kyle

Heads up people. This could be a good one.
               /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                   MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING

                       ISSUED: 05:10 UTC, 13 APRIL 2001

                /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

            *** POTENTIAL FOR MODERATE TO HIGH ACTIVITY EXISTS ***


VALID BEGINNING AT: 18:00 UTC ON 13 APRIL
VALID UNTIL: 19:00 UTC ON 16 APRIL

    HIGH RISK PERIOD: 14 - 15 APRIL (UTC DAYS)
MODERATE RISK PERIOD: 13 - 16 APRIL

PREDICTED ACTIVITY INDICES: 15, 40, 50, 20 (13 APRIL - 16 APRIL)

POTENTIAL MAGNITUDE OF MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY:  MODERATE TO 
HIGH

POTENTIAL DURATION OF THIS ACTIVITY: MAIN BELT = 2 BELTS OF ~ 12-18 
HOURS EACH
                                    MINOR BELT = 48 HOURS

ESTIMATED OPTIMUM OBSERVING CONDITIONS: PRIOR TO AND NEAR LOCAL 
MIDNIGHT

EXPECTED LUNAR INTERFERENCE: NONE PRIOR TO MOONRISE, MODERATE AFTER 
MOONRISE

OVERALL OPPORTUNITY FOR OBSERVATIONS FROM MIDDLE LATITUDES: FAIR TO 
GOOD

AURORAL ACTIVITY *MAY* BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE 
FROM...

   NORTHERN TO POSSIBLY CENTRAL CALIFORNIA TO NEVADA TO NORTHERN 
ARIZONA TO
   NEW MEXICO TO NORTHERN TEXAS TO OKLAHOMA TO SOUTHERN ARKANSAS TO
   MISSISSIPPI TO ALABAMA TO GEORGIA TO SOUTH CAROLINA (*IF* AND 
*ONLY IF*
   FAVORABLE SOLAR WIND CONDITIONS DEVELOP OVER NORTH AMERICA PRIOR TO
   MOONRISE). A MORE REALISTIC EXPECTATION MAY BE A LINE ROUGHLY 
NORTH OF
   OREGON TO SOUTHERN IDAHO TO SOUTHERN WYOMING TO NEBRASKA TO IOWA TO
   ILLINOIS TO INDIANA TO KENTUCKY TO WEST VERGINIA TO CENTRAL 
VIRGINIA.

(This is the same line used in the last warning - it is valid for 
this event.)


ACTIVITY *MAY* ALSO BE OBSERVED APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM...

   NORTHERN SPAIN TO SOUTHERN FRANCE TO NORTHERN ITALY TO SLOVENIA TO
   NORTHERN CROATIA TO NORTHERN YUGOSLAVIA TO ROMANIA TO SOUTHERN 
UKRAINE TO
   SOUTH-WESTERN RUSSIA APPROXIMATELY NORTH OF A LINE FROM VORONEZH TO
   SARANSK TO KAZAN TO PERM AND EAST-CENTRAL RUSSIA (*IF* AND *ONLY 
IF*
   FAVORABLE SOLAR WIND CONDITIONS DEVELOP OVER EUROPE AND RUSSIA 
PRIOR TO
   MOONRISE). A MORE REALISTIC EXPECTATION MAY BE A LINE ROUGHLY 
NORTH OF
   NORTHERN FRANCE TO CENTRAL GERMANY TO SOUTH-CENTRAL POLAND TO 
SOUTHERN
   BELARUS TO SOUTH OF MOSCOW TO KIROV TO OTHER NORTHERN TO NORTH-
CENTRAL
   RUSSIAN REGIONS.

(This is the same line used in the last warning - it is valid for 
this event.)


SYNOPSIS...

     Two additional Earthward-directed coronal mass ejections (CMEs) 
have
been observed during the last 24 hours. The first CME is expected to 
impact
sometime late on 13 April or early on 14 April (UTC days). The second 
and
potentially larger CME is expected to arrive late on 14 April or 
early on 15
April (again, UTC time). Either (or both) of these events have the 
potential
to produce periods of moderate to strong auroral storming.

     Observers are encouraged to watch for activity on these dates. 
For North
American observers, best opportunities will be during the 
evening/morning
hours of 13/14 April and again during the evening/morning hours of 
14/15
April. This latter period (14/15 April) could see the strongest 
auroral
storming. However, either disturbances should be capable of producing 
storm
levels of auroral activity that may be visible well into the middle 
latitude
regions of portions of the Earth.

     The waning phase of the moon will improve the visibility and 
duration of
dark-sky observations during these dates. Observations prior to 
midnight or
shortly thereafter should produce the most impressive sites of any 
visible
activity.

     The active sunspot region that has been responsible for the 
deluge of
auroral storming over the last several days is moving out of position 
and
will become much less capable of producing Earth-directed CME impacts 
as it
begins to approach the western limb of the Sun in the coming days.

     This warning will remain in effect until 19:00 UTC on 16 April. 
It
will then be updated or allowed to expire.

  For Real-Time News and Discussions with Experienced Aurora 
Photographers:
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Does anyone know when the Telrad zapper workshop is starting tomorrow? 
Also, what time does the keyholder training start?

See ya Saturday at the 'zerbatory,
David

David ---- Zapper  workshop starting at 2PM, but  Kathy and Gil will be out
there earlier. Dave H.

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> Does anyone know when the Telrad zapper workshop is starting tomorrow?
> Also, what time does the keyholder training start?
>
> See ya Saturday at the 'zerbatory,
> David
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  Subject: [ASKC] Telrad zapper and Keyholder training


  Does anyone know when the Telrad zapper workshop is starting tomorrow? 
  Also, what time does the keyholder training start?


  Typical start time is high noon but there will be people there before that working on various projects including the VOS.  

  I picked up a free 486 computer with cd-rom, monitor, yada, yada, yada. Do you suppose Debbie has a use for it. Another little guy or the school? 



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2 pm But we will be down before that.
                                                                    Gil
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  A s t r o  A l e r t
                               Sun-Earth Alert

                          Solar Terrestrial Dispatch
                            http://www.spacew.com

                                12 April 2001

                       MAJOR X-CLASS SOLAR FLARE ALERT
                   MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING

                         Supporting Discussion Forum:
                      http://www.spacew.com/aurora/forum

                      Real-time Discussions with Others:
                          http://www.spacew.com/irc

     A major class X2.0 solar flare erupted from active sunspot Region 9415
on 12 April at 10:28 UTC (12:28 pm EDT). This flare was associated with
another full halo (Earthward-directed) coronal mass ejection (CME). This was
preceded on 11 April by a minor solar flare that also produced an
Earthward-directed coronal mass ejection.

     The first CME to impact the Earth is expected to be from the minor solar
flare that occurred on 11 April and it should arrive sometime during the late
UTC hours of 13 April or early in the UTC day of 14 April (anytime after
18:00 UTC or 2 pm EDT) . The second coronal mass ejection from the X-class
flare of 12 April should be somewhat stronger and should arrive late on 14
April or early on 15 April (UTC time).

     Either (or both) of these events have the potential to produce periods
of moderate to strong auroral activity. The moon's waning phase and later
rise-times should permit longer periods of observations under less light
polluted conditions, even into the early morning hours for most regions.

     Observers should not underestimate the potential for possible strong
levels of auroral storming late on 13 through 15 April. The last major
disturbance (on 11 April) produced strong levels of auroral activity that
became visible well into central Europe. Unfortunately, the disturbance
subsided as North America became dark. Nevertheless, many areas of the
east-coast of the United States spotted strong levels of activity as well.
Similar conditions are expected during either (or perhaps both) of these
events.

     North American observers are encouraged to get out and look for activity
during the evening/morning hours of 13/14 April and again on 14/15 April. The
activity on 14/15 April may be the strongest.

Both names are good. I will see what I can cook up. What at the directions to 
Kathy's house? I will see if I can make. 
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

From Elizabeth:

The newsletter can always use articles that's for sure!  Go for it!  
Maybe we could call it "Young Astronomer's Corner" or "For the 
Younger Stars", something like that.

Hopefully, folks of all ages know that they can come to the Novice 
Nights.

There's lots to discuss.  I'll run these ideas past the Educational 
Committee on Monday, April 23 when we meet at Jackie Beucher's house 
at 7PM.  Hope to see you there!  And others who might be interested 
in joining the Committee.....

From Elizabeth:

The newsletter can always use articles that's for sure!  Go for it!  
Maybe we could call it "Young Astronomer's Corner" or "For the 
Younger Stars", something like that.

Hopefully, folks of all ages know that they can come to the Novice 
Nights.

There's lots to discuss.  I'll run these ideas past the Educational 
Committee on Monday, April 23 when we meet at Jackie Beucher's house 
at 7PM.  Hope to see you there!  And others who might be interested 
in joining the Committee.....

Eliz



 >>

Weather does not look good for the early morning Sunday graze of 
SAO188439 which can be seen on a line from Desoto Ks to NW Olathe.
I will be monitoring the weather conditions through tomorrow morning 
and will check site availabilities. I will make a decision NO LATER 
than 4:00 PM, whether we will attempt this graze or not..
Forecast calls for clouds and rain moving in tomorrow evening around 
sunset, with showers throughout the night, and clearing out sometime 
Sunday.
Those on the list include:
Bob Sandy
Nick Reuss
David Neuenschwander
Shelley Granger
Bill All
Joe Wright

Thanks for your work on this Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:47 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] ASKC Sky Alert Hotline list


Here is the list of people who have requested to be put on phone call list
whenever a special astronomical event is occuring.  It will get larger as
word gets out, but at least this is a start.  Everyone on the list is on the
ASKCyahoogroups.  Please remember that some events do not require a phone
call right away, you can call at a decent hour or even e-mail everyone.
E-mail addresses will be added at a later date.  If there are any corrects
or additions, let me know.

Tom

_________________________________
The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline:

Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:
*Aurora
*Unusually heavy meteor shower
*White light solar flares
*Nova or Supernova (visible to the unaided eye)
+Television broadcast of a special astronomical event
+Special meetings or lectures by well known persons
+New comet, magnitude 9 or dimmer
*New comet, magnitude 8 or brighter and is expected to get brighter
*Unusual events on a planet
+Naked eye sunspot

An asterik (*) means a call should be made right away.
A plus sign (+) means you should send an e-mail instead of making a phone
call.
For things such as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.

List #1
Tom & Gloria Martinez, (816) 618-3959 or (816) 213-3959 (cell phone), call
anytime
David Young, (913) 631-8413, or (913) 558-1155, call anytime
Eric Flescher, (913) 780-5902
Carroll & Betty Iorg, Night (816) 444-4878 or Day (816) 922-6024
Dave Hudgins, (913) 681-0992
Scott Kranz, (816) 331-5796

List #2
Jim & Susan Ketchum, (816) 230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger, (816) 619-3309 (home) or (816) 305-7075 (cell phone), call
anytime
Rob Robinson, (913) 422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin (816) 452-2086
Gina Fedon (913) 768-9477
Gary & Linda Pittman, (816) 228-4238, call anytime

List #3
Larry & Sharon Goode, (816) 618 3403, call anytime
Dave Brockway, Night (913) 338-0808, or Day (816) 767-7820, call anytime
David Preston, (816) 690-6591, call anytime
Jackie Beucher, (913) 469-0135, call anytime
Mark & Karen Grantham, (816) 765-0206, call anytime.
Nick Reuss, (913) 849-3534, call anytime







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Elizabeth/Eric:

I think having articles in the Cosmic Messenger about programs and activities 
for kids is a great idea. However, I do not plan to add a special children's 
section or a regular children's feature. 

Fiske


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Kyle:

I'm confident you handled that flashlight with aplomb and expertise! :-)

Good work on the scope.

Fiske


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Here is the latest ASKC Sky Alert Hotline list.  New people have been added.
Whenever this happens you will receive a new list via e-mail and the
ASKCyahoogroups website as a message and a two files (text and Word 6.0) on
the website itself.

I have also made some changes to the reasons for making a call.  I have
deleted everything except:

Aurora
Unusually heavy meteor shower
Nova or Supernova (visible to the naked eye)
New comet, magnitude 6 or brighter and is expected to get brighter.

I have e-mail addresses for everyone on the list except Mark & Karen
Grantham, so until I get their e-mail address, they will have to get the new
lists on the ASKCyahoogroups.

Print the list and keep it by your phone.

Thanks, and clear skies,
Tom Martinez
----------------------------------------------

The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline:

Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like to be called whenever as
astronomical event of important significance is occurring.  This is not a
phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear tonight, lets do some
observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be used for are:

Aurora
Unusually heavy meteor shower
Nova or Supernova (visible to the unaided eye)
New comet, magnitude 6 or brighter and is expected to get brighter

When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and comets, give as much
information as possible, such as coordinates, magnitude estimates, etc.

Call the first person at the top of each list, give them the pertinent
information, they will call the person below them on the list.  If you can't
reach the first person, or if you get a child or a recorder, give the child
or the recorder the information, then call the next person after him or her.

List #1
Tom & Gloria Martinez, (816) 618-3959 or (816) 213-3959 (cell phone), call
anytime
David Young, (913) 631-8413, or (913) 558-1155, call anytime
Eric Flescher, (913) 780-5902, call anytime
Carroll & Betty Iorg, Night (816) 444-4878 or Day (816) 922-6024
Dave Hudgins, (913) 681-0992
Scott Kranz, (816) 331-5796
Elizabeth Brown, (816) 452-6095

List #2
Jim & Susan Ketchum, (816) 230--5750, call anytime
Shelley Granger, (816) 619-3309 (home) or (816) 305-7075 (cell phone), call
anytime
Rob Robinson, (913) 422-1262
Gil & Kathy Machin (816) 452-2086
Gina Fedon (913) 768-9477
Gary & Linda Pittman, (816) 228-4238, call anytime
John & Pat Allen, (816) 618-7035

List #3
Larry & Sharon Goode, (816) 618 3403, call anytime
Dave Brockway, Night (913) 338-0808, or Day (816) 767-7820, call anytime
David Preston, (816) 690-6591, call anytime
Jackie Beucher, (913) 469-0135, call anytime
Mark & Karen Grantham, (816) 765-0206, call anytime.
Nick Reuss, (913) 849-3534, call anytime

Tom: I would like to be added to the
list------>>>>>>>>>> Bill Boyle; 816-836-8477 call
anytime..............       thanks; Bill
--- Tom Martinez <martinez@...> wrote:
> 
> Here is the latest ASKC Sky Alert Hotline list.  New
> people have been added.
> Whenever this happens you will receive a new list
> via e-mail and the
> ASKCyahoogroups website as a message and a two files
> (text and Word 6.0) on
> the website itself.
> 
> I have also made some changes to the reasons for
> making a call.  I have
> deleted everything except:
> 
> Aurora
> Unusually heavy meteor shower
> Nova or Supernova (visible to the naked eye)
> New comet, magnitude 6 or brighter and is expected
> to get brighter.
> 
> I have e-mail addresses for everyone on the list
> except Mark & Karen
> Grantham, so until I get their e-mail address, they
> will have to get the new
> lists on the ASKCyahoogroups.
> 
> Print the list and keep it by your phone.
> 
> Thanks, and clear skies,
> Tom Martinez
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> The ASKC Sky Alert Hotline:
> 
> Sky Alert is  a list of ASKC members who would like
> to be called whenever as
> astronomical event of important significance is
> occurring.  This is not a
> phone list for everyday things such as "It is clear
> tonight, lets do some
> observing".  Some of the reasons this list should be
> used for are:
> 
> Aurora
> Unusually heavy meteor shower
> Nova or Supernova (visible to the unaided eye)
> New comet, magnitude 6 or brighter and is expected
> to get brighter
> 
> When calling on such things as novae, supernovae and
> comets, give as much
> information as possible, such as coordinates,
> magnitude estimates, etc.
> 
> Call the first person at the top of each list, give
> them the pertinent
> information, they will call the person below them on
> the list.  If you can't
> reach the first person, or if you get a child or a
> recorder, give the child
> or the recorder the information, then call the next
> person after him or her.
> 
> List #1
> Tom & Gloria Martinez, (816) 618-3959 or (816)
> 213-3959 (cell phone), call
> anytime
> David Young, (913) 631-8413, or (913) 558-1155, call
> anytime
> Eric Flescher, (913) 780-5902, call anytime
> Carroll & Betty Iorg, Night (816) 444-4878 or Day
> (816) 922-6024
> Dave Hudgins, (913) 681-0992
> Scott Kranz, (816) 331-5796
> Elizabeth Brown, (816) 452-6095
> 
> List #2
> Jim & Susan Ketchum, (816) 230--5750, call anytime
> Shelley Granger, (816) 619-3309 (home) or (816)
> 305-7075 (cell phone), call
> anytime
> Rob Robinson, (913) 422-1262
> Gil & Kathy Machin (816) 452-2086
> Gina Fedon (913) 768-9477
> Gary & Linda Pittman, (816) 228-4238, call anytime
> John & Pat Allen, (816) 618-7035
> 
> List #3
> Larry & Sharon Goode, (816) 618 3403, call anytime
> Dave Brockway, Night (913) 338-0808, or Day (816)
> 767-7820, call anytime
> David Preston, (816) 690-6591, call anytime
> Jackie Beucher, (913) 469-0135, call anytime
> Mark & Karen Grantham, (816) 765-0206, call anytime.
> Nick Reuss, (913) 849-3534, call anytime
> 
> 


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> Scott Kranz, (816) 331-5796

<snip>



Tom,

Add my cell phone number please also.  I just realized that most 
nights i am on the internet and cannot be reached to the above number.  
Leave that one on and just add my cell-phone  816-522-8921

Thanks!

Bill:  Okay, I've added you to the bottom of list #3
Scott: Okay, I've added your cell phone #

There are now 21 people on the ASKC Hotline List.  Everyone on the list,
except the Granthams, since I don't have their e-mal address,  should
recieve an e-mail with these new additions.  Please add these to your print
out or make another print and place it by your phone.  The file at
ASKCyahoogroups has been corrected also.

Tom

Elizabeth:     I think your idea of having a "kid's
corner" in the Cosmic Messenger is an excellent one.
Let me know if I can help by writing an article for
"kid's corner"........ (should also include a part of
the General Meeting for children's astronomical
education)........ let me know what you
think............ later        Bill Boyle
--- eabrown@... wrote:
> I'm delighted to see some discussion about what we
> can do for the
> kids.  As most of you know, I am now the chairperson
> of the 
> Educational Committee. We've just kicked off the
> first of four 
> planned "Novice Nights", which I have hoped would be
> a good way for 
> new folks to get started with observing.
> 
> I would also like to see some program/activities
> specifically aimed 
> at kids (and families), tho.  I'm open to
> suggestions.  There are 
> lots of things we can do, at Powell Observatory
> and/or the general 
> meeting.  It's picking something and getting it
> started. How about 
> a "kid's corner" in the newsletter for example? 
> 
> Also, the Educational Committee is responsible for
> short 
> presentations of basic astronomy/beginning
> astronomy, at the general 
> meeting.  We need ideas and presentors.  
> 
> The next meeting of the Committee is Monday, April
> 23, 7:00pm at 
> Jackie Beucher's house.  Come and bring some ideas. 
> Or e-mail them 
> to me at eabrown@....
> 
> Other folks have mentioned wanting to do something
> for kids, too.  
> With summertime approaching, let's get something
> started!
> 
> Elizabeth Brown - eabrown@...
> 
> 


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Does anyone know what happened at the Louisburg City Council Meeting 
last night?

They was suppose to be a presentation on the new lights that will go 
into softball fields "B" and "C".

-Scott

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All volunteers for Astronomy DAy Saturday 4/28 at the Zoo:

Members who signed up for the Solar Max event on 3/3 may remember that I
published instructions for getting to the dock area to unload your telescope
equipment.  

Larry Goode, one of the organizers of Astronomy Day this year, asked if I would
repost those directions for use by the Astronomy Day participants.

For you who have not participated in previous Astronomy Days at the zoo, here
are the directions for getting to the dock area behind the IMAX, where
we can bring our equipment in.

On the north side of the Zoo off 63rd street there is a zoo entrance on the
south side of 63rd called the IMAX entrance.  When you turn in there, go about
.2 mile to the very first road to the left.  There is a zoo building immediately
in front of you when you turn in.

The road veers to the left.  Drive slowly as the road is bumpy and may be muddy.
You will travel about .3 mile on this road until you come to the back end of the
IMAX.  You may park your car here while you get unloaded.  There are double
doors there
that should be unlocked for you to bring your equipment through.  First take the
elevator and come upstairs to get dolllys for your equipment.  As I recall, the
IMAX lobby is one floor up.

After unloading your equipment, you'll need to park your vehicle in the lot
(there is a parking lot  just adjacent to the back of the IMAX, but you'll need
to drive back out the road you came in on in order  to get to it.).

Carroll Iorg

Anyone see the Aurora this morning around 1:00 AM local (6:00 UTC)? I 
was finishing an observing run. My Goto battery went dead and I was 
staring to tear down, when I noticed a brightening in the North. 
There were subtle ribbons forming and reforming. They were so subtle 
I don't think they would have been visible with any light polution, 
at all. Fortunately, I was at a fairly dark site. I couldn't make out 
any decernable color. I didn't call anyone, because I wasn't near a 
telephone. Besides, by the time I would have called, it would have 
been over. It only lasted about 5 minutes. I kept watching for almost 
45 min., but nothing else appeared. Was fun to watch, even so.

Keep looking up,

Jim

Hi All,

Sunspot 9393 is rotating back to the Earth-facing side of the Sun. 
Let's hope we're in for another round of fireworks...

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick

Jim:  I was sound asleep.  I checked around 5 am when I left for work, but
didn't see anything.

Richard:  Yeah, I saw sunspot 9393 peeking around the corner (on the SOHO
website).  It's had to tell if it's lost any size at this point.  Hopefully
it will churn up some flares.  Wouldn't you know it, here comes the clouds.

Tom

Sundays are often lazy days, a good time to turn off the alarm clock 
and sleep late. But this Sunday is different. Before dawn on April 
22nd early risers can spy the first meteor shower of the 2001 
observing season: the Lyrids.

"This is a good year for the Lyrids because the Moon will be almost 
New when the shower peaks," says astronomy professor George Lebo, a 
2001 NASA/Marshall Summer Faculty Fellow. "Barring urban light 
pollution, the skies should be plenty dark."

Typical Lyrid meteors are about as bright as the stars in the Big 
Dipper, which makes this shower a good one for beginners. Experienced 
meteor watchers recall many brilliant Lyrid fireballs from years past. 
Such meteors, which are brighter than Venus, often leave behind  
persistent trains" -- that is, smoky trails that can linger in the 
night sky for minutes.

The best time to watch, no matter where you live, will be during the 
hours before dawn on Sunday between about 2 a.m. and 5 a.m. local 
time. Simply go outside and look up, generally toward the north. Sky 
watchers in rural areas should spot a shooting star every few minutes.

Lyrid meteors appear to stream from a point in the sky (called "the 
radiant") near Vega -- a brilliant blue-white star about three times 
wider than our Sun. Around 14,000 years ago Earth's wandering spin 
axis pointed toward Vega -- it, not Polaris, was the North Star. More 
recently Vega gained fame as an important star in Carl Sagan's movie 
Contact. If you live at mid-northern latitudes,Vega will lie almost 
directly overhead before the Sun rises on Sunday morning.

Although Lyrid meteors seem to streak away from the vicinity of Vega, 
they have nothing to do with that distant star, which is 25 light 
years away. Lyrid meteoroids are bits of dusty debris shed by comet 
Thatcher here within our solar system. Earth plows through Thatcher's 
debris stream with a relative velocity of 49 km/s (110,000 mph!). 
Meteoroids --usually no bigger than grains of sand-- strike Earth's 
atmosphere and disintegrate as fiery streaks of light.

The Lyrid shower is prone to occasional outbursts. Most years in April 
there are no more than 10 to 15 meteors per hour during the shower's 
peak. But sometimes, when Earth glides through an unusually dense  
lump of comet Thatcher's debris, the rate increases. For instance, sky 
watchers in 1982 spotted 90 Lyrids per hour. An even more impressive 
outburst was documented in 1803.

What will the Lyrids do in 2001? The only way to know for sure is to 
go outside on Sunday morning and look up!

Not many know about this returning comet Honda- mrkos- pajdusakova. It it is 
now in Taurus passing by the Pleiades. It is about 10th magnitude.

After hunting for about week, I found what I think is HMP on two images I 
took last night.
I will post on my site.

Also my middle school students at 3 schools  have been taking pictures with 
Havard telescopes and using filters. We will present our findings at the 
Kansas City, KS Research and Development forum on May 8-10. The title of the 
project "The Effect of Telescope Filters on Photographic/ Images taken of 
Celestial Objects" part of my project A.S.S.E.T. - Adopt a Space, School or 
Earth quadrat. 

Once they have presented I may bring the set ups to the next meeting. 
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 
astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1914638%255E1702,00.html

Fireball stuns sky watchers
Australia Associated Press
April 20, 2001

14:22 (AEST) - A BRIGHT flash in the sky captivated scores of people across
Western Australia last night, who witnessed what may have been dust shed by
a comet thousands of years ago.

Perth Observatory astronomer Jamie Biggs said the event was seen as far
north as Dandaragan, 170 kilometres north of Perth, and as far south as
Albany, 410 kilometres south of Perth.

Full story here:

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1914638%255E1702,00.html

I have a scout group tonight at Powell but the observatory will be available for observing/asteroid imaging/meteor watch warm-up after they leave.

It's starting to look like it may even be clear!


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Tonight's cloud party is cancelled. Maybe it will clear later?  Fat chance.


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Check this out. Just found this site with interesting meteor and asteroid 
info.  Still checking on it. More later.
http://www.discovery.com/stories/science/meteors/meteors.html

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
  http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/asteroidpics.htm
  http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm

Hi Everyone --  I had a call from TS Pennington who is one my team.  Seems
he had a quick little EKG at a campus wellness seminar, and -- he has some
major heart problems.  In the next week or two, he will be going in the
hospital for a quintuple bypass!  And even given that, he may even be at our
general meeting next weekend.

Problem -- He was going to do the program on galaxies for me on Team Three's
May 19th night at Powell Observatory.  I will be gone to Bolivia on that
weekend.  So, we need TWO subs for TS and me for that night -- someone to
give the program, especially.  Any one out there available?  I can do one of
your nights for you -- just let me know...

Thanks -- Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:06 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] star party


I have the following star parties booked. As you can see, a couple of duty
pairs have more than one night during their week. We could use some
volunteers to help out on the big group on April 25. We also need some
people to do April 20, April 27, May 18, and May 25 or 26.

April 14        private- no help needed
April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 25        100 6th graders   Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty, D.
Hudgins
April 27        Scouts                Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
April 28        Astronomy Day

May 12        Member night
May 18        Home school group  Greg North, David Neuenschwander on duty
May 19        Scouts                   Greg North, David Neuenschwander on
duty
May 25        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty
May 26        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty


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Jackie - Unless you have found someone already, I will be happy to do a Galaxy
Program at Powell on May 19 for you. Just let me know! : ^ ). (Hmmmm, lemme dig
up some of all those slides I copied from you, heh-heh!!)   But who will be
coordinating the rest of the team?
Dave Huudgins

Jackie Beucher wrote:

> Hi Everyone --  I had a call from TS Pennington who is one my team.  Seems
> he had a quick little EKG at a campus wellness seminar, and -- he has some
> major heart problems.  In the next week or two, he will be going in the
> hospital for a quintuple bypass!  And even given that, he may even be at our
> general meeting next weekend.
>
> Problem -- He was going to do the program on galaxies for me on Team Three's
> May 19th night at Powell Observatory.  I will be gone to Bolivia on that
> weekend.  So, we need TWO subs for TS and me for that night -- someone to
> give the program, especially.  Any one out there available?  I can do one of
> your nights for you -- just let me know...
>
> Thanks -- Jackie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:06 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] star party
>
> I have the following star parties booked. As you can see, a couple of duty
> pairs have more than one night during their week. We could use some
> volunteers to help out on the big group on April 25. We also need some
> people to do April 20, April 27, May 18, and May 25 or 26.
>
> April 14        private- no help needed
> April 21        20 scouts            Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
> April 25        100 6th graders   Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty, D.
> Hudgins
> April 27        Scouts                Scott Kranz, Tony Kostuzak on duty
> April 28        Astronomy Day
>
> May 12        Member night
> May 18        Home school group  Greg North, David Neuenschwander on duty
> May 19        Scouts                   Greg North, David Neuenschwander on
> duty
> May 25        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty
> May 26        Scouts                Marty Peters, Nick Reuss on duty
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
>
>
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I got received this today.  I hope there is someone out there who can help
this lady out:

I work for St. Joseph's Church in Shawnee, KS.  Every summer,
we put on a vacation bible school for the kids.  This year's theme is on
outer space exploration and we'd be interested in getting a speaker from
ASKC to give a brief talk to the kids.  The camp is scheduled for the week
of June 11th; we're looking for a speaker for either 6/12, 13, or 14.  Camp
runs in the mornings and speakers would be scheduled for @9:30 am, with a 5
min (or so) talk and another 5-10 mins for Q&A from the kids.  We usually
have about 100 kids, ranging in age from 4-10 years old. Possible topics -
how to look for the space station or basic astronomy (like the big
dipper,etc.).  Is this something ASKC could help us with or could you
recommend a local group that could help?
Thanks - Joyce McGhee

McGheeFamily [McGheeFamily@...]

Has anyone seen Comet Schaumasse yet?  It is at about 10.3 magnitude inbetween Auriga and Gemini. 
It's moving to the east-northeast at about 1 degree a day.  I wanted to hunt it down Saturday night
but the clouds took that option away.  Guide shows that it should have a nice little tail right now
that is pointed in the direction of travel.

Just checking if anyone has seen it yet.

-scott

KCStarguy@... wrote:
> 
> Not many know about this returning comet Honda- mrkos- pajdusakova. It it is
> now in Taurus passing by the Pleiades. It is about 10th magnitude.
> 
> After hunting for about week, I found what I think is HMP on two images I
> took last night.
> I will post on my site.
> 
> Also my middle school students at 3 schools  have been taking pictures with
> Havard telescopes and using filters. We will present our findings at the
> Kansas City, KS Research and Development forum on May 8-10. The title of the
> project "The Effect of Telescope Filters on Photographic/ Images taken of
> Celestial Objects" part of my project A.S.S.E.T. - Adopt a Space, School or
> Earth quadrat.
> 
> Once they have presented I may bring the set ups to the next meeting.
> Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
> astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
> 
> 
> 
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I've been trying to photograph it for a week but still no luck. Meanwhile I 
did catch Honda-Mrkos-Pajjdusakova which is in Taurus . Many do not know 
about it. It's about the same magnitude.
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/eclipse.htm -editor- Black Sun 
eclipse newsletter (eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com- Eclipse Train Land cruise June 2001- 
Host/presenter-  http://mayhugh.com/train/train.htm

Message: 4
   Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:05:25 -0500
   From: Scott Kranz <skranz@...>
Subject: Re: comet

Has anyone seen Comet Schaumasse yet?  It is at about 10.3 magnitude 
inbetween Auriga and Gemini. 
It's moving to the east-northeast at about 1 degree a day.  I wanted to hunt 
it down Saturday night
but the clouds took that option away.  Guide shows that it should have a nice 
little tail right now
that is pointed in the direction of travel.

Just checking if anyone has seen it yet.

-scott
 >>

More tweaks on the 30" polar alignment, made by Dick Trentman and
myself.  (This time I used a dry-erase marker on the whiteboard while he
used some sort of metal tool on the those scary-looking parts of the
telescope.)  Checking the tracking with the ST9, and with the scope
aimed on the meridian and the celestial equator, we improved the drift
in declination from about 2.5 pixels per minute to about 1.0 pixel per
minute.  Why not 0.0 pixels per minute?  Well, the scope mount doesn't
exactly respond linearly to polar alignment adjustments, so it takes
many small adjustments, evaluating the effect on tracking after each
adjustment, which makes it all rather time consuming.  It's likely that
the alignment can be improved further, it will just take more time on
another day.  And what about alignment in the other other direction,
with the scope aimed near the horizon, say those of you experienced with
equatorial mounts?  Yes, the vertical alignment could use some
adjustment as well, but it was not nearly as far out of alignment as the
horizontal.  The two errors are similar in size now.

Last time we improved the alignment I claimed that 60 second exposures
were possible, which turned out to be stretching the truth a bit.  After
these latest adjustments, 60 second exposures both near the meridian and
near the horizon showed essentially round star images.  90 second
exposures gave star images which were noticibly egg-shaped, but perhaps
still usable for astrometry.  120 second exposures gave "oh what
happened?"-shaped star images.

Kyle

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I just posted a finder chart for comets Schaumasse (currently mag. 
10.3) and Honda-Mrkos-Pajdusakova (currently mag. 12).

The chart shows the positions at 9pm CDT for the next 10 days.

You probably will need at least a 8" scope in dark skies to pull these 
2 out visually.  But give it a try.  It's pretty cool when you 
actually do find them.

I can't wait for the next Hyakutake or Hale-Bopp, but until then, 
these will have to do.

BTW, Comet McNaught-Hartley is still at mag 10.3 up in the bend in 
Draco just north of his head.  It's quite a bit later in the evening, 
and starting to dim fast.

My apologies in advance for the second one but I just can't help myself. My darling daughter sent me a list of words formed by changing a single letter in a real word. They are accompanied by their definitions. Two of them just struck me as extremely descriptive of several moments in my life today.

Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when the come
at you rapidly.

Ignoranus; A person who's both stupid and an asshole.




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Kyle:  So glad someone is working on polar aligning the 30".

By your description, I'm not sure if you are using what astrophotographers
call the "Drift Star Method".  I've used this method quite a bit and it
works great.

Here is the "Drift Star Method of Polar Alignment":

Choose a star that is approximately overhead and track it for some time with
a high-power guiding eypiece (in your case, the ST9 images).  If it seems to
drift southward, the polar axis is too far east; if it seems to drift
northward, the polar axis is too far west.

Then choose a star that is about 20 degrees above the eastern horizon and
track it:  if it drifts northward, the polar axis is aimed too high, and if
it drifts southward, the polar axis is aimed too low.  By repeating these
tests and making successive corrections, you can achieve very accurate polar
alignment.

But even with very precise polar alignment, there are many other variables
that will make guiding a necessity on long exposures.  Here are a few:
1. Periodic errors in the gear train of the clock drive.
2. Fluctuations in the frequency of the AC power supplied to the motor.
3. Flexure of the telescope tube and mounting as the load shifts.
4. Atmospheric refraction.

This last item is greater the closer you have the telescope pointed to the
horizon.  Remember, when you see the sun just touch the horizon as it is
setting, the real sun is already completely below the horizon.  Refraction
in the atmosphere has created an image of the sun seemingly above the
horizon.



-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Smalley [mailto:ksmalley@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:13 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.


More tweaks on the 30" polar alignment, made by Dick Trentman and
myself.  (This time I used a dry-erase marker on the whiteboard while he
used some sort of metal tool on the those scary-looking parts of the
telescope.)  Checking the tracking with the ST9, and with the scope
aimed on the meridian and the celestial equator, we improved the drift
in declination from about 2.5 pixels per minute to about 1.0 pixel per
minute.  Why not 0.0 pixels per minute?  Well, the scope mount doesn't
exactly respond linearly to polar alignment adjustments, so it takes
many small adjustments, evaluating the effect on tracking after each
adjustment, which makes it all rather time consuming.  It's likely that
the alignment can be improved further, it will just take more time on
another day.  And what about alignment in the other other direction,
with the scope aimed near the horizon, say those of you experienced with
equatorial mounts?  Yes, the vertical alignment could use some
adjustment as well, but it was not nearly as far out of alignment as the
horizontal.  The two errors are similar in size now.

Last time we improved the alignment I claimed that 60 second exposures
were possible, which turned out to be stretching the truth a bit.  After
these latest adjustments, 60 second exposures both near the meridian and
near the horizon showed essentially round star images.  90 second
exposures gave star images which were noticibly egg-shaped, but perhaps
still usable for astrometry.  120 second exposures gave "oh what
happened?"-shaped star images.

Kyle







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Tom,

Yes, exactly.  The two times we worked on this we followed (more or
less) some printed instructions for the star drift method.  One
difference is that you suggest picking a star overhead instead of on the
equator.  Now that I look at various documents on the web, I see that
advice varies about this.  Do you recommend looking overhead this to
elimate mechanical flexure effects?  And yes, when I said near the
horizon, We were aimed about 20 degrees above it.

Anyway, tracking is better now, perhaps within a couple of arc seconds
per minute at any position in the sky.  However, I think that there is
still some simple polar allignment error that can be removed before
errors like mechanical flexure and periodic error become dominant.

Kyle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.


> Kyle:  So glad someone is working on polar aligning the 30".
>
> By your description, I'm not sure if you are using what
astrophotographers
> call the "Drift Star Method".  I've used this method quite a bit and
it
> works great.
>
> Here is the "Drift Star Method of Polar Alignment":
...

You might check out this url for a method of polar alignment using the ccd
camera that is a bit of a refinerment on the star drift method.

http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/pandb/hall/polar.htm

John Anderson
anderiii@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Smalley" <ksmalley@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.


> Tom,
>
> Yes, exactly.  The two times we worked on this we followed (more or
> less) some printed instructions for the star drift method.  One
> difference is that you suggest picking a star overhead instead of on the

--- In IOTAoccultations@y..., Joan and David Dunham <dunham@e...> 
wrote:
       Spectacular Lunar Occultations Friday evening, April 27

   Spectacular occultations of the 3rd-mag. red giant stars eta and 
mu Geminorum by a thin crescent Moon will be visible from most of 
North 
America Friday evening, April 27.  They can be observed with most 
binoculars and recorded with most camcorders without the need for a 
telescope, and those with good eyesight might not even need 
binoculars.
This is a fitting evening complement to the current naked-eye (with
suitable protection) sunspot group, and a good prelude to Astronomy
Day activities on Sat., April 28.  Please copy this message to your
friends and colleagues.   

   These stars are in the feet of Castor, with eta also sometimes 
known 
as Propus and mu as Tejat. The angular diameters of the stars, around 
0.01", can be measured with high-speed photoelectric recordings.  
Times 
of the occultations for large North American cities are given on p. 
118 
of the January issue of Sky and Telescope; that page also includes a 
graze map that shows the southern limit of the eta Gem event across 
northern Mexico.  Much information about these occultations, including 
naked-eye/camcorder views showing the paths of the star behind the 
Moon 
for several North American cities, are now on IOTA's Web site at 
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota 
Unless clouds (or, in some areas, bright twilight or daylight) reduce 
contrast, you don't need these diagrams to know where to look for the 
star - it will be the only bright star just above, or above and to the 
left, of the Moon's dark side (direct, not inverted, view).  It would 
be 
of some interest to see if you can time the disappearance without any 
optical aid, as observers did in the centuries before the telescope 
was 
invented.  Camcorder timings of the occultations are valuable for 
studies of the lunar profile, information needed to reduce solar 
eclipse 
Bailey's bead timings used for solar radius variation studies.  
Occultations of eta and mu Gem are especially important for this since 
they are near the ecliptic, providing a lunar profile, or orientation 
("librations" is the astronomical term), similar to that for eclipses.
The camcorder record must include an accurate time base, such as audio 
recordings of the short-wave time signals from stations WWV or CHU, or 
a local broadcast, if it has been calibrated (see next paragraph).  
Some (but not all) GPS displays also give accurate time. 
   
   Let me know if you can record either a local TV broadcast (must be 
over-the-air, not cable) or a strong AM radio station along with WWV 
or 
CHU time signals for one of these events so that we can post and 
distribute this information to other potential observers in your 
region 
who don't have short-wave receivers.  That is, these other observers 
can 
then use the local TV broadcast or AM radio station as the accurate 
time 
base since it will have been calibrated with the master tape that you 
might make. 

   The disappearance of eta Gem behind the dark edge of the 22% sunlit 
Moon will be visible from most of North America from the Rocky 
Mountains 
eastward, while the disappearance of mu Gem will be visible mainly 
west 
of the Rocky Mountains.  Predictions for the larger North American 
cities are given below; predictions for hundreds more North American 
cities are given on IOTA's Web site above.  Predictions for phenomena 
in 
daylight have been removed below, but are in the predictions on the 
IOTA 
Web site.  Also not included here, but given on the Web site, are 
predictions for the much more difficult reappearance (hard even with 
good telescopes), since it will occur under poorer conditions with the 
Moon lower in the sky; glare from the sunlit side of the Moon will 
overwhelm the star for most observers.  Use of a red filter for these 
M 
giant stars will increase contrast to aid reappearance observations. 
____________________________________________________________________ 

    
Occultation Predictions of eta Geminorum (Propus), mag. 3.5, on 
local date 2001 April 27 (Friday)

    
Moon: % illumination  22+, solar elongation  55 deg.

    
Disappearance
    
                Local Times     Sun Moon     CA  PA  WA   a    b
Location         h  m  s        Alt Alt Az    o   o   o  m/o  m/o
 
Atlanta GA      10 42 38 pm EDT     21 284  76S 106 104 +0.1 -1.5   
Boston MA       10 35 47 pm EDT     15 287  66N  68  66 +0.2 -0.7   
Brownsville TX  10 01 26 pm CDT     27 284  25S 157 154 -0.8 -4.2   
Chicago IL       9 30 51 pm CDT     27 277  86N  88  85 +0.5 -1.2   
Dallas TX        9 41 47 pm CDT     31 278  57S 125 122 +0.3 -2.2   
Denver CO        8 23 23 pm MDT  -7 42 266  70S 112 109 +0.8 -1.9   
Detroit MI      10 32 19 pm EDT     24 279  80N  82  79 +0.4 -1.1   
HamiltonBermuda 11 43 37 pm ADT      5 293  85N  87  84 -0.2 -0.8   
Houston TX       9 48 58 pm CDT     28 281  48S 134 131 +0.0 -2.5   
Kansas City MO   9 31 15 pm CDT     32 274  79S 103 100 +0.5 -1.5   
Los Angeles CA   7 28 44 pm PDT   0 52 264  30S 152 149 +0.5 -4.7   
Memphis TN       9 39 22 pm CDT     27 280  73S 109 106 +0.3 -1.6   
Miami FL        10 54 55 pm EDT     13 289  57S 125 122 -0.3 -1.8   
Minneapolis MN   9 24 02 pm CDT -12 33 270  83N  85  82 +0.7 -1.2   
Montreal PQ     10 32 53 pm EDT     18 284  61N  63  60 +0.3 -0.7   
New Orleans LA   9 48 37 pm CDT     24 283  56S 125 123 +0.0 -2.0   
New York NY     10 36 27 pm EDT     16 286  74N  76  73 +0.2 -0.9   
OklahomaCity OK  9 36 05 pm CDT     34 275  65S 117 114 +0.4 -1.9   
Philadelphia PA 10 36 57 pm EDT     17 286  77N  79  76 +0.2 -0.9   
Phoenix AZ       7 34 23 pm MST  -6 46 269  37S 145 142 +0.4 -3.7   
SaltLakeCity UT  8 15 09 pm MDT   0 49 258  67S 115 112 +1.0 -2.0   
St John's NF    12 08 28 am NDT      4 299  25N  27  24 +0.4 +0.6   
St Louis MO      9 33 59 pm CDT     28 277  83S  99  97 +0.4 -1.4   
Tampa FL        10 51 44 pm EDT     16 287  61S 121 119 -0.2 -1.7   
Toronto ON      10 32 24 pm EDT     21 281  72N  74  72 +0.4 -0.9   
Washington DC   10 37 36 pm EDT     18 285  82N  84  81 +0.2 -1.0   
Winnipeg MB      9 15 54 pm CDT  -6 37 262  73N  75  73 +0.8 -1.0   
____________________________________________________________________

    
Occultation Predictions of mu Geminorum (Tejat), mag. 2.8, on 
local date 2001 April 27 (Friday)
 
Moon: % illumination  22+, solar elongation  55 deg.

    
Disappearance
    
                Local Times     Sun Moon     CA  PA  WA   a    b 
Location         h  m  s        Alt Alt Az    o   o   o  m/o  m/o
 
Denver CO       11 47 48 pm MDT      5 295  79N  82  78 -0.2 -0.9   
Edmonton AB     11 35 26 pm MDT     17 285  57N  60  56 +0.2 -0.9   
Juneau AK        9 22 26 pm ADT  -6 31 263  65N  68  64 +0.6 -1.0   
Los Angeles CA  10 57 05 pm PDT     11 290  73S 110 107 -0.2 -1.4   
Minneapolis MN  12 41 51 am CDT      1 302  55N  58  54 -0.2 -0.5   
Phoenix AZ      10 56 08 pm MST      6 293  78S 104 101 -0.3 -1.2   
SaltLakeCity UT 11 47 53 pm MDT     10 291  84N  87  83 -0.1 -1.0   
SanFrancisco CA 10 52 17 pm PDT     16 286  77S 105 102 -0.1 -1.4   
Seattle WA      10 39 33 pm PDT     21 281  79N  82  78 +0.2 -1.2   
Vancouver BC    10 37 23 pm PDT     22 279  76N  79  75 +0.3 -1.2   
Winnipeg MB     12 39 41 am CDT      6 298  48N  51  47 -0.0 -0.5   
____________________________________________________________________

David Dunham, IOTA, 2001 April 25

Joan and David Dunham
7006 Megan Lane
Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-4722
dunham@e...
--- End forwarded message ---

There will be upwards of 100 6th graders at Powell tonight. Extra help welcome!



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Yes......  If you can, please come down.  The more, the merrier.  I 
will probably be giving the program a few times.



--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> There will be upwards of 100 6th graders at Powell tonight. Extra 
help welcome!
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi All,
    Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare while
imaging at a Dark Site?
Thanks in Advance,
Tom

Tom, Sure, I'd be happy to share a piece of the red filter stuff that Nick
Reuss was kind enough to give me about a year ago. Want me to whack off a
piece and bring to the next general meeting or what? It works pretty good.
Dave

thubb@... wrote:

> Hi All,
>     Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
> plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare while
> imaging at a Dark Site?
> Thanks in Advance,
> Tom
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Try the theater supplers for gels  many colors aviable
I have some lighter red, two layers may be nessiary.

I will bring a sheet to the meeting Sat.

                                                        Gil Machin
----- Original Message -----
From: <thubb@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:39 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Bright Laptop Screen


: Hi All,
:     Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
: plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare while
: imaging at a Dark Site?
: Thanks in Advance,
: Tom
:
:
:
:
:
:
: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
:
:
:

  Subject: [ASKC] Bright Laptop Screen


  Hi All,
      Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
  plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare while
  imaging at a Dark Site?
  Thanks in Advance,
  Tom

  Keith Coldsnow artist supply probably has something called rubylith. It's used in graphic arts to block out stuff during printing.  



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Any ideas for Harry?
I am thinking that the focal length is somehow not working?
let me know and I can send to him
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

In a message dated 4/25/01 1:08:34 PM, harry@... writes:

<< Hello Eric, I've just bought a telescope and need some assistance.


The telescope in question is a Goldline #48T/302048 and has five additions.

An eyepiece (which inverts the image and has a cross), a angled lens, a

H12.5mm eyepiece, a SR4mm eyepiece and a 2.3 X Barlow lens.


Using the old eclipse chaser's trick of projecting the sun onto a sheet of

paper, I have found that the ordinary telescope works perfectly, as it does

if you add the angled lens, but add any of the other eyepieces and the

Barlow lens and you can't get any image.


What am I doing wrong?


Harry Hayfield >>

  << Hello Eric, I've just bought a telescope and need some assistance.


  The telescope in question is a Goldline #48T/302048 and has five additions.

  An eyepiece (which inverts the image and has a cross), a angled lens, a

  H12.5mm eyepiece, a SR4mm eyepiece and a 2.3 X Barlow lens.



  Sadly, I suspect he has purchased one of those little "dime store" refractors. The barlow and the 4 mm eyepiece will be essentially useless for astronomical purposes. He should be able to get a decent image with the 12.5 mm eyepiece. The 4 mm will be dim and difficult to get and keep aligned on an astronomical target. The barlow might be useable with the 12.5 but I doubt it.  He should test it out on something non astronomical in the daytime. I'm pretty sure even a fully sunlit daytime scene will be dim and fuzzy with the 4 mm and /or barlow. With the quality of optics found in these little scopes the theoretical 50X the diameter in inches will not be reachable. A more practical expectation will be 25 times the diameter in inches. Assuming he has a 60mm refractor, 60 power is about the maximum usable magnification. With an 80mm he could hope to get closer to 80 power maximum usable magnification. If the scope has the common 900 mm focal length then his 12.5 mm is giving around 72X. A 4mm would give 225X which is well beyond even the theoretical maximum usable magnification if he had perfect optics, on a perfect night on the top of a mountain somewhere.
  If he sticks to the low power eyepiece he should be able to get some nice views of the moon, Jupiter, Saturn and some of the brighter stuff.

  Of course all of this is meaningless if he has something other than a little dime store refractor. The magnification rules apply to any telescope design and size though.



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John:  What an ingenious idea.  Have you tried this out?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson [mailto:anderiii@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:31 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.


You might check out this url for a method of polar alignment using the ccd
camera that is a bit of a refinerment on the star drift method.

http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/pandb/hall/polar.htm

I found a Meade power adapter cable (of some sort) at Powell Observatory in 
Louisburg last night -- Wednesday, April 25. It almost certainly belongs to 
Bill All. I'm not sure I'm spelling his name correctly, and did not find him 
in my membership info. If someone knows how to contact Bill, please tell him 
I put the cable on the counter in the observatory classroom.

Incidentally, whoever had the idea to leave a box of batteries in the 
classroom is a genius -- I desperately needed 4 "D" cell batteries last night 
and, lo and behold, they were there. Now I owe either the club, or whoever 
owns the batteries in that box, four new "D" cells. Thanks! They saved the 
evening for me.

Fiske


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Thanks Dave & Gil,
  I'll be trying to make my first general meeting this Sat.
Fiske reminded me of it last week when I met up with him at Powell 
last week. I have been working weekends on nite shift until now and 
never could attend. Looking forward to meeting everyone.

Tom Hubbard


--- In ASKC@y..., David Hudgins <dhudgins@s...> wrote:
> Tom, Sure, I'd be happy to share a piece of the red filter stuff 
that Nick
> Reuss was kind enough to give me about a year ago. Want me to whack 
off a
> piece and bring to the next general meeting or what? It works pretty 
good.
> Dave
> 
> thubb@s... wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >     Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
> > plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare 
while
> > imaging at a Dark Site?
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: FiskeM3@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:10 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Meade Adapter Cable found at Powell


  I found a Meade power adapter cable (of some sort) at Powell Observatory in 
  Louisburg last night -- Wednesday, April 25. It almost certainly belongs to 
  Bill All. 

  Bill checks in on this e-group so maybe he will see your note. If not maybe someone can bring it to the meeting Saturday night. Gary Pittman should have his phone number.


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  Now I owe either the club, or whoever owns the batteries in that box, four new "D" cells. Thanks! They saved the evening for me.

  In case everyone doesn't know about the stash, there is a cardboard box in the cabinet next to the one where we keep the ccd cameras.  It did have a few 9 volt, AA, C, and D batteries in it for those late night telescope emergencies.  No payment needed. I'll put some more AA down there too. I noticed those had all been used. I also didn't see any 9 volt. They aren't needed very often but sometimes you need one and every source is miles away and probably closed. 


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FiskeM3@... wrote:
> 
> I found a Meade power adapter cable (of some sort) at Powell Observatory in
> Louisburg last night -- Wednesday, April 25. It almost certainly belongs to
> Bill All. I'm not sure I'm spelling his name correctly, and did not find him
> in my membership info. If someone knows how to contact Bill, please tell him
> I put the cable on the counter in the observatory classroom.
> 

Thanks Fiske, yes the cable is mine. Must have dropped it when packing
up last evening.
If someone is going to be down at Powell this evening I'll come down and
pick it up.
Bill
--

Message for Bill All

Greg North will probably go to Powell tonight. He will call me if he does indeed go. He will bring your cable to my house in Shawnee if that is better for you. Call me at 913-558-1155 and let me know what you want to do. I don't have your phone number or I'd call you.



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Thanks David!

Fiske


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Bill's phone number is (913) 393-1040. I don't have an e-mail address for
him.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: FiskeM3@... [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:10 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Meade Adapter Cable found at Powell


I found a Meade power adapter cable (of some sort) at Powell Observatory in
Louisburg last night -- Wednesday, April 25. It almost certainly belongs to
Bill All. I'm not sure I'm spelling his name correctly, and did not find him
in my membership info. If someone knows how to contact Bill, please tell him
I put the cable on the counter in the observatory classroom.

Incidentally, whoever had the idea to leave a box of batteries in the
classroom is a genius -- I desperately needed 4 "D" cell batteries last
night
and, lo and behold, they were there. Now I owe either the club, or whoever
owns the batteries in that box, four new "D" cells. Thanks! They saved the
evening for me.

Fiske


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I have not tried it personally, but I have seen comments on some of the
maillists from others who seem to have had good results with the method.
Obviously, it's best suited to a permanent mounting.

John

John Anderson
anderiii@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:44 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.


> John:  What an ingenious idea.  Have you tried this out?
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Anderson [mailto:anderiii@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:31 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] 60 second exposures, for real this time.
>
>
> You might check out this url for a method of polar alignment using the ccd
> camera that is a bit of a refinerment on the star drift method.
>
> http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/pandb/hall/polar.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Can anyone help with this?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: jjtruitt 
To: antares@... 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: volunteers


Dear Gina,
I am one of the volunteers this summer for a weekend camp for children with epilepsy.  Our theme focuses on stars and planets.  I am looking for a couple of volunteers to spend a couple of hours on June 9 with these kids, presenting them with a little program.  Know anyone I can contact about this?


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Where is this camp held and what time would you need them?



----- Original Message -----
From: Gina Fedon
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 9:01 AM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Fw: volunteers


Can anyone help with this?

----- Original Message -----
From: jjtruitt
To: antares@...
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:48 AM
Subject: volunteers


Dear Gina,
I am one of the volunteers this summer for a weekend camp for children with epilepsy.  Our theme focuses on stars and planets.  I am looking for a couple of volunteers to spend a couple of hours on June 9 with these kids, presenting them with a little program.  Know anyone I can contact about this?


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Hi, everyone --

Help!  I went to look at the file, and it said I wasn't a member, and yet I
was sure I joined, and I get the e-mails.  Well, I have "joined" again just
now.  Will that do it? Will I be able to see files ? Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:27 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC



Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
group.

  File        : /Comets.jpg
  Uploaded by : skranz@...
  Description : 2 evening comets

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/Comets.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

skranz@...










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Tom -- I may have some, and will try and find it and bring to the meeting
for you!  jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: thubb@... [mailto:thubb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Bright Laptop Screen


Hi All,
    Can anyone tell me where I can get a sheet of translucent red
plastic to place over my laptop screen to tone down the glare while
imaging at a Dark Site?
Thanks in Advance,
Tom






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Please check you address for Shelly.  Her address in the original
message header has her email incorrect.  So, if you clicked on her
address at the beginning, it updated you book wrong.

Joe

Shelley G wrote:

> please note my new email  grangerk@... shelley

I never heard anything back on this event.  Is it still planned?  I'd
like to attend to learn what is involved.

Bill All

webmaster@... wrote:
> 
> Looking for observers for the graze of SAO 80087
> which occurs at 9:45pm the evening of April 29th (Sunday)
> Star is 7.9 magnitude, KO spectral class.
> The moon will be 43% sunlit, 39 degrees high in the west.
> Location of the graze site will be between Bonner Springs & Olathe.
> More specific details will be availabe when I pull maps to get exact
> location.
> 
> This will take at least a 6" scope. You will also need a cassette
> tape recorder (to record your observations) and a shortwave radio (for
> time signal overlay). If you have one of the Supercircuits PC23 video
> cameras, you can video tape the event (even better - but still need
> the radio for the time signals to be heard)
> 
> Bob Sandy will be leading an expedition on the Missouri side. I will
> be leading the expedition on the Kansas side.
> 
> These are fun and easy to do. We always meet somewhere before hand,
> and then afterwards, if not too late, hit somewhere to eat. They
> provide scientific data to the professional community for a variety
> of uses. We have the AIC doing real science. Here is another way to
> contribute if asteroids "aren't your thing".
> 
> If you are interested, please contact me within the next several
> weeks so I can plan on how many observing sites I need to set up.
> 
> Rob Robinson
> VP of Occultation Services, IOTA
>

This comet has eluded my capture. Anyone image it?
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 
 Astronomy consultant/teacher - Project From the Ground Up- Harvard University

COMET LINEAR BRIGHTENS MORE

Comet LINEAR (C/2001 A2) has had another unexpected boost in
brightness. To the surprise of astronomers -- who presumed the comet
would have faded a bit since its outburst nearly a month ago -- the
comet now shines at about magnitude 6.5. Although it's an easy
evening-sky target in binoculars and a small telescope, it will soon
become a Southern Hemisphere only object. By the end of twilight,
Comet LINEAR is less than 10 degrees above the west-southwest horizon
in Lepus for observers at midnorthern latitudes. Skywatchers south of
the equator can find the comet about 40 degrees above the western
horizon as darkness falls. Here are coordinates for Comet LINEAR at 0
hours Universal Time for the coming week:

R.A. Dec.

Apr 28 5h 54m -15.2 deg.
Apr 30 5 54 -15.9
May 2 5 53 -16.7
May 4 5 52 -17.4

--- In ASKC@y..., Bill All <n3kkm@k...> wrote:
> I never heard anything back on this event.  Is it still planned?  
I'd
> like to attend to learn what is involved.

Bill - 
Bob Sandy tried getting hold of you periodically to get things set up 
with you.
I had other committments that came up and could not lead or 
participate in this excellent graze.
I would suggest that you get hold of Bob Sandy (816-795-8116) and give 
him a number you can be reached at, for future events.
This is another one he is leading tomorrow night, east of St. Joe if 
you are interested. Get with him ASAP if you would like to participate 
in it. He is off work tomorrow, so can be reached during the day at 
home.

If anyone has pictures from the Astronomy Day event at the zoo that they 
would be willing to have published in the Cosmic Messenger, please e-mail 
them to my attention. 

I would also like to get some information about the event to put together a 
brief article. Of course, if anyone would like to contribute an article on 
the event that would be terrific.

Please e-mail pictures to fiskem3@....

Fiske Miles



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A short handed work party managed to get Powell in acceptable shape for the first public star party
next Saturday. 

Thanks to Kyle Smalley, Bob Sandy, Nick Ruess, Donald Ruess and Joel Grainger, the place got a grass cut and trim, toidy cleaning, fridge defrosting and miscellaneous cleaning. The conduit trench on the south side of the dome has been filled in. The H beams are now welded in place for the roll off roof.

The AP8P camera has arrived. Now we need to pry the money out of NASA!


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Can anyone tell me Bob Sandy's e-mail address. The listing I have, 
grazebob@... doesn't seem to work.

Fiske


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Fiske:  Bo's  new e-mail address is:
bobgraze@...

Tom Martinez

-----Original Message-----
From: FiskeM3@... [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Bob Sandy E-Mail Address


Can anyone tell me Bob Sandy's e-mail address. The listing I have, 
grazebob@... doesn't seem to work.

Fiske

I have insured the AP8P camera for $12500.00 through Elliot Insurance and received a faxed confirmation of the insurance.

I have the instructions for the camera and would like to know if I should scan them and post them to the file area in askc egroups. If a few people say yes, what format should I use? BMP ?


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--- In ASKC@y..., FiskeM3@a... wrote:
> If anyone has pictures from the Astronomy Day event at the zoo that 
they 
> would be willing to have published in the Cosmic Messenger, please 
e-mail 
> them to my attention. 

YES...
And your webmaster would like some also!

Fiske,

His new one is bobgraze@...

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: FiskeM3@... [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Bob Sandy E-Mail Address


Can anyone tell me Bob Sandy's e-mail address. The listing I have, 
grazebob@... doesn't seem to work.

Fiske


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Thanks Tom!

Fiske


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Many thanks to those who have brought to my attention corrections
need on the webpages. I have also done some updating. 
As of today the following has been completed:

1) Corrected the email address on the copyright notice at the bottom 
of the page. It was directed to the old SoundNet account. It now 
reflects the new email address askconline@...

2) Added Amy Hahn as an "ask an astronomer" person (Amy - make sure I 
have the right email address for you)

3) Changed David Young's email address on the observatory page for 
"email contacting" for star parties

4) Added link to MidStates Convention on the front page

5) May Calendar is now up

6) David Hudgins sent me some great star party photos. Those are now 
on the "slideshow" page. I did some reorganizing here, so when you 
click on the "Slide Shows" link, it will take you to a page so you
can select what you want to view

7) Still need to update the Awards page! SCOTT -> Need names of
people who have received awards in the past 3 months along with what 
certificates they have received.

8) DAVID YOUNG -> Need information for May guest speaker as soon as 
you have something

On other notes:

Shelley will be sending me her library database, which will be on the 
web as soon as I get it. This will give you an opportunity to see
what we have in our treasure trove of books, tapes and videos.

Many of you know Myrna Bishop, our astronomical bookseller. She is 
reducing her inventory, and will soon have many astronomical related 
books for sale (at a substantially reduced price)on her website: 
www.astronomybooksonline.com
I still have to convert her database into web-readble pages, but that 
should occur in the next day or so, and then the pages will
available. 
If you have been looking for some of those rare, out of print, or 
specific topic astronomy books at some of the other booksellers 
online, be sure and browse her online catalog. She may have what you 
are looking for! 

I'm still trying to get a speaker lined up for the May meeting. I'm working on Tom Armstrong of the Lawrence based Fundamental Technologies. I'll be in San Francisco that week so I'd better come up with something for you guys!


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pdf format is preferable. You need the full version of Adobe Acrobat to make a pdf document. However, if you don't have access to Adobe Acrobat, then use jpeg format. The free version of Adobe Acrobat, which is available for free from http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html, is Adobe Acrobat Reader. The reader can read pdf files, but it can't create them. 

Melissa Kirk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Young 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:30 PM
Subject: [ASKC] AP8P Camera


I have insured the AP8P camera for $12500.00 through Elliot Insurance and received a faxed confirmation of the insurance.

I have the instructions for the camera and would like to know if I should scan them and post them to the file area in askc egroups. If a few people say yes, what format should I use? BMP ?


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Probably not many of you have heard of this gentleman. Some of you who 
were on early internet/bbs bulletin boards around, know the name of 
Sid Lee. He was a well known Canadian amateur who lived and breathed 
astronomy. He will be missed.....


Seldom have I been called on to deliver bad news, but a fairly active 
member
of this list passed away last week.  Sid Lee, of Clagary.  Sid was a 
very
active member of the Calagary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society 
of
Canada.  What follows is an obituary, written by current Calagary 
Centre
President, Roland Duchesne


From: Roland Dechesne <rolandd@c...>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:27:39 -0600

It is with a heavy heart that I pass on the following sad news.

Sidney G. Lee passed away at home last Thursday, April 26, 2001 of a
suspected heart attack.  He had not been feeling well for several days 
and
had stayed home to recuperate thinking he had picked up a bad flu.  It 
is
possible that he had a minor heart attack that precipitated his 
feelings of
ill health and a major one last Thursday while sleeping peacefully in 
a
chair.

I know every one of you have had contact with Sid one way or another 
as a
member of the Calgary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of 
Canada -
for many of you, Sid was your first welcome into our family.

The following item is what I have contributed to the obituary for Sid 
Lee,
to be published in Wednesday papers.

The Calgary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada (RASC) 
will
never be the same without Sid.  As a volunteer, he performed many key 
and
sometimes onerous jobs and his sharp mind and sense of what really 
mattered
acted as a balance and a conscience for the group.  His true passion 
was
educating the public, especially children, about astronomy and science 
in
general.  For his efforts, Sid received the Service Award of the Royal
Astronomical Society of Canada in 1996.  Sid garnered a standing 
ovation
when he accepted the RASC Calgary Centre's Peter Sim Public Education 
Award
in 2000, having already received the President's Award and numerous 
other
local accolades.

Alan Dyer of the Calgary Science Centre wrote the following piece, 
asking,
"how can we summarize what he did in a paragraph?"  I'm sure you'll 
agree,
Alan did fine job trying.

Sid contributed countless hours of volunteer work at the Calgary 
Science
Centre, organizing its public telescope viewing program, presenting 
shows
for school children, and programming its complex digital star 
projector.
Hundreds of school children and thousands of members of the public 
benefited
each year from Sid's knowledge and skills. He was viewed by staff as 
an
equal staff member essential to the operations and programs of the 
Science
Centre. His contributions to science education in Calgary will be 
greatly
missed and impossible to fully replace.

Naturally, much more can be said of a man as talented and hardworking 
as Sid
Lee; we will be preparing an item for the RASC Journal, so please 
e-mail me
your thoughts and stories for incorporation into that article.

Sid was unmarried and is survived by one sister, Lynda of Jasper, 
Alberta.
In many ways, we at the RASC and the Calgary Science Centre were his 
Calgary
family.  I know a number of RASC members who keenly feel that they 
have lost
a family member.

I have spoken with Sid's sister, Lynda, and the aforementioned Alan 
Dyer,
and we have been able to arrange that the memorial service for Sidney 
G. Lee
will take place in the Discovery Dome at the Calgary Science Centre, 
701 -
11 Street S.W., this Thursday May 3, 2001, at 5:30 PM.  Reception to 
follow,
also at the Calgary Science Centre.
 
Please bring any photographs, video and memorabilia that would let the 
rest
of his friends have a little glimpse of Sid's special influence on 
your
life.  Some assistance will be needed in preparing the venue, so if 
some of
you can come a little early to help, please let me know.

Susan Yeo reminds us that Sid would want us all to take a moment and 
observe
the splendor of the universe.  I hope we all will find a little bit of 
Sid
when we gaze at those heavens.

Yours in sorrow,

Roland G. Dechesne

RolandD@c...
wk              (403)-517-7027
fax             (403)-517-7353
hm              (403)-246-4498
Calgary, Alberta, Canada (51d N, 114d W)
--- End forwarded message ---

I forwarded this once, and it apparently never made it to the group.
Some of you may not know of this avid amateur, and those of us that 
have been around the net 10+ years, remembers him from the old 
newsgroups on the BBS and early internet boards. He will be greatly 
missed. He was a real asset to RASC and was a treasure trove of 
knowledge.

Seldom have I been called on to deliver bad news, but a fairly active 
member
of this list passed away last week.  Sid Lee, of Clagary.  Sid was a 
very
active member of the Calagary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society 
of
Canada.  What follows is an obituary, written by current Calagary 
Centre
President, Roland Duchesne


From: Roland Dechesne <rolandd@c...>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:27:39 -0600

It is with a heavy heart that I pass on the following sad news.

Sidney G. Lee passed away at home last Thursday, April 26, 2001 of a
suspected heart attack.  He had not been feeling well for several days 
and
had stayed home to recuperate thinking he had picked up a bad flu.  It 
is
possible that he had a minor heart attack that precipitated his 
feelings of
ill health and a major one last Thursday while sleeping peacefully in 
a
chair.

I know every one of you have had contact with Sid one way or another 
as a
member of the Calgary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of 
Canada -
for many of you, Sid was your first welcome into our family.

The following item is what I have contributed to the obituary for Sid 
Lee,
to be published in Wednesday papers.

The Calgary Centre of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada (RASC) 
will
never be the same without Sid.  As a volunteer, he performed many key 
and
sometimes onerous jobs and his sharp mind and sense of what really 
mattered
acted as a balance and a conscience for the group.  His true passion 
was
educating the public, especially children, about astronomy and science 
in
general.  For his efforts, Sid received the Service Award of the Royal
Astronomical Society of Canada in 1996.  Sid garnered a standing 
ovation
when he accepted the RASC Calgary Centre's Peter Sim Public Education 
Award
in 2000, having already received the President's Award and numerous 
other
local accolades.

Alan Dyer of the Calgary Science Centre wrote the following piece, 
asking,
"how can we summarize what he did in a paragraph?"  I'm sure you'll 
agree,
Alan did fine job trying.

Sid contributed countless hours of volunteer work at the Calgary 
Science
Centre, organizing its public telescope viewing program, presenting 
shows
for school children, and programming its complex digital star 
projector.
Hundreds of school children and thousands of members of the public 
benefited
each year from Sid's knowledge and skills. He was viewed by staff as 
an
equal staff member essential to the operations and programs of the 
Science
Centre. His contributions to science education in Calgary will be 
greatly
missed and impossible to fully replace.

Naturally, much more can be said of a man as talented and hardworking 
as Sid
Lee; we will be preparing an item for the RASC Journal, so please 
e-mail me
your thoughts and stories for incorporation into that article.

Sid was unmarried and is survived by one sister, Lynda of Jasper, 
Alberta.
In many ways, we at the RASC and the Calgary Science Centre were his 
Calgary
family.  I know a number of RASC members who keenly feel that they 
have lost
a family member.

I have spoken with Sid's sister, Lynda, and the aforementioned Alan 
Dyer,
and we have been able to arrange that the memorial service for Sidney 
G. Lee
will take place in the Discovery Dome at the Calgary Science Centre, 
701 -
11 Street S.W., this Thursday May 3, 2001, at 5:30 PM.  Reception to 
follow,
also at the Calgary Science Centre.
 
Please bring any photographs, video and memorabilia that would let the 
rest
of his friends have a little glimpse of Sid's special influence on 
your
life.  Some assistance will be needed in preparing the venue, so if 
some of
you can come a little early to help, please let me know.

Susan Yeo reminds us that Sid would want us all to take a moment and 
observe
the splendor of the universe.  I hope we all will find a little bit of 
Sid
when we gaze at those heavens.

Yours in sorrow,

Roland G. Dechesne

RolandD@c...
wk              (403)-517-7027
fax             (403)-517-7353
hm              (403)-246-4498
Calgary, Alberta, Canada (51d N, 114d W)
--- End forwarded message ---

I have started scanning the instructions for the AP8P camera. I'm using rich text format which reads very nicely with MSWord.

I just started fiddling so I don't have the method optimized. I just noticed an option to add to an existing document. That would let me make single files of the various sections. 

I uploaded 4 files to the askc@yahoogroups page. They are scans of the 4 pages of Parallel Port Camera instructions.

I'll try linking the pages to make single files of the next few sections.

Let me know if you can or can not read them so I'll know if I should continue with this format.


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David,

Yes, I can read all four documents in both WordPad and Word Viewer 97.
WordPad can understand and format rtf, but it's not quite as smart about
it as Word Viewer.  For example, the dialog on page 3 scanned as several
overlapping images, plus a little bit of text that was recognized in the
image.  Word Viewer does a nice job of overlaying all of these parts
whereas WordPad punts and displays them sequentially.  So, if there's an
option to "combine overlapping graphics into a single graphic and don't
recognize text with graphics" then you might try turning that on.
Otherwise, it looks great as it is.

Kyle

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From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:02 AM
Subject: [ASKC] ap8p


> I have started scanning the instructions for the AP8P camera. I'm
using rich text format which reads very nicely with MSWord.
>
> I just started fiddling so I don't have the method optimized. I just
noticed an option to add to an existing document. That would let me make
single files of the various sections.
>
> I uploaded 4 files to the askc@yahoogroups page. They are scans of the
4 pages of Parallel Port Camera instructions.
>
> I'll try linking the pages to make single files of the next few
sections.
>
> Let me know if you can or can not read them so I'll know if I should
continue with this format.
>
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> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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Ok Kyle. Since it appears they can be read, I'll continue to scan the directions. I figured this would give interested parties a head start instead of waiting for photo copies. The next batch will be the operating instructions.

Pay particular attention to the temperature control section. The rest is pretty much the same as current proceedures with the ST9E.


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Anyone interested in being nominated for the ASKC Recording Secretary position?

This position is a good way to learn about the business of the club at Board
Meetings and General Meetings.

Please let me know if you would be willing to be nominated for this position.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg,
Chairman, Nominating Committee

Another file of operating instructions has been uploaded to the askcyahoogroups page.


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--- In IOTAoccultations@y..., Joan and David Dunham <dunham@e...> wrote:
1.  Help is needed from observers in n. Florida, Georgia, n. Alabama, 
w. Tenn., s. Missouri, n. Arkansas, n.e. Okla., Kansas, w. Nebraska, 
Wyoming, Montana, and s. Alberta to observe the occultation of 8.4-mag. 
SAO 182707 by the asteroid (337) Devosa Monday night, May 7/8.  See 
below for details, including coverage information for your location with 
updated event times. 

2.  Path for difficult Monday morning occultation of 11.8-mag. by (345) 
Tercidina now expected over w. Louisiana, Little Rock, central Missouri, 
eastern Iowa, Minneapolis, Duluth, & Isthmus of Tehuantepec area of 
Mexico.

See the entries for these events in the table of the asteroidal 
occultation page of the main IOTA Web site at 
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota
especially for detailed finder charts and maps showing the updated 
paths.  HOWEVER, the LATEST path maps for the important Devosa event are 
not there; see below.  Also, observer coverage and other important 
observing information is given only below, including many additions and 
modifications by me, although this will probably be posted on the Web 
site this evening.  The updates were computed by Steve Preston, Medina, 
Washington, e-mail stevepr@a... using mainly FASTT data provided by 
Ron Stone, USNO - Flagstaff, and Gordon Garradd in Australia.  

David Dunham, IOTA, May 4 afternoon
______________________________________________________________________ 

1.  We want to coordinate coverage for this good occultation, visible 
with most any small telescope, so PLEASE let me know of your plans.  We 
will deploy mobile observers to fill in the gaps of coverage by fixed-
location observers and very much need your help.  After Preston's 
information is given possible coverage of the occultation; please send 
coordinates (or street addresses so that I can determine coordinates 
from http://www.mapsonus.com ) if your relatively accurate coordinates 
are not in the list below.

                 IOTA/IOTA-ES occultation update for 
   (337) Devosa/SAO 182707 = HIP 71481 event on 2001 May 08, 04:41 UT
                    visible from SE USA to NW USA
Summary
-------
On the early morning (UTC) of 2001 May 08 (evening local time of 2001 
May 07 in the West and shortly after midnight of May 7/8 in the central 
and eastern time zones) the 63 km diameter (subtends 0.055") asteroid 
(337) Devosa will occult an 8.4 mag star in the constellation Hyades for 
observers along a path from Georgia or northern Florida to Montana in 
the USA, and probably southern Alberta.

In case of an occultation the combined light of the asteroid and the 
star will drop by 3.7 mag to 12.1 mag (the magnitude of the asteroid) 
for at most 5.3 seconds.  Unfortunately, a 99% sunlit waning Moon will 
be only 17 deg. away.  This should not interfere much with a star as 
bright as 8.4 mag., but will make it harder to use finder scopes and see 
fainter stars to locate the target star; allow enough time to locate it.

This update is based on USNO/Flagstaff (FASTT) astrometry for the asteroid 
kindly provided by Ron Stone, astrometry from Gordon Garradd, and on the 
TYCHO-2 (TYC2) position for the star. [BUT noted added by D. Dunham:  
Additional observations of the star have recently been reported by 
USNO/Flagstaff (FASTT), and since they were made the same way as the most 
accurate asteroid observations, they will probably be more accurate for 
this event, and move it significantly north.] 

The occultation path
---------------------
  * approximate projected width: 110 km
  * RMS uncertainty interval [path widths]: +/- 1.6 (2 sigma)
  * RMS uncertainty interval RA,DEC ["]: (+/- .082,  +/- .075)
  * website for maps (prediction with TYC2 star data ONLY):
        http://lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm
        http://www.oz.net/~stevepr/Asteroids/asteroid.htm

[Added by D. Dunham:  The path with the new FASTT star position shifts 
0.4 path-widths north of that shown on 118 of the Feb. issue of Sky and 
Telescope, and the time is 0.5 min. later than indicated there.  This 
path passes over Savannah and Atlanta, Georgia at 4:43 UT (0:43 am EDT 
May 8); Huntsville, AL; just n. of Memphis at 4:44 UT (11:44 pm CDT of 
May 7); Topeka, KS at 4:45 UT; and Calgary, Alberta at 4:46 UT (10:46 pm 
MDT).  But Preston's prediction using the TYC-2 position for the star is 
1.5 path-widths south of the path shown in the Feb. issue of S&T, with 
the time 0.6 min. later - that path passes over Jacksonville, FL at 4:43 
UT; Valdosta, GA; Montgomery, AL at 4:44 UT; Little Rock, AR; just north 
of Tulsa, OK at 4:45 UT and over Wichita, KS; just n. of Laramie, WY at 
4:46; and over Bozeman, MT.  Observers within both paths, between them, 
and a little north and south of them (such as Gainesville, FL; Kansas 
City, MO) are strongly encouraged to monitor the star for a period of 
two minutes centered on the time of closest approach for their location.  
More information may become available later this weekend to predict the 
path location more accurately and will be distributed when it is 
available.]

Data for the target star
--------------------------
 * J2000 position with proper motion to date of event:
    RA 14h 37m 4.9s,  DEC -25 deg. 48' 09"
 * V mag: 8.4, spectral type K0
 The detailed finder chart by Goffin is on the main IOTA Web site.  But 
 the small wide-field chart doesn't include familiar stars, so a second 
 chart has been made with Guide that can be found just under the "view" 
 for the Goffin chart; the Guide chart shows Spica (alpha Virginis) in 
 the upper right corner and the head of Scorpius on the left side.  But 
 NOT shown on that figure (maybe this will be fixed) is the nearly full 
 Moon which is 1 deg. south of gamma Librae, shown on the map.  For a 
 birds-eye view, use Spica, alpha2 Librae (Zubenelgenubi), and the Moon 
 (south of gamma) with that chart to estimate where the target star area 
 is (for pointing with your finder scope), then locate the line of 4 
 5th-mag. stars 54 - 57 Hydrae, and the detailed chart can be used to 
 offset from them by 2.5 deg. west of a point in the middle of the line, 
 between 55 and 56 Hydrae, to the area of the target star, as shown on 
 the detailed chart by Goffin. 

Medium-range Weather Forecast and Observer Coverage (D. Dunham):
The Accuweather forecast so far has only been checked for the southern 
(old) path, but it is probably not much different in general for the 
northern one just north of the areas described.  It should be mostly 
clear, with only scattered cirrus, across n. Florida and s. Georgia, so 
those are prime areas for this event - hope observers there can try it. 
It will be partly cloudy, low clouds, across Alabama, with thick clouds 
over Arkansas.  The front causing those clouds should have moved east of 
Wichita by early in the evening, leaving virtually clear skies by the 
event time.  It should be similarly clear across the rest of Kansas and 
Wyoming, with increasing cirrus in Montana (about 50% at Bozeman) at the 
event time (lower altitude could aggravate the situation there).

Below is a list of observer stations sorted by distance from the central 
line of the older (TYC2 star) prediction.  Distances are given in 
tracks, where 1 track is about 1.9 km on the ground (measured 
perpendicularly to the path center).  Note that the NEW prediction with 
the FASTT position for the star is at track 103N in the list below, and 
the n. and s. limits are indicated for both predictions.  The path 
prediction is uncertain by a full path-width, and those extremes are 
noted.  All observers between them are encouraged to attempt 
observations, from track 186N to 83S; if you are mobile, let me know and 
I will suggest which track you might observe from (and I'll try to 
translate that into a location for you, although you could also plot one 
of the paths given below on a small-scale ONC or USGS index map and use 
the difference in tracks multiplied by 1.9 km), and you can send me a 
location from where you might observe and I can calculate its track.
The U.T. gives the time of closest approach at your station, and you 
should observe starting one minute before that time (of course, try to 
locate the star much earlier) to one minute after.  The time is 0.1 
minute earlier than the given time for the new (FASTT star position) 
prediction.  Video recordings are encouraged; the star is bright enough 
that it should be recordable with a PC-23C Supercircuits camera with an 
8-inch telescope.  

NOTE:  This table needs to be displayed and/or printed with a fixed-
space font such as Courier for the columns to line up properly.  You 
might save this message to a file and use the search feature of an 
editor to locate your site by name.  If you are not in the list, please 
provide your coordinates, or your address so that we can determine your 
coordinates and add your site.  In the e-mail message, the lines are 
long enough that some (or many) of the lines will wrap; I will send a 
.txt (plain ASCII text) version of this to R. Robinson so that it can be 
posted on the main IOTA Web site; you can then retrieve it from there 
and, by using a small enough font size, you should be able to see it 
without line wrapping.  I can also send the file to you as an attachment 
on request.

Codes (column C, between Track and U.T. h) - this indicates the 
confirmation status of the station.  As of now, only ONE station is 
confirmed - please send me a message with your intent so that I can 
place an * or D (or W) to confirm your track in a later version of the 
table.  A perhaps LAST update of the table will be distributed on May 7
at 6h UT (1 am CDT Sunday night/Monday morning); after that, I will be 
travelling to Kansas City, where I will rent a car, to observe the event 
myself from Kansas.  If possible, I'll stop at a motel, or maybe an 
observer's home, to connect my laptop computer to a phone line to get 
last inputs sent to this e-mail address, dunham@e... , and 
distribute a final track coverage list, around 6 pm CDT of May 7. 

  *  Visual observer, weather forecast good
  ?  = *, probable, but haven't received confirmation
  D  CCD or video observer, weather forecast good
  W  Will try, but some uncertainty in the weather
     (but try to avoid their exact chord at least)

Track    U.T.  W.Long.  Lat.    h City/  Country    Observer or
      C h   m     o      o      m  Town             Observatory
 201N   4 44.7  91.221 38.725  50 Warrenton, MO     Doug Kniffen, 95Dec9 85Io 
 199N   4 45.1  96.100 41.250 350 Omaha    NE       approximate         xxC   
 198N   4 43.6  82.265 34.665   0 Fountain Inn, SC  David Anderson 16in.      
 194N   4 44.0  85.471 35.894   0 Atlanta area, GA  Ned Smith, 10" L          
 192N   4 44.1  86.300 36.210   0 Lebanon  TN       Tim Farris Cumb. U. xxD   
 191N   4 44.2  86.800 36.430   0 Greenbrier, TN    Rick Mellinger            
 189N   4 44.1  86.514 36.260   0 Boonevil TN       W.Kirbo c/oDegenhardt D   
 189N   4 43.5  81.026 33.996  98 COLUMBIA SC       UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH C D   
 186N    ***  northern limit if shifts 1 path-width north of NEW path  ***
 174N   4 44.2  86.805 36.052 345 Nashvill TN       DyerObs.,c/oDegenhardtD   
 171N   4 44.1  86.344 35.797 191 MURFREES TN       SCOTT M. DEGENHARDT   D   
 171N   4 44.8  92.133 38.517   0 Jefferson City, MOTimothy Wilson,90mmMaks.(8
 170N   4 45.2  96.594 40.843 354 Lincoln  NE       M. Gaskell & Johnson xC   
 167N   4 45.7 102.131 43.9911500 Quinn, SD         MP918,BadlandsOb,on Dyvig 
 167N   4 45.2  96.649 40.807   0 Lincoln, NE       Erik Hubl                 
 164N   4 44.2  87.243 36.043 222 Antioch  TN       Dudley Pitts        xxD   
 154N   4 44.7  91.767 37.950 305 ROLLA    MO       JOSEPH SENNE          C   
 147N   4 45.0  94.900 39.410   0 Weston, MO        Paul Temple               
 146N   4 44.0  85.471 34.894 222 Trenton, GA       Ned Smith via M.Kaz.,2hGPS
 145N   4 45.8 103.000 44.000   0 RapidCit S.Dak.   Povenmire, Sandy      C   
 143N   4 45.0  94.310 39.020   0 Lake Tapawingo, MOLandingham, Dick          
 143N   4 45.0  94.345 39.028 236 BLUE SPR MO       ROBERT L. SANDY       C   
 143N   4 44.1  86.193 35.126 294 BELVIDER TN       C.Smith c/oDegenhardt D   
 142N   4 43.8  83.400 33.950   0 Athens   GA       Scott Shaw          xxD   
 138N   4 46.3 114.114 51.0861101 Calgary, AB       Gary BillingsC14,CCDscan  
 138N   4 46.3 114.057 51.0471045 CALGARY  ALBERTA  ANDREW LOW            F   
 136N   4 45.0  94.655 39.027 308 MISSION  KS       J. DENNIS BREWER    ? C   
 133N   4 45.0  94.806 39.048 297 BONNER S KS       WALTER L. ROBINSON    C   
 131N     ***  NEW Northern Limit with new FASTT star data  ***
 130N   4 45.1  95.740 39.470 250 Holton, KS        Mike Ford                 
 126N   4 46.4 114.289 50.8691272 Priddis, AB       U. of Calgary Obs. F108   
 125N   4 43.6  82.483 33.248 162 AUGUSTA  GA       ROGER J. VENABLE      D   
 121N   4 45.0  94.598 38.667 298 Cleveland, MO     Tom Martinez, C8          
 120N   4 46.4 114.700 51.013   0 Calgary, Alberta  Yeung, Bill 100+ miles por
 117N   4 45.0  94.700 38.646 325 Louisburg, KS     Powell Obs. 30", ACKC     
 115N   4 43.9  84.318 33.779 320 Atlanta  GA       Fernbank Sci. Ctr.  xxD   
 115N   4 44.1  86.567 34.717   0 Madison, AL       David Nance, C8           
 112N   4 44.1  86.550 34.650   0 RedstoneArsenal,ALDave Lanteigne            
 111N   4 43.8  84.002 33.575 238 CONYERS  GA       MIKE KAZMIERCZAK      D   
 110N   4 45.1  95.703 39.021 280 TOPEKA   KS       CRAIG A. MCMANUS      C   
 108N   4 45.2  95.794 39.024 315 Topeka, KS        Richard Wilds, 7"R        
 103N     ***  NEW CENTER with new FASTT star data  ***
  97N   4 45.2  96.132 38.947 448 TOPEKA   KS       RICHARD WILDS         C   
  89N   4 43.4  80.986 31.991   3 Savannah GA       OgelthorpeAS NoEml  xxD   
  82N   4 44.2  86.840 34.170   0 Cullman, AL       Smith, Scott 10in         
  80N   4 43.6  82.448 32.352  82 Soperton, GA      Jeff Lackmeyer 8in.       
  78N   4 44.6  90.716 35.827   0 Jonesboro, AR     Paul Qualtieri, 10-in.    
  75N   4 44.2  87.016 34.096 178 CRANE HI AL       SCOTT ANDREW SMITH    D   
  75N     ***  NEW Southern Limit with new FASTT star data  ***
  74N   4 43.6  82.400 32.210   0 Vidalia  GA       Jeff Lackmeyer      xxD   
  69N   4 44.5  89.899 35.255  76 MEMPHIS  TN       JAMES E. HONEY        D   
  67N   4 43.8  83.620 32.550   0 Bonaire  GA       Ron Dawes           xxD   
  63N   4 44.5  89.888 35.136  88 MEMPHIS  TN       BEN HUDGENS           D   
  49N   4 44.7  91.000 35.367   0 HICKORY  AR       TILLMAN KENNON      xxD   
  42N   4 43.7  83.308 31.938  73 Abbeville, GA     George Burke              
  28N     ***  OLD updated northern limit  ***
  26N   4 44.1  85.991 32.695  42 Jordan, Alabama   Russ Whigham, AuburnASsite
   7N * 4 45.3  97.476 37.728 427 Wichita, KS       Martin Ratcliffe, 11in.C  
   5N   4 46.4 111.040 45.680   0 Bozeman, MT       Montana State Univ.       
   3N   4 43.9  85.042 31.857 131 GEORGETO GA       TONY P. MURRAY        D   
   2N   4 44.1  86.300 32.360   0 Montgmry AL       Whigham & McGraw    xxD   
   0N   4 45.4  98.000 37.877   0 May 8,  4:45:24   Preston, "nominal", May 1
   5S   4 45.2  95.898 36.664 215 Bartlesville, OK  Ken Willcox - C14         
   7S   4 44.8  92.257 34.822 155 NLitRock AR       EdgewoodAcadObsNoEmlxxD   
  11S   4 43.5  81.662 30.329   0 JACKSONV FL       DAVID CRUM,Carney,etcD1   
  15S   4 43.7  83.288 30.847   0 Valdosta GA       Martha Leake        xxD   
  18S   4 44.5  89.385 33.288   0 FrenchCampAcad,MS RainWaterObs C14,32in.N SD
  28S     ***  OLD updated southern limit  ***
  38S   4 46.1 105.583 41.3152187 Laramie, WY       Steve Kunkle              
  39S   4 45.2  95.894 35.975   0 Tulsa, OK         Gerry Mandries (viaD.Stine
  43S   4 43.8  83.880 30.540   0 Lloyd    FL       Stephen Wingreen   xxD1   
  47S   4 46.8 119.416 49.888   0 Kelowna, BC       Guy Mackie                
  47S   4 43.4  81.140 29.470   0 FlaglerB FL       E Noel             xxD1   
  48S   4 46.8 119.466 49.895 364 KELOWNA  BRITISH  BRIAN PETERSON        F   
  55S   4 43.4  81.050 29.290   0 ORMOND B FL       WALTER L. DOBBINS    D1   
  57S   4 46.0 104.704 40.4051459 GREELEY  CO       RICHARD D. DIETZ      C   
  59S   4 46.1 105.080 40.5801400 Fort Collins, CO  Tom Teters, C14           
  61S   4 43.6  82.349 29.643  30 Gainesvl FL       C.Siopis &S.Fisher xxD1   
  68S   4 45.4  97.870 36.400   0 Enid, OK          Astro. Soc., approx.      
  78S   4 46.1 105.110 40.1801524 Longmont, CO      Albers, Steve             
  79S   4 43.6  82.586 29.400  44 Bronson  FL       J.Oliver & H.Cowen xxD1   
  83S      ***  southern limit if shifts 1 path-width south  ***
  86S   4 43.5  81.549 28.901  52 ALTAMONT FL       CentralFLAst.Noeml.xxD1   
  86S   4 44.6  90.183 32.333   0 RIDGELAN MS       SPEER-LYELL Ob.c/oDeg.D   
  91S   4 46.1 105.263 40.0031653 Boulder  CO       Som-BashOb.Emersn+ xx C   
  93S   4 44.6  90.297 32.255   0 JACKSON  MS       BENNY J. ROBERTS      D   
  98S   4 46.1 104.953 39.6761644 Denver   CO       Chamb.Ob. Ansell+  xx C   
  99S   4 46.1 105.391 39.8772728 MtThrodn CO       Richard Keen       xx C   
 101S   4 46.1 105.210 39.7502134 Golden, CO        Bisque, Steve 25cm?       
 102S   4 46.0 104.470 39.3201500 Kiowa    CO       Terry              xx C   
 103S   4 43.4  81.324 28.522  35 ORLANDO  FL       ALEX. Zielant NoEmlxxD1   
 105S   4 46.1 105.100 39.6001895 Littlton CO       M.Olason &P.Ramsey ?? C   
 106S   4 45.4  97.530 35.480   0 Oklahoma City, OK approximate               
 109S   4 46.1 104.838 39.3601948 Castle Rock, CO   Franklin Miller,8inNexstar
 110S   4 43.3  80.598 28.155   8 INDIAN H FL       HAROLD R. POVENMIRE  D1   
 115S   4 43.3  80.633 28.067   0 MELBOURN FL       TERRY D. OSWALT      D1   
 118S   4 46.1 104.900 39.2102100 Larkspur CO       Martin Hale        xx C   
 120S   4 44.2  87.210 30.440   0 Pensacol FL       Merry Wooten       xxD1   
 122S   4 46.1 104.561 38.9482073 Falcon   CO       Ronald Lee         xx C   
 125S   4 43.3  80.517 27.847   0 Sebastian, FL     Richie Bookamer           
 128S   4 46.1 104.883 39.0062185 ColoSpgs CO       AFAcadOb Frazier+  xx C   
 128S   4 46.1 104.760 38.958   0 Colorado Spgs., CODavid M. Brierley         
 131S   4 46.1 104.725 38.8491905 ColoSpgs CO       Brian D. Warner       C   
 133S   4 46.1 104.789 38.8471400 near CO Springs,COChris Wetherill, approx. h
 134S   4 36.1  17.878 28.7612364 La Palma Obs.     Canary Is.                
 137S   4 43.6  82.354 28.271   0 Quail Hollow Ob FLRichard Kowalski          
 139S   4 46.1 105.450 39.0862652 RMSS, CO          Debbie Schermerhorn       
 152S   4 43.6  82.395 28.038   0 TAMPA    FL       THOMAS H CAMPBELL JR.D1   
 152S   4 43.6  82.430 28.039  13 Tampa, FL         Craig MacDougal, 15cmL    
 162S   4 43.4  81.446 27.523  39 Sebring  FL       Chris Stephan      xxD1   
 162S   4 45.0  93.846 32.583   0 Blanchard, LA     CLaude Baines             
 170S   4 45.0  93.621 32.329  49 Shrevprt LA       Krajci  Email bad   xxD   
 174S   4 43.3  80.245 26.916   0 Jupiter, FL       Mike Palermiti            
 182S   4 43.2  80.040 26.710   0 Palm Bch FL       Bush & Fredrickson xxD1   
 190S   4 36.0  16.496 28.2922380 Teide Obs.        Tenerife, Canary Is.      
 194S   4 43.6  82.640 27.390   0 Longboat Key, Fla.Greg Shanos, approximate  
 198S   4 47.0 120.738 47.204 735 Washington        Pryal, Jim 14cm SN site   
 207S   4 45.3  96.670 33.100   0 Allen, TX         Keith Shank, C11 & ST6    
 211S   4 45.3  96.460 32.930   0 Rockwall, TX      Hafey, Chaz               
 212S   4 47.1 122.067 47.762   0 Woodinville, WA   GPS1.5h Ajai Sehgal video 
 214S   4 44.7  91.178 30.412  31 BatonRog LA       LSU Obs, W. Coskrey xxD   
 215S   4 44.5  90.119 29.939   3 NewOrlns LA       Cunningham Ob.NoEml xxD   
 221S   4 47.1 122.150 47.617   0 Seattle, Wash.    Wasserbaech, Steve 9cm    
 222S   4 43.5  81.860 26.630   0 Fort Myers, Fla.  approximate, no observers 
 222S   4 47.1 122.300 47.683   0 Seattle, WA       Kevin Krisciunas, 4.25in. 
 224S   4 35.9  15.450 28.133   0 LasPalmasGranCanryVictor Ruiz, AA de GC, ULP
 227S   4 45.3  96.794 32.786 200 Dallas, TX        Pandt Zimme               
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Below is the detailed path data (but remember the uncertainties!)

 OCCULTATION OF  8.43-MAG. SAO 182707 (Goffin ID HIP 71481, 
 SPECTRAL TYPE K0) BY 337 Devosa  ON  2001 May  8
 MAGNITUDES OF Devosa    = 12.13V AND 12.82 B
 IN VISUAL, DROP AT DISAPPEARANCE= 3.74 
 DIAMETER= 63. KM = 0.055 SECONDS OF ARC, CENTRAL OCCN. = 5.288 SECONDS
 DIAMETER OF STAR=  0.199 ARC MILLISECONDS=   227.5 METERS=  0.918 FRINGES
 CENTRAL TIME TO COVER STAR= 0.0191 SECONDS
 99-PERCENT-SUNLIT WANING MOON  16.8 DEGREES AWAY, SUN  169.74 DEGREES AWAY
 Devosa 1.577587 A.U. FROM EARTH, PHASE ANGLE= 4.0 DEGREES

****  Steve Preston's Prediction adjusted with new FASTT star data  ****
  CENTER PATH IS ABOUT   110. KM WIDE AT THE COORDINATES LISTED BELOW

                      UNIV. TIME  Devosa          SUN       MOON
  LONGITUDE  LATITUDE  H  M   S   ALT.  AZI.   ALT.  AZI.   ALT.

     9.28 W    37.21   4 36 14.5   1.2 235.7  -11.3  58.1   17.8
    10.49 W    36.60   4 36 15.0   2.4 235.0  -12.4  57.4   19.0
    11.71 W    36.01   4 36 16.0   3.5 234.3  -13.6  56.7   20.1
    12.93 W    35.43   4 36 17.3   4.7 233.5  -14.7  56.0   21.2
    14.16 W    34.87   4 36 18.9   5.8 232.8  -15.8  55.2   22.4
    15.39 W    34.32   4 36 21.0   6.9 232.1  -17.0  54.5   23.5
    16.62 W    33.79   4 36 23.4   8.1 231.4  -18.1  53.8   24.6
    17.86 W    33.28   4 36 26.2   9.2 230.7  -19.2  53.0   25.7
    19.10 W    32.79   4 36 29.3  10.3 230.0  -20.4  52.3   26.8
    20.35 W    32.31   4 36 32.8  11.4 229.2  -21.5  51.5   27.9
       ***  part in open Atlantic Ocean cut  ***
    78.92 W    31.52   4 43  5.0  32.7 178.5  -40.9 350.8   40.2
    80.21 W    31.97   4 43 15.0  32.2 177.2  -40.2 349.3   39.4
    81.48 W    32.43   4 43 24.8  31.6 175.9  -39.6 347.8   38.6
    82.76 W    32.91   4 43 34.5  31.1 174.7  -38.9 346.4   37.8
    84.03 W    33.41   4 43 44.0  30.5 173.4  -38.1 345.1   36.9
    85.29 W    33.93   4 43 53.3  29.8 172.2  -37.4 343.7   36.0
    86.55 W    34.46   4 44  2.5  29.2 171.0  -36.6 342.4   35.0
    87.81 W    35.01   4 44 11.5  28.5 169.8  -35.7 341.2   34.1
    89.07 W    35.57   4 44 20.2  27.7 168.6  -34.9 339.9   33.1
    90.32 W    36.16   4 44 28.7  26.9 167.5  -34.0 338.7   32.1
    91.56 W    36.75   4 44 37.0  26.1 166.3  -33.1 337.6   31.1
    92.81 W    37.37   4 44 45.1  25.3 165.2  -32.1 336.4   30.0
    94.05 W    38.00   4 44 52.9  24.4 164.2  -31.2 335.3   29.0
    95.29 W    38.64   4 45  0.5  23.6 163.1  -30.2 334.2   27.9
    96.52 W    39.30   4 45  7.8  22.7 162.0  -29.2 333.1   26.8
    97.75 W    39.97   4 45 14.8  21.7 161.0  -28.1 332.1   25.7
    98.98 W    40.66   4 45 21.5  20.8 160.0  -27.1 331.1   24.6
   100.21 W    41.36   4 45 27.9  19.8 159.0  -26.0 330.1   23.5
   101.43 W    42.07   4 45 34.0  18.8 158.0  -25.0 329.1   22.4
   102.65 W    42.80   4 45 39.9  17.8 157.0  -23.9 328.1   21.3
   103.87 W    43.54   4 45 45.4  16.8 156.0  -22.8 327.1   20.2
   105.09 W    44.29   4 45 50.5  15.7 155.0  -21.7 326.2   19.0
   106.31 W    45.05   4 45 55.4  14.7 154.1  -20.6 325.2   17.9
   107.53 W    45.83   4 45 59.9  13.6 153.1  -19.5 324.3   16.7
   108.75 W    46.61   4 46  4.1  12.5 152.2  -18.4 323.3   15.6
   109.97 W    47.41   4 46  7.9  11.4 151.2  -17.2 322.4   14.4
   111.19 W    48.22   4 46 11.4  10.3 150.2  -16.1 321.5   13.3
   112.42 W    49.04   4 46 14.5   9.2 149.3  -14.9 320.5   12.2
   113.64 W    49.87   4 46 17.3   8.1 148.3  -13.8 319.6   11.0
   114.87 W    50.71   4 46 19.7   7.0 147.4  -12.7 318.6    9.9
   116.10 W    51.55   4 46 21.7   5.8 146.4  -11.5 317.7    8.7
   117.34 W    52.41   4 46 23.4   4.7 145.4  -10.4 316.7    7.6
 
 TRACK    0 CENTER FOR   337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.     W. LONG.   LAT.
 78.000  31 12.7   89.000  35 32.6  100.000  41 14.2    111.000  48  5.4
 79.000  31 32.8   90.000  36  0.4  101.000  41 49.0    112.000  48 45.5
 80.000  31 53.6   91.000  36 28.9  102.000  42 24.4    113.000  49 25.9
 81.000  32 15.1   92.000  36 58.0  103.000  43  0.3    114.000  50  6.6
 82.000  32 37.4   93.000  37 27.8  104.000  43 36.7    115.000  50 47.6
 83.000  33  0.3   94.000  37 58.3  105.000  44 13.7    116.000  51 28.9
 84.000  33 24.0   95.000  38 29.4  106.000  44 51.2    117.000  52 10.4
 85.000  33 48.3   96.000  39  1.1  107.000  45 29.1    118.000  52 52.0
 86.000  34 13.4   97.000  39 33.5  108.000  46  7.6    119.000  53 33.8
 87.000  34 39.1   98.000  40  6.4  109.000  46 46.4  
 88.000  35  5.5   99.000  40 40.0  110.000  47 25.7  
 
 AT U.T.  4 43  0, W. LONG.=   78.287, LAT.=  31.306
 AT U.T.  4 44  0, W. LONG.=   86.206, LAT.=  34.310
 AT U.T.  4 45  0, W. LONG.=   95.208, LAT.=  38.598
 AT U.T.  4 46  0, W. LONG.=  107.558, LAT.=  45.842
 
 TRACK   27 NORTH  FOR   337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.    W. LONG.   LAT.     W. LONG.   LAT.
 78.000  31 44.9   89.000  36  7.3  100.000  41 52.5    111.000  48 48.6
 79.000  32  5.2   90.000  36 35.4  101.000  42 27.7    112.000  49 29.2
 80.000  32 26.2   91.000  37  4.1  102.000  43  3.5    113.000  50 10.1
 81.000  32 47.9   92.000  37 33.6  103.000  43 39.8    114.000  50 51.4
 82.000  33 10.4   93.000  38  3.7  104.000  44 16.7    115.000  51 32.9
 83.000  33 33.5   94.000  38 34.4  105.000  44 54.1    116.000  52 14.7
 84.000  33 57.4   95.000  39  5.9  106.000  45 32.0    117.000  52 56.7
 85.000  34 22.0   96.000  39 37.9  107.000  46 10.4    118.000  53 38.9
 86.000  34 47.3   97.000  40 10.7  108.000  46 49.3    119.000  54 21.2
 87.000  35 13.3   98.000  40 44.0  109.000  47 28.7 
 88.000  35 39.9   99.000  41 18.0  110.000  48  8.5 
 
 TRACK   27 SOUTH  FOR   337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.     W. LONG.   LAT.     
 78.000  30 40.9   89.000  34 58.5  100.000  40 36.7    111.000  47 23.3
 79.000  31  0.9   90.000  35 26.1  101.000  41 11.1    112.000  48  2.9
 80.000  31 21.5   91.000  35 54.2  102.000  41 46.1    113.000  48 42.8
 81.000  31 42.9   92.000  36 23.1  103.000  42 21.6    114.000  49 23.1
 82.000  32  4.9   93.000  36 52.6  104.000  42 57.6    115.000  50  3.6
 83.000  32 27.6   94.000  37 22.7  105.000  43 34.2    116.000  50 44.4
 84.000  32 51.1   95.000  37 53.5  106.000  44 11.2    117.000  51 25.4
 85.000  33 15.2   96.000  38 24.9  107.000  44 48.8    118.000  52  6.5
 86.000  33 40.0   97.000  38 57.0  108.000  45 26.8    119.000  52 47.8
 87.000  34  5.5   98.000  39 29.6  109.000  46  5.2    120.000  53 29.2
 88.000  34 31.7   99.000  40  2.8  110.000  46 44.1 
   ___________________________________________________________________

****  Steve Preston's Prediction using TYC-2 star data  ****
  CENTER PATH IS ABOUT 105. KM WIDE AT THE COORDINATES LISTED BELOW

                      UNIV. TIME  Devosa          SUN       MOON
  LONGITUDE  LATITUDE  H  M   S   ALT.  AZI.   ALT.  AZI.   ALT.

    13.08 W    33.30   4 36 10.3   6.1 233.6  -16.0  56.3   22.7
    14.35 W    32.74   4 36 12.5   7.2 232.9  -17.2  55.6   23.9
    15.62 W    32.19   4 36 15.0   8.4 232.2  -18.4  54.9   25.0
    16.90 W    31.67   4 36 17.9   9.6 231.5  -19.6  54.1   26.2
    18.18 W    31.16   4 36 21.1  10.7 230.8  -20.7  53.4   27.3
    19.46 W    30.67   4 36 24.8  11.9 230.0  -21.9  52.6   28.5
    20.75 W    30.20   4 36 28.7  13.0 229.3  -23.1  51.9   29.6
        *** portion across open Atlantic Ocean removed ***
    78.43 W    29.42   4 43  3.9  34.8 179.0  -43.0 351.1   42.3
    79.76 W    29.86   4 43 14.4  34.3 177.7  -42.4 349.5   41.5
    81.08 W    30.32   4 43 24.9  33.8 176.3  -41.7 348.0   40.7
    82.39 W    30.80   4 43 35.1  33.2 174.9  -41.0 346.5   39.8
    83.70 W    31.29   4 43 45.2  32.6 173.6  -40.3 345.0   38.9
    85.01 W    31.80   4 43 55.2  32.0 172.3  -39.5 343.6   38.0
    86.32 W    32.33   4 44  4.9  31.3 171.0  -38.7 342.2   37.0
    87.62 W    32.88   4 44 14.5  30.6 169.8  -37.8 340.9   36.0
    88.92 W    33.44   4 44 23.9  29.8 168.6  -36.9 339.6   35.0
    90.21 W    34.02   4 44 33.0  29.0 167.4  -36.0 338.3   34.0
    91.50 W    34.62   4 44 41.9  28.2 166.2  -35.1 337.1   32.9
    92.79 W    35.23   4 44 50.6  27.4 165.0  -34.1 335.9   31.8
    94.07 W    35.86   4 44 59.0  26.5 163.9  -33.1 334.7   30.7
    95.35 W    36.50   4 45  7.2  25.6 162.8  -32.1 333.6   29.6
    96.63 W    37.16   4 45 15.0  24.7 161.7  -31.0 332.5   28.5
    97.91 W    37.83   4 45 22.7  23.7 160.6  -30.0 331.4   27.4
    99.18 W    38.52   4 45 30.0  22.7 159.5  -28.9 330.3   26.2
   100.45 W    39.22   4 45 37.0  21.7 158.5  -27.8 329.3   25.1
   101.72 W    39.94   4 45 43.7  20.7 157.4  -26.7 328.3   23.9
   102.99 W    40.67   4 45 50.1  19.7 156.4  -25.6 327.3   22.7
   104.26 W    41.41   4 45 56.2  18.6 155.4  -24.4 326.3   21.6
   105.52 W    42.16   4 46  1.9  17.5 154.4  -23.3 325.3   20.4
   106.79 W    42.93   4 46  7.3  16.4 153.4  -22.1 324.3   19.2
   108.06 W    43.71   4 46 12.4  15.3 152.4  -21.0 323.4   18.0
   109.33 W    44.50   4 46 17.1  14.2 151.5  -19.8 322.4   16.8
   110.59 W    45.30   4 46 21.5  13.1 150.5  -18.6 321.5   15.6
   111.87 W    46.12   4 46 25.5  11.9 149.5  -17.5 320.5   14.4
   113.14 W    46.94   4 46 29.1  10.8 148.5  -16.3 319.6   13.2
   114.42 W    47.78   4 46 32.4   9.6 147.6  -15.1 318.6   12.0
   115.70 W    48.62   4 46 35.3   8.5 146.6  -13.9 317.6   10.8
   116.99 W    49.47   4 46 37.8   7.3 145.6  -12.7 316.7    9.7
   118.28 W    50.34   4 46 39.9   6.1 144.6  -11.5 315.7    8.5
 
 CENTER FOR   337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.     
 78.000  29 17.1   89.000  33 28.6  100.000  38 58.2  111.000  45 33.7
 79.000  29 36.6   90.000  33 55.5  101.000  39 31.7  112.000  46 12.2
 80.000  29 56.7   91.000  34 23.0  102.000  40  5.7  113.000  46 51.0
 81.000  30 17.6   92.000  34 51.1  103.000  40 40.3  114.000  47 30.1
 82.000  30 39.1   93.000  35 19.9  104.000  41 15.4  115.000  48  9.5
 83.000  31  1.3   94.000  35 49.3  105.000  41 50.9  116.000  48 49.1
 84.000  31 24.2   95.000  36 19.3  106.000  42 27.0  117.000  49 29.0
 85.000  31 47.8   96.000  36 49.9  107.000  43  3.5  118.000  50  9.0
 86.000  32 12.0   97.000  37 21.1  108.000  43 40.4  119.000  50 49.1
 87.000  32 36.9   98.000  37 52.9  109.000  44 17.8  120.000  51 29.4
 88.000  33  2.4   99.000  38 25.3  110.000  44 55.6 
 
 AT U.T.  4 44  0, W. LONG.=   85.654, LAT.=  32.059
 AT U.T.  4 45  0, W. LONG.=   94.228, LAT.=  35.934
 AT U.T.  4 46  0, W. LONG.=  105.091, LAT.=  41.903
 
 Northern limit for 337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.     
 78.000  29 47.7   89.000  34  1.3  100.000  39 33.9  111.000  46 13.3
 79.000  30  7.3   90.000  34 28.4  101.000  40  7.7  112.000  46 52.2
 80.000  30 27.6   91.000  34 56.2  102.000  40 42.1  113.000  47 31.4
 81.000  30 48.7   92.000  35 24.5  103.000  41 17.0  114.000  48 10.9
 82.000  31 10.4   93.000  35 53.6  104.000  41 52.4  115.000  48 50.6
 83.000  31 32.8   94.000  36 23.2  105.000  42 28.3  116.000  49 30.7
 84.000  31 55.9   95.000  36 53.5  106.000  43  4.7  117.000  50 10.9
 85.000  32 19.6   96.000  37 24.4  107.000  43 41.6  118.000  50 51.3
 86.000  32 44.0   97.000  37 55.9  108.000  44 18.9  119.000  51 31.9
 87.000  33  9.1   98.000  38 28.0  109.000  44 56.6  120.000  52 12.5
 88.000  33 34.9   99.000  39  0.6  110.000  45 34.8

 Southern limit for 337 Devosa     SAO 182707  DATE 2001 May  8
 W. LONG.   LAT.   W. LONG.   LAT.    W. LONG.   LAT.    W. LONG.   LAT.     
 78.000  28 46.9   89.000  32 56.4   100.000  38 23.1   111.000  44 55.0
 79.000  29  6.2   90.000  33 23.0   101.000  38 56.3   112.000  45 33.1
 80.000  29 26.2   91.000  33 50.3   102.000  39 30.0   113.000  46 11.5
 81.000  29 46.9   92.000  34 18.2   103.000  40  4.3   114.000  46 50.3
 82.000  30  8.3   93.000  34 46.7   104.000  40 39.0   115.000  47 29.3
 83.000  30 30.3   94.000  35 15.8   105.000  41 14.3   116.000  48  8.5
 84.000  30 53.0   95.000  35 45.6   106.000  41 50.0   117.000  48 48.0
 85.000  31 16.4   96.000  36 15.9   107.000  42 26.2   118.000  49 27.6
 86.000  31 40.4   97.000  36 46.9   108.000  43  2.8   119.000  50  7.4
 87.000  32  5.1   98.000  37 18.4   109.000  43 39.8   120.000  50 47.3
 88.000  32 30.4   99.000  37 50.5   110.000  44 17.2
   ___________________________________________________________________

Min. Geocentric     Comparison Data
  U. T.   Sep.   "     paths  Time
 h   m    "                     m
 4 40.8  4.54N  0.0    0.0     0.0  E. Goffin nominal, in S&T
 4 41.3  4.56N  0.02N  0.4N   +0.5  Preston with new FASTT star position
 4 41.4  4.46N  0.08S  1.5S   +0.6  Steve Preston's May 1 update

More data for the minor planet and its orbit are given on the IOTA
Web site.
______________________________________________________________________ 

2.  Path for difficult Monday morning occultation of 11.8-mag. by (345) 
Tercidina now expected over w. Louisiana, Little Rock, central Missouri, 
eastern Iowa, Minneapolis, Duluth, & Isthmus of Tehuantepec area of 
Mexico.
                 IOTA/IOTA-ES occultation update for 
         (345) Tercinda/TYC 5714-0335 event on 2001 May 07, 09:14 UT
                  visible from Mexico to central USA
Summary
-------
On the morning (UTC) of 2001 May 07 (early morning local time of 2001 
May 07) the 100 km diameter (subtends 0.08") asteroid (345) Tercinda 
will occult a 11.8 mag star in the constellation Sagittarius for 
observers along a path from Mexico north through central USA. 

In case of an occultation the combined light of the asteroid and the 
star will drop by 1.5 mag to 13.0 mag (the magnitude of the asteroid) 
for at most 17.3 seconds. 

This the second update for this event due to new positional data for the 
star from UCAC and the path has moved approximately 1 path width to the 
East. 

This update is based on orbital data from AstDys and on the UCAC 
position for the star. 

The event at one glimpse
-------------------------
  * date and approx. UT time of event: 2001 May 07, 08:57 - 09:30 UT
  * magnitude of target star: 11.8
  * magnitude drop [mag]: 1.5
  * estimated maximum duration [s]: 16.2
  * Moon: 100% sunlit, 61 deg. distance
  * Sun: 121 deg. distance
  * rough path description: Mexico, central USA

The occultation path
---------------------
    * approximate projected width [km]: 100
    * RMS uncertainty interval [path widths]: +/- 2.2
    * RMS uncertainty interval RA,DEC ["]: (+/- .160,  +/- .140)
    * website for maps:
          http://lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm
          http://www.oz.net/~stevepr/Asteroids/asteroid.htm
   The path is about 6 path-widths west of E. Goffin's nominal path.

Center of path:
Occultation of 5714 0335 by 345 Tercidina on 2001 May 07 
                                       Altitude
  E. Longitude    Latitude     U.T.   star   sun
      o  '  "     o  '  "    h  m  s     o     o
   - 95 17 26    10  0  0    9 19 23    63   -38
   - 95  9 31    11  0  0    9 19 41    63   -37
   - 95  1 53    12  0  0    9 19 60    62   -36
   - 94 54 33    13  0  0    9 20 18    61   -36
   - 94 47 29    14  0  0    9 20 36    60   -35

   - 94 40 42    15  0  0    9 20 54    60   -34
   - 94 34 12    16  0  0    9 21 12    59   -34
   - 94 27 57    17  0  0    9 21 29    58   -33
   - 94 21 58    18  0  0    9 21 47    57   -32
   - 94 16 15    19  0  0    9 22  4    56   -31

   - 94 10 47    20  0  0    9 22 21    55   -31
   - 94  5 35    21  0  0    9 22 38    55   -30
   - 94  0 37    22  0  0    9 22 55    54   -29
   - 93 55 54    23  0  0    9 23 11    53   -29
   - 93 51 27    24  0  0    9 23 27    52   -28

   - 93 47 14    25  0  0    9 23 43    51   -27
   - 93 43 16    26  0  0    9 23 59    50   -27
   - 93 39 33    27  0  0    9 24 15    49   -26
   - 93 36  6    28  0  0    9 24 30    48   -25
   - 93 32 53    29  0  0    9 24 45    47   -25

   - 93 29 56    30  0  0    9 25  0    46   -24
   - 93 27 14    31  0  0    9 25 15    46   -23
   - 93 24 49    32  0  0    9 25 30    45   -22
   - 93 22 39    33  0  0    9 25 44    44   -22
   - 93 20 46    34  0  0    9 25 58    43   -21

   - 93 19 10    35  0  0    9 26 12    42   -20
   - 93 17 51    36  0  0    9 26 25    41   -20
   - 93 16 51    37  0  0    9 26 38    40   -19
   - 93 16  9    38  0  0    9 26 51    39   -18
   - 93 15 46    39  0  0    9 27  4    38   -18

   - 93 15 43    40  0  0    9 27 17    37   -17
   - 93 16  2    41  0  0    9 27 29    36   -16
   - 93 16 42    42  0  0    9 27 41    35   -16
   - 93 17 45    43  0  0    9 27 52    34   -15
   - 93 19 13    44  0  0    9 28  4    33   -14

   - 93 21  6    45  0  0    9 28 15    32   -14
   - 93 23 27    46  0  0    9 28 25    31   -13
   - 93 26 16    47  0  0    9 28 36    30   -12
   - 93 29 35    48  0  0    9 28 46    29   -12
   - 93 33 28    49  0  0    9 28 56    28   -11

   - 93 37 55    50  0  0    9 29  5    27   -10
   - 93 43  0    51  0  0    9 29 14    26   -10
   - 93 48 45    52  0  0    9 29 23    25    -9
   - 93 55 14    53  0  0    9 29 32    24    -8
   - 94  2 30    54  0  0    9 29 40    23    -8

   - 94 10 38    55  0  0    9 29 48    22    -7
   - 94 19 41    56  0  0    9 29 56    21    -6

Data for the target star
--------------------------
 * name:	TYC 5714-0335
 * constellation: Saggitarius
 * J2000 position with proper motion to date of event:
   RA 19h 00m 59.009s, DEC -12 deg. 01' 10.46"
 * position source: UCAC,TYCHO-2
 * standard error: RA,DE ["]: (.033", .033")
 * V mag [mag]: 11.8

More Data for the minor planet and its orbit are on the Web site.
--------------------------

Good luck with your observations!

David Dunham, IOTA, 2001 May 4, 6:30 pm EDT

Joan and David Dunham
7006 Megan Lane
Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-4722
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 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 
 Astronomy consultant/teacher - Project From the Ground Up- Harvard University
member, Astronomical Society of Kansas City

from sky & telescope
COMET LINEAR SPLITS IN TWO

About a month ago, amateur astronomers around the world noticed that

Comet LINEAR (C/2001 A2) brightened significantly and somewhat

prematurely. In fact, during the last week of March the comet went

from magnitude 13 to 8 in a matter of days -- a hundredfold increase

in brightness. By April 25th, Mike Begbie of Harare, Zimbabwe, could

even see the comet with his naked eye.


Early predictions suggested that the comet was never going to be

brighter than 9th, even then not until a month after it reached

perihelion (its closest point to the Sun) on May 24th. Professional

and amateur astronomers alike were perplexed as to what could have

caused the sudden outburst. Now they believe they have their answer.


Observations taken April 30th with the Catalina 1.54-meter telescope

on Mount Bigelow, Arizona, by C. W. Hergenrother, M. Chamberlin, and

Y. Chamberlain (University of Arizona) clearly show that Comet LINEAR

has broken into two pieces. Currently, the fragments are separated by

some 3.5 arcseconds and together are as bright as magnitude 6.3. It

seems likely that the sudden brightening resulted from the initial

split, says Charles Morris (Jet Propulsion Laboratory).


This certainly isn't the first time a naked-eye comet has broken up on

its approach to the inner solar system. Last year the crumbling of

Comet LINEAR (C/1999 S4) was noted by amateur and professional

astronomers using instruments ranging from backyard telescopes to the

Hubble Space Telescope.


See the Special Sky Events page

(http://www.skypub.com/sights/skyevents/0105skyevents.shtml ) for

LINEAR's predicted location and brightness throughout 

May. Currently, the comet is visible only from the Southern

Hemisphere, high in the west after sunset. Coordinates for

Comet LINEAR at 0 hours Universal Time for the coming week:


R.A. Dec.

May 5 5h 51m -17.8 deg.

May 7 5 50 -18.6

May 9 5 48 -19.4

May 11 5 46 -20.2

Hey, I had heard a rumor about that.  I am certainly willing to be 
contacted by visitors, and you are welcome to post my e-address (amyhahn@... ) for that 
purpose... but I confess to being nervous about being asked questions that may 
require answers above the most basic levels, astro-wise.  Perhaps it could 
be "ask an askc member?..."  Or, I may be worrying for nothing, and will be 
able to foist off the tough ones on more knowledgeable 
members.         amy


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From:  

To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 4/30/01 10:11:07 PM 

Subject: [ASKC] Web Page Updates





Many thanks to those who have brought to my attention corrections

need on the webpages. I have also done some updating. 

As of today the following has been completed:

 

1) Corrected the email address on the copyright notice at the bottom 

of the page. It was directed to the old SoundNet account. It now 

reflects the new email address askconline@... 

 

2) Added Amy Hahn as an "ask an astronomer" person (Amy - make sure I 


have the right email address for you)

 

3) Changed David Young's email address on the observatory page for 

"email contacting" for star parties

 

4) Added link to MidStates Convention on the front page

 

5) May Calendar is now up

 

6) David Hudgins sent me some great star party photos. Those are now 

on the "slideshow" page. I did some reorganizing here, so when you 

click on the "Slide Shows" link, it will take you to a page so you

can select what you want to view

 

7) Still need to update the Awards page! SCOTT -  Need names of

people who have received awards in the past 3 months along with what 

certificates they have received.

 

8) DAVID YOUNG -  Need information for May guest speaker as soon as 


you have something

 

On other notes:

 

Shelley will be sending me her library database, which will be on the 


web as soon as I get it. This will give you an opportunity to see

what we have in our treasure trove of books, tapes and videos.

 

Many of you know Myrna Bishop, our astronomical bookseller. She is 

reducing her inventory, and will soon have many astronomical related 

books for sale (at a substantially reduced price)on her website: 

www.astronomybooksonline.com 

I still have to convert her database into web-readble pages, but that 


should occur in the next day or so, and then the pages will

available. 

If you have been looking for some of those rare, out of print, or 

specific topic astronomy books at some of the other booksellers 

online, be sure and browse her online catalog. She may have what you 

are looking for! 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

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Headed to Powell tonight for probable smoke test on new camera after the public program.


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Monitors are no longer available.



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Amy:  That's what I do.  If I can't answer the question I try to find
someone who can.
Thanks for helping out.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Hahn [mailto:amyhahn@...]

Hey, I had heard a rumor about that.  I am certainly willing to be
contacted by visitors, and you are welcome to post my e-address
(amyhahn@... ) for that
purpose... but I confess to being nervous about being asked questions that
may
require answers above the most basic levels, astro-wise.  Perhaps it could
be "ask an askc member?..."  Or, I may be worrying for nothing, and will be
able to foist off the tough ones on more knowledgeable
members.         amy














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We couldn't get the camera to talk to the computer last night.

More tinkering later.



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I found a possible problem with our setup method. Look on page 6 of the Initialization Files documentation under CCDSoft. I remember you upgrading the CCDSoft but I don't recall if you went into settings and selected the ini file after you did it. If not, it wouldn't work even after we intalled the util32.dll file. I'll try hooking the camera up to my computer later today and try that theory. I'll try it before and after the upgrade since I have the old version on my computer.


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I see some interest in timing that asteroid occultation from Powell.

How many want to give it a try?


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Walt,
Some interest has been shown in making an attempt to time this occultation from Powell. We would have to do it by voice/tape recorder/wwv radio since we do not have a suitable video camera. I don't know if we will get a hole in the clouds at the right time but it might be fun to give it a try.


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oops.  Apparently ccdsoft is not properly installed on my computer so I can't test the camera. Does anyone have the serial number of our copy? I think I have all the software but can't install without the serial number.


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Hi Folks,
Attahed for your reading interest is a summary of results from the
recent ASKC member survey.Wow! what a bunch of good ideas!

I  am hoping that with this good information the club and Board will be
able to make some improvements that you have asked for in this survey.

There are several ideas, suggestions, and (yep!) complaints that appear
over and over again...so I hear a lot of agreement among members about
some things that we need to do. Read the summary, see if it seems to
agree with your observations, and hopefully we can talk more about it in
the coming weeks.

Thanks! Dave H.


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Hi Folks!  Yike, I just realized that the egroups system does *not*
attach a file. So my last message was probably frustrating to you.
Sorry! Let me try to figure out how to upload it.
Dave

Hi Folks! OK, the survey results are available at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/

It's about the third file from the top. Interesting Reading, great
ideas!

Dave H.

David:  Thanks for the Survey Results upload.  This will require some study
by the ASKC board and all ASKC members to bring out the best ideas.
However, you can't please everyone on any single item.  People are too
diversified.

How many people responded?  Where is the 3-ring binder with all of the
respones?

It's amazing tht 76% of the people that responded have many years experience
in the hobby, and 62% said we do not do enough to welcome and help visitors
and new members.  What are the 76% experienced people doing?   Waiting for
some else to do that work?

Tom Martinez

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:59 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] Survey Results uploaded!


Hi Folks! OK, the survey results are available at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/

It's about the third file from the top. Interesting Reading, great
ideas!

Dave H.






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sound like fun to me.
                                                                gil
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: [ASKC] occultaion


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The MidStates Region of the Astronomical League Website has been updated
with lots of photos from last year's 50th anniversary convention held here
in Kansas City.  The URL is:
http://www.sky.net/~martinez/msr/

While you are in there click on the "black monolith" to log on the website
for this year's convention.  If you want to get there quicker:
http://www.propermotion.com/msral/

A bunch of us ASKCers who haven't missed a convention in years are staying
at the Motel 6 of Conway.  It's actually cheaper than the dormitories at the
college.

Tom Martinez, Historian: ASKC & MSRAL

--- In IOTAoccultations@y..., Joan and David Dunham <dunham@e...> 
wrote:
     Thanks to several responses during the last 24 hours, the 
coverage for the Devosa event is improving, although more observers 
would be better, to really allow determining the shape of this 
medium-sized asteroid.  Please respond if you are not in the list 
below and plan to try to observe the occultation.  I hope to issue 
one last update probably just before 5 pm CDT (22h UT May 7) 
tomorrow (Monday).  There is still a rather large gap between Topeka 
and Wichita that now includes some observers, but the current 
forecast for Hickory, AR is questionable and the others are farther 
east where they will most likely be clouded out.  As of now, there 
is no new information about the path, although Steve Preston agrees 
with me that the southward-trending recent residuals could very well 
mean that the path may shift a large fraction of a path-width south 
of one of the two predictions indicated below.  If any new 
observations are available by tomorrow afternoon, I will try to 
update the prediction for the last-distributed update.  

     For those who don't have short-wave receivers for CHU or WWV 
time signals, record the strong Chicago AM standard-broadcast 
station WLS at 890 kilohertz during the five minutes that the shadow 
will be passing over North America; I will make a master tape of it 
and WWV.  Sorry, I had to use my previous list for this message, 
without updates, and not removing those, for instance, in places 
like Illinois, Wisconsin, and Texas who are near the occultation of 
the faint star path tonight, but not near the Devosa path.

     The current Accuweather forecast has changed a little from 
before, now good from Wyoming to Missouri, and also for northern 
Florida and southern Alberta.  It will be cloudy in Arkansas until 
about 9 pm, when the low clouds are expected to retreat eastward, 
leaving a fair amount of cirrus that could still prevent observation 
of the event there.  Prospects still look bleak, with almost 
complete overcast, expected at event time from Memphis to Georgia 
(including the southwestern and northeastern portions), but there 
could be breaks.  To the south, the situation improves, with now 
only scattered cirrus forecast for Jacksonville.  Now it is 
expected to be mostly cloudy with low cirrus in western Montana, 
but better to the north near Calgary.

     Below is the track and time information, as before, but now for 
all observers who have said that they plan to try to observe the 
event.  Art Lucas, since the Jacksonville chord is rather close to 
yours, it would be better if you observed about 10 miles farther 
south of the location near Ponca City that you have selected, to get 
a better spread of the observations; that will be needed if both the 
southern path (HIP/TYC star position) and the southern trend of the 
declination residuals are correct.  I will try to observe myself 
from either near 30N or 70N, probably the more northern location if 
it looks like it will clear up in time in Hickory, AR.  My flight 
arrives in Kansas City at 9:41 am, and sometime after that I will 
have my car phone on at 301-526-5590.  But the batteries are a 
little low and I will need to charge other equipment with the 
battery in my rental car, so it may die before I get very far away 
from Kansas City.  I plan to visit Martin Ratcliffe in Wichita 
between about 3 pm and 5 pm CDT, at 316-773-1228, e-mail
mratcliffe@e..., and I will go online with this account,
dunham@e... from there, and hopefully also around 7-8 pm from a 
motel near my selected observation site, if possible.

     Good luck with your observations!

Track    U.T.  W.Long.  Lat.    h City/  Country    Observer or
      ? h   m     o      o      m  Town             Observatory

 133N * 4 45.0  94.806 39.048 297 BONNER S KS       WALTER L. ROBINSON 
   C   
 131N     ***  NEW Northern Limit with new FASTT star data  ***
 120N W 4 43.6  82.525 33.160 160 Augusta, GA       Roger Venable     
        
 117N * 4 45.0  94.700 38.646 325 Louisburg, KS     Powell Obs. 30", 
ACKC     
 113N W 4 44.2  86.781 34.768 230 Madison, AL       David Nance, C8   
        
 108N ? 4 45.2  95.794 39.024 315 Topeka, KS        Richard Wilds, 7"R 
       
 103N     ***  NEW CENTER with new FASTT star data  ***
  80N W 4 43.6  82.442 32.343  82 Soperton, GA      Jeff Lackmeyer 
8in.       
  75N     ***  NEW Southern Limit with new FASTT star data  ***
  63N W 4 44.5  89.888 35.136  88 MEMPHIS  TN       BEN HUDGENS       
    D   
  50N ? 4 44.7  90.999 35.390   0 Hickory, AR       Tillman Kennon    
        
  28N     ***  OLD updated northern limit  ***
   7N * 4 45.3  97.476 37.728 427 Wichita, KS       Martin Ratcliffe, 
11in.C  
   3N W 4 43.9  85.042 31.857 131 GEORGETO GA       TONY P. MURRAY    
    D   
   0N   4 45.4  98.000 37.877   0 May 8,  4:45:24   Preston, 
"nominal", May 1
  22S * 4 43.5  81.624 30.098   0 Jacksonville, FL  Greg Zentz        
        
  26S * 4 45.3  96.700 36.650   0 Ponca City, OK    Art Lucas mobile  
        
  28S     ***  OLD updated southern limit  ***
  68S ? 4 45.4  97.870 36.400   0 Enid, OK          Astro. Soc., 
approx.      
  83S      ***  southern limit if shifts 1 path-width south  ***
  99S * 4 46.1 105.391 39.8772728 MtThrodn CO       Richard Keen      
 xx C   
 152S * 4 43.6  82.430 28.039  13 Tampa, FL         Craig MacDougal, 
15cmL    
 190S * 4 36.0  16.496 28.2922380 Teide Obs.        Tenerife, Canary 
Is.      

David Dunham, IOTA, late Sunday evening, May 6 PDT


Joan and David Dunham
7006 Megan Lane
Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-4722
dunham@e...
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Does any one know where the parts for using the 12" visually are stored or
even if they are at the observatory?
I really kinda need to know before I go out there. Are there any eyepeices
for it ? If anyone knows could you call e at 816-305-7075 some time today so
I will be ready for this occultation tonight. Thanks Shelley

My Wife and I were at Powell Sat night for the program etc. Although 
we have been members of the club for 2 years, this was my wifes first 
night at powell and my 2nd. Of course we were thought to be visitors 
and not club members. I noticed several members were wearing T-shirts 
with club logo etc. Would someone advise where we could obtain these 
shirts? Thanks.

Bill

They are sold at every club meeting.

Keep looking up,

Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: bvkirk@... <bvkirk@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Powell


>My Wife and I were at Powell Sat night for the program etc. Although 
>we have been members of the club for 2 years, this was my wifes first 
>night at powell and my 2nd. Of course we were thought to be visitors 
>and not club members. I noticed several members were wearing T-shirts 
>with club logo etc. Would someone advise where we could obtain these 
>shirts? Thanks.
>
>Bill
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>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
>
>

  I noticed several members were wearing T-shirts 
  with club logo etc. Would someone advise where we could obtain these 
  shirts? Thanks.


  They are sold at each general meeting. Sometimes the t-shirt person has them at Powell as well.



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Yes, Tom.... and a certain member of the Machin Family will really
appreciate the very last picture in the group from the 2000 convention --
suberb shot!!!

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:18 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] MidStates Regional Convention Webpage update


The MidStates Region of the Astronomical League Website has been updated
with lots of photos from last year's 50th anniversary convention held here
in Kansas City.  The URL is:
http://www.sky.net/~martinez/msr/

While you are in there click on the "black monolith" to log on the website
for this year's convention.  If you want to get there quicker:
http://www.propermotion.com/msral/

A bunch of us ASKCers who haven't missed a convention in years are staying
at the Motel 6 of Conway.  It's actually cheaper than the dormitories at the
college.

Tom Martinez, Historian: ASKC & MSRAL






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I spoke with both Bob Sandy and Shelly Granger today and discussed that
there should be no shortage of equipment at Powell with which to time
this occultation.  I also said that I would be there by 9:00.  (The
occultation is at 11:45.)

Kyle.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: [ASKC] occultaion


> I see some interest in timing that asteroid occultation from Powell.
>
> How many want to give it a try?

Folk's - I have received a request from the Shepard's Center (a
retirement/elderly folks charitable operation) that wants one or group
of people to come talk to their people for 50 minute astronomy programs
June 22- 27, or Aug 3 - 24. So sort of a five week astronomy "class".
But this is during the day - on Fridays around 10AM.

Are there one or better - a group of people who might be able and
willing to do these astronomy programs for the Shepard's Center?

Dave H.

everything that could go wrong did last night . First the software on the 
scope had a glitch which we could not figure out (it said we were below the 
horizon ) and we could not figure how to correct it.

THe ccd camera could not be attached to the big scope either. 

I suggest a parts list and partial listing of instructions for future 
reference at the observtory and numbers to call for specific problems.

I am disappointed we could at least view the occulation.
sigh :(

I took a photo of asteroid Pallas last Sat on my own.

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

Many thanks to Mark and Gina for testing the new camera for us. As most of you know, we could not get CCDSoft to connect on our first try at Powell.

Mark and Gina's MaximDL connected immediately so we know it is not a bad camera. We have a column defect near the middle of the chip similar to the defect that Mark and Gina's camera has. We also have a strange little group of defects in one corner. These were corrected by a dark frame. The camera cools slower than the SBIGs we are used to. Ours cooled a little better than Mark and Gina's. All in all an acceptable piece of equipment and it should be well suited for our purpose. Mark will send me the tweaked .ini file he worked out with Apogee along with the test images he took of M3. I'll post them on the ASKC and NASA group file area so you can all see them. 

Mark recommended a dedicated computer for the AP8P to minimize artifacts in the images caused by processor sharing. This would also eliminate the need to change a lot of settings when switching from the ST9E to the AP8P. Something to think about. 

We need to figure out what the problem is with CCDSoft or purchase MaximDL from Apogee. We have $1705.00 of grant money to spend on software and other supporting hardware.


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Some time ago Mr. Truitt had asked for help with an astronomy program for a
children with epilepsy.  I got some more info now.  Here are the details:

-----Original Message-----
From: truitt [mailto:jjtruitt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:34 AM
To: 'Gina Fedon'
Subject: RE: volunteers


Gina,
Sorry for the delay in responding....I had to leave town on business.

Camp Shing is June 8-10.   Saturday night, the 9th, is when we would want
our astronomy program to occur.  Camp Shing is for children (6-17 years of
age) with epilepsy and seizure disorders.  Some of their family members
attend as well (brothers, sisters).  We are expecting a total of about 80
people.

It is at Tall Oaks Conference Center in Linwood, Kansas (where the stars
shine brightly!!)  To get there from I-70 at Lawrence East Exit, you take
K-7 South to K-32 (4 miles).  K-32 West through old Bonner Springs and 9
miles West to  Leav. County Road 26.  Turn South on 26 and go 2/3 mile South
to 189th Street.  Tall Oaks' Entrance on the Left.

Need to know what type or organization they might need.  We have volunteers
who can help do whatever.  Let me know what to expect.



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Hello all,

Just thought some of you might need a power inverter for camping or
observing sessions. Sam's wholesale club now has a 350 watt inverter that
peaks at 600 watts for $29. Should be plenty good to operate a laptop or
other electrical devices.

Gary

All three of my potential program folks have backed out for one reason or another and I currently have no program for the May general meeting. To top that off, I will be in San Francisco and out of reach for any who wish to strangle me.

Any brilliant ideas will be appreciated. (non involving violence directed towards me please)


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I found the chart of eyepiece magnifications I made up when I made the old operations manual for Powell. I just uploaded it to the askc@yahoogroups file area.



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David, well I am giving away a program that I secretly (heh-heh!!) hoped to use next year - but I am wondering if you, Tom Boerner, and others (Ron Abbott) may have taken enough slides (people pictures) and ccd images to do a neat 25-30
minute program on your Kitt Peak experience! I would personally really enjoy a program like this. It does not have to be long. What do you think?
Dave H.

David Young wrote:

> All three of my potential program folks have backed out for one reason or another and I currently have no program for the May general meeting. To top that off, I will be in San Francisco and out of reach for any who wish to strangle me.
>
> Any brilliant ideas will be appreciated. (non involving violence directed towards me please)
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Gary, wow, what a deal! Thanks for the information! Along the same lines, I
bought from Lowe's a really nice black & silver cubed foamed case for $26
(about 5"x20"x14") for my eyepieces and assorted  telescope equipment. Same
case through Orion costs about $55.    Dave

Gary Pittman wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Just thought some of you might need a power inverter for camping or
> observing sessions. Sam's wholesale club now has a 350 watt inverter that
> peaks at 600 watts for $29. Should be plenty good to operate a laptop or
> other electrical devices.
>
> Gary
>
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  I am wondering if you, Tom Boerner, and others (Ron Abbott) may have taken enough slides (people pictures) and ccd images to do a neat 25-30
  minute program on your Kitt Peak experience! I would personally really enjoy a program like this. It does not have to be long. What do you think.

  I had an absolutely great time at Kitt Peak. I think Tom did too except when I was snoring and keeping him awake during the day. I have some photos and of course the images we took with Adam. Tom has a bunch as well. I'll try to talk with Tom and Ron. Nick went with John Anderson a few years ago. I don't know if any other ASKC members have done it. As I recall Adam indicated Ron spent his time hunting down and doing visual observing on faint galaxies (he loves those faint galaxies) Nick and John went very early in the program and I think only got one or two images.

  I also participated (for free) in the program Adam gave before our time started. They give programs for $25 per person for groups of 25. They are booked for months in advance. 

  I can provide photos and describe my experience in writing but I will be in San Francisco the week of the program.  


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Jim,
Thank you for the information.

Regards
Bill

At 02:30 PM 05/07/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>They are sold at every club meeting.
>
>Keep looking up,
>
>Jim
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bvkirk@... <bvkirk@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:19 AM
>Subject: [ASKC] Powell
>
>
> >My Wife and I were at Powell Sat night for the program etc. Although
> >we have been members of the club for 2 years, this was my wifes first
> >night at powell and my 2nd. Of course we were thought to be visitors
> >and not club members. I noticed several members were wearing T-shirts
> >with club logo etc. Would someone advise where we could obtain these
> >shirts? Thanks.
> >
> >Bill
> >
> >
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Dave,
 what kind of computer would you need for the camera.
I have an old 386 with a 100 meg hard drive and I think it has about 8 meg of 
ram.  Its just collecting dust here, if it would work I would be willing to 
donate it.  


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  Dave,
  what kind of computer would you need for the camera.
  I have an old 386 with a 100 meg hard drive and I think it has about 8 meg of 
  ram.  Its just collecting dust here, if it would work I would be willing to 
  donate it.  


  Thank you for the offer. We currently have at least 2 pentiums sitting around at Powell collecting dust ;-) I've donated several computers to upgrade the older ones we started out with. If you are looking for someplace that could use an old compter, Shelly Granger is looking for computers for one of the local school's tech class.




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  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: imcyeababy@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] AP8P camera


  To make it easier on an old guy, please put your real name somewhere in your messages so I know who I'm typing too. imcyeababy@... doesn't ring a bell ;-)


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The Kitt peak slide show would be interesting along with the asteroid meeting 
stuff.
 Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) 

On 11 May 2001 19:54:58 -0000, you wrote:

>"David Young" <dyoung8@...m>

David,
If those two "dust collecting" pentiums aren't going to be used, I could 
use them.

Thanks
Carroll Iorg 

  David,
  If those two "dust collecting" pentiums aren't going to be used, I could 
  use them.


  They belong to the ASKC so you will need board approval.




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Tomorrow night, Saturday May 12 is the second public night of the year. My team has the duty and although we are not required to give a program I plan to do so. My team will be short handed due to family illness for one member and another member  is in Japan. I'm sure we can get by but I would appreciate help.


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Here is an email sent to me, that I am passing along.
Anyone interested should contact sender......

From: "John Hill" <jhill@...> 
To: <askconline@...> 
Subject: Any interest? 
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:59:09 -0500 
 
I don't know if anyone does radio telescope on an amateur level, but
I 
thought I would make at least make this offer.  I have a satellite 
dish, a large one, mounted on a sturdy pedestal.  It would need a 
little work.  If anyone would be interested in it, it is free for the 
taking.  Hopefully this is not a laughable offer, I just hate to see
a 
good satellite dish get trashed.
 
Happy Stargazing,
John

Hi all!

I've forwarded recently the details for that request of help at a children
with epilepsy camp in June.  If anyone is interested in helping please let
me know, because Mr. Truitt needs to know pretty quickly.

Larry Goode said he might be interested, but that was before I sent out the
details.  Still something you can do, Larry?

Thanks,

Gina

gina i could probly help out . i dont think i have any other commitments but
i do belive thats my mothers b- day although no one has told me what we are
doing for that. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Gina Fedon [mailto:antares@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 3:45 AM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Children with epilepsy


Hi all!

I've forwarded recently the details for that request of help at a children
with epilepsy camp in June.  If anyone is interested in helping please let
me know, because Mr. Truitt needs to know pretty quickly.

Larry Goode said he might be interested, but that was before I sent out the
details.  Still something you can do, Larry?

Thanks,

Gina






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GEOMAGNETIC STORM WARNING: Our planet entered a high speed solar wind
stream on Saturday, May 12th, which triggered a moderate geomagnetic
storm.  Sky watchers, especially those at high latitudes, should be alert
for glowing auroras tonight near local midnight.


Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

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                AAVSO ALERT NOTICE 281 (May 11, 2001)

0829+28 SUPERNOVA 2001bg IN NGC 2608 (CANCER)

We have been informed by the Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams (IAU
Circular 7621) that Guy  Hurst, Basingstoke, England, reports that Tom Boles,
Coddenham, England, discovered an apparent supernova on images taken May
8.943 UT (limiting magnitude about 18) and May 9.9 UT (poor conditions) at
CCD magnitude about 14, using a 0.36-m Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and while
participating in the U.K. Nova/Supernova Patrol.  The object was confirmed
at CCD magnitude about 14 by H. Kerner, Fassberg, Germany, who obtained an
image at the request of Hurst on May 9.884 UT with a 0.15-m reflector.

Nothing was seen at the location of the supernova down to CCD magnitude ~19
on a Patrol master image taken on January 13, 2000, or down to photographic
red and blue magnitudes ~20 on Palomar Sky Survey images from November 1989
and March 1990, respectively.

SN 2001bg is located 22" east and 19" south of the center of NGC 2608, at
the coordinates:

       R.A. = 08h 35m 18.86s   Decl. = +28 degrees 28' 05.8"  (2000)

Accompanying is an AAVSO Preliminary 'e' scale Supernova Search chart of
NGC 2608 showing the location of SN 2001bg.  Please use this chart to
observe the supernova, and report your observations of 0829+28 SN 2001BG to
AAVSO Headquarters, making sure to indicate which comparison star(s) you used.

With a little luck Joe and I may have a chance to try to pour the pad at Powell Tuesday.  Anyone else have any time?


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David what time will you be there? shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:02 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] vos


With a little luck Joe and I may have a chance to try to pour the pad at
Powell Tuesday.  Anyone else have any time?


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As info, here is the schedule for the next two Linda Hall lectures:

Both are non-astronomy type topics, but some of our members may be interested.


The first one is scheduled for Thursday, May 17, 2001, 5;30 p.m. in the Main
Reading Room, Linda Hall Library, 5109 Cherry Street on the UMKC campus.

"Thinking Small:  Miniaturized Chemical Sensors"  by Brian D. Lamp, Assistant
Professor of Chemistry, Division of Science at Truman State University,
Kirksville MO.

The description is as follows:  There is currently tremendous interest regarding
methods leading to the development of miniaturized chemical instrumentation for
use in remote sensing, implantable for use in remote sensing, implantable
devices, and a host of other applications.  Such devices require schemes that
translate a chemical concentration into a measurable entity that can operate in
challenging environments, with minimal amounts of sample.  Work at Truman is
focused on methods for fabricating such transducers by modifying electrode
surfaces in small domains, ranging from nonometers to micrometers in size.  The
flexibilty of these new interfaces, both in size and in available chemistry,
greatly enhances their utility for miniaturized sensors.

The next lecture is scheduled for September 13 and is entitled "Pollen:  More
Than Something to Sneeze at".

Carroll Iorg

  David what time will you be there? shelley


  Don't know for sure if we will even do it. Just testing the waters in case I can get away sometime tomorrow.



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David, yes I can get out there. Just tell me a time! What tools are needed that I might have around the house?
Dave H.

David Young wrote:

> With a little luck Joe and I may have a chance to try to pour the pad at Powell Tuesday.  Anyone else have any time?
>
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Some of you may already know this but I thought i'd pass it on anyway, 
since many of you have read his books.

Author Douglas Adams of "The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy" died of a 
heart attack Friday.  See the complete story at...


http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010512/ts/obit_adams.html

I need to know where we obtained TheSky software we are using at Powell. Does the ASKC own that copy. If not we need to purchase a copy. If it was given to the ASKC I need to know the registration information. I intend to purchase a site license from Software Bisque for $40. The upgrade from Level IV version 4 to version 5 is $59 and I intend to purchase that as well. As you know I have board authorization to purchase MaximDL and intend to do that as soon as possible.

We appear to be on track to get paid by NASA in the next 2 weeks. Since I have personally guaranteed payment for the camera, unless instructed otherwise, I intend to take the camera to Powell and start using it as soon as we get MaximDL. I figure I can always sell it on e-bay;-) 


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:51 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] author dies


  Some of you may already know this but I thought i'd pass it on anyway, 
  since many of you have read his books.


  Bummer.  One of my favorite series of books.



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Folks,

I highly recommend a wonderful Australian movie called The Dish now
playing at the Tivoli. It's a true story about the small team of radio
astronomers and NASA folks who operated the Parks Radio Telescope in
Australia during the first moon landing...and received the video images
of the first walk. Great characters, very funny, with everything
actually filmed right there at the real radio telescope. For those of us
who remember the first moon walk it will really bring back
memories...and for those who don't it is a funny and very exciting
movie! It's been playing for 2 weeks...dunno how long it will be here.
Anybody else seen this little jewel?   Dave H.

I just spoke to Tom Armstrong of Lawrence based Fundamental Technologies. He will be presenting a talk at our May general meeting on the Near Spacecraft mission.

He has slides and a short video from the press kit he would like to show. We need to make sure we have the capability to show the video tape.

 Scott, can we use your set up or should I try to get something set up with UMKC? I can provide a VCR with audio and video cables if needed.


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I should know by 8:00 if we can get concrete delivered tomorrow. I'll post a note here and telephone those who have responded if we are go for playing in the goo.


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I believe that Larry Robinson had a copy and since he also had the newer 
version, he gave us the old one.  So if it was registered, it probably was to 
Larry.
Tim Kristl


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David

Sounds goooudt.  I'll be at one the numbers.

Joe

A concrete truck will be at Powell at 10:00 AM today (Tuesday).

Come on down!



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>  Scott, can we use your set up or should I try to get something set 
up with UMKC? I can provide a VCR with audio and video cables if 
needed.
<snip>

Yes, I'll bring the projector.  I will be using it for the Educational 
Minute also.  You'd better bring a VCR, since there may not be one at 
UMKC.  We don't want to hunt one down like last time.

scott (drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster in memory of Douglas 
Adams)

<snip>
>  Scott, can we use your set up or should I try to get something set 
up with UMKC? I can provide a VCR with audio and video cables if 
needed.
<snip>

Yes, I'll bring the projector.  I will be using it for the Educational 
Minute also.  You'd better bring a VCR, since there may not be one at 
UMKC.  We don't want to hunt one down like last time.

scott (drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster in memory of Douglas 
Adams)