Just returned home - turned to Discovery Channel and they are talking about 
professional and amateur asteroid hunters. 6:22 pm 1/1/2002

Bill All - N3KKM
Near Space Balloon Group
http://www.kcnet.com/~n3kkm/nearspace.html

The mad, obsessed photographers have posted new photos of the Occultation of
Saturn December 28, 2001.  We linked it off the front page, but you can also
hit the page directly here:
http://www.icstars.com/events/Occultations/SaturnOccult.html

You will notice that in the photo on the lower left, the image is nowhere as
clear as the one to the right.  A momentary flash of near-perfect seeing was
effective for a clear shot.  We blew two rolls of film for this one shot.
But as I keep telling people.... film is cheap, compared to the equipment,
the opportunity and the coffee required to heat your hands up after you
stood outside in the cold for 2 hours getting the equipment set-up.  Burn it
if ya' got it!
---------------

We've also been adding some images that we're now having time to correct
from the Leonids in Australia.  We have a lot of film to process
electronically but the first batch of single-shots is here:
http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/Australia.html

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies

Joe - FYI - we already have canned slide programs for each season of the
year, if those would help.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...] 
Sent:	Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:30 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Programs

Our team is kicking around the idea of What's Up.  Doing the programs
specific for that evening of viewing.  Albeit that these will not
necessarily be canned items.  We think they will be general enough to
hold one's interest and give them an idea of what they will be seeing.
This way we could have information for each object at hand and even give
them a list of possible objects (with a description) that they may see
and a star chart for the evening.

Joe

To up date the team list here is our team:

Shelley Granger
Rita Wright
Mike Cofer
Tim Kristle
Dave Dembinski






 

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  Joe - FYI - we already have canned slide programs for each season of the
  year, if those would help.


  I've used those canned programs at least a dozen times. They are lifesavers for those private programs that pop up at the last minute. 


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I've had dozens of calls over the last month and especially the last few days asking about programs at Powell. There seems to be a lot of interest about Jupiter of course but there have been a lot of other calls as well. 

What do you think about scheduling and advertising a mid winter program? February 16 looks appropriate. A few days after new moon to provide a nice crescent. Jupiter and Saturn will be a little high for the shorter folk but the 16" would be available for them. 

Wadda ya think?


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Dvaid, A special progam on Jupiter and Saturn? Sure. I'd be happy to help out too.  Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:55 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] programs?


  I've had dozens of calls over the last month and especially the last few days asking about programs at Powell. There seems to be a lot of interest about Jupiter of course but there have been a lot of other calls as well. 

  What do you think about scheduling and advertising a mid winter program? February 16 looks appropriate. A few days after new moon to provide a nice crescent. Jupiter and Saturn will be a little high for the shorter folk but the 16" would be available for them. 

  Wadda ya think?


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I got a call from George Allen today about a virus that he got on his
computer.  He said it is an attachment called "standing.bat".  He said he
got e-mail from a friend stating that he got the same thing,but it was
e-mailed from George.  He told me to be aware that I might also recieve it
as well as anyone else on his e-mail address book, which he has many on ASKC
.

I checked Norton's Anti-Virus website and could not find any information on
"standing.bat".  I did find a hoax called "A Flower For You", that did match
part of the information that was in the message.  George asked me warn
everyone, so I am, but I don't think there is a virus.

Does anyone information to the contrary?

Tom

Since we are in need of money, I think this is a great idea.  You can count me in.  Sharon Goode  
  
----- Original Message -----
From: David Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:00 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] programs?
  
I've had dozens of calls over the last month and especially the last few days asking about programs at Powell. There seems to be a lot of interest about Jupiter of course but there have been a lot of other calls as well.

What do you think about scheduling and advertising a mid winter program? February 16 looks appropriate. A few days after new moon to provide a nice crescent. Jupiter and Saturn will be a little high for the shorter folk but the 16" would be available for them.

Wadda ya think?


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Great shots Vic & Jen.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 5:25 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Saturn Occultation 12/28/01


The mad, obsessed photographers have posted new photos of the Occultation of
Saturn December 28, 2001.  We linked it off the front page, but you can also
hit the page directly here:
http://www.icstars.com/events/Occultations/SaturnOccult.html

You will notice that in the photo on the lower left, the image is nowhere as
clear as the one to the right.  A momentary flash of near-perfect seeing was
effective for a clear shot.  We blew two rolls of film for this one shot.
But as I keep telling people.... film is cheap, compared to the equipment,
the opportunity and the coffee required to heat your hands up after you
stood outside in the cold for 2 hours getting the equipment set-up.  Burn it
if ya' got it!
---------------

We've also been adding some images that we're now having time to correct
from the Leonids in Australia.  We have a lot of film to process
electronically but the first batch of single-shots is here:
http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/Australia.html

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
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I don't have any information on this and I haven't received any e-mail from
George in about a month.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:31 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Possible virus


I got a call from George Allen today about a virus that he got on his
computer.  He said it is an attachment called "standing.bat".  He said he
got e-mail from a friend stating that he got the same thing,but it was
e-mailed from George.  He told me to be aware that I might also recieve it
as well as anyone else on his e-mail address book, which he has many on ASKC
.

I checked Norton's Anti-Virus website and could not find any information on
"standing.bat".  I did find a hoax called "A Flower For You", that did match
part of the information that was in the message.  George asked me warn
everyone, so I am, but I don't think there is a virus.

Does anyone information to the contrary?

Tom







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Has anyone heard anything more about the Post Office Box?


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Just a gentle reminder if you have a proposed design for the club membership pin, that design needs to be submitted to Ron Abbott by the Jan. 26 General Meeting. Three finalists will be selected at the February Board Meeting, and these will be published in the March Cosmic Messenger...then voted on at the March GM.  

Also, since some members are not on this BB, maybe you could remind anybody else who is interested in submitting a design of this schedule? 

I wish everyone a wonderful New Year, and look forward to all our club activities that are now being planned such as the Polar Bear Starparty and the Annual ASKC Campout Starparty!

Dave H.


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Does anybody have any idea when the ASKC star party will be held this year?  Will it be at Schwartz Prairie again?  Hopefully it won't rain and we can get that beautiful spot in the middle of the prairie.

Or will we be holding it at the dark sky site WSW of Freeman, since we did pay $500 for its use?

Also, just to let everyone know that I've received 4 suggested names for the VOS.  The Board will be voting on an official name at the January Board Meeting next Thursday night.  It's not too late if you want to suggest a name......... let me know.

-Scott


<snip>
>>>and look forward to all our club activities that are now being planned such as the Polar Bear Starparty
>>>and the Annual ASKC Campout Starparty!

Does the club have more of the Badder solar film available?

Does Diane Sharp always have a supply in the ASKC sale box at General Meetings?  Or should I just go ahead and order it from the supplier?  ......hmmmmm.... Who is the supplier?  Tom, where did you order the film from?

I need to get a 10" diameter circle piece.

Thanks!!!!

-Scott

Scott:  The Baader Astrosolar Filter is sold by the ASKC's marketing person,
Diane Sharp.  She currently has the following sizes:

4"x4" - $4.00
4.5"x5" - $6.00
5"x5" - $7.00
7.875"x7.875" - $18.00
9.875"x9.875" - $26.00

Plus instructions on making a cell for your telescope.

She also has some slightly larger sizes, but when those are gone, if you
want anything larger it will be a special order.

I order more filter material when she runs low on the supply.  I purchase it
from Adirondack Video Astronomy.  I get a large sheet 19.7"x39.4" for $69.00
plus $4.50 shipping.  You can also buy a piece 7.9" x 11.4" for $29.00 plus
$4.50 shipping from them.  When we first started making this available to
the ASKC, we sold it at cost.  We have now increased the cost to make some
money for the club.

You can call Diane to see what larger sizes she has available.

For those who are reading this and are curious about this great stuff, read
the Sky&Tel test report:
http://www.skypub.com/resources/testreports/accessories/0009baader.html

Tom

OK Thanks!!

I didn't know if Diane kept a supply on hand or if it was a one-time deal only and when it was gone,
it was gone.

Thanks!

-Scott

Tom Martinez wrote:
> 
> Scott:  The Baader Astrosolar Filter is sold by the ASKC's marketing person,
> Diane Sharp.  She currently has the following sizes:
> 
> 4"x4" - $4.00
> 4.5"x5" - $6.00
> 5"x5" - $7.00
> 7.875"x7.875" - $18.00
> 9.875"x9.875" - $26.00
> 
> Plus instructions on making a cell for your telescope.
> 
> She also has some slightly larger sizes, but when those are gone, if you
> want anything larger it will be a special order.
> 
> I order more filter material when she runs low on the supply.  I purchase it
> from Adirondack Video Astronomy.  I get a large sheet 19.7"x39.4" for $69.00
> plus $4.50 shipping.  You can also buy a piece 7.9" x 11.4" for $29.00 plus
> $4.50 shipping from them.  When we first started making this available to
> the ASKC, we sold it at cost.  We have now increased the cost to make some
> money for the club.
> 
> You can call Diane to see what larger sizes she has available.
> 
> For those who are reading this and are curious about this great stuff, read
> the Sky&Tel test report:
> http://www.skypub.com/resources/testreports/accessories/0009baader.html
> 
> Tom
> 
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Scott , Diane always has it at the meeting but if you need some sooner I
would give her a call. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:52 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Badder Solar film


Does the club have more of the Badder solar film available?

Does Diane Sharp always have a supply in the ASKC sale box at General
Meetings?  Or should I just go ahead and order it from the supplier?
......hmmmmm.... Who is the supplier?  Tom, where did you order the film
from?

I need to get a 10" diameter circle piece.

Thanks!!!!

-Scott







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Hey folks, I got the message below from Dr. Pilgram in St. Joseph.  Can
anyone help him?  His address is:
pligraml@...


Hi Tom,
     Doc Pilgram here with a question for you and
anyone else in the ASKC who wants to weigh in on the
issue.   A guy here in town bought a Meade 8 incher
with a computer guidance gizmo that just doesn't work
right.   He has sent it back to them twice already and
they have replaced everything on the scope; slewing
motors, yada yada....everything except what's wrong.
In my estimation, what's wrong is the library chip in
the computer.
     First off, has anyone in the ASKC had a similar
problem with a Meade?   Secondly, do you have any
advice on how to deal with the company.....or is there
anyone in our club that you know who is a mad dog with
customer service?  Hope to hear from you soon, and
Happy New Year.

Since most ASKC members don't read these egroup messages I would guess that most members don't know anything about the pin and therefore wouldn't know if they were interested in submitting a design.

>Message: 2
>   Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:18:48 -0600
>   From: "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
>Subject: Club Pin Designs due by January General meeting
>
>Just a gentle reminder if you have a proposed design for the
>club membership pin, that design needs to be submitted to Ron
>Abbott by the Jan. 26 General Meeting. Three finalists will be
>selected at the February Board Meeting, and these will be
>published in the March Cosmic Messenger...then voted on at the
>March GM.  
>
>Also, since some members are not on this BB, maybe you could
>remind anybody else who is interested in submitting a design of
>this schedule? 
>
>I wish everyone a wonderful New Year, and look forward to all
>our club activities that are now being planned such as the
>Polar Bear Starparty and the Annual ASKC Campout Starparty!
>
>Dave H.
>
>
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>
>

Since most ASKC members don't read these egroup messages I would guess that most members don't know anything about the pin and therefore wouldn't know if they were interested in submitting a design.

The pins were discussed at the board meeting but I don't recall if anyone put something in the Cosmic Messenger. The January 26 deadline might be a month too soon if we are to have input from all interested members.


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I agree, David, that there has not been enough time given to the general
membership to participate in this contest.  Even if it's in the January
Cosmic Messenger, (have we got that yet?) it wouldn't give anyone enough
time to develop an idea by Jan. 26th.  Besides - what is the hurry?  We've
done without pins for 50 years or more...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Preston [mailto:dpreston@...] 
Sent:	Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Digest Number 457

Since most ASKC members don't read these egroup messages I would guess that
most members don't know anything about the pin and therefore wouldn't know
if they were interested in submitting a design.

>Message: 2
>   Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:18:48 -0600
>   From: "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
>Subject: Club Pin Designs due by January General meeting
>
>Just a gentle reminder if you have a proposed design for the
>club membership pin, that design needs to be submitted to Ron
>Abbott by the Jan. 26 General Meeting. Three finalists will be
>selected at the February Board Meeting, and these will be
>published in the March Cosmic Messenger...then voted on at the
>March GM.  
>
>Also, since some members are not on this BB, maybe you could
>remind anybody else who is interested in submitting a design of
>this schedule? 
>
>I wish everyone a wonderful New Year, and look forward to all
>our club activities that are now being planned such as the
>Polar Bear Starparty and the Annual ASKC Campout Starparty!
>
>Dave H.
>
>
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>
>







 

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I have a group booked for Saturday, January 12. We do not have a schedule of keyholders set up yet. 

I need volunteers to staff this paying school group.


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Of course, the opinions expressed here in the e-group are not necessarily those of the management ;-)


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David - Count me as a volunteer to do the program.  I can operate the
telescope, etc,. but would prefer having someone else there to do that....
Just let me know all the details....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Friday, January 04, 2002 10:31 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] private group

I have a group booked for Saturday, January 12. We do not have a schedule of
keyholders set up yet. 

I need volunteers to staff this paying school group.


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Hi Folks!   (Regarding the deadline for the club pin design)

Yes, not only has the pin design deadline been discussed at length at the last Board Meeting and several times on this BB, the upcoming January issue of CM (probably now in the mail) has a big article about it. So everyone has been properly advised about our plan.

The upcoming CM again outlines the schedule -  the Board will select 3 or 4 "finalists" from the submitted designs at the Feb 14 Board meeting, and then we will have a final vote at the February 23 General meeting. And yes...that means whoever does _not_ come to the February meeting does _not_ get to vote. Life is sometimes cruel. I expect that most active members will be at our meeting, and that's who should select the design. That's part of the fun of coming to our meetings! : ^).

If we can make a final selection at the February meeting, we can get them produced and ready for members at the April meeting.  Remember - "Plan your work, and work your plan!" 

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Digest Number 457


  Since most ASKC members don't read these egroup messages I would guess that most members don't know anything about the pin and therefore wouldn't know if they were interested in submitting a design.

  The pins were discussed at the board meeting but I don't recall if anyone put something in the Cosmic Messenger. The January 26 deadline might be a month too soon if we are to have input from all interested members.


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--- In ASKC@y..., "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@k...> wrote:
> Hi Folks!   (Regarding the deadline for the club pin design)
> 
> Yes, not only has the pin design deadline been discussed at length 
at the last Board Meeting and several times on this BB, the upcoming 
January issue of CM (probably now in the mail) has a big article 
about it. So everyone has been properly advised about our plan.

I beg to differ.
If you don't attend board meetings; if you don't belong to this 
maillist; and if you don't get your CM until a few days before the 
meeting (like I have the past 2-3 months), then you have not been 
properly advised.
I agree with Jackie - what is the big hurry?
Traditionally the January meeting has usually the biggest attendance 
of any meeting throughout the year. 
So why not "properly advise" everyone then, who doesn't know, and 
then make the deadline the February Board meeting. That would give 
someone NOT finding out about it until the 26th to have a least a 
week or two to put something together if they wish. They could then 
bring it to the board meeting for the selection process.

my 2 cents worth........

Rob

Just wondering why there was never a 2002 club membership directory 
published? Or maybe I was left off, or overlooked on the mailing 
list? I still looking here at 2001, with no update addendums as to 
new members.
Are we trash canning the idea of a club directory? Wasn't money 
budgeted for it back in July?
If money is the issue, maybe an online directory, accessible by a 
username and password? We can do that.


Rob

I think the new club directories are at least in the works.  Probably about
ready by now, I should think.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...] 
Sent:	Friday, January 04, 2002 2:25 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] 2002 Directory

Just wondering why there was never a 2002 club membership directory 
published? Or maybe I was left off, or overlooked on the mailing 
list? I still looking here at 2001, with no update addendums as to 
new members.
Are we trash canning the idea of a club directory? Wasn't money 
budgeted for it back in July?
If money is the issue, maybe an online directory, accessible by a 
username and password? We can do that.


Rob





 

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I have spoken with Nancy R. about production questions for the directory.  I
understand that she was needing to learn the process of generating the
artwork from the database to the printer from scratch and was testing
different ways to create it within different software programs she has.
That was in either the October or November GM... so I know that she has been
certainly planning on producing the directory... and should be given some
grace for the learning curve taking over the task.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


----------
From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] 2002 Directory
Date: Fri, Jan 4, 2002, 10:24 PM


Just wondering why there was never a 2002 club membership directory
published? Or maybe I was left off, or overlooked on the mailing
list? I still looking here at 2001, with no update addendums as to
new members.
Are we trash canning the idea of a club directory? Wasn't money
budgeted for it back in July?
If money is the issue, maybe an online directory, accessible by a
username and password? We can do that.


Rob







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Hi everyone, Amy's secretary here :) She is still having trouble posting to
the group and her best friend hasn't been much help lately. So now I'm stuck
sending out her email again.
Anyway Amy will not be at the January meeting. She will be in sunny
California. She needs people to bring treats this month. I will not be able
to do much because I have to work Sat all day and will be coming from work
to the meeting and I have a sweet 16 birthday party to plan for Joshua and
Jessica that week. Any volunteers to bring the drinks would be appreciated.
Also she hasn't had much response regarding the Feb Sweetheart banquet.
Everyone quit eating in this club???? Yeah right!!!. So let her know if your
planning on attending. I think she has an article in the CM this month.
Thanks for your time. Happy New Year!! Shelley

I went out 4-5 Wed morning to check out the Quadrantids. Never have seen this 
shower. 
Only saw 6 meteors. 2 sporadics and 4 quads
4:00  blue mag 1   quad
4:14  white mag -1 sp
4:30 red yellow    mag 2   sp  15 degrees 2.5-3 seconds .5 train
4:44 white 0 mag quad
4:46 white 2 quad

I did not mind seeing that few. Each was real nice with different colors etc.
The red yellow sped along real slowly and started red orange then changed to 
yellow leaving a short trail. Memorable eventhough only mag 2 . Started out  
from North of quad radiant. Possibly from another shower?

I enjoyed it. I'd rather see some nice ones that a ton of boring ones. Still 
it was not the leonids (which I missed due to clouds).

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

I thought i already forwared this but maybe i slipped up :)  details on
banquet at bottom....shelley
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Hahn [mailto:amyhahn@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:00 AM
To: Shelley Granger
Subject: FW: back online & Feb Banq


Shelley, I've sent this to the ASKC moderator at yahoogroups.com.  You are
my backup!  I can't seem to get this to post.  I've doublechecked the
address I have for "askc egroups"... it is ASKC@yahoogroups.com.  But it
just isn't getting it there.  If Gina doesn't get it forwarded to the groups
for me by Wednesday, the 19th, will you?  Or, you can do it sooner, if you
prefer.  I'm too tired to mess with it anymore.  I can't even reply to an
egroups message... it says it "sent" but I'm not getting it back when I
check for "new" messages.  Do you think I need to be re-logged onto the
group?  Would Gina have exiled me when she heard I was infected?  If so,
hopefully she realize that I am up and running again, with the one I sent
her.

Talk to you later!

amy
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Amy Hahn
  To: askc egroups
  Sent: 12/18/01 12:59:46 AM
  Subject: back online & Feb Banq



  Hi all!  Thanks to Doc K. Granger, I am in posession of an operating pc.
Stupid, stupid virus!   (stupid, stupid me; aka...
the-nonthinking-careless-opener-of-attachments!)

  Many thanks to all of you who responded to my secretary's notices about
banquet prices and Orion binoculars.  [I am really leaning towards the 12
(or 15) x 63 Mini-Giants; unless someone knows of a reason why I
shouldn't...]  I'm not in a huge rush, so I would appreciate any further
input you may have for me.

  Now, on to the second order of business.  After much dilly-dallying on my
part I have finally confirmed a date and location for our banquet in
February.  After cogitation (and since I have a recalcitrant, anti-social
sweetheart of my own) I agree that the terminology "sweetheart banquet" may
unintentionally limit attendance at this event.  So, for the duration of
time during which I am IN control, I have decided to rename it.  Henceforth
(and until it is renamed by my successor) it shall be known as the S*T*D*I*F
banquet.  [The attendee who comes closest to guessing the words for this
acronym shall be awarded a magnificent door prize of nominal value.]

                                                         DETAILS:

  On Saturday, February 9th, 2002 (at 7:00 pm) let all interested partie(r)s
gather at THE CEDARS BREWERY at 1663 NE Douglas Road, in Lee's Summit, Mo.
Dinner is scheduled to commence @ 7:30p.

  [Quick directions from 470 E:  take the 291 S exit, turn L at the light at
the S corner of Texaco, and turn L into the strip mall behind (E) of Texaco.
The Cedars is at the N end of the lot.]

  For $18 per person, you can enjoy a non-alc bev of choice, brewer's bread
w/ honey butter, choice of House or Caesar Salad, and choice of three
entrees.  They are:

  1.  Roasted Hickory Chicken ~  Farm-raised Half Chicken, lightly roasted
and served with Roasted Garlic Mashed Potatoes and vegetable of the day.
  2.  Creole Catfish and Chips ~ a basket of Cornmeal-dusted Whole Catfish
Filets with spicy Creole Tartar Sauce, seasoned Natural-cut French Fries, a
side of Cider Slaw, and a bottle of Tabasco.
  3.  Smoked Baby Back Ribs ~ a Half Slab of slow-smoked pork Baby Back Ribs
with a Molasses Barbecue Sauce, natural-cut French Fries, black beans and a
side of Cider Slaw.

  IN ADDITION... I will be providing an appetizer, and the dessert.

  ALSO !!!  I signed us up for a free tour of their micro-brewery (onsite)
at 7pm.  It lasts 20 minutes, and will have everyone at his/her seat in time
for dinner at 7:30 pm.

  Of course their bar will be open to us, on a pay-as-you-go basis.  A large
mug of their brew will run about $3.25, mixed drinks are from $3.50 to $7 --
depending on what you name.  They offer wines, as well.

  I would like to have all reservations by the 1st of Feb.  [Fellow
card-carrying procrastinators have until the 4th or 5th to get reservations
(and monies) in to me.]  Shelley Granger will have a sign-up sheet at the
January Gen Mtg, and will accept checks (made out to ASKC, for the
appropriate amount).  If one of us is available to attend the Jan Board Mtg,
there will be a sign-up sheet there, too.  In addition, you can email me
(amyhahn@...)  [aside... why do I ALWAYS type a "g" in place of
that "k"?]; you can call me at (h) 816-779-5801 or (cell) 816-309-6335 and
leave a message.  Reservations (and checks) can also be sent to me by
snailmail, @ 13904 E Saturn Dr., Peculiar, Mo, 64078-9512.

  IF you already know what entree you are going to want, please let me know
on your message.  The more specific a count I can give them, the speedier
our service will be!

  I am sending this info to Fiske, for inclusion in the next Cos Mess (if
timing doesn't contraindicate it.)

  I really hope I answered all potential questions... if not, just let me
know!

  I also really hope to see lots of people sign up!  Their banquet room can
hold up to 55 people!  Last year we had 24 attendees; let's belly up and
show the world what the gAstronomical Society of KC is really about!

  ;)

  Amy H.










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While monitoring the weather for Saturday morning's graze (which will 
most likely be clouded out), I ran across this site, which has an 
astronomy section, with a nice planetarium sky view. All objects are 
clickable, with a pop up giving data on the object.
Take a look at:

http://www.weatherunderground.com/sky/index.asp

Rob

Cool site walt. Thanks.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:58 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Nice Planetarium Program


While monitoring the weather for Saturday morning's graze (which will 
most likely be clouded out), I ran across this site, which has an 
astronomy section, with a nice planetarium sky view. All objects are 
clickable, with a pop up giving data on the object.
Take a look at:

http://www.weatherunderground.com/sky/index.asp

Rob





 

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--- In ASKC@y..., "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@e...> wrote:
>  Besides - what is the hurry?  We've
> done without pins for 50 years or more...

My thoughts exactly. Thank you. Since this is something that the 
club has never done before and presumably will not do again for 
a long time, let's not rush it.

David Preston

Would someone please send some information about the club, maybe a brochure to the following:


Steve Fauth
17244 Montgall
Belton, MO 64017


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David, sure I'll mail him a brochure with a note! : ^ )

Dave H. 
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 10:34 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] info


  Would someone please send some information about the club, maybe a brochure to the following:


  Steve Fauth
  17244 Montgall
  Belton, MO 64017


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Anyone have a current email address for Michael Bakich?
Need to contact him about some "old book history", and the email 
address I have is no good - bounces
Please email this to me direct, so I get the whole email address.
I view the maillist via browser, and it clips addresses to prevent 
spam culling.....
Thanks in advance!

Rob

Check with Bob Haler.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Email Address


> Anyone have a current email address for Michael Bakich?
> Need to contact him about some "old book history", and the email
> address I have is no good - bounces
> Please email this to me direct, so I get the whole email address.
> I view the maillist via browser, and it clips addresses to prevent
> spam culling.....
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rob
>
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I'm looking for any comet photos in digital form. I'm putting together a test program for the projector with power point. I know it will be kind of amatuerish until I get some talented help, but I want to get started on the learning curve.

In particular I'd like to use some member's photos. I have a nice scanner that I can use to digitize paper prints if you would be willing to share them. I would also like to make some of the images available for sale at presentations with 100% of the profits from the sales going to the ASKC. (With full credit to the author)

Also, I'd like to get an image of the club logo slide, the US at night (I think I can get that off of the web) and a digital version of the slide we have of a comet path intersecting the path of the earth to produce meteor showers.


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David , there is every conceivable kind of astro photo available from the Astronomy Photo of the Day website at 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

There must be thousands of images!  See the Archive or Index for category. I use these all the time for class. I see no reason we cannot use these for educational programs.

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:27 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] photos


  I'm looking for any comet photos in digital form. I'm putting together a test program for the projector with power point. I know it will be kind of amatuerish until I get some talented help, but I want to get started on the learning curve.

  In particular I'd like to use some member's photos. I have a nice scanner that I can use to digitize paper prints if you would be willing to share them. I would also like to make some of the images available for sale at presentations with 100% of the profits from the sales going to the ASKC. (With full credit to the author)

  Also, I'd like to get an image of the club logo slide, the US at night (I think I can get that off of the web) and a digital version of the slide we have of a comet path intersecting the path of the earth to produce meteor showers.


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David, I am sending directly to you (since we cannot attach anything thru yahoo) a bunch of images I did on the 30". 
Dave H.



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:27 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] photos


  I'm looking for any comet photos in digital form. I'm putting together a test program for the projector with power point. I know it will be kind of amatuerish until I get some talented help, but I want to get started on the learning curve.

  In particular I'd like to use some member's photos. I have a nice scanner that I can use to digitize paper prints if you would be willing to share them. I would also like to make some of the images available for sale at presentations with 100% of the profits from the sales going to the ASKC. (With full credit to the author)

  Also, I'd like to get an image of the club logo slide, the US at night (I think I can get that off of the web) and a digital version of the slide we have of a comet path intersecting the path of the earth to produce meteor showers.


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  From: Dave Hudgins 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] photos


  David , there is every conceivable kind of astro photo available from the Astronomy Photo of the Day website at 

  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

  There must be thousands of images!  See the Archive or Index for category. I use these all the time for class. I see no reason we cannot use these for educational programs.

  Thanks David, I'm logged onto that site at the moment but I haven't found the USA at night. I found the entire earth at night but it gets pretty boxy when I crop and enlarge to show just the USA. I'll keep cruising the site. I have lots of comet pics but I would like to have some of the member's shots of Hyukatake and Hale-Bopp. There were a bunch of very nice ones and we sold a bunch of the them. I see no reason not to sell more if they agree!


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I found the "new" USA at night but no luck with the old one. I'd like to have both images to show the change over the years. Anyone have the "old" USA at night?


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If any of you are looking for anyone, remember who has access to the 20,000
member roster of the League...  :-)

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ketchum [mailto:suenjim@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Email Address


Check with Bob Haler.

Jim
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From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Email Address


> Anyone have a current email address for Michael Bakich?
> Need to contact him about some "old book history", and the email
> address I have is no good - bounces
> Please email this to me direct, so I get the whole email address.
> I view the maillist via browser, and it clips addresses to prevent
> spam culling.....
> Thanks in advance!
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Try the International Dark Sky web site for the USA at night pictures....
jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:51 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] photos


  From: Dave Hudgins
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] photos


  David , there is every conceivable kind of astro photo available from the
Astronomy Photo of the Day website at

  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

  There must be thousands of images!  See the Archive or Index for category.
I use these all the time for class. I see no reason we cannot use these for
educational programs.

  Thanks David, I'm logged onto that site at the moment but I haven't found
the USA at night. I found the entire earth at night but it gets pretty boxy
when I crop and enlarge to show just the USA. I'll keep cruising the site. I
have lots of comet pics but I would like to have some of the member's shots
of Hyukatake and Hale-Bopp. There were a bunch of very nice ones and we sold
a bunch of the them. I see no reason not to sell more if they agree!


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David Young:  I can send you images of my comet pics.  What pixel size do
you need (640x480, 800x600, 1024x764)?  I'm assuming all you need is 72 dpi
images.

I can scan the club logo slide on my slide scanner.  Who has the slide?

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: [ASKC] photos


> I'm looking for any comet photos in digital form. >

> Also, I'd like to get an image of the club logo slide, and a digital
version of the slide we have of a comet path intersecting the path of the
earth to produce meteor showers.

  Try the International Dark Sky web site for the USA at night pictures....
  jackie

  Thanks Jackie. I already found them on the NASA site.


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  David Young:  I can send you images of my comet pics.  What pixel size do
  you need (640x480, 800x600, 1024x764)?  I'm assuming all you need is 72 dpi
  images.

  I can scan the club logo slide on my slide scanner.  Who has the slide?

  Tom

  Cool! The projector will only display 640 X 480 so that will be all that is needed.

  Jackie should have the logo slide. I'd also like to have the one of the comet orbit crossing the earth's orbit if you can get that one too.

  Yoooo Hooooo ..... Jackie, can you bring those slides to the board meeting or to the GM so Tom can scan them for me?


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--- In ASKC@y..., "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@k...> wrote:
> There must be thousands of images!  See the Archive or Index for 
>category. I use these all the time for class. I see no reason we 
>cannot use these for educational programs.

All the images on the APOD page are credited to the owner or 
institution where they originated. Some of the images are copyrighted 
and to use these pictures publicly or commercially one must write to 
the owners for permission. For the copyrighted images, the copyright 
owner is identified in the APOD credit line (please see the caption
under the image), along with a hyperlink to the owner's location. 
NASA images are in the public domain, official guidelines for their 
use can be found here. For images credited to other 
owners/institutions, please contact them directly for copyright and 
permissions questions. 

Neither NASA nor APOD can grant permission to use copyrighted images. 
For use of these images, please write to the copyright owners. 

All the images on the APOD page are credited to the owner or 
institution where they originated. Some of the images are copyrighted 
and to use these pictures publicly or commercially one must write to 
the owners for permission. For the copyrighted images, the copyright 
owner is identified in the APOD credit line (please see the caption
under the image), along with a hyperlink to the owner's location. 
NASA images are in the public domain, official guidelines for their 
use can be found here. For images credited to other 
owners/institutions, please contact them directly for copyright and 
permissions questions. 

I did not grab any copyrighted pics. I did get several that did not have copyright notices on them but I think they were all NASA images. I'll double check before I include them in a public program at Powell. 


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David -- Yes, I have the two slides, and yes, I will bring them to the Board
meeting on Thursday night.

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:01 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] photos




  David Young:  I can send you images of my comet pics.  What pixel size do
  you need (640x480, 800x600, 1024x764)?  I'm assuming all you need is 72
dpi
  images.

  I can scan the club logo slide on my slide scanner.  Who has the slide?

  Tom

  Cool! The projector will only display 640 X 480 so that will be all that
is needed.

  Jackie should have the logo slide. I'd also like to have the one of the
comet orbit crossing the earth's orbit if you can get that one too.

  Yoooo Hooooo ..... Jackie, can you bring those slides to the board meeting
or to the GM so Tom can scan them for me?


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Folks, (regarding copyrighted images) 

I kicked out the message below without being as clear as I should have. I think we should look at the APOD site for images...but use only the ones from NASA and so on that just require acknowledgement. There are tons and tons of these. : ^ ) I didn't mean to imply using  copyrighted images by individuals,  photographers, or anybody else who might truly be affronted. Just common sense right?
 Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dave Hudgins 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] photos


David, there is every conceivable kind of astro photo available from the Astronomy Photo of the Day website at 

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/

There must be thousands of images!  See the Archive or Index for category. I use these all the time for class. I see no reason we cannot use these for educational programs.

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:27 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] photos


  I'm looking for any comet photos in digital form. I'm putting together a test program for the projector with power point. I know it will be kind of amatuerish until I get some talented help, but I want to get started on the learning curve.

  In particular I'd like to use some member's photos. I have a nice scanner that I can use to digitize paper prints if you would be willing to share them. I would also like to make some of the images available for sale at presentations with 100% of the profits from the sales going to the ASKC. (With full credit to the author)

  Also, I'd like to get an image of the club logo slide, the US at night (I think I can get that off of the web) and a digital version of the slide we have of a comet path intersecting the path of the earth to produce meteor showers.


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There is an interesting little shareware program called "Universe" at
http://www.diardsoftware.com/
You can create your own starfields, clusters, etc. in jpeg or bmp format.
This might be useful for those who want a generic open cluster, for example,
for a power point program.
Even in the partially functional non-pay version its a lot of fun to play
with.
You can make some pretty neat looking stuff. Black holes with jets, etc.
Galaxy clusters, etc.
Kathy

Amy,

I would never "exile" you!  I checked your account and found nothing wrong.
I deleted your account and created a new one again, for the second time
(Have you tested it this weekend?).  The only thing I can think is that you
may have a problem with your yahoo ID, but I can't do anything about that or
even check on it.  The new account I created has only your earthlink
address.  Let's give it a try. I wish I could help more, but I really can't
find anything wrong on the group site and it's as frustrating to me as it is
to you.

Let me know if it works.

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangerk@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:02 PM
  To: Askc
  Subject: [ASKC] FW: back online & Feb Banq


  group?  Would Gina have exiled me when she heard I was infected?  If so,
  hopefully she realize that I am up and running again, with the one I sent
  her.

  Talk to you later!

  amy



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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Of course, the opinions expressed here in the e-group are not 
necessarily those of the management ;-)
> 
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Nor those of the majority of ASKC members. The opinions expressed 
here are generally those of the 12-18 people who actively participate 
in this forum. ;-)

Fiske

PS: The January Cosmic Messenger will actually be mailed on 
Wednesday, January 9. Allowing an average of one week for bulk mail 
distribution, most ASKC members should receive it by January 16.

That's the bad news. The good news is that the CM deadline has now 
been set to the board meeting, which means that it will be delivered 
to the printer around the middle of each month and mailed a week 
prior to the end of the month. So, the February CM should be arriving 
around the beginning of February.

Happy to submit my comet photos of Linear a2 (beautiful tail).

Dr.Eric Flescher

My presentation about our telescope use will be ready for the meeting on the 26th for me to present. It will a brief 10 minute synopsis of the whole project on powerpoint. I need a project  for my computer. Please let me know whether this is not possible.

Also my presentation on poweroint "Astronomical and Religious Engima: The 10 myths of the star of Bethelehem" can be presented at the observatory in the future.
The crowd in Kansas City (40 people ) that I presented to loved it. 
Dr.Eric Flescher

My presentation about our telescope use will be ready for the meeting on the 26th for me to present. It will a brief 10 minute synopsis of the whole project on powerpoint. I need a project  for my computer. Please let me know whether this is not possible.

Also my presentation on poweroint "Astronomical and Religious Engima: The 10 myths of the star of Bethelehem" can be presented at the observatory in the future.
The crowd in Kansas City (40 people ) that I presented to loved it. 
Dr.Eric Flescher

Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a 
really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it 
displayed on there website.

Tom

Terrific, Tom!   And, right on the front page, too.  How awesome.  

I, of course, didn't see it at all.  Sigh.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...] 
Sent:	Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Sun Pillar

Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a 
really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it 
displayed on there website.

Tom





 

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Very Impressive. Don't remember ever seeing this particular phenomenon.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


> Terrific, Tom!   And, right on the front page, too.  How awesome.
>
> I, of course, didn't see it at all.  Sigh.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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> Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a
> really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it
> displayed on there website.
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> Tom
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Great shot, Tom!

    I guess Eagle-eye Glo caught another one for you....   If Jim K. hasn't
seen it before, it MUST be pretty rare!

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
Date: Mon, Jan 7, 2002, 8:58 PM


Very Impressive. Don't remember ever seeing this particular phenomenon.

Jim
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


> Terrific, Tom!   And, right on the front page, too.  How awesome.
>
> I, of course, didn't see it at all.  Sigh.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
>
> Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a
> really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it
> displayed on there website.
>
> Tom
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I saw something like this late Saturday afternoon in western Ohio,
driving due west on my way back from Pennsylvania.  The sun was not
quite set, and it extended up a couple of degrees from the sun,
complementing the wide orange bands to the right and left of the sun,
but nothing impressive like in Tom's photo.  Once the sun actually got
to the horizon it was gone.

Dennis

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From: tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:46 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a
really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it
displayed on there website.

Tom







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Ok I uploaded 2 pics of it to the files area. Of course Im very new at this
digital camera stuff but Kevin came and helped so we managed to get about 12
good images of it. Yors was very nice Tom. What kind of setting did you use?
Shelley

Let me get this straight...   I got to see a "celestial object" before Jim?
Yeeeeeee   Hawwwwwww!

rett


From: "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


> Very Impressive. Don't remember ever seeing this particular phenomenon.
>
> Jim

Jackie,
I think we donated a slide of a sun pillar to the club's slide library a
number of years ago. Is it in there? Not as good as Tom's, but hey, we beat
Jim K. too :)
Kathy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>


> Terrific, Tom!   And, right on the front page, too.  How awesome.
>
> I, of course, didn't see it at all.  Sigh.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
>
> Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a
> really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it
> displayed on there website.

Shelley and Kevin:  Wow!  What great shots, considering it is with a new
camera.  I love them, especially since you have the setting sun in both
images.  Unfortunately for me, I have lots of trees towards the west, and we
didn't see it until after the sun had pretty much set.

I didn't do anything special as far as settings on my camera.  It was
totally set on automatic.  The exposure was 1/300 sec at f/2.6.  It's a good
thing it was a quick exposure because I didn't have time to get my tripod.
It faded pretty quick after I took a half dozen pictures.

As you are finding out, it is really nice to see the picture right after it
has been taken.

Would you like to learn how to reduce the size of your pictures so that
people who are seeing them on the net don't have to scan the image to see
the whole thing?  I can come over and show you how.

Jim:  I don't really know how rare sun pillars are, but I've only seen them
2 other times, unlike Rett's dozen.  I now take my Nikon Coopix everywhere I
go.

Dennis:  You may have been seeing a solar halo.  Pictures of this usually
have a short beam extending above the sun and sundogs on each side.  A
dimmer circle of light surrounds the  sun, but this may not have been
visible to you.  I sure would love to take a picture of this.

Tom

I didn't say I hadn't seen one. I just said I don't REMEMBER having seen
one. I could be just having another one of those senior moments. I've got
CRS disease. ( Can't Remember Stuff.) 8^).

Jim ...er....uhh...oh yeah...Ketchum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rett Alonzi" <ralonzi@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


> Let me get this straight...   I got to see a "celestial object" before
Jim?
> Yeeeeeee   Hawwwwwww!
>
> rett
>
>
> From: "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
>
>
> > Very Impressive. Don't remember ever seeing this particular phenomenon.
> >
> > Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Yes, Kathy - it is part of the slide library.  Once I have this Access Data
Base conquered, you and I can start to work on putting all the club's slides
into Access!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Kathy [mailto:kmachin@...] 
Sent:	Monday, January 07, 2002 7:21 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar

Jackie,
I think we donated a slide of a sun pillar to the club's slide library a
number of years ago. Is it in there? Not as good as Tom's, but hey, we beat
Jim K. too :)
Kathy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>


> Terrific, Tom!   And, right on the front page, too.  How awesome.
>
> I, of course, didn't see it at all.  Sigh.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: tom_j_martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:46 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
>
> Log on to Spaceweather.com.  Gloria and I saw and photographed a
> really nice sun pillar Saturday evening.  SpaceWeather.com has it
> displayed on there website.






 

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Oh Right!! Use age as an excuse it always works ;) shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ketchum [mailto:suenjim@...]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:58 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


I didn't say I hadn't seen one. I just said I don't REMEMBER having seen
one. I could be just having another one of those senior moments. I've got
CRS disease. ( Can't Remember Stuff.) 8^).

Jim ...er....uhh...oh yeah...Ketchum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rett Alonzi" <ralonzi@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar


> Let me get this straight...   I got to see a "celestial object" before
Jim?
> Yeeeeeee   Hawwwwwww!
>
> rett
>
>
> From: "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun Pillar
>
>
> > Very Impressive. Don't remember ever seeing this particular phenomenon.
> >
> > Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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On the Friday evening of 2002 Jan 11 between 7:42pm to 7:40pm Local 
Time, the 118 km diameter asteroid (74)Galatea will occult a 10.4 mag 
star in the constellation Pisces for observers along a path across 
USA (CA to NY). In the case of an occultation, the combined light of 
the asteroid and the star will drop by 2.9 mag to 13.2 mag (the 
magnitude of the asteroid) for at most 4.0 seconds.

This event crosses over the Kansas City Area. The northern limit runs 
from Leavenworth to north of Excelsior Springs; the southern limit 
runs from Wichita to Warrensburg. The centerline passes on a line 
through Olathe to Belton. This is an excellent opportunity to 
contribute some data. Those with a video camera are encouraged to 
video tape the event with WWV time signals. If you do not have video 
capabilities, but can go to a dark site, you can visually time the 
starting time and ending time of the event. You will noticeable see 
the star disappear. An 8" scope would be the minimum diameter for 
observing. 

If you intend to observe this event, please send me your site 
coordinates that you plan to use, so I can coordinate with Richard 
Wildes in Topeka.

This update is based on UNSO/Flagstaff astrometry for the asteroid 
kindly provided by Ron Stone, historical astrometry from AstDys, and 
the following catalogs for the star position: UCAC, Hipparcos , 
Tycho-2.

The event at a glimpse
----------------------
    * date and approx. time of event: 2002 Jan 12, 02:42 - 02:49 UT
    * magnitude of target star: 10.4
    * magnitude drop [mag]: 2.9
    * estimated maximum duration [s]: 4.0
    * Moon: 2 % sunlit, 90° distance
    * Sun: 73° distance
    * rough path description: USA (CA to NY)

The occultation path
--------------------
    * approximate projected width [km]: 126
    * 1 sigma uncertainty interval [path widths]: +/- 0.49
    * 1 sigma uncertainty interval approx RA,DE ["]: (+/- .036 +/- 
.033)
    * 1 sigma uncertainty ellipse (major, minor, PA): ( .036", .033", 
86° )
    * website for maps:
          http://lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm
          http://www.oz.net/~stevepr/Asteroids/asteroid.htm

Rob Robinon
VP of Occultation Services
IOTA

I promised I would get around to piling all of the tiled images of the 
Leonids together into one composite.  It took some time, but we now have the
completed 'ultimate goal of the expedition' posted online.  The shot is a
combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime exposures and 4 tiled
sunset exposures.

http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/

We still have some documenting and polishing to do before it's a print to
hang on the wall.   There are some very large planetary nebulae in the shot.
We found out what they were, but it's been 2 months and I forgot already.
No, they're NOT the LMC and Small Megelanic Cloud.  Those are in the
opposite direction.

Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies

Totally awesome.  You have "hit" me on this one!  I will have to have a
print!  wonderful work!

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:34 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Leonid composite


I promised I would get around to piling all of the tiled images of the
Leonids together into one composite.  It took some time, but we now have the
completed 'ultimate goal of the expedition' posted online.  The shot is a
combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime exposures and 4 tiled
sunset exposures.

http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/

We still have some documenting and polishing to do before it's a print to
hang on the wall.   There are some very large planetary nebulae in the shot.
We found out what they were, but it's been 2 months and I forgot already.
No, they're NOT the LMC and Small Megelanic Cloud.  Those are in the
opposite direction.

Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies







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--- In ASKC@y..., "sc285" <webmaster@l...> wrote:
> On the Friday evening of 2002 Jan 11 between 7:42pm to 7:40pm Local 
> Time, the 118 km diameter asteroid (74)Galatea will occult a 10.4 
mag 


Local time is 8:42pm to 8:49 !

from : Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
date: April 19, 2002
Where: Schlagle Environmental Library, KS,KS
What: Astronomy Day Sky Night
Donations for people: $2 groups above 10 $1 each
schedule: 
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) will present information about taking 
pictures with robotic telescopes and student may showcase their work]

needed:
*  two other presentations 
*  telescopes to be manned by members to show planets, nebula , galaxies what 
ever your pleasure

etc- will distribute flyers to local school districts, info to KC star 
There is a grill and we could even sell concessions
The center has a great room for presentations and mini workshops

 ? questions, let me know

Fabulous photo (s)!

Ron and Rosemary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic & Jen Winter" <webmaster@...>
To: <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Leonid composite


> I promised I would get around to piling all of the tiled images of the
> Leonids together into one composite.  It took some time, but we now have
the
> completed 'ultimate goal of the expedition' posted online.  The shot is a
> combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime exposures and 4 tiled
> sunset exposures.
>
> http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/
>
> We still have some documenting and polishing to do before it's a print to
> hang on the wall.   There are some very large planetary nebulae in the
shot.
> We found out what they were, but it's been 2 months and I forgot already.
> No, they're NOT the LMC and Small Megelanic Cloud.  Those are in the
> opposite direction.
>
> Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?
>
> Clear Skies,
> Jen Winter - Owner
> (913) 432-4636
>
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

On the evening of Friday, Jan 18th, at 7:55 pm local time, there will 
be an excellent southern limit graze of star 33 Piscium (magnitude 
4.6) The graze line runs SW to NE just a few miles south of 
Springhill Kansas. The moon will be 25% sunlit waxing, at an altitude 
of 25 degrees in the southwest. The spectral class of this triple 
star is K1 (orange).

I am currently looking for observers, to form an expedition. Bob 
Sandy will be leading mostly Missouri observers towards the Tarsney 
Lake area just east of Blue Springs.

This is an EARLY EVENING, START OF WEEKEND graze. For those that have 
never seen a graze, now is the perfect opportunity. Those with video 
cameras are encouraged to video tape this event. The star is bright 
enough, that even a hand held camcorder to the eyepiece will record 
the event. If you do not have video capabilities, you can still 
observe this visually. For those that have never done this, you need 
to contact me as soon as possible so I can send you a text file of 
equipment needed, and observing techniques.

The meeting time will be at 6:30pm (in order to allow plenty of set 
up time, and for optics to stabilize). I will be going out this 
weekend to locate good sites, and will post another message Sunday 
night concerning the meeting place (most likely somewhere in 
Springhill). 

If you live on the Missouri side, and want to join Bob Sandy, call 
him at 816-795-8116 for details. If you live on the Kansas side, and 
wish to join me, call me at 913-422-1262 or 913-422-1280. I will be 
posting more information on the IOTA website towards the end of the 
week with maps, charts, predictions etc.

Looking forward to seeing you there!


Rob Robinson
VP of Occultation Services
IOTA

Very nice Jen. I counted about 69 or 70??? shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:34 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Leonid composite


I promised I would get around to piling all of the tiled images of the
Leonids together into one composite.  It took some time, but we now have the
completed 'ultimate goal of the expedition' posted online.  The shot is a
combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime exposures and 4 tiled
sunset exposures.

http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/

We still have some documenting and polishing to do before it's a print to
hang on the wall.   There are some very large planetary nebulae in the shot.
We found out what they were, but it's been 2 months and I forgot already.
No, they're NOT the LMC and Small Megelanic Cloud.  Those are in the
opposite direction.

Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies







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Excellent + professional + wonderful + artistic =  Winters

I zoomed in and counted 106 Leonid meteors!

Fine job!
rett





 >The shot is a combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime
exposures and 4 tiled
> sunset exposures.
>
> http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/
>
> Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?

<blushes>

Thank you for the very embarrassing praise.   

We tend to sometimes think something more along the lines of:
obsessed + too much time on our hands + overactive imagination + lucky to
have some cool toys = Winters

-- - - Goodness knows that's what our children and neighbors think of us.
---- - -
("No!  They're going back into the basement!  We'll never see them again!"
"Come on Libby, let's raid the refrigerator! )

Our goal is to share cool sights.   Sometimes we get lucky.


Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


----------
From: "Rett Alonzi" <ralonzi@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Leonid composite
Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2002, 5:27 AM


Excellent + professional + wonderful + artistic =  Winters

I zoomed in and counted 106 Leonid meteors!

Fine job!
rett





 >The shot is a combination of 22 tiled and stacked guided nighttime
exposures and 4 tiled
> sunset exposures.
>
> http://www.icstars.com/HTML/Leonids2001/
>
> Anyone want to guess how many zingers are in this picture?








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Consider yourself officially invited personally 
by Vic and Jen to the Second Annual ICSTARS Star Party.

- All proceeds of the Star Party will directly benefit the StarGarden
Foundation Charles Douglas Memorial Observatory fund.

http://www.icstars.com/Ranch/starparty/index.html

It's a weekend event scheduled for September 27-29th 2002.  Don't worry.  We
checked and it doesn't conflict with other popular fall star parties in the
area.    We'll update the page as we have more details.

Mark your calendars now!   We hope you all can make it. .....

** We're also posting updates of our progress on the ICSTARS Lodge/cabin
here for those enjoy the amusement of watching other people trying to break
their necks building it themselves. **

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies

Eric - I would be there, but I have one of my library programs to do that
night....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:31 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] schlagle library astronomy day night


from : Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
date: April 19, 2002
Where: Schlagle Environmental Library, KS,KS
What: Astronomy Day Sky Night
Donations for people: $2 groups above 10 $1 each
schedule: 
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) will present information about taking 
pictures with robotic telescopes and student may showcase their work]

needed:
*  two other presentations 
*  telescopes to be manned by members to show planets, nebula , galaxies
what 
ever your pleasure

etc- will distribute flyers to local school districts, info to KC star 
There is a grill and we could even sell concessions
The center has a great room for presentations and mini workshops

 ? questions, let me know







 

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Hummmmm   It is the weekend of the ASKC meeting which is usually the picnic
at Powell....  I am torn!!!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:31 PM
To:	askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation

Consider yourself officially invited personally 
by Vic and Jen to the Second Annual ICSTARS Star Party.

- All proceeds of the Star Party will directly benefit the StarGarden
Foundation Charles Douglas Memorial Observatory fund.

Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 08:37:18 -0800 (PST)
   From: Ron Baalke <baalke@...>
Subject: SOHO's Private View Of A Sunbathing Comet



ESA Science News
http://sci.esa.int

08 Jan 2002

SOHO's private view of a sunbathing comet

You could see it easily with your unaided eye (but don't try!) if only
Comet Machholz 1 were not so very close to the Sun. This unusual comet,
reputed to flare up a lot, is today sweltering only 18 million
kilometres from the Sun. This is its closest approach on an orbit that
brings it back to the solar vicinity every 63 months. The best and
perhaps the only view of it at this time comes from the ESA-NASA
sunwatching spacecraft SOHO.

"It's great to see Comet Machholz 1 doing well in these SOHO images,'
says Don Machholz, who discovered it in 1986, as an amateur observing
in California. "I'm pleased to join you for these next few days as the
comet crosses the field."

The LASCO coronagraph on SOHO, designed for seeing outbursts from the
Sun, uses a mask to block the bright rays from the visible surface. It
monitors a large volume of surrounding space, and as a result it became
the most prolific discoverer of comets in the history of astronomy.
Most of them are small sungrazer comets that burn up completely in the
Sun's hot atmosphere.

Seen today with an impressive tail, Machholz 1 is a more robust, but
puzzling comet. No one is sure of the reason for its frequent outbursts.
Whether its icy nucleus is 1 kilometre or 10 kilometres wide is also
uncertain.

"Experts will look closely at the LASCO images, and at other images
from our ultraviolet coronagraph UVCS as well," says Paal Brekke,
ESA's deputy project scientist for SOHO. "We already know it's
unusually bright in the ultraviolet. Maybe we'll find out why Machholz
1 is idiosyncratic."

SOHO is a project of international cooperation between ESA and
NASA. The spacecraft was built in Europe for ESA and equipped with
instruments by teams of scientists in Europe and the USA. NASA
launched SOHO in December 1995, and in 1998 ESA and NASA decided to
extend its highly successful operations until 2003.

USEFUL LINKS FOR THIS STORY

* Movie of Comet Machholtz 1
  http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c3.mpg
* More about this comet
  http://comets.amsmeteors.org/comets/pcomets/096p.html
* More about SOHO
  http://sci.esa.int/soho/

IMAGE CAPTIONS:

[Image 1:
http://sci.esa.int/content/searchimage/searchresult.cfm?aid=14&cid=12&oid=2921

3&ooid=29212]
Comet Machholz 1 seen close to the Sun by SOHO on 8 January 2002. The
mask in the LASCO coronagraph hides the bright Sun, the size of which
is shown by the inner ring.

[Image 2:
http://sci.esa.int/content/searchimage/searchresult.cfm?aid=14&cid=12&oid=2921

3&ooid=29214]
SOHO also saw Comet Machholz 1 at its closest to the Sun in 1996,
although not as plainly as in 2002.

These images of Comet Machholz 1 were obtained by SOHO on 14 and 15
October 1996. Both were obtained by the Large Angle and Spectrometric
COronagraph (LASCO, C3). The top image was obtained on the 14th at
13:54:06 UT. The bottom image was obtained on the 15th at 00:30:05 UT.
The images were processed by Gary W. Kronk from the FTS images. The
contrast of the images was increased to enhance the tail. Subsequently
the Sun's corona is more overexposed than in the original images. 

In that case, we'll have to be sure to organize events to accommodate the 
picnic in some way.  While we can't reschedule the Star Party at this time,
we can organize the time and events so that ASKC'ers can attend both.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


----------
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>
To: "'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation
Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2002, 1:29 PM


Hummmmm   It is the weekend of the ASKC meeting which is usually the picnic
at Powell....  I am torn!!!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From:  Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:31 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation

Consider yourself officially invited personally
by Vic and Jen to the Second Annual ICSTARS Star Party.

- All proceeds of the Star Party will directly benefit the StarGarden
Foundation Charles Douglas Memorial Observatory fund.








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If memory serves, last years picnic wasn't on the normally scheduled meeting
date. Whatever happens, your willingness to work around it says a lot to me.
More than SOME star parties I've been to.

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic & Jen Winter" <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:05 AM
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC picnic


> In that case, we'll have to be sure to organize events to accommodate the
> picnic in some way.  While we can't reschedule the Star Party at this
time,
> we can organize the time and events so that ASKC'ers can attend both.
>
> Clear Skies,
> Jen Winter - Owner
> (913) 432-4636
>
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
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> From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>
> To: "'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation
> Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2002, 1:29 PM
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> Hummmmm   It is the weekend of the ASKC meeting which is usually the
picnic
> at Powell....  I am torn!!!
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
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> From:  Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:31 PM
> To: askc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation
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> Consider yourself officially invited personally
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>
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> Foundation Charles Douglas Memorial Observatory fund.
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Great pictures Vic and Jen.  I wish I could have been there.

Tom

Rob:  I just notice the "sc285" on your e-mail address.  What does that
stand for?
Did you get some pictures of Powell sent you a few weeks ago?

Tom

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From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>

Greetings
I am happy to say that my presentation / article entitled "The 10 Myths of 
the Internet " has been accepted for publication on  space.com
(the graphics don't show yet but that should be fixed soon)

Follow either of these links to the article

http://www.space.com/srn
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/index.html
http://www.space.com/SpaceReportersNetworkAstronomyDiscoveries/Flescher_Star_o

f_Bethlehem_1_010702.html

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com

Greetings
I am happy to say that my presentation / article entitled "The 10 Myths of 
the Internet " has been accepted for publication on  space.com
(the graphics don't show yet but that should be fixed soon)

Follow either of these links to the article

http://www.space.com/srn
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/index.html
http://www.space.com/SpaceReportersNetworkAstronomyDiscoveries/Flescher_Star_o

f_Bethlehem_1_010702.html

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com

Thanks for the invitation. I'll put it on the calendar.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:31 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ICSTARS Star Party invitation


Consider yourself officially invited personally
by Vic and Jen to the Second Annual ICSTARS Star Party.

- All proceeds of the Star Party will directly benefit the StarGarden
Foundation Charles Douglas Memorial Observatory fund.

http://www.icstars.com/Ranch/starparty/index.html

It's a weekend event scheduled for September 27-29th 2002.  Don't worry.  We
checked and it doesn't conflict with other popular fall star parties in the
area.    We'll update the page as we have more details.

Mark your calendars now!   We hope you all can make it. .....

** We're also posting updates of our progress on the ICSTARS Lodge/cabin
here for those enjoy the amusement of watching other people trying to break
their necks building it themselves. **

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
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--- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
> Rob:  I just notice the "sc285" on your e-mail address.  What does 
that
> stand for?
> Did you get some pictures of Powell sent you a few weeks ago?

I received the pictures of Powell - great shots. I have those tucked 
away, and will be using some of those for when the website is 
revamped in the next 45-60 days.

Regarding the "sc285" - that is the observatory station code assigned 
to my home coordinates, that is used by the International Lunar 
Occultation Centre, Geodesy and Geophysics Division, Tokyo Japan. 
This is where all observational data is sent for reduction.

Folks, David is looking for someone to represent ASKC at a table at the Dorothy Moody Elementary School  2nd Annual Science Night on February 26, 2002. (at the school at 10100 England in Overland Park, Kansas) See email below from them. Please contact David Young.
Thanks - Dave H.  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Young 
To: Dave Hudgins 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Fw: Volunteers for Science Night


Hi David,
This lady called me today and I asked her to send me a copy of an e-mail originally sent to Gil . If we could come up with some kind of presentation or display, I think we should do it. This might be a great time to use the projector or a computer with a power point presentation. The projector is available anytime for anyone.
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Diane Czarnecki 
To: dyoung8@... 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Volunteers for Science Night


Dorothy Moody Elementary School is holding their 2nd Annual Science Night on February 26, 2002, at the school at 10100 England in Overland Park, Kansas.  The event includes about 20 stations or hands-on exhibits, plus a keynote speaker, and is held along with the 5th Grade Science Fair.  One of the goals of the event is to peak the students' interest in various fields of science.  Our keynote speaker will be Dr. Marvin Dixon, a chemistry professor at William Jewell College; he will present a Chemistry Magic Show as a wizard.  We are currently looking for volunteers to provide exhibits.

One of the stations/exhibits that is returning is the Star Lab owned by the school district.  We are looking for additional assistance with this exhibit, as well as another exhibit to tie into the field of astronomy.  Many of our students have been to the Powell Observatory through scouting or other groups.  This would be a good forum to help promote your organization, as well as the field of astronomy. 

Among last year's participants were: UMKC Pharmacy School, Wonderscope, American Lung Association, Johnson County Water District #1, Science City, Shawnee Mission High School Environmental Laboratory,  and  Johnson County Extension Service.  Dr. Larry McKenna was our keynote speaker.  We want to rotate out one-third of last year's exhibits in order to provide more variety.  There were about 150 student attendees last year along with about 75 parents.  

If you are interested in providing an exhibit or station, please contact Diane Czarnecki at (816) 891-4964 during the day, or (913) 648-1685 in the evenings, or at the email address below.  

Thank you for helping us promote science education in the primary schools. 
 

Diane M. Czarnecki
Safety - Industrial Hygiene
816-891-4964
Diane Czarnecki@...




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It has often been said that in madness lies genius.   Hasn't it?  Or 
something to that effect?!   At any rate, no matter how mad those 
cameras make you, STILL great photos!

The observatory has been reserved by Randy Thompson for tonight, Friday January 11. He said come one come all. Jupiter and Saturn should be spectacular!


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I have two groups scheduled for Saturday night and only one person volunteered.

Can anyone lend a hand? I'm going to give it a go but I've been sick for 4 days and I don't know if I'll be much of a help. 


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Hi David,

I'd love to help, but I've got "previous committments" until around 
8:30. If one of the groups is wanting to start late I'll be glad to 
help out. The weather forecast looks very encouraging, so I assume
the usual fun and games will probably be engaged in later...

Sincerely,
Richard Fredrick

--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I have two groups scheduled for Saturday night and only one person 
volunteered.
> 
> Can anyone lend a hand? I'm going to give it a go but I've been
sick 
for 4 days and I don't know if I'll be much of a help. 
> 
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David, I can help and I'd love to.  Please email me any details.

Kyle

David Young wrote:
> 
> I have two groups scheduled for Saturday night and only one person volunteered.
> 
> Can anyone lend a hand? I'm going to give it a go but I've been sick for 4 days and I don't know if I'll be much of a help.

  Hi David,

  I'd love to help, but I've got "previous committments" until around 
  8:30. If one of the groups is wanting to start late I'll be glad to 
  help out. The weather forecast looks very encouraging, so I assume
  the usual fun and games will probably be engaged in later...


  The first group is kiddies but the second batch is a group from a 50th anniversary party. The rub is the "bought a star".  They will be arriving around 7:45 or so. We will do the dog and pony show and try to image "their" star with the 12" while they ogle things through the 30". "Their" star is 13.5 mag so it will be tough to spot through an eyepiece with any certainty. It may be tough to identify in a ccd image! We'll give it a shot.

  By the way, if someone has already "bought" a star it's usually as gift so I never tell them what a scam it is. I figure it's the thought that counts and I don't rain on their parade by telling them they've been screwed by professional rip-off artists.


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Please email me any details.

Tonight's (Jan 12) fun and games:

Ellen Wright will be there with twenty five 3rd and 4th graders about 5:30 PM. They will be done by 7:00 or 7:30 PM.

The second group is from a 50th anniversary party with about 20 people. 
The rub is they "bought a star".  They will be arriving around 7:45 or so. I thought w might do the dog and pony show with the 30" on planets and try to image "their" star with the 12" while they ogle things through the 30". "Their" star is 13.5 mag so it will be tough to spot through an eyepiece with any certainty. It may be tough to identify in a CCD image! We'll give it a shot. "Their star is in Eridanus pretty close to Rigel at RA 4 hr 50 m 28.15 d   Dec -9 49m  0.44 s   Mag 13.5

By the way, if someone has already "bought" a star it's usually a gift so I don't tell them what I think of the process and the people who sold it to them. I figure it's the thought that counts and I don't rain on their parade. 

Thanks for jumping in!


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Thanks David, I'll be there early to get stuff set up.

Kyle

David Young wrote:
> 
> Tonight's (Jan 12) fun and games:
...

David:     Tim Kristl and myself will be coming down
to Powell to image some Arps with the 12" at 7:00 pm
tonight. We would be happy to image that 13.5
magnitude star in Eridanus for you. See you there;
Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> Please email me any details.
> 
> Tonight's (Jan 12) fun and games:
> 
> Ellen Wright will be there with twenty five 3rd and
> 4th graders about 5:30 PM. They will be done by 7:00
> or 7:30 PM.
> 
> The second group is from a 50th anniversary party
> with about 20 people. 
> The rub is they "bought a star".  They will be
> arriving around 7:45 or so. I thought w might do the
> dog and pony show with the 30" on planets and try to
> image "their" star with the 12" while they ogle
> things through the 30". "Their" star is 13.5 mag so
> it will be tough to spot through an eyepiece with
> any certainty. It may be tough to identify in a CCD
> image! We'll give it a shot. "Their star is in
> Eridanus pretty close to Rigel at RA 4 hr 50 m 28.15
> d   Dec -9 49m  0.44 s   Mag 13.5
> 
> By the way, if someone has already "bought" a star
> it's usually a gift so I don't tell them what I
> think of the process and the people who sold it to
> them. I figure it's the thought that counts and I
> don't rain on their parade. 
> 
> Thanks for jumping in!
> 
> 
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> 
> 


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Thanks to Jackie Wade, Kyle Smalley, Richard Fredrick for helping with two groups Saturday night. Bill Boyle and Tim Krystl imaged a star for the second group. The gang raised $100 for the club!


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Jackie who?   :-)

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:26 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Saturday night program


Thanks to Jackie Wade, Kyle Smalley, Richard Fredrick for helping with two
groups Saturday night. Bill Boyle and Tim Krystl imaged a star for the
second group. The gang raised $100 for the club!


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Better watch it David, there's gonna be a beatin!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Beucher [mailto:m31@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:36 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Saturday night program


Jackie who?   :-)

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 1:26 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Saturday night program


Thanks to Jackie Wade, Kyle Smalley, Richard Fredrick for helping with two
groups Saturday night. Bill Boyle and Tim Krystl imaged a star for the
second group. The gang raised $100 for the club!


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Better watch it David, there's gonna be a beatin!



Jackie who?   :-)



I can't help it, I'm old and my mind has gone somewhere else this week. I've got a good excuse. I've been sick for days. Marcia's got it this morning and she told me to leave her alone to die in piece so I came down to play on the computer. Maybe I would be safer going over to Jackie's? Nah. Better go to the store and get some food if I want to eat later today.


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Well, David... I have a day FULL of making League updates to the data base.
You are sure welcome to join me!  HA!

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:30 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Saturday night program


Better watch it David, there's gonna be a beatin!



Jackie who?   :-)



I can't help it, I'm old and my mind has gone somewhere else this week. I've
got a good excuse. I've been sick for days. Marcia's got it this morning and
she told me to leave her alone to die in piece so I came down to play on the
computer. Maybe I would be safer going over to Jackie's? Nah. Better go to
the store and get some food if I want to eat later today.


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I have the eyepiece extension for the 30" here for repair. The set screw holes are nearly stripped and there is a danger of an eyepiece falling out. I'll have new holes drilled and threaded today. I have an 8/32 tap and a #29 drill. I should be able to find some suitable set screws at Westlake's. If it works as easily as I think it will, I'll add another set screw to the AP8P focuser to see if we can eliminate the paper clip kludge.


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Joe Wright and I put a couple of new tapped holes in the focuser today. Joe has it and will drop it off at Powell Tuesday evening. He also has an electric drill with some bits, an 8/32 tap and a couple of extra screw. He will drill and tap a new screw hole in the AP8P focuser to eliminate the need for the paper clip.


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Joe Wright will return the repaired eyepiece holder to Powell Tuesday night. I'm leaving for not so Great Bend now and will be back Thursday. In the meantime, if you want to use Powell, please contact Dick Trentman or David Hudgins.


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But David, the paper clip "kludge" (as you call it.  Is this really a word?)  
has so much character!!!!
Tim

Tim:    Are you talking about David or the paper
clip?????? They are both characters.........  Bill
--- TKristl100@... wrote:
> But David, the paper clip "kludge" (as you call it. 
> Is this really a word?)  
> has so much character!!!!
> Tim
> 


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The handbooks are here. I'll try to remember to take one to Powell the next time I go down. If you want to pick yours up at Powell let me know and I'll drop it there. Otherwise, I'll bring them to the general meeting.


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Thanks David, I'll get mine at the GM.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] handbooks


The handbooks are here. I'll try to remember to take one to Powell the next
time I go down. If you want to pick yours up at Powell let me know and I'll
drop it there. Otherwise, I'll bring them to the general meeting.


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I just booked a group of 20 Brownies for Sunday night. Hmmm.... I wonder if they will bring brownies?  Anybody interested in helping me with a program that night?


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Dude,

I'm there.

No work monday.

Joe

David,

Payment in cash or cookies?

Hee, Hee

That's right, Joe.  It is cookie-time.

Count us in, we'll be there.  

(BTW, for those who ordered cookies from Libby... we'll have cookies up at
the general meeting on the 26th.  - - And those who change their minds and
don't want to pick them up, look out because the kids are hoping there will
be some un-claimed merchandise)

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


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From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Sunday night
Date: Thu, Jan 17, 2002, 3:26 AM


I just booked a group of 20 Brownies for Sunday night. Hmmm.... I wonder if
they will bring brownies?  Anybody interested in helping me with a program
that night?


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Boy, don't I know it.  I was a very happy camper when Rita got them out
of my garage.

This afternoon Bryan Dembinski reviewed with me the final version of the video about Powell Observatory and the ASKC that he has created along with a team of ASKC members. The video  is really, really, a knockout!!!

Bryan took a lot of video of the observatory and people operating the telescope, and combined with many, many images contributed by club members of star parties, meetings, astronomical images, and various club activities. We wrote a script and Dave Dembinski persuaded a "professional  voice" to do the narration. On top of the images and narration, Bentley Ousley  composed some absolutely top-notch original "space music" that really brings the video to life! 

It runs a little over six minutes -  and is just perfect for our use at public nights, to show at private star parties, and general promoting of the club, Powell Observatory, and our new Starbright Saturday Night public programs to start in May.   You are going to love it! : ^ )

Our plan is to debut the video at the January General Meeting! 

Unfortunately the filmmaker, Bryan Dembinski, will have get back to college at NYU (filmmaking major) before our Jan. 26 meeting ...but I hope that his folks, David and Karin Dembinski, can be at the premier to represent him!

I hope you all will be there ...with popcorn! : ^ )

Dave H. 




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I received this on one of the maillists I belong to.
I am forwarding it to the group for anyone interested.

>Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:24:31 EST
>Subject: [SHALLOW] NASA Survey on Solar System Exploration
>To: shallow-sky@...
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I strongly encourage each and everyone of you to fill out this survey 
>(<https://planetary.org/survey/phorm.php3>https://planetary.org/survey/phorm.php3) 
>for the Planetary Decadal Survey which will be used to gauge public 
>interest by NASA on missions to explore the solar system.
>
>I hope everyone supports sending missions to places we haven't been and 
>especially the Pluto-Kuiper Mission!
>
>Please do forward this out to anyone you know it isn't just for space 
>fanatics its for taxpayers, tell NASA what you want them to do with your 
>money, this is again used by NASA to plan out solar system exploration, in 
>other words its important to fill out so we don't see planetary 
>exploration axed.






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I am scheduling the Battle of Lexington star party for either July 13, or August 10. These are second Saturdays and two or three days past new moon.

If anyone sees a problem or conflict with either of these dates please let me know before we get them set in stone (published in their flyer)


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Hey all, Larry Goode came over with an inexpesive dew zapper that he found
at Target.  It's a 12 volt 200-watt portable car heater.  It's about 5"
square and is meant to be used for autos, campers, boats, etc.  But it
should work great as a dew zapper for your telescope and camera lenses.  I
tried it out.  It puts out plenty of heat.  More so if the car is running.
Its on clearance for $13.90, reg $19.99.

Tom

While at the Okie-Tex Star Party, many ASKCers were impressed by a binocular
chair that was on display.  I was going to buy the chair, but then decided
to buy the plans to make the chair.  Well, Larry Goode, or was it Sharon,
won the plans as a door prize.  Larry, Sharon, Gloria and myself are slowly
getting the parts to put two chairs together.  Larry found the aluminum
tubes and the chairs we need and will be gathering other parts in the next
few days.

we will be starting to put them together soon, maybe even next weekend.  If
anyone is interested in making one, call Larry Goode.  This is a one time
offer only.

Tom & Larry

Thanks for the heads up Tom.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:08 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Dew Zapper


Hey all, Larry Goode came over with an inexpesive dew zapper that he found
at Target.  It's a 12 volt 200-watt portable car heater.  It's about 5"
square and is meant to be used for autos, campers, boats, etc.  But it
should work great as a dew zapper for your telescope and camera lenses.  I
tried it out.  It puts out plenty of heat.  More so if the car is running.
Its on clearance for $13.90, reg $19.99.

Tom




 

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That sounds great. What do I need to get a copy of the plans. Dick T.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 8:35 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Binocular chair


While at the Okie-Tex Star Party, many ASKCers were impressed by a binocular
chair that was on display.  I was going to buy the chair, but then decided
to buy the plans to make the chair.  Well, Larry Goode, or was it Sharon,
won the plans as a door prize.  Larry, Sharon, Gloria and myself are slowly
getting the parts to put two chairs together.  Larry found the aluminum
tubes and the chairs we need and will be gathering other parts in the next
few days.

we will be starting to put them together soon, maybe even next weekend.  If
anyone is interested in making one, call Larry Goode.  This is a one time
offer only.

Tom & Larry







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http://www.spaceweather.com/meteors/gallery_18nov01_page6.html

leonid pic gallery fyi

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com

Visit the following NASA Liftoff web site to receive
e-mails weekly of the ISS and/or shuttle passes at:

http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov

Put in your zip code, then on the next page click on
"J-Pass E-Mail" to have NASA let you know when to look
up.


http://www.heavens-above.com

Simply click on the country, then put in your city and
bookmark the main page that comes up for your specific
location. From there, you can find out any satellite
passing over your area, and even print out a sky map
showing the path through the sky. Also can  print out
star charts, and other astronomical info to pass on 

For those of us who ordered a Handbook:
I picked up some information on another Yahoo Group--
Apparently there are a couple of minor corrections to the Handbook.
If you are interested, look under under the Publications section at
 www.rasc.ca
One problem is with a table on Meteor showers which shows an incorrect %
moonlight.
The RASC site has a PDF file you can download showing the correct table, so
it is an easy fix.
Considering how data-packed the Handbook is, it is truly amazing that there
aren't any more problems.
Thanks David, for taking the time to handle the orders :)
Kathy

Ladies and Gentlemen -- This just in!  (Jim Ketchum, pay attention!!) ----

The Galaxy Groups and Clusters manual is now out, so that Observe Club can
now be added to the website.

Here is the link to the Galaxy Groups and Clusters website:
http://www.rca-omsi.org/ggc/index.htm    Also here is the link to the it's
page on the sales website:  http://astronomicalleague.com/galaxy.htm

The price of the manual is $16.00.  It is a very nice manual and worth the
price.

Marion


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Hello, fellow-ASKC'rs....

As you know, I am behind the time frame I had originally set up to seriously
start looking for a League office.  I will be able to turn my attention that
way in February.  I need to know from YOU if you are interested in helping
in any way.  I need to establish a firm committee for this purpose.  You can
volunteer other ASKC members as well, and I will not reveal my sources.
Even if we have talked before, please reply to me if you want to be part of
this...

IMMEDIATE NEED --  I have a friend at Black & Veatch who can get us ALL THE
FREE OFFICE FURNITURE we want for the League office.  This will be 3-4 desks
and ??? file cabinets, a computer or two, maybe some cubicle dividers.  [we
can get some of this for the "ASKC" needs, too...].    I need strong bodies
and vehicles to tote and move these items AND a place to store them until we
locate the League office.   Establishing the office may take 2-3 months or
so.  Does anyone out there have a place we can put this stuff?  It would fit
in the space that one car would take up in a garage.  Come to think of it, I
may have room for some of it if I rearrange things....but will wait to hear
what you folks might have available.

The furniture would have to be moved around the first of February, give or
take a few days.

Thanks for your help!

Jackie
Exec. Sec.....


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I can help with the moving with a pick-up truck and do some toting and lifting.

I may be able to help with the league office staffing but can't say for sure until I find out what you need and where the office is going to be. Maybe a few week nights now and then and the odd Saturday?


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Jackie,

I can help any day but Feb 9 & 10.  I can probably get a small flatbed
trailer.  We used it to move the scout stuff to our new location.  If
not, I have a 4x8 open trailer that when can use along with my truck.

Joe

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Thanks, Joe.  I will see what I can set up.  I will probably get 4 desks,
and as many file cabinets as we can get.  Chairs.  This would be good.
Maybe I can set I up for Feb. 2-3rd...  I will let you know!
Hummmm.......how much can I cram into my garage??

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:18 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League Office

Jackie,

I can help any day but Feb 9 & 10.  I can probably get a small flatbed
trailer.  We used it to move the scout stuff to our new location.  If
not, I have a 4x8 open trailer that when can use along with my truck.

Joe





 

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That would be great, David!  So now I have a truck, and two bodies.  I may
try and set up something for Sat. Feb. 1.  If anyone else can help, it would
be great.  

Also.... Does the ASKC or any of it's committee people need any file
cabinets?  Or anything else??

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:18 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League Office

I can help with the moving with a pick-up truck and do some toting and
lifting.

I may be able to help with the league office staffing but can't say for sure
until I find out what you need and where the office is going to be. Maybe a
few week nights now and then and the odd Saturday?


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Jackie, I can probably give you a hand. Let me know when.

Any progress on a location for the office?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:06 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League Office


That would be great, David!  So now I have a truck, and two bodies.  I may
try and set up something for Sat. Feb. 1.  If anyone else can help, it would
be great.

Also.... Does the ASKC or any of it's committee people need any file
cabinets?  Or anything else??

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:18 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League Office

I can help with the moving with a pick-up truck and do some toting and
lifting.

I may be able to help with the league office staffing but can't say for sure
until I find out what you need and where the office is going to be. Maybe a
few week nights now and then and the odd Saturday?


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Gary (and all). --  No progress... not really.  Because I had to put it on
the "back burner" for awhile.  My house was torn up all fall, and now the
new Exec. Sec. office is truly loading me down  - so much so, that I'm going
to have to burn some vacation days to get caught up.  But... we need to
start hunting for an office in earnest now.  And, I'm taking volunteers!  I
will probably have a meeting at my house for all parties interested, in
about 2 weeks or so.   The League has budgeted the money, so that is not a
problem.  I have been the only problem in getting this off the ground!

I truly want input from everyone who is interested.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:27 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] League Office

Jackie, I can probably give you a hand. Let me know when.

Any progress on a location for the office?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:06 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League Office


That would be great, David!  So now I have a truck, and two bodies.  I may
try and set up something for Sat. Feb. 1.  If anyone else can help, it would
be great.

Also.... Does the ASKC or any of it's committee people need any file
cabinets?  Or anything else??

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:18 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League Office

I can help with the moving with a pick-up truck and do some toting and
lifting.

I may be able to help with the league office staffing but can't say for sure
until I find out what you need and where the office is going to be. Maybe a
few week nights now and then and the odd Saturday?


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I noticed there is some space available on Connecticut down in the east
bottoms just around the corner from EMJ. It's a little strip office
building. Don't know what the specifics are. You might want to look at it on
the way home from work some evening. Just go south on Universal and make a
right on Equitable. Turn left on Commerce and right on Connecticut. Go about
a half block and watch on your right.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:34 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League Office


Gary (and all). --  No progress... not really.  Because I had to put it on
the "back burner" for awhile.  My house was torn up all fall, and now the
new Exec. Sec. office is truly loading me down  - so much so, that I'm going
to have to burn some vacation days to get caught up.  But... we need to
start hunting for an office in earnest now.  And, I'm taking volunteers!  I
will probably have a meeting at my house for all parties interested, in
about 2 weeks or so.   The League has budgeted the money, so that is not a
problem.  I have been the only problem in getting this off the ground!

I truly want input from everyone who is interested.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent:	Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:27 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] League Office

Jackie, I can probably give you a hand. Let me know when.

Any progress on a location for the office?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:06 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League Office


That would be great, David!  So now I have a truck, and two bodies.  I may
try and set up something for Sat. Feb. 1.  If anyone else can help, it would
be great.

Also.... Does the ASKC or any of it's committee people need any file
cabinets?  Or anything else??

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent:	Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:18 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League Office

I can help with the moving with a pick-up truck and do some toting and
lifting.

I may be able to help with the league office staffing but can't say for sure
until I find out what you need and where the office is going to be. Maybe a
few week nights now and then and the odd Saturday?


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... So will there be a multi-media projector from Powell at the meeting Saturday night or do I need to bring mine along?

-Scott

Scott, would please be sure to bring your no matter what? We are premiering the new ASKC video...and I know yours has good audio output. We need to test out the other projectors. They seem awfully big to be carrying to the GM.

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:46 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Program(s) for Saturday night's General Meeting


  ... So will there be a multi-media projector from Powell at the meeting Saturday night or do I need to bring mine along?

  -Scott






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You will be bringing a VCR then, right?  I have the cables to plug the VCR to the projector.


>>> dhudgins@... 01/24/02 12:00PM >>>
Scott, would please be sure to bring your no matter what? We are premiering the new ASKC video...and I know yours has good audio output. We need to test out the other projectors. They seem awfully big to be carrying to the GM.

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:46 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Program(s) for Saturday night's General Meeting


  ... So will there be a multi-media projector from Powell at the meeting Saturday night or do I need to bring mine along?

  -Scott






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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:46 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Program(s) for Saturday night's General Meeting


  ... So will there be a multi-media projector from Powell at the meeting Saturday night or do I need to bring mine along?

  I will bring the clunker. It will only do 640 X 480. I haven't taken it to Powell yet and have only played with it breifly. It might be a good idea to bring yours in case this one is not suitable for a large room. It will be a good test.


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Scott, yes, actually Bentley Ousley will bring the VCR.   Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Program(s) for Saturday night's General Meeting


  You will be bringing a VCR then, right?  I have the cables to plug the VCR to the projector.


  >>> dhudgins@... 01/24/02 12:00PM >>>
  Scott, would please be sure to bring your no matter what? We are premiering the new ASKC video...and I know yours has good audio output. We need to test out the other projectors. They seem awfully big to be carrying to the GM.

  Dave H.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Scott Kranz 
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:46 AM
    Subject: [ASKC] Program(s) for Saturday night's General Meeting


    ... So will there be a multi-media projector from Powell at the meeting Saturday night or do I need to bring mine along?

    -Scott






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Anyway Amy will not be at the January meeting. She will be in sunny
California. She needs people to bring treats this month. 

D. Young will be bringing 2# of cheese cubes, 4# of teriyaki chicken cubes, and 2 boxes of crackers.

Joe Wright plans to bring 3 gallons of punch but can bring 3 gallons of tea also.

Anyone know who else is bring stuff tonight.


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I'll bring cookies and other sweet stuff...  Maybe some chips too.

Gina
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:34 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] January General Meeting


  Anyway Amy will not be at the January meeting. She will be in sunny
  California. She needs people to bring treats this month.

  D. Young will be bringing 2# of cheese cubes, 4# of teriyaki chicken
cubes, and 2 boxes of crackers.

  Joe Wright plans to bring 3 gallons of punch but can bring 3 gallons of
tea also.

  Anyone know who else is bring stuff tonight.


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Here is the initial draft of the proposed new team structure. The first person listed for a team is the team leader. Team leaders, please tell me about any errors in spelling and other silly mistakes I may have made. Team leaders, please check with each proposed member of your team to be sure they are ok with this arrangement. We will try to accommodate any desired changes. I will mail a copy of this to Mike Larkin and Nick Reuss. I think all other team leaders read e-groups but just to be sure, team leaders, please respond to this e-mail so I know you received it.

Team #1
Carroll Iorg
Randy Thompson
Merlin Anderson
Greg North
Debbie Harrelson
Elizabeth Brown

Team #2
David Young
Roger Gruenke
Marty Peters
David Brackey
Bill All
Mark Rump     assistant

Team #3
Jackie Beucher
Mike Stewart
Rett Alonzi
Dan Johnson
David Neuenschwander
Dianne Sharp

Team #4
Mike Larkin
Walt Robinson
Vic Winter
Bob Mortenson
David Hudgins
Gary Martin

Team #5
Nick Reuss
Donald Reuss
David Probert
Dick Trentman
Nancy Reuss   assistant
Ron Turley      assistant

Team #6
Kyle Smalley
Richard Fredrick
Denise Moser
Steve Tanquary
Tom Martinez
Bill Thompson

Team #7
Lario Yerino
Joe Alburty
Dennis Budd
gil Machin
Steve Berg
Eric Flescher
Bill Boyle

Team #8
Joe Wright
Rita Wright
Shelly Grainger
Mike Cofer
Scott Kranz
Tim Kristl



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got it dude

Well you sure screwed up my name :) Shelley Granger

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New teams


Here is the initial draft of the proposed new team structure. The first
person listed for a team is the team leader. Team leaders, please tell me
about any errors in spelling and other silly mistakes I may have made. Team
leaders, please check with each proposed member of your team to be sure they
are ok with this arrangement. We will try to accommodate any desired
changes. I will mail a copy of this to Mike Larkin and Nick Reuss. I think
all other team leaders read e-groups but just to be sure, team leaders,
please respond to this e-mail so I know you received it.

Team #1
Carroll Iorg
Randy Thompson
Merlin Anderson
Greg North
Debbie Harrelson
Elizabeth Brown

Team #2
David Young
Roger Gruenke
Marty Peters
David Brackey
Bill All
Mark Rump     assistant

Team #3
Jackie Beucher
Mike Stewart
Rett Alonzi
Dan Johnson
David Neuenschwander
Dianne Sharp

Team #4
Mike Larkin
Walt Robinson
Vic Winter
Bob Mortenson
David Hudgins
Gary Martin

Team #5
Nick Reuss
Donald Reuss
David Probert
Dick Trentman
Nancy Reuss   assistant
Ron Turley      assistant

Team #6
Kyle Smalley
Richard Fredrick
Denise Moser
Steve Tanquary
Tom Martinez
Bill Thompson

Team #7
Lario Yerino
Joe Alburty
Dennis Budd
gil Machin
Steve Berg
Eric Flescher
Bill Boyle

Team #8
Joe Wright
Rita Wright
Shelly Grainger
Mike Cofer
Scott Kranz
Tim Kristl



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  Well you sure screwed up my name :) Shelley Granger

  Why should I listen to you? You're not a team leader!

  (snicker)


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Welcome to the Space Calendar!

This Space Calendar covers space-related activities and anniversaries
for the upcoming year.  It is also available on the web at:

     http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/calendar/

The web version of the Space Calendar includes over 1,300 links to related
home pages.

This calendar is compiled and maintained by Ron Baalke.  Please send any
updates or corrections to ron@....  Note that launch dates
are subject to change at any time.  Also, note that anniversary dates are
listed in 5 year increments only.

Does anyone have an email address for David Neuenschwander?

Also, Diane Sharp's first name has only one "n" in it....

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New teams


Here is the initial draft of the proposed new team structure. The first
person listed for a team is the team leader. Team leaders, please tell me
about any errors in spelling and other silly mistakes I may have made. Team
leaders, please check with each proposed member of your team to be sure they
are ok with this arrangement. We will try to accommodate any desired
changes. I will mail a copy of this to Mike Larkin and Nick Reuss. I think
all other team leaders read e-groups but just to be sure, team leaders,
please respond to this e-mail so I know you received it.

Team #1
Carroll Iorg
Randy Thompson
Merlin Anderson
Greg North
Debbie Harrelson
Elizabeth Brown

Team #2
David Young
Roger Gruenke
Marty Peters
David Brackey
Bill All
Mark Rump     assistant

Team #3
Jackie Beucher
Mike Stewart
Rett Alonzi
Dan Johnson
David Neuenschwander
Dianne Sharp

Team #4
Mike Larkin
Walt Robinson
Vic Winter
Bob Mortenson
David Hudgins
Gary Martin

Team #5
Nick Reuss
Donald Reuss
David Probert
Dick Trentman
Nancy Reuss   assistant
Ron Turley      assistant

Team #6
Kyle Smalley
Richard Fredrick
Denise Moser
Steve Tanquary
Tom Martinez
Bill Thompson

Team #7
Lario Yerino
Joe Alburty
Dennis Budd
gil Machin
Steve Berg
Eric Flescher
Bill Boyle

Team #8
Joe Wright
Rita Wright
Shelly Grainger
Mike Cofer
Scott Kranz
Tim Kristl



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I will answer myself -- Rett gave me the email address I needed!  thanks....

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Beucher [mailto:m31@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New teams


Does anyone have an email address for David Neuenschwander?

Also, Diane Sharp's first name has only one "n" in it....

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New teams


Here is the initial draft of the proposed new team structure. The first
person listed for a team is the team leader. Team leaders, please tell me
about any errors in spelling and other silly mistakes I may have made. Team
leaders, please check with each proposed member of your team to be sure they
are ok with this arrangement. We will try to accommodate any desired
changes. I will mail a copy of this to Mike Larkin and Nick Reuss. I think
all other team leaders read e-groups but just to be sure, team leaders,
please respond to this e-mail so I know you received it.

Team #1
Carroll Iorg
Randy Thompson
Merlin Anderson
Greg North
Debbie Harrelson
Elizabeth Brown

Team #2
David Young
Roger Gruenke
Marty Peters
David Brackey
Bill All
Mark Rump     assistant

Team #3
Jackie Beucher
Mike Stewart
Rett Alonzi
Dan Johnson
David Neuenschwander
Dianne Sharp

Team #4
Mike Larkin
Walt Robinson
Vic Winter
Bob Mortenson
David Hudgins
Gary Martin

Team #5
Nick Reuss
Donald Reuss
David Probert
Dick Trentman
Nancy Reuss   assistant
Ron Turley      assistant

Team #6
Kyle Smalley
Richard Fredrick
Denise Moser
Steve Tanquary
Tom Martinez
Bill Thompson

Team #7
Lario Yerino
Joe Alburty
Dennis Budd
gil Machin
Steve Berg
Eric Flescher
Bill Boyle

Team #8
Joe Wright
Rita Wright
Shelly Grainger
Mike Cofer
Scott Kranz
Tim Kristl



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Here's the first revision to the team list. Denise Moser has been removed from team #6. David Hudgins has been moved to replace her on team #6. Bill Boyle has been moved from team to team #4. 

Please e-mail or call to suggest changes.

  Team #1
  Carroll Iorg
  Randy Thompson
  Merlin Anderson
  Greg North
  Debbie Harrelson
  Elizabeth Brown

  Team #2
  David Young
  Roger Gruenke
  David Brackey
  Bill All
  Mark Rump     assistant
  Marty Peters  assistant

  Team #3
  Jackie Beucher
  Mike Stewart
  Rett Alonzi
  Dan Johnson
  David Neuenschwander
  Diane Sharp

  Team #4
  Mike Larkin
  Walt Robinson
  Vic Winter
  Bob Mortenson
  Gary Martin
  Bill Boyle

  Team #5
  Nick Reuss
  Donald Reuss
  David Probert
  Dick Trentman
  Nancy Reuss   assistant
  Ron Turley    assistant

  Team #6
  Kyle Smalley
  Richard Fredrick
  Steve Tanquary
  Tom Martinez
  Bill Thompson
  David Hudgins

  Team #7
  Lario Yerino
  Joe Alburty
  Dennis Budd
  Gil Machin
  Steve Berg
  Eric Flescher

  Team #8
  Joe Wright
  Rita Wright
  Shelley Granger
  Mike Cofer
  Scott Kranz
  Tim Kristl




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Does anyone on this list work for hallmark or do any kind of arts or
graphics work? the reason im asking is jessica and josh need to job shadow
someone for school and she would like to showdow someone in the art world.
thanks shelley

Larry/Tom:

This sounds like a great article for the Cosmic Messenger!  :-) 
Pictures of the project and a short story about the whole thing would 
be of interest to a lot of members.

I would also like to know how to get a copy of the plans or view 
them. A binocular chair is high on my list of astronomy to-do 
projects. (Unfortuately, this list has a lower priority than the 
Miles family CFO's home remodeling to-do list. :-) )

Fiske

If you're planning to attend the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party on 
February 16, please let me know. The star party will be held at 
Powell Observatory. I talked it over with Dave Hudgins, and we 
decided on Powell because it's easy for people to find and has heated 
facilities. :-)

Fiske

PS: If you're willing to bring hot chocolate or other goodies, please 
let me know that too. The Miles household chef (aka the CFO) will be 
cooking something up.

PSS: Since I'm not a keyholder, I'll need help from someone who is to 
make sure the observatory is open, etc.

"..... and has heated facilities"??????

isn't this a Polar Bear Star Party......  

hehehehe



>>> FiskeM3@... 01/28/02 09:42AM >>>
If you're planning to attend the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party on 
February 16, please let me know. The star party will be held at 
Powell Observatory. I talked it over with Dave Hudgins, and we 
decided on Powell because it's easy for people to find and has heated 
facilities. :-)

Fiske

PS: If you're willing to bring hot chocolate or other goodies, please 
let me know that too. The Miles household chef (aka the CFO) will be 
cooking something up.

PSS: Since I'm not a keyholder, I'll need help from someone who is to 
make sure the observatory is open, etc.





 

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Fiske, yes, I plan to be there!!!   dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fiskem3 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:42 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party


  If you're planning to attend the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party on 
  February 16, please let me know. The star party will be held at 
  Powell Observatory. I talked it over with Dave Hudgins, and we 
  decided on Powell because it's easy for people to find and has heated 
  facilities. :-)

  Fiske

  PS: If you're willing to bring hot chocolate or other goodies, please 
  let me know that too. The Miles household chef (aka the CFO) will be 
  cooking something up.

  PSS: Since I'm not a keyholder, I'll need help from someone who is to 
  make sure the observatory is open, etc.


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It depends on how cold it is if I will be there.  But I would like to come
down....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...] 
Sent:	Monday, January 28, 2002 11:28 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party

Fiske, yes, I plan to be there!!!   dave
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  From: fiskem3 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:42 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party


  If you're planning to attend the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party on 
  February 16, please let me know. The star party will be held at 
  Powell Observatory. I talked it over with Dave Hudgins, and we 
  decided on Powell because it's easy for people to find and has heated 
  facilities. :-)

  Fiske

  PS: If you're willing to bring hot chocolate or other goodies, please 
  let me know that too. The Miles household chef (aka the CFO) will be 
  cooking something up.

  PSS: Since I'm not a keyholder, I'll need help from someone who is to 
  make sure the observatory is open, etc.


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--- In ASKC@y..., "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@e...> wrote:
> It depends on how cold it is if I will be there. 

Wimp.....[grin]
Who cares how cold it is, if there are heated facilities?
5 minutes out.....10 minutes in
5 minutes out.....10 minutes in
get the idea?

I am a wimp and proud of it.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...] 
Sent:	Monday, January 28, 2002 2:50 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party

--- In ASKC@y..., "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@e...> wrote:
> It depends on how cold it is if I will be there. 

Wimp.....[grin]
Who cares how cold it is, if there are heated facilities?
5 minutes out.....10 minutes in
5 minutes out.....10 minutes in
get the idea?






 

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I'll be there if it's clear.

Jim
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From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party


> If you're planning to attend the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party on
> February 16, please let me know. The star party will be held at
> Powell Observatory. I talked it over with Dave Hudgins, and we
> decided on Powell because it's easy for people to find and has heated
> facilities. :-)
>
> Fiske
>
> PS: If you're willing to bring hot chocolate or other goodies, please
> let me know that too. The Miles household chef (aka the CFO) will be
> cooking something up.
>
> PSS: Since I'm not a keyholder, I'll need help from someone who is to
> make sure the observatory is open, etc.
>
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Larry and I have started getting the parts together and we will be taking
pics as two chairs come are built.

Tom
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Binocular chair


> Larry/Tom:
>
> This sounds like a great article for the Cosmic Messenger!  :-)
> Pictures of the project and a short story about the whole thing would
> be of interest to a lot of members.
>
> I would also like to know how to get a copy of the plans or view
> them. A binocular chair is high on my list of astronomy to-do
> projects. (Unfortuately, this list has a lower priority than the
> Miles family CFO's home remodeling to-do list. :-) )
>
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I wonder if anyone can help us with a lost article. 

Last September at the ASKC picnic, we left in haste and our baked-bean
filled crock-pot pull-out was left behind.  I know that the affair had
catering assistance, but I wonder if anyone ever saw the big, blue ceramic
crock-pot insert that was left behind, or would know if it's still lingering
in a heap of lost & found.

I appreciate any clues to the mystery.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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  >It seems like for the last couple of years we've ended up with scheduling conflicts on >the Messier Marathon night. 

   I missed the November and January board meetings. Is there something someone should tell me? Has the Marathon night been chosen?

  In case it hasn't been picked, I just blocked out March 16 for the marathon. That is the third Saturday in March 3 days past new moon.

  If it's set for a different night, it might be a good idea for someone to let me know.

  DYoung


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To avoid future conflicts with ASKC event and on site star parties, how about coming up with a list of dates I should block out. I try to avoid star parties on meeting nights but still schedule them if someone is adamant.

Any other nights that are out of bounds?


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Jen Amy is in Ca right now but I will ask her when she gets back. It may
still be at the observatory in the kitchen. shelley

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From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:34 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Old Picnic question


I wonder if anyone can help us with a lost article.

Last September at the ASKC picnic, we left in haste and our baked-bean
filled crock-pot pull-out was left behind.  I know that the affair had
catering assistance, but I wonder if anyone ever saw the big, blue ceramic
crock-pot insert that was left behind, or would know if it's still lingering
in a heap of lost & found.

I appreciate any clues to the mystery.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
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Can anyone tell me the rules for the new parking garage at UMKC? Are we
allowed to use it on general meeting nights?or board meeting nights? Shelley

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  To: Askc 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:13 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Parking at UMKC


  Can anyone tell me the rules for the new parking garage at UMKC? Are we
  allowed to use it on general meeting nights?or board meeting nights? Shelley

  No. It's for students only. If you park there UMKC can ticket you and then withhold your grades if you don't pay them.




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I took a look at the parking garage sign after Saturday's GM.

If I read it right, you can park there on general meeting nights,
but not on board meeting nights.  It's the same hours as KUMC's other
student/staff parking.

Dennis

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Young wrote:

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>  To: Askc 
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>  Subject: [ASKC] Parking at UMKC
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>  allowed to use it on general meeting nights?or board meeting nights? Shelley
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David,
 I don't know that any specific date has been designated for the Messier Marathon...so let's make it March 16!
Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: FiskeM3@... 
  Cc: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:00 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: February 16 at Powell




    >It seems like for the last couple of years we've ended up with scheduling conflicts on >the Messier Marathon night. 

     I missed the November and January board meetings. Is there something someone should tell me? Has the Marathon night been chosen?

    In case it hasn't been picked, I just blocked out March 16 for the marathon. That is the third Saturday in March 3 days past new moon.

    If it's set for a different night, it might be a good idea for someone to let me know.

    DYoung


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Regarding parking at UMKC.... I think we are safe on Saturday nights. But I would not park in there on Thursday Board nights while school is in session..... that might land you a ticket to deal with.

Dave
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  To: Askc 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:13 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Parking at UMKC


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The 2002 Messier Marathon is scheduled for March 15 and 16, Friday and Saturday nights.

Attend one, or both nights.  You can only count what you observe on a single night though.

Hopefully it won't rain this year or be cloudy.

Scott

what is polar bear star party?

What happens that night?

Please fill me as I would like to possibly attend.

Dr.Eric Flescher

Hi, Eric.   Let me fill you in.  What happens that night is that anyone who
wants to do some observing IN THE EXTREMELY FRIGID COLD with other ASKCr's
can come down to Powell Observatory that night and freeze their tushes
together, just like real polar bears.  Or, you go in the observatory.  Drink
hot chocolate.  Pop some corn.  Hang out.  Have some fun....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:33 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] what is polar bear star party?

what is polar bear star party?

What happens that night?

Please fill me as I would like to possibly attend.

Dr.Eric Flescher




 

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...or   you can can put on your wool thick socks, thermo hiking boots, long underwear, a tee shirt or 2, long sleeve sweatshirt, hooded sweatshirt, mittens with open fingers, or heavy gloves, and stocking cap.  Then you can sit outside all night and enjoy the stars.  Bring along a lawn chair and you can do some meteor watching and earn a couple hours towards your Meteor Award.  Bring a pair of binoculars and work on the AstroQuest or some of the binocular awards for the Astronomical League.

Bring some snacks and some hot cocoa, coffee, or tea for the evening.

Lots to do and see.

If any luck, the low temperature for the night might be fairly mild.



>>> JBeucher@emjmetals.com 01/29/02 01:30PM >>>
Hi, Eric.   Let me fill you in.  What happens that night is that anyone who
wants to do some observing IN THE EXTREMELY FRIGID COLD with other ASKCr's
can come down to Powell Observatory that night and freeze their tushes
together, just like real polar bears.  Or, you go in the observatory.  Drink
hot chocolate.  Pop some corn.  Hang out.  Have some fun....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:33 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject:	[ASKC] what is polar bear star party?

what is polar bear star party?

What happens that night?

Please fill me as I would like to possibly attend.

Dr.Eric Flescher




 

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  ...or   you can can put on your wool thick socks, thermo hiking boots, long underwear, a tee shirt or 2, long sleeve sweatshirt, hooded sweatshirt, mittens with open fingers, or heavy gloves, and stocking cap.  

  Or lay the seat back in the convertible :-)


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Jackie:

Do we have to pour water on our tushes to get them to freeze together?
That part was unclear.  Does this involve a triple dog dare?

JUST FOR LAUGHS,

Joe

and you acuse me of giving you a bad reputation...GEEEEEEEEZE!!!!
shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?


Jackie:

Do we have to pour water on our tushes to get them to freeze together?
That part was unclear.  Does this involve a triple dog dare?

JUST FOR LAUGHS,

Joe





 

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--- In ASKC@y..., Joe Wright <bsa87joe@s...> wrote:
> Jackie:
> 
> Do we have to pour water on our tushes to get them to freeze 
together?
> That part was unclear.  Does this involve a triple dog dare?

Hey we could triple dog dare to have someone put their tongue on the 
chain link fence and see if it freezes there.... [grin]

sc285 wrote:
"Hey we could triple dog dare to have someone put their tongue on the chain
link fence and see if it freezes there.... [grin]"




Nah.  Put their tongue on a metal scope tube.

You have to observe outside in a speedo 8^). For me that would look like a
Bartlett Pear with a rubber band around it.

Keep looking up,

Jim
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?


> what is polar bear star party?
>
> What happens that night?
>
> Please fill me as I would like to possibly attend.
>
> Dr.Eric Flescher
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Jim:

What's this I hear about a 20-inch StarMaster?

Fiske

Sure, Joe!   Come on down to EMJ where I am already at work (at 7 AM), and
we can stand outside, back to back.  We surely would freeze together!  Why
wait for February?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Shelley Granger [mailto:grangerk@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:21 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?

and you acuse me of giving you a bad reputation...GEEEEEEEEZE!!!!
shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?


Jackie:

Do we have to pour water on our tushes to get them to freeze together?
That part was unclear.  Does this involve a triple dog dare?

JUST FOR LAUGHS,

Joe





 

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Ah, Jim... why did you have to say that?  Now I will always have this image
of you - with the "observe" hat on top, of course!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	Jim Ketchum [mailto:suenjim@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:19 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?

You have to observe outside in a speedo 8^). For me that would look like a
Bartlett Pear with a rubber band around it.

Keep looking up,

Jim
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Subject: [ASKC] what is polar bear star party?


> what is polar bear star party?
>
> What happens that night?
>
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>
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Is it a requirement to freeze your tush off when coming to the Polar party?
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

  Is it a requirement to freeze your tush off when coming to the Polar party?
  Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)


  Nah, just a common result of being crazy enough to observe in mid-winter. I will not feel the least bit ashamed to do binocular observing with the heater running in the convertible :-)



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Yeah Dave but all that rising heat will cause terrible images.

Gary

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To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] is it a requirement?




  Is it a requirement to freeze your tush off when coming to the Polar
party?
  Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)


  Nah, just a common result of being crazy enough to observe in mid-winter.
I will not feel the least bit ashamed to do binocular observing with the
heater running in the convertible :-)



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  Yeah Dave but all that rising heat will cause terrible images.

  It's not as big an issue with binocular observing and depending on whether or not I can get Marcia to go with me there might not be all that much observing anyway!


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Hi Fiske:

Why do you think the weather is the worst of the Winter? Picked up a new (to
me) 20" Starmaster on Monday. The new scope curse is in effect. Apologies to
all my observing friends out there. I take full responsibility. The scope is
only six months old and looks like it just rolled off the assembly line at
Starmaster Central. Looking forward to chase some photons.

Keep looking up,

Jim
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From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: what is polar bear star party?


> Jim:
>
> What's this I hear about a 20-inch StarMaster?
>
> Fiske
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This is a star party alert.

I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star parties.

Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10                  
Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7


We will need 6-10 people with observing instruments for each of these.


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Yeah Fiske, we have another 20" Starmaster in the club.  That puts the number at 4 of us, right?

At least it's a Full Moon.  The curse had better be lifted in 2 weeks.

>>> suenjim@... 01/30/02 10:56AM >>>
Hi Fiske:

Why do you think the weather is the worst of the Winter? Picked up a new (to
me) 20" Starmaster on Monday. The new scope curse is in effect. Apologies to
all my observing friends out there. I take full responsibility. The scope is
only six months old and looks like it just rolled off the assembly line at
Starmaster Central. Looking forward to chase some photons.

Keep looking up,

Jim
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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: what is polar bear star party?


> Jim:
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No..... but I usually do, no matter how many layers I put on.   I bundle up
so much, I can't even bend my arms.  Sigh.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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Sent:	Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:54 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] is it a requirement?

Is it a requirement to freeze your tush off when coming to the Polar party?
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Pleasington????    You don't mean the Pleasanton thats 30 miles south of Louisburg, do you?

>>> dyoung8@... 01/30/02 11:08AM >>>
This is a star party alert.

I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star parties.

Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10                  
Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7


We will need 6-10 people with observing instruments for each of these.


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Put me down for Lexington.

Jim
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: [ASKC] STAR PARITES


> This is a star party alert.
>
> I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star
parties.
>
> Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
> Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10
> Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7
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David - Put me down for the Lexington one again.  I really enjoyed doing
that one.  For any of you that are history buffs, you can go early and tour
the Battlefield site, and other places around the town.  Then, have dinner,
and go observing!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:09 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] STAR PARITES

This is a star party alert.

I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star
parties.

Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10

Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7


We will need 6-10 people with observing instruments for each of these.


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I usually end up looking like the Michelin Man.

Jim
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Subject: RE: [ASKC] is it a requirement?


> No..... but I usually do, no matter how many layers I put on.   I bundle
up
> so much, I can't even bend my arms.  Sigh.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:54 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] is it a requirement?
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> Is it a requirement to freeze your tush off when coming to the Polar
party?
> Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
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  Pleasington????    You don't mean the Pleasanton thats 30 miles south of Louisburg, do you?

  Yeah, what you said.


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You all say I'm crazy for camping in the winter with the Scouts.  But we
build fires to keep warm.  Sometimes biggem fires.

Joe

I know this was covered befor, I lost the links that were posted.
I need to find the Lat. & Long. of various places in the us. Would 
somebody repost the links that were posted in earlier messages.

                                                 Gil Machin

Put us down for Lexington

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Subject: Re: [ASKC] STAR PARITES
Date: Wed, Jan 30, 2002, 5:16 PM


Put me down for Lexington.

Jim
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: [ASKC] STAR PARITES


> This is a star party alert.
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> I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star
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> Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
> Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10
> Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7
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See if any of these work out for you Gil.

http://geocode.com/eagle.html

http://www.topozone.com/

http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse

http://www.juggling.org/bin/un.cgi/map-find

Gary

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From: stargezer2000 [mailto:gmachin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:52 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] lat & long


I know this was covered befor, I lost the links that were posted.
I need to find the Lat. & Long. of various places in the us. Would 
somebody repost the links that were posted in earlier messages.

                                                 Gil Machin






 

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I have a star party booked for June 15 at Camp Timberlake for 150 girl scouts. We need 5 or 6 people.

We need 5 or 6 people for Mine Creek Battlefield. We need 2 more for Battle of Lexington.


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Thanks Gary, The last one worked just fine, just what I wanted.
                                                                    Gil
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--- In ASKC@y..., "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> Yeah Fiske, we have another 20" Starmaster in the club.  That puts 
the number at 4 of us, right?

Still planning to run that article, by the way...  :-)

Fiske


PS: Wonder how many Tele Vue 101s are owned by club members -- I know 
of two. (Chuck and myself.)

--- In ASKC@y..., "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@e...> wrote:
> No..... but I usually do, no matter how many layers I put on.   I 
bundle up so much, I can't even bend my arms.  Sigh.
> 
Jackie:

The cold weather clothing technique discussed in the Polar Bear 
article in February's Cosmic Messenger really does work. (Note the 
classic photo of Rob and me!)  :-)

Actually, Rob was wearing the high-tech ski-suit and -100 degree 
boots and asked to borrow my coat because he was still cold. 
Meanwhile, I was toasty warm (well, at least warm) with no coat at 
all -- just the Walmart getup. The tricks are a) start off with the 
long underwear (a must!), b)use multiple layers evenly covering 
yourself from the neck down (it does no good to bundle lots of stuff 
on your upper body without doing the same for your lower body), c) 
overlap layers so that NO seams are exposed, and d) cover the whole 
ensemble with a light nylon shell.

Fiske 

David - Put me down for Camp Timberlake.  I could do a program, too, if they
want it...  That weekend is in between the Regional Convention for
Mid-States, and another convention in Topeka.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:49 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] star party

I have a star party booked for June 15 at Camp Timberlake for 150 girl
scouts. We need 5 or 6 people.

We need 5 or 6 people for Mine Creek Battlefield. We need 2 more for Battle
of Lexington.


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David, Joe and Gary -

It is not looking like we will be moving furniture from Black & Veatch this
weekend.  Due to the storm and all, everything has been pushed back.  I will
let you know what develops!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:49 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] star party

I have a star party booked for June 15 at Camp Timberlake for 150 girl
scouts. We need 5 or 6 people.

We need 5 or 6 people for Mine Creek Battlefield. We need 2 more for Battle
of Lexington.


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Yes, and I would look like the Pillsbury Dough Girl.   But I will take your
suggestions under consideration.  I will read the article when I get it, and
run to Walmart!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	fiskem3 [mailto:FiskeM3@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:26 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Re: is it a requirement?

--- In ASKC@y..., "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@e...> wrote:
> No..... but I usually do, no matter how many layers I put on.   I 
bundle up so much, I can't even bend my arms.  Sigh.
> 
Jackie:

The cold weather clothing technique discussed in the Polar Bear 
article in February's Cosmic Messenger really does work. (Note the 
classic photo of Rob and me!)  :-)

Actually, Rob was wearing the high-tech ski-suit and -100 degree 
boots and asked to borrow my coat because he was still cold. 
Meanwhile, I was toasty warm (well, at least warm) with no coat at 
all -- just the Walmart getup. The tricks are a) start off with the 
long underwear (a must!), b)use multiple layers evenly covering 
yourself from the neck down (it does no good to bundle lots of stuff 
on your upper body without doing the same for your lower body), c) 
overlap layers so that NO seams are exposed, and d) cover the whole 
ensemble with a light nylon shell.

Fiske 





 

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From David Young:

"The guy just sent me another e-mail asking if they could come down 
during the day and look for sunspots. It seems their schedule isn't 
as flexible as he thought. Sunset is at about 6:00. What would you 
think about having them down but telling them they must be out by 
6:00 or 6:30? They could see sunspots and the moon and maybe even 
take a look at Jupiter or a star in the daytime. I hate to pass up a 
paying gig."

David and I have been discussing a group of boyscouts who want to 
visit Powell Observatory on February 16 -- the day reserved for the 
Polar Bear party. Initially, he asked if they would come on the 15th 
instead, but apparently that won't suit their schedule. The next 
thought was as listed above.

I'd like to throw this open for group discussion. 

The usual answer, I suppose, is that the club always needs the money. 
And it's an educational thing for boyscouts, too. (Can you really say 
no to boyscouts?)

However, as an avid observer who doesn't get the opportunity to visit 
darker sites that frequently, I find it frustrating to have the 
general public at what are intended to be private club functions. And 
it seems like this happens a lot. 

What David suggests seems reasonable, but it's not too hard to 
imagine that they won't actually leave at 6:00 or 6:30 pm, and it 
wouldn't do for anyone in the club to insist on their departure -- 
talk about bad PR! In addition to which, star party participants will 
be bringing hot chocolate, brownies, etc. into the observatory while 
the scouts are still there. (Probably hungry by this time?)

After thinking it over, I guess I would be inclined to say okay if 
they can be out by 5:00 pm. That would reduce the overlap between 
groups. And, I think the psychology of leaving while it is still 
daylight is a lot better than leaving after dark. After an afternoon 
spent looking at sun spots, etc., most of the scouts ought to be 
ready for dinner about that time anyway.

Thoughts and opinions?

Fiske

I wouldn't have any problem with them staying until... 6:30 if they wanted
to see Jupiter and Saturn.  But have a definite cut-off time for them...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	fiskem3 [mailto:FiskeM3@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:49 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Polar Bear Conflict -- A Question

From David Young:

"The guy just sent me another e-mail asking if they could come down 
during the day and look for sunspots. It seems their schedule isn't 
as flexible as he thought. Sunset is at about 6:00. What would you 
think about having them down but telling them they must be out by 
6:00 or 6:30? They could see sunspots and the moon and maybe even 
take a look at Jupiter or a star in the daytime. I hate to pass up a 
paying gig."

David and I have been discussing a group of boyscouts who want to 
visit Powell Observatory on February 16 -- the day reserved for the 
Polar Bear party. Initially, he asked if they would come on the 15th 
instead, but apparently that won't suit their schedule. The next 
thought was as listed above.

I'd like to throw this open for group discussion. 

The usual answer, I suppose, is that the club always needs the money. 
And it's an educational thing for boyscouts, too. (Can you really say 
no to boyscouts?)

However, as an avid observer who doesn't get the opportunity to visit 
darker sites that frequently, I find it frustrating to have the 
general public at what are intended to be private club functions. And 
it seems like this happens a lot. 

What David suggests seems reasonable, but it's not too hard to 
imagine that they won't actually leave at 6:00 or 6:30 pm, and it 
wouldn't do for anyone in the club to insist on their departure -- 
talk about bad PR! In addition to which, star party participants will 
be bringing hot chocolate, brownies, etc. into the observatory while 
the scouts are still there. (Probably hungry by this time?)

After thinking it over, I guess I would be inclined to say okay if 
they can be out by 5:00 pm. That would reduce the overlap between 
groups. And, I think the psychology of leaving while it is still 
daylight is a lot better than leaving after dark. After an afternoon 
spent looking at sun spots, etc., most of the scouts ought to be 
ready for dinner about that time anyway.

Thoughts and opinions?

Fiske





 

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Hi all. hope everyone is doing ok out there, We have had no power since 3:00
yesterday. getting a little chilly in here. Thank god we have a generator.
We can run a few things at a time on it.
I guess when Jim curses us it gets taken very seriously lol That's what
happens when your a master observer. Hopefully it will clear up tonight and
I plan on taking advantage of the x-tra dark skies out here. Everyone be
careful and enjoy the beauty of all this ice :) Shelley

If anyone out there needs a place to stay, I have power at my house, and a
spare bedroom.  I'd be pleased to have you come and get warm.  Call me here
at work: (816) 483-4140, and just ask for Jackie.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Shelley Granger [mailto:grangerk@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:02 AM
To:	Askc
Subject:	[ASKC] surviving the storm

Hi all. hope everyone is doing ok out there, We have had no power since 3:00
yesterday. getting a little chilly in here. Thank god we have a generator.
We can run a few things at a time on it.
I guess when Jim curses us it gets taken very seriously lol That's what
happens when your a master observer. Hopefully it will clear up tonight and
I plan on taking advantage of the x-tra dark skies out here. Everyone be
careful and enjoy the beauty of all this ice :) Shelley





 

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I need people to help with a star party on April 19, 2002 in Kansas City at 
the Schlagel Environmental Library North of the woodlands. Great facility. 
Want to invite as many school kids from Piper, KC-KS and other areas to 
observe the sky.
Center overlooks a nice lake and great view.
My students and I  will present our telescope work with  powerpoint 
presentation. We need other presenters too. Great place for presenting. 
We can also sell concessions and there is bbq 

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

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Message: 8
   Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:08:30 -0600
   From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: STAR PARITES

This is a star party alert.

I have the following dates booked for income producing off site star parties.

Mine Creek Battlefield in Pleasington, Kansas     May 11
Battle of Lexington in Lexington, MO                   August 10              
    
Mine Creek Battlefield again                                September 7


We will need 6-10 people with observing instruments for each of these.


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I've been powerless at home since 5PM yesterday too.  The internet works here at work though.

The skies may be xtra dark, but for me no power = no astronomy.  

I have heard stories that in the distant past (before LX200s and "TheSky" software) the ancients had invented ways to point a telescope WITHOUT A COMPUTER!  Has anyone ever heard of this?  Is this actually possible?  

I suspect it is only a rumor.

-Dave


"Shelley Granger" <grangerk@...> wrote:

>Hi all. hope everyone is doing ok out there, We have had no power since 3:00
>yesterday. getting a little chilly in here. Thank god we have a generator.
>We can run a few things at a time on it.
>I guess when Jim curses us it gets taken very seriously lol That's what
>happens when your a master observer. Hopefully it will clear up tonight and
>I plan on taking advantage of the x-tra dark skies out here. Everyone be
>careful and enjoy the beauty of all this ice :) Shelley
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David, yep I think Fiske has a good point.We need to have them out before dark...maybe 3-5PM? Tour of the observatory, look at sun and moon. Are we telling people about the $50 minimum yet? Or what did we decide?  Dave H. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fiskem3 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:49 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Conflict -- A Question


  From David Young:

  "The guy just sent me another e-mail asking if they could come down 
  during the day and look for sunspots. It seems their schedule isn't 
  as flexible as he thought. Sunset is at about 6:00. What would you 
  think about having them down but telling them they must be out by 
  6:00 or 6:30? They could see sunspots and the moon and maybe even 
  take a look at Jupiter or a star in the daytime. I hate to pass up a 
  paying gig."

  David and I have been discussing a group of boyscouts who want to 
  visit Powell Observatory on February 16 -- the day reserved for the 
  Polar Bear party. Initially, he asked if they would come on the 15th 
  instead, but apparently that won't suit their schedule. The next 
  thought was as listed above.

  I'd like to throw this open for group discussion. 

  The usual answer, I suppose, is that the club always needs the money. 
  And it's an educational thing for boyscouts, too. (Can you really say 
  no to boyscouts?)

  However, as an avid observer who doesn't get the opportunity to visit 
  darker sites that frequently, I find it frustrating to have the 
  general public at what are intended to be private club functions. And 
  it seems like this happens a lot. 

  What David suggests seems reasonable, but it's not too hard to 
  imagine that they won't actually leave at 6:00 or 6:30 pm, and it 
  wouldn't do for anyone in the club to insist on their departure -- 
  talk about bad PR! In addition to which, star party participants will 
  be bringing hot chocolate, brownies, etc. into the observatory while 
  the scouts are still there. (Probably hungry by this time?)

  After thinking it over, I guess I would be inclined to say okay if 
  they can be out by 5:00 pm. That would reduce the overlap between 
  groups. And, I think the psychology of leaving while it is still 
  daylight is a lot better than leaving after dark. After an afternoon 
  spent looking at sun spots, etc., most of the scouts ought to be 
  ready for dinner about that time anyway.

  Thoughts and opinions?

  Fiske


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What $50 minimum?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:59 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Polar Bear Conflict -- A Question

David, yep I think Fiske has a good point.We need to have them out before
dark...maybe 3-5PM? Tour of the observatory, look at sun and moon. Are we
telling people about the $50 minimum yet? Or what did we decide?  Dave H. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fiskem3 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:49 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Conflict -- A Question


  From David Young:

  "The guy just sent me another e-mail asking if they could come down 
  during the day and look for sunspots. It seems their schedule isn't 
  as flexible as he thought. Sunset is at about 6:00. What would you 
  think about having them down but telling them they must be out by 
  6:00 or 6:30? They could see sunspots and the moon and maybe even 
  take a look at Jupiter or a star in the daytime. I hate to pass up a 
  paying gig."

  David and I have been discussing a group of boyscouts who want to 
  visit Powell Observatory on February 16 -- the day reserved for the 
  Polar Bear party. Initially, he asked if they would come on the 15th 
  instead, but apparently that won't suit their schedule. The next 
  thought was as listed above.

  I'd like to throw this open for group discussion. 

  The usual answer, I suppose, is that the club always needs the money. 
  And it's an educational thing for boyscouts, too. (Can you really say 
  no to boyscouts?)

  However, as an avid observer who doesn't get the opportunity to visit 
  darker sites that frequently, I find it frustrating to have the 
  general public at what are intended to be private club functions. And 
  it seems like this happens a lot. 

  What David suggests seems reasonable, but it's not too hard to 
  imagine that they won't actually leave at 6:00 or 6:30 pm, and it 
  wouldn't do for anyone in the club to insist on their departure -- 
  talk about bad PR! In addition to which, star party participants will 
  be bringing hot chocolate, brownies, etc. into the observatory while 
  the scouts are still there. (Probably hungry by this time?)

  After thinking it over, I guess I would be inclined to say okay if 
  they can be out by 5:00 pm. That would reduce the overlap between 
  groups. And, I think the psychology of leaving while it is still 
  daylight is a lot better than leaving after dark. After an afternoon 
  spent looking at sun spots, etc., most of the scouts ought to be 
  ready for dinner about that time anyway.

  Thoughts and opinions?

  Fiske


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Dave,

A dc battery and inverter is a handy thing.  I have AC power.  It was
like a command post here this morning.  When you have a trailer full of
scout gear, it comes in handy.  My sister is SE of Odessa is with out
phone and power.  Took her my generator.  Delivered propane, mantels,
coffee pots (perk kind), stoves and other stuff  to family members on
both sides.


I heard a saying somewhere.

Be Prepared.

Joe

If you want a generator.  Cummins on 23rd 291 (Independence) still has
some.  Going for $500.

FYI

Joe

fyi 
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

from 

==================================================================
This Is SKY & TELESCOPE's AstroAlert for Comets
==================================================================


                 NEW COMET IN CETUS


A 9th-magnitude comet has just been found in the constellation
Cetus, low in the western evening sky. It was spotted almost
simultaneously on February 1st by Kaoru Ikeya of Shizuoka 
prefecture, Japan, and by Daqing Zhang in Henan province, 
China. Both observers described it as a small glow about 
2' or 3' across, with no mention of a tail. Ikeya was using 
a 25-cm (10-inch) reflector, Zhang a 20-cm.

The Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams announced the
find today on IAU Circular 7812. For further details and 
information on how to subscribe to that service, visit 
http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/cbat.html 

No orbit has yet been calculated for this comet, so its
future motion is anybody's guess. But Ikeya estimated it to
be moving northeastward at about 10 arcminutes per hour.
Shortly before 10h Universal Time on February 1st, he found
its position to be right ascension 0h 08.9m, declination
-17d 42' (equinox 2000.0).

I heard a saying somewhere.

Be Prepared.

Yeah, what you said. The neighbors have been lusting after my generator. It's safe from pilferers since it's welded to the truck:-)


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Thanks but I have 2 in use at the moment. Dad still doesn't power but he has my portable. My power came on last night but I still have a pretty full schedule on my truck generator route :-) Dick Trentman is doing the same thing, making the rounds of people who don't have power.


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  From: KCStarguy@... 
  To: dyoung8@... ; ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:53 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] I need


  I need people to help with a star party on April 19, 2002 in Kansas City at 
  the Schlagel Environmental Library North of the woodlands. Great facility. 


  What time




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  I've been powerless at home since 5PM yesterday too.  The internet works here at work though.

  Bummer Dave. I noticed it was real dark around Powell last night too. I have an inverter you can hook up to a car battery. You could then power your ups and get clean power for your computer and telescope stuff. I've been too busy to mess with it myself but if you are suffering from photon deprivation you are welcome to use it.


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questions: contact Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) or  "David Young" 
<dyoung8@...

Where: Schlagle Environmental Library, Kansas City, KS off of Leavenworth 
Road (North-East of the Woodlands) directions to be written up and supplied 
near future

Contact person at Library/Center: Ann Miller (amiller@...)

Setting: This new library facility overlooks a lake and has a good viewing 
area for telescopes. Lots of wildlife in the lake (ducks, geese etc). Good 
for bird watching. Facility can accomodate hundreds for worskhops, seminars 
and presentation. There even is grill if we want to host some concessions.

Date: April 19, 2002
sky conditions: no moon 
Time starts: 6 pm to ? 
Who is invited: Anyone- adults to children. 
Attempt will be made to invite as many students from Piper, Kansas City 
schools, Blue Valley, Olathe and other nearby districts.
Fees: We will can collect $2 per person for donations for club. We will offer 
$1 per person for groups of 10 and above. 

Agenda: 
6-8pm 
(1) Presentations before telescope use
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) and students on Harvard telescope use 
and experiments
(2) We could use one or more presenters on selected topics of your choice 
that deal with telescopes, stars, constellations. Please contact David Young 
or Eric Flescher
(3) could have bird watching session
8- ? Telescope viewing of nebulas, galaxies- pointing out Spring 
constellations, stars and the planets. Telescopes needed.


***
   Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 07:34:09 -0600
   From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: Re: I need

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KCStarguy@... 
  To: dyoung8@... ; ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:53 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] I need


  I need people to help with a star party on April 19, 2002 in Kansas City at 
  the Schlagel Environmental Library North of the woodlands. Great facility. 


  What time

David,

Thanks, but I do actually have a couple of sources of 120V AC via a spare car battery and inverter, and an "electric generator" with an inverter and charger built in.  I've charged them from work.  They run some lights and a TV anyway.  We're using the fireplace for heat, and surviving.

This primitive living is the pits.

-Dave


"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

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>  I've been powerless at home since 5PM yesterday too.  The internet works here at work though.
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We still have no power either.  A small generator of ours runs two 
electrical lines that we have split into a million pieces for computer here,
refrigerator there... and 3 lights...  but vic did something nice:  Our
furnace is Gas, so he hot-wired the furnace electrical supply onto an outlet
plug we can run by the generator.   now, all we're missing is cable and all
the light switches.
(no, just because the sink works doesn't mean the disposal does. - Doh!)

We should thank all of those kind friends who have asked to host us at their
homes with power.  This is very kind of all of you.

I was just talking to family members in another state.   I told her "it's
like camping with real beds and everything you left at home with you."

We'll have a page in a few hours linked off the front page with pix of the
damage.  That way, if you have relatives elsewhere like we do who should
know just how bad it is here, you can show them something.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
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From: DembinskiD@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [ASKC] surviving the storm
Date: Sat, Feb 2, 2002, 8:03 PM


David,

Thanks, but I do actually have a couple of sources of 120V AC via a spare
car battery and inverter, and an "electric generator" with an inverter and
charger built in.  I've charged them from work.  They run some lights and a
TV anyway.  We're using the fireplace for heat, and surviving.

This primitive living is the pits.

-Dave


"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>
>
>  I've been powerless at home since 5PM yesterday too.  The internet works here
at work though.
>
>  Bummer Dave. I noticed it was real dark around Powell last night too. I have
an inverter you can hook up to a car battery. You could then power your ups
and get clean power for your computer and telescope stuff. I've been too
busy to mess with it myself but if you are suffering from photon deprivation
you are welcome to use it.
>
>
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For anyone using RoadRunner or similar type 'cable' broadband 
connection, and also use an FTP program for uploading files to 
webpages, what type of upload speeds do you get?

The reason I ask, is that I have DSL, which limits upload speed to 
128Kbps because of copper wire phone line. The is still fast for most 
webpage files, but I have a 67 meg file I need to get uploaded into 
my FTP site, and the connection keeps barfing at around 60-65 meg, 
even in passive mode. If RoadRunner or similar 'cable' connection has 
no limits, maybe I can bring the file to your place on a CD and 
upload via your FTP program?

Thanks.

Rob Robinson
ASKC Webmaster
IOTA Webmaster 

I have to type this fast because the darn power just went off again and the UPS is beeping away.

If you are thinking of going to Powell please be aware that we are heating it with space heaters that may reduce the oxygen content inside the building

In other words



Don't go to Powell unless you check with Nick, Dick or David first!


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We have managed to download some digital pictures and some reports onto our
site.  We linked it off the front page, but it's address is:
http://www.icstars.com/IceStorm/

We have some real-film images that haven't been scanned, but those will come
soon.

Since our power was just this minute restored!!!!

Here's what the electrical team said:  This crew is from Minnesota.  They
came in specifically to restore as much power as possible as fast as
possible.  They hit our block and tested and checked everything.  The
biggest problem was that many folks have connected generators to the circuit
and they get feedback on dry lines.  Their goal is not to wire CORRECTLY.
Many dangerous live wires are going to be left on the ground until the KCPL
crews can come back and do the correct installations.

Exactly 5:00pm on Saturday, February 2nd.  - We're wired!  - - Hurrrahhhh!!!

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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No Dave, it's no rumor. I'm old enough to remember having to point the
telescope without a computer. There was a time when we read our star charts
using a small kerosene lantern with a chimney that you never cleaned. That
way only enough light came through the blackened glass to read the charts
without ruining your night vision too badly. Then somebody invented the
battery and it wasn't long before you could buy an electric light to hook up
to the battery. Isn't technology wonderful?

Gary Pittman


The skies may be xtra dark, but for me no power = no astronomy.

I have heard stories that in the distant past (before LX200s and "TheSky"
software) the ancients had invented ways to point a telescope WITHOUT A
COMPUTER!  Has anyone ever heard of this?  Is this actually possible?

I suspect it is only a rumor.

But is the truck welded to the driveway?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:29 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] surviving the storm




I heard a saying somewhere.

Be Prepared.

Yeah, what you said. The neighbors have been lusting after my generator.
It's safe from pilferers since it's welded to the truck:-)


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Gosh, you mean there were people with power? Ours went out at 6:00 Wednesday
night and just came back on about 10:00 Friday night. I know there are still
a lot of folks doing without right now. Looking at the damage as I drive I
feel lucky that we got ours back so soon.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:19 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] surviving the storm


We still have no power either.  A small generator of ours runs two
electrical lines that we have split into a million pieces for computer here,
refrigerator there... and 3 lights...  but vic did something nice:  Our
furnace is Gas, so he hot-wired the furnace electrical supply onto an outlet
plug we can run by the generator.   now, all we're missing is cable and all
the light switches.
(no, just because the sink works doesn't mean the disposal does. - Doh!)

We should thank all of those kind friends who have asked to host us at their
homes with power.  This is very kind of all of you.

I was just talking to family members in another state.   I told her "it's
like camping with real beds and everything you left at home with you."

We'll have a page in a few hours linked off the front page with pix of the
damage.  That way, if you have relatives elsewhere like we do who should
know just how bad it is here, you can show them something.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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www.icstars.com
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From: DembinskiD@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [ASKC] surviving the storm
Date: Sat, Feb 2, 2002, 8:03 PM


David,

Thanks, but I do actually have a couple of sources of 120V AC via a spare
car battery and inverter, and an "electric generator" with an inverter and
charger built in.  I've charged them from work.  They run some lights and a
TV anyway.  We're using the fireplace for heat, and surviving.

This primitive living is the pits.

-Dave


"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>
>
>  I've been powerless at home since 5PM yesterday too.  The internet works
here
at work though.
>
>  Bummer Dave. I noticed it was real dark around Powell last night too. I
have
an inverter you can hook up to a car battery. You could then power your ups
and get clean power for your computer and telescope stuff. I've been too
busy to mess with it myself but if you are suffering from photon deprivation
you are welcome to use it.
>
>
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From your previous report it sounded like you guys were living in the lap of
luxury even without power. A generator? Computers working? Wow! We just sat
around in the dark for two nights waiting for a tree to come crashing
through the roof.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:03 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Ice Storm Report online.


We have managed to download some digital pictures and some reports onto our
site.  We linked it off the front page, but it's address is:
http://www.icstars.com/IceStorm/

We have some real-film images that haven't been scanned, but those will come
soon.

Since our power was just this minute restored!!!!

Here's what the electrical team said:  This crew is from Minnesota.  They
came in specifically to restore as much power as possible as fast as
possible.  They hit our block and tested and checked everything.  The
biggest problem was that many folks have connected generators to the circuit
and they get feedback on dry lines.  Their goal is not to wire CORRECTLY.
Many dangerous live wires are going to be left on the ground until the KCPL
crews can come back and do the correct installations.

Exactly 5:00pm on Saturday, February 2nd.  - We're wired!  - - Hurrrahhhh!!!

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
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Well Folks,

Since I'm crazy enough to live like this one weekend a month and for two
weeks in the summer, I don't know how we were one of the lucky ones with
no power outage.  I am very glad to here from all of you that there was
no serious damage or injuries to bodies, homes or scopes.   Since when
has KC had this dark of night skies?


Joe

--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:

> Yeah, what you said. The neighbors have been lusting after my 
generator. It's safe from pilferers since it's welded to the truck:-)


I parked my truck down at the neighbors Friday night, since already 
three vehicles were clogging my 2 driveways. Saturday morning she 
called to inform me to come down and move my truck back up in the 
drive....seems during the night, it managed on it's own, to slide 
on the icy driveway about 8-10 feet closer to the street. 
Another 2-3 feet would have put the rear IN the street. Amazing.

--- In ASKC@y..., Gary Pittman <gary_rp@s...> wrote:

> There was a time when we read our star charts
> using a small kerosene lantern with a chimney that you never 
> cleaned. 

Ah, the good old days. This was after the invention of the equatorial 
mount, right? :-)

We live near Signal Hill in mid-town KC and except for a minor power 
blip that turned of the the home theater system (protected by a good 
surge supressor thank goodness!) we have had no interruption in 
power. A few blocks away, however, we have friends whose power has 
been out since Wednesday with no estimation yet for when it will be 
back on.

Our neighborhood has been fortunate, but even here there are 
individual houses where the power has been knocked out by trees in 
their own yards. These are the folks who are really in a tough spot 
because the crews have to concentrate on the line problems that 
affect the largest number of houses. The onesee-twosee folks are at 
the end of the list for power restoration.

Of course, part of our good fortune comes from the rampage I went on 
against trees in our backyard last summer. We brought in Bee Tree 
(excellent service, incidently) and had them haul out about four tons 
of weed with bark (including a 70 foot hackberry that the Bee Tree 
owner said was ripe for collapse during the next big ice storm. (It 
was also blocking a significant chunk of sky which is what really 
doomed it.)

Our next door neighbors had inquired about having Bee Tree do a spot 
of pruning on the mulberry that overhangs their backyard and house. 
The tree guys said they would do the pruning for $150, specifically 
pointing out a long limb extending almost over their driveway on the 
opposite side of their yard. But apparently, these folk felt that 
$150 was too high a price. Guess which limb is now lying across their 
back yard? Narrowly mised their powerline, though. Thank goodness.

Fiske

Nick didn't come up with the propane heater we were thinking of using.  Instead we will heat the observatory each night with a kerosene torpedo heater. The propane heater would not have required someone to be there but it would have a chance of producing an oxygen deficient atmosphere in a sealed room. The kerosene heater is a little more time consuming but at least we won't kill off any keyholders. I hate the thought of having to step over bodies when I go in.


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I wish we would not use of the propane heater at the observatory. The danger is the carbon monoxide of course. My  wife tells me they have been treating about 20 cases per day of CO poisoning at Research Hospital from people using such heaters in unventilated spaces. That's my 2centsanyway. 

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:10 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Powell


  Nick didn't come up with the propane heater we were thinking of using.  Instead we will heat the observatory each night with a kerosene torpedo heater. The propane heater would not have required someone to be there but it would have a chance of producing an oxygen deficient atmosphere in a sealed room. The kerosene heater is a little more time consuming but at least we won't kill off any keyholders. I hate the thought of having to step over bodies when I go in.


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Both kerosene and propane heaters produce carbon monoxide, and are dangerous in unventilated spaces....like observatory class rooms. 

Dave H.
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:10 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Powell


  Nick didn't come up with the propane heater we were thinking of using.  Instead we will heat the observatory each night with a kerosene torpedo heater. The propane heater would not have required someone to be there but it would have a chance of producing an oxygen deficient atmosphere in a sealed room. The kerosene heater is a little more time consuming but at least we won't kill off any keyholders. I hate the thought of having to step over bodies when I go in.


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It,s Sunday night ain,t got no power...
Lost everything when a nabors tree branch striped wires from the pole.
phone was fixed thur morning. using laptop and the free MSN that was 
part of package power just came on to the houses on both sides our 
lines are still down. Getting by with inverters and batterys and 
small florcent bubls for light Gas stove so we can cook. a kerosene
heater that is keeping ihe house aroubd 60. This is getting very old.
Will be getting rid of all of the soft mushy stuff left in the frige
tomarow. There is no est on geting power back. We might have to leave
for the Winter Star Party before power is restored.

                                            Gil & Kathy Machin  

 
 Fiske
don'tforget the Rennasance,same scope just a different color.       
                                         
Larry Goode
----- Original Message -----
From: fiskem3
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:31 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: what is polar bear star party?
 
--- In ASKC@y..., "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> Yeah Fiske, we have another 20" Starmaster in the club.  That puts
the number at 4 of us, right?

Still planning to run that article, by the way...  :-)

Fiske


PS: Wonder how many Tele Vue 101s are owned by club members -- I know
of two. (Chuck and myself.)






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As of 11:00 pm, Sunday night, the ASKC now has an official online 
store! Access is through the front page of the ASKC website:
http://www.askconline.org

So far we have the ASKC Light, Mug, Pen and Planispheres. In the 
coming weeks, with some coordinating with Joe and Rita, we will have 
some of the soft goods on line. This may also be good exposure for 
possibly retailing out the new ASKC video! 

The shopping pages include "add to shopping cart" buttons, "view 
shopping cart" and "checkout". At present time we are going to accept 
checks, money orders, and PayPal (which was set up months ago). 

Methods of payment and recieving merchandise are spelled out on the 
entry page.

This has been hidden on the site for about a week now, and I have had 
numerous people doing beta testing on it, to make sure that it worked 
with the numerous browers. At this point, it seems to work fine with 
everything above a 4+ version of both Netscape and MSIE. If you have 
problems using the shopping pages you need to email me, and let me 
know:

1) what specific problem you are encountering
2) what type of operating system you are using (win95/98/ME/2000/XP).
3) what type of browser and what version you are using.

The scripting for the pages does use Java applets, so you will need 
to have that enabled in your brower to use.

The store is probably NOT going to make the ASKC rich, but it will be 
another source to increase the sales for the marketing department. 
There are many people that view these pages, and some of these items 
may just strike their fancy.....time will tell!

Enjoy!

Rob Robinson
ASKC webmaster
webmaster@... 

  It,s Sunday night ain,t got no power...

  Do keep in mind I have a generator. I've been warming Powell up every night to keep the bathroom and kitchen plumbing from freezing and breaking. I could pay you guys a visit this evening and warm the joint up to 75 or so. It's a 120/240 volt with 6500 watt output so we could run most of the house. The generator is welded to the truck so you would have to put up with me for a while.


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For any of you without power. I have a 4000 Watt portable generator that just became available (they got power back).

If you would like to borrow it, give me a call.

David Young
913-631-8413


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Thanks Rob for all your hard work getting this running.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 11:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Store Now On-Line


As of 11:00 pm, Sunday night, the ASKC now has an official online 
store! Access is through the front page of the ASKC website:
http://www.askconline.org

So far we have the ASKC Light, Mug, Pen and Planispheres. In the 
coming weeks, with some coordinating with Joe and Rita, we will have 
some of the soft goods on line. This may also be good exposure for 
possibly retailing out the new ASKC video! 

The shopping pages include "add to shopping cart" buttons, "view 
shopping cart" and "checkout". At present time we are going to accept 
checks, money orders, and PayPal (which was set up months ago). 

Methods of payment and recieving merchandise are spelled out on the 
entry page.

This has been hidden on the site for about a week now, and I have had 
numerous people doing beta testing on it, to make sure that it worked 
with the numerous browers. At this point, it seems to work fine with 
everything above a 4+ version of both Netscape and MSIE. If you have 
problems using the shopping pages you need to email me, and let me 
know:

1) what specific problem you are encountering
2) what type of operating system you are using (win95/98/ME/2000/XP).
3) what type of browser and what version you are using.

The scripting for the pages does use Java applets, so you will need 
to have that enabled in your brower to use.

The store is probably NOT going to make the ASKC rich, but it will be 
another source to increase the sales for the marketing department. 
There are many people that view these pages, and some of these items 
may just strike their fancy.....time will tell!

Enjoy!

Rob Robinson
ASKC webmaster
webmaster@... 










 

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Oh, just got some happy news... Astronomy Magazine is publishing an article of mine. Title is "Catch an Extrasolar Planet from Your Backyard"  - will  be in the May issue. 
(Ummmmm.. maybe Marianne will let me buy a new eyepiece?)

Dave H. 


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Congrats! David. That's really great. Why settle for an eyepiece? <G>

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:21 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] Happy Boy!


Oh, just got some happy news... Astronomy Magazine is publishing an article
of mine. Title is "Catch an Extrasolar Planet from Your Backyard"  - will
be in the May issue.
(Ummmmm.. maybe Marianne will let me buy a new eyepiece?)

Dave H.


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Hello all!  Oh what a lovely sound a furnace makes when it starts 
coming on....finally got power, was out from Wed nite to late Sunday 
evening.  I KNOW that all stargazers must secretly wish for a power 
outage now and then but this was overkill....we must be more detailed 
in our wishes so the star fairy won't grant them in the #@%** 
winter.  You know, like a few hours on a nice balmy September evening 
with the Milky Way overhead and you can go outside without fear of 
being killed by falling ice and trees....

Hope you all are well and those without power (my utmost sympathy) 
get juiced real soon!

Eliz Brown

Hi ya Gil,

Do you guys have power yet? I just signed up for Road Runner's dial up access so I can use my laptop when away from home and when the power and cable lines go down again. You might want to think about signing up yourself. It's free for the first 10 hours and 99 cents per hour over that. They have hundreds of local access numbers you can use accross the US.


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Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.

We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...

How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?


Jen Winter

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
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www.icstars.com/southernskies

Some people may want to get involved with these gamma ray studies . 
More info
http://www.aavso.org/grb/join.stm

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

I am always interested in meeting new people.  So count me in.  Sharon 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Vic & Jen Winter
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:08 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?
 
Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.

We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...

How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?


Jen Winter

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
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Rett does!


> We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
> It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...
> How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?

Me, Me, Me!!!

Jim
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To: <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:18 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?


> Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
> and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
>
> We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
> It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...
>
> How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?
>
>
> Jen Winter
>
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

I would certainly be interested!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:18 AM
To:	askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Who'd be interested?

Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.

We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...

How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?


Jen Winter

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies





 

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--- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the 
> ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> 

Jen:

Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as 
the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend 
your star party?

Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be 
attending the ASKC picnic instead.

I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion, 
but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the 
Astronomical Society of Kansas City. 

Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to 
promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts 
with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC 
members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a 
vibrant and inclusive association.

Fiske Miles

Yo Fiske,

Jen already indicated they had slipped up on the schedule but would try to set things up so we could participate in both events if we wanted to. Before we holler too loudy, maybe we should see what kind of schedule they are going to have. Their star party is a 3 day event and the ASKC picnic is only one evening. I'm a perfect example of the fact that everyone screws up now and then. I make scheduling mistrakes all the time and have to do some pretty fast shuffling around to staff star parties now and then.

"In that case, we'll have to be sure to organize events to accommodate the 
picnic in some way.  While we can't reschedule the Star Party at this time,
we can organize the time and events so that ASKC'ers can attend both."






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This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
"That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


> --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> >
>
> Jen:
>
> Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> your star party?
>
> Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> attending the ASKC picnic instead.
>
> I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> vibrant and inclusive association.
>
> Fiske Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Jim, Miles and all -

Yes, this subject was discussed in depth right here in this egroup about a
month ago.  Vic and Jen realized the conflict, and are scheduling their
star-party events around the ASKC picnic.  I think the consensus was that
anyone could do both events. There was even discussion of having the picnic
out at the new ICSTARS site, since they hope the new Charles Douglas
Observatory would be done by then.  (I don't know how far those discussions
got.  But we did have a club picnic at Powell Gardens a few years back.)

Vic and Jen are extremely loyal, hard-working ASKC members, and would not
deliberately do anything to undermine ASKC efforts.  Any member of the ASKC
who is involved in some other astronomical-related event has every right to
talk about it here.  Vic and Jen are doing their best to work around the
multitude of astronomical events that occur in September-October.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Jim Ketchum [mailto:suenjim@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:36 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd
be interested? )

This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
"That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


> --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> >
>
> Jen:
>
> Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> your star party?
>
> Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> attending the ASKC picnic instead.
>
> I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> vibrant and inclusive association.
>
> Fiske Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>





 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 

Well here's a thought, don't bite my head off its only a suggestion!!!!!!!!!
Amy can not reserve Fox hall in Louisburg at all in Sept. They are totally
booked already. I think Vic and Jen plan on haveing some kind of bunk house
or something built by then. Maybe we could reserve their bunk house for the
picnic. As it stands now we wont have a picnic if it rains :(  As I said
this is only a suggestion and may be totally off the wall. Vic and Jen may
not want that going on or members may think its a horrible and unthinkable
idea. We are eventually going to have to come up with some kind of idea of
what we are going to do. Fox Hall is getting harder and harder to reserve.
Amy tried in Nov to rent it for this year and couldnt get it. We had the
same problem last year. We are either going to have to change the date,
change the location or hope it doesnt rain and if it does stuff everyone
into the observatory calssroom. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Ketchum [mailto:suenjim@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:36 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
"That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


> --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> >
>
> Jen:
>
> Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> your star party?
>
> Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> attending the ASKC picnic instead.
>
> I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> vibrant and inclusive association.
>
> Fiske Miles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>







Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

We are either going to have to change the date,
change the location or hope it doesnt rain and if it does stuff everyone
into the observatory calssroom. Shelley

What's it cost to rent one of those giant stinky tents for a day? We had one a few years ago when we hosted a convention. We could set it up at Powell, Star Gardens, your place....


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /2002 Duty Weeks.doc 
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  Description : 2002 duty weeks 

You can access this file at the URL

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Regards,

dyoung8us <dyoung8@...>
 

I am about to upload the "final" team list.  As always, please make corrections.

I am also uploading the duty week schedule. It is in alphabetical order, just like last time. I have tried to only include keyholders in this schedule. Non-keyholders that want to participate are welcome to contact me or any of the scheduled keyholders to join them for duty during their week.

You may notice that I am not on the list. That's because I like to do these and will very likely do 10 or more nights when keyholders are scheduled but can't do their duty night or find their own substitute. 

Fiske, how about sticking the lists in the next CM?


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I don't know but Joe probably has one in the back of his truck :) You know
you win a prize if you can find an object thats not in Joes truck. Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


We are either going to have to change the date,
change the location or hope it doesnt rain and if it does stuff everyone
into the observatory calssroom. Shelley

What's it cost to rent one of those giant stinky tents for a day? We had one
a few years ago when we hosted a convention. We could set it up at Powell,
Star Gardens, your place....


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Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Vic & Jan:

I would be most interested.  We all should.  Were was astronomy going
before the space program.  What developments have we gleamed and
benefited from because of the space program.  I much rather listen and
learn from an Astronaut than some guy selling a video of the moon!

Joe

Shelley,

Funny you mentioned that.  Well, I use to have one.  The canvas was
getting old and so it had to be put down.  Amy, that's what big fires
are good for.

But, I can put up 200' of canopy and tarps.


Joe

Anyone else hear a boom around 10:30 or so?


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--- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:

> This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates 
> was discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule 
> their star party events so attendees can feel free to attend the
> picnic, too. They are doing their best to schedule an event and NOT 
> conflict with two other star parties around the same time. The 
> Great Plains Star Party and the Okie-Tex parties are during the 
> same time of year.

Jim:

In fact, they both start either that weekend or immediately 
afterwards -- OkieTex is scheduled for September 29 through October 
6, and GreatPlains is scheduled for October 1 through 6.

If I were trying to avoid a conflict with those star parties, I think 
I might have chosen the weekend of September 5-7. Come to think of 
it, September 5 is a new moon.

As far as the potential conflict in dates being "discovered" is 
concerned, I find it hard to believe that members who have been 
involved in this club for more than ten years wouldn't have realized 
there was a conflict up front.

Although I have no doubt that Vic and Jen have made significant 
contributions to the ASKC in the past, what they are doing now is 
attempting to establish their own organization. The September star 
party is being billed as a fund-raiser for the Star Garden 
foundation, for goodness sakes!

I wish them no ill in this endeavor. In fact, had they chosen another 
weekend I would have been pleased to participate and even make a 
contribution toward their project. But whether they intended this or 
not, the scheduling conflict can be viewed (and probably will be 
viewed) by ASKC members as an attempt to co-opt our association to 
further their ends.

I strongly oppose holding the ASKC picnic anywhere other than Powell 
Observatory, despite the difficulties with the Hall in Louisburg.

Fiske

PS: I wonder if Bob Haler has anything scheduled for that weekend? 
Perhaps we should invite him to promote it in our club forums as well.

Here's both of the lists embedded in this message for those of you who have trouble with the e-groups file area. The formatting will be off but should be able to puzzle it out

2002 Teams

Team #1                     Team #5
Carroll Iorg                     Nick Reuss
Randy Thompson             Donald Reuss
Merlin Anderson             David Probert
Greg North                     Dick Trentman
Debbie Harrelson             Nancy Reuss
Elizabeth Brown                 Ron Turley

Team #2                     Team #6
David Young                Kyle Smalley
Roger Gruenke             Richard Fredrick
David Brackey             Steve Tanquary
Bill All                         Tom Martinez
Mark Rump                 Bill Thompson
Marty Peters                 David Hudgins

Team #3                     Team #7
Jackie Beucher             Lario Yerino
Mike Stewart                 Joe Alburty
Rett Alonzi                     Dennis Budd 
Dan Johnson                 Gil Machin
David Neuenschwander     Steve Berg
Diane Sharp                 Eric Flescher

Team #4                     Team #8
Mike Larkin                 Joe Wright
Walt Robinson             Rita Wright
Vic Winter                     Shelley Granger
Bob Mortenson             Mike Cofer 
Gary Martin                  Scott Kranz
Bill Boyle                     Tim Kristl



2002 Duty Weeks

Duty starts Saturday and runs through Friday


Name Starting Ending

Alburty, Joe Feb 9 Feb 15

All, Bill Feb 9 Feb 15

Alonzi, Rett Feb 16 Feb 22

Anderson, Merlin Feb 16 Feb 22

Berg, Steve Feb 23 March 1

Beucher, Jackie Feb 23 March 1

Boyle, Bill March 2 March 8

Brackey, David March 2 March 8

Budd, Dennis March 9 March 15

Flescher, Eric March 9 March 15

Fredrick, Richard March 16 March 22

Grainger, Shelly March 16 March 22

Gruenke, Roger March 23 March 29

Harrelson, Debbie March 23 March 29

Hudgins, David March 30 April 5

Iorg, Carroll March 30 April 5

Johnson, Dan April 6 April 12

Kranz, Scott April 6 April 12

Kristl, Tim April 13 April 20

Larkin, Mike April 13 April 20

Machin, Gil April 21 April 26

Martin, Gary April 21 April 26

Martinez, Tom April 27 May 3

Neuenschwander April 27 May 3

North, Greg May 4 May 10

Pittman, Gary May 4 May 10

Probert, David May 11 May 17

Reuss, Nick May 11 May 17

Robinson, Walt May 18 May 24

Stewert, Mike May 18 May 24

Smalley, Kyle May 25 May 31

Tanguary, Steve May 25 May 31

Thompson, Randy June 1 June 7

Thomson, Bill June 1 June 7

Trentman, Dick June 8 June 14 

Winter, Vic June 8 June 14

Wright, Joe June 15 June 21

Yerino, Lario June 15 June 21

Alburty, Joe June 22 June 28

All, Bill June 22 June 28

Alonzi, Rett June 29 July 5 

Anderson, Merlin June 29 July 5

Berg, Steve July 6 July 12

Beucher, Jackie July 6 July 12

Boyle, Bill July 13 July 19 

Brackey, David July 13 July 19

Budd, Dennis July 20 July 26

Flescher, Eric July 20 July 26

Fredrick, Richard July 27 Aug 2

Grainger, Shelly July 27 Aug 2

Gruenke, Roger Aug 3 Aug 9

Harrelson, Debbie Aug 3 Aug 9

Hudgins, David Aug 10 Aug 16

Iorg, Carroll Aug 10 Aug 16

Johnson, Dan Aug 17 Aug 23

Kranz, Scott Aug 17 Aug 23

Kristl, Tim Aug 24 Aug 30

Larkin, Mike Aug 24 Aug 30

Machin, Gil Aug 31 Sep 6

Martin, Gary Aug 31 Sep 6

Martinez, Tom Sep 7 Sep 13

Neuenschwander Sep 7 Sep 13

North, Greg Sep 14 Sep 20

Pittman, Gary Sep 14 Sep 20

Probert, David Sep 21 Sep 27

Reuss, Nick Sep 21 Sep 27

Robinson, Walt Sep 28 Oct 4 

Stewert, Mike Sep 28 Oct 4

Smalley, Kyle Oct 5 Oct 11

Tanguary, Steve Oct 5 Oct 11

Thompson, Randy Oct 12 Oct 18

Thomson, Bill Oct 12 Oct 18

Trentman, Dick Oct 19 Oct 25

Winter, Vic Oct 19 Oct 25

Wright, Joe Oct 26 Nov 1

Yerino, Lario Oct 26 Nov 1

Alburty, Joe Nov 2 Nov 8

All, Bill Nov 2 Nov 8

Alonzi, Rett Nov 9 Nov 15

Anderson, Merlin Nov 9 Nov 15

Berg, Steve Nov 16 Nov 22

Beucher, Jackie Nov 16 Nov 22

Boyle, Bill Nov 23 Nov 29

Brackey, David Nov 23 Nov 29

Budd, Dennis Nov 30 Dec 6

Flescher, Eric Nov 30 Dec 6

Fredrick, Richard Dec 7 Dec 13

Grainger, Shelly Dec 7 Dec 13




















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Dick, 

I couldn't find you e-mail address right off had but I know you read this.

We're off to do the well video at the old stockyards. We'll be having lunch in the back room of the Golden Ox before we go play with the down hole camera. The well we will be testing on is directly west of the Golden Ox and right behind the old power house.

I'll have my cell phone on if you decide to come down and laugh at us and need directions ;-)


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Fiske:

I don't think their new venture will detract from the goals of the ASKC, but
will in effect enhance the amateur astronomy community. They are in the
process of creating an opportunity for them to make a living through their
astronomical endeavors. More power to them. I wish them well. Ditto to Bob
Haler and Lymax. It's always great when people can make a living at doing
something they love. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be able to do
that.  I will support both, as much as I can. That's my choice, just like I
choose to support the ASKC.

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


> --- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:
>
> > This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates
> > was discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule
> > their star party events so attendees can feel free to attend the
> > picnic, too. They are doing their best to schedule an event and NOT
> > conflict with two other star parties around the same time. The
> > Great Plains Star Party and the Okie-Tex parties are during the
> > same time of year.
>
> Jim:
>
> In fact, they both start either that weekend or immediately
> afterwards -- OkieTex is scheduled for September 29 through October
> 6, and GreatPlains is scheduled for October 1 through 6.
>
> If I were trying to avoid a conflict with those star parties, I think
> I might have chosen the weekend of September 5-7. Come to think of
> it, September 5 is a new moon.
>
> As far as the potential conflict in dates being "discovered" is
> concerned, I find it hard to believe that members who have been
> involved in this club for more than ten years wouldn't have realized
> there was a conflict up front.
>
> Although I have no doubt that Vic and Jen have made significant
> contributions to the ASKC in the past, what they are doing now is
> attempting to establish their own organization. The September star
> party is being billed as a fund-raiser for the Star Garden
> foundation, for goodness sakes!
>
> I wish them no ill in this endeavor. In fact, had they chosen another
> weekend I would have been pleased to participate and even make a
> contribution toward their project. But whether they intended this or
> not, the scheduling conflict can be viewed (and probably will be
> viewed) by ASKC members as an attempt to co-opt our association to
> further their ends.
>
> I strongly oppose holding the ASKC picnic anywhere other than Powell
> Observatory, despite the difficulties with the Hall in Louisburg.
>
> Fiske
>
> PS: I wonder if Bob Haler has anything scheduled for that weekend?
> Perhaps we should invite him to promote it in our club forums as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Fiske, don't be upset...  Conflicts happen, every once in a while:  it's the 
curse of having too many choices ;-)   We're lucky here in KC that we have 
so many events and great astronomy groups and things to do.  I belong to 
three clubs and think they all fit different needs. Sometimes they overlap 
and I have to pick one activity over the other, but that's ok.  I would love 
to split myself and do them all...  Oki-Tex, Great Plains, pic-nic and 
Stargarden, I want them ALL!!!!!  So many choices, and just one of me! What 
to do?  hehehe

I also think it's ok to invite people from one club to enjoy another 
group/club events.  I've seen that in the past and I find it actually a nice 
thing to do.  We're not separate countries at war, just a bunch of people 
who like astronomy. 

Let's call ourselves fortunate that we have so much to enjoy and share.  
Does it really matter the exact location and name of things?  All we need is 
a nice dark starry sky, maybe some food, and like-minded people to share 
them with... 

Gina 

Wait a minute, Jim.

    You make it sound like we may be out there to make a buck for ICSTARS on
the Star Party.

- Neither ICSTARS or STARGARDEN Foundation are set up to ever become
membership organizations.
- Star Party proceeds from this star party would benefit STARGARDEN to fund
the ASKC observatory, the Chuck Douglas Memorial Observatory
- Again, we sincerely apologize if the dates have caused a stir.  The
possible conflict is purely accidental.
- We would be delighted to host the ASKC picnic IF we were officially asked.
(on any day ASKC likes)  We don't want to overstep our bounds, so that
planning committee would need to discuss it with us.
- We do not have any other club affiliations other than the ASKC and don't
have the time to.
- Any ASKC member wishing to come to the Ranch is welcome, no matter how
much we might disagree on an egroup.
- The only people NOT invited to the Ranch are ex-husbands or ex-wives of
Vic or Jen....

We'll be at the board meeting if anyone wants to chew us out or browbeat us
any farther.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


----------
From: Jim Ketchum <suenjim@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )
Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 6:39 PM


Fiske:

I don't think their new venture will detract from the goals of the ASKC, but
will in effect enhance the amateur astronomy community. They are in the
process of creating an opportunity for them to make a living through their
astronomical endeavors. More power to them. I wish them well. Ditto to Bob
Haler and Lymax. It's always great when people can make a living at doing
something they love. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be able to do
that.  I will support both, as much as I can. That's my choice, just like I
choose to support the ASKC.

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:13 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


> --- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:
>
> > This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates
> > was discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule
> > their star party events so attendees can feel free to attend the
> > picnic, too. They are doing their best to schedule an event and NOT
> > conflict with two other star parties around the same time. The
> > Great Plains Star Party and the Okie-Tex parties are during the
> > same time of year.
>
> Jim:
>
> In fact, they both start either that weekend or immediately
> afterwards -- OkieTex is scheduled for September 29 through October
> 6, and GreatPlains is scheduled for October 1 through 6.
>
> If I were trying to avoid a conflict with those star parties, I think
> I might have chosen the weekend of September 5-7. Come to think of
> it, September 5 is a new moon.
>
> As far as the potential conflict in dates being "discovered" is
> concerned, I find it hard to believe that members who have been
> involved in this club for more than ten years wouldn't have realized
> there was a conflict up front.
>
> Although I have no doubt that Vic and Jen have made significant
> contributions to the ASKC in the past, what they are doing now is
> attempting to establish their own organization. The September star
> party is being billed as a fund-raiser for the Star Garden
> foundation, for goodness sakes!
>
> I wish them no ill in this endeavor. In fact, had they chosen another
> weekend I would have been pleased to participate and even make a
> contribution toward their project. But whether they intended this or
> not, the scheduling conflict can be viewed (and probably will be
> viewed) by ASKC members as an attempt to co-opt our association to
> further their ends.
>
> I strongly oppose holding the ASKC picnic anywhere other than Powell
> Observatory, despite the difficulties with the Hall in Louisburg.
>
> Fiske
>
> PS: I wonder if Bob Haler has anything scheduled for that weekend?
> Perhaps we should invite him to promote it in our club forums as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>







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That wasn't my intention. I personally care less if you make a few bucks.
These things just don't happen. There;'s a lot of behind the scenes
organization involved. I appreciate your attitude of hospitality. I'm
looking forward to taking advantage of it, once I take care of the forest of
trees that fell on my lawn last week. 8^)

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic & Jen Winter" <webmaster@...>
To: <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested / conflict


> Wait a minute, Jim.
>
>     You make it sound like we may be out there to make a buck for ICSTARS
on
> the Star Party.
>
> - Neither ICSTARS or STARGARDEN Foundation are set up to ever become
> membership organizations.
> - Star Party proceeds from this star party would benefit STARGARDEN to
fund
> the ASKC observatory, the Chuck Douglas Memorial Observatory
> - Again, we sincerely apologize if the dates have caused a stir.  The
> possible conflict is purely accidental.
> - We would be delighted to host the ASKC picnic IF we were officially
asked.
> (on any day ASKC likes)  We don't want to overstep our bounds, so that
> planning committee would need to discuss it with us.
> - We do not have any other club affiliations other than the ASKC and don't
> have the time to.
> - Any ASKC member wishing to come to the Ranch is welcome, no matter how
> much we might disagree on an egroup.
> - The only people NOT invited to the Ranch are ex-husbands or ex-wives of
> Vic or Jen....
>
> We'll be at the board meeting if anyone wants to chew us out or browbeat
us
> any farther.
>
> Clear Skies,
> Jen Winter - Owner
> (913) 432-4636
>
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
>
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> ----------
> From: Jim Ketchum <suenjim@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd
be
> interested? )
> Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2002, 6:39 PM
>
>
> Fiske:
>
> I don't think their new venture will detract from the goals of the ASKC,
but
> will in effect enhance the amateur astronomy community. They are in the
> process of creating an opportunity for them to make a living through their
> astronomical endeavors. More power to them. I wish them well. Ditto to Bob
> Haler and Lymax. It's always great when people can make a living at doing
> something they love. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be able to do
> that.  I will support both, as much as I can. That's my choice, just like
I
> choose to support the ASKC.
>
> Keep looking up,
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:13 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
> interested? )
>
>
> > --- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:
> >
> > > This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates
> > > was discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule
> > > their star party events so attendees can feel free to attend the
> > > picnic, too. They are doing their best to schedule an event and NOT
> > > conflict with two other star parties around the same time. The
> > > Great Plains Star Party and the Okie-Tex parties are during the
> > > same time of year.
> >
> > Jim:
> >
> > In fact, they both start either that weekend or immediately
> > afterwards -- OkieTex is scheduled for September 29 through October
> > 6, and GreatPlains is scheduled for October 1 through 6.
> >
> > If I were trying to avoid a conflict with those star parties, I think
> > I might have chosen the weekend of September 5-7. Come to think of
> > it, September 5 is a new moon.
> >
> > As far as the potential conflict in dates being "discovered" is
> > concerned, I find it hard to believe that members who have been
> > involved in this club for more than ten years wouldn't have realized
> > there was a conflict up front.
> >
> > Although I have no doubt that Vic and Jen have made significant
> > contributions to the ASKC in the past, what they are doing now is
> > attempting to establish their own organization. The September star
> > party is being billed as a fund-raiser for the Star Garden
> > foundation, for goodness sakes!
> >
> > I wish them no ill in this endeavor. In fact, had they chosen another
> > weekend I would have been pleased to participate and even make a
> > contribution toward their project. But whether they intended this or
> > not, the scheduling conflict can be viewed (and probably will be
> > viewed) by ASKC members as an attempt to co-opt our association to
> > further their ends.
> >
> > I strongly oppose holding the ASKC picnic anywhere other than Powell
> > Observatory, despite the difficulties with the Hall in Louisburg.
> >
> > Fiske
> >
> > PS: I wonder if Bob Haler has anything scheduled for that weekend?
> > Perhaps we should invite him to promote it in our club forums as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I agree.  Everyone can't go to everything.  But Vic and Jen are trying to
schedule their events the best they can so everyone will have an opportunity to
attend both.  Thank you Vic and Jen for being so considerate.  Every event date
isn't written in stone.  I know Joe and I would be willing to  go on the
caravan.

Jim Ketchum wrote:

> This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
> discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
> party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
> doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
> parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
> parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
> last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
> meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
> events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
> invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
> afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
> the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
> be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
> over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
> "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
>
> Keep looking up,
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
> interested? )
>
> > --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> > >
> >
> > Jen:
> >
> > Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> > the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> > your star party?
> >
> > Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> > attending the ASKC picnic instead.
> >
> > I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> > but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> > Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
> >
> > Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> > promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> > with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> > aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> > members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> > vibrant and inclusive association.
> >
> > Fiske Miles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--- In ASKC@y..., "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@a...> wrote:
> Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to 
> promote an event for your own organization, which directly 
conflicts 
> with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC 
> members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a 
> vibrant and inclusive association.

If you read these messages on the website, rather than get them by 
email, you will notice at the top of the page, in the blue bar it 
says "ASKC - This is the UNOFFICIAL list of the ASKC". Anyone can 
post anything here they want. Nothing here is OFFICIAL. No board 
business can be conducted here, nor decision making process that 
would become "home rule". 

> I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion, 
> but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the 
> Astronomical Society of Kansas City.

So spending their time, efforts and sometimes personal money, to 
build an observatory for exclusive use by the ASKC (and I see no one 
else contributing anything), does not serve the interests of ASKC? 
Wake up and smell the roses.

 

> 
> Fiske Miles

Jen and Vic.......

Jim brought something else to mind.....  The ICStars Star party is for anyone and everyone or is it
limited to ASKC people?  I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?

Scott

Jim Ketchum wrote:
> 
> This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
> discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
> party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
> doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
> parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
> parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
> last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
> meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
> events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
> invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
> afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
> the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
> be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
> over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
> "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
> 
> Keep looking up,
> 
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
> interested? )
> 
> > --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> > >
> >
> > Jen:
> >
> > Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> > the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> > your star party?
> >
> > Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> > attending the ASKC picnic instead.
> >
> > I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> > but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> > Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
> >
> > Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> > promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> > with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> > aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> > members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> > vibrant and inclusive association.
> >
> > Fiske Miles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Of course.  Yes.

We have folks coming in from Minnesota to California to Texas already.  We
certainly wouldn't want to exclude a regional astronomer just because he/she
isn't a member of ASKC.

- everyone is welcome

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


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From: Scott Kranz <skranz@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )
Date: Fri, Feb 8, 2002, 12:48 AM


Jen and Vic.......

Jim brought something else to mind.....  The ICStars Star party is for
anyone and everyone or is it
limited to ASKC people?  I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?

Scott

Jim Ketchum wrote:
>
> This came up over a month ago when the potential conflict in dates was
> discovered. Jen indicated they will do there best to schedule their star
> party events so attendees can feel free to attend the picnic, too. They are
> doing their best to schedule an event and NOT conflict with two other star
> parties around the same time. The Great Plains Star Party and the Okie -Tex
> parties are during the same time of year. If memory serves, I don't think
> last years picnic, or the previous years picnic wasn't on the regular
> meeting date day. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm planning on doing both
> events. I don't have a problem with a club member using this e-groups to
> invite all the rest of us members (or lurkers) to an event. I can't always
> afford to go to the "big" star parties like WSP or TSP, so I look forward to
> the local, close to home events that won't bust my budget. I hope there will
> be a large number of ASKC members at the star party, and we can all caravan
> over to the picnic for an extra measure of fun. As Dennis Miller says,
> "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
>
> Keep looking up,
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:16 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
> interested? )
>
> > --- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> > > Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the
> > > ICSTARS and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> > >
> >
> > Jen:
> >
> > Why would you schedule an ICStars star party over the same weekend as
> > the ASKC club picnic and then encourage ASKC club members to attend
> > your star party?
> >
> > Although I would otherwise be interested in participating, I'll be
> > attending the ASKC picnic instead.
> >
> > I realize some people in this group will disagree with my opinion,
> > but what you are doing does not serve the interests of the
> > Astronomical Society of Kansas City.
> >
> > Unless I'm mistaken, this is the ASKC eGroup. Using this forum to
> > promote an event for your own organization, which directly conflicts
> > with a long-standing ASKC event (of which you were certainly well-
> > aware), is inappropriate and does a discourtesy to all those ASKC
> > members who are devoting their time and energy to make the ASKC a
> > vibrant and inclusive association.
> >
> > Fiske Miles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
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Well i just found the coolest thing. I created a photo album in here 
and posted some pictures of the ice storm. This is a great function 
how come no one uses it? If you want to see just go to the photo 
section and choose my album. shelley

  >I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?

  Personally, I think all star parties should be restricted to those capable of simultanious perambulation and mastication.


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Thanks Dave,

I think I remember how to use this thing with pages that a have a half
moon on the edge.  Let's see.  I start by looking up the first three
letter: MAStication, and continue the match the letters.  Webster who?
Better check before I register for Okie-Tex.

joe

I would be interested if I'm in town then. I might be on my way to Okie-Tex
then.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:18 PM
To: askc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?


Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.

We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...

How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?


Jen Winter

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
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hmmmmmmm  Okie-Tex starts that Sunday night, the 29th, right?  Gates open at noon or so?  Meaning
that we'd have to leave here around 3am to get there at noonish?   Better get lots of sleep on
Saturday, and then maybe a quick cat-nap at Okie-Tex.

Scott

Gary Pittman wrote:
> 
> I would be interested if I'm in town then. I might be on my way to Okie-Tex
> then.
> 
> Gary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: askc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?
> 
> Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
> and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
> 
> We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
> It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...
> 
> How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?
> 
> Jen Winter
> 
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
> 
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The star party officially starts on Sunday. Last year we were welcome to
arrive on Saturday and observe that night.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:16 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?


hmmmmmmm  Okie-Tex starts that Sunday night, the 29th, right?  Gates open at
noon or so?  Meaning
that we'd have to leave here around 3am to get there at noonish?   Better
get lots of sleep on
Saturday, and then maybe a quick cat-nap at Okie-Tex.

Scott

Gary Pittman wrote:
>
> I would be interested if I'm in town then. I might be on my way to
Okie-Tex
> then.
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic & Jen Winter [mailto:webmaster@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: askc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Who'd be interested?
>
> Perhaps many of you remember that we announced that we'll hold the ICSTARS
> and StarGarden Star Party September 27th -29th.
>
> We could possibly get an astronaut come and speak at the event if we want.
> It's a bit outside of the realm of general amateur astronomy, so...
>
> How many of those who might come would like to meet an Astronaut?
>
> Jen Winter
>
> ICSTARS Astronomy
> www.icstars.com
> Astronomical League Reflector Editors
> www.astroleague.org
> Astronomical Tours
> www.AstronomicalTours.net
> Southern Skies Star Party
> www.icstars.com/southernskies
>
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Yeah, and I've heard that both of these will make you go blind.  No, seriously!   : ^ )

Dave H.
  David Young said... 

    >I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?

    Personally, I think all star parties should be restricted to those capable of simultanious perambulation and mastication.


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Rats. Leaves me out. I had to look that up in my Funk and Wagnle.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Why Deliberately Schedule a Conflict (Was: Who'd be
interested? )


>
>
>   >I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?
>
>   Personally, I think all star parties should be restricted to those
capable of simultanious perambulation and mastication.
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Shelley...  nice job on the photos!  I think you picked the best 
ones, too!  I want the icy fence one.... k?

Amy

Hi everyone!  I'm finally back online (and still unable to post to 
egroups unless I get on egroups.  weird.)

1.  I think D. Y. deserves an honorary free pass to any and all 
astronomical events (past and future) just for knowing two such 
snazzy words (and using them in a sentence, too!)

2.  Shelley tells me that I need to post directions to the restaurant 
for Saturday's event, again.  Here goes:  The Cedars Brewery is 
located at 1663 NE Douglas Rd, in Lee's Summit MO.  One travelling on 
470 E should take the Douglas Rd (I may have called it the 291 S exit 
in my original posting.  yikes!) exit (South), turn L @ the S corner 
of Texaco, and turn L into the strip mall E of (behind) Texaco.  The 
Cedars is at the N end of that lot.   If you want to talk to an 
actual person at the restaurant, the number is:  816) 524-2739.

3.  again re the banquet.  I need to get final menu choices from 
those of you who haven't indicated them yet. I may try calling people 
Friday evening to get that info.  Be prepared!  (or use your caller 
ID).

4.  Lots of discussion about the picnic date conflicting with Vic & 
Jen's event.  I think I see the point you were trying to make, Fiske, 
but I've got to admit that I appreciate an open forum that allows 
people to post (and become informed of) events that are related to 
astronomy, regardless of how loosely it may be connected to actual 
ASKC sponsored events.  You raise an interesting point for 
consideration, but so far I don't think that anything has crossed the 
line into what the majority of the members would regard to be 
unwelcome "spam".  I'm always interested to read your point of view, 
though, because you seem to have such a reporter's instinct for 
finding a new "angle" on how to look at an issue.  You go, boy, you 
devil's advocate, you!

Actually, Jim, it would seem that you just need to be able to Perform 
these functions... even if you Might not have been consciously aware 
that you could in fact do so!  Hey, I know, at the next group 
function, let's make D.Y. perambulate and masticate AND say his 
sentence five times real fast!  And if he passes that test, he can do 
it again whilst closing his eyes and touching his nose, too.

Anyway, Jim, you can have a free pass if you help Joe use his half-
moon-shaped-paper-word-listing-thingy.

--- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:
> Rats. Leaves me out. I had to look that up in my Funk and Wagnle.
>> Jim

> 
> >
> >
> >   >I assumed it was open to anyone.  Yeah or no?
> >
> >   Personally, I think all star parties should be restricted to 
those
> capable of simultanious perambulation and mastication.
> >

You know, when I'm the only person awake (and typing) I can totally 
take over this egroups thing!  I could leave all kinds of messages, 
and just knock everyone else out of the box...

But, I'm merciful (and tired).  So I'll delay my evil plotting to 
take complete and utter control of this channel (the first step in my 
nefarious scheme to rule the world) until after I've had a good 
night's sleep.

You all just rest easy now, k?  HAH HAR HARHHH  HA!!!!

Love, 
  Rosemary's Baby's Mother.

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If you can not see the links above, copy and paste the 
following URL directly into your browser: 
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=19431372303&n=2124172035  
     >>

This is a great function 
how come no one uses it? If you want to see just go to the photo 
section and choose my album. shelley

Would you believe I've never paid attention? That is pretty slick. Now that you have discovered it for us maybe a few of us will use it. Nice photos by the way. The first one sure looks dreary. It would make a good setting for a B movie, "Fog Creature From the Ice Planet " or something ;-)


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Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?

Which one are you?

I notice some similarities.  :-)

Good morning,

Joe

In the time-honored tradition of "If you can't beat 'em,
join 'em" :-) several alternatives for the ASKC picnic come to mind.

First, as others have suggested, we could hold the ASCK picnic at the 
ICStars star party. Since non-ASKC members will be attending the star 
party, we would need to host the picnic for all participants. We 
never seem to run out of food at ASKC functions, and if we can get an 
estimate of attendance it shouldn't be too hard to ensure we have 
enough for everyone.

This would be a nice way to show support for Vic and Jen's foundation 
and would give us the chance to treat members from other clubs to 
some ASKC hospitality. We might even add some locals to our ranks.

If this doesn't seem like a good idea to everyone, the best 
alternative would probably be to hold the ASKC picnic on September 
21st. Apparently some ASKC members will be traveling to Okie-Tex the 
weekend of the 28th anyway.

Unfortunately, the full moon occurs on the 21st, but at least we 
could enjoy "spectacular" views of lunar rays. The issue with Fox 
Hall is a bit of a problem. You would think after putting in all the 
darn lights, the city of Louisburg could at least build a picnic 
shelter. I suppose we could locate a shelter at another park to 
server as a fallback position in case of inclement weather.

Fiske

PS: Did I understand from a previous e-mail that Vic and Jen's dark 
sky site also features a rose garden? :-) Just wondering.

Great idea, having it at "the ranch". I don't understand the "rose garden"
reference, but I was out observing last night until after midnight, so I'm
not quite awake as yet.
First light with my new 20" Starmaster. Worked great. Lousy seeing and
transparency. Couldn't even see the Milky Way, but was fun, none the less.

Keep looking up,

Jim
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From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: [ASKC] A Time-Honored Tradition (Was: Why Deliberately...)


> In the time-honored tradition of "If you can't beat 'em,
> join 'em" :-) several alternatives for the ASKC picnic come to mind.
>
> First, as others have suggested, we could hold the ASCK picnic at the
> ICStars star party. Since non-ASKC members will be attending the star
> party, we would need to host the picnic for all participants. We
> never seem to run out of food at ASKC functions, and if we can get an
> estimate of attendance it shouldn't be too hard to ensure we have
> enough for everyone.
>
> This would be a nice way to show support for Vic and Jen's foundation
> and would give us the chance to treat members from other clubs to
> some ASKC hospitality. We might even add some locals to our ranks.
>
> If this doesn't seem like a good idea to everyone, the best
> alternative would probably be to hold the ASKC picnic on September
> 21st. Apparently some ASKC members will be traveling to Okie-Tex the
> weekend of the 28th anyway.
>
> Unfortunately, the full moon occurs on the 21st, but at least we
> could enjoy "spectacular" views of lunar rays. The issue with Fox
> Hall is a bit of a problem. You would think after putting in all the
> darn lights, the city of Louisburg could at least build a picnic
> shelter. I suppose we could locate a shelter at another park to
> server as a fallback position in case of inclement weather.
>
> Fiske
>
> PS: Did I understand from a previous e-mail that Vic and Jen's dark
> sky site also features a rose garden? :-) Just wondering.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

I went to Black & Veatch last night to view the goodies.  They have desks,
lots of book cases (both waist high and some over 6 ft), 2-and 4-drawer file
cabinets, and room dividers (if we wanted to set up any cubicle type of
places).  The dividers come with built-in book shelves and storage
containers.  They also had some black vinyl chairs which I specifically
asked for to go to Powell Observatory.  But, she wasn't sure the chairs were
going "out", and they maybe were going to be used with the new stuff.  She
is checking on that today. 

Anyway - Joe, Gary, and David Y. - perhaps we can target next weekend to go
haul this stuff to my garage?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...] 
Sent:	Friday, February 08, 2002 7:04 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] OK, only one more!

Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?

Which one are you?

I notice some similarities.  :-)

Good morning,

Joe





 

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--- In ASKC@y..., "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@k...> wrote:

Jim:

At least on person in the thread will get the rose garden reference. 
It's not that important.

Great to hear you've got your 20-inch. I was out at Powell last night 
with Rob Esson, cruising about with the Tele Vue 101. As you say, the 
seeing and transparency weren't the best, although earlier in the 
evening I would have rated transparency at about 8. 

I observed the California nebula for the first time. Had to use a 
narrow band, and unfortunately I only have 1.25 inch filters at this 
point, so I couldn't use the 31mmT5. I used a Radian 18mm, which has 
a much narrower FOV. By panning about, though, I could still see a 
considerable extent of the nebulosity with some mottling and brighter 
knots (these on the western end of the nebula).

Also had a magnificent view of M46 and M47 with NGC 2432 (or 
something like that) and Melotte 71 all in the same FOV -- using the 
31mm T5, of course. I think it was the first Melotte object I have 
observed. Swapped in a 7mmT6 which gave a beautiful view of the 
cluster.

Really had a good time. I didn't even use Kendrick dew control (which 
would have been a disaster for the SCT). Didn't cause any problems 
with the 101. Sweet! :-)

Fiske

Hello,

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I've uploaded the file to the e-group.  For the e-group challenged here is the list. The formatting will be messed up but you should be able to figure it out.
Date     Team 

May 4       1 

May 11     2 

May 18     3 

May 25     4 

June 1      5 

June 8      6 

June 15     7 

June 22     8 

June 29     1 

July 6       2 

July 13     3 

July 20     4 

July 27     5 

Aug 3       6 

Aug 10     7 

Aug 17     8

Aug 24     2

Sep 7       3

Sep 14     4

Sep 21     5

Sep 28     6

Oct 5       7

Oct 12     8

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I must have missed the info. What is going on at the restaurant- valentines?

Dr.Eric Flescher

Thanks dave,
As you can see I just got my email again today after spending the nite at
Powell chasing rocks.
Maybe another time.   dt

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:50 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] video


Dick,

I couldn't find you e-mail address right off had but I know you read this.

We're off to do the well video at the old stockyards. We'll be having lunch
in the back room of the Golden Ox before we go play with the down hole
camera. The well we will be testing on is directly west of the Golden Ox and
right behind the old power house.

I'll have my cell phone on if you decide to come down and laugh at us and
need directions ;-)


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Who's Organizing Astronomy Day this year? 

Do we have a committee?  It's about time to start looking at the planning
isn't it?

------
Per the Rose Garden question:
One _could_ under a certain interpretation say that there is a "rose garden"
at the Ranch.  Often, wild roses are called Briars or Briar Rose.  Would a
briar patch count as a rose garden, then?


Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies

--- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> Who's Organizing Astronomy Day this year? 
> 
> Per the Rose Garden question:
> One _could_ under a certain interpretation say that there is 
a "rose garden"
> at the Ranch.  Often, wild roses are called Briars or Briar Rose.  
Would a
> briar patch count as a rose garden, then?
> 

Typically wild roses don't have much scent. So if one was making a 
suggestion that someone should, say, stop and smell them, domestic 
roses would seem to be indicated.

Fiske

Discussion of Astronomy Day is on the Feb 14 Board Meeting agenda.

I suggest we think of a very public location besides the zoo this time. Maybe even two sites, dependig on how much help we have? 

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vic & Jen Winter 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] team duty nights


  Who's Organizing Astronomy Day this year? 

  Do we have a committee?  It's about time to start looking at the planning
  isn't it?

  ------
  Per the Rose Garden question:
  One _could_ under a certain interpretation say that there is a "rose garden"
  at the Ranch.  Often, wild roses are called Briars or Briar Rose.  Would a
  briar patch count as a rose garden, then?


  Clear Skies,
  Jen Winter - Owner
  (913) 432-4636

  ICSTARS Astronomy
  www.icstars.com
  Astronomical League Reflector Editors
  www.astroleague.org
  Astronomical Tours
  www.AstronomicalTours.net
  Southern Skies Star Party
  www.icstars.com/southernskies


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I just returned from the auction and have a car load of paper cups, napkins, paper towels and other assorted goods.

I intend to take some of it to Powell. Does the Social Director/cookie person need any stuff for meetings?


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One of our members is having a scout camp out at Louis Young Park tonight and Saturday night. She wants to bring the scouts over to the observatory at 9:00 cloudy or clear.

Would anyone be interested in doing this


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Anybody know what time the dinner Saturday night is?  I know it is at Cedars Brewary. 

Dave H. 


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That sounds good to me Jackie. I don't believe we have anything else planned
but Linda isn't here right now. I'll check with her when she gets home. When
are we shooting for? Saturday the 16th or Sunday the 17th?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:34 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


I went to Black & Veatch last night to view the goodies.  They have desks,
lots of book cases (both waist high and some over 6 ft), 2-and 4-drawer file
cabinets, and room dividers (if we wanted to set up any cubicle type of
places).  The dividers come with built-in book shelves and storage
containers.  They also had some black vinyl chairs which I specifically
asked for to go to Powell Observatory.  But, she wasn't sure the chairs were
going "out", and they maybe were going to be used with the new stuff.  She
is checking on that today.

Anyway - Joe, Gary, and David Y. - perhaps we can target next weekend to go
haul this stuff to my garage?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent:	Friday, February 08, 2002 7:04 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] OK, only one more!

Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?

Which one are you?

I notice some similarities.  :-)

Good morning,

Joe







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7:00

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:45 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] What time is dinner?


Anybody know what time the dinner Saturday night is?  I know it is at Cedars
Brewary.

Dave H.


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I can help out.
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

In a message dated 2/9/02 9:07:32 AM, ASKC@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:46:11 +0000
   From: Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@...>
Subject: Re: team duty nights

Who's Organizing Astronomy Day this year? 

Do we have a committee?  It's about time to start looking at the planning
isn't it?
 >>

Any similarity to real persons or places is strictly unintentional 
and coincidental!


-- In ASKC@y..., Joe Wright <bsa87joe@s...> wrote:
> Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?
> 
> Which one are you?
> 
> I notice some similarities.  :-)
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Joe

David, cups and napkins are always useful.  Thanks!

Amy



--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I just returned from the auction and have a car load of paper cups, 
napkins, paper towels and other assorted goods.
> 
> I intend to take some of it to Powell. Does the Social 
Director/cookie person need any stuff for meetings?
> 
> 
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I'm posting this to both groups since some of the non-NASA group folks might also be interested.

I spent the afternoon comparison shopping for hard drives. I went to Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA and a show. Prices listed are the lowest prices found. Circuit City and CompUSA prices were the same or more for the same items at Best Buy with the exception of the 5400 RPM 80 Gig

Best Buy
Western Digital 7200 RPM
60 gig    $180
80 gig    $200
100 gig  $250
120 gig  $300

Comp USA
80 gig $170 (5400 rpm)

Blue Star Computer show - various vendors. These are new with warranty.
Western Digital 7200 RPM
40 gig   $97
60 gig   $111  (Seagate) 
80 gig   $169
80 gig   $129  (5400 RPM)

Microsoft cordless optical mouse $40

I'll be checking the size of the existing hard drives, processor speeds, video cards and memory of the classroom computers tonight. I bought a 2 day ticket to Blue Star so I can go back tomorrow. I'm leaning towards the 80 Gig 5400 RPM. What do you folks think?


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RE:  High capacity and high speed hard drives    

One should note when upgrading an older system that many new drives use
faster speeds.  Double-check that an ATA card is available to upgrade your
system.  Recently, we were updating an old machine and found out about
incomptabilities the hard way.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
www.icstars.com
Astronomical League Reflector Editors
www.astroleague.org
Astronomical Tours
www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party
www.icstars.com/southernskies


----------
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] computer stuff
Date: Sat, Feb 9, 2002, 9:21 PM


I'm posting this to both groups since some of the non-NASA group folks might
also be interested.

I spent the afternoon comparison shopping for hard drives. I went to Best
Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA and a show. Prices listed are the lowest prices
found. Circuit City and CompUSA prices were the same or more for the same
items at Best Buy with the exception of the 5400 RPM 80 Gig

Best Buy
Western Digital 7200 RPM
60 gig    $180
80 gig    $200
100 gig  $250
120 gig  $300

Comp USA
80 gig $170 (5400 rpm)

Blue Star Computer show - various vendors. These are new with warranty.
Western Digital 7200 RPM
40 gig   $97
60 gig   $111  (Seagate)
80 gig   $169
80 gig   $129  (5400 RPM)

Microsoft cordless optical mouse $40

I'll be checking the size of the existing hard drives, processor speeds,
video cards and memory of the classroom computers tonight. I bought a 2 day
ticket to Blue Star so I can go back tomorrow. I'm leaning towards the 80
Gig 5400 RPM. What do you folks think?


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  RE:  High capacity and high speed hard drives    

  Thanks for the feedback. I think we've already decide the best bang for the buck is the 80 gig Western Digital 5400 RPM for $129.00


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After talking with Kyle for a while I think we should go with the Western Digital 5400 rpm  80 gig hard drive.

Unless someone has an objection or a better plan, I will buy it tomorrow.


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Sounds fine to me, David.

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: NASAGRANT@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 4:09 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] HARD DRIVE


  After talking with Kyle for a while I think we should go with the Western Digital 5400 rpm  80 gig hard drive.

  Unless someone has an objection or a better plan, I will buy it tomorrow.


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For your useless information files:

The computers in the classroom have these drives and processors

Server  c: 400 meg
             d: 8 gig

Hutch  c:  16.2 gig
            d:  7.8 gig
             128 meg ram      
       867 mz processor
      could be upgraded to 1.5 gz

Classroom computer
             c: 9.3 gig
             128 meg ram
              647 mz processor



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A rainy night at Powell but most of the group had fun. The kids were sitting on the floor and one little girl about 4 years old fell asleep and just kind of folded over until her head was touching the floor. She cracked me up when she started snoring. I made a potentially useful contact with a guy from Sprint. Might help us with some computer equipment! The green laser pointer is really cool sparkling through the rain drops ;-)

Hope you all had fun at the food fest tonight. I had leftovers.  ( a tiny tear runs down my face ) waaaa.


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This site could be pretty useful.  You can punch in the name of 
any worldwide city and get the coordinates.  It has 2,812,526 
entries and it did find even Parker, KS (Scopeville):

http://www.meridianworlddata.com/Product-Search.asp?itemid=731

Gina

Hi, Gary -- (and Joe and David Y)  -- it all depends on when Joe can get the
truck/trailer that he volunteered...  We can do it next Saturday, but I will
check with my friend to be sure...  jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


That sounds good to me Jackie. I don't believe we have anything else planned
but Linda isn't here right now. I'll check with her when she gets home. When
are we shooting for? Saturday the 16th or Sunday the 17th?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:34 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


I went to Black & Veatch last night to view the goodies.  They have desks,
lots of book cases (both waist high and some over 6 ft), 2-and 4-drawer file
cabinets, and room dividers (if we wanted to set up any cubicle type of
places).  The dividers come with built-in book shelves and storage
containers.  They also had some black vinyl chairs which I specifically
asked for to go to Powell Observatory.  But, she wasn't sure the chairs were
going "out", and they maybe were going to be used with the new stuff.  She
is checking on that today.

Anyway - Joe, Gary, and David Y. - perhaps we can target next weekend to go
haul this stuff to my garage?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent:	Friday, February 08, 2002 7:04 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] OK, only one more!

Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?

Which one are you?

I notice some similarities.  :-)

Good morning,

Joe







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KC Astronomy lists as many astronomy-related local events and meetings as
possible, included ASKC ones.  If you know of any events/activities you
would like to add you can click on the Submit Your Events link.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mark [mailto:nova@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:59 AM
  Subject: KC Astronomy Website updated


  http://www.kcastronomy.com/

  Have an event that's not listed?  See instructions on the site on how
  you can get your clubs event posted.

  Thanks!
  KC Astronomy Staff
  http://www.kcastronomy.com/



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Jackie,

Sounds gooda to me.

Joe

What's going on Joe, are you into cheeese? Not very goooda!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


Jackie,

Sounds gooda to me.

Joe





 

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Naw, Gary.... it's just his latent Italian blood coming out.  

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


What's going on Joe, are you into cheeese? Not very goooda!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


Jackie,

Sounds gooda to me.

Joe





 

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Hey all!

Was just looking at the Cosmic Messenger about the ASKC star party.  It's scheduled for 3 days now? 
Thrusday night the 13th, Friday night, and Saturday night?  Does everyone realize that the June
Board meeting is the 13th?  If thats the dates for the star party, we may want to reschedule the
Board meeting for June.

Else there may not be a quorm (sp?).

Where is it being held?  Does anyone know?  Maybe it was announced at the December party/meeting?  I
wasn't there.

-Scott

Amy:  Thanks for putting another great banquet.  Everyone seemed to really
enjoy it.

By the way, I forget what S*T*D*I*F stands for.

Tom

Jackie,

There is that blood in my family.  Along with Native American.  Ooh, the
power of cheese :-)

Hey, that's one of the perks about camping East of Osceola during summer
camp.  The cheese factory.  One hundred different cheeses.

Joe

--- In ASKC@y..., Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:

> Where is it being held?  Does anyone know?  Maybe it was announced 
> at the December party/meeting?  I wasn't there.
> 
> -Scott

It's being held somewhere in the Kansas Flinthills at a Bed and 
Breakfast location that Dan is keeping mum for now. Full details are 
promised for the April Cosmic Messenger.

Rescheduling the Board Meeting sounds like a good idea to me.

Fiske

Amy:

Just to add my two cents worth: Elly and I had a terrific evening, as 
did Rob and Susan Esson. I saw a lot of smiling, happy people. Great 
job and thanks for all your hard work.

Did Kathy and Gil have a schedule conflict or something?

Hopefully a few of the pictures I shot will turn out. I plan to run 
an article in the March CM about the banquet. Can you let me know how 
many people attended and who donated the door prizes? Also, did stdif 
stand for "Something to do in February?" It would be nice to have the 
correct answer for the article. :-)

Tom/Larry/et al:

Please e-mail me a few of your party pics for possible use in the 
Cosmic Messenger. Thanks!

Fiske

<snip>
> 
> Did Kathy and Gil have a schedule conflict or something?
> 
<snip>

I think they are in Florida for the Winter Star Party....   ?

-scott

ive never known it to be very latent.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Beucher [mailto:m31@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:58 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


Naw, Gary.... it's just his latent Italian blood coming out.  

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


What's going on Joe, are you into cheeese? Not very goooda!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


Jackie,

Sounds gooda to me.

Joe





 

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Ditto on that Tom. We're really going to miss Amy when she passes the duty
along to another person.

STDIF (Something To Do In February)

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 9:48 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] stdif banquet


Amy:  Thanks for putting another great banquet.  Everyone seemed to really
enjoy it.

By the way, I forget what S*T*D*I*F stands for.

Tom







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Gil and Kathy left for Winter Star Party last Thursday. They still had no
electricity when they left.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: fiskem3 [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:53 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: stdif banquet


Amy:

Just to add my two cents worth: Elly and I had a terrific evening, as
did Rob and Susan Esson. I saw a lot of smiling, happy people. Great
job and thanks for all your hard work.

Did Kathy and Gil have a schedule conflict or something?

Hopefully a few of the pictures I shot will turn out. I plan to run
an article in the March CM about the banquet. Can you let me know how
many people attended and who donated the door prizes? Also, did stdif
stand for "Something to do in February?" It would be nice to have the
correct answer for the article. :-)

Tom/Larry/et al:

Please e-mail me a few of your party pics for possible use in the
Cosmic Messenger. Thanks!

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Probably Saturday....but I will let you know more later....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...] 
Sent:	Friday, February 08, 2002 5:56 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC

That sounds good to me Jackie. I don't believe we have anything else planned
but Linda isn't here right now. I'll check with her when she gets home. When
are we shooting for? Saturday the 16th or Sunday the 17th?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:34 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] Free Furniture for Astro League & ASKC


I went to Black & Veatch last night to view the goodies.  They have desks,
lots of book cases (both waist high and some over 6 ft), 2-and 4-drawer file
cabinets, and room dividers (if we wanted to set up any cubicle type of
places).  The dividers come with built-in book shelves and storage
containers.  They also had some black vinyl chairs which I specifically
asked for to go to Powell Observatory.  But, she wasn't sure the chairs were
going "out", and they maybe were going to be used with the new stuff.  She
is checking on that today.

Anyway - Joe, Gary, and David Y. - perhaps we can target next weekend to go
haul this stuff to my garage?

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent:	Friday, February 08, 2002 7:04 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] OK, only one more!

Is Pinky and the Brain still on TV?

Which one are you?

I notice some similarities.  :-)

Good morning,

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Many thanks  to Amy for great organization on the dinner Saturday night. REally great! Thank you!

Also, I hope each of you will join us for the Polar Bear Star Party Saturday night 2/16 at Powell. Bring your best winter gear, and we'll have a great time! : ^ )

Dave H.


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I just spoke with Gil.  They just arrived at WSP and are fine.  Their
electrons are flowing.  I have been checking the house for them.  They
got power back on Saturday.

Joe

Just a reminder of the upcoming Saturn Occultation on Wednesday 
evening. Details for KC area can be found at:

http://www.askconline.org/sky.htm

More details about the historical significance of this occultation 
can be found at:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/0221ring.htm

Rob Robinson
VP of Occultation Services
I.O.T.A.

I've uploaded the latest and greatest (?) Team Duty Night list with topics and times added.

Please check it for accuracy and report back to me if I made any retarded mistrakes.


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David --  I can't access that info.  When I got to yahoo egroups, it tells
me I'm not a member of any group!  Yet I get all the messages here at work.
I gave up long ago.  

Please put it in an email like you did before...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:34 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc:	FiskeM3@...
Subject:	[ASKC] team duty dates

I've uploaded the latest and greatest (?) Team Duty Night list with topics
and times added.

Please check it for accuracy and report back to me if I made any retarded
mistrakes.


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Here it is again embedded in this message. The first one is in the e-groups file area as "Team nights 2002.doc    The formatting gets trashed here but you can see the information.

Date Team Topic Time 

May 4 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:30

May 11 2 Star Clusters 8:30

May 18 3 Glorious Galaxies 8:30 

May 25 4 The Solar System 8:30

June 1 5 Our Amazing Moon 8:30

June 8 6 The Life and Death of Stars 8:30

June 15 7 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 8:30

June 22 8 Hyper Novae 8:30

June 29 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:30

July 6 2 Star Clusters 8:30

July 13 3 Glorious Galaxies 8:30

July 20 4 The Solar System 8:30

July 27 5 Our Amazing Moon 8:30

Aug 3 6 The Life and Death of Stars 8:30

Aug 10 7 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 8:30

Aug 17 8 Hyper Novae 8:00

Aug 24 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:00

Aug 31 2 Star Clusters 8:00

Sep 7 3 Glorious Galaxies 7:30

Sep 14 4 The Solar System 7:30

Sep 21 5 Our Amazing Moon 7:30

Sep 28 6 The Life and Death of Stars 7:00

Oct 5 7 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 7:00

Oct 12 8 Hyper Novae 7:00

Oct 19 1 Astronomy for Dummies 7:00 

Oct 26 2 Star Clusters 7:00 



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  David --  I can't access that info.  When I got to yahoo egroups, it tells
  me I'm not a member of any group!  Yet I get all the messages here at work.
  I gave up long ago.  

  Pretty funny. You probably just noticed that as your message was going out, you were getting the list in another e-mail :-)


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I think there is a problem.......    Joe Wright can verify, but didn't team #8 (Joe's team) put down for "Treasures of tonights sky"?  

Joe?


-Scott

>>> dyoung8@... 02/12/02 10:34PM >>>
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The topics listed for the 2002 program nights should be correct. However, if anyone can think up "jazzier" titles, please feel free to suggest away. For instance "Star Clusters" doesn't sound particularly fascinating. Maybe "Yo Bubba, Who of Youse Guys Spilt Dat Salt Shaker in Da Sky?" How about some ideas for a snazzy name from one of you artistic types? 


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David - Yes, I did notice, and I appreciate it!  Thanks bunches....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:35 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] team duty dates



  David --  I can't access that info.  When I got to yahoo egroups, it tells
  me I'm not a member of any group!  Yet I get all the messages here at
work.
  I gave up long ago.  

  Pretty funny. You probably just noticed that as your message was going
out, you were getting the list in another e-mail :-)


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] team duty dates


  I think there is a problem.......    Joe Wright can verify, but didn't team #8 (Joe's team) put down for "Treasures of tonights sky"?  

  Joe?

  Boy, I'll say there's a problem!  I have the team leaders and numbers mixed up! Somewhere in the translation the topics and team leader list got shuffled. Revision to follow in a few minutes.  Duh!


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Scott I think your right. Thats what I was told anyway. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:42 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] team duty dates


I think there is a problem.......    Joe Wright can verify, but didn't team
#8 (Joe's team) put down for "Treasures of tonights sky"?

Joe?


-Scott

>>> dyoung8@... 02/12/02 10:34PM >>>
I've uploaded the latest and greatest (?) Team Duty Night list with topics
and times added.

Please check it for accuracy and report back to me if I made any retarded
mistrakes.


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Ok, there's still a chance that I'll get this right sometime this month.

Date Team Topic Time 

May 4 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:30

May 11 2 Star Clusters 8:30

May 18 3 Glorious Galaxies 8:30 

May 25 4 Our Amazing Moon 8:30

June 1 5 Hyper Novae 8:30

June 8 6 The Solar System 8:30

June 15 7 The Life and Death of Stars 8:30

June 22 8 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 8:30

June 29 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:30

July 6 2 Star Clusters 8:30

July 13 3 Glorious Galaxies 8:30

July 20 4 Our Amazing Moon 8:30

July 27 5 Hyper Novae 8:30

Aug 3 6 The Solar System 8:30

Aug 10 7 The Life and Death of Stars 8:30

Aug 17 8 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 8:00

Aug 24 1 Astronomy for Dummies 8:00

Aug 31 2 Star Clusters 8:00

Sep 7 3 Glorious Galaxies 7:30

Sep 14 4 Our Amazing Moon 7:30

Sep 21 5 Hyper Novae 7:30

Sep 28 6 The Solar System 7:00

Oct 5 7 The Life and Death of Stars 7:00

Oct 12 8 Treasures of Tonight's Sky 7:00

Oct 19 1 Astronomy for Dummies 7:00 

Oct 26 2 Star Clusters 7:00



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Ok, in the hopes that I'll eventually get this straight, I've uploaded a corrected list of team's and topics. Let me know if I'm getting closer.


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To David Y., Joe W. and Gary P:

I just talked to Black & Veatch, and we are scheduled to pick up the
furniture this Saturday morning at 10 AM.  Joe, I hope you can get the
trailer!  We are getting 5 desks, and at least 10 each 2-drawer file
cabinets with some work tops.  The bookcases and 4-drawer files they are
sending out to construction sites.  No chairs for us, either.  They send
those out to the field as well.

11401 Lamar - It's a big, sort of dark, building.  We go to the north side
(the back of the building), and there is a delivery place there.  We ring
the bell, and they will have our stuff nearby.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

I should be there all eager and ready to sweat.

By the way, Surplus Exchange had some nice Kodak slide projectors for $75. I tried one out and the only thing that didn't work was the remote focus. Remote advance and back-up worked. It had a nice case and a timer as well. Seemed like a very good deal but I think we have a new one now. I don't know if we should think about a spare or one for off site programs? We'll let the board decide.


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I have not caught comet Ikeya-Zhang yet but Valentine's day may be the night 
to catch it  after sunset.
The comet around mag 5 will be a few degrees to the right and up from the 
crescent moon. 
The next night the comet will be a lower and and to the right. It is still 
faint but possibly with binocular even with the moon, we may be able to pick 
it up. 

This comet will get brighter though in the coming month and so if you can't 
pick it up then there will be time.

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com- Eclipse Train Land cruise June 2001- 
Host/presenter-  Eric's Black Sun Eclipse 2001 Africa video 

Hey, guys & gals - the ASKC Board meeting is Thursday night.  Wouldn't want
to miss THAT!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:35 AM
To:	DembinskiD@...
Subject:	[ASKC] comet Ikeya Zhang

I have not caught comet Ikeya-Zhang yet but Valentine's day may be the night

to catch it  after sunset.
The comet around mag 5 will be a few degrees to the right and up from the 
crescent moon. 
The next night the comet will be a lower and and to the right. It is still 
faint but possibly with binocular even with the moon, we may be able to pick

it up. 

This comet will get brighter though in the coming month and so if you can't 
pick it up then there will be time.

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
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There's an interesting article in the new Scientific American on impacts and extinction events.


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Thanks, David, for letting us know.  I was taking so many subscriptions, I
had to let most go.  So I appreciate being tipped off when a good article
appears in a magazine other than Astronomy or Sky and Tel, or Amateur
Astronomy, or Discover, or Science News, or National Geographic, or...  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:23 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] impacts

There's an interesting article in the new Scientific American on impacts and
extinction events.


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...speaking of articles.......

The Jan/Feb issue of Mercury (Astronmical Society of the Pacific) magazine has an article on Hypernovaae.  I'll scan it tonight and put it out on yahoogroups files section.

Scott

>>> JBeucher@... 02/13/02 03:40PM >>>
Thanks, David, for letting us know.  I was taking so many subscriptions, I
had to let most go.  So I appreciate being tipped off when a good article
appears in a magazine other than Astronomy or Sky and Tel, or Amateur
Astronomy, or Discover, or Science News, or National Geographic, or...  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...m] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:23 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject:	[ASKC] impacts

There's an interesting article in the new Scientific American on impacts and
extinction events.


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Over the next several weeks, the ASKC web page is going to go through 
some extensive remodeling.
Some things are going to disappear, to make room for new stuff.
The idea is to make for a cleaner look, and more informative pages.
Those things which are more or less "ASKC internal", will be gone. 
The webpages will be geared more to general information for the 
public, and those areas where revenues are generated.
The transition will be gradual, so in the meantime, bear with me!


Rob Robinson
ASKC Webmaster

David and all -

You can see at least a scaled-down version of the article at this web
address:

http://www.sciam.com/news/021302/1.html

Jackie


 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:23 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] impacts

There's an interesting article in the new Scientific American on impacts and
extinction events.


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Larry Robinson's recent image of this comet appears on Sky and Telescope's web site.  The address is:

http://skyandtelescope.com/news/current/article_473_1.asp

-Dave Dembinski




KCStarguy@... wrote:

>I have not caught comet Ikeya-Zhang yet but Valentine's day may be the night 
>to catch it  after sunset.
>The comet around mag 5 will be a few degrees to the right and up from the 
>crescent moon. 
>The next night the comet will be a lower and and to the right. It is still 
>faint but possibly with binocular even with the moon, we may be able to pick 
>it up. 
>
>This comet will get brighter though in the coming month and so if you can't 
>pick it up then there will be time.
>
>Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
> astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
>webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
>http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
>(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
>blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com- Eclipse Train Land cruise June 2001- 
>Host/presenter-  Eric's Black Sun Eclipse 2001 Africa video 
>
-- 




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Hey here's a bonus to get some people to show up at the Board Meeting........  Remember it is YOUR
club and your money!

I will have 2002 Lunar phase calendars to give away and I'll have finder charts for the comet!

-scott

"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:
> 
> Hey, guys & gals - the ASKC Board meeting is Thursday night.  Wouldn't want
> to miss THAT!
> 
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:       KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
> Sent:      Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:35 AM
> To:      DembinskiD@...
> Subject:      [ASKC] comet Ikeya Zhang
> 
> I have not caught comet Ikeya-Zhang yet but Valentine's day may be the night
> 
> to catch it  after sunset.
> The comet around mag 5 will be a few degrees to the right and up from the
> crescent moon.
> The next night the comet will be a lower and and to the right. It is still
> faint but possibly with binocular even with the moon, we may be able to pick
> 
> it up.
> 
> This comet will get brighter though in the coming month and so if you can't
> pick it up then there will be time.
> 
> Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
> astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
> webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website -
> http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter
> (eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to
> blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com- Eclipse Train Land cruise June 2001-
> Host/presenter-  Eric's Black Sun Eclipse 2001 Africa video
> 
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Jackie, I received this message posted this morning. I sent one to you this
morning telling you that I found out late last night that my insurance
adjuster is coming to inspect damage at 9:00 Saturday morning. This is
something I can't work around and I need to be here. I'll probably link up
with you guys late. Can you give me a cell phone number so that I can call
and verify where to meet you?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:30 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] League office furniture.


To David Y., Joe W. and Gary P:

I just talked to Black & Veatch, and we are scheduled to pick up the
furniture this Saturday morning at 10 AM.  Joe, I hope you can get the
trailer!  We are getting 5 desks, and at least 10 each 2-drawer file
cabinets with some work tops.  The bookcases and 4-drawer files they are
sending out to construction sites.  No chairs for us, either.  They send
those out to the field as well.

11401 Lamar - It's a big, sort of dark, building.  We go to the north side
(the back of the building), and there is a delivery place there.  We ring
the bell, and they will have our stuff nearby.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales








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Doesn't sound like you let very many of them go Jackie!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:40 PM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] impacts


Thanks, David, for letting us know.  I was taking so many subscriptions, I
had to let most go.  So I appreciate being tipped off when a good article
appears in a magazine other than Astronomy or Sky and Tel, or Amateur
Astronomy, or Discover, or Science News, or National Geographic, or...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:23 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] impacts

There's an interesting article in the new Scientific American on impacts and
extinction events.


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David:

I wasn't' worried.  I knew you get it straight ole chap.

Joe

Jackie,

I have a 4x8 trailer with 4' sides ready to go.  I can also get a flat
bed trailer 6x10 with 16" sides if someone would like to pull it.  I
might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if
there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Joe

yes, that is our topic.

This may be a stupid question....  but 
Doesn't the entry level Uhaul truck rent for $19.95?   I'd be willing to
spot the cash if it can substitute for a possibly  non-existant truck /
driver to pull the trailer. - and possibly protect the furnishings from the
wind and weather.

We would help, but as usual, we have an appointment on Saturday that we
can't break.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

ICSTARS Astronomy
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From: Joe Wright <bsa87joe@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] League office furniture.
Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2002, 2:31 AM


Jackie,

I have a 4x8 trailer with 4' sides ready to go.  I can also get a flat
bed trailer 6x10 with 16" sides if someone would like to pull it.  I
might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if
there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Joe







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I might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Me have hitch.


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Dave,

Cool dude.
Dare I say, do you have a 1 7/8 ball?  One trailer is 1.875 and the
other is 2"
I have lots of balls,  1.875", 2", 2  5/16".  Be quiet Shelley.


Vic:

To rent a truck would cost $34.95 for an estimated 4 hrs.  This is the
small pick-up style truck and 1 dz. pads.  There is a $0.49/mile
charge.  We could get all the desks in the U-Haul and the file cabinets
in the pick-up (7 in mine).  It makes no difference to me.

Joe

Hey I didnt say any thing. But I could, your always leaving yourself WIDE
OPEN :) Im just to nice this morning.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:28 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] League office furniture.


Dave,

Cool dude.
Dare I say, do you have a 1 7/8 ball?  One trailer is 1.875 and the
other is 2"
I have lots of balls,  1.875", 2", 2  5/16".  Be quiet Shelley.


Vic:

To rent a truck would cost $34.95 for an estimated 4 hrs.  This is the
small pick-up style truck and 1 dz. pads.  There is a $0.49/mile
charge.  We could get all the desks in the U-Haul and the file cabinets
in the pick-up (7 in mine).  It makes no difference to me.

Joe







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Joe - My car can't pull anything, darn it.  With the 4 x 8 trailer, we may
have to make 2 trips, but at least the distance isn't too far.   I just
appreciate your help (and Gary and David) in getting this done.  My daughter
is coming over Friday night to help me make room in my garage!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:32 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League office furniture.

Jackie,

I have a 4x8 trailer with 4' sides ready to go.  I can also get a flat
bed trailer 6x10 with 16" sides if someone would like to pull it.  I
might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if
there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Joe





 

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Dave,

Cool dude.
Dare I say, do you have a 1 7/8 ball?  One trailer is 1.875 and the
other is 2"
I have lots of balls,  1.875", 2", 2  5/16".  Be quiet Shelley.


I thought everyone knew I had big balls Joe. The one on the pickup is 2" and that is the truck I was planning to empty out. I finally sold the '96 so I'll be forced to use the '01 and clean it out ;-)


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Gary & all - my cell phone number is (913) 522-8799.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:36 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] League office furniture.

Jackie, I received this message posted this morning. I sent one to you this
morning telling you that I found out late last night that my insurance
adjuster is coming to inspect damage at 9:00 Saturday morning. This is
something I can't work around and I need to be here. I'll probably link up
with you guys late. Can you give me a cell phone number so that I can call
and verify where to meet you?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:30 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] League office furniture.


To David Y., Joe W. and Gary P:

I just talked to Black & Veatch, and we are scheduled to pick up the
furniture this Saturday morning at 10 AM.  Joe, I hope you can get the
trailer!  We are getting 5 desks, and at least 10 each 2-drawer file
cabinets with some work tops.  The bookcases and 4-drawer files they are
sending out to construction sites.  No chairs for us, either.  They send
those out to the field as well.

11401 Lamar - It's a big, sort of dark, building.  We go to the north side
(the back of the building), and there is a delivery place there.  We ring
the bell, and they will have our stuff nearby.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales








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Dave,

Good morning.  I'm headed out to the job site after I load up.

Joe

Good morning.  I'm headed out to the job site after I load up.

Good morning back at ya. I'm taking my Ford to the levee to video tape 8 more wells today. I'll have a helper (hopefully) with me today. If we finish up early I may visit you. Give me a call on the my cell phone 913-558-1155 about noon and we'll see how it goes. I may drop my helper off at Rick's if he needs someone and come on out to pester you.


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Dave,

Okie dokie.

I've got a hitch on my van too. No light hookups but we can tow with mine if
need be.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:25 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League office furniture.


Joe - My car can't pull anything, darn it.  With the 4 x 8 trailer, we may
have to make 2 trips, but at least the distance isn't too far.   I just
appreciate your help (and Gary and David) in getting this done.  My daughter
is coming over Friday night to help me make room in my garage!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:32 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League office furniture.

Jackie,

I have a 4x8 trailer with 4' sides ready to go.  I can also get a flat
bed trailer 6x10 with 16" sides if someone would like to pull it.  I
might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if
there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Joe







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I finally got hold of my insurance adjuster and we changed my appointment
time so I should be able to meet you all at 10:00.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 7:25 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] League office furniture.


Joe - My car can't pull anything, darn it.  With the 4 x 8 trailer, we may
have to make 2 trips, but at least the distance isn't too far.   I just
appreciate your help (and Gary and David) in getting this done.  My daughter
is coming over Friday night to help me make room in my garage!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent:	Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:32 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] League office furniture.

Jackie,

I have a 4x8 trailer with 4' sides ready to go.  I can also get a flat
bed trailer 6x10 with 16" sides if someone would like to pull it.  I
might see about putting my trailer on the flatbed and haul it there if
there is a yes out there to sentence two.

Joe







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Assuming it is clear, is anyone going to be at the observatory Sunday night? 
I'd like to try to find Ikeya-Zhang after sunset?
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

There have been a few questions recently about using the AP8P camera for imaging galaxies or other objects. 

The terms of the NASA grant are very specific. The camera can not be used for any purpose other than those outlined in our grant proposal, namely, the imaging of asteroids.

However, the performance period of our grant is up on February 28 at which time the camera becomes the property of the ASKC and can be used for anything we want.

We intend to continue to use the camera for asteroid imaging but after February 28 we will be free to use it for other imaging. Failure to follow proper procedures when using the AP8P could result in a very expensive catastrophe. The AP8P has some very important operational procedures that are not required with the ST-9 camera and therefore special training is required before anyone is allowed to use it.  For example, you can just shut the ST-9 off as soon as you are done with it. If you just shut the AP8P off, there is a strong possibility the chip will be destroyed by thermal shock as it warms up unevenly and cracks. 

BEFORE  you try to use the AP8P you MUST be trained and cleared by Dick Trentman either directly or through one of his designated assistants. Blowing up a $13,000 camera is real low on my list of fun things to do at Powell.


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  WE saw the comet pretty well Saturday night from powell. I could see no tail in my 18"...but about an 6 to 8 arc minute coma. 

  Dave

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KCStarguy@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 8:58 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] sunday night


  Assuming it is clear, is anyone going to be at the observatory Sunday night? 
  I'd like to try to find Ikeya-Zhang after sunset?
  Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

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Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

Someone I know wants to know...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

Don't know.

Maybe:  My very elegant mother just sung us new poem.  I just make them
up as I go along.

Joe

  Jackie...a famous one is "My very elegant mother just showed us nine planets".
Dave
  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] the planets


  Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

  What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
  the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
  recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

  Someone I know wants to know...

          Jackie Beucher
  EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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That's a good one, Dave.  I will pass it on, but I'd also like to hear more!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...] 
Sent:	Monday, February 18, 2002 6:31 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] the planets

  Jackie...a famous one is "My very elegant mother just showed us nine
planets".
Dave
  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] the planets


  Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

  What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
  the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and
can't
  recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

  Someone I know wants to know...

          Jackie Beucher
  EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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Much thanks to Joe and Rita Wright, David Young and Gary Pittman, for moving
the office furniture from Black & Veatch to my garage!  We got it done!
And, let me tell you, that Joe is one heck of a mover -- those scout-types
are really prepared!  He's also pretty mean with a chain saw as well....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...] 
Sent:	Monday, February 18, 2002 6:31 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] the planets

  Jackie...a famous one is "My very elegant mother just showed us nine
planets".
Dave
  ---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] the planets


  Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

  What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
  the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and
can't
  recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

  Someone I know wants to know...

          Jackie Beucher
  EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

My very elegant mother just sat upon nine porcupines (or pizzas)


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The aurora activity is very high.  I wish I was in Russia right now!

Drat these clouds.

rett

"Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...> wrote:

>Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....
>
>What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
>the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
>recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?
>
>Someone I know wants to know...
>
>        Jackie Beucher
>EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>
>The first one I heard was My Very Energetic Mother Just Served Us Nine Pumpkins.
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jackie my kids did " My very eager mother just serverd us nine pizzas. "
shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] the planets


Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

Someone I know wants to know...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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How about "My very elegant mother just sat upon nine porcupines"

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] the planets


Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

Someone I know wants to know...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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Testing, testing....Is Bill Boyle out there somewhere?


Hmmm...I wondered why the mouse wasn't working all of a sudden. I must remember to put the cell phone somewhere else ;-)


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For those of you who had cable problems during the ice storm aftermath...

Roadrunner offers a FREE dial up service. (Free for the first 10 hours per month that is) I don't have a modem in my main computer but the laptop works just fine. Can't beat the price.


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We have 4 star parties booked for the duty week of March 2 - March 8. The duty keyholder(s) are already scheduled to do one on March 3 and duty keyholders are only asked to do one night per week.

We need staffing for:
March 5 (Channel 19 star party at Powell)
March 7 (off site science night at school in Mission, member Bill Thomson needs help)
March 8 star party at Powell for 50 people. We could use 3 or 4 people.
                        


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David - I could do March 8th at Powell.  Let me know the particulars...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:56 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] star parties


We have 4 star parties booked for the duty week of March 2 - March 8. The
duty keyholder(s) are already scheduled to do one on March 3 and duty
keyholders are only asked to do one night per week.

We need staffing for:
March 5 (Channel 19 star party at Powell)
March 7 (off site science night at school in Mission, member Bill Thomson
needs help)
March 8 star party at Powell for 50 people. We could use 3 or 4 people.
                        


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I just booked another star party at Powell. This one is April 19 at 8:30 for 40 girl scouts. Tim Krystl and Mike Larkin have the duty that night but I'm sure would like some more people.

If anyone has any Astronomy Day plans, other organization's star parties, ASKC functions planned, etc., please let me know so I can attempt to avoid scheduling a big group on a conflicting night.

Anyone have the definite date for Astronomy Day, the ASKC summer star party, etc.?


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ASKC annual starparty  is June 13-16.
DH
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:48 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] star party


  I just booked another star party at Powell. This one is April 19 at 8:30 for 40 girl scouts. Tim Krystl and Mike Larkin have the duty that night but I'm sure would like some more people.

  If anyone has any Astronomy Day plans, other organization's star parties, ASKC functions planned, etc., please let me know so I can attempt to avoid scheduling a big group on a conflicting night.

  Anyone have the definite date for Astronomy Day, the ASKC summer star party, etc.?


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How long did she sit there?
Dick


-----Original Message-----
From: gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] the planets


How about "My very elegant mother just sat upon nine porcupines"

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] the planets


Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

Someone I know wants to know...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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Not long!  Thanks, everyone.  I have overwhelmed my contact at Boeing who
wondered what that saying was....

Let's not forget the Occultation of Saturn tomorrow night around 6:30!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	dtrent [mailto:dtrent@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 19, 2002 1:11 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	RE: [ASKC] the planets

How long did she sit there?
Dick

Make that time 5:48 PM tomorrow night, when Saturn starts disappearing....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

-----Original Message-----
From:	NASA Science News [mailto:snglist@...] 
Sent:	Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:12 AM
To:	NASA Science News
Subject:	Vanishing Saturn

NASA Science News for February 19, 2002
The lovely ringed planet Saturn will vanish behind Earth's moon on
Wednesday, Feb. 20th. During the event, some astronomers will be watching
carefully for telltale signs of Saturn's "lost ring."
FULL STORY at
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/19feb_gonesaturn.htm?list522510

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  ASKC annual starparty  is June 13-16.
  DH


  Cool. I booked a star party for June 15 last December. I'll need a several people to handle 150 girl scouts at Camp Timberlake.


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David:    Yes I'm out there somewhere. Would like to
make the suggestion that the remaining NASA-Grant
money be spent to purchase a second drive motor for
the dome. Let me know what you think about the
idea..............      Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> Testing, testing....Is Bill Boyle out there
> somewhere?
> 
> 
> Hmmm...I wondered why the mouse wasn't working all
> of a sudden. I must remember to put the cell phone
> somewhere else ;-)
> 
> 
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> 
> 


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Boyle 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 4:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] bill are you out there?


  David:    Yes I'm out there somewhere. 

  Bill, Please furnish me with a private e-mail address
  I have you paired with David Brackey for a star party on March 3. David has the details.


  Would like to
  make the suggestion that the remaining NASA-Grant
  money be spent to purchase a second drive motor for
  the dome. Let me know what you think about the
  idea..............   

  I think that would get us in BIG trouble as it is maintenance of existing equipment and not related to the NEO program.  Nice thought though.


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Here is a notice from one of our members on the IOTA occultation group, 
which concerns ALL Yahoogroup people. Please make sure you take the survey 
to stop any action of making YOUR yahoogroup another means of picking your 
pocket!

>Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:32:18 -0800
>From: Scotty Henderson <scotty.henderson@...>
>Subject: OFF TOPIC but important Yahoo shennanigans
>
>Dear All
>
>This came to me from another list and seems like worth our American 
>members doing the survey so
>Yahoo doesn't curtail services or (gasp) start charging.
>
>Scotty Henderson
>
>
>As you know, Yahoo Groups
>  has been free of charge since its inception.
>Yahoo is now considering charging for its e-lists and YahooGroups and/or
>drastically limiting the services it makes available to YahooGroup
>subscribers.
>
>This will be devastating to a number of online communities who do not
>wish to charge fees for YahooGroup services, and do not wish to limit
>existing services such as archived messages, files, bookmarks, and the
>like.
>
>I have already taken Yahoo's survey,  and I wholeheartedly encourage
>everyone to do the same, especially if you do not want services to be
>reduced or charges to be levied.  If we do not let Yahoo hear our voices
>now, decisions by Yahoo will certainly be made without our input!
>
>Therefore, please take a few minutes to complete this survey at
>http://promo2.yahoo.com/sbin/Groups/survey.cgi
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>
>P.S.  Please pass this along to any other Yahoo!Groups which you
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  Here is a notice from one of our members on the IOTA occultation group, 
  which concerns ALL Yahoogroup people. Please make sure you take the survey 
  to stop any action of making YOUR yahoogroup another means of picking your 
  pocket!

  The survey had expired. If yahoo starts charging we will just have to find another venue. Maybe we can find one that doesn't tag ads onto every message.


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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
>   The survey had expired. If yahoo starts charging we will just 
have to find another venue. Maybe we can find one that doesn't tag 
ads onto every message.

Probably a sleezy tactic.....It had to have been up for only 1 or 2 
days at most. Also, why did not they make this available to ALL list 
members? As a list owner, I never received the mailing. I guess they 
figure with low numbers of input (send to a few, and make it time 
sensitive), they can do as they damn well please....
I maintain the IOTA group which has 181 members worldwide with an 
average of 100-150 postings per month . It is an INVALUABLE service, 
which if is either terminated or made chargeable will devastate the 
communication link. The site is used to post information not shown on 
the website (I can't do it all), as an alert list, and to discuss 
equipment issues (video has been really hot lately).
If anyone is aware of any other types of maillists, let me know. At 
least I know I will have an alternative if the worst comes down the 
pike. 

Not very long!

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: dtrent [mailto:dtrent@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:11 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] the planets


How long did she sit there?
Dick


-----Original Message-----
From: gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] the planets


How about "My very elegant mother just sat upon nine porcupines"

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:19 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] the planets


Hello out there, fellow ASKCr's....

What is at least one of the phrases school children are taught to remember
the order of the planets?  I remember... My Very Elegant Mother....and can't
recall the rest!  And, there are other phrases...?

Someone I know wants to know...

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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Just a reminder to make everyone feel a little more warm and fuzzy....

The ASKCOnline.org website has the ability to handle mail lists similar to
the ASKC yahoogroups.  It would be able to handle the sending and
distributing of messages to group members in the event that Yahoo failed to
continue as an option.  I don't think it should be introduced as a
substitute unless Yahoogroups goes away.  It can't do the file upload
functions the same way, or the picture posting the same way either.... (yet)

Just a note to make sure nobody panics.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Fwd: OFF TOPIC but important Yahoo shennanigans
Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2002, 1:40 AM


--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
>   The survey had expired. If yahoo starts charging we will just
have to find another venue. Maybe we can find one that doesn't tag
ads onto every message.

Probably a sleezy tactic.....It had to have been up for only 1 or 2
days at most. Also, why did not they make this available to ALL list
members? As a list owner, I never received the mailing. I guess they
figure with low numbers of input (send to a few, and make it time
sensitive), they can do as they damn well please....
I maintain the IOTA group which has 181 members worldwide with an
average of 100-150 postings per month . It is an INVALUABLE service,
which if is either terminated or made chargeable will devastate the
communication link. The site is used to post information not shown on
the website (I can't do it all), as an alert list, and to discuss
equipment issues (video has been really hot lately).
If anyone is aware of any other types of maillists, let me know. At
least I know I will have an alternative if the worst comes down the
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I caught Ikeya-Zhang on the 18th. It is sporting a faint forked tail and at 
least looks like a nice comet now. Looking through my pics, I found that I 
had imaged it earlier on the 6th  just 5 days after discovery but I thought 
it was a bright star and since it did not have a tail, I did not identify it. 
The picture is attached. I also took pictures with red, blue, green and 
infrared filter and will post them soon at 
  http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm
in the next few days. If it brightens and when linear wm1 comes back up and 
if it stays under 6 will have two nice comets. 

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
Member, Astronomical Society of Kansas City (ASKC)- Solar System Ambassador 
2002- JPL-(Jet Propulsion Lab) 


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David,

Is the star party (4/20) you mentioned at the board meeting the same one
that you are posting know for (4/19)?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star party


  David,

  Is the star party (4/20) you mentioned at the board meeting the same one
  that you are posting know for (4/19)?

  Yes, just to keep me on my toes, the lady called yesteday afternoon and changed it. This is one for 40 girl scouts at Powell.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vic & Jen Winter 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Fwd: OFF TOPIC but important Yahoo shennanigans


  Just a reminder to make everyone feel a little more warm and fuzzy....

  Thanks for the offer Jen! I hope Yahoo doesn't try to screw everyone. They might be in for a shocker when all that ad revenue dries up as everyone runs for alternate services.


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Go take a look at this article:  http://www.msnbc.com/news/711116.asp#BODY
<http://www.msnbc.com/news/711116.asp#BODY> 

It's looking more like this will be quite a comet!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

astronomy day

Schlagle environmental library star party on April 19
Students, schools, parents invited- presentations and telescope

I am getting some flyers ready. If you want more information contact me
Dr.Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...) although it was previously posted here I will post again as well

I sent some Royal Canadian handbooks to Powell last Saturday with David Neunschwander. Did any of you pick up a copy?

Did anyone see any of them?

If they are still there I'll gather them up again and bring them to the meeting next week.

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David had them with him. It was my impression that he was taking them home
and would bring them to the meeting Saturday.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:19 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] handbooks


I sent some Royal Canadian handbooks to Powell last Saturday with David
Neunschwander. Did any of you pick up a copy?

Did anyone see any of them?

If they are still there I'll gather them up again and bring them to the
meeting next week.

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testing

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Thursday is RSO day. Joe Wright and I will be going out to rummage for goodies in the afternoon. If anyone wants to come with us, drop me a note or a call.

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David,
I will be there
Tim Kristl

  David,
  I will be there
  Tim Kristl


  Where?  Timberlake on June 15 or at the ASKC star party?

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Anyone have a clue where I should look for the software for the ST-4 camera we're trying to sell?


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David, If you don't find it, it is aviable from the SBIG web
site. There are some updates to our other SBIG camera
as well.

                                                                    Gil
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:46 AM
Subject: [ASKC] st-4


: Anyone have a clue where I should look for the software for the ST-4
camera we're trying to sell?
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Nick has a similar ST-4 and the software. We are going to check out the ASKC unit this weekend. He also has a nice case to put it in.

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I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to find
a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
take a look at:

http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
<http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html> 

Way, way, cool, Tom!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

Say, congratualtions to Bob Sandy and Tom Martinez for thier great shots that appear on Spaceweather website! Great going!!
Dave Hudgins
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'askc@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:00 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to find
  a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
  take a look at:

  http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
  <http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html> 

  Way, way, cool, Tom!

          Jackie Beucher
  EMJ - Kansas City - Sales


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Uh... Dave... unless Bob moved to Roanoke County Virginia, it's not our
Bob...  <g>

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:54 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.

Say, congratualtions to Bob Sandy and Tom Martinez for thier great shots
that appear on Spaceweather website! Great going!!
Dave Hudgins
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'askc@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:00 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to
find
  a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
  take a look at:

  http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
  <http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html> 

  Way, way, cool, Tom!

          Jackie Beucher
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I'm always amazed at what can be captured with a digital camera. Tom always
does a superb job. Kudos, Tom.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>
To: <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:00 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


> I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to
find
> a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
> take a look at:
>
> http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
> <http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html>
>
> Way, way, cool, Tom!
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
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>

I don't think the Robert Sandy listed on the Space Weather site is our same
Bob Sandy... That fello is listed with a Virginia homestate.

    I'm sure our Bob Sandy does great work, but just not those images.
I've seen the other gentlemans' work there many times.  He is quite active
in astro-imaging.

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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From: Dave Hudgins <dhudgins@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.
Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 7:53 PM


Say, congratualtions to Bob Sandy and Tom Martinez for thier great shots
that appear on Spaceweather website! Great going!!
Dave Hudgins
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Beucher, Jackie
  To: 'askc@yahoogroups.com'
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:00 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to
find
  a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
  take a look at:

  http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
  <http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html>

  Way, way, cool, Tom!

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Oh-oh, another Bob Sandy out there, huh?  I looked at the image instead of closely at the address, heh-heh!  My mistake!  Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vic & Jen Winter 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC]The real Bob Sandy


  I don't think the Robert Sandy listed on the Space Weather site is our same
  Bob Sandy... That fello is listed with a Virginia homestate.

      I'm sure our Bob Sandy does great work, but just not those images.
  I've seen the other gentlemans' work there many times.  He is quite active
  in astro-imaging.

  Clear Skies,
  Jen Winter - Owner
  (913) 432-4636

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  www.astroleague.org
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  www.AstronomicalTours.net
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  www.icstars.com/southernskies


  ----------
  From: Dave Hudgins <dhudgins@...>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.
  Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2002, 7:53 PM


  Say, congratualtions to Bob Sandy and Tom Martinez for thier great shots
  that appear on Spaceweather website! Great going!!
  Dave Hudgins
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Beucher, Jackie
    To: 'askc@yahoogroups.com'
    Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:00 PM
    Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


    I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to
  find
    a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
    take a look at:

    http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
    <http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html>

    Way, way, cool, Tom!

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Joe, Gil and David are headed to RSO right now. If you want to come call me on the cell at 913-558-1155


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Jackie, David  Jim:  Thanks for the kudos.  The pic also made
http://www.space.com and I was asked by Astronomy Picture of the Day
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html for permission to use the
picture also, so it may show up there sometime soon.

I almost didn't get the picture.  Gloria and I arrived at Powell about an
hour before it started (David Young and Joe Wright were there taking the ST4
off the 30"), but as I was getting my camera attached to my homemade
adapter, I realized I was missing an important piece to the adapter, so we
drove back home, got the part, but by the time we got back to Powell I had
missed the first part of the occultation.

I messed around with Joe collimating the 30" (we found that the secondary
was rotated slightly) and by the time I got the scope on the Moon and the
camera on the focuser I realized I forgot where Saturn was going to come out
from behind the Moon.  I seemed to recall it was on the north side, so I set
it there and started shooting at 7:01 p.m.  I got lucky!

Tom

--- In ASKC@y..., Vic & Jen Winter <webmaster@i...> wrote:
> I don't think the Robert Sandy listed on the Space Weather site is 
our same
> Bob Sandy... That fello is listed with a Virginia homestate.
>     I'm sure our Bob Sandy does great work, but just not those 
images.
> I've seen the other gentlemans' work there many times.  He is quite 
active
> in astro-imaging.

Both Bobs correspond quite a bit. The other Bob is a Robert M Sandy, 
who I believe our Bob said was a school teacher by profession. They 
occasionally get each other's emails mixed up by someone doing an 
email search for Robert Sandy and getting the addresses mixed.

Rob

Hey Tom, nice shots of the occultation. Good job as usual.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:JBeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:01 PM
To: 'askc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [ASKC] Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


I was looking for some pictures, and went to spaceweather.com - only to find
a really cool set of pictures taken by the one-and-only, Tom Martinez!  Go
take a look at:

http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html
<http://www.spaceweather.com/planets/gallery_20feb02.html>

Way, way, cool, Tom!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales







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No goodies at RMC (rso) today Gil

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Tom:

Nice work! Guess you knew which side of the moon Saturn was going to 
pop out on. :-) I didn't see the beginning of the occultation, and 
also didn't check any info in Sky and Telescope, or anything. 
Somehow, I had the idea Saturn was going to emerge from the dark side 
of the moon (which is really stupid, I know, but I haven't watched 
too many occultations).

Anyway, here I am peering through the 101 and chatting with Elly. I 
had the time at 7:01:11 and when I hadn't said it had emerged by 7:02 
she asked whether it wasn't out already or not. I looked over to the 
bright side and the darn thing had already emerged! I'm going to have 
to study celestial mechanics a bit more...   :-)

Fiske

Fiske, you do my heart good today.  We've all been in similar situations, in
areas of astronomy where we are a little foggy....  Thanks for sharing!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	fiskem3 [mailto:FiskeM3@...] 
Sent:	Friday, February 22, 2002 7:54 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.

Tom:

Nice work! Guess you knew which side of the moon Saturn was going to 
pop out on. :-) I didn't see the beginning of the occultation, and 
also didn't check any info in Sky and Telescope, or anything. 
Somehow, I had the idea Saturn was going to emerge from the dark side 
of the moon (which is really stupid, I know, but I haven't watched 
too many occultations).

Anyway, here I am peering through the 101 and chatting with Elly. I 
had the time at 7:01:11 and when I hadn't said it had emerged by 7:02 
she asked whether it wasn't out already or not. I looked over to the 
bright side and the darn thing had already emerged! I'm going to have 
to study celestial mechanics a bit more...   :-)

Fiske





 

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In light of recent revelations and confessions, I just have to share a couple with the rest of you. I was a participant in both incidents. The names of the other boobs are withheld to protect the retarded.

One evening, some of your club's highly skilled and technically adept astronomer types were utilizing high end computers, a very expensive charge coupled device camera, and a large computer controlled telescope to search for hazards to humanity. After a number of successful observations of three objects, efforts to image a 4th were met with snowy computer screens.  A length it was concluded by the observers that there are very few stars or other interesting celestial objects actually residing on the inside of the dome. It seems that the dome does not rotate automatically when the telescope slews. 


On another evening, several other highly skilled and techincally adept astronomer types were putting the finishing touches on the electronic level. In due course it was time to test the alignment and see if the telescope would actually slew to the first object with the desired pointing accuracy. The computer was turned on, the dome was rotated and the shutters opened. The moment of truth arrived and after carefull leveling with the new gizmo, the telescope was sent to an object easily seen visually through the open shutter. Alas, the observer on the ladder reported nothing was visible through the eyepiece. In due course, all present concluded that even the light from something as bright as Jupiter could not penetrate the metal front cover of the telescope.

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Hi All,

I was not present for the first incident that David reported on. I do 
want to report that we have a good light seal on the telescope when 
the front cover is on and that ladder climbing difficulty 
is directly proportional to the degree of comedy of a given incident. 
Let's be careful out there!!

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick 

Glad I wasn't the only one who botched it. 8^)

Keep looking up,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "fiskem3" <FiskeM3@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


> Tom:
>
> Nice work! Guess you knew which side of the moon Saturn was going to
> pop out on. :-) I didn't see the beginning of the occultation, and
> also didn't check any info in Sky and Telescope, or anything.
> Somehow, I had the idea Saturn was going to emerge from the dark side
> of the moon (which is really stupid, I know, but I haven't watched
> too many occultations).
>
> Anyway, here I am peering through the 101 and chatting with Elly. I
> had the time at 7:01:11 and when I hadn't said it had emerged by 7:02
> she asked whether it wasn't out already or not. I looked over to the
> bright side and the darn thing had already emerged! I'm going to have
> to study celestial mechanics a bit more...   :-)
>
> Fiske
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Hurah TOM!!!!!    YEAH!!!!!!

Everybody go look!  Tom got NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day!
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Great going, Tom!  So was it worth going back to get the part you forgot at
home?

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ahhhh yes...   and of course, how many of us have spent a night in the AIC imaging and wondering why we can't hit 14th magnitude all night long ......  only to realize several hours later that the Hartman mask was still in place.

>>> dyoung8@... 02/22/02 11:37AM >>>
In light of recent revelations and confessions, I just have to share a couple with the rest of you. I was a participant in both incidents. The names of the other boobs are withheld to protect the retarded.

One evening, some of your club's highly skilled and technically adept astronomer types were utilizing high end computers, a very expensive charge coupled device camera, and a large computer controlled telescope to search for hazards to humanity. After a number of successful observations of three objects, efforts to image a 4th were met with snowy computer screens.  A length it was concluded by the observers that there are very few stars or other interesting celestial objects actually residing on the inside of the dome. It seems that the dome does not rotate automatically when the telescope slews. 


On another evening, several other highly skilled and techincally adept astronomer types were putting the finishing touches on the electronic level. In due course it was time to test the alignment and see if the telescope would actually slew to the first object with the desired pointing accuracy. The computer was turned on, the dome was rotated and the shutters opened. The moment of truth arrived and after carefull leveling with the new gizmo, the telescope was sent to an object easily seen visually through the open shutter. Alas, the observer on the ladder reported nothing was visible through the eyepiece. In due course, all present concluded that even the light from something as bright as Jupiter could not penetrate the metal front cover of the telescope.

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At 02:42 PM 2/22/02 -0600, you wrote:
>Yikes!
>Tom Martinez's photos of the Lunar occultation of Saturn on Feb. 20 are on 
>Astronomy Photo of the Day. In the description of the photo, there is a 
>link to www.askconline.org/powell.htm where there is a list of last year's 
>public night programs with a statement that public programs are only on 
>the first and third Saturdays. Just thought I'd point that out in case you 
>wanted to put that toward the top of list of things to update. I'm sure 
>it's a long list.

The new 2002 program schedule is now uploaded to the ASKC website.
Calendar for March coming this weekend.....



====================================
Rob Robinson
Bonner Springs KS
ASKC Webmaster
http://www.askconline.org
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Tom,
Congratulations on your photo of the day on the NASA website.
What an outstanding result.  It's amazing the versatility of the 
digitial cameras. 

Looks like the ASKC website was linked as well, which is good PR for 
the Club.

Carroll

--- In ASKC@y..., "Tom Martinez" <martinez@s...> wrote:
> Jackie, David  Jim:  Thanks for the kudos.  The pic also made
> http://www.space.com and I was asked by Astronomy Picture of the Day
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html for permission to 
use the
> picture also, so it may show up there sometime soon.
> 
> I almost didn't get the picture.  Gloria and I arrived at Powell 
about an
> hour before it started (David Young and Joe Wright were there 
taking the ST4
> off the 30"), but as I was getting my camera attached to my homemade
> adapter, I realized I was missing an important piece to the 
adapter, so we
> drove back home, got the part, but by the time we got back to 
Powell I had
> missed the first part of the occultation.
> 
> I messed around with Joe collimating the 30" (we found that the 
secondary
> was rotated slightly) and by the time I got the scope on the Moon 
and the
> camera on the focuser I realized I forgot where Saturn was going to 
come out
> from behind the Moon.  I seemed to recall it was on the north side, 
so I set
> it there and started shooting at 7:01 p.m.  I got lucky!
> 
> Tom

it there and started shooting at 7:01 p.m.  I got lucky!
> 
> Tom

I'm always surprised at how "lucky" someone who works with diligence and skill can be. Your photos aren't lucky Tom, they're the result of talent and effort!

Really nice sequence!

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Thanks everyone for the congrats!  I especially like being on APOD.  It's
kinda like hiking up a mountain all day and finally making it to the top.
The view is exhilarating!  Vic & Jen should know what I mean since they've
had a few pics selected to APOD in the past.

Fiske:  Glad to hear you could share an embaressing moment with us.  I had
to chuckle.  Not at you, but with you.  Like David Young says, there are few
stars on the inside of the dome.  It seems that I was also trying to
photograh that blue dome.  Sometime after shooting the Moon and Saturn and
while I was experimenting shooting the planet with different modes on the
camera, David walked in and asked if I was intentionally trying to cover
half the scopes aperture.  In the excitement of the moment I had forgot to
move the dome.  I was wondering why the exposures were getting longer!

David:  I still feel lucky I got the picture.  So many times Murphy has
messed up my efforts.  A long time ago I found out that the only thing that
keeps him at bay is to just keep trying.

Here it is, a little after the Jupiter-Moon conjunction, and its totally
overcast.  Murphy is at it again.

Tom

>It seems that I was also trying to photograh that blue dome.  

Boy, you ratted yourself out. I didn't even tell Gloria;-) We just came in from dinner out and noticed it was pretty fuzzy. Another time. That camera of yours is pretty slick. I need to get a replacement for one that was stolen and I've been agonizing over getting another Elf or getting a larger one with more pixels. The Elf was nice and small and took some nice shots but the features on a larger camera are sure tempting.

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David:
I'll tell you a little secret.  If you are thinking of using the camera at
the telescope, you need one with a small enough lens opening, otherwise the
image vignettes quite a bit, even with large 2" eyepieces.  Ask Larry Goode.
His Olympus digital camera lens is much larger than mine, probably because
of the longer telephoto.  My Nikon measures 1" and its an f/2.6 lens.  It
also lets me shoot for 1 minute, so I can get a fair amount of stars (pics
of what it can do will be on my website when it gets online sometime soon).

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
>
That camera of yours is pretty slick. I need to get a replacement for one
that was stolen and I've been agonizing over getting another Elf or getting
a larger one with more pixels. The Elf was nice and small and took some nice
shots but the features on a larger camera are sure tempting.
>

Changes are in process on the ASKC website.
Some are subtle, some are obvious.........
If you haven't been there for awhile, take a look.
More changes coming within the next several weeks....
Stay tuned.

Rob
ASKC Webmaster

Just a reminder. The February meeting of the Astronomical Society of Kansas
City is tonight at 7:00 p.m. at Royall Hall on the UMKC campus. Our speaker
this evening is Nagin Cox, a NASA engineer. Several of us have heard Nagin
speak before and I'm sure you'll enjoy her program. She worked on the
Galileo mission to Jupiter from 1995 until 2000 when she transferred to the
Mars Rover team. This is your opportunity to speak with a NASA insider.
Don't miss it! I'll see you there.


Clear skies,

Gary Pittman

--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:

> 
> One evening, some of your club's highly skilled and technically 
adept astronomer types were utilizing high end computers, a very 
expensive charge coupled device camera, and a large computer 
controlled telescope to search for hazards to humanity. After a 
number of successful observations of three objects, efforts to image 
a 4th were met with snowy computer screens.  A length it was 
concluded by the observers that there are very few stars or other 
interesting celestial objects actually residing on the inside of the 
dome. It seems that the dome does not rotate automatically when the 
telescope slews. 
> 
> 
Sounds like I would fit right in. :-)

Fiske

--- In ASKC@y..., "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> ahhhh yes...   and of course, how many of us have spent a night in 
the AIC imaging and wondering why we can't hit 14th magnitude all 
night long ......  only to realize several hours later that the 
Hartman mask was still in place.

I sense the making of a fine Cosmic Messenger article here. Scott? 
Dave? Anyone? :-)

Fiske

I sense the making of a fine Cosmic Messenger article here. Scott? 
Dave? Anyone? :-)

Sounds like a good idea to me. Now we need someone to relate the tail of the observatory ghost.

How about the time that someone was up on the ladder and asked "where's the milk carton" only to be asked, "I don't know, what constellationis it in?" I guess you had to be there.

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Looking Good!

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:52 AM
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Website


> Changes are in process on the ASKC website.
> Some are subtle, some are obvious.........
> If you haven't been there for awhile, take a look.
> More changes coming within the next several weeks....
> Stay tuned.
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 Greetings
I caught a picture of comet Ikeya- Zhang (usingf red filter) on Feb 18,2002 
with and got a surprise bonus. 
In the upper left is the brighter ISS, another trail parallel to it, is soyuz 
TM33, I believe by my calculations. It looks like the space shuttle parallel 
to the ISS definitely not as bright,  up from the ISS. 
I used starry night to show me the time and could see the ISS and soyuz 
flying past the comet so I think that what I caught. An unexpected prize. 
There is also another faint trail but I am not sure what it is.
The directions to get to the displays are on ofoto imaging site. Follow the 
link below either by clicking or putting in browser.  You are not required to 
sign up to enter. The first image that pops up is the enlarged image of the 
comet and space vehicles.

In the album is also a picture of Ikeya-Zhang on 02/18 with clear (nice 
whispy little tail and pictures taken with other filters (green, red, blue, 
infrared). Also shots of the recent Saturn moon occulation. (unfortunetly I 
forgot to use the grey filter to lessen the moon's brightness) :(

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com
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2002- JPL-(Jet Propulsion Lab) 
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It's easy to view my new photo album.  Just go to the 
Web page below.
<A HREF="http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=35587644303&n=255065682">
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=35587644303&n=255065682</A>

When you get to Ofoto, you may be asked to register 
or sign in. To register, just fill out the form, then 
click on Join to take advantage of great Ofoto services. 
To sign in, simply use your Ofoto log in and password. 

Folks, 

We have a scout group of about 25 scheduled of Tuesday evening March 5...this is the Channel 19 bidder for our starparty. I can do the talk and run the telescope if necessary..but really need at least one more to help...maybe with a telescope?Or.. I can bring my 10" dob if you can show the kids stuff, or operate the 30" and I will do the dob tour. Anyway...any help out there for a couple hours Tuesday?

Dave Hudgins


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David:  I can help you out by using the 16" outside, or run the 30" if you
like.

Tom Martinez

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
To: "ASKC Club" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Help for Tuesday March 5 Scout Group?


> Folks,
>
> We have a scout group of about 25 scheduled of Tuesday evening March
5...this is the Channel 19 bidder for our starparty. I can do the talk and
run the telescope if necessary..but really need at least one more to
help...maybe with a telescope?Or.. I can bring my 10" dob if you can show
the kids stuff, or operate the 30" and I will do the dob tour. Anyway...any
help out there for a couple hours Tuesday?
>
> Dave Hudgins
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The ST-4 camera has been cleaned, tested, and packaged. It has the control box, camera head, software, manuals and cables packaged in a foam lined case. The case will be overpacked in a cardboard container for shipping.


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Yo Tom....or anyone with a Nikon digital camera

I'm having a hell of a time figuring out this darn Cumulus software that comes with the Nikon cameras. Are you using it? I gave up last night and started using the software that came with the Canon. at least I can sort the photos with the Canon browser without having to go through them one at a time witth photoshop. Nikon must have a better way.


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Dave,

    I don't have a cool-pix camera, but have used Cumulus.  I think I know
somebody else who is very near to you who may have encountered it in her job
in the graphic arts and publishing field.   It is a program that has been in
use for many years in sorting graphic files for publishers.  The pro version
I used was rather complex.  Maybe the home version is better, but I tried it
for my own private use and gave up.   Marcia may have some insight, though.

    Anyone else?

Clear Skies,
Jen Winter - Owner
(913) 432-4636

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www.icstars.com/southernskies


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From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Nikon camera
Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2002, 2:48 PM


Yo Tom....or anyone with a Nikon digital camera

I'm having a hell of a time figuring out this darn Cumulus software that
comes with the Nikon cameras. Are you using it? I gave up last night and
started using the software that came with the Canon. at least I can sort the
photos with the Canon browser without having to go through them one at a
time witth photoshop. Nikon must have a better way.


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When Adobe Type Manager (ATM) is installed in Windows 95, fonts that have only an italic or bold outline, like ExPonto or Stencil, are not affected if you apply italic or bold styling to them. For example, in PageMaker 6.0, when you applied italic to an italic-only font, the result was a more italicized version of the italic font. This no longer occurs in PageMaker 6.5.

When an outline does not exist for a selected style of some fonts (bold, italic, etc.) and a synthetic style is printed, the displayed ATM substitution may not match the PageMaker synthesized font. To more closely match output, disable Font Substitution in ATM's Settings dialog box.


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  Thank you for sharing. Did I miss something?


  When Adobe Type Manager (ATM) is installed in Windows 95, fonts that have only an italic or bold outline, like ExPonto or Stencil, are not affected if you apply italic or bold styling to them. For example, in PageMaker 6.0, when you applied italic to an italic-only font, the result was a more italicized version of the italic font. This no longer occurs in PageMaker 6.5.

  When an outline does not exist for a selected style of some fonts (bold, italic, etc.) and a synthetic style is printed, the displayed ATM substitution may not match the PageMaker synthesized font. To more closely match output, disable Font Substitution in ATM's Settings dialog box.


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  SETTING UP POSTSCRIPT PRINTERS IN WINDOWS 95

  For best results printing to a PostScript printer from PageMaker 6.5 for Windows 95, install both the Adobe PostScript 4.1.1 driver for Windows 95 and ATM 4.0 from the PageMaker CD-ROM.




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Ron,

Guess I missed it too... should I have kept Windows 95 around?

Vic

At 04:53 PM 2/25/02 -0600, you wrote:

>   Thank you for sharing. Did I miss something?
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>   When Adobe Type Manager (ATM) is installed in Windows 95, fonts that 
> have only an italic or bold outline, like ExPonto or Stencil, are not 
> affected if you apply italic or bold styling to them. For example, in 
> PageMaker 6.0, when you applied italic to an italic-only font, the result 
> was a more italicized version of the italic font. This no longer occurs 
> in PageMaker 6.5.
>
>   When an outline does not exist for a selected style of some fonts 
> (bold, italic, etc.) and a synthetic style is printed, the displayed ATM 
> substitution may not match the PageMaker synthesized font. To more 
> closely match output, disable Font Substitution in ATM's Settings dialog box.
>
>
> 
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>   SETTING UP POSTSCRIPT PRINTERS IN WINDOWS 95
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> for Windows 95, install both the Adobe PostScript 4.1.1 driver for 
> Windows 95 and ATM 4.0 from the PageMaker CD-ROM.
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David:  Does this mean you now have a Coopix?  Whick one did you get?

I learned how to use the Cumulus software, it's a way to store and
catagorize images, but after I started using it, I found out that its not
the full blown version and I was limited to how pics I could store, so I
don't use it anymore.  They expect you to buy the full blown version, I
guess.  Not me, especially when they wasted my time on a limited piece of
software.

There is another one viewer by Ipix on the same CD.  I haven't tried that
one yet.

I mainly use the Nikon View 4 software to scan over the images in a large
thumbnail.  If I want to view it larger I can zoom it into full view or
anything inbetween.  I also delete the ones I don't want to keep before I
transfer them to the hard drive on the computer.

Tom

Rosemary Abbott asked me to post this note.  Beware of any e-mails from Ron and Rosemary Abbott. Possible virus. 


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    There are strange sounds that are heard about the observatory. One can
be in the dome and could swear that they have heard a car door open and
shut. After a while,  when nobody enters the classroom, you go check the
frontdoor and find it still shut and no other car in the lot.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:26 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.



  I sense the making of a fine Cosmic Messenger article here. Scott?
  Dave? Anyone? :-)

  Sounds like a good idea to me. Now we need someone to relate the tail of
the observatory ghost.

  How about the time that someone was up on the ladder and asked "where's
the milk carton" only to be asked, "I don't know, what constellationis it
in?" I guess you had to be there.

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    Who has the virus? The computer or the Abbotts? I just read an email
about font size and windows 95.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:15 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] virus


  Rosemary Abbott asked me to post this note.  Beware of any e-mails from
Ron and Rosemary Abbott. Possible virus.


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--- In ASKC@y..., "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
>     There are strange sounds that are heard about the observatory. 
One can
> be in the dome and could swear that they have heard a car door open 
and
> shut. After a while,  when nobody enters the classroom, you go 
check the
> frontdoor and find it still shut and no other car in the lot.

Maybe that's the racoons coming down from the barren concession 
area, checking YOUR car out for midnight snacks (grin)

Anyone going to Baker U on Thursday?

Joe

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:15 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Thursday


  Anyone going to Baker U on Thursday?

  It could happen. Call me sometime and we'll chat about it.

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Sounds like Ron and Rosemary think they may have a virus that spreads via
e-mail.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Thompson [mailto:randythm@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:33 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] virus


    Who has the virus? The computer or the Abbotts? I just read an email
about font size and windows 95.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:15 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] virus


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Hey Randy, welcome to the ASKC yahoogroups.

Tom

I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
at:

http://www.sky.net/~martinez/

Tom Martinez

You can download it from SBIG
Tim

I knew your website would have some good pictures Tom.  Nice job.  
We want more!

rett





> I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
> at:
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> http://www.sky.net/~martinez/
> 
> Tom Martinez

Cool site Tom. How did I know it would have something to do with
photography?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:19 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New Website


I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
at:

http://www.sky.net/~martinez/

Tom Martinez







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Tom, very very nice!  Do you use Dreamscape or what to build your websites?
Dave H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martinez <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: [ASKC] New Website


> I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
> at:
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> http://www.sky.net/~martinez/
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> Tom Martinez
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Very nice. Can you e-mail me a copy of the time exposure you took o me at
the Polar Bear night at Powell?

Thanks in advance,

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: [ASKC] New Website


> I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
> at:
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> http://www.sky.net/~martinez/
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> Tom Martinez
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---- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Martinez 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:19 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] New Website


  I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
  at:

  Now you've gone and done it! I'm going to have to get a telescope or two back and try taking some photos with the Nikon. I should have paid more attention to the gizmo you rigged up to hold the camera at the eyepiece. How about posting a photo of it, assuming you don't intend to patent it ;-) I've got a lot of time on my hands lately and perhaps I can tinker up something similar.

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Many of you probably remember Hal Povenmire from the AL National 
Convention we had in Kansas City just recently.
I have been in contact will Hal, for many years, dating back to 1989 
when I first met him at TSP. Hal is a retired engineer from 
NASA, who worked on the Apollo missions, and still occasionally 
works for them as a consultant.
Over the years, I have been working with him on "lost grazes" dating 
back into the 1960's. Predictions weren't as readily available then, 
so I have been regenerating data for him on a regular basis. He is 
currently working on his 4th book, which is a "volume 2" to his first 
- "Graze Observer's Handbook". He also has 2 other books, "Tektites" 
and the other "Meteors, Fireballs & Meteorites" (see amazon.com). 

So, on with the story......
He called me last night and we chatted for about an hour. He is 
temporarily moving to Denver Colorado for the months of June, July 
and August. I thought at first he was possibly doing some more 
meteorite research (he will be in Kansas/Missouri area in May). BUT 
the reason he gave me was that during the summer months at the 
University of Wyoming, when the university is pretty much "dead", he 
is going to have unlimited use of the 2.3 meter Infrared Telescope 
located 25 miles SW of Laramie!

http://faraday.uwyo.edu/observatories/wiro/index.htm

Seems he has a friend there, and Hal was wanting him to do some 
follow up research on the asteroid named after him, (12753)Povenmire, 
discovered by Gene and Carolyn Shoemaker back on 4/18/93. The 
asteroid reaches opposition again this year on July 5th. His friend 
basically told him "hell no, if you want it done, get out here do it 
yourself", so Hal took him up on it. Hal of course is REALLY excited 
about this opportunity!

I told him after he gets finished there, that maybe this fall we 
could have him come up to KC to give us a talk on his experiences at 
the observatory and what all he did. His reply was, "just let me know 
when". SO, whoever the VP is next term....keep this in mind!

Rob

Thanks guys for your compliments.

David Hudgins:  I use Microsoft Publisher on most every thing.  The
icescapes however was done in with Photoshop.

Jim:  I'll get to your photo soon.

David Young:  Here are some photos of the adapter:
http://www.sky.net/~martinez/page6.html

Tom

A few weeks ago I heard someone talking about a program to make computer generated star clusters. Anyone know where I can download a copy of the program?

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If anyone is interested, I've posted some pictures of the S*T*D*I*F Banquet
on my website.
  Just click on the S*T*D*I*F.

Tom Martinez
http://www.sky.net/~martinez/

The web site is now essentially 99% finished on the 
updating and reorganzing.

If you haven't been there lately, take a look.
Remember that your browser is probably caching old pages, so be sure 
and do a reload on each page so that you are viewing the most 
current.

Again, comments, suggestions and ideas are greatly appreciated.

I want to thank the many people who sent photos, helped write 
annotations, and proof read before publishing. Some of these people 
are Tom Martinez, Rett Alonzi, Jackie Beucher, Dave Hudgins, Vic 
Winter. Again, thank for helping out.


Rob Robinson
ASKC Webmaster

Try Universe Image Creator at
www.diardsoftware.com

Kathy


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: [ASKC] globulars?


> A few weeks ago I heard someone talking about a program to make computer
generated star clusters. Anyone know where I can download a copy of the
program?

David:    Dave Brackey and myself will need an
overhead projector for the program we will be giving
at Powell Sunday night .Is the projector in the
classroom or located somewhere else????   Please
e-mail me as to how to locate it..... thanks;   Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
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David:    Dave Brackey and myself will need an
overhead projector for the program we will be giving
at Powell Sunday night .Is the projector in the
classroom or located somewhere else????   Please
e-mail me as to how to locate it..... thanks;   Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> A few weeks ago I heard someone talking about a
> program to make computer generated star clusters.
> Anyone know where I can download a copy of the
> program?
> 
The club's overhead projector is kept in the library at Royall Hall. I don't know if Jackie has one. Nick might also have one. Let me know if you locate one and how you got it so I will know when someone else needs one.

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For what it's worth, I have ONE of the club's overhead projectors.  I forgot
to bring it to the general meeting.  This one works good, too.  It's yours,
if you can get by to pick it up!

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	William Boyle [mailto:lostinspacebill@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:09 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: [ASKC] globulars?

David:    Dave Brackey and myself will need an
overhead projector for the program we will be giving
at Powell Sunday night .Is the projector in the
classroom or located somewhere else????   Please
e-mail me as to how to locate it..... thanks;   Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> A few weeks ago I heard someone talking about a
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        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:53 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] ASKC Website

The web site is now essentially 99% finished on the 
updating and reorganzing.

If you haven't been there lately, take a look.
Remember that your browser is probably caching old pages, so be sure 
and do a reload on each page so that you are viewing the most 
current.

Again, comments, suggestions and ideas are greatly appreciated.

I want to thank the many people who sent photos, helped write 
annotations, and proof read before publishing. Some of these people 
are Tom Martinez, Rett Alonzi, Jackie Beucher, Dave Hudgins, Vic 
Winter. Again, thank for helping out.


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I was looking for the list of recipients of observing awards and couldn't
find it. Did it get dropped, or am I just over looking it.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] ASKC Website


> Walt  -- Just totally awesome!  Very well done...  Major kudos.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:53 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Website
>
> The web site is now essentially 99% finished on the
> updating and reorganzing.
>
> If you haven't been there lately, take a look.
> Remember that your browser is probably caching old pages, so be sure
> and do a reload on each page so that you are viewing the most
> current.
>
> Again, comments, suggestions and ideas are greatly appreciated.
>
> I want to thank the many people who sent photos, helped write
> annotations, and proof read before publishing. Some of these people
> are Tom Martinez, Rett Alonzi, Jackie Beucher, Dave Hudgins, Vic
> Winter. Again, thank for helping out.
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The annual ASKC Star Party is scheduled for June 13-16, 2002. 3 
nights! This year's event will be held in the Flint Hills of Kansas on 
a 400 acre Bed and Breakfast overlooking a private 19 acre lake. Lots 
of room for camping and astro equipment. I spent 3 nights at this site 
last summer. Very dark skies! There's more, but it won't be announced 
until the March ASKC meeting and the April Cosmic messenger. That's 
all I'll say!  Dan Johnson

If for some reason a few of you can't make the ASKC star party......we have a group of 150 girl scouts scheduled at Camp Timberlake in Stilwell on June 15. We'll need 3 or 4 people to staff it.

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Jim,

The new web site does not have the award listings.  It was one of the items dropped when the page
was redesigned.  The feeling is that ordinary people from the outside world really don't know what
these awards are anyway.  So it was dropped to save space and time.

-Scott

Jim Ketchum wrote:
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> find it. Did it get dropped, or am I just over looking it.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beucher, Jackie" <JBeucher@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] ASKC Website
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> > Walt  -- Just totally awesome!  Very well done...  Major kudos.
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> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:53 PM
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Hello all. We have a busy week coming up.

Bill Boyle and David Brackey have a group at Powell on March 3
David Hudgins has the Channel 19 group at Powell on March 5         he could use some help

We have a possible night on March 6 that is not staffed. They will get back to me in the next day or so. I'll do it if no one else steps up.

Bill Thomson has a school science night on March 7               David Young will help

There is a paying group on March 8 that is not staffed.   Any takers?


A member has Powell reserved for March 9   Eric Flecher and Dennis Budd are the scheduled staff members.

Of course the Messier Marathon is on March 15 and March 16

There is a private group scheduled for March 26. Roger Gruenke and Debbie Harrelson are the scheduled staff members.



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David - March 8th is covered.  I volunteered, and so did Tom Martinez.  This
is David Nuwenshwander's group.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Friday, March 01, 2002 8:09 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] star parties

Hello all. We have a busy week coming up.

Bill Boyle and David Brackey have a group at Powell on March 3
David Hudgins has the Channel 19 group at Powell on March 5         he could
use some help

We have a possible night on March 6 that is not staffed. They will get back
to me in the next day or so. I'll do it if no one else steps up.

Bill Thomson has a school science night on March 7               David Young
will help

There is a paying group on March 8 that is not staffed.   Any takers?


A member has Powell reserved for March 9   Eric Flecher and Dennis Budd are
the scheduled staff members.

Of course the Messier Marathon is on March 15 and March 16

There is a private group scheduled for March 26. Roger Gruenke and Debbie
Harrelson are the scheduled staff members.



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Two more groups just booked. I have a star party for March 6 which I will do myself unless someone else is just dying to have a go at it.

I also have another scout group for March 12. Any takers?

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The wicked witch of the north has turned the city into a winter wonder land!

Then evil wizard of the west put a bunch of morons behind the wheels of vehicles.

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I take it your out and about. hmmmmm

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 6:52 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] It's white out


The wicked witch of the north has turned the city into a winter wonder land!

Then evil wizard of the west put a bunch of morons behind the wheels of
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Went to the airport at 4:30. Got to watch the demolition derby going both ways. No one hurt, just dumb asses sliding off into the ditch, spinning around and hitting barriers, stuff like that. All from getting in a hurry. 40 mph was just about right. 50 was putting em in the ditches.

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /Nutcase1.doc 
  Uploaded by : dyoung8us <dyoung8@...> 
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You can access this file at the URL

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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

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Regards,

dyoung8us <dyoung8@...>
 

I was rummaging through the hard drives in preparation for replacing one of them with a new 80 gig when I came upon this treasure. 

I received this in January of 1998. I don't recall if I ever shared this anyone else. I scanned it through an OCR programs so there are some anomalies but you can get the gist of the letter. You can tell by the file title what I thought of it. Your chance for enlightenment is at hand. If you need a few laughs just read this. Please let me know if you think we should alert the Noble committee. 

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Ummmm. the letter got stripped. Sounds interesting...just paste it in. We are all looking out the window at the White Stuff....brrrr!

Dave H.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:23 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] strange letter


  I was rummaging through the hard drives in preparation for replacing one of them with a new 80 gig when I came upon this treasure. 

  I received this in January of 1998. I don't recall if I ever shared this anyone else. I scanned it through an OCR programs so there are some anomalies but you can get the gist of the letter. You can tell by the file title what I thought of it. Your chance for enlightenment is at hand. If you need a few laughs just read this. Please let me know if you think we should alert the Noble committee. 

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David:  Mr. Crowley has read just enough science to make him totally
misunderstand the various subjects he writes about.  All he would have to do
is keep reading and studying to make him see where he has gone wrong.
Unfortunately, his type of personality only gets enough information to to
satisfy his personal theories and no more.  We tend to laugh at stuff like
this, but it's really more sad than funny.

Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: [ASKC] strange letter


> I was rummaging through the hard drives in preparation for replacing one
of them with a new 80 gig when I came upon this treasure.
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> I received this in January of 1998. I don't recall if I ever shared this
anyone else. I scanned it through an OCR programs so there are some
anomalies but you can get the gist of the letter. You can tell by the file
title what I thought of it. Your chance for enlightenment is at hand. If you
need a few laughs just read this. Please let me know if you think we should
alert the Noble committee.
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I hope everyone will look at the many great improvements that Rob has made to our club website! : ^)  Wow, many pics and revised narrative to provide great information about the club. Many thanks, Rob!

Check it out at www.askconline.org

Dave H.




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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Hudgins 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] strange letter


  Ummmm. the letter got stripped. Sounds interesting...just paste it in. We are all looking out the window at the White Stuff....brrrr!

  Yahoo always strips attachments to the e-group. I uploaded it to the askc file area. You really should try to get it. It's a hoot!

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David,

The really scarey thing is that your posting seems to imply that you
actually read the whole thing. Say it aint so!


John Anderson
anderiii@...
----- Original Message -----
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: [ASKC] strange letter


> I was rummaging through the hard drives in preparation for replacing one
of them with a new 80 gig when I came upon this treasure.
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Does look great. Nice job, Rob.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
To: "ASKC Club" <ASKC@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


> I hope everyone will look at the many great improvements that Rob has made
to our club website! : ^)  Wow, many pics and revised narrative to provide
great information about the club. Many thanks, Rob!
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I'm like you John. I read the first paragraph, scanned a few first sentences
of the next few paragraphs, and went on my way. I'd rather watch paint dry,
or count the albino brain chiggers falling outside.

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Anderson" <anderiii@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] strange letter


> David,
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> The really scarey thing is that your posting seems to imply that you
> actually read the whole thing. Say it aint so!
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> John Anderson
> anderiii@...
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> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Anderson 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] strange letter


  David,

  The really scarey thing is that your posting seems to imply that you
  actually read the whole thing. Say it aint so!


  I think I got to page 3 before my vision blurred from the laughter. I think by the time I got to the part about not being able to mix paint to make white I could see no reason to read much more. I do seem to recall reading something about killing people from orbit using a flashlight? I skipped to the back and found his grade card from high school and a summary of his secret paper stamping military career. Hey, this guy rode in a jeep and got a good conduct medal. That means his theories must be right!

  Come on, admit it. You had fun reading it didn't you. No one could make this stuff up. He just has to be serious.

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I'm like you John. I read the first paragraph, scanned a few first sentences
of the next few paragraphs, and went on my way. I'd rather watch paint dry,
or count the albino brain chiggers falling outside.

Now I feel stupid. I read to page 4 before I couldn't stand it any more. Hey, it was something to do on a snowy morning. Keep in mind I kept this little jewel in my secret archives for 4 years before inficting it upon and unsuspecting group. 

  Skip to the back and read his grade card and service record. I'm sure that will change your mind and lend credence to his "thesis".


  snicker

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        I'm not the only one who has heard the phantom car doors.
There was also the time that I was at the Ob. with a friend. After rotating
the dome to the west and climbing the ladder. A voice says. "What do you
think your doing?" An office from the Louisberg Police didn't think we
should be there since the alarm had not been turned off correctly. Then he
wanted to hang around, which was OK. But, he left his warning lights and
high beam lights on.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:59 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  --- In ASKC@y..., "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
  >     There are strange sounds that are heard about the observatory.
  One can
  > be in the dome and could swear that they have heard a car door open
  and
  > shut. After a while,  when nobody enters the classroom, you go
  check the
  > frontdoor and find it still shut and no other car in the lot.

  Maybe that's the racoons coming down from the barren concession
  area, checking YOUR car out for midnight snacks (grin)


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    Thanks Tom.  

Clear Skies,

Randy 


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:10 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  Hey Randy, welcome to the ASKC yahoogroups.

  Tom






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	Cool pics Tom. You always have a camera with you.

Clear Skies,

Randy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:19 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] New Website
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> I've just started up a new website.  If anyone cares to take a peek it is
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> http://www.sky.net/~martinez/
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> Tom Martinez
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 I have heard the shutter doors on the dome sometimes rattle in the wind and
other times it sounds just like a car door if they don't rattle but just
move a bit with a bump.  Dick T.


-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Thompson [mailto:randythm@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


        I'm not the only one who has heard the phantom car doors.
There was also the time that I was at the Ob. with a friend. After rotating
the dome to the west and climbing the ladder. A voice says. "What do you
think your doing?" An office from the Louisberg Police didn't think we
should be there since the alarm had not been turned off correctly. Then he
wanted to hang around, which was OK. But, he left his warning lights and
high beam lights on.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:59 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Saturn & Moon - Feb. 20th.


  --- In ASKC@y..., "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
  >     There are strange sounds that are heard about the observatory.
  One can
  > be in the dome and could swear that they have heard a car door open
  and
  > shut. After a while,  when nobody enters the classroom, you go
  check the
  > frontdoor and find it still shut and no other car in the lot.

  Maybe that's the racoons coming down from the barren concession
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The web site looks great Rob. You're doing a wonderful job.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:02 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


I hope everyone will look at the many great improvements that Rob has made
to our club website! : ^)  Wow, many pics and revised narrative to provide
great information about the club. Many thanks, Rob!

Check it out at www.askconline.org

Dave H.




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I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.

Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to Earth
(0.0001 AU)

If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million = 9,300
miles.

Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be 9,300
miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely screwed up
track.

Dick T.



-----Original Message-----
From: gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


The web site looks great Rob. You're doing a wonderful job.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:02 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


I hope everyone will look at the many great improvements that Rob has made
to our club website! : ^)  Wow, many pics and revised narrative to provide
great information about the club. Many thanks, Rob!

Check it out at www.askconline.org

Dave H.




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Hi Dick,

Ummm, damn good question. I can find no reference to that comet on
any of the usual resources such as Ron Baalke's Space Calendar or the 
table of NEC approaches at JPL. But we should take a good long look
at the name of this "comet" and wonder if there isn't some kind of 
trickery going on here...

Sincerely,
Richard Fredrick


--- In ASKC@y..., "dtrent" <dtrent@w...> wrote:
> I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.
> 
> Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to 
Earth
> (0.0001 AU)
> 
> If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million = 
9,300
> miles.
> 
> Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be 
9,300
> miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely 
screwed up
> track.
> 
> Dick T.

Of course it's true.  But be aware of the date of that closest approach...
J.

-----Original Message-----
From: dtrent [mailto:dtrent@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:25 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.

Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to Earth
(0.0001 AU)

If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million = 9,300
miles.

Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be 9,300
miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely screwed up
track.

Dick T.



-----Original Message-----
From: gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 5:56 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


The web site looks great Rob. You're doing a wonderful job.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:02 PM
To: ASKC Club
Subject: [ASKC] New Look for ASKC Website !


I hope everyone will look at the many great improvements that Rob has made
to our club website! : ^)  Wow, many pics and revised narrative to provide
great information about the club. Many thanks, Rob!

Check it out at www.askconline.org

Dave H.




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--- In ASKC@y..., "Jackie Beucher" <m31@s...> wrote:
> Of course it's true.  But be aware of the date of that closest 
approach...
> J.

Well......
It was in an international astronomy magazine, so it must be true.
Maybe there were one two many zeros in the distance.

David:    Dave Brackey and myself had our Sunday
evening program cancelled. Perhaps we could do our
program on the shuttle mission to repair the Hubble
Space telescope on Wednesday night. What size group
are we talking about and what
time???????????????????????      Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> Two more groups just booked. I have a star party for
> March 6 which I will do myself unless someone else
> is just dying to have a go at it.
> 
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> takers?
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Folks, 

Attached is the revised pin design. Slight changes were made to the figures which some people felt were a bit had to understand. We deleted the figure some people caled R2D2 and substituted a dob scope and a woman astronomer. I think it looks better now.

Dave H. 


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  Folks, 

  Attached is the revised pin design. Slight changes were made to the figures which some people felt were a bit had to understand. We deleted the figure some people caled R2D2 and substituted a dob scope and a woman astronomer. I think it looks better now.

  Dave H. 


  Yo David,
  You can not attach files to e-group messages. It will ALWAYS strip them off. You must upload them to the e-groups web site in the file area. If you want to send me the file as an attachment to a non-egoup message, I will post it to the e-group area for you. Send another message to dyoun8@... with the file attached and I'll put it up.

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David:    Dave Brackey and myself had our Sunday
evening program cancelled. Perhaps we could do our
program on the shuttle mission to repair the Hubble
Space telescope on Wednesday night. What size group
are we talking about and what
time???????????????????????      Bill

The Wednesday night group is just a few family members who want to look at stuff. I don't think they are looking for a formal program, just observing.

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Dave


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I have been referring friends and family to the new ASKC web site and one is
a professor in NY and he asked for the details of this comet that was to be
a "near miss" in April and he wondered why the press was not aware of it as
it seems like it could cause some havoc in near space and who knows what
else if nothing more than scaring the "H" out of the public.

In reality it sounds like an "april fool" joke.  I was surprized to find it
in the "professional" web page for the ASKC giving it authenticity.  If it's
distance is correct we could have a Planetary emergency on our hands.  Think
of the damage it would cause to many of our orbiting communications
satelites for starters.  If it is a joke I hope the person in charge of the
web page will make the corrections.  DT



-----Original Message-----
From: KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:54 PM
To: KCStarguy@...; dtrent@...
Subject: Comet Winter-Robinson


what is the designation for this comet and what mag is it now?
Message: 20
   Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:25:10 -0600
   From: "dtrent" <dtrent@...>
Subject: RE: New Look for ASKC Website !

I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.

==========================
"Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to Earth
(0.0001 AU)"
===========================

If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million = 9,300
miles.

Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be 9,300
miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely screwed up
track.

Dick T.

I have been referring friends and family to the new ASKC web site and one is
a professor in NY and he asked for the details of this comet that was to be
a "near miss" in April and he wondered why the press was not aware of it as
it seems like it could cause some havoc in near space and who knows what
else if nothing more than scaring the "H" out of the public.

In reality it sounds like an "April fool" joke.  Not many except club
members would recognize the name and see it for what it is.  I was surprized
to find it
in the "professional ASKC" web page giving it authenticity.  If it's
distance is correct we could have a Planetary emergency on our hands.  Think
of the damage it would cause to many of our orbiting communications
satelites for starters.

If it is a joke I hope it gets corrected.

I'm still "new" in the astronomy field and I admit I fell for the Joke.  I
wish I had seen it in email first instead of the ASKC web page.

DT



-----Original Message-----
From: KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 2:54 PM
To: KCStarguy@...; dtrent@...
Subject: Comet Winter-Robinson


what is the designation for this comet and what mag is it now?
Message: 20
   Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:25:10 -0600
   From: "dtrent" <dtrent@...>
Subject: RE: New Look for ASKC Website !

I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.

==========================
"Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to Earth
(0.0001 AU)"
===========================

If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million = 9,300
miles.

Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be 9,300
miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely screwed up
track.

Dick T.

I agree but personally I hope the web page doesn't get a bad name for
posting jokes, Even if it is April fools.  It doesn't seem too professional.
I have had a question from a professor in NY asking about the "near miss".
I had referred him to our professional club web page.  Now I am beginning to
wonder if I should refer anyone to it in the future if it is to be degraded
to this level.  An astronomer would probably recognize it but the public
might not.

-----Original Message-----
From: rkfredrick [ASKC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:54 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: New Look for ASKC Website !


Hi Dick,

Ummm, damn good question. I can find no reference to that comet on
any of the usual resources such as Ron Baalke's Space Calendar or the
table of NEC approaches at JPL. But we should take a good long look
at the name of this "comet" and wonder if there isn't some kind of
trickery going on here...

Sincerely,
Richard Fredrick


--- In ASKC@y..., "dtrent" <dtrent@w...> wrote:
> I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.
>
> Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to
Earth
> (0.0001 AU)
>
> If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million =
9,300
> miles.
>
> Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be
9,300
> miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely
screwed up
> track.
>
> Dick T.








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Well, I think this discussion is ridiculous.  It very obviously is an April
Fool's Joke.  Let's try not to get too indignant just because you didn't
figure it out right away.

Jackie
'

-----Original Message-----
From: dtrent [mailto:dtrent@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 6:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: New Look for ASKC Website !


I agree but personally I hope the web page doesn't get a bad name for
posting jokes, Even if it is April fools.  It doesn't seem too professional.
I have had a question from a professor in NY asking about the "near miss".
I had referred him to our professional club web page.  Now I am beginning to
wonder if I should refer anyone to it in the future if it is to be degraded
to this level.  An astronomer would probably recognize it but the public
might not.

-----Original Message-----
From: rkfredrick [ASKC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 12:54 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: New Look for ASKC Website !


Hi Dick,

Ummm, damn good question. I can find no reference to that comet on
any of the usual resources such as Ron Baalke's Space Calendar or the
table of NEC approaches at JPL. But we should take a good long look
at the name of this "comet" and wonder if there isn't some kind of
trickery going on here...

Sincerely,
Richard Fredrick


--- In ASKC@y..., "dtrent" <dtrent@w...> wrote:
> I just downloaded this from the ASKC web page.
>
> Monday, April 1 Comet Winter-Robinson makes closest approach to
Earth
> (0.0001 AU)
>
> If 1 AU = approx. 93,000,000 miles and 0.0001 times  93 million =
9,300
> miles.
>
> Is it true that on April 1st that (Winter-Robinson) comet will be
9,300
> miles from earth?  Sounds knida close or am I on a completely
screwed up
> track.
>
> Dick T.








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But we should take a good long look
at the name of this "comet" and wonder if there isn't some kind of 
trickery going on here...

Ok, I'll admit it. I was taken in too. The name of the comet sounded fishy right off and I figured if there was really a comet coming so close, spaceweather and others would be screaming. Then I saw the date. I have a sick sense of humor and appreciated being taken in if only for a few seconds.

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--- In ASKC@y..., "dtrent" <dtrent@w...> wrote:
"I was surprized to find it in the "professional ASKC" web page 
giving it authenticity."

see: Astronomical League Reflector, Vol.LIV, No.2, p.6

Dude,

Do you remember the name of the lady from JPL?

Her name is 
Z. Nagin Cox
Technical Staff Member
Flight systems Section

Dick


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:05 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] jpl


Dude,

Do you remember the name of the lady from JPL?





 

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  Dude,

  Do you remember the name of the lady from JPL?

  Nagin Cox, if you are asking about the lady who presented the talk on the Galileo probe.

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Nagin Cox

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...] 
Sent:	Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:05 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] jpl

Dude,

Do you remember the name of the lady from JPL?





 

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--- In ASKC@y..., "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:

David:

In the spirit of strange letters, I submit the following. One of the 
most hilarious responses I've ever read. Though I can't actually 
verify it, I understand this "Williams" character really does send 
stuff to the Smithsonian.


   Smithsonian Institute
   207 Pennsylvania Avenue
   Washington, DC 20078
   
   Dear Mr. Williams:
   
   Thank you for your latest submission to the Institute, 
labeled "93211-D,
   layer seven, next to the clothesline post...Hominid skull."
   
   We have given this specimen a careful and detailed examination, and
   regret to inform you that we disagree with your theory that it
   represents conclusive proof of the presence of Early Man in 
Harleston
   County two million years ago. Rather, it appears that what you have
   found is the head of a Barbie doll, of the variety that one of our
   staff, who has small children, believes to be "Malibu Barbie."
   
   It is evident that you have given a great deal of thought to the
   analysis of this specimen, and you may be quite certain that those 
of us
   who are familiar with your prior work in the field were loath to 
come to
   contradiction with your findings. However, we do feel that there 
are a
   number of physical attributes of the specimen which might have 
tipped
   you off to its modern origin:
   
   1. The material is molded plastic. Ancient hominid remains are 
typically
   fossilized bone.
   
   2. The cranial capacity of the specimen is approximately 9 cubic
   centimeters, well below the threshold of even the earliest 
identified
   proto-homonids.
   
   3. The dentition pattern evident on the skull is more consistent 
with
   the common domesticated dog than it is with the ravenous man-eating
   Pliocene clams you speculate roamed the wetlands during that time.
   
   This latter finding is certainly one of the most intriguing 
hypotheses
   you have submitted in your history with this institution, but the
   evidence seems to weigh rather heavily against it. Without going 
into
   too much detail, let us say that:
   
   A. The specimen looks like the head of a Barbie doll that a dog has
   chewed on.
   
   B. Clams don't have teeth.
   
   It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that we must deny your
   request to have the specimen carbon-dated. This is partially due 
to the
   heavy load our lab must bear in its normal operation, and partly 
due to
   carbon-dating's notorious inaccuracy in fossils of recent geologic
   record. To the best of our knowledge, no Barbie dolls were produced
   prior to 1956 AD, and carbon-dating is likely to produce wildly
   inaccurate results.
   
   Sadly, we must also deny your request that we approach the National
   Science Foundation Phylogeny Department with the concept of 
assigning
   your specimen the scientific name Australopithecus spiff-arino.
   
   Speaking personally, I, for one, fought tenaciously for the 
acceptance
   of your proposed taxonomy, but was ultimately voted down because 
the
   species name you selected was hyphenated, and didn't really sound 
like
   it might be Latin.
   
   However, we gladly accept your generous donation of this 
fascinating
   specimen to the museum. While it is undoubtedly not a Hominid 
fossil, it
   is, nonetheless, yet another riveting example of the great body of 
work
   you seem to accumulate here so effortlessly.
   
   You should know that our Director has reserved a special shelf in 
his
   own office for the display of the specimens you have previously
   submitted to the Institution, and the entire staff speculates 
daily on
   what you will happen upon next in your digs at the site you have
   discovered in your Newport back yard.
   
   We eagerly anticipate your trip to our nation's capital that you
   proposed in your last letter, and several of us are pressing the
   Director to pay for it. We are particularly interested in hearing 
you
   expand on your theories surrounding the trans-positating 
fillifitation
   of ferrous ions in a structural matrix that makes the excellent 
juvenile
   Tyrannosaurus Rex femur you recently discovered take on the 
deceptive
   appearance of a rusty 9-mm Sears Craftsman automotive crescent 
wrench.
   
   Yours in Science,
   
   Harvey Rowe
   
   Chief Curator - Antiquities

Negin or Nagin Cox

Clear Skies,

Randy 


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:bsa87joe@...]
  Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:05 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] jpl


  Dude,

  Do you remember the name of the lady from JPL?


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Hey all!

I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!

I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........

Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?

Thanks All!

-Scott

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Wow! I thought I heard something scuttling about outside a while back. The thought of encountering a ravenous man-eating Pliocene clam has me so terror stricken I might not be able to take out the trash!

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Scott, you should be able to go to any truck stop to get a weight. Most all
of them have public scales. They will of course want to charge you but I
have no idea how much.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Hey all!

I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!

I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........

Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But
since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?

Thanks All!

-Scott

>>> dyoung8@... 03/04/02 08:18PM >>>
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    So that's why they don't take out the trash!!!!

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:07 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Even Stranger Re: strange letter


  Wow! I thought I heard something scuttling about outside a while back. The
thought of encountering a ravenous man-eating Pliocene clam has me so terror
stricken I might not be able to take out the trash!

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Spring Hill,  Kansas -  Farmer's COOP.

John
John Anderson
anderiii@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Hey all!

I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!

I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........

Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.
But since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?

Thanks All!

-Scott

>>> dyoung8@... 03/04/02 08:18PM >>>
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I seem to have misplaced my latest directory. Would someone please give me Bill Thomson's phone number?

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Yes, David, very interesting! 

And I, well, applaud their goal of raising funds for the new observatory. In this particular case there was STILL not quite enough explaination (to make me comfortable) that people are not "officially naming a star". All that said, the idea of people being able to make a donation to an observatory, raise public awareness, and getting "something" (totally legitimate) in return does **still** appeal to me. What do you all think?

Maybe we could actually afford some new chairs for our public programs, heh-heh!!  Or build a proper control console for all our computer equipment.  (Also, have I uhhh I mentioned that we need new chairs?)

Dave H. 





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Scott, a decent sized truck stop usually has a scale.  Unfortunately I'm 
not familiar enough with the area to know exactly where they are located.

At 03:13 PM 3/5/2002, you wrote:
>Hey all!
>
>I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!
>
>I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........
>
>Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a 
>farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But 
>since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?
>
>Thanks All!
>
>-Scott

Scott it seems like i remember amy saying you could weigh at flying j in
peculiar. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: gary_rp [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Scott, you should be able to go to any truck stop to get a weight. Most all
of them have public scales. They will of course want to charge you but I
have no idea how much.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Hey all!

I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!

I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........

Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But
since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?

Thanks All!

-Scott

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im so glad im not the only airhead in this group. i get to blame my 6 kids
for everything i lose.:) whats your excuse david. and no you cant blame the
wife. we know better. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:32 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] member


I seem to have misplaced my latest directory. Would someone please give me
Bill Thomson's phone number?

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    There is a truck scale down on Front St. & Chouteo, in the East Bottoms.
There is another at the Quick Trip at I-635 and K-7.  I don't know what they
would charge.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:13 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


  Hey all!

  I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!

  I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........

  Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But
since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?

  Thanks All!

  -Scott

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<March 8 star party at Powell for 50 people>

I am planning on helping at Powell on Friday night and am wondering what
time to arrive.

Dave Brockway
Olathe, KS

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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


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> We have 4 star parties booked for the duty week of March 2 - March 8. The
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> March 7 (off site science night at school in Mission, member Bill Thomson
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am shooting for 6:30 to get down there.  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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<March 8 star party at Powell for 50 people>

I am planning on helping at Powell on Friday night and am wondering what
time to arrive.

Dave Brockway
Olathe, KS

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duty keyholder(s) are already scheduled to do one on March 3 and duty
keyholders are only asked to do one night per week.
>
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> March 5 (Channel 19 star party at Powell)
> March 7 (off site science night at school in Mission, member Bill Thomson
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Thanks Jackie, I will be there at 6:30.

Dave
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> I think the crowd arrives around 7 PM.  I'm doing the program for them,
and
> am shooting for 6:30 to get down there.
>
>         Jackie Beucher
> EMJ - Kansas City - Sales
>
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> Olathe, KS
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--- In ASKC@y..., "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
> There is another at the Quick Trip at I-635 and K-7. 

You mean I-635 and K-32 (Kansas Ave).
K-7 runs between Olathe and Leavenworth, about 10-12 miles west of 
I-635 which runs from Metcalf to I-29.

Rob

Scott,

Last time I checked, they charge per axle.  I believe the Total on Front
Street charges around $15/axle.  Flying J out by you would be the closes
place.  Your trailer is probably rated at 3500lb axle.  A majority of
single axles are.  There are 7000lb a single axles, but the price of the
trailer would have reflected that.  Usually about a $1000 more.  I think
John's is a 7000lb dual axle.  With general astronomy gear, I doubt that
you will exceed the load capacity.  Our Scout trailer is 12'/3500lb and
I haven't had it near capacity yet.  Something many people should
consider spending money on is a break-away unit on larger trailers.  If
you have trailer brakes.  Most likely, the smaller trailers do not.  It
is a battery unit that applies the brakes when the trailer comes
uncoupled.  A parent in out troop has a bum leg because a uncoupled
trailer crossed the median and struck him.

Joe

Gee,

My last message must of gone to Singapore and back.  I just got it at
1746.  Eighteen hour journey.  Still shorter than a 3 hour tour.

Joe

I've had that same problem lately.  Must be something up with yahoogroups.  My last couple messages have been taking up to 12 hours to appear after i send them.

-scott

>>> bsa87joe@... 03/06/02 05:48PM >>>
Gee,

My last message must of gone to Singapore and back.  I just got it at
1746.  Eighteen hour journey.  Still shorter than a 3 hour tour.

Joe





 

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You know, unless you don't want to go through it for some reason, I'll bet they would weigh it for free at the scale house out on I-70 or at Harrisonville. I think Quick Trip charged me $5 an axle last time I weighed a large truck. Might have gone up by now. If you want to get it weighed for free, haul some scrap iron to a junk yard like National Compressed Steel down on 7th street. They will pay you for the scrap and you get the trailer weighed for free. Now all you need is some scrap;-)


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  I've had that same problem lately.  Must be something up with yahoogroups.  My last couple messages have been taking up to 12 hours to appear after i send them.


  They're probably setting us up for a subscription charge. If we pay, we get better service or some crap like that.



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I can see the delay in the message routing headers, the entire 18-hour
delay was at one point, somewhere in the murky depths of Yahoo.

Dennis

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Joe Wright wrote:

>Gee,
>
>My last message must of gone to Singapore and back.  I just got it at
>1746.  Eighteen hour journey.  Still shorter than a 3 hour tour.
>
>Joe
>
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> 
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
>
>

Yahoo Groups had a message on their site last night that they were down for
repairs, the message is gone now and it seems to be working.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


>
>   I've had that same problem lately.  Must be something up with
yahoogroups.  My last couple messages have been taking up to 12 hours to
appear after i send them.
>
>
>   They're probably setting us up for a subscription charge. If we pay, we
get better service or some crap like that.
>
>
>
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>
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> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Last years directory shows it as 913-262-2284 David.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:32 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] member


I seem to have misplaced my latest directory. Would someone please give me
Bill Thomson's phone number?

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No, they had a hardware failure that lasted 24 hours and caused a serious
mail backlog.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:58 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer



    I've had that same problem lately.  Must be something up with
yahoogroups.  My last couple messages have been taking up to 12 hours to
appear after i send them.


    They're probably setting us up for a subscription charge. If we pay, we
get better service or some crap like that.



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Wow!  What a wild mob of scouts last night at Powell!  Tom Martinez and I *really* had our hands full. Everybody had a great time, heh-heh, but I think that the 2-1/2 hours of screaming energy added another 20db to my encrouching hearing loss! This was the Channel 19 group...one of them donated $65 to "buy" the starparty.  

The adults were so enthused that they all swore they were coming back in the summer. Actually the sky turned out pretty clear, and it was great fun. I am continually amazed at the level of astronomy knowledge of some 8 -12 year olds!   : ^)

Dave H. 



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Yeah there is a truck scale in Harrisonville, but I wondering what it will cost..........

Thanks all!

>>> n3kkm@... 03/05/02 09:53PM >>>
Scott, a decent sized truck stop usually has a scale.  Unfortunately I'm 
not familiar enough with the area to know exactly where they are located.

At 03:13 PM 3/5/2002, you wrote:
>Hey all!
>
>I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!
>
>I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........
>
>Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a 
>farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But 
>since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?
>
>Thanks All!
>
>-Scott





 

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Wow!  What a wild mob of scouts last night at Powell!  Tom Martinez and I *really* had our hands full. Everybody had a great time, heh-heh, but I think that the 2-1/2 hours of screaming energy added another 20db to my encrouching hearing loss! This was the Channel 19 group...one of them donated $65 to "buy" the starparty.  
 
The adults were so enthused that they all swore they were coming back in the summer. Actually the sky turned out pretty clear, and it was great fun. I am continually amazed at the level of astronomy knowledge of some 8 -12 year olds!   : ^)

Dave H. 



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I have redone the LINKS page on the ASKC website.
I have provided some links which are more "public general", and of 
interest to those interested in planets, deepsky, nearsky 
(satellites), plus magazines etc. There is also a link for the kids!

If you have some links that you think would be beneficial send me the 
URL's so I can add them. We want to have sites that are easy for the 
public to understand, are educational or provide useful information, 
without being too technical.

This also completes the rennovation of the site. I tried to make it 
as pleasing as possible, quick loading, and chock full of pics and 
information. I know some were disappointed that some stuff was 
removed (e.g. awards, swap&shop, slideshows). The awards page had no 
meaning for outsiders; the swap&shop had little activity; and the 
slide shows were replaced by the multitude of pics that are now on 
the site, and will periodically be replaced by NEW pics (I now have a 
full library full of stuff, but please send more!) There is another 
section still missing - The Asteroid Program, but Scott is to get me 
a write up and some sample asteroid pics soon. As soon as I receive 
those, they will be posted. I also think we should have some stuff 
for the visual observing station. SO...anyone that wants to volunteer 
to do a write up with pics, let me know.

See you all on the 23rd......

Rob Robinson
ASKC webmaster

  im so glad im not the only airhead in this group. i get to blame my 6 kids
  for everything i lose.:) whats your excuse david. and no you cant blame the
  wife. we know better. shelley

  I took it to Powell with me one night and it hasn't been seen since. I must have left it in the classroom.


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To all who volunteered for the group at Powell Friday night, David N. called
me last night to say the group had cancelled.

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

scott i drive past everyday i will stop this morning and ask. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Yeah there is a truck scale in Harrisonville, but I wondering what it will
cost..........

Thanks all!

>>> n3kkm@... 03/05/02 09:53PM >>>
Scott, a decent sized truck stop usually has a scale.  Unfortunately I'm
not familiar enough with the area to know exactly where they are located.

At 03:13 PM 3/5/2002, you wrote:
>Hey all!
>
>I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!
>
>I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........
>
>Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
>farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But
>since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?
>
>Thanks All!
>
>-Scott







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  Subject: [ASKC] Mob at Powel Tuesday Night




  Wow!  What a wild mob of scouts last night at Powell!  

  And don't ya just love the way the dome concentrates the sound when you are up on the ladder!  


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I have you scratched out for this Friday. There are no dates taken as yet in
May.  I would rather you didn't use any date around May 11 since there is a
big off site star party on that date.

Please be sure to contact all of the people who volunteered for your night!
No there is no $$ owed.

David Young
dyoung8@...

Heh, heh. My group at Powell last night consisted of two people. It's good to be scheduler.    

Say Hudgins, I have a group of hyperactive fourth graders that are visiting a candy factory next week. They would like you to host a star party for 75 kids right after they finish their soda pop and free candy.  (snicker)


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Thank you, Shelley!!!!!!!

Let me know what you find out...........

>>> grangerk@... 03/07/02 07:57AM >>>
scott i drive past everyday i will stop this morning and ask. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] (OT) weighing a trailer


Yeah there is a truck scale in Harrisonville, but I wondering what it will
cost..........

Thanks all!

>>> n3kkm@... 03/05/02 09:53PM >>>
Scott, a decent sized truck stop usually has a scale.  Unfortunately I'm
not familiar enough with the area to know exactly where they are located.

At 03:13 PM 3/5/2002, you wrote:
>Hey all!
>
>I know this is SEVERELY off-topic, so don't trash me too badly please!
>
>I figured with the wealth of knowledge here, someone would know.........
>
>Where can I take a 2 wheel cargo trailer to be weighed?  If I were in a
>farming community, I could just take it to the local grain elevator.  But
>since we are here in the KC metro area, anyone know of a location?
>
>Thanks All!
>
>-Scott







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DY

I'm off to DD's place.  Didn't' get enough altitude time yesterday.

JW

My latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang taken 3/6 with Boston scope. It is really 
becoming a spectacle with a nice tail. Hard to spot with naked eye though

It's easy to view my new photo album.  Just go to the 
Web page below.
<A HREF="http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091">
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091</A>

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksunnews-subscribe@egroups.com
  http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm

We have all been to those meetings where someone wants over 100
percent.
How about achieving 103 percent? Here's a little math that might prove
helpful in the future. 
What makes life 100 percent?
If,  A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
    can be represented as the numbers:
   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
Then,

H A R D W O R K
8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98% only

K N O W L E D G E
11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96% only

But,
A T T I T U D E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

 And,

B U L L S H I T
2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

So, it stands to reason that hardwork and knowledge will get you close,
but attitude and bullshit will put you over the top.




Clear Skies,

Randy 

Nice article on Pluto in the new Smithsonian.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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And you can read it on line at: 
 
www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues02/mar02/pluto.html

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:04 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] smithsonian

Nice article on Pluto in the new Smithsonian.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Rett and I had a great time at Westwood View Elementary School last night! Rett had his SC set up outside. I ran the StarLab inside. It was loud ;-) It cleared off nicely and Rett had a steady line from about 6:30 until after 8:30, to look at Jupiter and Saturn. 

David Young
dyoung8@...


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I just returned from RMC (RSO) with my latest batch of cool stuff/junk. 

Jackie, Vic, Nick, Gina: don't buy any paper! I have at least one hundred reams. Most of it is 20# white but there is also a bunch of 24# and some colors. I've seen bright white, blue, yellow so far. 
 
I also have staplers, staple pullers, highlighters, black markers, post-it pads, cardboard boxes, penlights, travel alarm clocks, a gazillion pens of various types, binders, large self adhesive labels by the roll, and envelopes of various sizes including some bubble pack mailers.

I intend to donate most of it for ASKC and Astronomical League use but if you have a school, church or other organization that could use some of this stuff, leave me a note or give me a call.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Dave -- Colors would be great!  I have to make up some stuff for the League
that I want to do in colors...  I also could use it to run copies of the
observatory schedule that we hand out.   Which I have to re-do for the new
season...  All of those other items would be most helpful, too!

I'm going to be buying a copy machine for the League soon.  Any one out
there "know somebody"?  My machine at home is on it's last legs....

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Friday, March 08, 2002 11:09 AM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] Re: RSO stuff

I just returned from RMC (RSO) with my latest batch of cool stuff/junk. 

Jackie, Vic, Nick, Gina: don't buy any paper! I have at least one hundred
reams. Most of it is 20# white but there is also a bunch of 24# and some
colors. I've seen bright white, blue, yellow so far. 
 
I also have staplers, staple pullers, highlighters, black markers, post-it
pads, cardboard boxes, penlights, travel alarm clocks, a gazillion pens of
various types, binders, large self adhesive labels by the roll, and
envelopes of various sizes including some bubble pack mailers.

I intend to donate most of it for ASKC and Astronomical League use but if
you have a school, church or other organization that could use some of this
stuff, leave me a note or give me a call.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Yeah, it's called Surplus exchange. Joe Wright goes now and then as do I. I know they have some big copiers in the non-profit room. I think they will guarantee they work. If you are interested you should probably go down with Joe since he has a good relationship with a number of people down there and can get a great deal on non-profit stuff. Lots of computer stuff too. Cd rom drives, hard drives, floppy drives, ram, cables, etc. 

David Young
dyoung8@...
  I'm going to be buying a copy machine for the League soon.  Any one out
  there "know somebody"?  My machine at home is on it's last legs....

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Eric - I am sure you have some excellent photos, BUT you should make 
them more publically available to everyone, e.g. on your website, 
rather than on a site where you have to sign up. I have just about 
discontinued patronage of these sites since a) you have to give them 
personal information they really don't need; and  b) they usually 
either themselves, or their third party benefactors, use your 
information to spam you more advertising in your mailbox. How about 
sending them directly to me and I will put them on the ASKC Alert 
page which has information about the comet?

Rob

--- In ASKC@y..., KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> My latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang taken 3/6 with Boston scope. It is 
really 
> becoming a spectacle with a nice tail. Hard to spot with naked eye 
though
> 
> It's easy to view my new photo album.  Just go to the 
> Web page below.
> <A HREF="http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091">
> http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091</A>
kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm

A member has Powell reserved tomorrow night (Saturday). I have been unable to contact Dennis Budd who has the duty that night. We need a keyholder to run the telescope. Any takers? 


David Young
dyoung8@...


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The box of 25 mailers are Jiffylite #1    12 1/2" x 8 1/4" overall.   About 10" X  7" actual usable inside area. They're Walt's if he want 'em.


Anyone care to open Powell for a member tonight?

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I just uploaded a new team list that includes phone numbers to the ASKC e-groups file area.

Since I lost the latest directory somewhere I used an old one and didn't have some of the phone numbers. Some of the numbers may be out of date. Please check yours and let me know if they are correct.

Would someone please provide me with a voice phone number for: 

Joe Alburty
Bill All
David Neuenschwander
Gary Martin
Ron Turly
Tim Kristl
Mike Coffer
Eric Flescher

Note: The keyholder phone list is for internal ASKC use only and should NOT be published in the Cosmic Messenger

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Rob
I did this way because it was easy for me to do. Anyway I guess it is 
inconvenient for others so I will try another way. I will be happy to send 
them to you if you want. Attached is one of my latest from a few nights ago.

Hope it makes it to you. Thanks.
where the askc alert page? what is the url?
I have more pics at 
  http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)





Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 02:09:45 -0000
   From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>
Subject: Re: latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang

Eric - I am sure you have some excellent photos, BUT you should make 
them more publically available to everyone, e.g. on your website, 
rather than on a site where you have to sign up. I have just about 
discontinued patronage of these sites since a) you have to give them 
personal information they really don't need; and  b) they usually 
either themselves, or their third party benefactors, use your 
information to spam you more advertising in your mailbox. How about 
sending them directly to me and I will put them on the ASKC Alert 
page which has information about the comet?

Rob >>



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It is right off the ASKC home page   askconline.org

KCStarguy@... wrote:
> 
> Rob
> I did this way because it was easy for me to do. Anyway I guess it is
> inconvenient for others so I will try another way. I will be happy to send
> them to you if you want. Attached is one of my latest from a few nights ago.
> 
> Hope it makes it to you. Thanks.
> where the askc alert page? what is the url?
> I have more pics at
>   http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm
> 
> Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
> 
> Message: 3
>    Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 02:09:45 -0000
>    From: "sc285" <webmaster@...>
> Subject: Re: latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang
> 
> Eric - I am sure you have some excellent photos, BUT you should make
> them more publically available to everyone, e.g. on your website,
> rather than on a site where you have to sign up. I have just about
> discontinued patronage of these sites since a) you have to give them
> personal information they really don't need; and  b) they usually
> either themselves, or their third party benefactors, use your
> information to spam you more advertising in your mailbox. How about
> sending them directly to me and I will put them on the ASKC Alert
> page which has information about the comet?
> 
> Rob >>
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
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--- In ASKC@y..., KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> them to you if you want. Attached is one of my latest from a few 
nights ago.
> 
> Hope it makes it to you. Thanks.

You can't send attachments through the maillist, since they are 
stripped to prevent transmission of any possible viruses. You need to 
email them to me directly.

The Alert Page is located at www.askconline.org

Well, that is so true, Walt!  When I went to look and was asked to sign in,
I deleted the whole thing instantly.  J.

-----Original Message-----
From: sc285 [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:10 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang


Eric - I am sure you have some excellent photos, BUT you should make
them more publically available to everyone, e.g. on your website,
rather than on a site where you have to sign up. I have just about
discontinued patronage of these sites since a) you have to give them
personal information they really don't need; and  b) they usually
either themselves, or their third party benefactors, use your
information to spam you more advertising in your mailbox. How about
sending them directly to me and I will put them on the ASKC Alert
page which has information about the comet?

Rob

--- In ASKC@y..., KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> My latest picture of Ikeya-Zhang taken 3/6 with Boston scope. It is
really
> becoming a spectacle with a nice tail. Hard to spot with naked eye
though
>
> It's easy to view my new photo album.  Just go to the
> Web page below.
> <A HREF="http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091">
> http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=96444945303&n=1482260091</A>
kcstarguy/blacksun/cometpics.htm







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David -- Can you please put this in an email like you did the other things?
I can't access the file area.  Although I get all the emails, every time I
try, yahoo tells me I am not a member of this group.

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 8:19 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] TEAM PHONE #S


I just uploaded a new team list that includes phone numbers to the ASKC
e-groups file area.

Since I lost the latest directory somewhere I used an old one and didn't
have some of the phone numbers. Some of the numbers may be out of date.
Please check yours and let me know if they are correct.

Would someone please provide me with a voice phone number for:

Joe Alburty
Bill All
David Neuenschwander
Gary Martin
Ron Turly
Tim Kristl
Mike Coffer
Eric Flescher

Note: The keyholder phone list is for internal ASKC use only and should NOT
be published in the Cosmic Messenger

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Wow the logo is up already on the site. Cool.
Last night at the observatory, we had two small groups. 
People like to pic up sky maps and we could have current ones available and 
have a little box to charge 25 cents a piece? 
They enjoyed seeing Saturn, Jupiter and M42 and Sirius in the big scope. We 
also saw somje unexpected bright and long duration meteors. I think I spotted 
Ikeya-Zhang with my binoculars. I think I could see the tail pointing up. It 
is growing brighter and has a long tail 5 degrees. It is still near 5th mag.
Greg North did a great job in setting up the scope and I learned a lot by 
watching him set up. Someday maybe I learn enough to become a keyholder. 
There were donations put in the box and they will tell others and were very 
enthusiastic about coming back. 
What about having a sign in sheet with email addresses for quests so we can 
send out an email with their permissions abou upcoming events? I thing that 
would be a good idea. 

Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
http://www.ericsblacksuneclipse.com -editor- Black Sun eclipse newsletter 
(eclipse and astronomy news) to subscribe send email to 
blacksuneclipse-subscribe@egroups.com

<< 
Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 09:35:41 -0600
   From: Scott Kranz <skranz@...>
Subject: Re: pics

It is right off the ASKC home page   askconline.org

KCStarguy@... wrote:
> 
> Rob
> I did this way because it was easy for me to do. Anyway I guess it is >>

The website really looks nice. Thanks for displaying my comet pic in the 
alert section. The comet is changing each day. Finder chart is nice too. 
Of course the logo is real nice too and that is the one I voted for!!!

What about designing rollovers for the menu bar?
Dr. Eric Flescher (KCStarguy@...)

Anyone interested in a scout group Monday night?

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Last night at the observatory, we had two small groups. 

I neglected to mention the second bunch didn't I?   (sneaky smirk) I had a couple of people call in and ask about coming down so I told them they could stop by for a few minutes.

People like to pic up sky maps and we could have current ones available and 
have a little box to charge 25 cents a piece? 

We used to keep some Adler monthly sky charts down there. I think Jackie made them up and put them down there during the regular season. We can't charge for the Adlers but if you can come up with a chart that is not copyright protected please feel free to do so. We'll find a way to duplicate them.


What about having a sign in sheet with email addresses for quests so we can 
send out an email with their permissions abou upcoming events? I thing that 
would be a good idea. 

There is a guest sign in book laying on the counter.



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Just saw a message on another list, Yahoogroups will be offline March 15th to
March 18th....
 They'll be back sometime LATE on the 18th.

As info!!
Carroll Iorg




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I have groups booked for the following nights:

March 11            unstaffed                    assigned staff member has already done one night during their duty week
March 12            staffed by David Young

March 23            unstaffed
March 26            Assigned to Roger Gruenke and Debbie Harrelson

I will do the one on March 11.

I will not do the one on March 23. If I don't have a volunteer by March18 I will cancel it.

I have a group scheduled for April 5     David Hudgins and Carroll Iorg are assigned.

I have a group scheduled on April 19    Tim Kristl and Mike Larkin are assigned.

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Just in case any ASKC folks will be in the area of this:


ABSOLUTE AUCTION
Must Liquidate!!
ENTIRE contents of Astronomical Store
previously known as
POCONO MOUNTAIN OPTICS


SATURDAY, MARCH 30th, at 10:00 AM and throughout the day (come first for the
best deals!) HOLIDAY INN CONFERENCE CENTER at intersection of I-78 and Route
100, west of ALLENTOWN. Everything you can imagine.. telescopes, night
scopes, spotting scopes, binoculars, galore!, tripods, books, charts,
eyepieces,filters..

All brand names... JMI, 1000 Oaks, Celestron, Meade, Minolta, Zeiss, Pentax,
Fujinon, Nikon, Bushnell.. There are literally HUNDREDS of brand new
astronomical items which could be had for less than 50 cents on the dollar!

A FABulous opportunity for our area amateur astronomers... come and bid, or
come and watch!!!


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I just got back from Costco with $120 worth of snacks and soda. I still have some $$ of refrigerator money left if any of you have any specific requests, now would be a good time to let me know what you would like.

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not that I'm out there all that much, but microwave popcorn is always
nice....  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:41 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] stuff for Powell


I just got back from Costco with $120 worth of snacks and soda. I still have
some $$ of refrigerator money left if any of you have any specific requests,
now would be a good time to let me know what you would like.

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       The star charts are a good idea.  I think we should also sell small 
stuff.  For example, Orion has a fold out star chart for about $13.  We could 
sell it for 18 at Powell.  We could use The Sky program to print up star 
charts of what is up that month and sell several months in advance for 50 
cents or 3 for $1.00.  Kathy's Messier book also might be a good sell.  
Should keep it to stuff under $20.  Just put it out on display, or better 
still have a small glassed in display case.
       I bet we could make a couple of thousand a year from the various 
groups.  Would help balance the budget use for dark sky site.
Tim Kristl

Tim:

This was discussed at one of the board meetings.  Nick knack items could
be a hit.  There seems to be a lot of scout groups going to Powell so
far this season.  The new pin and a patch would be a seller.  Scouts
collect this stuff.  It gives them a reminder of where and what they
have done.  The questioned that was brought up was,  who will be
responsible?.  We can't expect Diane and Rita to be there for each and
every star party.  With the new alignment of teams, maybe there is a
possibility that a team member could handle this.  A small selection of
items should be on display.  These could include hats, pins, cups,
t-shirts and some other things.  If we don't show them, they will not
know what we have to sell other than pop and candy.  Back to scouts.
Many of the scout events have a patch for such things as hikes, klondike
derby, camporee, summer camp and cosmosphere.  Maybe it would be to our
liking to offer a program that for an additional fee, each participant
will receive a patch or pin.  Last week at surplus exchange was an oak
display case.  The kind that is wall mounted with double doors.  Most
likely used for a directory. FYI.

Joe

Thanks Carroll.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:Carroll-Iorg@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:37 PM
To: ASKC Yahoo Groups
Subject: [ASKC] Some down time for Yahoogroups


Just saw a message on another list, Yahoogroups will be offline March 15th
to
March 18th....
 They'll be back sometime LATE on the 18th.

As info!!
Carroll Iorg




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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jackie Beucher 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] stuff for Powell


  not that I'm out there all that much, but microwave popcorn is always
  nice....  Jackie


    not that I'm out there all that much, but microwave popcorn is always
    nice....  Jackie

    For general information I bought the following to add to the existing stock already at Powell:

    2 cases coke
    1 case Pepsi
    1 case 7-up
    1 case root beer
    1 case Dr pepper
    36 bottles of spring water
    1 carton herseys almond bar
    1 carton almond joy
    1 carton pretzel stix
    28 pack of Act II microwave popcorn
    1 package of refrigerator containers with lids
    3 cartons fisher cashews
    1 case Frito lay snack assorted chips

    I intend to get some frozen or packaged mini-meal items to fix in the microwave or toster oven for a major snack for the late night observers. The containers will be used to divide the goodies from the large packages.

    I should get some diet soda too. What kind?

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Last night there were about 30 people down at Kansas Astronomy Village (Scopeville) running a
Messier Marathon.  The wind died down at about sunset and it was a beautiful night!  By sunrise
there were 7 of us left.  We all had numbers in the 100's.

We knew the gods were with us, when a bunch of us seen Jupiter and Venus naked-eye long before
sunset.

Shortly after sunset, and getting most of those early objects, I thought I'd try to find Comet
Ikeya-Zhang.  I had a finder chart for it, but since I was using a low power eyepiece (1-degree
field of view), I figured I would just "browse" the area until i run into it.  

So I put the scope down there in the crook of Pisces and started searching.  I was expecting a
slightly bright fuzzy object.  You know.... your average everyday comet.  The zodical light didn't
help at all!  It shot all the way up past the horns of Taurus.  In the scope, it was a very bright
background sky.  I figured the comet would be hard to detect.  

The first thing I seen when I looked into the eyepiece was what looked like a con trail from an
airplane.  So I just went by it and kept looking.  After a minute or 2 I happened upon that same con
trail again, but for some reason it happened to look kind of weird - like it had 2 halves to it.  So
I followed it 1 field of view and then another.  And there it was!  Blazing bright!  I just let out
a holler and everyone knew I had found it.

Everyone came over and yiped and hollered.  I figured it was so bright, it had to be visibe
naked-eye.  I looked thru the Telrad to find my bearing, and sure enough; there the coma was in the
sky easily seen WITHOUT adverted vision.  Like a bright fuzzy star.

Like i said, I followed the tail easily for 3 degrees.  Some serious looking probably would have
gone another degree or 2.  I was running the marathon, so I didn't have a whole lot of time for
serious inspection, especially with everyone looking thru my scope.  The coma showed lots of detail
even at low power.  I will definitely have to throw some power at it next time.

Remember how Hyakutake had a blue-green color to it?  This looked like the same, maybe more
lime-green in color.  But a huge coma and beautiful tail that had all kinds of kinks and bends in
it.

This comet is supposed to get a little higher and brighter.

BE SURE TO GET OUT AND SEE IT!

Right now you need a fairly clear westly horizon.  You don't need a telescope.  It looked AWESOME in
binoculars!

If this comet gets some national press, we may want to have some special public comet viewing nights
in late March.

It felt just incredible to see another comet like this again.  I figured that since we had Hyakutake
and Hale-Bopp so close together, it would be decades before we had another like this......   but
here it is!

Next thing is to go out and get some pics!

-Scott

Diet Coke would be nice.  Thanks David for doing all our shopping.

Rita

David Young wrote:

>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jackie Beucher
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:17 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ASKC] stuff for Powell
>
>   not that I'm out there all that much, but microwave popcorn is always
>   nice....  Jackie
>
>     not that I'm out there all that much, but microwave popcorn is always
>     nice....  Jackie
>
>     For general information I bought the following to add to the existing stock already at Powell:
>
>     2 cases coke
>     1 case Pepsi
>     1 case 7-up
>     1 case root beer
>     1 case Dr pepper
>     36 bottles of spring water
>     1 carton herseys almond bar
>     1 carton almond joy
>     1 carton pretzel stix
>     28 pack of Act II microwave popcorn
>     1 package of refrigerator containers with lids
>     3 cartons fisher cashews
>     1 case Frito lay snack assorted chips
>
>     I intend to get some frozen or packaged mini-meal items to fix in the microwave or toster oven for a major snack for the late night observers. The containers will be used to divide the goodies from the large packages.
>
>     I should get some diet soda too. What kind?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I still need phone numbers for Joe Alburty, Mike Coffer, Gary Martin and Ron Turley.

I'm sure Joe is in the latest directory. Would one of you please look him up and send me his number. Anyone have a phone number for the other people?

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Didn't Mike Cofer move to SE Kansas?  

        Jackie Beucher
EMJ - Kansas City - Sales

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From: 	David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent:	Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:24 PM
To:	ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	[ASKC] phone numbers

I still need phone numbers for Joe Alburty, Mike Coffer, Gary Martin and Ron
Turley.

I'm sure Joe is in the latest directory. Would one of you please look him up
and send me his number. Anyone have a phone number for the other people?

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