Hi:

I'm having one of those senior moments, happens a lot to me.  Someone
asked me to make a recovery disk for them.  Are you out there?  I think
they had a sony computer.

Joe

I have only very quickly glanced at the sky for this comet in binocs, but
did not see comet kudo fujikawa in binocs from my Overland Park location.
However, this morning it was very easy with a short ccd exposure, with a
tail about 5 arc minutes long pointing to the north on the images. Lots of
clouds, and I was constantly dodging them for even 10 second exposures...so
not much in the way of a  picture that is really good. But it is a nice
little comet, and would be worthwhile in a scope under darker skies!

Dave H.
----- Original Message -----
From: <KCStarguy@...>
To: <KCStarguy@...>; <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:51 PM
Subject: [ASKC] basic stuff on comet kudo


> I have imaged it 2 or 3 times but no real tail.
> Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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> ***
>
>
> A Comet to Start the New Year...
>
> Kudos to Tetuo Kudo of Kumamota, Japan and to Shigehisa Fujikawa of
Kagawa,
> Japan for their discovery of the first decent amateur comet for 2003!
Kudo
> spotted his comet early on the morning of December 14th, using 20 x 120
> binoculars.  Fujikawa was using a 6 inch reflecting telescope.  The comet
> was found in the Bootes/Hercules region.
>
> The comet, named C/2002 X5 (Kudo-Fujikawa) will reach perihelion - its
> closest approach to the sun, on January 28th.  It is expected to brighten
> considerably from its discovery brightness of about 9th magnitude.
> Throughout January, it will be visible with binoculars and near the end of
> the month, will reach visibility with the unaided eye.  Coordinates during
> January are as follows: (taken from
> http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides/Comets/2002X5.html)
>
> Date           RA          Dec    Magnitude
> 2003 01 01   18h 09.28   +28 27.3   +5.8
> 2003 01 06   18h 42.37   +21 29.3   +5.2
> 2003 01 11   19h 11.64   +13 58.2   +4.4
> 2003 01 16   19h 37.50   +06 00.2   +3.5
> 2003 01 21   20h 00.83    -02 39.8   +2.1
> 2003 01 26   20h 23.75    -12 59.6   +0.2
> 2003 01 31   20h 52.61    -25 04.2   -0.1
> 2003 02 05   21h 32.93    -34 07.9   +1.7
>
> For a map showing the movement of the comet through the constellations,
> check out Seiichi Yoshida's 'Weekly Information about Bright Comets'
website
> at http://www.aerith.net/comet/weekly/current.html    Information and a
map
> can also be found on the Sky and Telescope website at
> http://skyandtelescope.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>

As Scott says, the Zoog farm is officially expired.  The Black River Ranch site is waiting on a lease agreement.  According to Larry Goode, he needs to get the owner a copy for his signature, after which will have an official star party there.  You'll hear about it here first.

Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Which is the ASKC "dark sky site"?


  hmmmmm  good question.

  I think the lease for the property owned by Zoog "officially" expires as of the 1st of the year. 
  Don't know for sure.  But are we able to go to the new site anytime we want now already before a new
  lease is signed??????



  "Rich Hathaway " wrote:
  > 
  > Is the club still leasing the Groh Rd site for member use? Or are we
  > now using the one off the 359th St exit of Highway 69, described in
  > Tom Martinez' Nov 30 message #5772?
  > 
  > Or is there another location?
  > 
  > TIA,
  > 
  > Rich Hathaway
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We will have to do a little work before it is really user friendly. access to the site is the biggest problem at this time. being user unfriendly gates, they open the wrong way for our purposes. I am going down on Saturday to see if I can get the ball rolling, and get the lease signed.

          Larry

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I was able to take pictures of 20021 V1 NEAT comet. It is quite bright and 
might try estimate magnitude.

I also caught Kudo-F nicely. I invented a method by which students could do 
visual experiments by  comparing the pictures taken of celestial objects with 
RGB and Infrared filters and comparing the images according to a scale I 
devised.

I have continued to take RGBIR pictures to compare to the clear ones. I just 
got some  pictures (this morning) of comet Kudo-F (I still don't understand 
why the F name was added eventhough Kudo found it ?).

Pictures from the night before-did anyone notice Kudo was fainter? 

1/1/2003 first comet pics of the year 
The clear pictures show a hint of tail and a bright coma.
Blue filter picture shows a very faint coma.
Green filter picture is very bright almost as bright as clear.
Red filter picture is fainter then green with very concise small coma
Infrared filter picture shows faintest coma 

I am still attempting to build a suitable guide chart to show why filters 
work the way they do with different celestial objects (why they show what 
they show). 

What is the reason why green is almost as bright as clear (no tail) ?
Why is red showing a a very small coma? (does not show the dust around the 
coma?)
Is IR picture faint as the comet is not giving off much heat?
why is blue the faintest? 

I will post these picture soon
thanks and happy new year

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
 astronomy education consultant, From the Ground Up- Harvard University
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
<ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website 
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If ASKC members want to use a dark site in the meantime, you might want to check with the Winters. 
I think that you could probably use the ICStars Ranch.  Easy to get to and dark skies!

-Scott

Tom Martinez wrote:
> 
> As Scott says, the Zoog farm is officially expired.  The Black River Ranch site is waiting on a
> lease agreement.  According to Larry Goode, he needs to get the owner a copy for his signature,
> after which will have an official star party there.  You'll hear about it here first.
> 
> Tom
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Scott Kranz
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:40 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Which is the ASKC "dark sky site"?
> 
>   hmmmmm  good question.
> 
>   I think the lease for the property owned by Zoog "officially" expires as of the 1st of the year.
> 
>   Don't know for sure.  But are we able to go to the new site anytime we want now already before a
> new
>   lease is signed??????
> 
>   "Rich Hathaway " wrote:
>   >
>   > Is the club still leasing the Groh Rd site for member use? Or are we
>   > now using the one off the 359th St exit of Highway 69, described in
>   > Tom Martinez' Nov 30 message #5772?
>   >
>   > Or is there another location?
>   >
>   > TIA,
>   >
>   > Rich Hathaway
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Quadrantid Shower Party 

Date: Friday, January 3, 2003 
Time: 5:00PM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Quadrantid Meteor shower star party at Powell 

 

Happy New Yearn to All

Last night was a good night for viewing.  It was pretty steady.  At
Powell we watch
Callisto transit across Jupiter.  You could see the shadow and the moon
on the face of
the planet.  The spot looked good also.  It is very pale at this time,
but was easily
viewable.

The hinges (aka butts by trade name) on the LCT will be replaced by
heavier duty
ones.  Right now, one must lift the flap for it to close properly.  The
2x4 stiffener
doesn't clear the wall unless this is done.

Termite eradication begins Monday.  I will be at Powell Saturday to take
back the
carpet along the North wall for drilling.




Rita and I are headed there know, I have some hinges in the garage.

Joe

A couple of new hinges were added, but still needs some work.

From the pulling to close the roof, the hinges have bent, dropping the
flap.  I attached a rope to the roof structure to help pull the roof
closed.  Thru bolting will be the best fix aside from a mechanical
opener.  I suggest that both scopes be turned to the NW when closing and
making sure the bags are over them.  When closing the flap, some effort
required to lift the flap and shove it into place.


Joe

Joe,

Be sure to show this everyone when you do the keyholder training.

-Scott

Joe Wright wrote:
> 
> A couple of new hinges were added, but still needs some work.
> 
> >From the pulling to close the roof, the hinges have bent, dropping the
> flap.  I attached a rope to the roof structure to help pull the roof
> closed.  Thru bolting will be the best fix aside from a mechanical
> opener.  I suggest that both scopes be turned to the NW when closing and
> making sure the bags are over them.  When closing the flap, some effort
> required to lift the flap and shove it into place.
> 
> Joe
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Hello Richard,

The way I understand it is this. The Groh Rd. site is officially no longer
paid for. Larry is still trying to reach the man at the new site to work on
the permit. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

Gary Pittman
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Rich Hathaway <RHathaway@...>
[mailto:RHathaway@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:14 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Which is the ASKC "dark sky site"?


  Is the club still leasing the Groh Rd site for member use? Or are we
  now using the one off the 359th St exit of Highway 69, described in
  Tom Martinez' Nov 30 message #5772?

  Or is there another location?

  TIA,

  Rich Hathaway


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<snip>
> (3) Not at all required, but maybe consider a "theme" for monthly 
starparties. Maybe prepare a list of double stars, other objects that 
are well placed, or a "small scope" observing night, or 
"astrophotograpy nights", or a "city observing" night at a public 
park??  Or just "Fun Night".   Hey, what ever the Starmeister (leader) 
wants and thinks people will come to!  It's their baby!
<snip>


Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to 
work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.

I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.

-Scott

I have 3 cases of pretzels. Anybody need some pretzels? I'll bring a case to the board meeting if I remember it. The rest can go to Powell?

David Young
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Powell would be a really good place for them....

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:43 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: stuff


I have 3 cases of pretzels. Anybody need some pretzels? I'll bring a case to
the board meeting if I remember it. The rest can go to Powell?

David Young
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News Release: 2003-001

Earth & Asteroid Play Orbital Cat and Mouse Game

The first asteroid discovered to orbit the Sun in nearly the same path
as Earth will make its closest approach to our planet this month
before scurrying away for 95 years.

The space rock, measuring about 60 meters (approximately 200 feet)
across, is like a mouse teasing a cat. According to an international
team of astronomers, including a researcher from NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., the asteroid approaches the Earth,
first on one side and then on the other. The team's report appeared in
the October 2002 issue of the journal Meteoritics & Planetary Science.

The asteroid, named 2002 AA29, traces an unusual horseshoe pattern
relative to Earth. The asteroid alternately leads and follows Earth
around the Sun without ever passing it.
"In some ways, the Earth and this asteroid are like two racecars on a
circular track," said JPL's Dr. Paul Chodas, who discovered the
object's unusual motion. "Right now the
asteroid is on a slightly slower track just outside Earth's, and our
planet is catching up."

On January 8, 2003, the tiny body will come within approximately 5.9
million kilometers (3.7 million miles) of Earth, its closest approach
for almost a century. "Unlike racecars, the two bodies will not pass
when they approach each other," Chodas said. "Instead, the combined
gravitational effects of the Earth and Sun will nudge the asteroid
onto a slightly faster track just inside Earth's, and it will begin to
pull ahead."

In 95 years, the asteroid will have advanced all the way around to
where it is catching up to Earth from behind. A similar interaction
with gravity from both Earth and the Sun will then push the asteroid
back onto a slower outside track, and the pattern will repeat. To an
observer moving with the Earth, the asteroid appears to trace out a
horseshoe pattern.

"There's no possibility that this asteroid could hit Earth, because
Earth's gravity rebuffs its periodic advances and keeps it at bay,"
said Dr. Don Yeomans, JPL manager of
NASA's Near Earth Objects Program Office. "The asteroid and Earth take
turns sneaking up on each other, but they never get too close."

The team's calculations show that in about 600 years, the asteroid may
begin looping around Earth like a tiny, distant quasi-moon. "The
asteroid will appear to orbit the Earth at that time, but in fact it
will be too far away to be considered a true satellite of our planet,"
Chodas said. "Our calculations indicate the space rock will circle the
Earth as a quasi-satellite for about 40 years before resuming its
horseshoe orbital pattern."

Other members of the team investigating this object include Dr. Martin
Connors, Athabasca University, Canada; Dr. Seppo Mikkola, University
of Turku, Finland; Dr. Paul Wiegert, Queen's University, Canada; Dr.
Christian Veillet, Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope, Hawaii; and Dr. Kim
A. Innanen, York University, Canada.

JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in
Pasadena, Calif.

-end-

I will be there. I will bring bagel chips for everyone to munch on. Let's 
have another meteor shower foodfest like the Leonids.

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...) 
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In a message dated 1/2/03 6:48:41 AM, ASKC@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< 
Message: 6
   Date: 1 Jan 2003 23:02:17 -0000
   From: ASKC
Subject: Reminder - Quadrantid Shower Party


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Quadrantid Shower Party 

Date: Friday, January 3, 2003 
Time: 5:00PM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Quadrantid Meteor shower star party at Powell 

 




________________________________________________________________________ >>

Scott-
I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of the
AstroQuest award objects.
I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find the
latest version here at home.
Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
Or did I just miss it...
Thanks,
Kathy
----- Original Message -----
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


>
> Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
>
> I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
>
> -Scott
>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /ASKCs Astro-Quest.doc 
  Uploaded by : stripe1966 <skranz@...> 
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You can access this file at the URL

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Regards,

stripe1966 <skranz@...>
 

New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section now.

Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do we have laying around? 
When was the last one given out?

-Scott

Kathy wrote:
> 
> Scott-
> I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of the
> AstroQuest award objects.
> I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find the
> latest version here at home.
> Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> Or did I just miss it...
> Thanks,
> Kathy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <skranz@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> >
> > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> >
> > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
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Well, I wanted to get a variance for the part of building 'your own
observatory.'  I've designed three and have built three.  Could I
substitute them for that requirement?  That would complete the points
for the award.

Joe

Yeah I think that would work.  It may not be YOUR own observatory, but you did build them.  It's up
to the Education Committee Chairperson.

JSWright wrote:
> 
> Well, I wanted to get a variance for the part of building 'your own
> observatory.'  I've designed three and have built three.  Could I
> substitute them for that requirement?  That would complete the points
> for the award.
> 
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I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


> New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
now.
>
> Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
we have laying around?
> When was the last one given out?
>
> -Scott
>
> Kathy wrote:
> >
> > Scott-
> > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
the
> > AstroQuest award objects.
> > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
the
> > latest version here at home.
> > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > Or did I just miss it...
> > Thanks,
> > Kathy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > >
> > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > >
> > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > >
> > > -Scott
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Alert!!!!!  Where are the Atro-Quest pins??????????????  They need to get to Sharon.  Also, I will
print up a bunch of Astro-Quest forms for you at the Board Meeting next week Thursday.

Who was the Ed. Comm. Chair before Sharon?

The ASKC Astro-Quest is suppose to be the property of the Education Committee.

SHARON GOODE wrote:
> 
> I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
> any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
> We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
> have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
> now.
> >
> > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
> we have laying around?
> > When was the last one given out?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > Kathy wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott-
> > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
> the
> > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
> the
> > > latest version here at home.
> > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
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I got a message from Mike Cofer today.  He wife gave birth to a 
little girl, 8 lbs 11 oz if memory serves me correctly.

Congrats Mike

Joe

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:
> Who was the Ed. Comm. Chair before Sharon?

hmmm....
don't have any old directories laying around, but wasn't it Debbie
Harrelson??
I looked through some old CM's, but Fiske quit listing the committee
chairs in the info box, so that was no help.

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "sc285 <webmaster@l...>" <webmaster@l...>
wrote:
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:
> > Who was the Ed. Comm. Chair before Sharon?
> hmmm....
> don't have any old directories laying around, but wasn't it Debbie
> Harrelson??

How about Elizabeth Brown??????

Rob

Elizabeth Brown after Jackie Beucher I think.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mailto:sc285 <webmaster@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:22 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "sc285 <webmaster@l...>" <webmaster@l...>
  wrote:
  > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:
  > > Who was the Ed. Comm. Chair before Sharon?
  > hmmm....
  > don't have any old directories laying around, but wasn't it Debbie
  > Harrelson??

  How about Elizabeth Brown??????

  Rob


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Finally got down  to the observatory around 11. Sorry, I missed some of you 
guys sorry. 
How did you guys do? Tim said you guys one real great one. 11:40-12:40 CT
 I got an hour in before the clouds came in and overwhelmed the sky.
Saw 2 quads and 2 sporadics.
First quad one was like an earthgrazer long and slow. Nice -2 white fireball 
below Jupiter at 12:14
It was worth a shot. 
check out


Quadrantid Project page

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Quadrantid FLASH page

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http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7enews/releases/jan03/dark-energy.shtml



THE PATH OF EARTH'S ASTEROID COMPANION

------------------------- 

Asteroid 2002 AA29 happens to share almost the same orbit as the Earth as it 

goes around the Sun, getting closer and further as it interacts with our 
planet's 

gravity. On January 8, 2003, the asteroid will make its closest approach for 

almost a century, getting only 5.9 million kilometers away from us. There is 

no possibility that it can ever hit our planet, though, as interference from 

the Earth's gravity keeps it at bay - causing it to trace out a strange 
horseshoe 

shape as it goes around the Sun.


http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2003/1.cfm

I found my copy of the latest AstroQuest version -- revised in January 1998.
It added 4 more items, and some clarifications. Such as getting points for
an activity only once. So no matter how many times you look at M13, you only
get one point. But hey, looking at M13 is its own reward!
I will try to post the updated version to the files area, if I figure out
how to do it.
Kathy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


> New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
now.
>
> Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
we have laying around?
> When was the last one given out?
>
> -Scott
>
> Kathy wrote:
> >
> > Scott-
> > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
the
> > AstroQuest award objects.
> > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
the
> > latest version here at home.
> > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > Or did I just miss it...
> > Thanks,
> > Kathy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > >
> > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > >
> > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /ASKCs Astro-Quest1998.rtf 
  Uploaded by : darwinfan2001 <kmachin@...> 
  Description : ASKC-AstroQuest Revised 

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKCs%20Astro-Quest1998.rtf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

darwinfan2001 <kmachin@...>
 

Yo Joe. I see by the asteroid reports the new members must have left fairly early. Can you go over that new light switch setup again for me? 

I'm bummed this morning. No water system work to do. New equipment yard not ready to move into. No one to go to the computer sale with. My redneck calendar doubled up Saturday and Sunday so no new stupid jokes. (so far my favorite is "You might be a redneck if tidying up your yard involves a tow truck.)

Damn, I have no choice but to go after all this paper work sitting here on my desk. YUCK! Then again, I just found a $500 check I forgot was here. I'll dig more!

David Young
dyoung8@...


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That is correct... or close enough!  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 5:51 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


Elizabeth Brown after Jackie Beucher I think.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mailto:sc285 <webmaster@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:22 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "sc285 <webmaster@l...>" <webmaster@l...>
  wrote:
  > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Kranz <skranz@w...> wrote:
  > > Who was the Ed. Comm. Chair before Sharon?
  > hmmm....
  > don't have any old directories laying around, but wasn't it Debbie
  > Harrelson??

  How about Elizabeth Brown??????

  Rob


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Dave:

Mitch and I set up the switch this way.  The center switch at the door
is the main on/off power for the spot lights and red lights.  We put a
dimmer on the spots and left the reds on a the existing 3 way switch
over by the projector screen.  We suspect that the 3 way switch at the
door is bad.  We're wondering if there isn't a bad ground in that
circuit that is causing the lights to flicker.  When the door 3 way was
switch to off, the dead lead was getting 22V at the other end.  Not
good, hmmm?  That wire has been removed from the east wall switch and a
scotch lock twist nut put on it.  I did pick up a 3 way dimmer switch,
it is in the closet.  Thanks to goes to Randy.  He kept everyone in the
dome busy observing while Mitch and I did the wiring.  The guy was in
there a few hours without a break.  We had about a dozen visitors last
night.  Apparently there was some cofusion.  Some were under the
impression that a spontaneous star party was organize by some one to see
Saturn and the nebula and showed for that.  Randy oblige.  Some club
members, some public.  The LCT was used by some of the members last
night.  The word about it is getting out.  Good! We had a great time
with everyone last night.    Randy will meet the exterminator on
Monday.  The carpet has been pulled back.  By the way.  Them little
devils are along the bottom of the wall behind the wall base.

Those that made the training:
Randy Thompsom
Tim Kristl
Dave Dembinski
Scott Kranz
Mitch Glaze
Richard Fredrick


Joe


David Young wrote:

>  Yo Joe. I see by the asteroid reports the new members must have left
> fairly early. Can you go over that new light switch setup again for
> me?
>
> I'm bummed this morning. No water system work to do. New equipment
> yard not ready to move into. No one to go to the computer sale with.
> My redneck calendar doubled up Saturday and Sunday so no new stupid
> jokes. (so far my favorite is "You might be a redneck if tidying up
> your yard involves a tow truck.)
>
> Damn, I have no choice but to go after all this paper work sitting
> here on my desk. YUCK! Then again, I just found a $500 check I forgot
> was here. I'll dig more!
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>
>
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David,
If finders is keepers, I will be happy to go through that desk for you!!!
Tim


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Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest pins
left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is our
observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award, but
probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds like
a good idea to me!

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


> New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
now.
>
> Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
we have laying around?
> When was the last one given out?
>
> -Scott
>
> Kathy wrote:
> >
> > Scott-
> > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
the
> > AstroQuest award objects.
> > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
the
> > latest version here at home.
> > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > Or did I just miss it...
> > Thanks,
> > Kathy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > >
> > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > >
> > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
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Joe,
       Since you are into signs these days, what about putting small labels 
on the wall switch as you come into the classroom.   I have always been 
confused as to whether I am likely to turn on the red lights or the white 
ones.  And they seem to be backward, meaning that up is off and down is on.  
Maybe that is because they are on a 3 way and I was not aware of where the 
other switch was.  
       Why do new observatory director's always get more suggestions than 
they can handle?????
Tim  


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Look for those missing slides, too, David.    :-)

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] LCT update


Yo Joe. I see by the asteroid reports the new members must have left fairly
early. Can you go over that new light switch setup again for me?

I'm bummed this morning. No water system work to do. New equipment yard not
ready to move into. No one to go to the computer sale with. My redneck
calendar doubled up Saturday and Sunday so no new stupid jokes. (so far my
favorite is "You might be a redneck if tidying up your yard involves a tow
truck.)

Damn, I have no choice but to go after all this paper work sitting here on
my desk. YUCK! Then again, I just found a $500 check I forgot was here. I'll
dig more!

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Tim:

I took a red sharpie and put F for florescent, R/S for red/spot and O
for outside over the door under each switch.
We turned the switch up side down so they would be normal to most folks.

Joe

TKristl100@... wrote:

>  Joe,
>        Since you are into signs these days, what about putting small
> labels
> on the wall switch as you come into the classroom.   I have always
> been
> confused as to whether I am likely to turn on the red lights or the
> white
> ones.  And they seem to be backward, meaning that up is off and down
> is on.
> Maybe that is because they are on a 3 way and I was not aware of where
> the
> other switch was.
>        Why do new observatory director's always get more suggestions
> than
> they can handle?????
> Tim
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Send it to me Kathy, please.   :-)

thanks

scott

Kathy wrote:
> 
> I found my copy of the latest AstroQuest version -- revised in January 1998.
> It added 4 more items, and some clarifications. Such as getting points for
> an activity only once. So no matter how many times you look at M13, you only
> get one point. But hey, looking at M13 is its own reward!
> I will try to post the updated version to the files area, if I figure out
> how to do it.
> Kathy
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
> now.
> >
> > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
> we have laying around?
> > When was the last one given out?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > Kathy wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott-
> > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
> the
> > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
> the
> > > latest version here at home.
> > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Darn it Joe. Now everyone knows about the secret switches. No wait a minute, you didn't tell them about the switches to the right of the marker board did you? 

I have a 4 sheet list of things made up for you to do.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] LCT update


  Tim:

  I took a red sharpie and put F for florescent, R/S for red/spot and O
  for outside over the door under each switch.
  We turned the switch up side down so they would be normal to most folks.

  Joe

  TKristl100@... wrote:

  >  Joe,
  >        Since you are into signs these days, what about putting small
  > labels
  > on the wall switch as you come into the classroom.   I have always
  > been
  > confused as to whether I am likely to turn on the red lights or the
  > white
  > ones.  And they seem to be backward, meaning that up is off and down
  > is on.
  > Maybe that is because they are on a 3 way and I was not aware of where
  > the
  > other switch was.
  >        Why do new observatory director's always get more suggestions
  > than
  > they can handle?????
  > Tim
  >
  >
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  From: Jackie Beucher 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] LCT update


  Look for those missing slides, too, David.    :-)

  Jackie



  They're with the mugs.
  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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There's actually noting in a desk. It's all on top of the counters. I've been composting for months but the stack seems to be staying the same.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TKristl100@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] LCT update


  David,
  If finders is keepers, I will be happy to go through that desk for you!!!
  Tim


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hmmmmm yeah I could handle that award if the Education Comm, Chair wants to have me do it. 
Afterall, it is a pretty inactive award.......  :(     Maybe that will change this year.  Well, then
we need to contact Elizabeth about the pins, because I also thought that the original order of pins
was quite a few.

Brain blast!!! Can the Historian or Recording Secretary go back into the Minutes and find the
original motion for the program?  It should state maybe how many pins were bought, or... the
Treasurer could go back and see if a huge check was written for pins.  The books might say how many
were ordered.  It was probably sometime early- to mid-1995.  I received certificate #3 and it was
dated November 25, 1995.

I'd hate to order more pins..... they get expensive.

-Scott

Jackie Beucher wrote:
> 
> Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest pins
> left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
> egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is our
> observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award, but
> probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds like
> a good idea to me!
> 
> Jackie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
> any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
> We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
> have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files section
> now.
> >
> > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
> we have laying around?
> > When was the last one given out?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > Kathy wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott-
> > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy of
> the
> > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't find
> the
> > > latest version here at home.
> > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > >
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I can do it or you can do it with all the others.  Makes me no difference.
I really had forgotten about it or would have asked for the education
equipment.  I have a lot of things going right now but as you say it is
pretty inactive.  Maybe we can get together and come up with a new one and
still use the same pins as before.  Just a thought, but we need to find out
how many pins we have first. I don't remember what number my certificate is
but it seems it was under 20.  I will be at the board meeting on thursday so
we can discuss what needs to be done.  Sharon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


> hmmmmm yeah I could handle that award if the Education Comm, Chair wants
to have me do it.
> Afterall, it is a pretty inactive award.......  :(     Maybe that will
change this year.  Well, then
> we need to contact Elizabeth about the pins, because I also thought that
the original order of pins
> was quite a few.
>
> Brain blast!!! Can the Historian or Recording Secretary go back into the
Minutes and find the
> original motion for the program?  It should state maybe how many pins were
bought, or... the
> Treasurer could go back and see if a huge check was written for pins.  The
books might say how many
> were ordered.  It was probably sometime early- to mid-1995.  I received
certificate #3 and it was
> dated November 25, 1995.
>
> I'd hate to order more pins..... they get expensive.
>
> -Scott
>
> Jackie Beucher wrote:
> >
> > Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest
pins
> > left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
> > egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is
our
> > observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award,
but
> > probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds
like
> > a good idea to me!
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins
or
> > any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous
chair.
> > We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If
you
> > have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files
section
> > now.
> > >
> > > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins
do
> > we have laying around?
> > > When was the last one given out?
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > Kathy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott-
> > > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy
of
> > the
> > > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't
find
> > the
> > > > latest version here at home.
> > > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kathy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members
to
> > > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott
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Dave:

I hope those 4 sheets are made with those itty-bitty post it notes.

David Young wrote:

>  Darn it Joe. Now everyone knows about the secret switches. No wait a
> minute, you didn't tell them about the switches to the right of the
> marker board did you?
>
> I have a 4 sheet list of things made up for you to do.
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joe Wright
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] LCT update
>
>
>   Tim:
>
>   I took a red sharpie and put F for florescent, R/S for red/spot and
> O
>   for outside over the door under each switch.
>   We turned the switch up side down so they would be normal to most
> folks.
>
>   Joe
>
>   TKristl100@... wrote:
>
>   >  Joe,
>   >        Since you are into signs these days, what about putting
> small
>   > labels
>   > on the wall switch as you come into the classroom.   I have always
>
>   > been
>   > confused as to whether I am likely to turn on the red lights or
> the
>   > white
>   > ones.  And they seem to be backward, meaning that up is off and
> down
>   > is on.
>   > Maybe that is because they are on a 3 way and I was not aware of
> where
>   > the
>   > other switch was.
>   >        Why do new observatory director's always get more
> suggestions
>   > than
>   > they can handle?????
>   > Tim
>   >
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Her name is Andrea Beck.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 9:20 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] teams for 2003


More likely to get that info from Gina.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] teams for 2003


  Jackie:

  The young lady, Andrea, during the summer to be on my team.  Do you have
  her eamil?  I want to see if she is still interested and would be on any
  team.

  Thanks,

  Joe

  Jackie Beucher wrote:

  >  Joe -- My team #3 has:
  >
  > Rett Alonzi
  > Mike Stewart
  > Dan Johnson
  > David Newenschwander
  >
  > Jackie
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 7:30 AM
  > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [ASKC] teams for 2003
  >
  >
  > I'm starting to book reservations for 2003 and will need to get
  > keyholders
  > assigned and team rosters soon. Team leaders, how about helping Joe
  > out by
  > giving him an updated list of your team members.
  >
  > Team #2
  > David Young
  > David Brackey
  > Roger Gruenke
  > Mitch Glaze
  >
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
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Wow! Am I impressed.   You ought to be appointed observatory director!!!!
Tim


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Darn!  And I was already counting on those $500 checks!!
Tim


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Are we moving the General Meeting night for the star party?

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:57 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Star Party


At the December Board Meeting/Party, the Board decided to have the ASKC star
party on the weekend of June 28.

Dan,  or anyone,  Was the star party going to be a 3 night affair like last
year starting on the Thursday, June 26th, evening?

I don't remember Dan mentioning how many nights it would be.

-Scott






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There were about 100 pins bought.  I remember.  And, just an educated guess
says that we have no more than 30 awardees.

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:03 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


hmmmmm yeah I could handle that award if the Education Comm, Chair wants to
have me do it.
Afterall, it is a pretty inactive award.......  :(     Maybe that will
change this year.  Well, then
we need to contact Elizabeth about the pins, because I also thought that the
original order of pins
was quite a few.

Brain blast!!! Can the Historian or Recording Secretary go back into the
Minutes and find the
original motion for the program?  It should state maybe how many pins were
bought, or... the
Treasurer could go back and see if a huge check was written for pins.  The
books might say how many
were ordered.  It was probably sometime early- to mid-1995.  I received
certificate #3 and it was
dated November 25, 1995.

I'd hate to order more pins..... they get expensive.

-Scott

Jackie Beucher wrote:
>
> Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest
pins
> left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
> egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is
our
> observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award, but
> probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds
like
> a good idea to me!
>
> Jackie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
>
> I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
> any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
> We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
> have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
>
> > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files
section
> now.
> >
> > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
> we have laying around?
> > When was the last one given out?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > Kathy wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott-
> > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy
of
> the
> > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't
find
> the
> > > latest version here at home.
> > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kathy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
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Eric,

I took the orbital elements from the MPC and plugged 'em into SkyMap ... this asteroid is only 19.3 magnitude now, and doesn't really get any brighter in the near future.

I took a stab at imaging it early this AM but (no surprise) saw nothing on a 20 minute exposure with my 12" & ST7e.  It probably IS within the reach of the 30" and the Apogee camera.

-Dave




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>Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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>
>------------------------- 
>
>Asteroid 2002 AA29 happens to share almost the same orbit as the Earth as it 
>
>goes around the Sun, getting closer and further as it interacts with our 
>planet's 
>
>gravity. On January 8, 2003, the asteroid will make its closest approach for 
>
>almost a century, getting only 5.9 million kilometers away from us. There is 
>
>no possibility that it can ever hit our planet, though, as interference from 
>
>the Earth's gravity keeps it at bay - causing it to trace out a strange 
>horseshoe 
>
>shape as it goes around the Sun.
>
>
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My count shows 24 pins given out, the last being Stuart Riley.

Jackie Beucher wrote:
> 
> There were about 100 pins bought.  I remember.  And, just an educated guess
> says that we have no more than 30 awardees.
> 
> Jackie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:03 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> 
> hmmmmm yeah I could handle that award if the Education Comm, Chair wants to
> have me do it.
> Afterall, it is a pretty inactive award.......  :(     Maybe that will
> change this year.  Well, then
> we need to contact Elizabeth about the pins, because I also thought that the
> original order of pins
> was quite a few.
> 
> Brain blast!!! Can the Historian or Recording Secretary go back into the
> Minutes and find the
> original motion for the program?  It should state maybe how many pins were
> bought, or... the
> Treasurer could go back and see if a huge check was written for pins.  The
> books might say how many
> were ordered.  It was probably sometime early- to mid-1995.  I received
> certificate #3 and it was
> dated November 25, 1995.
> 
> I'd hate to order more pins..... they get expensive.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> Jackie Beucher wrote:
> >
> > Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest
> pins
> > left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
> > egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is
> our
> > observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award, but
> > probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds
> like
> > a good idea to me!
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins or
> > any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous chair.
> > We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If you
> > have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files
> section
> > now.
> > >
> > > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins do
> > we have laying around?
> > > When was the last one given out?
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > Kathy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott-
> > > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy
> of
> > the
> > > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't
> find
> > the
> > > > latest version here at home.
> > > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kathy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members to
> > > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott
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Yeah, we are moving the General Meeting to June 14th.

We need to start advertising this at this month's GM and also in this month's Cosmic Messenger (or
next).

Jackie Beucher wrote:
> 
> Are we moving the General Meeting night for the star party?
> 
> Jackie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Star Party
> 
> At the December Board Meeting/Party, the Board decided to have the ASKC star
> party on the weekend of June 28.
> 
> Dan,  or anyone,  Was the star party going to be a 3 night affair like last
> year starting on the Thursday, June 26th, evening?
> 
> I don't remember Dan mentioning how many nights it would be.
> 
> -Scott
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Richard Frederick said he imaged it last  night (Saturday), and it was 
between 20th and 21st magnitude and quite difficult to find.

Roger

At 07:00 PM 1/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>I took the orbital elements from the MPC and plugged 'em into SkyMap ... 
>this asteroid is only 19.3 magnitude now, and doesn't really get any 
>brighter in the near future.
>
>I took a stab at imaging it early this AM but (no surprise) saw nothing on 
>a 20 minute exposure with my 12" & ST7e.  It probably IS within the reach 
>of the 30" and the Apogee camera.
>
>-Dave
>
>
>
>
>KCStarguy@... wrote:
>
> >will it be possible to try to image this and how bright might it get?
> >Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
> >webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website -
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> email
> >to blacksuneclipse-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >THE PATH OF EARTH'S ASTEROID COMPANION
> >
> >-------------------------
> >
> >Asteroid 2002 AA29 happens to share almost the same orbit as the Earth 
> as it
> >
> >goes around the Sun, getting closer and further as it interacts with our
> >planet's
> >
> >gravity. On January 8, 2003, the asteroid will make its closest approach 
> for
> >
> >almost a century, getting only 5.9 million kilometers away from us. 
> There is
> >
> >no possibility that it can ever hit our planet, though, as interference 
> from
> >
> >the Earth's gravity keeps it at bay - causing it to trace out a strange
> >horseshoe
> >
> >shape as it goes around the Sun.
> >
> >
> >http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2003/1.cfm
> >
> >
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The Astro Quest award is a good one, in my opinion.   It just hasn't been
"advertised" in recent years.   The award gives points for observing, but
also for getting involved in some club activities.  It's a good way to get
folks involved...
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:12 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


I can do it or you can do it with all the others.  Makes me no difference.
I really had forgotten about it or would have asked for the education
equipment.  I have a lot of things going right now but as you say it is
pretty inactive.  Maybe we can get together and come up with a new one and
still use the same pins as before.  Just a thought, but we need to find out
how many pins we have first. I don't remember what number my certificate is
but it seems it was under 20.  I will be at the board meeting on thursday so
we can discuss what needs to be done.  Sharon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?


> hmmmmm yeah I could handle that award if the Education Comm, Chair wants
to have me do it.
> Afterall, it is a pretty inactive award.......  :(     Maybe that will
change this year.  Well, then
> we need to contact Elizabeth about the pins, because I also thought that
the original order of pins
> was quite a few.
>
> Brain blast!!! Can the Historian or Recording Secretary go back into the
Minutes and find the
> original motion for the program?  It should state maybe how many pins were
bought, or... the
> Treasurer could go back and see if a huge check was written for pins.  The
books might say how many
> were ordered.  It was probably sometime early- to mid-1995.  I received
certificate #3 and it was
> dated November 25, 1995.
>
> I'd hate to order more pins..... they get expensive.
>
> -Scott
>
> Jackie Beucher wrote:
> >
> > Then, Elizabeth has those supplies -- there are quite a few AstroQuest
pins
> > left, as I recall.   She can fill us in, but I'm not sure that she is on
> > egroups...?   Maybe those pins and records should go to Scott, as he is
our
> > observing awards chair?  The Education Committee developed that award,
but
> > probably shouldn't keep it's maintenance under their umbrella.  sounds
like
> > a good idea to me!
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:54 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > I Sharon Goode am the education committee chair.  I have no quest pins
or
> > any requirement lying around.  I received nothing from the previous
chair.
> > We are working on some programs for scouts as well as memberships.  If
you
> > have any questions please email me at woodshopg@...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> >
> > > New version?  hmmmmm the latest version i had is out in the files
section
> > now.
> > >
> > > Who is the Education Committee Chair?  How many ASKC Astro-Quest pins
do
> > we have laying around?
> > > When was the last one given out?
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > Kathy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Scott-
> > > > I was checking the files area of Yahoo groups and didn't find a copy
of
> > the
> > > > AstroQuest award objects.
> > > > I know we revised it a few years ago to add some items, but I can't
find
> > the
> > > > latest version here at home.
> > > > Could you, or someone else put it in the files area?
> > > > Or did I just miss it...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Kathy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <skranz@...>
> > > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:44 AM
> > > > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Regular Club Observing Program for 2003?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Definitely need to make a couple of these "programs" for members
to
> > > > > work on the ASKC's Astro-Quest program.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it's quite a while since we've had one of those awarded.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott
> > > > >
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The 2003 ASKC Star Party will be held 3 nights(just like last year). 
Beginning June 26-29.  Dan Johnson

Hello, all.  Jackie called me Sunday nite and said there was 
discussion about the pins, etc.  Yes, I have the pins and the 
certificates.  I would have to check my computer at work to see how 
many have been given out, but I just counted the pins and there are 
69 left, so no need to order any more!  I think that Scott is right, 
Stuart Riley may have been the last person to get the award.

The award is a very nice one and not that hard to work on.  It's a 
good introduction to lunar, Messier and deep sky observing and would 
fit in well with any theme for monthly member starparties.

IF I can make it to the Board meeting this Thursday, I'll bring the 
pins and certificates.  I think there is also a "template" for 
printing the certificates, I'll check my PC at work for that too.

I'm fighting some kind of flu bug :(  so I hope I can make the 
Board.  If not, then I'll bring the stuff to the next General Meeting.

Eliz

One thing that the Club might consider doing this year is to 
designate August as "Mars Month".  We have some great slides in the 
library as well as the "Mars in 3-D" slides which are great fun.  I 
would suggest that every public nite during August be focused on Mars 
using one of those canned programs.  Get all the publicity we can 
get, i.e. have Gary Lezak (?) or somebody come down to Powell that 
month?  Might be a way to pick up some new members, too.

We could generate some funds......, as there will probably be lots of 
news about it anyway, heck, a telescope maker is already drumming up 
business about it.

I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is 
there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was 
for the 1988 watch.  Hey, if so we should inform the membership and 
get folks excited about it. 


Maybe even create our own "Mars" award like we did for Hale-Bopp.

I also think we should plan on the August General Meeting to be 
focused on Mars, get some special speaker lined up.  This could be a 
great opportunity to have some fun and raise $$$, y'all!!!!

Eliz

Hi,
I am a newer member to the ASKC and am interested in helping on one 
of the teams if there is any openings.

Paul Thompson  

I had a meeting with Bob Zoog tonight the site on 281st is still available for our use on a temporary basis. 
I left a copy of the lease agreement  Tim Crystal put together for us with  the ranch owner over the weekend for Him to review. I hope to hear from him before the board meeting. In the meantime feel free to go to the old dark site to observe.

   Larry Goode
.

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I have placed on the website under "KC SKY INFO", links to SEDS and
ALPO websites which has tons of information on Mars, Observing,
Exploration, etc. What I am finding when searching for links, are that
most of them are out of date, and have nothing about 2003. The only
current one is ALPO. If you know of any other links, which has 2003
information, AND which is a permanent site page for the whole year,
please forward the URL to me. I will add it to the page.



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stardustiam2 <eabrown@p...>"
<eabrown@p...> wrote:
> One thing that the Club might consider doing this year is to 
> designate August as "Mars Month".  We have some great slides in the 
> library as well as the "Mars in 3-D" slides which are great fun.  I 
> would suggest that every public nite during August be focused on Mars 
> using one of those canned programs.  Get all the publicity we can 
> get, i.e. have Gary Lezak (?) or somebody come down to Powell that 
> month?  Might be a way to pick up some new members, too.
> 
> We could generate some funds......, as there will probably be lots of 
> news about it anyway, heck, a telescope maker is already drumming up 
> business about it.
> 
> I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is 
> there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was 
> for the 1988 watch.  Hey, if so we should inform the membership and 
> get folks excited about it. 
> 
> 
> Maybe even create our own "Mars" award like we did for Hale-Bopp.
> 
> I also think we should plan on the August General Meeting to be 
> focused on Mars, get some special speaker lined up.  This could be a 
> great opportunity to have some fun and raise $$$, y'all!!!!
> 
> Eliz

Bring it all along if you can.  I'll go ahead and coordinate this award in the future since I do the rest.  

If you have a list of awardees, their certificate number, and certificate date, that would be great!  Otherwise, EVERYONE who has this award should find their certificate, and let me know what date is printed on it.

If you have a template for the certiificate, that would be helpful, otherwise I can look at my certificate and make up a new one.

-Scott

>>> eabrown@... 01/06/03 08:12PM >>>
Hello, all.  Jackie called me Sunday nite and said there was 
discussion about the pins, etc.  Yes, I have the pins and the 
certificates.  I would have to check my computer at work to see how 
many have been given out, but I just counted the pins and there are 
69 left, so no need to order any more!  I think that Scott is right, 
Stuart Riley may have been the last person to get the award.

The award is a very nice one and not that hard to work on.  It's a 
good introduction to lunar, Messier and deep sky observing and would 
fit in well with any theme for monthly member starparties.

IF I can make it to the Board meeting this Thursday, I'll bring the 
pins and certificates.  I think there is also a "template" for 
printing the certificates, I'll check my PC at work for that too.

I'm fighting some kind of flu bug :(  so I hope I can make the 
Board.  If not, then I'll bring the stuff to the next General Meeting.

Eliz




 

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<snip>
I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is 
there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was 
<snip>

There is no League observing award specifically for Mars, but the Planetary Observers Award does have a large section devoted to Mars.  If any of you haven't checked out this award program, pick up a form at the next General Meeting - lots of cool planetary projects.

-scott

Great ideas, Elizabeth.   To clarify, the League never had a Mars Watch
observing award.  The patches ASKC members got in 1988 were strictly local,
for their work at that time, doing observations of Mars.  The League has the
Planetary Award, which includes Mars.   We could focus in on that segment of
the award on member nights this summer.  
 
I'm sure we will be discussing this Thursday at the Board Meeting!
 
Jackie  

-----Original Message-----
From: stardustiam2 <eabrown@...> [mailto:eabrown@...]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:23 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Mars Parties


One thing that the Club might consider doing this year is to 
designate August as "Mars Month".  We have some great slides in the 
library as well as the "Mars in 3-D" slides which are great fun.  I 
would suggest that every public nite during August be focused on Mars 
using one of those canned programs.  Get all the publicity we can 
get, i.e. have Gary Lezak (?) or somebody come down to Powell that 
month?  Might be a way to pick up some new members, too.

We could generate some funds......, as there will probably be lots of 
news about it anyway, heck, a telescope maker is already drumming up 
business about it.

I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is 
there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was 
for the 1988 watch.  Hey, if so we should inform the membership and 
get folks excited about it. 


Maybe even create our own "Mars" award like we did for Hale-Bopp.

I also think we should plan on the August General Meeting to be 
focused on Mars, get some special speaker lined up.  This could be a 
great opportunity to have some fun and raise $$$, y'all!!!!

Eliz



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Wow, Scott.   We almost said identical things!  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Mars Parties


<snip>
I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is 
there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was 
<snip>

There is no League observing award specifically for Mars, but the Planetary
Observers Award does have a large section devoted to Mars.  If any of you
haven't checked out this award program, pick up a form at the next General
Meeting - lots of cool planetary projects.

-scott



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I have two requests for school science nights. Both are on January 30 at 6:00. The space time continuum will not allow me to be at both. Any volunteers for one or the other of these? Yes this is a fund raiser for the ASKC.

Brookwood school  I'd prefer to do this one myself
103rd and Mission

SanteFe Trail
7100 Lamar


David Young
dyoung8@...


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Hi Paul, Glad to hear you want to help. Joe Wright, the Observatory
Director,  will see your message here and assign you to a team.

Clear Skies,

Randy  Thompson


  -----Original Message-----
  From: pjtom5 <ptom@...> [mailto:ptom@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:06 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] teams


  Hi,
  I am a newer member to the ASKC and am interested in helping on one
  of the teams if there is any openings.

  Paul Thompson




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The education committee meets before the general meeting at UMKC at 5:30pm, Royall Hall.  All are invited to come and bring ideas.  Keep in mind we have a budget of $100.00.

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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Board Meeting 

Date: Thursday, January 9, 2003 
Time: 7:00PM CST (GMT-06:00) 

January Board of Directors Meeting 

 

Jackie,
Does that mean that you and Scott are twins who were separated at birth???
Chuckle, chuckle???
Tim


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"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>I have two requests for school science nights. Both are on January 30 at 6:00. The space time continuum will not allow me to be at both. Any volunteers for one or the other of these? 
>
>SanteFe Trail
>7100 Lamar
>
>I'd be happy to help with this one. 

>
>
>

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Hummm...   Let's see.... I was (allegedly) born in July of 1947, the same
month as the famous Roswell incident.... Hummmmm.....A twin COULD have been
born years later....  Anything is possible, huh?!?
jackie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:10 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Mars Parties


Jackie,
Does that mean that you and Scott are twins who were separated at birth???
Chuckle, chuckle???
Tim


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Well, if you allow for an Einstein-Rosen bridge possibility.....

  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:29 AM
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
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  Hummm...   Let's see.... I was (allegedly) born in July of 1947, the same
  month as the famous Roswell incident.... Hummmmm.....A twin COULD have
been
  born years later....  Anything is possible, huh?!?
  jackie

  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:10 PM
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  Tim


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David

What does SanteFe Trail want done? 

I have a consulting gig that day but I might be able to do it later . If someone else can do it fine.
Dr.Eric
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Message: 5
  Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:13:40 -0600
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: science nights

I have two requests for school science nights. Both are on January 30 at 6:00. The space time continuum will not allow me to be at both. Any volunteers for one or the other of these? Yes this is a fund raiser for the ASKC.

Brookwood school  I'd prefer to do this one myself
103rd and Mission

SanteFe Trail
7100 Lamar


David Young
dyoung8@...

Has anyone else receive a "malicious script" message when attempting to open the two astroquest files that
were uploaded to the file area within the last couple of days?  Norton makes a message appears for both of these regarding a malicious script-the explanation given was that this may be a virus???

Carroll


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I just downloaded both versions. I run Nortons antivirus software and did not get any warning message.
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  From: Carroll Iorg 
  To: ASKC Yahoo Groups 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:00 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] malicious script message from files in file area


  Has anyone else receive a "malicious script" message when attempting to open the two astroquest files that
  were uploaded to the file area within the last couple of days?  Norton makes a message appears for both of these regarding a malicious script-the explanation given was that this may be a virus???

  Carroll


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Anyone heard from Bill Boyle lately? If not we will need to delay action on his fund raising proposal again.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Bill is finally back from his 3 week vacation to Houston and Florida.   I spoke to him last night and he was probably going to come to the board meeting tonight.
Tim

Since I couldn't make the board meeting tonight, I'll bring the stuff 
to the January meeting.

Eliz



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> Bring it all along if you can.  I'll go ahead and coordinate this 
award in the future since I do the rest.  
> 
> If you have a list of awardees, their certificate number, and 
certificate date, that would be great!  Otherwise, EVERYONE who has 
this award should find their certificate, and let me know what date 
is printed on it.
> 
> If you have a template for the certiificate, that would be helpful, 
otherwise I can look at my certificate and make up a new one.
> 
> 

I have been lurking on this forum for a while and have gone to Powell 
only 3 times since I've joined the ASKC. I really would like to get 
out there more often, but since I haven't been trained with anything 
I've been hesitant to go. I was wondering if anyone would mind 
helping me out with teaching me how to use some of the equipment?

Endeavour3d,

Are you looking to get skills on the Powell equipment per se, or with
telescopes in general?


  -----Original Message-----
  From: endeavour3d <endeavour3d@...> [mailto:endeavour3d@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:03 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment without
having to annoy others


  I have been lurking on this forum for a while and have gone to Powell
  only 3 times since I've joined the ASKC. I really would like to get
  out there more often, but since I haven't been trained with anything
  I've been hesitant to go. I was wondering if anyone would mind
  helping me out with teaching me how to use some of the equipment?






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Endeavour3D --
 
First,... who are you?
 
Second...  Joe Wright, Observ. Director, is having training sessions on
Saturday's at Powell.   But, I don't know if that is every Saturday.
Joe...?   When are the training sessions?
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@...]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:40 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment without
having to annoy others


Endeavour3d,

Are you looking to get skills on the Powell equipment per se, or with
telescopes in general?


  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:03 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment without
having to annoy others


  I have been lurking on this forum for a while and have gone to Powell
  only 3 times since I've joined the ASKC. I really would like to get
  out there more often, but since I haven't been trained with anything
  I've been hesitant to go. I was wondering if anyone would mind
  helping me out with teaching me how to use some of the equipment?






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Anyone who wants to design artwork for the Comet Pin please submit.

Dr.Eric Flescher
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well first, I'm Morgan, my dad and I recently became members, we are 
very new to scene so we don't know anything past what we've studied 
on our own. I mainly would like to learn how to use the LCT and the 
big 30" Unless there is some protocol which I have to follow such as 
needing to learn something smaller first? I basically just want to 
jump right in and start looking into the sky..






--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@e...> wrote:
> Endeavour3D --
>  
> First,... who are you?
>  
> Second...  Joe Wright, Observ. Director, is having training 
sessions on
> Saturday's at Powell.   But, I don't know if that is every Saturday.
> Joe...?   When are the training sessions?
>  
> Jackie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@k...]
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:40 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment 
without
> having to annoy others
> 
> 
> Endeavour3d,
> 
> Are you looking to get skills on the Powell equipment per se, or 
with
> telescopes in general?
> 
> 

Hi, Morgan...
 
Then, you need to watch this egroup for the announcements of the training
sessions down at Powell.   Or contact Joe Wright directly, and he can tell
you a good time to come down.   You want to learn the telescopes, but not
necessarily learn how to run the whole place.   That can be arranged!  
 
And if you would please sign your name to all emails.   It's hard to know
who is sending them, because all we have to go on is the email address.
"endeavour3d" doesn't give us a clue...   Mine  (at home) is
<mailto:m31@...> mailto:m31@..., so I always sign my name.  We will
get to remember who is who, but since we have new people joining us all the
time, it remains a good idea to sign your name to your emails...   
 
Come and introduce yourself to me at the next meeting -- I'd love to meet
you!
 
Jackie (I'm the only Jackie in the club, I think....)
 

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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:36 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: I would like to learn how to use the equipment without
having to annoy others


well first, I'm Morgan, my dad and I recently became members, we are 
very new to scene so we don't know anything past what we've studied 
on our own. I mainly would like to learn how to use the LCT and the 
big 30" Unless there is some protocol which I have to follow such as 
needing to learn something smaller first? I basically just want to 
jump right in and start looking into the sky..






--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@e...> wrote:
> Endeavour3D --
>  
> First,... who are you?
>  
> Second...  Joe Wright, Observ. Director, is having training 
sessions on
> Saturday's at Powell.   But, I don't know if that is every Saturday.
> Joe...?   When are the training sessions?
>  
> Jackie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@k...]
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:40 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment 
without
> having to annoy others
> 
> 
> Endeavour3d,
> 
> Are you looking to get skills on the Powell equipment per se, or 
with
> telescopes in general?
> 
> 







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ok thanks, yeah, I don't want to know how to run the place, I just 
want to use the big toys hehe.



Thanks, Morgan--

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@e...> wrote:
> Hi, Morgan...
>  
> Then, you need to watch this egroup for the announcements of the 
training
> sessions down at Powell.   Or contact Joe Wright directly, and he 
can tell
> you a good time to come down.   You want to learn the telescopes, 
but not
> necessarily learn how to run the whole place.   That can be 
arranged!  
>  
> And if you would please sign your name to all emails.   It's hard 
to know
> who is sending them, because all we have to go on is the email 
address.
> "endeavour3d" doesn't give us a clue...   Mine  (at home) is
> <mailto:m31@s...> mailto:m31@s..., so I always sign my name.  We 
will
> get to remember who is who, but since we have new people joining us 
all the
> time, it remains a good idea to sign your name to your emails...   
>  
> Come and introduce yourself to me at the next meeting -- I'd love 
to meet
> you!
>  
> Jackie (I'm the only Jackie in the club, I think....)
>  
> 

Morgan:

Hi.  The next training will be on Saturday the 18th.  Learning the LCT
will only take a few minutes.  I believe I have met you and your father
several times at the observatory.  By Monday I will have the other dates
lined out.  Randy Thompson and Mitch Glaze will also be helping with
this task.  We will try to coordinate training dates for only new and
refresher training in the future.  The three of use will share spots
training.  Gee, it's nice to have good help.  I'll have to double their
pay.  :-)

If you have any other questions, please contact me at the address shown
on the email or call 816-483-2928.


Respectfully,

Joe

Do you folks see any reason we couldn't have a group of scouts at Powell on March 28 which is Messier marathon night? I could restrict the time they stay. We need the $$$. Call me greedy.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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I just updated the calendar on the yahoo site.

I have nights reserved for January 17, 18, 25, and 31 

The 25 is boy scouts and the 31 is a birthday party for Jim Duncan.

Any takers for any of these nights?

David Young
dyoung8@...


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It should be OK as long as there is someone inside to keep them busy.  Just might want to let them
know what is going on outside.

-Scott

David Young wrote:
> 
> Do you folks see any reason we couldn't have a group of scouts at Powell on March 28 which is
> Messier marathon night? I could restrict the time they stay. We need the $$$. Call me greedy.
> 
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
> 
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I received this one today, and wanted to pass it along. Sounds interesting.

Ed Flasoehler, AAAA

STARSHINE 3 RE-ENTRY BULLETIN

The Starshine project needs your help.  

Our Starshine 3 satellite is expected to come to the end of its orbital life 
in mid to late January 2003.  By then, it will have descended far enough into 
the earth's atmosphere that its 1500 student-polished aluminum mirrors and 
structural shell will experience intense aerodynamic heating.  At about 50 
kilometers (30 miles) above the earth, it will flare up and vaporize, like a 
slow-moving meteor. 

If this visually spectacular event occurs in your vicinity, under reasonably 
clear skies, and if you are outside, looking up at the right time, you might 
be able to see it and even photograph it.  If so, we need to know from you 
when it flamed out and where it was in your local sky at that time.  

Please go to our web site at www.azinet.com/starshine and read the 
information about this forthcoming Starshine special event. Your school or 
club might even win a scale model kit of the International Space Station for 
taking the best photograph or digital image or videotape of the Starshine 3 
fireball.

Gil Moore
Director
Project Starshine
Monument, Colorado, USA

I intend to be at Powell tonight for visual observing. I do not intend to stay late. Feel free to join me for a peek at Saturn, M-42 and Jupiter if I stay that long. I may also be tinkering with my coolpix for a while.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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I think it would be a great idea and I will be glad to help out.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:47 PM
Subject: [ASKC] scouts


> Do you folks see any reason we couldn't have a group of scouts at Powell
on March 28 which is Messier marathon night? I could restrict the time they
stay. We need the $$$. Call me greedy.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

Hey all!

You know what StarDate is, correct?  It's that daily 2 minute show on the radio sponsored by the
McDonald Observatory.

I have a collection of "The Best of StarDate" audio tapes.  I have the Best of 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94,
95, & 96.  Do you think the ASKC library could use something like this?  If not, they will probably
go on our next garage sale.

-Scott

How much did you plan to ask for in the garage sale? I'd like to listen to them before you get rid of them.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:50 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] StarDate tapes


  Hey all!

  You know what StarDate is, correct?  It's that daily 2 minute show on the radio sponsored by the
  McDonald Observatory.

  I have a collection of "The Best of StarDate" audio tapes.  I have the Best of 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94,
  95, & 96.  Do you think the ASKC library could use something like this?  If not, they will probably
  go on our next garage sale.

  -Scott

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Probably $10 for the whole works.  I have the 7 years, plus audio tape "Creation and Cosmic Order"
(Best of '97), and a daily show CD for the month of July 1994.

David Young wrote:
> 
> How much did you plan to ask for in the garage sale? I'd like to listen to them before you get rid
> of them.
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Scott Kranz
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:50 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] StarDate tapes
> 
>   Hey all!
> 
>   You know what StarDate is, correct?  It's that daily 2 minute show on the radio sponsored by the
>   McDonald Observatory.
> 
>   I have a collection of "The Best of StarDate" audio tapes.  I have the Best of 1990, 91, 92, 93,
> 94,
>   95, & 96.  Do you think the ASKC library could use something like this?  If not, they will
> probably
>   go on our next garage sale.
> 
>   -Scott
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I'll give ya the $10. Something to listen to in the pickup or the car on those long boring trips (slight well driller pun)
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] StarDate tapes


  Probably $10 for the whole works.  I have the 7 years, plus audio tape "Creation and Cosmic Order"
  (Best of '97), and a daily show CD for the month of July 1994.

  David Young wrote:
  > 
  > How much did you plan to ask for in the garage sale? I'd like to listen to them before you get rid
  > of them.
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Scott Kranz
  >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:50 PM
  >   Subject: [ASKC] StarDate tapes
  > 
  >   Hey all!
  > 
  >   You know what StarDate is, correct?  It's that daily 2 minute show on the radio sponsored by the
  >   McDonald Observatory.
  > 
  >   I have a collection of "The Best of StarDate" audio tapes.  I have the Best of 1990, 91, 92, 93,
  > 94,
  >   95, & 96.  Do you think the ASKC library could use something like this?  If not, they will
  > probably
  >   go on our next garage sale.
  > 
  >   -Scott
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If your off for the Holiday on Jan 20th, there will be a few members at the
Observatory doing maintenance. Someone should have time to help you with
some training. Someone should be at the Ob. by 9:00AM.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: endeavour3d <endeavour3d@...> [mailto:endeavour3d@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:03 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] I would like to learn how to use the equipment without
having to annoy others


  I have been lurking on this forum for a while and have gone to Powell
  only 3 times since I've joined the ASKC. I really would like to get
  out there more often, but since I haven't been trained with anything
  I've been hesitant to go. I was wondering if anyone would mind
  helping me out with teaching me how to use some of the equipment?






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I can't make it on the 18th for training. I'll be there Mon. the 20th.

Clear Skies,

Randy 


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:40 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Training (new and old)


  Morgan:

  Hi.  The next training will be on Saturday the 18th.  Learning the LCT
  will only take a few minutes.  I believe I have met you and your father
  several times at the observatory.  By Monday I will have the other dates
  lined out.  Randy Thompson and Mitch Glaze will also be helping with
  this task.  We will try to coordinate training dates for only new and
  refresher training in the future.  The three of use will share spots
  training.  Gee, it's nice to have good help.  I'll have to double their
  pay.  :-)

  If you have any other questions, please contact me at the address shown
  on the email or call 816-483-2928.


  Respectfully,

  Joe






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David,

Yes, I will be glad to help with the January 31 stary party for Jim Duncan.
Put me down.

Dave H.




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:49 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Powell nights


> I just updated the calendar on the yahoo site.
>
> I have nights reserved for January 17, 18, 25, and 31
>
> The 25 is boy scouts and the 31 is a birthday party for Jim Duncan.
>
> Any takers for any of these nights?
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

In planning any public hoopla and special Mars observing at Powell (media
etc.) we need to keep in mind that in late August when Mars is closest
(diameter about 25 arc sec), it will only rise about 30 degrees above the
horizon at midnight...so not good for "early evening" observing. This
improves through September. At end of September, Mars will still be over 20
arc sec. in diameter, but will cross the meridian (a bit more than 30
degrees high) earlier...about 9:30PM. So somewhat better for public
programs.

But (as always) there is the danger of planet-wide dust storms at this
perihelion.

Dave H.




----- Original Message -----
From: <eabrown@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Mars Parties


> One thing that the Club might consider doing this year is to
> designate August as "Mars Month".  We have some great slides in the
> library as well as the "Mars in 3-D" slides which are great fun.  I
> would suggest that every public nite during August be focused on Mars
> using one of those canned programs.  Get all the publicity we can
> get, i.e. have Gary Lezak (?) or somebody come down to Powell that
> month?  Might be a way to pick up some new members, too.
>
> We could generate some funds......, as there will probably be lots of
> news about it anyway, heck, a telescope maker is already drumming up
> business about it.
>
> I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is
> there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was
> for the 1988 watch.  Hey, if so we should inform the membership and
> get folks excited about it.
>
>
> Maybe even create our own "Mars" award like we did for Hale-Bopp.
>
> I also think we should plan on the August General Meeting to be
> focused on Mars, get some special speaker lined up.  This could be a
> great opportunity to have some fun and raise $$$, y'all!!!!
>
> Eliz
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Excellent points David. Joe has prepared the team duty nights and done some minor reshuffling of team members to even out the teams. He will probably be asking for program topics any second now. He should have the duty weeks soon as well.

Joe. Hope I didn't speak out of turn and put you under the gun but I think you have things pretty well in hand.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Hudgins 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Mars Parties


  In planning any public hoopla and special Mars observing at Powell (media
  etc.) we need to keep in mind that in late August when Mars is closest
  (diameter about 25 arc sec), it will only rise about 30 degrees above the
  horizon at midnight...so not good for "early evening" observing. This
  improves through September. At end of September, Mars will still be over 20
  arc sec. in diameter, but will cross the meridian (a bit more than 30
  degrees high) earlier...about 9:30PM. So somewhat better for public
  programs.

  But (as always) there is the danger of planet-wide dust storms at this
  perihelion.

  Dave H.




  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <eabrown@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:23 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Mars Parties


  > One thing that the Club might consider doing this year is to
  > designate August as "Mars Month".  We have some great slides in the
  > library as well as the "Mars in 3-D" slides which are great fun.  I
  > would suggest that every public nite during August be focused on Mars
  > using one of those canned programs.  Get all the publicity we can
  > get, i.e. have Gary Lezak (?) or somebody come down to Powell that
  > month?  Might be a way to pick up some new members, too.
  >
  > We could generate some funds......, as there will probably be lots of
  > news about it anyway, heck, a telescope maker is already drumming up
  > business about it.
  >
  > I think Kathy Machin told me that ALPO has a "Mars Watch" kit?  Is
  > there an award from the League for it this year?  I'm told there was
  > for the 1988 watch.  Hey, if so we should inform the membership and
  > get folks excited about it.
  >
  >
  > Maybe even create our own "Mars" award like we did for Hale-Bopp.
  >
  > I also think we should plan on the August General Meeting to be
  > focused on Mars, get some special speaker lined up.  This could be a
  > great opportunity to have some fun and raise $$$, y'all!!!!
  >
  > Eliz
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  >
  >


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A super night at Powell Saturday night. Bill and Tim had a good night in the AIC imaging galaxies. The cool temperature allowed them to get the camera down to -37 centigrade which made for some nice clean images.

I was able to use 290X on Saturn and Jupiter. A steady trickle of people came though the observatory from 7:00 until I left at 10:00. Multiple cloud bands were visible on Saturn! I'm used to seeing several on Jupiter but usually only one brown band on Saturn. M-42 was a little washed out and speaking of the moon....it was spectacular with steady seeing revealing many fine details and rills. Nice night! 

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Does anyone out there have the 2002 scheduled times of the Saturday
programs with the correct times in electronic format?  You know, the 300
fliers that are down at Powell.

Thanks,

Joe

You may want to check the times and make an adjustment on a couple of them. I seem to recall one or more might have been better with a 30 minute change in start time.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC 
  Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:01 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] TIMES


  Does anyone out there have the 2002 scheduled times of the Saturday
  programs with the correct times in electronic format?  You know, the 300
  fliers that are down at Powell.




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Anyone care to bite on this? I'm not too enthused after out last winter
weather experience with this school district. This is a different school and
different contact person. If someone wants to do it let me know. I will
probably be in Great Bend..yeee haaa.

David Young
dyoung8@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <Terri.Sievers@...>
Subject: Astronomical Society of KC


>
> I am part of a PTA committee planning Math and Science Night at Chapel
> Lakes Elementary School in the Blue Springs School District.  The school
is
> loc ated close to the intersection of I-470 and Chapel Lakes Road in Lee's
> Summit.
>
> This event is scheduled at 7 PM on Friday, January 24.   The night is
> designed as a family event where parents and children (grades K -5)  will
> explore different math and science activities.  We would like to include a
> "telescope/night skies" station.
>
> I know we discussed an honorarium.  Please let me know the amount.  Also,
> is there any special equipment your group needs?  We would love to be able
> to set up the telescopes in the back of the school building.  However, if
> the weather doesn't cooperate, we would like to have a Plan B so your
group
> can set up in a classroom and just talk to kids about telescopes and
> astronomy.
>
> Thanks so much!  I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Terri Sievers
> 816-524-6596
>
> Terri Sievers
> Language Arts/Reading
> Bernard C. Campbell Middle School
> 1201 NE Colbern Road
> Lee's Summit, MO 64086
> Voice Mail:  986-1499 Extension 8404
> Email:  terri.sievers@...
>
>
>

I would like to possibly dispel some myths or misconceptions for new and

seasoned members out there about:

Key Holders (KH)
Team Leaders (TL)
LCT
Team Members (TM)

in no particular order as they come to my mind (hush DY) as they relate
to each other.

You do not have to be a key holder to be on a team. So come on board!
Team leader is a key holder (usually multiple/always KH's on a team -
redundancy is not only a good thing to an engineer or pilot).
Key Holders do not have to be the only member of a team to lead a
program on team nights.
Team leaders are responsible for contacting the team prior to team
nights.
If a KH, TL, or TM can't make a team night, get a replacement.  It's
understandable that others things come up.  We all have other lives'.
Team leader (primary-duty night) and key holders are responsible for the
opening/closing and securing observatory unless handed over to another
TL/KH.
You do not have to be a key holder to open, operate and close the LCT.
You do sign the sing in sheet in the LCT when I get it down there.
You do not have to be a key holder or team member to learn how to
operate the 30"
You DO HAVE to be a Key Holder to open and close the observatory and
fence.
You do not have to be a Key Holder to learn and operate the AIC.  A Key
Holder is required to open and close the AIC.
You do not have to be a Key Holder to use observatory equipment on the
property with limited training other that a few specific research items.

You do not have to know a lot about astronomy to be on a team.  There
are lots of things a beginner or novice can be a big help in doing.
You do need to have fun and a good time.
Your are responsible for finding your own replacement for duty nights.

Thanks,

Joe

Joe and I have reviewed the insurance coverage on ASKC equipment. I intend to submit changes to Elliot Insurance no later than Wednesday. I will upload the revision pages for any who care to look at them. Please make comments and suggestions before Wednesday.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Anyone know where the six two way radios we are insuring are? I haven't ever seen them. If I don't hear from someone by Wednesday they will be removed from the insurance coverage.
David Young
dyoung8@...


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Having them in the club library would be great!   I'd like to listen to them
myself, so there might be others...   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:57 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] StarDate tapes


How much did you plan to ask for in the garage sale? I'd like to listen to
them before you get rid of them.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:50 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] StarDate tapes


  Hey all!

  You know what StarDate is, correct?  It's that daily 2 minute show on the
radio sponsored by the
  McDonald Observatory.

  I have a collection of "The Best of StarDate" audio tapes.  I have the
Best of 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94,
  95, & 96.  Do you think the ASKC library could use something like this?
If not, they will probably
  go on our next garage sale.

  -Scott

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The file area is cluttered with some cute but outdated files and pictures. How about cleaning it up by getting rid of some of those old pictures and files.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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I can delete whatever you think it's obsolete, or the individuals that
posted them can delete their own.   Let me know.

Gina

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:33 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] file area


  The file area is cluttered with some cute but outdated files and pictures.
How about cleaning it up by getting rid of some of those old pictures and
files.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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I deleted a bunch of my own. There are some files that seem outdated to me. Cartoons, photos more than 6 months old, stuff like that should probably be deleted to make room for more up to date stuff. I'll delete all of the insurance stuff in a week to allow room for the new schedules and team lists.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gina Fedon 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] file area


  I can delete whatever you think it's obsolete, or the individuals that
  posted them can delete their own.   Let me know.

  Gina

    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
    Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:33 AM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [ASKC] file area


    The file area is cluttered with some cute but outdated files and pictures.
  How about cleaning it up by getting rid of some of those old pictures and
  files.

    David Young
    dyoung8@...


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Any takers for this event?
David Young
dyoung8@...
----- Original Message -----
From: <Terri.Sievers@...>
To: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Astronomical Society of KC


>
> David,
>
> Thanks for your response.  We are designing the Math and Science event at
> Chapel Lakes Elementary as a family evening.  Generally, we do have a
> pretty high turn out of parents and students.  We are also having a puppet
> show and live snakes which should help draw people out.  Reservation forms
> are due tomorrow, so I should be able to give you a specific number of
> participants by then.  We are willing to pay your group a flat fee.
>
> Students and their parents will rotate to six stations and spend about 15
> minutes at each one.  We were hoping that your group would be one of these
> stations.  Hopefully, this format will help with crowd control.  The
> evening will be over at 9:00 PM.
>
> Thanks so much for considering being part of this event.  If you (or
anyone
> else from your organization) have any questions you may call me at
> 816-478-4048.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Terri Sievers
>
> Terri Sievers
> Language Arts/Reading
> Bernard C. Campbell Middle School
> 1201 NE Colbern Road
> Lee's Summit, MO 64086
> Voice Mail:  986-1499 Extension 8404
> Email:  terri.sievers@...
>
>

It's in the file area of yahoo groups.  Or... Scott Kranz and David YOung
have it.   My home computer is now toast, I hear....

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:01 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] TIMES


Does anyone out there have the 2002 scheduled times of the Saturday
programs with the correct times in electronic format?  You know, the 300
fliers that are down at Powell.

Thanks,

Joe



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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Anyone know where the six two way radios we are insuring are? I
haven't ever seen them. If I don't hear from someone by Wednesday they
will be removed from the insurance coverage.

Check with Nick or Bob Haler. They were the ones that got them, and
was used at Powell I believe during the Shoemaker/Levy thing, since it
allowed people on duty to help on crowd control. I haven't seen them
for years, so maybe either Bob or Nick knows what happened to them. If
I also remember, Bob got those as a donation, when he worked at Maxon
(sp?). 

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@e...> wrote:
> Having them in the club library would be great!   I'd like to listen
to them
> myself, so there might be others...   Jackie

Maybe if I had possession of them for a while, I could digitize them
onto CD's. Since they are about 2 minutes in length, about 30 prgs
could fit per CD. This would reduce the amount of space they would
take up.

Rob

"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>Any takers for this event?


>> Terri Sievers
>> Language Arts/Reading
>> Bernard C. Campbell Middle School
>> 1201 NE Colbern Road
>> Lee's Summit, MO 64086
>> Voice Mail:  986-1499 Extension 8404
>> Email:  terri.sievers@...

I was pleased with the enthusiasm of the few who did show for the freeze fest next door, and this seems a perfect use for ASKC's loaner scope.  Sign me up, I'll take it.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

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David, I didn't see a date for this event.  If they are willing to pay up
front and the time works out I would be interested.  Sharon


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Fw: Astronomical Society of KC


> Any takers for this event?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Terri.Sievers@...>
> To: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Astronomical Society of KC
>
>
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Thanks for your response.  We are designing the Math and Science event
at
> > Chapel Lakes Elementary as a family evening.  Generally, we do have a
> > pretty high turn out of parents and students.  We are also having a
puppet
> > show and live snakes which should help draw people out.  Reservation
forms
> > are due tomorrow, so I should be able to give you a specific number of
> > participants by then.  We are willing to pay your group a flat fee.
> >
> > Students and their parents will rotate to six stations and spend about
15
> > minutes at each one.  We were hoping that your group would be one of
these
> > stations.  Hopefully, this format will help with crowd control.  The
> > evening will be over at 9:00 PM.
> >
> > Thanks so much for considering being part of this event.  If you (or
> anyone
> > else from your organization) have any questions you may call me at
> > 816-478-4048.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Terri Sievers
> >
> > Terri Sievers
> > Language Arts/Reading
> > Bernard C. Campbell Middle School
> > 1201 NE Colbern Road
> > Lee's Summit, MO 64086
> > Voice Mail:  986-1499 Extension 8404
> > Email:  terri.sievers@...
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

The time and date is 7:00 PM  January 24.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: SHARON GOODE 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Fw: Astronomical Society of KC


  David, I didn't see a date for this event.  If they are willing to pay up
  front and the time works out I would be interested.  Sharon


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:12 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Fw: Astronomical Society of KC


  > Any takers for this event?
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: <Terri.Sievers@...>
  > To: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
  > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:20 AM
  > Subject: Re: Astronomical Society of KC
  >
  >
  > >
  > > David,
  > >
  > > Thanks for your response.  We are designing the Math and Science event
  at
  > > Chapel Lakes Elementary as a family evening.  Generally, we do have a
  > > pretty high turn out of parents and students.  We are also having a
  puppet
  > > show and live snakes which should help draw people out.  Reservation
  forms
  > > are due tomorrow, so I should be able to give you a specific number of
  > > participants by then.  We are willing to pay your group a flat fee.
  > >
  > > Students and their parents will rotate to six stations and spend about
  15
  > > minutes at each one.  We were hoping that your group would be one of
  these
  > > stations.  Hopefully, this format will help with crowd control.  The
  > > evening will be over at 9:00 PM.
  > >
  > > Thanks so much for considering being part of this event.  If you (or
  > anyone
  > > else from your organization) have any questions you may call me at
  > > 816-478-4048.
  > >
  > > Sincerely,
  > >
  > > Terri Sievers
  > >
  > > Terri Sievers
  > > Language Arts/Reading
  > > Bernard C. Campbell Middle School
  > > 1201 NE Colbern Road
  > > Lee's Summit, MO 64086
  > > Voice Mail:  986-1499 Extension 8404
  > > Email:  terri.sievers@...
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.




Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we stay
out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
planning on the dome ring and LCT.

Joe

Ireceived the following announcement today, and want to pass it along for 
those that might be interested.

Ed Flaspoeehler, AAAA

Subj:   Desert Sunset Star Party - May 1-4, 2003, Benson, AZ    
Date:   1/13/03 11:19:11 PM Central Standard Time   
From:   <A HREF="mailto:chartmarker@...">chartmarker@...</A> 
To: <A HREF="mailto:chartmarker@...">chartmarker@...</A> 
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    


We again would like to ask you, the local astronomy club officers, to
post the following message in your Newsletters, and other postings for
your club members.  Almost everything is in place for the DSSP now and
we want our fellow astronomers to know they can register. 

We also ask that you print out the printable flyer at
http://chartmarker.tripod.com/sunset.htm to post for members who do not
have web access.  Perhaps you could also print out the online
registration forms to distribute to members without web access.  

We thank you for your assistance in publicizing this new star party and
we hope you will be able to join us.

______

Desert Sunset Star Party - May 1-4, 2003, Benson, AZ

Registration is now online for the Desert Sunset Star Party. Please
check our website (http://chartmarker.tripod.com/sunset.htm) for details
about this new star party and to get your registration forms (early
registration ends March 15).  It will be held at the Kartchner Caverns
State Park. We have speakers who will talk on a variety of subjects such
as identifying stars, supernovae, Mars and the weather in the Southwest.
We will have vendors present and door prizes, and a contest for the best
Simple Astronomy Tool (SAT).  We also have lots to do during the day and
have scheduled tours to Mt. Hopkins (Whipple Observatory), BioSphere 2,
and the Univ of AZ Mirror Lab.  Catered meals will also be available
(please fill out sign-up form for meals).  If you do not have web
access, please contact a club member to get the forms.  We hope you will
be able to join us.

Chart Markers and More
Pat and Arleen Heimann
http://chartmarker.tripod.com


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
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stripe1966 <skranz@...>
 

Hey, Joe.     I'd love to come and get some training.   But..... my home
computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my files
-- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files were
cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the League work
on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then, if you
heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV news)
-- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the next week
or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped flames.   What
a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working on
the weekend, too....
 
Jackie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:06 PM
To: ASKC; Bill VanKirk, W0PT; Dave Brockway; Paul Thompson
Subject: [ASKC] Training





I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.




Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we stay
out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
planning on the dome ring and LCT.

Joe






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In a message dated 1/14/03 7:29:00 AM Central Standard Time, 
jbeucher@... writes:


> my home
> computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my files
> -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files were
> cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the League 
> work
> on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then, if you
> heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV 
> news)
> -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the next 
> week
> or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped flames.   
> What
> a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
> tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working on
> the weekend, too....

Wow. What a list. I had no idea this was going on.

The computer that is down. Is that the eMachine we got, or your old machine?

And your sister's house on fire. How did that happen. I hope everyone is OK.

Ed


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I received the following today from the Astronomical League, and wanted to 
pass it along.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

Subj:   National Dark Sky Week Announced    
Date:   1/14/03 4:19:42 AM Central Standard Time    
From:   <A HREF="mailto:RLGent1">RLGent1</A>@... 


    


To All Astronomical League Member Society Presidents,
    
       Thank you very much for your support of the League and the science of 
astronomy.  We encourage you to participate in the USA's National Dark Sky 
Week, and please feel free to distribute the following press release to your 
local media representatives.  

Best wishes for NDSW and the new year!

Robert L. Gent
President, Astronomical League and
Chair, Sections WG, International Dark-Sky Association 

cc:  250+ Astronomical League Society ALCors,
  Executive Committee and Council, and 
       All IDA Sections, affiliated organizations, and Board of Directors

--------------------------------------------------------------------
NDSW PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- January 14, 2003

Contact:   Jennifer Barlow
Midlothian, Virginia, USA    
Email: astronomer107@...

******************************************************************************

********

HIGH SCHOOL AMATEUR ASTRONOMER CAMPAIGNS AGAINST LIGHT POLLUTION

    Jennifer Barlow, a high school student in Midlothian, Virginia, USA, 
began National Dark Sky Week (NDSW).  NDSW for 2003 is set to occur from 
April 1 to 8, 10 pm to 12 am (Eastern and Mountain Time Zones) and 9 pm to 11 
pm (Central and Pacific Time Zones.) The purpose of the event is to reduce 
and raise awareness about light pollution.

    Light pollution is the lighting of the night sky that intervenes the 
light of the stars and astronomical observers. It is caused by light sources 
that emit excess light into the atmosphere and screen out astronomical 
features in the sky. Light pollution is a growing problem as more and more 
cities are being built and expanded while more lights are being used to light 
them. Robert Gent, President of the 20,000-member Astronomical League 
explains the effects of light pollution, "The beauty of our night skies has 
been inspirational to mankind for eons, and it is an important part of our 
heritage. The time has come to recognize the ill effects of light pollution.  
Better quality lighting can reduce glare, save energy, and protect the 
nighttime environment."

    Many people have expressed their enthusiasm for National Dark Sky Week. 
Says 2002 National Young Astronomer Award Winner, Albert Lin, "Having a 
National Dark Sky Week would certainly please fellow dedicated astronomers as 
well as give the general public a chance to experience the night sky in all 
its glory, the way it should be. This would be a great opportunity to get 
people interested and involved in observing the night sky. From my 
experience, the main reason why more people aren't out under the stars is 
because they can barely see anything from their location anyway. A NDSW 
would, in a sense, benefit everyone." National Dark Sky Week will allow many 
to see the universe and people will be able to forget about their "earthly" 
distractions for two hours when they realize the scale of the vast universe. 

       "It is a great tragedy that each and every US citizen cannot walk out 
of their front door and be able to see the wonder of the Milky Way arcing 
across the night sky. This week long event is a great way to enjoy the night 
sky and bring the focus of public attention on this growing issue. Light 
should go where we want and need it, not up into the night sky where it 
serves no purpose except destroying one of our most awe-inspiring natural 
wonders," says Dr. Kevin Marvel, Deputy Executive Officer of the American 
Astronomical Society, a cosponsor of National Dark Sky Week.

    Jennifer Barlow stresses the importance of safety in this event. "Please 
do not extinguish important lighting that is needed for safety, i.e., 
streetlights, busy parking lot lights, etc. Turn off outdoor house lights and 
bright indoor lights. When observing in a dark area, carry a red-tinted 
flashlight and stay with a large group of people," says Barlow.

    The Astronomical League, The International Dark-Sky Association, The 
American Astronomical Society, The Richmond Astronomical Society, The Armagh 
Planetarium, support National Dark Sky Week, among many others. In order for 
NDSW to be successful, the participation of everyone is crucial. National 
Dark Sky Week is an opportunity for everyone to get involved in astronomy. 
Jennifer Barlow says, "The sky has been forgotten by many -- this is a good 
opportunity to remind us that Earth is not alone in the universe."

   For additional information, visit: 
http://www.nationaldarkskyweek.htmlplanet.com  
Please also visit this site: http://www.darksky.org/newsroom/pres-rel.html 
for a link to a similar press release to see the endorsement and images made 
by the International Dark-Sky Association and American Astronomical Society; 
this briefing took place on January 8 at 2 pm PST. 

     *********  END ***********



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Hi, ed.
 
And it's going crazy here!
 
The E-Machine is OK.   My home machine is what blitzed.  It was originally
bought in 91-92.   I've added new modems, more memory (but the kind I need
is scarce now) and a new hard drive.   I had 2 hard drives.  One was
supposed to master, one slave.  but they screwed that up when they installed
them.   old video and sound cards.   So.  I have to get a new one.  
 
The house was $350,000 and one that my sister had done a LOT of work on.  An
incredible amount of work.   and full of antiques.  So sad.   They don't
know what started it, but we suspect a spark from a cigarette... maybe....
It's so dry here.  
 
I'm taking off tomorrow to go help them salvage any items we can find in
there.   The first floor collapsed into the basement in the center of the
house.  Firemen will be there to help us so we won't hurt ourselves.
 
J

-----Original Message-----
From: eflaspo@... [mailto:eflaspo@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:09 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Training


In a message dated 1/14/03 7:29:00 AM Central Standard Time, 
jbeucher@... writes:


> my home
> computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my
files
> -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files
were
> cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the League 
> work
> on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then, if
you
> heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV 
> news)
> -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the next 
> week
> or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped flames.   
> What
> a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
> tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working on
> the weekend, too....

Wow. What a list. I had no idea this was going on.

The computer that is down. Is that the eMachine we got, or your old machine?

And your sister's house on fire. How did that happen. I hope everyone is OK.

Ed


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Is this for keyholder training if not when can we get trained?
Dr.Eric Flescher
**

Message: 14
  Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:05:38 -0600
  From: Joe Wright <jswright@...>
Subject: Training




I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.




Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we stay
out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
planning on the dome ring and LCT.

Joe

This is key holder training.

10:00 am  Saturday.

KCStarguy@... wrote:

>  Is this for keyholder training if not when can we get trained?
> Dr.Eric Flescher
> **
>
> Message: 14
>   Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:05:38 -0600
>   From: Joe Wright <jswright@...>
> Subject: Training
>
>
>
>
> I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.
>
>
>
>
> Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
> termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we
> stay
> out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
> planning on the dome ring and LCT.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Jackie,
Sorry to hear about your sister's misfortune.  I'm glad she made it out
though.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 07:45
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Training


> Hey, Joe.     I'd love to come and get some training.   But..... my home
> computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my
files
> -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files
were
> cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the League
work
> on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then, if
you
> heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV
news)
> -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the next
week
> or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped flames.
What
> a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
> tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working on
> the weekend, too....
>
> Jackie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:06 PM
> To: ASKC; Bill VanKirk, W0PT; Dave Brockway; Paul Thompson
> Subject: [ASKC] Training
>
>
>
>
>
> I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.
>
>
>
>
> Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
> termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we stay
> out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
> planning on the dome ring and LCT.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>

Jackie:

Sorry to hear about you sister.  I did hear it on the news.  Rita
delivers mail out of the Parkville PO.  There will more training dates.
We are dividing the dates among the three of us.  I will post the dates
and times tomorrow and they will be in the CM.  So far, about 5 new
people have contacted me about training. Cool!  Somebody should write
out the history that we talk about in the club.  You know, the stuff
some would want to forget.  I like being around the folks that have been
there for a while (gee, could I have put it nicer) and hear their
stories.

Joe

"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:

>  Hey, Joe.     I'd love to come and get some training.   But..... my
> home
> computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my
> files
> -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files
> were
> cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the
> League work
> on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then,
> if you
> heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV
> news)
> -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the
> next week
> or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped
> flames.   What
> a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
> tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working
> on
> the weekend, too....
>
> Jackie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:06 PM
> To: ASKC; Bill VanKirk, W0PT; Dave Brockway; Paul Thompson
> Subject: [ASKC] Training
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> I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.
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> Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
> termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we
> stay
> out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
> planning on the dome ring and LCT.
>
> Joe
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I have contacted Turner White, the President of Union Station/Science 
City.  I stated that ASKC would like to set up outside in the parking 
lot and talk about Astronomy Day and perhaps look at the sun.  He 
stated that Union Station would be happy to host us in May for the 
day.  He offered to also let us use the planetarium to give talks.  
We did not actually talk, but only traded voice mails.   He is 
interested in hearing out thoughts further.  

What do we want to do????  Use the planetarium?  Just set up 
outside?    

Ok, I haven't had any comments about the proposed changes to the insurance. Either no one cares, no one has looked at the files, or no one has any suggested changes.

Has anyone looked at the files.

David Young
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Here is another announcement for all you occultation fans. Hope it is clear 
where you are. It is cloudy here in Texas.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

Subj:   USA asteroid occ'ns TONIGHT, Siwa Jan.16/17 Iberia, others in Jan.  
Date:   1/15/03 11:37:15 AM Central Standard Time   
From:   <A HREF="mailto:dunham@...">dunham@...</A>    


  This evening, there will be an occultation of a 10th-mag. star
by the asteroid 371 Bohemia visible from southern Idaho across the
northern USA to southern Massachusetts (expected northern limit over
Boston), while Thurs. morning (Jan. 16) an occultation of a fainter
star by the Trojan asteroid 1173 Anchises will be visible across the
southern USA, from northern Calif. to Georgia.  This and updated
path information several other occultations during the rest of
January are summarized below.

      Updated information about asteroidal occultations visible from
North America, Europe, and some other areas are summarized according to
calculations by Steve Preston and Jan Manek.  Updated path maps, finder
charts, and other detailed information about these events can be found
at the Web sites at the end of this message; Steve Preston's Web site
also has path updates for South America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan,
and often other areas, while Jan Manek's site covers Europe (but some
European events are instead on Preston's site, especially trans-
Atlantic events); you should consult them since I mainly list the better
foreign and North American events here. Under "Approx. location", places
are spelled out when they can be, but usually it is necessary to use the
standard two-letter postal abbreviations for the States of the USA and
provinces of Canada (for example, AB = Alberta, NB = New Brunswick, NE =
Nebraska) or the two-letter country abbreviations used in Web and e-mail
addresses (FR = France, DE = Germany, NZ = New Zealand, etc.).
"cen." or "c" means central, and small letters, with or without ".",
indicate the part of the State, Province, or country, such as sCA =
southern California, nON = northern Ontario, sTX = southern Texas, etc.
Not all places crossed by a path are listed, and with errors, adjacent
States or countries might have an occultation.  Unless otherwise
specified in the notes, the magnitude drop in case of an occultation is
1.0 or more. Those especially in the Americas are reminded that the
dates and times below are U.T., and that local dates may be a day
earlier.  NOTE that the times are U.T.; especially in the Americas,
events often occur the evening of the PREVIOUSLY-LISTED date, local time.

2003             Asteroid        S   t   a   r
Date  U.T.        Diam.,    R.A.(2000)Dec.
Jan.h  m   m    #  Name     km mag.  h   m    o  / Approx. location
16  1:32-:36  371 Bohemia   54 10.5  1 51.5 +18 21 ID,SD,sWI,sON,cNY,MA
16  8:43-:46 1173 Anchises 126 11.7  4 29.7 +25 28 GA,wTN,KS,CO,nUT,nCA
17  0:08-:15  140 Siwa     114 10.9 10 01.3 +14 31 SA,nEG,MT,ES(Mad),nPT
17  3:43-:51  653 Berenike  39  5.4  9 15.2 +14 56 BR,nPE,EQ,Galapagos?
17  4:29-:40  177 Irma      73 12.2  7 58.7 +22 24 BG,HU,AT,DE,NL,nUK,AK
17  7:44-:47  704Interamnia316 11.2  7 56.9 +12 46 Bahamas,s.Fla.,n.MX
17  8:39-:49 2068 Dangreen  33  9.5  4 39.3 +19 07 wMX,AZ,UT,eID,wAB,SK
18  0:00-:04  234 Barbara   45  9.7  9 00.0 +10 16 TR,RO,HU,CZ,DE,NL,nUK
19 23:44-:45  371 Bohemia   54 11.2  1 54.4 +18 23 sAL,GA,SC(Charlston)
21 18:27-:32  714 Ulula     41 10.9  6 33.4 +04 14 nwRU,sFI,sSE,sNO,nUK?
22  2:20-:34   95 Arethusa 136 11.6  7 34.0 +05 49 nEG,sVA,nTN,OK,NM,sCA
22 17:26-:43  714 Ulula     41 11.4  6 32.7 +04 15 nJP,CN,sRU,UA,sDE,nFR
24  5:48-:54  168 Sibylla  148 12.2  9 16.6 +09 29 PR,Cuba,s.Texas,n.Mex
24  6:54-:55  258 Tyche     64 11.3  7 01.2 +00 50 Newfoundland,n.Quebec
24 22:26-:28  511 Davida   326 10.4  6 28.2 +22 49 Newfoundland,Quebec
25  4:07-:24  142 Polana    55 11.9  9 36.7 +12 39 EG,ES,nPT,SK,AB-Ed,BC
26  0:38-:41  511 Davida   326 11.6  6 27.6 +22 56 Fla.,sLA,cen.Texas
29  1:40-:64  203 Pompeja  116 11.8  6 09.2 +27 37 UA,PL,DK,MB,MT,ID,nCA
30 11:18-:31 1637 Swings    45  9.5  8 13.0 +40 21 NJ,ePA,wNY,ON,cen.RU

Jan. 16, Bohemia:  The star should be easy to find, only 8' northwest of
a 7th-mag. star and about 1 deg. south of gamma Arietis (Mesartim),
which is at the top of the small 2-deg. chart superimposed on the map on
Preston's Web site (there is no Goffin chart for the event).  I have too
much work to take the time off to try to observe this event myself, but
hope that others near the path can try it.

Jan. 16:  Anchises is a Trojan asteroid.

Jan. 17:  Unfortunately, the Rosetta launch has been postponed, so
the spacecraft will not visit Siwa as planned.  But Jean Lecacheux
writes:
Eric Frappa has posted detailed maps at the web
address http://www.meteores.net/occult/ , showing
Manek's centerline, n. and s. limits, plus main roads,
mountains and towns, to aid spanish and portuguese
observers to choose a good site.
Siwa is an interessant big asteroid, probably very
primitive, with a low albedo and a slow rotation
(18.50 h period).
Now we have to discover its exact shape without help
of a space vehicle !

Jan. 17, Berenike:  The star is pi 2 Cancri =SAO 98456 = FK6 2733.
Preston's Web site has a detailed map of the path in eastern Brazil,
between Rio de Janeiro and Belo Horizonte.

Jan. 17, Interamnia:  The magnitude drop is only 0.3.

Jan. 17, Dangreen:  The star is SAO 94055.

Jan. 22, Arethusa:  This is the next event for which an expedition from
Maryland is planned.

Jan. 24, Davida:  The magnitude drop is 0.6.

Jan. 26:  The magnitude drop is only 0.2.

Jan. 30:  The star is SAO 42228, spectral type K0.

    The 43-km asteroid 2239 Paracelsus is predicted to occult 6.8-mag.
SAO 59230 = HIP 31340 on Feb. 1 from 12:15 to 12:37 UT, nominally along a
path crossing s.w. NM, AZ, NV, s.w. OR, Alaska & Kamchatka Peninulas,
Mongolia, w. China, and n.e. India (in strong dusk twilight).

    On Feb. 8, 275 Sapientia will occult 10.6-mag. TAC +17 deg. 3131
along a path nominally from Virginia to Chicago to Minnesota to s.w.
Canada to s. Alaska.  David Werner notes that the star seems to be
superimposed on the galaxy NGC 2711, but actually the star is real,
about 1' from the galaxy, according to Roger Venable and others who
have checked.  The star is at J2000 RA 8h 57m 26.0s, Dec +17 deg. 18'
03", less than a degree from Jupiter and closer to X Cancri.

For more about these events, see Steve Preston's Web site at
http://www.asteroidoccultation.com/
for updated path maps and other details, and see the asteroidal
occultation page of the main IOTA site at
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm
for annotated versions of E. Goffin's good finder charts
for North American events and links to sites covering
other areas.  For Europe, see also Ludek Vasta and Jan Manek's site
at http://sorry.vse.cz/~ludek/mp .

I just list the events in the table above; see the Web sites for
the updated maps to see the closest approach time for your
location, and more accurate coordinates of the star and its
designation.  You must display this message with a fixed-space
font such as Courier for the columns of the table to line up.
The U.T. time range is given, with only the minutes of the
hour given for the end time (subtract 60 and add 1 to the hour
for end minutes greater than 59).  Keep in mind the
path uncertainties; States and countries adjacent to those
mentioned in some cases might have an occultation instead.

Good luck with YOUR observations of asteroidal occultations during
2003!

David Dunham, 2003 January 15, 16h UT



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I have a paying customer for Friday night. Anyone interested in this gig. No program, just observing for a couple.
David Young
dyoung8@...


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Snow, clouds!  Who got the new scope?  I know.

Hey folks:

The teams list is taking shape.  I would like to acknowledge Dave
Brockway as Team 6 leader.  I have known Dave for some time and he is a
very nice guy.  Other than a few changes, the teams remained some what
the same.  I am putting together a excel file that will have a tab for
each:

Team list
Team schedule
Duty schedule and partner

If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get it to you in paper
or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the email group site.

We currently have 5 new people schedule for Saturday:

Bill VanKirk
Dave Brockway
Nate Thames (pronounced Tims, thanks to Benny Hill that I knew that)
Paul Thompson
Paul Claessen

Mitch is working on a emailer as a reminder.

Joe

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wright <jswright@k...> wrote:
> If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get it to you in paper
> or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the email group site.

There is a FREE MSExcel Reader than you can download and use to read
ANY Excel file. 
It is buried on the Microsoft site, but I do have it on my website
located at the bottom of the page:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/rlo/rays/database.htm

I put it there for people wanting to use the lunar ray database and
didn't have Excel.


Rob Robinson

fyi
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
<ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website 
<http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/satoriastronomy.htm> 
**

SKY AT A GLANCE

On the mornings of January 21st and 22nd, Mars is quite close to the
moderately bright star Beta Scorpii, a beautiful double star as seen in a
telescope. To read more about what's happening in the night sky this week,
visit "This Week's Sky at a Glance" at:

> http://SkyandTelescope.com/observing/ataglance/

Joe, I would suggest a plain txt version as well as a print wersion to be
sent to all team members.

Gil
ps . plan to be down Sat. for training.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Teams


> Snow, clouds!  Who got the new scope?  I know.
>

Joe.   Please don't upload just to the email group files area.   Many of us
just can't access those files.  Please send directly to your team leaders as
an attachment to an email.   That is the only  way I will ever see it.
Also... on a temporary basis only, please use only this email address here
at work.  I'm "down" at home.  J.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:45 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] Teams


Snow, clouds!  Who got the new scope?  I know.

Hey folks:

The teams list is taking shape.  I would like to acknowledge Dave
Brockway as Team 6 leader.  I have known Dave for some time and he is a
very nice guy.  Other than a few changes, the teams remained some what
the same.  I am putting together a excel file that will have a tab for
each:

Team list
Team schedule
Duty schedule and partner

If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get it to you in paper
or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the email group site.

We currently have 5 new people schedule for Saturday:

Bill VanKirk
Dave Brockway
Nate Thames (pronounced Tims, thanks to Benny Hill that I knew that)
Paul Thompson
Paul Claessen

Mitch is working on a emailer as a reminder.

Joe




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ASKC member-
Per the Observatory Director and President, a refresher training 
course has been requested for all keyholders and anyone else wishing 
to be trained on telescopic equipment at Powell.  If this applies to 
you, be advised that the locks at Powell will be changed April 19, 
2003.  You MUST complete a training session by then in order to 
receive a new key.  Any one that is not a keyholder wishing to be 
granted keyholder status must also attend a training session.  
(Keyholder status will not be granted simply by completing a training 
session- it also requires ASKC Board approval.)  Anyone who wants 
telescopic equipment training should also attend a training session.  
The following dates and times at Powell Observatory are available for 
training:

Saturday  January   18,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Saturday  February   8,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Sunday    February  16,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
Saturday  March     22,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Sunday    March     23,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
Saturday  April     19,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.

Contact Joe Wright at   816-483-2928   or by e-mail at   
jswright@...   to sign up for a particular training session.  
Please RSVP so that we are not overbooked on any one date.

Training dates and/or times are subject to change, but every effort 
will be made to adhere to this schedule.


This email is being sent to all members of the ASKC regarding 
training at Powell.  If this message has reached you by mistake, or 
you have completed training in 2003, please disregard.

-2003 Powell Training Staff

Bring this schedule to the General Meeting and post it on the chalk board.  David will want to point
it out to members at the meeting also.

"glaze_m " wrote:
> 
> ASKC member-
> Per the Observatory Director and President, a refresher training
> course has been requested for all keyholders and anyone else wishing
> to be trained on telescopic equipment at Powell.  If this applies to
> you, be advised that the locks at Powell will be changed April 19,
> 2003.  You MUST complete a training session by then in order to
> receive a new key.  Any one that is not a keyholder wishing to be
> granted keyholder status must also attend a training session.
> (Keyholder status will not be granted simply by completing a training
> session- it also requires ASKC Board approval.)  Anyone who wants
> telescopic equipment training should also attend a training session.
> The following dates and times at Powell Observatory are available for
> training:
> 
> Saturday  January   18,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
> Saturday  February   8,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
> Sunday    February  16,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
> Saturday  March     22,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
> Sunday    March     23,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
> Saturday  April     19,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
> 
> Contact Joe Wright at   816-483-2928   or by e-mail at
> jswright@...   to sign up for a particular training session.
> Please RSVP so that we are not overbooked on any one date.
> 
> Training dates and/or times are subject to change, but every effort
> will be made to adhere to this schedule.
> 
> This email is being sent to all members of the ASKC regarding
> training at Powell.  If this message has reached you by mistake, or
> you have completed training in 2003, please disregard.
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I am picking up my new computer this evening.   They are installing my old
20-gig hard drive on it (in addition to the 60 gig new one).   The old drive
has all "My Documents" on it, as well as all the "Outlook" files.   I will
install MS Office (and Outlook) on the new 60 gig drive.
 
Question:  If I transfer the saved OUtlook files over to the new drive
BEFORE I load Office, will the installation process "see" the old files and
"pick up" all my saved mail, both "sent" and NEW mail that I never read????
How about my Outlook Address Book?
 
I have LOTS of important League messages in there that I can't lose.  
 
Can anyone tell me??
 
Jackie
 


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Your best bet is to Export ("File, Import / Export...") the data to a floppy
or CD ROM to be sure.  Technically, it should "see" your files and not
bother them, but then, this is MicroSoft, the same company who makes
software called "Works".... so you join them, MicroSoft Works, and get an
oxymoron....


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:jbeucher@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:02 PM
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
  Subject: [ASKC] MS OUtlook question...


  I am picking up my new computer this evening.   They are installing my old
  20-gig hard drive on it (in addition to the 60 gig new one).   The old
drive
  has all "My Documents" on it, as well as all the "Outlook" files.   I will
  install MS Office (and Outlook) on the new 60 gig drive.

  Question:  If I transfer the saved OUtlook files over to the new drive
  BEFORE I load Office, will the installation process "see" the old files
and
  "pick up" all my saved mail, both "sent" and NEW mail that I never
read????
  How about my Outlook Address Book?

  I have LOTS of important League messages in there that I can't lose.

  Can anyone tell me??

  Jackie



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I want MS Office (and Outlook) as it loads to SEE those files, and "import"
them in as it loads the program.   If it doesnt, then.... I will have to
"import" them into Outlook, and I dont ' have a clue as to how to do that.
I will have a new CD burner built in so will have my document files copied
onto a disc.   This will be a new deal for me!   I just can't lose those
Outlook files.   I need them in there.   As soon as I handle the emails
already downloaded in there (over 200 on Saturday) then I am going to use
Eudora.  
 
If anyone has a good tip, call me at home 913-469-0135, as I may start this
process this evening!
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] MS OUtlook question...


Your best bet is to Export ("File, Import / Export...") the data to a floppy
or CD ROM to be sure.  Technically, it should "see" your files and not
bother them, but then, this is MicroSoft, the same company who makes
software called "Works".... so you join them, MicroSoft Works, and get an
oxymoron....


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:jbeucher@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:02 PM
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
  Subject: [ASKC] MS OUtlook question...


  I am picking up my new computer this evening.   They are installing my old
  20-gig hard drive on it (in addition to the 60 gig new one).   The old
drive
  has all "My Documents" on it, as well as all the "Outlook" files.   I will
  install MS Office (and Outlook) on the new 60 gig drive.

  Question:  If I transfer the saved OUtlook files over to the new drive
  BEFORE I load Office, will the installation process "see" the old files
and
  "pick up" all my saved mail, both "sent" and NEW mail that I never
read????
  How about my Outlook Address Book?

  I have LOTS of important League messages in there that I can't lose.

  Can anyone tell me??

  Jackie



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I will be unable to attend this Saturday Morning's session because of 
a college course which lasts from 1:00 PM to about 3:00 PM, I live in 
Overland Park so it takes about 30-40 minutes to drive down to 
Powell. Now I was wondering (if the extended Auto course doesn't take 
place that day which would extend the time to 6PM) if anyone would be 
around later in the day after 3PM to train? Or would I have to to 
come Feburary instead?


Thanks, 
Morgan

why can't you just copy the list from excel and post into email or word 
processing program? come on
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
In a message dated 1/16/03 9:08:04 AM, ASKC@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< @...>
Subject: Re: Teams

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wright <jswright@k...> wrote:
> If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get it to you in paper
> or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the email group site.

There is a FREE MSExcel Reader than you can download and use to read
ANY Excel file. 
It is buried on the Microsoft site, but I do have it on my website
located at the bottom of the page:

http://www.lunar-occultations.com/rlo/rays/database.htm

I put it there for people wanting to use the lunar ray database and
didn't have Excel.


Rob Robinson

 >>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KCStarguy@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:03 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] excel shmexel


  why can't you just copy the list from excel and post into email or word 
  processing program? come on
  Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)


  Feel free to do so at your convenience. Paper copies will also be available at meetings for those who can't figure out how to read or access the files.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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Joe:    I plan to be at the refresher training course
for keyholders on January 18th at 10.00 p.m. Keep up
the fine job you have been doing as Observatory
Director (was even able to find a small allen wrench
in the tool box to repair the door of the
AIC)...............     Bill
--- Joe Wright <jswright@...> wrote:
> Snow, clouds!  Who got the new scope?  I know.
> 
> Hey folks:
> 
> The teams list is taking shape.  I would like to
> acknowledge Dave
> Brockway as Team 6 leader.  I have known Dave for
> some time and he is a
> very nice guy.  Other than a few changes, the teams
> remained some what
> the same.  I am putting together a excel file that
> will have a tab for
> each:
> 
> Team list
> Team schedule
> Duty schedule and partner
> 
> If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get
> it to you in paper
> or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the
> email group site.
> 
> We currently have 5 new people schedule for
> Saturday:
> 
> Bill VanKirk
> Dave Brockway
> Nate Thames (pronounced Tims, thanks to Benny Hill
> that I knew that)
> Paul Thompson
> Paul Claessen
> 
> Mitch is working on a emailer as a reminder.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 


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Bill:

Thanks.  A lot of thanks goes to my two assistants.  Randy and Mitch.

Joe

William Boyle wrote:

>  Joe:    I plan to be at the refresher training course
> for keyholders on January 18th at 10.00 p.m. Keep up
> the fine job you have been doing as Observatory
> Director (was even able to find a small allen wrench
> in the tool box to repair the door of the
> AIC)...............     Bill
> --- Joe Wright <jswright@...> wrote:
> > Snow, clouds!  Who got the new scope?  I know.
> >
> > Hey folks:
> >
> > The teams list is taking shape.  I would like to
> > acknowledge Dave
> > Brockway as Team 6 leader.  I have known Dave for
> > some time and he is a
> > very nice guy.  Other than a few changes, the teams
> > remained some what
> > the same.  I am putting together a excel file that
> > will have a tab for
> > each:
> >
> > Team list
> > Team schedule
> > Duty schedule and partner
> >
> > If you do not have excel, let me know and I will get
> > it to you in paper
> > or another format.  I will attempt to upload to the
> > email group site.
> >
> > We currently have 5 new people schedule for
> > Saturday:
> >
> > Bill VanKirk
> > Dave Brockway
> > Nate Thames (pronounced Tims, thanks to Benny Hill
> > that I knew that)
> > Paul Thompson
> > Paul Claessen
> >
> > Mitch is working on a emailer as a reminder.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
>
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Morgan:

I can't promise you that anyone with be there that late that can train
you.  Your best bet is to call the observatory and check for one of us.

Joe


I will be unable to attend this Saturday Morning's session because of
a college course which lasts from 1:00 PM to about 3:00 PM, I live in
Overland Park so it takes about 30-40 minutes to drive down to
Powell. Now I was wondering (if the extended Auto course doesn't take
place that day which would extend the time to 6PM) if anyone would be
around later in the day after 3PM to train? Or would I have to to
come Feburary instead?

Thanks,
Morgan

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Thanks for the list. I hope to make it to the training on Saturday. 

Dr.Eric
**
ASKC member-
Per the Observatory Director and President, a refresher training 
course has been requested for all keyholders and anyone else wishing 
to be trained on telescopic equipment at Powell.  If this applies to 
you, be advised that the locks at Powell will be changed April 19, 
2003.  You MUST complete a training session by then in order to 
receive a new key.  Any one that is not a keyholder wishing to be 
granted keyholder status must also attend a training session.  
(Keyholder status will not be granted simply by completing a training 
session- it also requires ASKC Board approval.)  Anyone who wants 
telescopic equipment training should also attend a training session.  
The following dates and times at Powell Observatory are available for 
training:

Saturday  January   18,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Saturday  February   8,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Sunday    February  16,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
Saturday  March     22,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.
Sunday    March     23,  2003  @   2:00 p.m.
Saturday  April     19,  2003  @  10:00 a.m.

Contact Joe Wright at   816-483-2928   or by e-mail at   
jswright@...   to sign up for a particular training session.  
Please RSVP so that we are not overbooked on any one date.

Training dates and/or times are subject to change, but every effort 
will be made to adhere to this schedule.

http://sprite.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~astrolab/mirrors/apod_e/ap030115.html

Extremely cool Eric. Sure looked like Saturn at first didn't it?
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:01 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] fantastic uranus picture you have to see


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Great training session on Sat . Thanks to participants and Joe and others for 
teaching us. Lots of fun. I will try to get my video of the session ports to 
VCR tape soon.

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)

Today we had a good group for training at the obersvatory.  Those who
attended where (in no particular order):

Gil Machin
Larry Goode
Bill Boyle
Eric Flescher
Paul Thompson
Paul Cleassen
Mike Perino
Morgan (Morgan, please send me your last name)
Nate Thames
Dave Brockway

Six rather new members of the club.  Great!!!!
Randy, Mitch and I split them into three groups and conducted a 'round
robin' training session.  This seemed to work well.

Thanks to everyone that showed up today and to my staff.   Good job
guys.

Joe

Be Careful Peoples:

As you know work is progressing on the road.  They have installed
collection basins for rain on each side of the new road.  As you
approach the observatory near the maintenance shed there are two holes
flanking the road.  The path between these holes is only about 10' or
so.  With snow blowing, this car catcher could be dangerous.

I acquired two barrels from behind the maintenance building, tied yellow
caution tape to them and placed them in front of the holes.  Can't
guarantee how long they will remain there due to wind or other(?).

Be careful approaching with running lights only.  Better to ruin
someone's night vision than to find a near earth black hole with you
car.

Joe

It's Morgan Ghosheh, I'll tell you how to pronounce it when we meet 
again :)
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wright <jswright@k...> wrote:
> > Morgan (Morgan, please send me your last name)

Morgan:

Thanks.  Your message chimed in as I found it in my list.  Thank you.

Joe

"endeavour3d " wrote:

>  It's Morgan Ghosheh, I'll tell you how to pronounce it when we meet
> again :)
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> > > Morgan (Morgan, please send me your last name)
>
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Saturday night's Coast to Coast AM feature guest is Ken Croswell.

It's currently 1:15am Sunday morning and he will be on for another 2 
ours at least probably.

FYI, in case you didn't hear, Art Bell officially retired as of the 
1st of January.

Now, while I don't take any of this stuff seriously, it is extremely 
entertaining.  I'm taping the show if anyone wants to hear at a later 
date.

-Scott

A horrible loss for Astronomy, in case you have not heard...


-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn [mailto:marilyn@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:05 AM
To: s33@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [s33] Fw: Fire has destroyed much of Mt Stromlo Observatory



----- Original Message -----
From: "Astro News" <email.news@...>
To: "Grant Christie" <grant@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: Fire has destroyed much of Mt Stromlo Observatory


> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:17:19 +1100 (EST)
> From: Russell Cannon <rdc@...>
> Subject: Re: Mt. Stromlo
>
> Terry:
>
> I've just been on the phone to Laura Stanford (PhD student at MSO), at
> about 12:30 pm on Sunday 19 Jan.  What she told me is that much of Stromlo
> has been destroyed, including the 74", Yale-Columbia and I think 50"
> telescopes, plus the workshops (probably including NIFS).  The (former)
> Director's House and many of the other houses have been destroyed,
> including Laura's (but she and her husband were staying elsewhere and are
> OK).  The Duffield and Woolley buildings have survived but have some water
> damage; the Visitor's Centre is apparently OK.  I don't know about the
> main admin building.  Away from Stromlo, I heard from another source that
> the Bessell's house has gone, but Mike and Sue are OK.  We had lunch with
> them in Duffy last Thursday, after watching the smoke from the
> then-distant fires in the Brindabellas from Mt Stromlo.  It's hard to
> believe that so much has gone since then.  We don't yet know about other
> colleagues, many of whom live in the worst affected suburbs.  This is
> obviously a huge tragedy for the people personally involved, as well as a
> disaster for Australian astronomy.
>
> I understand that there is to be a high-level visit to Stromlo by the ANU
> VC, Penny Sackett and senior staff this afternoon, to assess the
> situation.  Presumably we will hear more after that.  Also, Frank Briggs
> is setting up some sort of info clearing house.  I just spoke with Brian
> and he will coordinate an AAO response, offering whatever help we can.
> Meanwhile, we can only hope that the summary above covers the worst of the
> news, and that the fires won't flare up again today.
>
> Russell
>
> Anglo-Australian Observatory, PO Box 296, Epping, NSW 2121, Australia
> Tel: +61 2 9372 4869; Fax: +61 2 9372 4860; E-mail: rdc@...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: "Warrick Lawson" <wal@...>
> To: <afjones@...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:57 PM
> Subject: Canberra fires
>
>
>  > Dear Albert
>  >
>  > We are unscathed (in the town of Queanbeyan, to the east of
>  > Canberra).  The destruction in the west of Canberra is awful.
>  > 4 people are dead, > 400 homes in the west are destroyed or
>  > badly damaged. ~ 2000 people are homeless, with a quarter
>  > of the city without electricity.  The hope is that the fires
>  > will not flare up again.  Today was quiet, but tomorrow is
>  > predicted to be hot and windy; exactly the same conditions
>  > that drove the fires on Saturday.
>  >
>  > As Geoff wrote, Mt Stromlo Observatory is in ruins. The old
>  > administration buildings (that date from the early Canberra
>  > years) are gone, along with the library which housed a fine
>  > collection of astronomy literature. As is the 26" refractor,
>  > and the 50" reflector (which was famous for containing parts
>  > of the `Great Melbourne telescope).  I saw photos of a
>  > smoldering 74-inch dome with the coude room extension just a
>  > collapsed pile of bricks. And a multi-million dollar near-IR
>  > spectrograph destined for the 8-m Gemini South telescope,
>  > being commissioned in the past month, was destroyed along
>  > with all the workshops.  I really don't know what was left
>  > there unscathed.  Perhaps some of the new offices.
>  >
>  > I will hope, for your sake and ours, that the sunsets clear
>  > soon!  Over the past few days, the smoke has been so dense
>  > that we do not have a sunset.  The sun simply disappears
>  > when well abpve the horizon and it gets dark without colour.
>  >
>  > best wishes
>  > Warrick
>
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This is in answer to the program on the 24 that David Young put out.  David will be out of town that night and we are going to do it.  They are paying a flat fee up front. Is there any one who could help.  So far Larry Goode and Tom Martinez are doing it.  Please let me know.  Thanks 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Robin.Goode@... 
To: bgoode2@... 
Cc: woodshopg@... 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:07 PM
Subject: Chapel Lakes Elementary Math & Science Night/ASKC



Thanks!

Robin Goode
LSHS Special Education
968-1499 x 8445



JSiev45732@...
01/15/2003 09:31 PM EST

To: robin.goode@...
cc: 
bcc: 
Subject: Chapel Lakes Elementary Math & Science Night/ASKC




Hello Robin!

Thanks so much for taking the time to call me this evening.  I truly
appreciate your help!!

As we discussed, although I'm a teacher at Campbell Middle School, I am part
of a committee of teachers and parents planning a Math and Science Family
Night at Chapel Lakes Elementary School in the Blue Springs District.  The
school is located at 3701 NE Independence Avenue in Lee's Summit.  (Take
I-470 to the Woods Chapel exit.  Turn west on Woods Chapel Road.  Go to the
second stoplight and turn south on Independence Avenue. The school is about 2
blocks past this intersection on the east side of the street.)  The school
phone number is 525-9100 and the teacher contact there is Megan McQuerry.

This event is planned for Friday, January 24 at 7:00 PM.  Actually, there
will be a short PTA meeting and a puppet show from 7:00 - 7:30.  From about
7:30 - 8:50, parents and their children will rotate through 6 math/science
stations.  We were hoping that your group would set up telescopes at one of
these stations.  The groups of families will spend 10 - 15 minutes at each
station.

Currently, we have received reservation forms for 61 children and 62 adults.
We anticipate about 150 people in attendance that evening.

I am not sure about financial compensation for your trouble!  We are willing
to pay you a flat fee for your participation in this event if that is
preferable.  Could you please let me know how much you usually receive for
this type of program?

Also, what special equipment/supplies/location/setup will you need that
evening?  What do you do if the weather doesn't cooperate?  I know the kids
would be interested in seeing the telescopes and asking questions about them,
but that certainly wouldn't have the same impact that looking through them
would have!

Thanks again for contacting me.  I'm looking forward to hearing from you!
You can email or call me at school or home.  (986-1499 ext. 8404 or 478-4048)

Sincerely,

Terri Sievers


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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Harshaw" <dwharshaw@k...> wrote:
> A horrible loss for Astronomy, in case you have not heard...

Here is another detail report that David Herald (Herald-Bobroff
AstroAtlas; Occult software), sent me:

===============================================

From: "Dave Herald" <Heraldd@...>
To:   "Rob Robinson" <webmaster@...>,
Subject: Canberra bush-fires
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:21:14 +1100

I'm not sure what you might have seen on television, but I thought I would
jot down a couple of points.

Yesterday afternoon here was a living hell. A week ago several fires were
started in some mountains about 30km west of Canberra as a result of
lightening strikes. The region is remote, and the fires could not be
brought
under control - but they were not a threat.

48 hours ago we had hot strong westerly winds, which drove the fires in to
Canberra in the space of less than 24hrs. The wind was blowing embers
ahead
of the main fire front, with new outbreaks regularly occurring 1 to 5 km
ahead of the main fire front. The fires stretched the whole length of
Canberra, which is about 40km. The effect of the fires was truly a fire
storm, with some areas having incredibly strong winds that was uprooting
large trees etc. The experience was indescribably horrible.

I live about 200m from the rural area surrounding Canberra. From 2pm
yesterday the smoke of the impending fire storm was so thick that it
was as
dark as night with a full moon. I spent several hours on the roof of my
house (like many others) keeping the gutters full of water to prevent fire
from any floating embers. Fortunately in my area the fires stopped at the
edge of suburbia. Other areas of Canberra were not so lucky. Around 400
homes have been lost, 4 killed, several hundred injured, and 2300 people
stayed in shelters last night. We lost electricity in our area at
around 5pm
yesterday, and it was only restored around 4pm today (Sunday).

Other losses include Mt Stromlo Observatory. The fire destroyed the
74", 50"
and 30" telescopes, the satellite ranging facility, and the building
containing the library.

The danger is not yet over. There is no rain in sight, and there are fears
that the situation could flare up again in another couple of days.
They say
that the fire perimeters of these fires, and numerous other fires south of
Canberra, add up to about 1000km. Additionally fires went through the main
Canberra sewerage treatment plant 3 times in the last 48hrs damaging
equipment; there will be health related problems if they can't get it
working within the next 24hrs.

All this is in part due to the extreme drought conditions we have been
experiencing in eastern Australia. One of the future problems for Canberra
is that if we get heavy rains in the next few months, all the detritus
from
the fires will be washed into our primary water supply - and we will be on
severe water restriction for about 6 weeks until all that settles out
of the
water in the reservoirs.


Australia is a great country, but it can be a very harsh country.


Dave Herald 

Hi, Joe.

I signed up for keyholder training Sunday, Feb. 16th, but I heard that 
afternoon will be our Spring Banquet.   had you known that?   Can you move 
this one to Saturday, Feb 15th?

jackie



At 09:44 PM 1/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Jackie:
>
>Sorry to hear about you sister.  I did hear it on the news.  Rita
>delivers mail out of the Parkville PO.  There will more training dates.
>We are dividing the dates among the three of us.  I will post the dates
>and times tomorrow and they will be in the CM.  So far, about 5 new
>people have contacted me about training. Cool!  Somebody should write
>out the history that we talk about in the club.  You know, the stuff
>some would want to forget.  I like being around the folks that have been
>there for a while (gee, could I have put it nicer) and hear their
>stories.
>
>Joe
>
>"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:
>
> >  Hey, Joe.     I'd love to come and get some training.   But..... my
> > home
> > computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of my
> > files
> > -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous files
> > were
> > cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the
> > League work
> > on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.  Then,
> > if you
> > heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on the TV
> > news)
> > -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the
> > next week
> > or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped
> > flames.   What
> > a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking off
> > tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be working
> > on
> > the weekend, too....
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:06 PM
> > To: ASKC; Bill VanKirk, W0PT; Dave Brockway; Paul Thompson
> > Subject: [ASKC] Training
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
> > termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we
> > stay
> > out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
> > planning on the dome ring and LCT.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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"SHARON GOODE" <woodshopg@...> wrote:

>This is in answer to the program on the 24 that David Young put out.  David will be out of town that night and we are going to do it.  They are paying a flat fee up front. Is there any one who could help.  So far Larry Goode and Tom Martinez are doing it.  Please let me know.  Thanks 

I'm planning on being there, too.

David Neuenschwander

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Thanks David, It is a good money maker.  We will be doing this rain or
shine.  If the weather is not good outside we will have an alternate program
so bring scope AND pictures to share.  Thanks again


----- Original Message -----
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Fw: Chapel Lakes Elementary Math & Science Night/ASKC


> "SHARON GOODE" <woodshopg@...> wrote:
>
> >This is in answer to the program on the 24 that David Young put out.
David will be out of town that night and we are going to do it.  They are
paying a flat fee up front. Is there any one who could help.  So far Larry
Goode and Tom Martinez are doing it.  Please let me know.  Thanks
>
> I'm planning on being there, too.
>
> David Neuenschwander
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My students and I created a mirror which will fly aboard the Starshine 4. 
You all may want to watch for starshine 3.
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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Space Weather News for January 19, 2003
http://www.spaceweather.com

The glittering Starshine 3 satellite, built by schoolkids and launched in
Sept. 2001, will soon re-enter Earth's atmosphere. Can you spot the
fireball? Re-entry estimates vary from 0500 UT (midnight EST) to 1330 UT
(8:30 EST) on Tuesday, Jan. 21st. Although Starshine is likely to re-enter
above some unpopulated stretch of ocean, the satellite's final orbit does
carry it over North America and eastern Europe where sky watchers might
see it.

"There's no danger to anyone on the ground," says Prof. Gil Moore, the
director of Project Starshine. "We designed the satellite so that it will
be 100% consumed about 80 km up." Except for a few small steel screws the
body of the spacecraft is made entirely of aluminum--a substance that will
vaporize during the bright and fiery descent.

Visit spaceweather.com for more information about Starshine 3 as well as
links to the latest re-entry predictions (they will improve between now
and Tuesday) and photo tips, too!

Jackie:

What spring banquet?

Joe

Jackie Beucher wrote:

>
> Hi, Joe.
>
> I signed up for keyholder training Sunday, Feb. 16th, but I heard that
>
> afternoon will be our Spring Banquet.   had you known that?   Can you
> move
> this one to Saturday, Feb 15th?
>
> jackie
>
>
>
> At 09:44 PM 1/14/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Jackie:
> >
> >Sorry to hear about you sister.  I did hear it on the news.  Rita
> >delivers mail out of the Parkville PO.  There will more training
> dates.
> >We are dividing the dates among the three of us.  I will post the
> dates
> >and times tomorrow and they will be in the CM.  So far, about 5 new
> >people have contacted me about training. Cool!  Somebody should write
>
> >out the history that we talk about in the club.  You know, the stuff
> >some would want to forget.  I like being around the folks that have
> been
> >there for a while (gee, could I have put it nicer) and hear their
> >stories.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:
> >
> > >  Hey, Joe.     I'd love to come and get some training.   But.....
> my
> > > home
> > > computer is now trash, due to a nasty virus that infected a lot of
> my
> > > files
> > > -- and it was too old to really get back in shape after numerous
> files
> > > were
> > > cleaned/deleted.  So, going shopping tonight.  I do a lot of the
> > > League work
> > > on that computer, and Walt R. has saved all my crucial files.
> Then,
> > > if you
> > > heard about the house fire Sunday night in Parkville (it was on
> the TV
> > > news)
> > > -- that was my sister's house.  I will be helping her a lot in the
>
> > > next week
> > > or two.   It was a total loss, but a few items inside escaped
> > > flames.   What
> > > a mess.  We are really thankful that they all got out OK.  Taking
> off
> > > tomorrow to go help salvage items before the snow.  We will be
> working
> > > on
> > > the weekend, too....
> > >
> > > Jackie
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:06 PM
> > > To: ASKC; Bill VanKirk, W0PT; Dave Brockway; Paul Thompson
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Training
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will be at Powell this Saturday for training at 10:00.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of us will also be at Powell on Monday  (0900) to treat the
> > > termites and do some more winter cleaning and fixing as long as we
>
> > > stay
> > > out of the way of the exterminators.  Could be a time to do some
> > > planning on the dome ring and LCT.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Service
> > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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> > >
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Hello all,

Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this year? If
so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I sleep
through something at a board meeting?

Clear skies,

Gary



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Helen will be announcing it in the coming newsletter. It's at the Woodland's this year. She's calling it a spring banquet instead of a sweetheart to get away from the idea you can't come by yourself.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Pittman 
  To: ASKC 
  Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:42 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Banquet



  Hello all,

  Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this year? If
  so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I sleep
  through something at a board meeting?

  Clear skies,

  Gary



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David Young wrote:

>  Helen will be announcing it in the coming newsletter. It's at the
> Woodland's this year. She's calling it a spring banquet instead of a
> sweetheart to get away from the idea you can't come by yourself.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gary Pittman
>   To: ASKC
>   Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:42 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] Banquet
>
>
>
>   Hello all,
>
>   Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this
> year? If
>   so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I
> sleep
>   through something at a board meeting?
>
>   Clear skies,
>
>   Gary
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Here is the key points about the SPRING BANQUET. 
Let others know if they are not on the egroup - pass the word.

SPRING BANQUET
Sunday afternoon Feb. 16th, 2003 at 1:00pm.
The Woodland Racetrack
435 and Leavenworth Rd
Kansas City Kansas
Fun is to be had with very interesting speaker, door prizes & gaming
if you wish

EVERYONE welcome--Do not need a "date" or "signigicant other" or
"wife" to attend

RSVP WITH MONIES TO (make checks out to ASKC):

HELEN ROBINSON
515 W. Kump
Bonner Springs Ks. 66012
Questions?? please call 913-422-1262.

Thanks for the info David. I'm happy to hear we're having one.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:49 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Banquet

Helen will be announcing it in the coming newsletter. It's at the Woodland's
this year. She's calling it a spring banquet instead of a sweetheart to get
away from the idea you can't come by yourself.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gary Pittman
  To: ASKC
  Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:42 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Banquet



  Hello all,

  Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this year?
If
  so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I sleep
  through something at a board meeting?

  Clear skies,

  Gary



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Uh oh Joe, it sounds like someone forgot his Coolpix. <G>

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Banquet

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David Young wrote:

>  Helen will be announcing it in the coming newsletter. It's at the
> Woodland's this year. She's calling it a spring banquet instead of a
> sweetheart to get away from the idea you can't come by yourself.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gary Pittman
>   To: ASKC
>   Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:42 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] Banquet
>
>
>
>   Hello all,
>
>   Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this
> year? If
>   so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I
> sleep
>   through something at a board meeting?
>
>   Clear skies,
>
>   Gary
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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "sc285 <webmaster@l...>" <webmaster@l...>
wrote:
> Here is the key points about the SPRING BANQUET. 
> Let others know if they are not on the egroup - pass the word.

Ooooops! Forgot to put in price:

$20 per person

I have tried to post this twice today, but seem to get yahooed each time.  
Forgive if multiple posts occurr.

Is the 30" currently still being used in the asteroid program?  If so, perhaps 
whoever is going down to Powell for a run some nite would let me know.  I would 
like to drop by and see the operation.

John Anderson
anderiii@...

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Team Members & Key Holders:

I have uploaded the proposed 2003 schedules.  History showed that Duty
Week pairs were set alphabetically.  I continued with the same process.
If you prefer to be teamed, remember that you can substitute as in the
past.  If you do, please notify me so I can make changes to my records.
The new trainees were paired with existing key holders and also added at
random to teams.  If there are any errors or omissions please let know
that too.  Like Mr. Young wouldn't like to find my mistakes.  The key
holder list was compiled from last years list.  As you can see, there
are 4 blank spaces the duty week schedule.  I hope by the beginning of
June we can fill those spots.


Thanks,

Joe

It is Sunday, Feb. 16th in the afternoon, I heard....

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:42 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] Banquet



Hello all,

Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this year? If
so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I sleep
through something at a board meeting?

Clear skies,

Gary



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Joe,...  I clicked on that, and only found the team assignments -- no
schedule.  How do I get this?   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC
Subject: [ASKC] Powell Schedule


Team Members & Key Holders:

I have uploaded the proposed 2003 schedules.  History showed that Duty
Week pairs were set alphabetically.  I continued with the same process.
If you prefer to be teamed, remember that you can substitute as in the
past.  If you do, please notify me so I can make changes to my records.
The new trainees were paired with existing key holders and also added at
random to teams.  If there are any errors or omissions please let know
that too.  Like Mr. Young wouldn't like to find my mistakes.  The key
holder list was compiled from last years list.  As you can see, there
are 4 blank spaces the duty week schedule.  I hope by the beginning of
June we can fill those spots.


Thanks,

Joe



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Jackie:
At the bottom of the screen there should be 3 tabs.  One for teams, one
for team schedules and one for duty partners.  As I type this, I
realized that I need to send out the new peoples email address to the
team leaders.

Joe

"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:

>  Joe,...  I clicked on that, and only found the team assignments -- no
>
> schedule.  How do I get this?   Jackie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:14 PM
> To: ASKC
> Subject: [ASKC] Powell Schedule
>
>
> Team Members & Key Holders:
>
> I have uploaded the proposed 2003 schedules.  History showed that Duty
>
> Week pairs were set alphabetically.  I continued with the same
> process.
> If you prefer to be teamed, remember that you can substitute as in the
>
> past.  If you do, please notify me so I can make changes to my
> records.
> The new trainees were paired with existing key holders and also added
> at
> random to teams.  If there are any errors or omissions please let know
>
> that too.  Like Mr. Young wouldn't like to find my mistakes.  The key
> holder list was compiled from last years list.  As you can see, there
> are 4 blank spaces the duty week schedule.  I hope by the beginning of
>
> June we can fill those spots.
>
>
> Thanks,
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> Joe
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Jackie:

We each tried to pick the best dates working around many schedules
giving the best staff coverage possible and what we thought were plenty
of dates to work with for training.  I regret that there might be a
conflict, but this is inherent with every organization.  We had no clue
that anything was in the works.

Joe

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>  It is Sunday, Feb. 16th in the afternoon, I heard....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:42 PM
> To: ASKC
> Subject: [ASKC] Banquet
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Did I see something about a banquet? Is ASKC having a banquet this
> year? If
> so, when? There has been nothing in the newsletter about it. Did I
> sleep
> through something at a board meeting?
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> Clear skies,
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The 30" is alive and well and in regular use for asteroid work. Richard Fredrick, Dick Trentman and Mitch Glaze are the most active observers now. You'll probably hear directly from them.

David Young
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: anderiii@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 10:55 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] 30" asteroid work


  I have tried to post this twice today, but seem to get yahooed each time.  
  Forgive if multiple posts occurr.

  Is the 30" currently still being used in the asteroid program?  If so, perhaps 
  whoever is going down to Powell for a run some nite would let me know.  I would 
  like to drop by and see the operation.

  John Anderson
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I'm out of town until at least Thursday. 
David Young
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----- Original Message -----
From: <skranz@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:19 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Coast to Coast AM


> Saturday night's Coast to Coast AM feature guest is Ken Croswell.
>
> It's currently 1:15am Sunday morning and he will be on for another 2
> ours at least probably.
>
> FYI, in case you didn't hear, Art Bell officially retired as of the
> 1st of January.
>
> Now, while I don't take any of this stuff seriously, it is extremely
> entertaining.  I'm taping the show if anyone wants to hear at a later
> date.
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
>
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
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Hello,

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Hi, All!

I have uploaded two files to the Yahoos "Files" section.  One is a list of
tight double stars used by Brian Skiff (Lowell Obs.) to estimate seeing.
The other is a picture of the Couteau resolution images based on his book,
"Observing Visual Double Stars."  I will be referring to these documents in
my talk Saturday night.  If you want to bring a copy with you to the
meeting, download and print.




Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

Why is it that you physicists always require so much expensive equipment?
Now the Department of Mathematics requires nothing but money for paper,
pencils and waste paper baskets and the Department of Philosophy is better
still.  It doesn't even ask for waste paper baskets."
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Man, doesn't this just break any astronomers heart? See BBC coverage at 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2676247.stm 

This observatory has been described as "1/3 of Australia's optical astronomy resources".

Dave H. 




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The key point is what are they serving (set menu or buffet?) or is there a 
menu and we just order?
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
**

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 03:24:25 -0000
   From: "sc285 <webmaster@...>" 
<webmaster@...>
Subject: BANQUET INFO

Here is the key points about the SPRING BANQUET. 
Let others know if they are not on the egroup - pass the word.

SPRING BANQUET
Sunday afternoon Feb. 16th, 2003 at 1:00pm.
The Woodland Racetrack
435 and Leavenworth Rd
Kansas City Kansas
Fun is to be had with very interesting speaker, door prizes & gaming
if you wish

EVERYONE welcome--Do not need a "date" or "signigicant other" or
"wife" to attend

RSVP WITH MONIES TO (make checks out to ASKC):

HELEN ROBINSON
515 W. Kump
Bonner Springs Ks. 66012
Questions?? please call 913-422-1262.

Joe,
Good job on getting this all together so timely-it looks great!!  Looks like
we're keeping the same program topics as last year, which is fine with me.

Carroll



----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 07:35
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Powell Schedule


> Jackie:
> At the bottom of the screen there should be 3 tabs.  One for teams, one
> for team schedules and one for duty partners.  As I type this, I
> realized that I need to send out the new peoples email address to the
> team leaders.
>
> Joe
>
> "Beucher, Jackie" wrote:
>
> >  Joe,...  I clicked on that, and only found the team assignments -- no
> >
> > schedule.  How do I get this?   Jackie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:14 PM
> > To: ASKC
> > Subject: [ASKC] Powell Schedule
> >
> >
> > Team Members & Key Holders:
> >
> > I have uploaded the proposed 2003 schedules.  History showed that Duty
> >
> > Week pairs were set alphabetically.  I continued with the same
> > process.
> > If you prefer to be teamed, remember that you can substitute as in the
> >
> > past.  If you do, please notify me so I can make changes to my
> > records.
> > The new trainees were paired with existing key holders and also added
> > at
> > random to teams.  If there are any errors or omissions please let know
> >
> > that too.  Like Mr. Young wouldn't like to find my mistakes.  The key
> > holder list was compiled from last years list.  As you can see, there
> > are 4 blank spaces the duty week schedule.  I hope by the beginning of
> >
> > June we can fill those spots.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
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In the last Park Board Meeting, regarding "Hayden Blvd":

- the road inside the park is due to be complete my mid-May.  This road will still enter the park from the NW corner, go back towards the observatory and then continue on past the North side of the observatory complex - but not yet hook up to Jingo Road.

- Miami County will complete the hookup of Jingo Road and "Hayden Blvd" sometime by mid- September.  At this time the NW corner of the park wil be closed to public access.

So for most of the public season, the park entrance will continue to be at the NW corner.

"Hayden Blvd" is the name given to this road by the Park Board.  No official name has been given yet.

Also, there are a number of Boy Scout and Cub Scout groups already planning on using the park this Summer.  So we may have a lot of scouts wondering through during our public nights.

The Dirt Ralley scheduled for May 17 has been approved by the City Council.  And regardless of the city ordinance of no alcohol in the park, the Leagion wil be serving beer during the event.  This is a Saturday afternoon.  They predict that they should be done by dark, but we probably better be on the look-out for drunks stumbling over towards the observatory.

More trenching........  the Boy Scouts are having a water line put in to run water to their back shelter house.  Don't know yet where they will hook into the existing water line, so just be careful.

The Park Board seemed a little upset about a Kansas City resident critizing Lousiburg about not having adequate signs to direct people to Powell Observatory.  They wondered if WE were going to be putting in better signage.

The ASKC Board talked about this a few months ago.  What was decided to do?  Reflective paint on the current signs?  Bigger and better signs?  Also what about the idea someone had about putting flyers and directions in the stores at the corner of 68 & 69?  Even though the McDonald's has Powell Observatory astro-photos displayed on their walls, their employees have no idea where the observatory is.

Is anyone going to the City Council Meetings?????  They are held on the 1st and 3rd Monday evenings of each month.  All you need to do is sit there and listen.

More later if I think of anything I missed.

-Scott

>>> jswright@... 01/18/03 10:42PM >>>
Be Careful Peoples:

As you know work is progressing on the road.  They have installed
collection basins for rain on each side of the new road.  As you
approach the observatory near the maintenance shed there are two holes
flanking the road.  The path between these holes is only about 10' or
so.  With snow blowing, this car catcher could be dangerous.

I acquired two barrels from behind the maintenance building, tied yellow
caution tape to them and placed them in front of the holes.  Can't
guarantee how long they will remain there due to wind or other(?).

Be careful approaching with running lights only.  Better to ruin
someone's night vision than to find a near earth black hole with you
car.

Joe






 

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Scott and everybody,

Yes, we need to get the Board to approve the (modest) cost of having several
"Powell Observatory" signs made up (that comply with traffic signage codes)
and then just ask the City Council for permission to mount them on existing
posts. According to the state traffic engineer I talked to, the city of
Louisburg can approve anything as long as it meets the design codes. We need
to get this on the Board's agenda.

Dave H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warning Please Read!


> In the last Park Board Meeting, regarding "Hayden Blvd":
>
> - the road inside the park is due to be complete my mid-May.  This road
will still enter the park from the NW corner, go back towards the
observatory and then continue on past the North side of the observatory
complex - but not yet hook up to Jingo Road.
>
> - Miami County will complete the hookup of Jingo Road and "Hayden Blvd"
sometime by mid- September.  At this time the NW corner of the park wil be
closed to public access.
>
> So for most of the public season, the park entrance will continue to be at
the NW corner.
>
> "Hayden Blvd" is the name given to this road by the Park Board.  No
official name has been given yet.
>
> Also, there are a number of Boy Scout and Cub Scout groups already
planning on using the park this Summer.  So we may have a lot of scouts
wondering through during our public nights.
>
> The Dirt Ralley scheduled for May 17 has been approved by the City
Council.  And regardless of the city ordinance of no alcohol in the park,
the Leagion wil be serving beer during the event.  This is a Saturday
afternoon.  They predict that they should be done by dark, but we probably
better be on the look-out for drunks stumbling over towards the observatory.
>
> More trenching........  the Boy Scouts are having a water line put in to
run water to their back shelter house.  Don't know yet where they will hook
into the existing water line, so just be careful.
>
> The Park Board seemed a little upset about a Kansas City resident
critizing Lousiburg about not having adequate signs to direct people to
Powell Observatory.  They wondered if WE were going to be putting in better
signage.
>
> The ASKC Board talked about this a few months ago.  What was decided to
do?  Reflective paint on the current signs?  Bigger and better signs?  Also
what about the idea someone had about putting flyers and directions in the
stores at the corner of 68 & 69?  Even though the McDonald's has Powell
Observatory astro-photos displayed on their walls, their employees have no
idea where the observatory is.
>
> Is anyone going to the City Council Meetings?????  They are held on the
1st and 3rd Monday evenings of each month.  All you need to do is sit there
and listen.
>
> More later if I think of anything I missed.
>
> -Scott
>
> >>> jswright@... 01/18/03 10:42PM >>>
> Be Careful Peoples:
>
> As you know work is progressing on the road.  They have installed
> collection basins for rain on each side of the new road.  As you
> approach the observatory near the maintenance shed there are two holes
> flanking the road.  The path between these holes is only about 10' or
> so.  With snow blowing, this car catcher could be dangerous.
>
> I acquired two barrels from behind the maintenance building, tied yellow
> caution tape to them and placed them in front of the holes.  Can't
> guarantee how long they will remain there due to wind or other(?).
>
> Be careful approaching with running lights only.  Better to ruin
> someone's night vision than to find a near earth black hole with you
> car.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> The key point is what are they serving (set menu or buffet?)

Full featured buffet.
(in other words, a real pig out)

cost and what on buffet?
Dr.Eric
**
> Message: 3
>   Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 03:40:45 -0000
>   From: "sc285 <webmaster@...>" <webmaster@...>
> Subject: Re: banquet
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> > The key point is what are they serving (set menu or 
> buffet?)
> 
> Full featured buffet.
> (in other words, a real pig out)

This message is aimed at Joe W. We are getting a new TV. Can Powell
use a 27" Sharp mono color TV in great shape. 
With remote.
TV has no av inputs, just the standard RF cable conection.

If Powell can't use it does anyone else want a good TV.

                                              Gil Machin

The cost is $20, and it's the full-service buffet at the Woodlands.  

-----Original Message-----
From: KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:42 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] buffet


cost and what on buffet?
Dr.Eric
**
> Message: 3
>   Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 03:40:45 -0000
>   From: "sc285 <webmaster@...>"
<webmaster@...>
> Subject: Re: banquet
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, KCStarguy@a... wrote:
> > The key point is what are they serving (set menu or 
> buffet?)
> 
> Full featured buffet.
> (in other words, a real pig out)


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Astronomy Day is May 10th. We just want to set up outside is what I
understand.  Can you set up a meeting or have him call me at home.  I am
here most evenings after 6pm. 816-618-3076.  It should be a fun day, maybe a
discount for those entertaining the public.  Let me know what you find out
and I will keep you posted on this end.  Larry


----- Original Message -----
From: <TKristl100@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Union Station


> I have contacted Turner White, the President of Union Station/Science
> City.  I stated that ASKC would like to set up outside in the parking
> lot and talk about Astronomy Day and perhaps look at the sun.  He
> stated that Union Station would be happy to host us in May for the
> day.  He offered to also let us use the planetarium to give talks.
> We did not actually talk, but only traded voice mails.   He is
> interested in hearing out thoughts further.
>
> What do we want to do????  Use the planetarium?  Just set up
> outside?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Larry and All
Turner was happy to let us set up outside.  However, he wondered if we wanted 
to do anything else.   He suggested maybe we talk in the dome too.  I will 
give him your phone number.   I will ask him to call in the evernings.  I 
think he wants to get us to do anything.   
Tim


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Discontinue use of the "rob515@..." address.
Use the "webmaster@..." or the
"webmaster@..." address.
The swbell address is being deactivated.

Rob Robinson
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ASKC Webmaster

Back in town. 

I have a request for a star party from a group of boy scouts for this Saturday night. That's general meeting night so I won't be doing it. I'll need to tell them they need to reschedule if  I don't get a volunteer. I'll try Greg North later tonight.


David Young
dyoung8@...


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Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should have about 100?

Wording?


Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead publish it electronically?
Yes                       No



David Young
dyoung8@...


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David -- I would vote a loud NO to that, because we did discuss still
sending a shortened paper version to those that don't have Internet access?
Shouldn't that wording be part of this ballot?  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ballots


Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
have about 100?

Wording?


Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead
publish it electronically?
Yes                       No



David Young
dyoung8@...


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Actually, I think the exact wording from Tom's motion should be the question printed on the balllot.  The options should then be "I agree" and "I do NOT agree".

Scott

>>> jbeucher@... 01/23/03 04:41PM >>>
David -- I would vote a loud NO to that, because we did discuss still
sending a shortened paper version to those that don't have Internet access?
Shouldn't that wording be part of this ballot?  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [ASKC] ballots


Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
have about 100?

Wording?


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publish it electronically?
Yes                       No



David Young
dyoung8@... 


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David,

When you have what the ballot should say, send it to me and I can get 100 copies printed.

-Scott

>>> SGKRANZ@... 01/23/03 04:34PM >>>
Actually, I think the exact wording from Tom's motion should be the question printed on the balllot.  The options should then be "I agree" and "I do NOT agree".

Scott

>>> jbeucher@... 01/23/03 04:41PM >>>
David -- I would vote a loud NO to that, because we did discuss still
sending a shortened paper version to those that don't have Internet access?
Shouldn't that wording be part of this ballot?  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...] 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [ASKC] ballots


Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
have about 100?

Wording?


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publish it electronically?
Yes                       No



David Young
dyoung8@... 


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Hmmm, I agree. I'll ask Walt for it.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] ballots


  David -- I would vote a loud NO to that, because we did discuss still
  sending a shortened paper version to those that don't have Internet access?
  Shouldn't that wording be part of this ballot?  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:17 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] ballots


  Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
  have about 100?

  Wording?


  Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead
  publish it electronically?
  Yes                       No



  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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David,

You might consider printing more than 100 ballots. Considering the fact that
our members who don't usually come to many general meetings will be those
most affected if the question is approved I have a feeling this vote may
bring more members out than we are accustomed to seeing.

I had a call from a long time member the other night wanting to send in an
absentee ballot because he is in bed with a broken back and will not be able
to attend.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:17 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ballots

Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
have about 100?

Wording?


Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead
publish it electronically?
Yes                       No



David Young
dyoung8@...


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The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the minutes. 

  "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the ASKC, become a monthly newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members and the public, instead of a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller version, will be mailed to those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal at the November General Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General Meeting."  
I agree, change it                                                                             I disagree, leave it as is


I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the GM. I will announce the impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with the rest of the meeting while people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the main speaker.


David Young
dyoung8@...


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Unfortunately, the by-laws are very specific. No absentee ballots can be accepted.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Pittman 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] ballots


  David,

  You might consider printing more than 100 ballots. Considering the fact that
  our members who don't usually come to many general meetings will be those
  most affected if the question is approved I have a feeling this vote may
  bring more members out than we are accustomed to seeing.

  I had a call from a long time member the other night wanting to send in an
  absentee ballot because he is in bed with a broken back and will not be able
  to attend.

  Clear skies,

  Gary

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:17 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] ballots

  Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we should
  have about 100?

  Wording?


  Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead
  publish it electronically?
  Yes                       No



  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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Gina will provide an up to date list of current members for use by the tellers.

David Young
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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

General Meeting 

Date: Saturday, January 25, 2003 
Time: 7:00PM CST (GMT-06:00) 

 

 

OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots then?

-Scott

David Young wrote:
> 
> The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the minutes.
> 
>   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the ASKC, become a monthly
> newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members and the public, instead of
> a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller version, will be mailed to
> those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal at the November General
> Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General Meeting."
> I agree, change it                                                                             I
> disagree, leave it as is
> 
> I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the GM. I will announce the
> impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with the rest of the meeting while
> people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the main speaker.
> 
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
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Yes, I know that. I was just making you aware.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:23 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] ballots

Unfortunately, the by-laws are very specific. No absentee ballots can be
accepted.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gary Pittman
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] ballots


  David,

  You might consider printing more than 100 ballots. Considering the fact
that
  our members who don't usually come to many general meetings will be those
  most affected if the question is approved I have a feeling this vote may
  bring more members out than we are accustomed to seeing.

  I had a call from a long time member the other night wanting to send in an
  absentee ballot because he is in bed with a broken back and will not be
able
  to attend.

  Clear skies,

  Gary

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:17 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] ballots

  Anyone care to print up some ballots for Saturday night? I figure we
should
  have about 100?

  Wording?


  Shall the ASKC cease the paper version of the Cosmic Messenger and instead
  publish it electronically?
  Yes                       No



  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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Let's see if any other better suggestions come in. If not print up 150? 
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


  OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots then?

  -Scott

  David Young wrote:
  > 
  > The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the minutes.
  > 
  >   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the ASKC, become a monthly
  > newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members and the public, instead of
  > a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller version, will be mailed to
  > those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal at the November General
  > Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General Meeting."
  > I agree, change it                                                                             I
  > disagree, leave it as is
  > 
  > I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the GM. I will announce the
  > impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with the rest of the meeting while
  > people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the main speaker.
  > 
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
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OK, If I don't hear anything by 2:00 PM CST (20:00 UTC), I'm printing up 150 ballots for Saturday night.

-Scott

>>> dyoung8@... 01/23/03 07:39PM >>>
Let's see if any other better suggestions come in. If not print up 150? 
David Young
dyoung8@... 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Kranz 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


  OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots then?

  -Scott

  David Young wrote:
  > 
  > The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the minutes.
  > 
  >   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the ASKC, become a monthly
  > newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members and the public, instead of
  > a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller version, will be mailed to
  > those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal at the November General
  > Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General Meeting."
  > I agree, change it                                                                             I
  > disagree, leave it as is
  > 
  > I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the GM. I will announce the
  > impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with the rest of the meeting while
  > people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the main speaker.
  > 
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I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if the
members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:17 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


  OK, If I don't hear anything by 2:00 PM CST (20:00 UTC), I'm printing up
150 ballots for Saturday night.

  -Scott

  >>> dyoung8@... 01/23/03 07:39PM >>>
  Let's see if any other better suggestions come in. If not print up 150?
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Scott Kranz
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


    OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots then?

    -Scott

    David Young wrote:
    >
    > The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the
minutes.
    >
    >   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the
ASKC, become a monthly
    > newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members
and the public, instead of
    > a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller
version, will be mailed to
    > those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal
at the November General
    > Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General
Meeting."
    > I agree, change it
I
    > disagree, leave it as is
    >
    > I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the
GM. I will announce the
    > impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with
the rest of the meeting while
    > people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the
main speaker.
    >
    > David Young
    > dyoung8@...
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In a message dated 1/24/03 8:20:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
dwharshaw@... writes:


> I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
> printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if the
> members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?

Since I live in Dallas, and am an out of town member, I will not be able to 
attend the meeting. However, I would like to put in my own two cents worth on 
this subject. So, is there any way someone can submit a ballot for me? I 
would like to vote NO

Ed Flaspoehler


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Article Three 
4.1
Absentee ballots will be accepted only for election of officers, change of by-laws or change of dues. 

4.5
Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.


I didn't write the by-laws but I must abide by them.

I don't think this will be a close vote.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: eflaspo@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


  In a message dated 1/24/03 8:20:27 AM Central Standard Time, 
  dwharshaw@... writes:


  > I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
  > printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if the
  > members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?

  Since I live in Dallas, and am an out of town member, I will not be able to 
  attend the meeting. However, I would like to put in my own two cents worth on 
  this subject. So, is there any way someone can submit a ballot for me? I 
  would like to vote NO

  Ed Flaspoehler


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The wording was taken from the minutes and can not be changed. The board decided it was too big a decision to be made by the board alone. The membership will vote on the motion as written. If the motion is defeated there will be no changes to the way the newsletter is published. If the motion is approved there can be some further tweaking by additional motions and amendments in the future.

I think the first step is to have the vote and see if there is any need for further action.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Harshaw 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:20 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] motion


  I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
  printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if the
  members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
    Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:17 AM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


    OK, If I don't hear anything by 2:00 PM CST (20:00 UTC), I'm printing up
  150 ballots for Saturday night.

    -Scott

    >>> dyoung8@... 01/23/03 07:39PM >>>
    Let's see if any other better suggestions come in. If not print up 150?
    David Young
    dyoung8@...
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Scott Kranz
      To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:04 PM
      Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


      OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots then?

      -Scott

      David Young wrote:
      >
      > The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the
  minutes.
      >
      >   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the
  ASKC, become a monthly
      > newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC members
  and the public, instead of
      > a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but smaller
  version, will be mailed to
      > those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the proposal
  at the November General
      > Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General
  Meeting."
      > I agree, change it
  I
      > disagree, leave it as is
      >
      > I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at the
  GM. I will announce the
      > impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed with
  the rest of the meeting while
      > people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before the
  main speaker.
      >
      > David Young
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Makes sense to me!  Thanks for the clarification, Dave!

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:45 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


  The wording was taken from the minutes and can not be changed. The board
decided it was too big a decision to be made by the board alone. The
membership will vote on the motion as written. If the motion is defeated
there will be no changes to the way the newsletter is published. If the
motion is approved there can be some further tweaking by additional motions
and amendments in the future.

  I think the first step is to have the vote and see if there is any need
for further action.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dick Harshaw
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:20 AM
    Subject: RE: [ASKC] motion


    I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
    printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if
the
    members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
      Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:17 AM
      To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


      OK, If I don't hear anything by 2:00 PM CST (20:00 UTC), I'm printing
up
    150 ballots for Saturday night.

      -Scott

      >>> dyoung8@... 01/23/03 07:39PM >>>
      Let's see if any other better suggestions come in. If not print up
150?
      David Young
      dyoung8@...
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Scott Kranz
        To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:04 PM
        Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


        OK so you want me to use this and print off a 100 or so ballots
then?

        -Scott

        David Young wrote:
        >
        > The following is the text of the amended motion as recorded in the
    minutes.
        >
        >   "I move that the monthly Cosmic Messenger, the newsletter of the
    ASKC, become a monthly
        > newsletter on the World Wide Web and be made available to ASKC
members
    and the public, instead of
        > a printed and mailed publication, except, that a printed, but
smaller
    version, will be mailed to
        > those members who have no access to the Internet. Discuss the
proposal
    at the November General
        > Meeting with a membership vote to be taken at the January General
    Meeting."
        > I agree, change it
    I
        > disagree, leave it as is
        >
        > I do not intend to have any lengthy discussion about the motion at
the
    GM. I will announce the
        > impending vote and have the ballots passed out. We will proceed
with
    the rest of the meeting while
        > people mark the ballots and have them collected at a break before
the
    main speaker.
        >
        > David Young
        > dyoung8@...
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In a message dated 1/24/03 10:39:10 AM Central Standard Time, 
dyoung8@... writes:


> Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

Thanks.

Ed


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Due to Sharon's surgery (which went fine) we will postpone the educational committee meeting this month.  We will meet again in February at 5:30, before the general meeting.  A reminder that anyone is welcome and your participation in our committee's is greatly valued!
Thanks!


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I have the current list of members from Gina. If you haven't paid your dues you need to pay them tomorrow night before the meeting or you will not be eligible to vote.

Tellers will have a copy of the list and will check to see that only members are voting.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Here is a url for the observatory fire in OZ.

              http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/colless/StromloFire
    

                                                   Gil

Glad to hear Sharon is doing fine.

Clear skies,

Gary & Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:43 PM
To: e groups
Subject: [ASKC] education commitee

Due to Sharon's surgery (which went fine) we will postpone the educational
committee meeting this month.  We will meet again in February at 5:30,
before the general meeting.  A reminder that anyone is welcome and your
participation in our committee's is greatly valued!
Thanks!


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Kudos to Tom Martinez for the latest revision to the Mid-States Region web site.  It looks great!  
He has set up a link to the 2003 Mid-States Convention web site.  The convention is being held in Tulsa June 20-22.

http://www.msral.org/

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I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting. Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?

Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting and announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate about the vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I will make a very brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get this over with as quickly as possible.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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Training, training, training.

David Young wrote:

>  I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting.
> Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?
>
> Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting
> and announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate
> about the vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I
> will make a very brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get
> this over with as quickly as possible.
>
> David Young
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The 4.25 refractor needs to be sold off.


Gil
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: [ASKC] gm agenda


> I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting. Anyone
have any announcements or business to take care of?
>
> Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting and
announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate about the
vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I will make a very
brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get this over with as
quickly as possible.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
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That's your job (snicker). It will come under the heading "Observatory Director Report".

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] gm agenda


  Training, training, training.

  David Young wrote:

  >  I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting.
  > Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?
  >
  > Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting
  > and announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate
  > about the vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I
  > will make a very brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get
  > this over with as quickly as possible.
  >
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
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Do you remember the minimum bid? Was it $200?
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gil Machin 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] gm agenda


  The 4.25 refractor needs to be sold off.





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I am bringing the C&J stuff and will set it all up on tables in the meeting room.  The cost of each item (half retail)  will be on the item.

Tom Martinez
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:44 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] gm agenda


  I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting. Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?

  Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting and announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate about the vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I will make a very brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get this over with as quickly as possible.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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Yes it is $200
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] gm agenda


> Do you remember the minimum bid? Was it $200?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gil Machin
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] gm agenda
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I will have a box of surplus ASKC Astronomy magazines to be given away.
Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:44 AM
Subject: [ASKC] gm agenda


> I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting. Anyone
have any announcements or business to take care of?
>
> Since this topic has already been discussed at the November meeting and
announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal debate about the
vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then I will make a very
brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's get this over with as
quickly as possible.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting.
Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?

Be sure to bring to everyone's attention that the board meeting
minutes are posted on the blackboard and that a few hard copies are
available.
Also that ALL past minutes can be viewed online, and to check with Rob
Robinson for more details.



It's me....
Rob Robinson

Some folks asked me after my talk on Stardeck Observatory and Double Stars
to post the web links to our chat site.   So here they are:

The Washington Double Star Catalog (WDS)

http://ad.usno.navy.mil/proj/WDS/wds.html

The SIMBAD database of the University of Strassbourg (France)

http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/sim-fid.pl

Johanne Schedler's web site for WebCam double star pix:


http://www.panther-observatory.com/gallery/deepsky/doubles/Doublestars_image
d.htm

Chris Lord's Nomograph:


www.brayebrookobservatory.org


If there is enough interest in the idea, I could post the Powerpoint
presentation to the Files section.  Let me know if any would like a copy
posted there.


Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

Why is it that you physicists always require so much expensive equipment?
Now the Department of Mathematics requires nothing but money for paper,
pencils and waste paper baskets and the Department of Philosophy is better
still.  It doesn't even ask for waste paper baskets."
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Hey SA:

I forgot that general business was done at a GM.   Sometimes we jump
right into the program.

Snicker: that's that thing packed with peanuts????

David Young wrote:

>  That's your job (snicker). It will come under the heading
> "Observatory Director Report".
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joe Wright
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] gm agenda
>
>
>   Training, training, training.
>
>   David Young wrote:
>
>   >  I'm making up the agenda outline for Saturday's General Meeting.
>   > Anyone have any announcements or business to take care of?
>   >
>   > Since this topic has already been discussed at the November
> meeting
>   > and announced in the Cosmic Messenger, I intend to have minimal
> debate
>   > about the vote. I will announce the vote, ask for tellers and then
> I
>   > will make a very brief statement on the purpose of the vote. Let's
> get
>   > this over with as quickly as possible.
>   >
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>   > dyoung8@...
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This comet is getting to be more and more interesting. 6 magnitude right now 
after sunset.
If this magnitude  prognosis is right (sky & tekescope (, we might be able to 
spot it during the day. I still can't figure out how I missed Ikeya-Seki. 
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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Comet V1 magnitudes
Comet NEAT (C/2002 V1)
Date
(0h UT) R.A. (2000)
h   m   Dec.
°   '   Elong.
°   Magnitude
    Constellation
 
Jan. 17 23 54.3 +10 02  66.7    6.8 Peg
Jan. 19 23 47.2 +09 43  63.0    6.6 Peg
Jan. 21 23 40.1 +09 23  59.3    6.5 Peg
Jan. 23 23 33.2 +09 03  55.7    6.2 Peg
Jan. 25 23 26.4 +08 42  52.1    6.0 Peg
Jan. 27 23 19.5 +08 19  48.5    5.8 Peg
Jan. 29 23 12.6 +07 55  44.9    5.5 Psc
Jan. 31 23 05.6 +07 28  41.3    5.2 Psc
Feb.  2 22 58.3 +06 57  37.7    4.8 Psc
Feb.  4 22 50.8 +06 21  34.0    4.4 Peg
Feb.  6 22 42.8 +05 38  30.2    3.9 Peg
Feb.  8 22 34.2 +04 44  26.3    3.4 Peg
Feb. 10 22 24.9 +03 35  22.3    2.7 Peg
Feb. 12 22 14.6 +02 03  18.0    1.8 Aqr
Feb. 14 22 03.1 -00 08  13.6    0.6 Aqr
Feb. 16 21 50.5 -03 37    9.0   -1.1    Aqr
Feb. 18 21 41.9 -09 48    5.8   -3.0    Cap
Feb. 20 21 53.3 -17 13    7.5   -1.7    Cap
Feb. 22 22 16.0 -21 54  11.5    0.3 Aqr
Feb. 24 22 39.7 -24 43  15.3    1.7 Aqr
Feb. 26 23 02.4 -26 28  18.7    2.7 PsA
Feb. 28 23 23.6 -27 32  21.7    3.5 Scl
Mar.  2 23 43.2 -28 07  24.2    4.2 Scl

I stepped out of the room tonight at the GM during announcements,
since nature was calling. I left about the time ballots were being
taken up, and returned about 1/2 into announcement about the Spring
Banquet.
Was there any announcement about the Polar Bear Star Party?
Those I asked didn't know if anything was announced either.
Anything else I may have missed??

Rob Robinson

Thanks Dick, I'm happy someone else asked you. I was going to but got hung
up and never made it over to talk with you.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:33 PM
To: ASKC Group
Subject: [ASKC] Web Links

Some folks asked me after my talk on Stardeck Observatory and Double Stars
to post the web links to our chat site.   So here they are:

The Washington Double Star Catalog (WDS)

http://ad.usno.navy.mil/proj/WDS/wds.html

The SIMBAD database of the University of Strassbourg (France)

http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/sim-fid.pl

Johanne Schedler's web site for WebCam double star pix:


http://www.panther-observatory.com/gallery/deepsky/doubles/Doublestars_image
d.htm

Chris Lord's Nomograph:


www.brayebrookobservatory.org


If there is enough interest in the idea, I could post the Powerpoint
presentation to the Files section.  Let me know if any would like a copy
posted there.


Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

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Now the Department of Mathematics requires nothing but money for paper,
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Click on "LASCO C3" (blue) thumbnail (small picture)
It takes a while for images to load-
You can see the comet with slight tail up from the sun.
Possibly the tail will grow longer and brighter
very cool
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
member, Astronomical Society of Kansas City (ASKC)- Solar System Ambassador 
2002- JPL-(Jet Propulsion Lab) and NASA
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>       As you may remember from the last meeting, I announced that the 

> Kudo-Fujikawa comet would be seen by the SOHO satellite on about the 

> 24th of January. After checking the SOHO website this afternoon, I saw 

> the comet entering the 18 degree FOV of the satellite's LASCO C3 camera.

> 

>      You can visit the SOHO website, at 

> http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html to see the 

> images for yourself. Just select the "LASCO C3" (blue) thumbnail. The 

> comet can be seen at the top of the image near the double star Alpha 

> Capricorni. The entire tail cannot be seen yet, but in about a few days 

> it should be totally seen. It should be in the SOHO FOV until the 31st, 

> but this depends on how long the tail is.

> 

>      Enjoy!

> 

> Mike Earl.

The telescope is fully operational again. We checked all of the code and found nothing amiss. Wiggling the hand controller cables fixed the problem. We seem to have a lot of loose connections! ( I guess that's better than loose canons?)
David Young
dyoung8@...


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I was met by several members at the meeting last night with questions about 
the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party.

There were a lot of people who had somewhat forgotten about it, but others 
who were gearing up for a night observing.

The predominant question was:  Is there a warm place to sleep?
A:  You bet.

Let us define the environment so everyone who was weighing joining us at 
the ICSTARS Ranch can understand what you'd be in-for.

1:  We're about 1 hour outside of KC to the East.  Directions can be found 
on the ASKC website in the area of the Charles Douglas Observatory.

2:  There are 2 buildings that are out on the property which both have heat.
Our 1600 square-foot 'shop'  will be open just for ASKC'ers to come in, 
warm up, get coffee, and set-up cots.
There will be red-light rules in-place.
There is an operational bathroom with shower. (and hot water)
There is electrical power, internet, cable TV, Sci-Fi DVD's and outdoor 
plugs at the building.
We'll have a big table with the big coffee/ hot water pots....
Helen is debating mixing-up some chili, but is having a hard time planning 
because nobody will tell her if they're going.

The shop has 2 side-offices and a 20' x 20' main/center room.  This is 
where we'll have cleared out for folks to be comfortable.
We don't have cots for everyone.  All we have is one futon/sofa there, but 
I don't think everyone can share it.

3: The Ranch is pretty dark out here.  On moonless nights we have a problem 
locating our giant van 20 steps from the building. (blunder around until 
you bump into something big, cold and metal feeling).
There are 35 acres.  All suitable for observing.  Observe wherever you like.
People have set-up on the back '20 before, but this is a long walk up to 
the nice warm shop.
Two of the main 3 fields are good observing fields.  We'll try to go like 
we did in September in Field 1 and 2 unless you're self-sufficient with a 
trailer or camper.
We can pull power out with extension chords to run astro-toys, but no 
guarantees on the fuzes if you overload them.

4:  We don't have any activities planned during the days, but you can 
snooze late, gab, wander around, or we can suggest fun stuff around to 
do.  We didn't organize anything, since it's sort-of an ASKC thing.

5:  You're welcome to stay the whole weekend.
Jen will be a basket-case and ignore people most of the weekend, as she's 
getting ready for an expedition.
Vic will have to leave at 4am on Sunday to take Jen to the airport.
You're welcome to stay the whole weekend.

Temperatures here have been pretty cold at night, but warm during the 
day.  We saw -9 last Thursday and 40's during the days.  Average nighttime 
temps this week have been around 10 at night.   The forecast teases a warm 
Saturday.

The Seeing has been fantastic, tho.

Questions, contact Vic.
660-747-9458
913-709-5805 Cel
vwinter@...

If the skies are clear, I'll be coming down....


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:53 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: vwinter@...
  Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party


  I was met by several members at the meeting last night with questions
about
  the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party.

  There were a lot of people who had somewhat forgotten about it, but others
  who were gearing up for a night observing.

  The predominant question was:  Is there a warm place to sleep?
  A:  You bet.

  Let us define the environment so everyone who was weighing joining us at
  the ICSTARS Ranch can understand what you'd be in-for.

  1:  We're about 1 hour outside of KC to the East.  Directions can be found
  on the ASKC website in the area of the Charles Douglas Observatory.

  2:  There are 2 buildings that are out on the property which both have
heat.
  Our 1600 square-foot 'shop'  will be open just for ASKC'ers to come in,
  warm up, get coffee, and set-up cots.
  There will be red-light rules in-place.
  There is an operational bathroom with shower. (and hot water)
  There is electrical power, internet, cable TV, Sci-Fi DVD's and outdoor
  plugs at the building.
  We'll have a big table with the big coffee/ hot water pots....
  Helen is debating mixing-up some chili, but is having a hard time planning
  because nobody will tell her if they're going.

  The shop has 2 side-offices and a 20' x 20' main/center room.  This is
  where we'll have cleared out for folks to be comfortable.
  We don't have cots for everyone.  All we have is one futon/sofa there, but
  I don't think everyone can share it.

  3: The Ranch is pretty dark out here.  On moonless nights we have a
problem
  locating our giant van 20 steps from the building. (blunder around until
  you bump into something big, cold and metal feeling).
  There are 35 acres.  All suitable for observing.  Observe wherever you
like.
  People have set-up on the back '20 before, but this is a long walk up to
  the nice warm shop.
  Two of the main 3 fields are good observing fields.  We'll try to go like
  we did in September in Field 1 and 2 unless you're self-sufficient with a
  trailer or camper.
  We can pull power out with extension chords to run astro-toys, but no
  guarantees on the fuzes if you overload them.

  4:  We don't have any activities planned during the days, but you can
  snooze late, gab, wander around, or we can suggest fun stuff around to
  do.  We didn't organize anything, since it's sort-of an ASKC thing.

  5:  You're welcome to stay the whole weekend.
  Jen will be a basket-case and ignore people most of the weekend, as she's
  getting ready for an expedition.
  Vic will have to leave at 4am on Sunday to take Jen to the airport.
  You're welcome to stay the whole weekend.

  Temperatures here have been pretty cold at night, but warm during the
  day.  We saw -9 last Thursday and 40's during the days.  Average nighttime
  temps this week have been around 10 at night.   The forecast teases a warm
  Saturday.

  The Seeing has been fantastic, tho.

  Questions, contact Vic.
  660-747-9458
  913-709-5805 Cel
  vwinter@...


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Is there a finder chart somewhere?  OK.  I COULD use my star charts and
figure it out, but a chart is better!
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: KCStarguy@... [mailto:KCStarguy@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:59 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: [ASKC] v1 magnitude countdown


This comet is getting to be more and more interesting. 6 magnitude right now

after sunset.
If this magnitude  prognosis is right (sky & tekescope (, we might be able
to 
spot it during the day. I still can't figure out how I missed Ikeya-Seki. 
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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Comet V1 magnitudes
Comet NEAT (C/2002 V1)
Date
(0h UT) R.A. (2000)
h   m   Dec.
°   '   Elong.
°   Magnitude
    Constellation
 
Jan. 17 23 54.3 +10 02  66.7    6.8 Peg
Jan. 19 23 47.2 +09 43  63.0    6.6 Peg
Jan. 21 23 40.1 +09 23  59.3    6.5 Peg
Jan. 23 23 33.2 +09 03  55.7    6.2 Peg
Jan. 25 23 26.4 +08 42  52.1    6.0 Peg
Jan. 27 23 19.5 +08 19  48.5    5.8 Peg
Jan. 29 23 12.6 +07 55  44.9    5.5 Psc
Jan. 31 23 05.6 +07 28  41.3    5.2 Psc
Feb.  2 22 58.3 +06 57  37.7    4.8 Psc
Feb.  4 22 50.8 +06 21  34.0    4.4 Peg
Feb.  6 22 42.8 +05 38  30.2    3.9 Peg
Feb.  8 22 34.2 +04 44  26.3    3.4 Peg
Feb. 10 22 24.9 +03 35  22.3    2.7 Peg
Feb. 12 22 14.6 +02 03  18.0    1.8 Aqr
Feb. 14 22 03.1 -00 08  13.6    0.6 Aqr
Feb. 16 21 50.5 -03 37    9.0   -1.1    Aqr
Feb. 18 21 41.9 -09 48    5.8   -3.0    Cap
Feb. 20 21 53.3 -17 13    7.5   -1.7    Cap
Feb. 22 22 16.0 -21 54  11.5    0.3 Aqr
Feb. 24 22 39.7 -24 43  15.3    1.7 Aqr
Feb. 26 23 02.4 -26 28  18.7    2.7 PsA
Feb. 28 23 23.6 -27 32  21.7    3.5 Scl
Mar.  2 23 43.2 -28 07  24.2    4.2 Scl


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What was the result of he vote on the electronic version of the newsletter?

Ed Flaspoehler, Dallas, TX

The vote was about 3:2 to keep it as is.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: eflaspo@... [mailto:eflaspo@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:58 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Electronic Newsletter Vote


  What was the result of he vote on the electronic version of the
newsletter?

  Ed Flaspoehler, Dallas, TX

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In a message dated 1/27/03 10:15:19 AM Central Standard Time, 
dwharshaw@... writes:


> The vote was about 3:2 to keep it as is.

Sounds like a good decision to me. 

Ed


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I plan to be there Saturday night, weather permitting.  I look 
forward to finally seeing the ranch.

Rex "Which end do I look in" Green

I LOVE your signature!!!

  -----Original Message-----
  From: captrgreen <sgtgreen@...> [mailto:sgtgreen@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:34 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party


  I plan to be there Saturday night, weather permitting.  I look 
  forward to finally seeing the ranch.

  Rex "Which end do I look in" Green


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The vote on the newsletter went 48 against  25 in favor. CM stays the same.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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.  All we have is one futon/sofa there, but 
I don't think everyone can share it.

If they do, we may have to change the name of the event;-)

David Young
dyoung8@...


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You know... the neighborhood is already buzzing about the new red-light 
district.

Aerica apparently takes a little razzing at school about it.

-'could lead to dancing.

jen

At 12:18 PM 1/27/03 -0600, you wrote:
>.  All we have is one futon/sofa there, but
>I don't think everyone can share it.
>
>If they do, we may have to change the name of the event;-)
>
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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Dan Johnson, Jerry Meyers, and Rob Esson have all checked in to say 
they are definitely planning to attend.

It seems like 2-3 other members also either spoke with me at a 
meeting or sent emails to say they would come. I'm anticipating 12 to 
24 observers, depending on the weather.

Oh, Tim Kristl was one of the members who indicated he might come.

I'll twist Elly's arm to see if I can talk her into making some sort 
of snack along the line of brownies or cookies.

I'd certainly be willing to chip in for chili or anything Helen 
wanted to put together. I sort of figured that if enough people were 
so inclined we might try a restaurant in Warrensburg on Saturday.

Fiske

PS: I plan to arrive around 3:00 PM Friday afternoon and stay through 
mid-morning on Sunday.

I would love to come, but it's beginning to look like I will be helping my
brother move into his new place!  Since he's been living with me, this is
one event that I don't want to miss <g>.   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:51 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Polar Bear Star Party


You know... the neighborhood is already buzzing about the new red-light 
district.

Aerica apparently takes a little razzing at school about it.

-'could lead to dancing.

jen

At 12:18 PM 1/27/03 -0600, you wrote:
>.  All we have is one futon/sofa there, but
>I don't think everyone can share it.
>
>If they do, we may have to change the name of the event;-)
>
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
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Restaurant in Wbg sounds good--- I went to college there, but that was
before we had electricity.

Be sure to bring bottled water, though.... You can burn the stuff right out
of the taps down there.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:15 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party


  Dan Johnson, Jerry Meyers, and Rob Esson have all checked in to say
  they are definitely planning to attend.

  It seems like 2-3 other members also either spoke with me at a
  meeting or sent emails to say they would come. I'm anticipating 12 to
  24 observers, depending on the weather.

  Oh, Tim Kristl was one of the members who indicated he might come.

  I'll twist Elly's arm to see if I can talk her into making some sort
  of snack along the line of brownies or cookies.

  I'd certainly be willing to chip in for chili or anything Helen
  wanted to put together. I sort of figured that if enough people were
  so inclined we might try a restaurant in Warrensburg on Saturday.

  Fiske

  PS: I plan to arrive around 3:00 PM Friday afternoon and stay through
  mid-morning on Sunday.


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I spoke with Bruce Bradley at Linda Hall Library about organizing an 
ASKC visit to their Rare Book room. We have tentatively scheduled the 
event for Saturday, April 12 at 10:00 AM. Hopefully, this date won't 
conflict with other club activities currently planned.

Linda Hall's Rare Book collection is fabulous. It includes first 
editions of things like Gallileo's Siderius Nuncius and Copernicus' 
de Revolutionibus, as well as original star atlases published by 
astronomy greats like Bayer, Hevalius, and Bode. 

Bruce gives a terrific presentation and responded very positively to 
the suggestion for a club visit.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Fiske

This would be a great idea for all of our newer members that haven't seen
that, or haven't in awhile.   We had it open for the regional convention in
'92, then the national convention in '94.   The most recent time there was
2-3 years ago when John Dobson was in town, and we got to go in there.    It
is amazing to see Herschel's journal, with his sketches of Uranus' discovery
-- in his own hand.  I still get goose bumps just thinking about it.   Which
means I may have to go look again!  They actually let you hold these books,
too -- like, a Galileo FIRST EDITION!!!  
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:31 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Linda Hall Library Visit


I spoke with Bruce Bradley at Linda Hall Library about organizing an 
ASKC visit to their Rare Book room. We have tentatively scheduled the 
event for Saturday, April 12 at 10:00 AM. Hopefully, this date won't 
conflict with other club activities currently planned.

Linda Hall's Rare Book collection is fabulous. It includes first 
editions of things like Gallileo's Siderius Nuncius and Copernicus' 
de Revolutionibus, as well as original star atlases published by 
astronomy greats like Bayer, Hevalius, and Bode. 

Bruce gives a terrific presentation and responded very positively to 
the suggestion for a club visit.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Fiske





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That sounds great Fiske. They do have a fabulous collection there. I
encourage any ASKC'er who has never visited Linda Hall Library to attend. I'
ll try to make it if nothing else conflicts. Thanks for taking the
initiative Fiske.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:31 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Linda Hall Library Visit

I spoke with Bruce Bradley at Linda Hall Library about organizing an
ASKC visit to their Rare Book room. We have tentatively scheduled the
event for Saturday, April 12 at 10:00 AM. Hopefully, this date won't
conflict with other club activities currently planned.

Linda Hall's Rare Book collection is fabulous. It includes first
editions of things like Gallileo's Siderius Nuncius and Copernicus'
de Revolutionibus, as well as original star atlases published by
astronomy greats like Bayer, Hevalius, and Bode.

Bruce gives a terrific presentation and responded very positively to
the suggestion for a club visit.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Fiske






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There are a few spots suitable for drinking the water...

1:  Perry Fosters - Smokehouse BBQ joint.  (not a restaurant, a joint) They 
did our catering in Sept.
Awesome Ribs, but don't expect a tablecloth.
2:  Applebees - No description needed
3:  Country Kitchen - homestyle sit-down, Open 24 hours

There are regular fast-foods and a few other sit-downs.  One italian, one 
Tai, some mediocre Chinese buffets...
I understand there are some drinking establishments, but we don't know 
where any of those are.

jen


At 02:24 PM 1/27/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Restaurant in Wbg sounds good--- I went to college there, but that was
>before we had electricity.
>
>Be sure to bring bottled water, though.... You can burn the stuff right out
>of the taps down there.
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
>   Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:15 PM
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party
>
>
>   Dan Johnson, Jerry Meyers, and Rob Esson have all checked in to say
>   they are definitely planning to attend.
>
>   It seems like 2-3 other members also either spoke with me at a
>   meeting or sent emails to say they would come. I'm anticipating 12 to
>   24 observers, depending on the weather.
>
>   Oh, Tim Kristl was one of the members who indicated he might come.
>
>   I'll twist Elly's arm to see if I can talk her into making some sort
>   of snack along the line of brownies or cookies.
>
>   I'd certainly be willing to chip in for chili or anything Helen
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> sunset, around magnitude 6.  Taken tonight with a Canon 1Ds and AP 

> 155 refractor, 5 minutes ISO 800, 2 exposures stacked, mag 4.5 area 

> of the sky.  The little smudge just above the comet head is NGC 7608, 

> at mag 15; just below the head is U12510, at mag 14; the smudge 

> buried in the tail is NGC 7615, mag 15.  Several other galaxies are 

> towards the top of the image.  The comet tail was not seen visually 

> from my site.

> 

> Best regards,

> Joe Jones

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> http://www.pbase.com/image/11584557/large

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> image).

Jen,
At Fiske's suggestion, I am trying to come one night.   I will probably have 
to drive back for a Saturday morning conference, if it is Friday night.   I 
am reviewing my schedule and checking with the boss.
Tim


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Ok, here's a problem for you guys. I'm sitting in the den watching TV. I hear a flapping sound. Yeah a flapping sound. A bird is in the fireplace. It must have come down the chimney and past the damper. 

How do I get it out without hurting it? I'm thinking turn out the lights and toss a towel over it?

David Young
dyoung8@...


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David,

I don't have any words of wisdom to offer.  But I know you.  If you do eventually resort to a solution involving oxygen and acetylene gas, let me know beforehand.  I'm in the middle of taking a long image in the northern sky, and I would rather not have it spoiled by a flaming bird carcass streaking upward toward the stratosphere!

-Dave Dembinski

 

"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>Ok, here's a problem for you guys. I'm sitting in the den watching TV. I hear a flapping sound. Yeah a flapping sound. A bird is in the fireplace. It must have come down the chimney and past the damper. 
>
>How do I get it out without hurting it? I'm thinking turn out the lights and toss a towel over it?
>
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
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Open the outside door and run around waving things in the air.  Just scare 
it into flight and it'll find the door out.

- this actually happened to me TWICE.   The last time, the birdy was in a 
buck-stove.

jen

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>Ok, here's a problem for you guys. I'm sitting in the den watching TV. I 
>hear a flapping sound. Yeah a flapping sound. A bird is in the fireplace. 
>It must have come down the chimney and past the damper.
>
>How do I get it out without hurting it? I'm thinking turn out the lights 
>and toss a towel over it?
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David:

A few years ago, on Christmas eve, no less, Elly and I were in the 
living room with the dogs and cats. We have a gas fireplace that 
actual extends out from the hearth. Sounds odd, but this sort of 
thing is original for houses in our neighborhood, many of which were 
built around 1906/7. We replaced the original brick chimney (which 
wasn't big enough for a wood-burning fireplace) with metal asbestos 
in-wall pipe (eliminating the chimney chaise in a second floor 
bedroom).

Okay, so we're sitting around the fireplace when the dumb cat 
(Benegump) suddenly goes up to the gas unit and starts fidgeting 
about on one side. We're looking at him like he's on drugs, but 
before long Beatrice and Clawdio, the other two cats are right beside 
him. Beatrice is insane and Clawdio has various behaviorial 
disfunctionalities, but their both fairly sharp felines.

I had just got up to have a look when suddenly this thing comes 
flipping out from underneath the unit and sort of flops across the 
livingroom floor.

The cats were so stunned they froze. Elly screams -- it's a bird! I 
took a closer look and said, "Bird, hell! It's a bat!"

Christmas Eve. I'm not making this up. I figured I would scoop the 
thing up in a towel and deposite it outside, but when I approached, 
it took off flying around the living room. It lands on the top of 
some drapes, and peers over at us, fangs and all. It was enough to 
make my hair stand up. Elly starts to go over there saying something 
moronic like "It's soooooo cute ..." I shouted at her to stay away 
from the damn thing. "Didn't you see Dracula!"

About this time it starts winging about the room again. I opened the 
front door and chased it about with a broom until it sailed out into 
the darkness (where it belonged!).

Don't know how this story will help in your present dilemma. Oh, well.

Fiske

PS: I figured the bat was up at the top of the flue napping in the 
warm updraft, somehow lost his grip, and came tumbling down. Your 
bird might have done something similar.

PSS: You should have seen the freaking racoon a pest control guy 
pulled out of my dad's chimney one time. The thing was huge and he 
was pretty pissed off too! I'd be careful about putting my hand up 
there.  :-)

Thanks for your great solutions. Marcia wanted to get the video camera out if I resorted to running around waving my arms. I think she was considering "Funniest Home Videos".

I turned out all the lights and just reached in and garbed the thing. Looked like a starling. I took him out back and tossed him up in the air and he fly up into the tree. I'll bet he avoids that darn chimney from now on!

David Young
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Problem solved. I just reached in and grabbed it and tossed it outside. Maybe I should start a critter removal sideline. A couple of weeks ago I was tossing rabbits out of a pump pit. Those darn things are fast in a small pit. I'm also the guy who usually gets to get rid of the snakes at jobsites. I tossed a big fat copperhead out of one a while back. It was cold so he was pretty sluggish but I still used leather welding gloves on that one. About 10 years ago there was large black snake next to the door at Powell on a public night. I took the snake south of the building about 200 feet. It beat me back to the door. It seems it was having a grand time eating the bugs attracted to the light over the door. I think Debbie named him Spike. 

David Young
dyoung8@...

  PSS: You should have seen the freaking racoon a pest control guy 
  pulled out of my dad's chimney one time. The thing was huge and he 
  was pretty pissed off too! I'd be careful about putting my hand up 
  there.  :-)




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"and he fly up into the tree"  Maybe I should have said he flew up into the tree?
David Young
dyoung8@...


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If it does land, would it be called a "birderoite"?
Dr.Eric

> 
> Message: 19
>    Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:30:32 -0500
>    From: DembinskiD@...
> Subject: RE: problem
> 
> David,
> 
> I don't have any words of wisdom to offer.  But I know you.  If you do 
> eventually resort to a solution involving oxygen and acetylene gas, let me 
> know beforehand.  I'm in the middle of taking a long image in the northern 
> sky, and I would rather not have it spoiled by a flaming bird carcass 
> streaking upward toward the stratosphere!
> 
> -Dave Dembinski
> 
> 



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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> How do I get it out without hurting it? I'm thinking turn out the
lights and toss a towel over it?

We get them in the shop all the time when the huge overhead doors are
left open for extended periods. They spend the night up in the roof
support beams, and then in the morning, before we turn all the light
on, we open the doors. It's dark everywhere else, except where the
doors are and they head for the light and exit quite quickly.
Try shutting off all you house lights; turn a God light on outside
(you know, one of those WalMart 5 million candle power thingies), and
they will head toward the light. Duck when he come flying out. They
move at the speed of sound when they've been cooped up.

Rob

What department at WalMart has the God light?

It's dark everywhere else, except where the
doors are and they head for the light and exit quite quickly.
Try shutting off all you house lights; turn a God light on outside
(you know, one of those WalMart 5 million candle power thingies),

Clear Skies,

Randy


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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
  > How do I get it out without hurting it? I'm thinking turn out the
  lights and toss a towel over it?

  We get them in the shop all the time when the huge overhead doors are
  left open for extended periods. They spend the night up in the roof
  support beams, and then in the morning, before we turn all the light
  on, we open the doors. It's dark everywhere else, except where the
  doors are and they head for the light and exit quite quickly.
  Try shutting off all you house lights; turn a God light on outside
  (you know, one of those WalMart 5 million candle power thingies), and
  they will head toward the light. Duck when he come flying out. They
  move at the speed of sound when they've been cooped up.

  Rob


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    Birds are nasty critters. They make a mess and fly away. The mess could
be loaded with living parasites. A guy at work almost died from cleaning out
his gutters with bare hands. He got infected with the parasite and the
Doctors almost overlooked the cause. So, now you have a reason to NOT clean
out the gutters. Your welcome.
    Bats are another story. They are really very clean, but subject to
rabies. And, they are protected by law. It is unlawful to molest a bat at
any time in most states. Animal control in some areas will remove these
pests.
    Starlings are not protected and may be exterminated at any time.
Good Hunting. :-)

Clear Skies,

Randy


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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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  "and he fly up into the tree"  Maybe I should have said he flew up into
the tree?
  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
> What department at WalMart has the God light?

I believe it is either in the automotive (used when you are broke
down) or sporting goods (for the deer poacher)


Rob

Hey Dude:

Find out what kind of bird and imitate its mating ritual.  It might
follow you.

Of by the way.  Could we have people that don't talk load at the GM to
use a microphone.  I didn't hear Jackie's announcement about the new
award clearly.  I heard," brand new spanking award."  Rita corrected me
that it was, "brand spanking new award."  That's what I get for sitting
in the back row.

Have a nice day.

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>  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
> > What department at WalMart has the God light?
>
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> down) or sporting goods (for the deer poacher)
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unless it lands on some celestial body other than earth, then it would be a birderoide
David Young
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:26 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] bird


  If it does land, would it be called a "birderoite"?
  Dr.Eric

  > 
  > Message: 19
  >    Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:30:32 -0500
  >    From: DembinskiD@...
  > Subject: RE: problem
  > 
  > David,
  > 
  > I don't have any words of wisdom to offer.  But I know you.  If you do 
  > eventually resort to a solution involving oxygen and acetylene gas, let me 
  > know beforehand.  I'm in the middle of taking a long image in the northern 
  > sky, and I would rather not have it spoiled by a flaming bird carcass 
  > streaking upward toward the stratosphere!
  > 
  > -Dave Dembinski
  > 
  > 



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  Find out what kind of bird and imitate its mating ritual.  It might
  follow you.

  This idea wouldn't be founded on personal experience would it?

  Ah, now I see why "It is unlawful to molest a bat at any time in most states. "


  David Young
  dyoung8@...




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No that's a birderide isn't it?
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] bird


  unless it lands on some celestial body other than earth, then it would be a birderoide
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
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    Subject: [ASKC] bird


    If it does land, would it be called a "birderoite"?
    Dr.Eric

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    > Message: 19
    >    Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:30:32 -0500
    >    From: DembinskiD@...
    > Subject: RE: problem
    > 
    > David,
    > 
    > I don't have any words of wisdom to offer.  But I know you.  If you do 
    > eventually resort to a solution involving oxygen and acetylene gas, let me 
    > know beforehand.  I'm in the middle of taking a long image in the northern 
    > sky, and I would rather not have it spoiled by a flaming bird carcass 
    > streaking upward toward the stratosphere!
    > 
    > -Dave Dembinski
    > 
    > 



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One good thing about bats -- they eat bugs. Lots of bugs. :-)

I wanted to build a birdhouse for one of my nieces for her birthday, 
so I was looking through books with birdhouse plans and found a few 
that had plans for bat houses. Kind of an interesting idea. The sort 
of thing you might expect from the Adam's Family or the Munsters.

Fiske

From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a long-time member:

Bats are astronomers best friends.

Mouse-eared bats, the ones most commonly found in buildings in North America and Europe, can catch up to 500 or more insects, including many mosquitoes, in a single hour.

One colony of 20 million free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) can eat more than a quarter of a million pounds (113 metric tonnes) of insects nightly. That's the equivalent weight of 23 Asian elephants!

The Congress Avenue bridge in Austin, Texas, shelters an estimated 750,000 Mexican free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) that consume more than 15,000 pounds (6,800 kg.) of insects nightly.

Fewer than ten people in over 50 years have contracted rabies from North American bat species that commonly live in bat houses. Like all mammals, bats can contract rabies, though very few do (less than half of one percent). Unlike many other animals, even rabid bats rarely become aggressive. They quickly die from the disease, and outbreaks in their colonies are extremely rare. 

The odds of being harmed by a rabid bat are remote if you simply do not attempt to handle bats. Any bat that can be easily caught should be assumed to be sick and left alone. We do not recommend attracting bats to places where curious children are likely to attempt handling them. With or without bats in your yard, the most important action you can take to protect your family from rabies is to vaccinate your family dogs and cats. 

Check it out at www.batcon.org

FREE bathouse plans   www.batcon.org/bhra/economyhouse.html

-Scott


>>> FiskeM3@... 01/28/03 09:27AM >>>
One good thing about bats -- they eat bugs. Lots of bugs. :-)

I wanted to build a birdhouse for one of my nieces for her birthday, 
so I was looking through books with birdhouse plans and found a few 
that had plans for bat houses. Kind of an interesting idea. The sort 
of thing you might expect from the Adam's Family or the Munsters.

Fiske




 

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In a message dated 1/27/03 11:10:56 PM Central Standard Time, Dsinger@... 

writes:


> Our club (Spokane Astronomical Society) does belong to the AL. 
> We did have a couple of young astronomers 'place' in the recent 
> Horkheimer awards, and we give out observing certificates.
> I guess I was wanting to know how much - if any - interaction there 
> is with the League among its club affiliates, and how much awareness 
> there is in the individual clubs of what the League has to offer.  
> Are there regional AL functions other than the annual national 
> convention?  How do regional reps present AL information?
> What do they present?
> 

Mary:

Your club, the Spokane Astronomical Society, hosted the AL convention in 
1999. It was an excellent event. I know because I was there. Perhaps you can 
find someone in the SAS who can tell you more about it. Cindy Pasich was 
president of the Spokane Astronomical Society at that time. Or you can read 
my review on the AAAA website: http://www.quada.org/astrocon99/a99-main.htm

The Astronomical League is a rather large, but somewhat nebulous 
organization. I think there are currently over 275 clubs in the AL, with more 
than
20,000 individual members. It is completely run by volunteers who believe in 
both the science and hobby of amateur astronomy, and who are doing their best 
to 
keep things going.

The main benefit you and your club members will see from the Astronomical 
League is the REFLECTOR, the national newsletter, which is mailed out to all 
members of record four times a year. Please note the phrase, of record. This 
means that if your club does not keep the AL informed of who your members 
are, they will not receive the REFLECTOR. Keeping the address list up to date 

is the biggest problem the AL has. They depend on the local clubs to provide 
that imformation.

The AL is justly famous for its many observing programs. The most important, 
perhaps, are the Messier Club, and the Herschel club. But there are many 
observing programs that people can do, from beginners to advanced amateurs. 
Membership in the League through membership in your club entitles people to 
certification through the AL.

Yes, there is a national convention each year. In 2003, it will be in 
Nashville, TN. Last summer it was in Salt Lake City. The national 
convention moves around, partly so that people from various parts of the 
country can attend, and partly because the host society changes from year to 
year.

The AL has about 10 regions, I forget the exact number. Each region is 
encouraged to have a convention in its own area. For example, I live in 
Texas, and the Texas Star Party is also the regional convention of the 
Southwest Region each year. I think the Table Mountain Star Party often 
functions as the regional conventinon for the Northwest Region, of which 
Spokane is a member. Whether or not there is a regional convention depends on 

the people in the region, and how much they want to be involved.

Working for the AL is an uphill battle. I know, because I was REFLECTOR 
editor for 11 years. It seemed no matter what I did, people did not notice. I 

was always getting complaints from people who did not receive my magazine 
because their local club had not submitted their address, or forgot to send 
in a change of address. I spent reams of paper and buckets of ink promoting 
the AL and its activities, and somehow, there was always someone who did not 
get the message. And there were the perennial complaints about not getting 
enough service for the money.

Basically, the AL is like any other organization. You get out of it what you 
put into it. It is like your local astronomy club, just on a larger scale. If 

you do not find out what the club offers, go to meetings, and participate in 
activities, you may wonder what good it is. Same with the AL. You do not 
expect the club to do everything for you, including buy your telescope and do 

your observing. And the AL cannot either.

You can find out more about the AL on its various web sites:

http://www.astroleague.org/ is the main AL web site. Here, you can find out 
about the many benefits of AL membership, find a list of clubs, and learn 
about the League and its operating procedures.

http://www.astronomicalleague.com/  is the AL online store. Here you can buy 
copies of the various observing programs, as well as logo merchandise and 
astronomy related materials.

Another good place to find information about the various AL observing 
programs is on my website, The American Association of Amateur Astronomers. I 

have made PDF copies of all the AL's free observing programs, and made them 
available for download. Feel free to make as many copies of these PDF files 
as you wish, and distribute them to your own members as well as the general 
public. It is a good idea to have copies of the main observing programs at 
all club meetings for people to take. 

http://www.quada.org/aa01006.htm

Think of the AL and the programs it provides as an additional tool that you 
and your club can use to promote astronomy, both to your membership and the 
general public, rather than a commodity you buy' and distribute. Learn how to 
use this tool properly, and it will become of great value to you.

I hope this helps some. The AL is a great organization, with a great purpose, 

but it takes involvement from all of us to make it work. 

Ed Flaspoehler, President
American Association of Amateur Astronomers
http://www.astromax.com

BTW: Feel free to address your questions and concerns to the AL officers 
directly. You can find contact information in any recent copy of the 
REFLECTOR.

If it streaks through the atmosphere air it would be a  birdeor but if it strike the ground a birdeorite.If it is a real big one birderoid. 

Dr.Eric

And Elly is right, Fiske... Bats ARE sooo cute!   :-)


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  From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:25 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: what?


  From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a long-time
member:

  Bats are astronomers best friends.

  Mouse-eared bats, the ones most commonly found in buildings in North
America and Europe, can catch up to 500 or more insects, including many
mosquitoes, in a single hour.

  One colony of 20 million free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) can eat
more than a quarter of a million pounds (113 metric tonnes) of insects
nightly. That's the equivalent weight of 23 Asian elephants!

  The Congress Avenue bridge in Austin, Texas, shelters an estimated 750,000
Mexican free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) that consume more than
15,000 pounds (6,800 kg.) of insects nightly.

  Fewer than ten people in over 50 years have contracted rabies from North
American bat species that commonly live in bat houses. Like all mammals,
bats can contract rabies, though very few do (less than half of one
percent). Unlike many other animals, even rabid bats rarely become
aggressive. They quickly die from the disease, and outbreaks in their
colonies are extremely rare.

  The odds of being harmed by a rabid bat are remote if you simply do not
attempt to handle bats. Any bat that can be easily caught should be assumed
to be sick and left alone. We do not recommend attracting bats to places
where curious children are likely to attempt handling them. With or without
bats in your yard, the most important action you can take to protect your
family from rabies is to vaccinate your family dogs and cats.

  Check it out at www.batcon.org

  FREE bathouse plans   www.batcon.org/bhra/economyhouse.html

  -Scott



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I guess I'm the only one to notice that the post office is currently 
offering "Bat Stamps".
They only have 4 varieties of bats on them, but they're really cool.



At 11:14 AM 1/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
>And Elly is right, Fiske... Bats ARE sooo cute!   :-)
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:25 AM
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ASKC] Re: what?
>
>
>   From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a long-time
>member:
>
>   Bats are astronomers best friends.
>
>   Mouse-eared bats, the ones most commonly found in buildings in North
>America and Europe, can catch up to 500 or more insects, including many
>mosquitoes, in a single hour.
>
>   One colony of 20 million free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) can eat
>more than a quarter of a million pounds (113 metric tonnes) of insects
>nightly. That's the equivalent weight of 23 Asian elephants!
>
>   The Congress Avenue bridge in Austin, Texas, shelters an estimated 750,000
>Mexican free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) that consume more than
>15,000 pounds (6,800 kg.) of insects nightly.
>
>   Fewer than ten people in over 50 years have contracted rabies from North
>American bat species that commonly live in bat houses. Like all mammals,
>bats can contract rabies, though very few do (less than half of one
>percent). Unlike many other animals, even rabid bats rarely become
>aggressive. They quickly die from the disease, and outbreaks in their
>colonies are extremely rare.
>
>   The odds of being harmed by a rabid bat are remote if you simply do not
>attempt to handle bats. Any bat that can be easily caught should be assumed
>to be sick and left alone. We do not recommend attracting bats to places
>where curious children are likely to attempt handling them. With or without
>bats in your yard, the most important action you can take to protect your
>family from rabies is to vaccinate your family dogs and cats.
>
>   Check it out at www.batcon.org
>
>   FREE bathouse plans   www.batcon.org/bhra/economyhouse.html
>
>   -Scott
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Oh! No Doubt, BATS are COOL!

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:51 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Batty


  I guess I'm the only one to notice that the post office is currently
  offering "Bat Stamps".
  They only have 4 varieties of bats on them, but they're really cool.



  At 11:14 AM 1/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
  >And Elly is right, Fiske... Bats ARE sooo cute!   :-)
  >
  >
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
  >   Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:25 AM
  >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >   Subject: [ASKC] Re: what?
  >
  >
  >   From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a long-time
  >member:
  >
  >   Bats are astronomers best friends.
  >
  >   Mouse-eared bats, the ones most commonly found in buildings in North
  >America and Europe, can catch up to 500 or more insects, including many
  >mosquitoes, in a single hour.
  >
  >   One colony of 20 million free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) can
eat
  >more than a quarter of a million pounds (113 metric tonnes) of insects
  >nightly. That's the equivalent weight of 23 Asian elephants!
  >
  >   The Congress Avenue bridge in Austin, Texas, shelters an estimated
750,000
  >Mexican free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) that consume more than
  >15,000 pounds (6,800 kg.) of insects nightly.
  >
  >   Fewer than ten people in over 50 years have contracted rabies from
North
  >American bat species that commonly live in bat houses. Like all mammals,
  >bats can contract rabies, though very few do (less than half of one
  >percent). Unlike many other animals, even rabid bats rarely become
  >aggressive. They quickly die from the disease, and outbreaks in their
  >colonies are extremely rare.
  >
  >   The odds of being harmed by a rabid bat are remote if you simply do
not
  >attempt to handle bats. Any bat that can be easily caught should be
assumed
  >to be sick and left alone. We do not recommend attracting bats to places
  >where curious children are likely to attempt handling them. With or
without
  >bats in your yard, the most important action you can take to protect your
  >family from rabies is to vaccinate your family dogs and cats.
  >
  >   Check it out at www.batcon.org
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Yeah I noticed.  I picked up a couple sheets the day they were released.

-Scott

Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy wrote:
> 
> I guess I'm the only one to notice that the post office is currently
> offering "Bat Stamps".
> They only have 4 varieties of bats on them, but they're really cool.
> 
> At 11:14 AM 1/28/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >And Elly is right, Fiske... Bats ARE sooo cute!   :-)
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
> >   Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:25 AM
> >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subject: [ASKC] Re: what?
> >
> >
> >   From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a long-time
> >member:
> >
> >   Bats are astronomers best friends.
> >
> >   Mouse-eared bats, the ones most commonly found in buildings in North
> >America and Europe, can catch up to 500 or more insects, including many
> >mosquitoes, in a single hour.
> >
> >   One colony of 20 million free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) can eat
> >more than a quarter of a million pounds (113 metric tonnes) of insects
> >nightly. That's the equivalent weight of 23 Asian elephants!
> >
> >   The Congress Avenue bridge in Austin, Texas, shelters an estimated 750,000
> >Mexican free-tailed bats (Tadarida brasiliensis) that consume more than
> >15,000 pounds (6,800 kg.) of insects nightly.
> >
> >   Fewer than ten people in over 50 years have contracted rabies from North
> >American bat species that commonly live in bat houses. Like all mammals,
> >bats can contract rabies, though very few do (less than half of one
> >percent). Unlike many other animals, even rabid bats rarely become
> >aggressive. They quickly die from the disease, and outbreaks in their
> >colonies are extremely rare.
> >
> >   The odds of being harmed by a rabid bat are remote if you simply do not
> >attempt to handle bats. Any bat that can be easily caught should be assumed
> >to be sick and left alone. We do not recommend attracting bats to places
> >where curious children are likely to attempt handling them. With or without
> >bats in your yard, the most important action you can take to protect your
> >family from rabies is to vaccinate your family dogs and cats.
> >
> >   Check it out at www.batcon.org
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Jackie:  I case nobody has given you a link to charts for comets, here is one:
http://www.shopplaza.nl/astro/comets/comets.htm

Also, check out this link for a really nice 3D orbit visualization of a comets path through the solar system.  The site is mainly for asteroids, but just type in the comet's designation (c/2002 v1) and click on Search:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/

Tom

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] v1 magnitude countdown


  Is there a finder chart somewhere?  OK.  I COULD use my star charts and
  figure it out, but a chart is better!
   
  Jackie



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Gina,
Was that bats or Batman that was so cute????
Tim


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Although not everyone does occultations and grazes, the logistics of
going out into the middle of nowhere, when it is freezing cold,
presents a different set of problems, than when observing on a 70
degree balmy night. Cold effects everything! Here is a list of "cold
weather tips" that have been compiled from various postings on the
IOTA egroup list. Although most of this doesn't apply to the average
observer, ideas presented can be applied to other equipment issues.
Maybe some of these points will aid you in deciding how to dress, how
to maximize equipment usage, and just plain how to make it a
successful observing session:

==================================================================

1. Of course, dress very warm not just ski clothes. Remember layers!

2. Batteries lose half their amperage every 10 degrees C they drop.
keep them in a cooler with 3/4 filled plastic or metal bottles of
water. This will keep them at 0 degrees C.

3. Laptops need external power and the hard drive started when it is
relativly warm. Once started a hard drive will keep going but
extended periods of sleep mode is actually death mode. LCD screens
are one of the few electronic components that have trouble with
extreme cold and may need a CRT backup.

4. High torque motors used for scope drives usually have no trouble
but VCRs, camcorders, recorders have a struggle with a cold start.
Either keep them running or put them inside your clothing.

5. Glass radiates heat to a cold sky much faster than the surrounding
air. A dew shield is a necessity even if it is very dry. A small
cloth should be draped over the eyepiece to shield it from the sky and
hand warming the eyepiece is a practical solution to frost. Fogging
the eyepiece from moisture steaming off the eyes and skin can be
reduced by means of a light colored eypiece filter with a rubber eye
cup pulled over it. The device is kept in a warm pocket until use.
It is hand held over the eyepiece. This device also helps watery
eyes. Keep the observing eye closed until it is looking thru the device.

I hope this helps.

Jim Vail
==========================================================
From:  "Guy Nason" <guynason@...>
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  1:28 pm
Subject:  Cold Tips (Was: 498 Tokio)

Thanks, Jim, for your advice.

Taken point by point:

1) I was well dressed and quite comfortable. One of the few beneficial
spin-offs from the snowmobile industry is winter clothing. Sorel Boots
rated to -100C and heavy snowmobile Farmer John overalls combined with
sheepskin coat, hat and mitts does wonders. Of course poly-pro
underwear is
nice, too. Toasty warm at -25C.

2) I've heard of the cooler trick wrt keeping batteries warm, but with the
addition of chemical type hand warmers. The water trick sounds good.
Cheaper, too. I'll try it next time.

3) Pass. No lap tops in my arsenal.

4) This is the real problem. Since I run my TV/VCR combo unit off 12v
DC in
the field, I can't pre-start it and keep it running for hours during
transit. And the 1'x1'x1' cube doesn't lend itself to storage under my
jacket. :-) However, I do keep it in the warm van as long as possible.
I'll try leaving it there throughout the occultation, rather than plopping
it on a table beside the scope. That should be do-able by increasing cable
lengths and running them through a slightly open window.

5) Since my scopes of choice for occultations are newtonians (10" and 6"),
dew shields are unnecessary. But the filter-and-rubber-eye-cup trick
sounds
neat for keeping the eyepiece clear. I'll "give it a go" (as my Limey
friends say). By matching the filter colour to the star's spectral class,
it might even increase the target's visibility.

Thanks for the tips.

Guy

=============================================================

From:  <jllastro@...>
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  2:55 pm
Subject:  Re: [IOTAoccultations] Cold Tips (Was: 498 Tokio)


I can't say that I have done many occultations when it is well below
freezing
but there have been a few when it has been around the freezing point.
I have
developed a few techniques that might help. I keep the TV/VCR combo in the
back seat of the car and the 12V battery on the floor of the back
seat. I hook
up most of the power cords, video cables, gps, etc. before heading
out. This
minimizes set up time in the field. I just open up the back door to
view the
screen. I keep a blanket wrapped over the the top of the TV/VCR combo
unit.
The main idea behind this is dew prevention. Dew can quickly render a VCR
inoperable. The blanket holds the heat in quite well. Even down to
freezing,
after just a few minutes of operation, the time to focus and find the
target on
video, the combo unit is distinctly warm to the touch.

Jeff Lackmeyer


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In a message dated 1/28/03 9:26:03 PM Central Standard Time, 
piekielrl@... writes:


>   Dear Sir,
> I am writing this letter in hopes that you might be
> able to help me locate two items. I'm searching for an
> old, blue and white Celestron C6 SCT with the fork
> mount, and an old Blue and white Celestron C12 SCT,
> whole or in pieces. Either scope could be "dead or
> alive." They were made in the late 60s through early
> 70s, and while they are out there, they seem to be
> collecting dust in many observatories or attics as
> people of course favor the new, modern SCTs with
> electronics, light weight mounts, etc. Somebody out
> there MUST know of one of these scopes, or know of
> someone who has seen one, perhaps in a university, a
> friend's house, or perhaps belonging to a club long
> ago. If you could help me find one, I would be willing
> to pay you a finder's fee or something for your
> efforts. If you don't know of any scopes like these
> right off the bat, perhaps you could forward this
> request to a friend, collegue, or anyone who might
> know of one. Thank you very much,
> 
> Robert Piekiel 18 Wilson Dr. Box 64, Marcellus, NY
> 13108. phone 315-673-3093. email: piekielrl@...
> 

I am posting your question to some astronomy news groups. Perhaps they can 
help. If so, please respond directly to this gentleman.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA


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Thanks, Tom -- that is just what I needed!   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Martinez [mailto:martinez@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:40 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] v1 magnitude countdown


Jackie:  I case nobody has given you a link to charts for comets, here is
one:
http://www.shopplaza.nl/astro/comets/comets.htm
<http://www.shopplaza.nl/astro/comets/comets.htm> 

Also, check out this link for a really nice 3D orbit visualization of a
comets path through the solar system.  The site is mainly for asteroids, but
just type in the comet's designation (c/2002 v1) and click on Search:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/ <http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/> 

Tom

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] v1 magnitude countdown


  Is there a finder chart somewhere?  OK.  I COULD use my star charts and
  figure it out, but a chart is better!
   
  Jackie



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Batman:  looks stupid.  Bats: look really cute... Sort of like mice with
wings.  Doesn't get much better in the cuteness department.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: TKristl100@... [mailto:TKristl100@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:21 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: what?


  Gina,
  Was that bats or Batman that was so cute????
  Tim


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> >   From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a 
long-time
> >member:
> >
> >   Bats are astronomers best friends.
> >

Perhaps I should include plans for building a bat house in the next 
CM? 

Fiske

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Gina Fedon" <antares@e...> wrote:
> Batman:  looks stupid.  Bats: look really cute... Sort of like mice 
with
> wings.  Doesn't get much better in the cuteness department.

I thought Michael Keaton made a pretty good batman -- the rest of 
them were lame.

Now, on the bat cute thing: they are furry and they have mouse-like 
ears, but what about their snouts and fangs? I mean have you really 
taken a close look at a live bat (peering down at you from your 
living room drapes, for example). They don't look THAT much like mice.

Fiske

That would be cool!

I'd send a copy of the CM then to BCI and we'd get more exposure.

I've built about 6 bat houses already.  I built a 3 chamber nursery for my dad about 5 years ago.  The 2nd year it was up, it was occupied.  The last 2 or 3 years he's had probably close to 100 bats with young roosting there.  He is up in Minnesota so the bats migrate each winter.  I figure the same ones probably come back year after year, but it's hard to tell since they are not tagged.  I never think of checking, but I'm sure the grass below the house is probably lush green.  Bat guano is the richest fertilizer available.

-Scott


>>> FiskeM3@... 01/29/03 08:53AM >>>
> >   From Bat Conservation International, of which I have been a 
long-time
> >member:
> >
> >   Bats are astronomers best friends.
> >

Perhaps I should include plans for building a bat house in the next 
CM? 

Fiske




 

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You have a Thai restaurant!!! I love that food. Have you tried it? Is it
good? I'm not doing polar bear stuff this winter but when it warms up a bit
that will be first on my agenda.
Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
[mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:12 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party


There are a few spots suitable for drinking the water...

1:  Perry Fosters - Smokehouse BBQ joint.  (not a restaurant, a joint) They
did our catering in Sept.
Awesome Ribs, but don't expect a tablecloth.
2:  Applebees - No description needed
3:  Country Kitchen - homestyle sit-down, Open 24 hours

There are regular fast-foods and a few other sit-downs.  One italian, one
Tai, some mediocre Chinese buffets...
I understand there are some drinking establishments, but we don't know
where any of those are.

jen


At 02:24 PM 1/27/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Restaurant in Wbg sounds good--- I went to college there, but that was
>before we had electricity.
>
>Be sure to bring bottled water, though.... You can burn the stuff right out
>of the taps down there.
>
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>   From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> [mailto:FiskeM3@...]
>   Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:15 PM
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party
>
>
>   Dan Johnson, Jerry Meyers, and Rob Esson have all checked in to say
>   they are definitely planning to attend.
>
>   It seems like 2-3 other members also either spoke with me at a
>   meeting or sent emails to say they would come. I'm anticipating 12 to
>   24 observers, depending on the weather.
>
>   Oh, Tim Kristl was one of the members who indicated he might come.
>
>   I'll twist Elly's arm to see if I can talk her into making some sort
>   of snack along the line of brownies or cookies.
>
>   I'd certainly be willing to chip in for chili or anything Helen
>   wanted to put together. I sort of figured that if enough people were
>   so inclined we might try a restaurant in Warrensburg on Saturday.
>
>   Fiske
>
>   PS: I plan to arrive around 3:00 PM Friday afternoon and stay through
>   mid-morning on Sunday.
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Well, they might look like rats with wings... Some are pig-faced... Others
are their own thing.  Yeah, I've seen live bats, but I have no problem with
the little cute fangs or a variety of snouts.  Still like them.    :-)

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  Now, on the bat cute thing: they are furry and they have mouse-like
  ears, but what about their snouts and fangs? I mean have you really
  taken a close look at a live bat (peering down at you from your
  living room drapes, for example). They don't look THAT much like mice.

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I guess now would be a poor time to point out that astronomers who are up 
late can find original series Batman on nightly at 3am?

BIFF - POW!

I also have an old, old story of a friend of the family involving bats from 
my youth.  A pair of his pants had been pulled off the clothesline and 
fallen against the outside of the garage wall... in a way such that they 
went unnoticed for about a week.
The man went out to collect his pants and found them to be filled with bats!
Apparently, the fabric made a suitable place for a mother bat, unable to 
find room at the Inn, to berth her roost of baby bats.
Now the rather alarmed gentleman who was no longer holding a pair of pants 
filled with bats was in a quandry.
He of course was unclear on the proper protocol when one finds baby bats 
nesting in his drawers, as he was absent from school that day.
His wife (who has since been blamed as was the party responsible for the 
dropping of the drawers) suggested that he call animal control to have the 
bats removed.  His son (who believed the juvenile delinquent bats had 
themselves pulled the unsuspecting clothing from the line with malicious 
intent) suggested they call the police to report the hulligans.

The gentleman opted instead, to hang the occupied pants up on the wall of 
his garage, to be sure to protect the baby bats from harmful passers by, 
and lawnmowers.  He returned several days later to find the britches 
unoccupied and the little family gone, their whereabouts unknown to this day.

The pants, however, were soon thereafter incinerated.

The end.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Baby Bat Screamed Out In Fright,
"Turn on the Dark, I'm Afraid of the Light!"
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

jen


At 03:01 PM 1/29/03 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Gina Fedon" <antares@e...> wrote:
> > Batman:  looks stupid.  Bats: look really cute... Sort of like mice
>with
> > wings.  Doesn't get much better in the cuteness department.
>
>I thought Michael Keaton made a pretty good batman -- the rest of
>them were lame.
>
>Now, on the bat cute thing: they are furry and they have mouse-like
>ears, but what about their snouts and fangs? I mean have you really
>taken a close look at a live bat (peering down at you from your
>living room drapes, for example). They don't look THAT much like mice.
>
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I have never attended a star party – it sounds very interesting.  Can someone please fill me in on proper etiquette at such an event (use of red lights only, etc)?  Is it acceptable to arrive or leave at night using parking lights or is it generally accepted policy that observers arrive before sunset and leave after sunrise? 

Paul Claessen


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Here is a lengthy piece, but it answers most of the questions you might have.

The main thing is to have fun !!!!


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STAR PARTY ETIQUETTE
by Tom Clark

A shortened version of this article by Tom Clark appeared in Sky and Telescope a few years ago, and in Amateur Astronomy Magazine (#18 pg. 34.) Feel free to make copies if you wish, for distributing to newcomers in your club, or run a copy in your club newsletter. Please mention that it came from Amateur Astronomy Magazine.

Most amateur astronomers live in increasingly light-polluted environments and don't have the opportunity to observe from pristine dark sky locations nearly as much as they would like. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why attending dark-sky events has become so popular in recent years. Where else can you disregard your normal routine, stay up all night, poke your eyes into the far reaches of the Universe, and then sleep till noon, day after day? This is just a small part the magic star parties hold. 

New star parties are popping up all over the country, while the long established events have grown to gigantic proportions. This is good! Having a few days or a week to enjoy our favorite hobby, while sharing the daytime hours with kindred souls is an experience that is hard to match. 

At any star party you will meet all types of people. Many have been mainly armchair observers who are taking their first trip into dark skies. In order to fit in.... and to keep from seeming to be completely unenlightened to the more experienced astronomers, there are a few simple things that you need to learn. Etiquette is not something that we are born knowing - it is something that has to be learned. Here are a few tips that will help you make many new friends at your next Star Party, and to keep everyone from pointing at you and saying, "My God! Who is that Geek?" 

Come prepared! 
No matter what temperature you hear it will be, prepare for weather that is at least 20 degrees colder. Make and use a check list to see that you don't leave home without something you need, such as your eyepiece case, or red flashlight. If you bring a telescope, set up a small tool box containing extra batteries, lights, etc. If you want to make friends, avoid having to always borrow things. Bring a cooler or thermos, and something for a late night snack. Even better, bring along some goodies to share with your friends around you. If you are not familiar with the observing site, arrive early enough so that you don't have to drive in, not knowing where you are going, and disrupt everyone with your headlights.

Lights
No white lights after sundown if there are other observers in the area. Allow yourself to become dark-adapted and see all that you can see. If you are on dangerous terrain and need a bright red light, for heavens sake, keep it pointed straight down! Don't walk around waving it in everyone's face, because if you shine it in the eyes of the wrong person, they may tell you where to stick it. If you have to open your car door or trunk after sundown, be kind enough to remove the fuse beforehand. It only takes a second. If you want to become unpopular quickly, just be the one who is always ruining his companions dark adaption by opening his car doors or trunk every few minutes and splashing bright light all over everyone. If you have to leave the party early in an auto, park where your lights will not bother those who are still observing, and so that you will not have to use your headlights or backup lights when you leave. They are so bright and are painful to those who are fully dark adapted. You can move the shift lever to neutral before starting your engine, and the backup lights won't come on. If a bright light can't be avoided, just yell "LIGHTS IN THREE SECONDS" first, to give everyone time to turn the other way. You will be somewhat appreciated for your thoughtfulness! If your have one of the new cars that have "daytime running lights" that come on as soon as you turn the key on, there IS a way that is easy to turn them off temporarily. Simply lift the emergency brake one click, and now you can turn the key without the lights coming on. After you drive a couple of hundred yards away from the observing group, remember to turn the emergency brake off, so you don't cause undo damage to the brake system. 

Rules?
Read the star party information that is handed out to you when you register. There will be a simple list of rules. FOLLOW THEM!! If they say "No moving of cars after sunset", then don't move your car after sunset. If you are registered in a local motel instead of camping on the grounds, then you must make arrangements before hand to be able leave when you wish. At most star parties this means parking outside the gates, or far enough away so you will be able to leave when you wish, without shining bright lights all over those who are still observing and ruining their night vision. Almost all the problems that pop up come from people who never read the star party literature, or those who believe that the rules only pertain to others. If you would rather not follow the rules... then go observing on your own, where your method of operation will not bother anyone else. 

Star Parties are the perfect place to learn more about observing, more about telescopes, and more about all the other accessories that go with the hobby. If you are considering purchasing a particular model, or building your own telescope, there is no better place to learn all the latest news, or to see the latest designs, and to get first hand advice from other amateurs who have experience with the item you are thinking about. Walking around the observing field during the day will show you almost everything imaginable. With the owners permission, you may be able to try that new item you have been considering, or to see if that new telescope design is as good as it looks on paper. However, remember to be considerate! Don't move in on someone without an invitation. Everyone loves to show off their equipment once in awhile, but they also have their own little group of friends that they are observing with. Unless you are lucky enough to be asked to join them for the entire evening, don't impose. Use common sense and keep your visit to a reasonable length of time. 

Bring your telescope! 
Some amateurs have the idea that they can look through their own telescope any time they wish at home, so when they go to a star party they don't even take their telescope with them, thinking, "I'll spend my time looking through everyone else's telescope." What if everyone on the observing field thought the same thing. Not fair! Unless you are flying to the star party, there is no excuse for not bringing your own telescope - if you have one. Even if you only have a small telescope, it is only fair to every one else to bring it with you, and not just go to look through the largest telescopes. You may have a model that someone else would like to see. Don't expect everyone else to do all the work, so you can be entertained. You should do your share of entertaining too! 

Dobsonians 
Learn how to operate a Dobsonian before you have to embarrass yourself by yelling down from the top of a ladder, "It's moving out of the field!" It's not polite to loose the object being viewed with 25 people standing in line behind you. These large telescopes are so easy to use that you can learn how with just a couple of minutes preparation ahead of time, so don't waste everyone's time by waiting until you are at the eyepiece and then ask what to do. Take the time to learn earlier in the day, as a courtesy to everyone else. 

Big Scopes 
The largest telescopes on the field are not necessarily public property. It is probable that their owners have their own observing programs to carry out. If you would like to look through one, and everyone does, ask first. If possible, ask ahead of time if the scope will be open for public observing during the star party. Find out when, and go during the proper time. 

Piggy 
Don't become an eyepiece hog on someone else's telescope. Of course you should never simply take a two second look at an interesting object, and when you are at your own telescope you should learn to study each object - to train your eye to see all that it can see. But when you are at someone else's telescope, don't get carried away and spending hours hogging their observing time. Keep your visit short, and then move on to the next scope on the field. 

Smokers 
Smokers need to be especially considerate of non-smokers. Since you are outside on the observing field, the smoke itself is not usually a problem. The problem is lighting up. The normally insignificant glow of a lighter or match is a killer to the dark-adapted eyes of your friends. Be careful to turn away, and cup your hands around the flash, so the flare of your match won't ruin anyone's eyes but your own. Also keep in mind that eventually someone will have to pick up every cigarette and cigar butt you throw on the ground, so please use an ashtray, or collect your butts before you leave. 

Music 
Music is a great relaxation to many. To some, it just isn't possible to observe without the proper mood setting musical accompaniment. Many love to scope out the heavens while listening to heavy metal rock at 110 decibels. Others may enjoy an eight hour Elvis session. Great! Enjoy yourself! Turn it up! Play it as loud as you like it.... just wear earphones. The battle of the bands does not belong on the observing field. Many appreciate the new "space music" at a low volume, to set the mood. But if anyone complains...back to the earphones. 

Be Helpful Share your knowledge.
A star party is a place for learning, and a place for teaching. If you see a novice struggling to locate an object in his telescope, ask if you can be of assistance. Chances are he will appreciate it. Every once in a while take a break and walk around the observing field. You will see both some amazing and some comical sights. Enjoy yourself, and help others to enjoy themselves! 

Quiet Mornings 
Loud talking or other noise before noon is out of place, and rude to those observers who don't retire till dawn. On the other hand, loud talking on the observing field at 4 AM is rude to early risers who may be leaving on a day trip at dawn. Perhaps families with small children, and other early risers, could place their camp in an area where they won't be disturbed by astronomers talking all night, or disturb astronomers who are trying to sleep late the next morning. 

Trash 
Trash belongs in the trash can, not around your site. You would be amazed at how many people think nothing of leaving it lay till "tomorrow", but by morning it has blown over to someone else's space. If you finish a drink while visiting someone else's area, don't leave your trash for them to clean up after you. 

Be Nice 
As the end of a week-long star party nears, you will notice that most of the die-hard observers are becoming a little brain-dead. Observing till dawn night after night, followed by too few hours of sleep, has the tendency of sharpening ones tongue a little. Be careful what you say while in this condition. Nothing worse than looking into someone's 48" Mega Monster telescope, and declaring the view to be much worse than it was in your Super Duper 6" last night. That's not how to win friends. Be considerate. Just because you paid a few dollars registration fee does not entitle you to boss everyone around. The people who run he star parties are just volunteers, not paid servants! Volunteer your services if they need help. Running a star party is a lot of work. When you see a crew setting up chairs to convert the mess hall into the lecture hall, jump in and lend a hand ...it will be appreciated. Never touch or move someone's telescope without first asking permission. A telescope that looks unattended may be in the middle of a difficult star hop to some illusive target, and you may have one angry person on your hands if you act before thinking. Star Parties are for fun. Go in a good mood, and stay in one. Things will go wrong, especially with the complicated equipment amateurs use. You will forget something, or you may not be able to set up exactly how you would like to, or park where you would like. Make the best of it; don't get in a sour mood and spoil it for everyone. As always, the age-old advice "Do Unto Others...." is the best advice, and hard to beat. 

Convention or Star Party? 
There are two major types of conventions that fall under the heading of star parties. The first is an astronomy convention, but observing is not the highest priority, as other activities come first. If you are one of the organizers, be honest in telling the people what to expect. Don't advertise a dark sky, when in reality your site is close to town and has a light dome reaching to the zenith. Honesty is always the best policy. At Dark Sky star parties observing is the major attraction, with other activities built around the observing. Before you decide to attend a star party, check it out to make sure that the party you select will fit your needs. An astrophotographer will not be very happy trying to take astrophotos at a convention where people are walking around with white lights, and an armchair astronomer may not be at his best at dark sky star parties where only dim red lights are allowed.
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I have never attended a star party – it sounds very interesting.  Can someone please fill me in on proper etiquette at such an event (use of red lights only, etc)?  Is it acceptable to arrive or leave at night using parking lights or is it generally accepted policy that observers arrive before sunset and leave after sunrise? 

Paul Claessen


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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Polar Bear Star Party 

Date: Friday, January 31, 2003 
Time: 5:00PM CST (GMT-06:00) 

Polar Bear party at IC Stars Ranch in Warrensburg 

 

Paul:

This piece isn't quite a long as the one Scott sent and it doesn't cover
many of the nuts and bolts explanations but it's a lot of fun to read.

A DECALOGUE FOR STAR-GAZERS
by Saul Levy

Thou shalt not shatter the darkness at the observing site. All man-made
lights shalt eschew, except faint red ones. May he who violateth this rule
be simultaneously plagued with coma, mis-alignment, forgotten eyepieces,
diarrhea and mosquitos.

Carefully shalt thou walk, taking pains not to stumble over powerlines,
telescope legs, rattlesnakes and sleeping babies. Thou art at liberty to
break thine own neck, but thou must never jostle a piece of equipment.

Thou shalt not raise a dust cloud with thy clumsy clodhoppers. Neither shalt
thou "burn rubber" nor "lay scratch" with thy hot rod, even though thy best
girl be watching thee.

Toot not thy horn; race not thy motor; express not, with loud talk, thy
tonsils to the night air. Even as the condemned man sayeth "No noose is good
news." so the observer sayeth "Noise annoys."

Long shalt thou think before thou asketh to borrow thou fellow observer's
equipment. Is thy request reasonable? A screwdriver? Perhaps. A telescope?
Preposterous. Wouldst thou ask to borrow the corpse at a wake?

Praise thy fellow observer's equipment. Even when thou findest naught of
merit, thou canst at least laud the color of the paint, and the darkness
will absolve thee from lying. But keep a straight face, for verily a
straight face is the shortest distance between two deceptions.

Thou shalt not disturb anyone who hath his eye glued to a telescope ocular.
His mind may be light years away, exploring cosmic mysteries and un-screwing
the inscrutable. Or he may be "tracking" a photograph. The photograph will
probably turn out badly, but please permit the poor "misguided" photographer
the luxury of spoiling his own picture.

Respond not helter-skelter to Nature's urgings. East is girls and west is
boys and never the twain shall meet. And whensoever a male surpriseth a
female on the same errand, he shall say "I beg your pardon, sir." with
emphasis on the "sir".

Squabble not with thy wife. If she sighteth a flying saucer, belittle not
her judgment, but help her count the little men, lest she seek a more
agreeable companion. Although the plural of mouse is mice, and the plural of
louse is lice, the plural of spouse is not spice; it's bigamy.

Thou shalt clean up the observing site before thou leavest. A sense of civic
duty befits one associated with amateur astronomers, whose proud motto might
well be "We try harder because ours is only the second oldest profession".


Clear skies,

Gary

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Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party

I have never attended a star party – it sounds very interesting.
Can someone please fill me in on proper etiquette at such an event (use of
red lights only, etc)?  Is it acceptable to arrive or leave at night using
parking lights or is it generally accepted policy that observers arrive
before sunset and leave after sunrise?

Paul Claessen


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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
<webmaster@i...> wrote:
> I also have an old, old story 

Back 1,000 years ago, when I was in high school, I used to go down to
Mike Radenich's house on 4th & Ann, in KCK, to set up scopes and
observe the brighter night time objects (that's when I had a baseball
bat scope).
Anyway, he lived right across the street from St John the Baptist
church, that had a belfry noted for bats.
Early in the evening after we set up the scopes, we would sit on the
back porch and talk, waiting for that first object to appear.
Just before sunset, out would come the bats...hundreds of them. 
We would amuse ourselves by pitching pebbles up in the air, and
watching the bats dive bomb what they thought was going to be a meal. 
It was incredible to see how fast and agile those little critters
were. They would swoop, do a 180 and leave within seconds of noting
they weren't getting a meal. Sometimes the newbies would follow the
pebble all the way to the ground and check it out.
I haven't been in that neck of the woods for ages. Maybe one of these
days, I'll take a drive down memory lane, go back, and see if there
are still any around.
Maybe a pebble will be in order......


Rob Robinson

Jim Duncan's wife reserved Powell for a birthday party for Jim tomorrow night. It's not a surprise. I plan to open up for them around 6:30.

If you would care to help, give me a call.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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I'm doing a science night at Brookwood school Thursday night. I'll be running the StarLab so they won't have any telescope people. David Neuenschwander is doing one at Sante Fe Trail School tomorrow night as well.

If anyone care to join either of us, please give me a call. 


David Young
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Remember during the awards presentations I was talking about how large 
Mars will appear in August compared to what Saturn looks like now?

Check out the pic in the "files" section called "planets".

Mars should be awesome!  Too bad it will be so low in altitude :-(

Have to keep a watch out for those "once in a year" steady seeing 
nights.

-Scott

Mars Opposition:   Rather than waiting around for that great seeing, how 
about hopping in the car and taking a family vacation down to the 
gulf-coast.  Look what Latitude does to the Altitude of Mars!  I remember 
many people fleeing to other spots in the US to see Leonids.....

Aug 24 Mars Altitude:

KC, KS:  35 degrees

Tuscon Arizona:  38 degrees

Corpus Christi, Texas: 46 degrees

Miami, Florida:  48 degrees

Southern Skies Star Party patio:  87 degrees

Guess where Vic and Jen will be?

www.sssp.org

jen


At 05:39 AM 1/30/03 +0000, you wrote:
>Remember during the awards presentations I was talking about how large
>Mars will appear in August compared to what Saturn looks like now?
>
>Check out the pic in the "files" section called "planets".
>
>Mars should be awesome!  Too bad it will be so low in altitude :-(
>
>Have to keep a watch out for those "once in a year" steady seeing
>nights.
>
>-Scott
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ISS  (a poor pass for the ISS)
Friday night = out of the WNW at 18:31:47, crossing over the NNW at 17 degrees altitude at 18:33:59, and setting in the NNE at 18:36:11 (mag. 1.7)

Hubble Space Telescope (2 excellent passes of the HST)
Saturday monring = out of the SSW at 05:50:04, crossing over the SSE at 16 degrees altitude at 05:52:45, and setting in the SE at 05:55:28 (mag. 4.1)
Sunday morning = out of the SSW at 05:51:00, crossing over the S at 18 degrees altitude at 05:53:40, and setting in the SE at 05:56:41 (mag. 3.8)

Space Shuttle Columbia STS-107 is scheduled to land February 1, 8:16am CST.  If landing is postponed and shuttle remains in current orbit.......
Saturday morning = out of the W at 06:24:28, crossing over the SSE at 85 degrees (overhead!!!) altitude at 06:25:45, and setting in the E at 06:28:05 (mag. -1.9)

Iridium Flares ("cockroaches of the night")
Iridium 18 will flare to magnitude -7 at 19:12:54 Friday night.  Position is 44 degrees altitude and 29 degrees azimuth (NNE)
Iridium 15 will flare to magnitude -2 at 06:40:09 Saturday morning.  Position is 25 degrees altitude and 151 degrees azimuth (SSE)
Iridium 39 will flare to magnitude -1 at 19:06:55 Saturday night.  Position is 45 degrees altitude and 30 degrees azimuth (NNE)
Iridium 41 will flare to magnitude -2 at 06:34:29 Sunday morning.  Position is 24 degrees altitude and 151 degrees azimuth (SSE)


All of these passes can be used towards the Earth Orbiting Satillite Observers Club sponsored by the Astronomical League.  Since all of these satellites' elements should be no older than a day or 2 old, they should be accurate to within a second or 2.

what is the name of the Thai restaurant? I love thai too and cook it and have several thai cookbooks. Bankok Pavilion has an awesome lunch buffet. Thai 2000 on 63rd street west has a fantastic buffet with many noodle soups on sundays.
Dr.Eric


> Message: 1
>   Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:58:55 -0600
>   From: "Shelley Granger" <grangerk@...>
> Subject: RE: Re: Polar Bear Star Party
> 
> You have a Thai restaurant!!! I love that food. Have you tried it? Is it
> good? I'm not doing polar bear stuff this winter but when it warms up a bit
> that will be first on my agenda.
> Shelley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic & Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
> [mailto:webmaster@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 6:12 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Polar Bear Star Party
> 
> 
> There are a few spots suitable for drinking the water...
> 
> 1:  Perry Fosters - Smokehouse BBQ joint.  (not a restaurant, a joint) They
> did our catering in Sept.
> Awesome Ribs, but don't expect a tablecloth.
> 2:  Applebees - No description needed
> 3:  Country Kitchen - homestyle sit-down, Open 24 hours
> 
> There are regular fast-foods and a few other sit-downs.  One italian, one
> Tai, some mediocre Chinese buffets...
> I understand there are some drinking establishments, but we 
> don't know
> where any of those are.
> 
> jen

I am working on the Sante Fe trail tonight .Then I am to present at stormchaser conference in Denver this weekend.
Dr.Eric

> Message: 10
>   Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:30:30 -0600
>   From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> Subject: Science nights
> 
> I'm doing a science night at Brookwood school Thursday night. I'll be running the StarLab so they won't have any telescope people. David Neuenschwander is doing one at Sante Fe 
> Trail School tomorrow night as well.
> 
> If anyone care to join either of us, please give me a call. 
> 
> 
> David Young
> dyoung8@...

Thanks Eric. I'm sure the two of you will make a lot of little people happy.

I'm off to Brookwood.

David Young
dyoung8@...
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:04 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] sante fe


  I am working on the Sante Fe trail tonight .Then I am to present at stormchaser conference in Denver this weekend.
  Dr.Eric

  > Message: 10
  >   Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:30:30 -0600
  >   From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
  > Subject: Science nights
  > 
  > I'm doing a science night at Brookwood school Thursday night. I'll be running the StarLab so they won't have any telescope people. David Neuenschwander is doing one at Sante Fe 
  > Trail School tomorrow night as well.
  > 
  > If anyone care to join either of us, please give me a call. 
  > 
  > 
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...

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I have excerpted the Astronomy related items from this Cornell News Release

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

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Astrophysicist Robert Brown, leader in telescope development, named 
to head NAIC and its main facility, Arecibo Observatory

CA, N.Y. -- A noted astrophysicist and observatory administrator, 
widely experienced in international collaboration, has been chosen to 
direct the National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center (NAIC), whose 
main facility is the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, the world's 
largest, and most sensitive, single-dish radio telescope. He is 
Robert L. Brown, currently deputy director of the National Radio 
Astronomy Observatory (NRAO), headquartered in Charlottesville, Va. 
NAIC, managed by Cornell University under a cooperative agreement 
with the National Science Foundation (NSF), was created as a national 
center for radio science in 1971. The 1,000-foot-diameter (305 
meters) Arecibo telescope was completed in 1963 at the initiative of 
Cornell electrical engineering professor William E. Gordon. NAIC and 
Arecibo provide access to state-of-the-art observing for scientists 
in radio astronomy, solar system radar and atmospheric studies, and 
the observatory has the unique capability for solar system and 
ionosphere (the atmosphere's ionized upper layers) radar remote 
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The weather forecast is not what one would hope, but "partly cloudy" 
beats a blizzard so what the heck!  :-)

My standard response to "the weather doesn't look promising" has 
become "If we don't go, we certainly won't do any observing. And if 
we do go, we might be pleasantly surprised."

I'll see all you ASKC polar bears at the ICStars Ranch this afternoon.

Fiske

PS: Expect the bats will probably be hybernating.

That's my prediction. If I'm right all of you owe me a beer at the 
Thai restaurant! Dan Johnson

What do you do if it's wrong?  I know..... Oreo's for ALL!!!!!
 
Jackie

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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:47 PM
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Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear- Transparent Skies!


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Ed,

    Thanks for your support of our fine newsletter.  I am very happy to
report to you
that the proposal to do away with the printed version lost by a margin of
over 2.5
to 1.  I believe that all "thinking" people (members & non members alike)
realize
what a valuable part of the ASKC's overall image the Cosmic Messenger is.
You will continue to get this fine publication, thanks to our members vote
of
confidence.

Ron Abbott
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> In a message dated 1/24/03 8:20:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> dwharshaw@... writes:
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> > I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
> > printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if
the
> > members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?
>
> Since I live in Dallas, and am an out of town member, I will not be able
to
> attend the meeting. However, I would like to put in my own two cents worth
on
> this subject. So, is there any way someone can submit a ballot for me? I
> would like to vote NO
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Its clear (9:15 pm friday night) at the Ranch and we have a lot of happy 
"Polar Bears" !

Vic


At 01:11 PM 1/31/03 -0800, you wrote:
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>
>Jackie
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>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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>That's my prediction. If I'm right all of you owe me a beer at the
>Thai restaurant! Dan Johnson
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Ron,
I am beyond offended at your comments.
You just insulted half the board of directors, past board of director 
members, past presidents and members in general.

So now are we reduced to calling people with a different opinion a bunch of 
blear-witted, blockheaded, blockish, chuckleheaded, dense, doltish, dull, 
dumb, duncical, fatheaded, goosey, hammerheaded, numskulled, pinhead, 
pinheaded, thick, thickheaded, thick-witted, morons, simpleton, asinine, 
fatuous, foolish, silly, simple, brute, brutish, dummel, lumbering, oafish, 
slow, slow-witted, sluggish,half-assed, crass; backward, half-witted, 
retarded; idiotic, imbecilic, dullard, dullhead, dumbbell, dummkopf, dummy, 
ignoramus, moron, simpleton and stupid ?????

What was I thinking?
Maybe if I go out and stand next to Fiske and observe here at the Ranch and 
the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party I will be able to think "correctly" tomorrow.
Just my non-thinking opinion.


Your NON-THINKING
Past ASKC President,
National Astronomical League Reflector Editor,
NASA /JLP Solar System Ambassador,
StarGarden Foundation President,
ICSTARS Astronomy & AstronomicalTours Business owner,
and other obvious ventures that require non-thinking activities...

Vic Winter




At 07:42 PM 1/31/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Ed,
>
>     Thanks for your support of our fine newsletter.  I am very happy to
>report to you
>that the proposal to do away with the printed version lost by a margin of
>over 2.5
>to 1.  I believe that all "thinking" people (members & non members alike)
>realize
>what a valuable part of the ASKC's overall image the Cosmic Messenger is.
>You will continue to get this fine publication, thanks to our members vote
>of
>confidence.
>
>Ron Abbott
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <eflaspo@...>
>To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion
>
>
> > In a message dated 1/24/03 8:20:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> > dwharshaw@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the wording "a
> > > printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto decision?  What if
>the
> > > members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?
> >
> > Since I live in Dallas, and am an out of town member, I will not be able
>to
> > attend the meeting. However, I would like to put in my own two cents worth
>on
> > this subject. So, is there any way someone can submit a ballot for me? I
> > would like to vote NO
> >
> > Ed Flaspoehler
> >
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We had a nice night at Powell as well for a birthday party. I It started off cloudy but cleared nicely by 8:00 for some spectacular views of Saturn. David Hudgins spotted a shadow transit of IO later in the evening. The crowd left and Richard Fredrick put the camera in about the time we noticed in the RCO Handbook that there was a second transit just starting.

Anyone else see it?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vic Winter 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Polar Bear- Transparent Skies!


  Its clear (9:15 pm friday night) at the Ranch and we have a lot of happy 
  "Polar Bears" !

  Vic


  At 01:11 PM 1/31/03 -0800, you wrote:
  >What do you do if it's wrong?  I know..... Oreo's for ALL!!!!!
  >
  >Jackie
  >
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  >From: gdj561956 <gdj102356@...> [mailto:gdj102356@...]
  >Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:47 PM
  >To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: [ASKC] Polar Bear- Transparent Skies!
  >
  >
  >That's my prediction. If I'm right all of you owe me a beer at the
  >Thai restaurant! Dan Johnson
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  Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
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In case you aren't listening to the news, Columbia has exploded over Texas.

Jackie

Yes,
How terrible.  I've got CNN on right now!

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Beucher" <m31@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 08:44
Subject: [ASKC] Space Shuttle Columbia has exploded


> In case you aren't listening to the news, Columbia has exploded over
Texas.
>
> Jackie
>
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I know this isn�t a �For Sale� bulletin board but we have some folks who are
serious about photography although not so many who still use film. I have
the following item for sale and thought someone here might be interested
before I go to a camera show with it.

Dry Mounting and Laminating Press, Standard 120 by Seal Inc. 15.5X18.5 inch
press area. Includes a Sealector Tacking Iron, all for $150.


Clear skies,

Gary Pittman
Gary_rp@...

If you haven't heard, the Space Shuttle  Colombia blew up on re-entry a little after 8:00 this morning . Witnesses said they heard a loud bang and then a rumble. There were videos on the news that showed the Shuttle breaking up. IT looked similar to the way comet Shoemaker Leavy looked when it crashed into Jupiter. All are presumed lost.

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Gentlemen: I have a much better idea than worrying about how many 
different epithets we can generate for those of a different view 
point: how about getting rid of the restriction in bye-law Three 4.0 
et seq regarding absentee ballots that prevents the likes of Ed 
Flashpoehler registering his views in a vote that affects the club of 
which he is a member.

I _KNOW_ that it requires quite a process to affect a change in a 
club bye-law, and I am equally aware that a mild downside to such a 
startling concept as democracy might be that sometimes people might 
not thereby be encouraged to attend every general meeting. However, 
unless any of our members are more equal than others, it is beyond me 
why we should deny those of our members who travel or, like Ed, live 
a long way away the opportunity to have their voices heard.

If necessary, and dependent on my travel schedule, I'd be prepared to 
make a proposal under Article Eleven 1.2 should any other member of 
the club feel that giving members who are unable to attend a general 
meeting the opportunity to vote is a good and democratic idea (since 
two signatures are required).

Rob Esson

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Vic Winter <vwinter@i...> wrote:
> Ron,
> I am beyond offended at your comments.
> You just insulted half the board of directors, past board of 
director 
> members, past presidents and members in general.
> 
> So now are we reduced to calling people with a different opinion a 
bunch of 
> blear-witted, blockheaded, blockish, chuckleheaded, dense, doltish, 
dull, 
> dumb, duncical, fatheaded, goosey, hammerheaded, numskulled, 
pinhead, 
> pinheaded, thick, thickheaded, thick-witted, morons, simpleton, 
asinine, 
> fatuous, foolish, silly, simple, brute, brutish, dummel, lumbering, 
oafish, 
> slow, slow-witted, sluggish,half-assed, crass; backward, half-
witted, 
> retarded; idiotic, imbecilic, dullard, dullhead, dumbbell, 
dummkopf, dummy, 
> ignoramus, moron, simpleton and stupid ?????
> 
> What was I thinking?
> Maybe if I go out and stand next to Fiske and observe here at the 
Ranch and 
> the ASKC Polar Bear Star Party I will be able to think "correctly" 
tomorrow.
> Just my non-thinking opinion.
> 
> 
> Your NON-THINKING
> Past ASKC President,
> National Astronomical League Reflector Editor,
> NASA /JLP Solar System Ambassador,
> StarGarden Foundation President,
> ICSTARS Astronomy & AstronomicalTours Business owner,
> and other obvious ventures that require non-thinking activities...
> 
> Vic Winter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:42 PM 1/31/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >Ed,
> >
> >     Thanks for your support of our fine newsletter.  I am very 
happy to
> >report to you
> >that the proposal to do away with the printed version lost by a 
margin of
> >over 2.5
> >to 1.  I believe that all "thinking" people (members & non members 
alike)
> >realize
> >what a valuable part of the ASKC's overall image the Cosmic 
Messenger is.
> >You will continue to get this fine publication, thanks to our 
members vote
> >of
> >confidence.
> >
> >Ron Abbott
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <eflaspo@a...>
> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 1/24/03 8:20:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > dwharshaw@k... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was not at the board meeting whe this came up, but does the 
wording "a
> > > > printed, but smaller version" presuppose a de facto 
decision?  What if
> >the
> > > > members want to keep the CM in its present size and format?
> > >
> > > Since I live in Dallas, and am an out of town member, I will 
not be able
> >to
> > > attend the meeting. However, I would like to put in my own two 
cents worth
> >on
> > > this subject. So, is there any way someone can submit a ballot 
for me? I
> > > would like to vote NO
> > >
> > > Ed Flaspoehler
> > >
> > >
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> Vic Winter
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> Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
> http://www.icstars.com/ourspaciousskies/oss.html
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> Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
> (660) 747- 9458
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> 
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I too fail to see why absentee ballots are not allowed for ANY vote. I would be most pleased if someone would enlighten me. I'm sure there was some problem in the past that this was supposed to prevent but I'd like to know what that problem was.

Perhaps it is time for this to be changed.

David Young
dyoung8@...


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The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws committee.

Carroll Iorg
    Chairman, Bylaws committee

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 18:24
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


> I too fail to see why absentee ballots are not allowed for ANY vote. I
would be most pleased if someone would enlighten me. I'm sure there was some
problem in the past that this was supposed to prevent but I'd like to know
what that problem was.
>
> Perhaps it is time for this to be changed.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there to start with?
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carroll Iorg 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


  The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
  change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws committee.

  Carroll Iorg
      Chairman, Bylaws committee


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In a message dated 2/1/03 3:32:04 PM Central Standard Time, RESSON@... 
writes:


> However, 
> unless any of our members are more equal than others, it is beyond me 
> why we should deny those of our members who travel or, like Ed, live 
> a long way away the opportunity to have their voices heard.
> 

Looks like I have stirred up a tempest in a teapot. I appreciate the concern. 
I am sure this will all work out fairly.

Ed


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I'm not sure of the original reason-perhaps there was concern that it would
cut into attendance at general meetings where
bylaws were being voted on if absentee ballots were allowed.  That language
has been in the bylaws for years.

Carroll Iorg

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 18:51
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


> Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there to
start with?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Carroll Iorg
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
>
>   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
>   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
committee.
>
>   Carroll Iorg
>       Chairman, Bylaws committee
>
>
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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Carroll Iorg" <Carroll-Iorg@k...> wrote:
> I'm not sure of the original reason-perhaps there was concern that
it would
> cut into attendance at general meetings where
> bylaws were being voted on if absentee ballots were allowed.  That
language
> has been in the bylaws for years.

Perhaps any reason would have been that there was no guarantee that an
absentee ballot it was really from the person submitting the ballot
(hence ballot stuffing in particular favor of a vote). How would you
verify the absentee ballot was really from the person submitting the
ballot?
There would have to be certainties involved........

Just my 2 cents worth...

Rob 

Attention ASKC Polar Bears,

I'd like to take a quick moment to thank the folks who made it out for the 
ASKC Polar Bear Star Party at the ICSTARS Ranch.

I also wanted to submit my personal apology that I wasn't available to say 
hello and personally chat with all you guys.  I felt really rotten having 
to hide in my little room, chained to my machine.  I'm really sorry I 
missed the chance to show folks around, and make sure everyone felt 
welcome. I have just a few seconds before we dash to the airport, so I 
figured the least I could do is wave to all you folks who made for a really 
neat event.

We had a few moments of good sky.   I hear Tim Krystal captured 7 
Herschels.  We have one last straggler out packing up at 2:30 on Sunday 
morning.

Thanks to everyone who made it.  Remember to come back whenever you feel 
like it.  You're always welcome with or without a polar bear party.

Clear Skies,

Jen Winter (and Vic too)


Yours,
Vic & Jen Winter - Owners

JPL / NASA Solar System Ambassador
ICSTARS Astronomy - www.ICSTARS.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
Southern Skies Star Party - www.SSSP.org
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
Astronomical League Reflector Editors - www.Astroleague.org
660-747-9458

Well, we allow absentee ballots for the election of officers, so how would
voting on anything else be any different as pertains to verification?

Gina

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:04 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: motion


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Carroll Iorg" <Carroll-Iorg@k...> wrote:
  > I'm not sure of the original reason-perhaps there was concern that
  it would
  > cut into attendance at general meetings where
  > bylaws were being voted on if absentee ballots were allowed.  That
  language
  > has been in the bylaws for years.

  Perhaps any reason would have been that there was no guarantee that an
  absentee ballot it was really from the person submitting the ballot
  (hence ballot stuffing in particular favor of a vote). How would you
  verify the absentee ballot was really from the person submitting the
  ballot?
  There would have to be certainties involved........

  Just my 2 cents worth...

  Rob


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Not to belittle the business of our club, but if large corporations allow
stockholders' proxy votes, and some governments allow their citizens to vote
on law changes or elections via mail, we can certainly manage to do the same
with our members.  All sort of important business is transacted this way:
your signature is the key to a proxy vote.

Needless to say, it could be a false signature, but even banks honor checks
on the basis of the signature (no, they don't check every check to see if it
matches the one on file).  Fraud is always possible, but we have to balance
the possibility of tampering, false impersonations etc. with the great
benefits of proxy voting.  I believe the scale would tip in favor of proxy
votes.

Gina





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I intend to submit a proposed change to the by-laws to allow absentee ballots for proposals submitted to the general membership. I am seeking a second person to sign the proposed change. I will post the proposed change here later today.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carroll Iorg 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


  The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
  change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws committee.

  Carroll Iorg
      Chairman, Bylaws committee



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I agree with you Gina - and would also say that if the election of 
the President of the United States can be done including absentee 
ballots, the ASKC surely ought to be able to do so.

However, it occurs to me that we might address 'tother Rob's concern 
by the way of absentee balloting - if there is concern about the 
possibility of fraud/stuffing etc.  So, I have a suggestion [after 
all, lots of amateur astronomers are dishonest etc. etc. <- hold on, 
er..., NOT! We probably have a hobby that is weighted somewhat 
towards intelligent, upstanding members of the community, at least 
that's what I tell my wife when she worries about the safety of our 
daughters when I take them to star parties]

Anyway the suggestion would be that only ballots mailed in on ballot 
papers enclosed with the Cosmic Messenger would be valid. At least 
that way you'd know that it had gone originally to the address of a 
member. As to whether the signature was the correct person at that 
address, well, if we get that worried, we've probably got other 
problems. Frankly, I'm not convinced myself that this would actually 
be necessary, but if it would increase support for the concept and 
allay concerns, it wouldn't be a lot of skin off my nose to add that 
to the suggested change. Anyone got any thoughts on that?

Rob Esson

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Gina Fedon" <antares@e...> wrote:
> Not to belittle the business of our club, but if large corporations 
allow
> stockholders' proxy votes, and some governments allow their 
citizens to vote
> on law changes or elections via mail, we can certainly manage to do 
the same
> with our members.  All sort of important business is transacted 
this way:
> your signature is the key to a proxy vote.
> 
> Needless to say, it could be a false signature, but even banks 
honor checks
> on the basis of the signature (no, they don't check every check to 
see if it
> matches the one on file).  Fraud is always possible, but we have to 
balance
> the possibility of tampering, false impersonations etc. with the 
great
> benefits of proxy voting.  I believe the scale would tip in favor 
of proxy
> votes.
> 
> Gina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

David - as I seem to have started this for my sins<!>, I'd be happy 
to join with you in such a change.
Rob Esson  

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I intend to submit a proposed change to the by-laws to allow 
absentee ballots for proposals submitted to the general membership. I 
am seeking a second person to sign the proposed change. I will post 
the proposed change here later today.
> 
> David Young
> dyoung8@k...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Carroll Iorg 
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
> 
> 
>   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal 
for the
>   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws 
committee.
> 
>   Carroll Iorg
>       Chairman, Bylaws committee
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Just typing out loud here. 
We currently check all ballots against a membership list so any multiple votes would be caught.
How about publishing a list of absentee ballots submitted in the CM along with the election results? Comments from all about this idea are solicited. This would go far towards preventing stuffing since a person could easily check to see if his ballot was received or see if there was a ballot submitted in their name when they didn't submit one.



David Young
dyoung8@...


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This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of the
bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a guess on
why or when it was put in place.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion

Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there to
start with?
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Carroll Iorg
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


  The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
  change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
committee.

  Carroll Iorg
      Chairman, Bylaws committee


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Absentee ballot issue
Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you were
at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.

That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.

Why?
OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
We put a ballot in the newsletter.
At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
voted on at the meeting.
What then happens to the absentee ballots? They are not valid, as the issue
was not the same. Those members did not have a chance at voting on the final
proposal. A person who voted yes to $50 might have voted no to $500. So, you
can not count any of the absentee votes, pro or con.
The right of the assembly to modify motions brought before it is a basic
part of Robert's rules.
We have provisions for a time to modify motions for bylaws  and for
elections  (when nominations are made in May). These are all two-step
processes, so the motion (bylaw change or election) on the newsletter ballot
is the same one being voted on by all members - those there and the
absentee.
So, that is the potential problem - the absentee ballots may become void by
a change in the motion. That in turn deprives absentee members of the right
to vote on that particular proposal.
Doing away with the right of the group to amend a motion maybe can be done
under some sort of procedural thing, but I think that if 2/3 of the people
at the meeting want to amend it, it can be done. I have not researched that.

The other thing to note is the difference between proxy and absentee
ballots. There is a big difference. If you hold some ones proxy, you get
that persons vote for whatever. I think proxies are a lot more prone to
manipulation than a straight-forward absentee ballot in a signed envelope.
Kathy Machin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Pittman" <gary_rp@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: motion


> This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of the
> bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a guess on
> why or when it was put in place.
>
> Clear skies,
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
> Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
> behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there
to
> start with?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Carroll Iorg
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
>
>   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
>   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
> committee.
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Thank You for reminding us about Robert's Rules of Order.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kathy [mailto:kmachin@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:13 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Abesentee ballots


  Absentee ballot issue
  Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you
were
  at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.

  That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.

  Why?
  OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
  memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
  We put a ballot in the newsletter.
  At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
  donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
  voted on at the meeting.
  What then happens to the absentee ballots? They are not valid, as the
issue
  was not the same. Those members did not have a chance at voting on the
final
  proposal. A person who voted yes to $50 might have voted no to $500. So,
you
  can not count any of the absentee votes, pro or con.
  The right of the assembly to modify motions brought before it is a basic
  part of Robert's rules.
  We have provisions for a time to modify motions for bylaws  and for
  elections  (when nominations are made in May). These are all two-step
  processes, so the motion (bylaw change or election) on the newsletter
ballot
  is the same one being voted on by all members - those there and the
  absentee.
  So, that is the potential problem - the absentee ballots may become void
by
  a change in the motion. That in turn deprives absentee members of the
right
  to vote on that particular proposal.
  Doing away with the right of the group to amend a motion maybe can be done
  under some sort of procedural thing, but I think that if 2/3 of the people
  at the meeting want to amend it, it can be done. I have not researched
that.

  The other thing to note is the difference between proxy and absentee
  ballots. There is a big difference. If you hold some ones proxy, you get
  that persons vote for whatever. I think proxies are a lot more prone to
  manipulation than a straight-forward absentee ballot in a signed envelope.
  Kathy Machin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Gary Pittman" <gary_rp@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: motion


  > This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of
the
  > bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a guess
on
  > why or when it was put in place.
  >
  > Clear skies,
  >
  > Gary
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
  > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
  >
  > Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
  > behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there
  to
  > start with?
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Carroll Iorg
  >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
  >
  >
  >   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for
the
  >   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
  > committee.
  >
  >   Carroll Iorg
  >       Chairman, Bylaws committee
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In a message dated 2/2/03 2:13:54 PM Central Standard Time, kmachin@... 
writes:


> Absentee ballot issue
> Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you were
> at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.
> 
> That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.

Kathy:

I agree with your analysis and thanks for quoting Roberts Rules of Order. You 
are, as usual, very wise.

Ed Flaspoehler, Dallas, TX


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Robert's applies only where the By-Laws do not provide otherwise. Perhaps we should ask the members at the next general meeting?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kathy 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:13 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Abesentee ballots


  Absentee ballot issue
  Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you were
  at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.

  That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.

  Why?
  OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
  memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
  We put a ballot in the newsletter.
  At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
  donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
  voted on at the meeting.
  What then happens to the absentee ballots? They are not valid, as the issue
  was not the same. Those members did not have a chance at voting on the final
  proposal. A person who voted yes to $50 might have voted no to $500. So, you
  can not count any of the absentee votes, pro or con.
  The right of the assembly to modify motions brought before it is a basic
  part of Robert's rules.
  We have provisions for a time to modify motions for bylaws  and for
  elections  (when nominations are made in May). These are all two-step
  processes, so the motion (bylaw change or election) on the newsletter ballot
  is the same one being voted on by all members - those there and the
  absentee.
  So, that is the potential problem - the absentee ballots may become void by
  a change in the motion. That in turn deprives absentee members of the right
  to vote on that particular proposal.
  Doing away with the right of the group to amend a motion maybe can be done
  under some sort of procedural thing, but I think that if 2/3 of the people
  at the meeting want to amend it, it can be done. I have not researched that.

  The other thing to note is the difference between proxy and absentee
  ballots. There is a big difference. If you hold some ones proxy, you get
  that persons vote for whatever. I think proxies are a lot more prone to
  manipulation than a straight-forward absentee ballot in a signed envelope.
  Kathy Machin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Gary Pittman" <gary_rp@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: motion


  > This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of the
  > bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a guess on
  > why or when it was put in place.
  >
  > Clear skies,
  >
  > Gary
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
  > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
  >
  > Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
  > behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there
  to
  > start with?
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Carroll Iorg
  >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
  >
  >
  >   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
  >   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
  > committee.
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There we go. I knew someone with a business like mind could figure out why
the bylaws were set up that way. Thanks Kathy.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kmachin@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Abesentee ballots

Absentee ballot issue
Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you were
at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.

That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.

Why?
OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
We put a ballot in the newsletter.
At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
voted on at the meeting.
What then happens to the absentee ballots? They are not valid, as the issue
was not the same. Those members did not have a chance at voting on the final
proposal. A person who voted yes to $50 might have voted no to $500. So, you
can not count any of the absentee votes, pro or con.
The right of the assembly to modify motions brought before it is a basic
part of Robert's rules.
We have provisions for a time to modify motions for bylaws  and for
elections  (when nominations are made in May). These are all two-step
processes, so the motion (bylaw change or election) on the newsletter ballot
is the same one being voted on by all members - those there and the
absentee.
So, that is the potential problem - the absentee ballots may become void by
a change in the motion. That in turn deprives absentee members of the right
to vote on that particular proposal.
Doing away with the right of the group to amend a motion maybe can be done
under some sort of procedural thing, but I think that if 2/3 of the people
at the meeting want to amend it, it can be done. I have not researched that.

The other thing to note is the difference between proxy and absentee
ballots. There is a big difference. If you hold some ones proxy, you get
that persons vote for whatever. I think proxies are a lot more prone to
manipulation than a straight-forward absentee ballot in a signed envelope.
Kathy Machin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Pittman" <gary_rp@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: motion


> This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of the
> bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a guess on
> why or when it was put in place.
>
> Clear skies,
>
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
> Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the reasoning
> behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in there
to
> start with?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Carroll Iorg
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
>
>   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for the
>   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
> committee.
>
>   Carroll Iorg
>       Chairman, Bylaws committee
>
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Hey gang. I was browsing my latest Sky & Tel and notice that at page 66 the
publication inverts pages 51-66 and then re-inverts starting with page
83-150. In other words, pages 67-82 are missing and pages 51-66 are
duplicated in an upside down fashion. Is mine the only issue like this or
have others received the same error in their March issue?

Clear skies,

Gary



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  Why?
  OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
  memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
  We put a ballot in the newsletter.
  At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
  donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
  voted on at the meeting.
  What then happens to the absentee ballots? 


  This could be addressed in an ammendment by not allowing changes on the day of the vote. Changes would be allowed during the discussion the preceeding month but not once the ballots had been finalized at the end of that meeting. Everyone would have a chance to debate any issue and then could vote in person or by absentee ballot. The real question is does the membership want to allow absentee ballots. Many have expressed a desire for them to be allowed for all issues. 

  I still do not like the idea of proxy voting and will oppose it strongly.


  David Young
  dyoung8@...


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I want to thank Vic and Jen for the great hospitality at the Polar Bear.  
This type of event is what make our club fun.  ASKC had a lot of people out 
observing.   There is just a lot of fun in going around to see what different 
people are looking at (or in Gary P's case, commiserating about why his 2nd 
new scope still cannot find the GPS satellites).  Bill Boyle got some great 
Saturn and Jupiter pictures.

It was also nice to meet new member Mike Sterling.  He lives in Gladstone, a 
block or two from Eddie Biancina (another new member), but they don't know 
each other.  We are getting quite a Northland contingent!  

I don't get to spend enough time observing with old pros like Kathy and Gil.  
 I always seem to learn something from them.   

Quit fighting and think about positive stuff!  

Tim Kristl


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While I was not here for when the absentee ballot restriction was put in, I 
would guess the reason was something like the following:   

       1.   Those who go to the Board meetings and General meetings are 
usually the most knowledgable of the issues.   Many people who seldom come to 
meetings(obviously this doesn't apply to everyone) know less about what is 
going on with the club.  Shouldn't the club be run, managed, operated, etc, 
by those who are more involved?
       2.    There is just more trouble and expense sending out, tracking and 
counting absentee ballots.   For most issues, it wouldn't change the vote 
anyway.  
       3.   Maybe it will get more people to come to the General meeting.   I 
know of a couple of attendees who came just for the vote.   That is not all 
bad.

Do not assume that this discourse means that I am opposed to David Young's 
amendment.   Just that both sides of the issue need discussion.  Good 
discussion is good for the club.  Passionate debate is good.   But we need to 
respect out colleagues and their right to express opinions, even if we 
disagree.   Just disagree while respecting the person and their right to have 
a different opinion.  
Tim Kristl         


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>Guys... the news media is looking for shuttle related kansas city 
>stories... i have been on the phone all afternoon.
They think that because I am a NASA Solar System Ambassador (how they know 
i have no idea... the "official" press release has yet to be released!) 
that I have all the NASA connections.

They say the sister of astronaut Laural Clark lives in Kansas City. Does 
anybody know who she is or how to contact her?

Does anyone know any shuttle related people living in the kc area? I know 
tons of NASA people...but none are here in this area.

Any help would be appreciated. Good PR for the askc if we can help.
Call me if you have something that could help.
660-747-9458
913-709-5805

thanks,

vic




Vic Winter
ICSTARS Astronomy http://www.icstars.com
Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
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Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
(660) 747- 9458

Tim, Kathy, and David:

You all bring up some good points.  The club is generally managed by people
who are very much involved, the elected board.  However, there are sometimes
issues that the board feels should be voted on by the whole membership.
Unfortunately, many members cannot attend meetings:  it's not that they
don't care, but they often have to travel for work, or maybe they are too
old to drive...  Others live out of town or may have family/work obligations
that prevent them from coming to a meeting.

You see, I am very grateful to my county for recently allowing citizens
residing abroad to vote on any issue or election via mail.  I care very much
for my country and its political life--after all I'm still a citizen after
12 years abroad and read its news daily--but until now I had no way to vote.
Sometimes life commitments just prevent you from being there in person to
vote, but you still CARE.  The ability to be part of the decision process of
the body to which you belong--be it a country or the ASKC-is the mark of a
true democratic system.

And we need not always worry about the knowledge of the general membership
when it comes to issues that the board decides to bring forth for general
vote:  case in point, whether the newsletter should be a paper or e-version.
I think every single member would be able to tell us whether he/she would
rather have one over the other.

About the proxy idea:  yes, I agree, proxies are not good, unless you know
for sure that the person you are giving your proxy will vote the way you
would.  Signed mail ballots are the way to go.

And if we ever allowed mail ballots we definitely could NOT allow a motion
to be changed after the ballots went out.  Yes, we'd have to change the
by-laws to put a deadline to the motion amendments.  But, really, that's not
such an otherwordly idea:  when you vote for an issue in your city or state
or country they don't change the choices the day you go to the polls, do
they?  Imagine if you went to vote for a presidential candidate or city
bond, and when you get there they inform you that the whole thing has
changed!

Well, ok, I'll quit now.  :-)  But this issue has been on my mind for a
while and I was going to bring it up anyway...

Gina


 -----Original Message-----
From: TKristl100@... [mailto:TKristl100@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:35 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] motion


     Shouldn't the club be run, managed, operated, etc,
by those who are more involved?

Vic, I'm sorry, I can't help you on any of this but if I did know Laural
Clark's sister is I would not give her name to the media. Specially at a
time like this.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Winter [mailto:vwinter@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] shuttle help


>Guys... the news media is looking for shuttle related kansas city
>stories... i have been on the phone all afternoon.
They think that because I am a NASA Solar System Ambassador (how they know
i have no idea... the "official" press release has yet to be released!)
that I have all the NASA connections.

They say the sister of astronaut Laural Clark lives in Kansas City. Does
anybody know who she is or how to contact her?

Does anyone know any shuttle related people living in the kc area? I know
tons of NASA people...but none are here in this area.

Any help would be appreciated. Good PR for the askc if we can help.
Call me if you have something that could help.
660-747-9458
913-709-5805

thanks,

vic




Vic Winter
ICSTARS Astronomy http://www.icstars.com
Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies -
http://www.icstars.com/ourspaciousskies/oss.html
StarGarden Foundation - http://www.StarGardenFoundation.org
Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
(660) 747- 9458








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David,
You are absolutely right that we do not follow Robert's Rules if we provide
otherwise in our bylaws.
I apologize for not making that clear.
I hadn't thought beyond the question of why our bylaws are the way they are.
The ASKC can change the bylaws and have absentee balloting for more issues.
All (!) we need is to adopt carefully thought out new language in the
bylaws.
Kathy

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Abesentee ballots


> Robert's applies only where the By-Laws do not provide otherwise. Perhaps
we should ask the members at the next general meeting?
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Kathy
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:13 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] Abesentee ballots
>
>
>   Absentee ballot issue
>   Way back when, we did not have any absentee ballots at all. Either you
were
>   at the meeting, or you did not vote. The end.
>
>   That is the recommended procedure in Robert's Rules of order.
>
>   Why?
>   OK, let's say we have a motion before the ASKC that we donate $50 to a
>   memorial fund for the Clyde Tombaugh memorial fund.
>   We put a ballot in the newsletter.
>   At the meeting, someone proposes that we amend the motion to say that we
>   donate  $500 instead. The amendment passes and that is the final motion
>   voted on at the meeting.
>   What then happens to the absentee ballots? They are not valid, as the
issue
>   was not the same. Those members did not have a chance at voting on the
final
>   proposal. A person who voted yes to $50 might have voted no to $500. So,
you
>   can not count any of the absentee votes, pro or con.
>   The right of the assembly to modify motions brought before it is a basic
>   part of Robert's rules.
>   We have provisions for a time to modify motions for bylaws  and for
>   elections  (when nominations are made in May). These are all two-step
>   processes, so the motion (bylaw change or election) on the newsletter
ballot
>   is the same one being voted on by all members - those there and the
>   absentee.
>   So, that is the potential problem - the absentee ballots may become void
by
>   a change in the motion. That in turn deprives absentee members of the
right
>   to vote on that particular proposal.
>   Doing away with the right of the group to amend a motion maybe can be
done
>   under some sort of procedural thing, but I think that if 2/3 of the
people
>   at the meeting want to amend it, it can be done. I have not researched
that.
>
>   The other thing to note is the difference between proxy and absentee
>   ballots. There is a big difference. If you hold some ones proxy, you get
>   that persons vote for whatever. I think proxies are a lot more prone to
>   manipulation than a straight-forward absentee ballot in a signed
envelope.
>   Kathy Machin
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Gary Pittman" <gary_rp@...>
>   To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:20 AM
>   Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: motion
>
>
>   > This isn't a policy that has been instituted recently. It was part of
the
>   > bylaws when I joined ASKC over twenty years ago. I can't hazard a
guess on
>   > why or when it was put in place.
>   >
>   > Clear skies,
>   >
>   > Gary
>   >
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
>   > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:51 PM
>   > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>   >
>   > Before officially making such a proposal I'd like to know the
reasoning
>   > behind the original by-law. Does anyone remember why it was put in
there
>   to
>   > start with?
>   > David Young
>   > dyoung8@...
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Carroll Iorg
>   >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:08 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion
>   >
>   >
>   >   The mechanism is there in the current bylaws to make a proposal for
the
>   >   change.. Two members sign a proposal and forward it to the Bylaws
>   > committee.
>   >
>   >   Carroll Iorg
>   >       Chairman, Bylaws committee
>   >
>   >
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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Gina,
Good points.
There have been times when Gil and I have had to be out of town when an
issue was being voted on and we would have liked to vote.
I have a couple of procedural concerns, but I am certain they will be worked
out before the final proposal. It should be interesting to see how this
goes.
Kathy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gina Fedon" <antares@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] motion


> Tim, Kathy, and David:
>
> You all bring up some good points.  The club is generally managed by
people
> who are very much involved, the elected board.  However, there are
sometimes
> issues that the board feels should be voted on by the whole membership.
> Unfortunately, many members cannot attend meetings:  it's not that they
> don't care, but they often have to travel for work, or maybe they are too
> old to drive...  Others live out of town or may have family/work
obligations
> that prevent them from coming to a meeting.
>
> You see, I am very grateful to my county for recently allowing citizens
> residing abroad to vote on any issue or election via mail.  I care very
much
> for my country and its political life--after all I'm still a citizen after
> 12 years abroad and read its news daily--but until now I had no way to
vote.
> Sometimes life commitments just prevent you from being there in person to
> vote, but you still CARE.  The ability to be part of the decision process
of
> the body to which you belong--be it a country or the ASKC-is the mark of a
> true democratic system.
>
> And we need not always worry about the knowledge of the general membership
> when it comes to issues that the board decides to bring forth for general
> vote:  case in point, whether the newsletter should be a paper or
e-version.
> I think every single member would be able to tell us whether he/she would
> rather have one over the other.
>
> About the proxy idea:  yes, I agree, proxies are not good, unless you know
> for sure that the person you are giving your proxy will vote the way you
> would.  Signed mail ballots are the way to go.
>
> And if we ever allowed mail ballots we definitely could NOT allow a motion
> to be changed after the ballots went out.  Yes, we'd have to change the
> by-laws to put a deadline to the motion amendments.  But, really, that's
not
> such an otherwordly idea:  when you vote for an issue in your city or
state
> or country they don't change the choices the day you go to the polls, do
> they?  Imagine if you went to vote for a presidential candidate or city
> bond, and when you get there they inform you that the whole thing has
> changed!
>
> Well, ok, I'll quit now.  :-)  But this issue has been on my mind for a
> while and I was going to bring it up anyway...
>
> Gina

Gary,

My copy also is exactly as you described.  Glad to hear it wasn't my imagination ... when I first noticed this I though it was an illusion caused by Klingon mind-control lasers ... guess I can take the soup pot off my head and get on with my life now.

-Dave Dembinski


Gary Pittman <gary_rp@...> wrote:

>
>Hey gang. I was browsing my latest Sky & Tel and notice that at page 66 the
>publication inverts pages 51-66 and then re-inverts starting with page
>83-150. In other words, pages 67-82 are missing and pages 51-66 are
>duplicated in an upside down fashion. Is mine the only issue like this or
>have others received the same error in their March issue?
>
>Clear skies,
>
>Gary
>
>
>
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I'm sorry this affected you, but I'm glad they didn't single me out. There
for a while I thought maybe my renewal money was late. <G> I left an e-mail
concerning this at their web page. You might want to do the same. We'll see
what they say.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: DembinskiD@... [mailto:DembinskiD@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Sky & Tel, March 2003

Gary,

My copy also is exactly as you described.  Glad to hear it wasn't my
imagination ... when I first noticed this I though it was an illusion caused
by Klingon mind-control lasers ... guess I can take the soup pot off my head
and get on with my life now.

-Dave Dembinski


Gary Pittman <gary_rp@...> wrote:

>
>Hey gang. I was browsing my latest Sky & Tel and notice that at page 66 the
>publication inverts pages 51-66 and then re-inverts starting with page
>83-150. In other words, pages 67-82 are missing and pages 51-66 are
>duplicated in an upside down fashion. Is mine the only issue like this or
>have others received the same error in their March issue?
>
>Clear skies,
>
>Gary
>
>
>
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>I just got off the phone to my good friend Curtis who loves in California. 
>An amateur astronomer like ourselves, he was up to watch the shuttle come 
>in this past weekend. I had talked to him the night before and he 
>mentioned that it would pass directly over his location. He has seen 3 
>Shuttles come in in the past and says it is an awsome experience. Being a 
>very experienced observer, he knew immediatly that something was not 
>right. He and a co-worker (The report CCN and NASA are now refering to as 
>the "witness in California") filed a written report on what they saw. He 
>said it was evidant that "material" was already breaking off the shuttle 
>as it passed overhead and by the time it was over Nevada it was obvious. 
>Needless to say, he is quite saddened at what he witnessed.  Just thought 
>i would pass this along. You never know when observations could be really 
>important.


vic



Vic Winter
ICSTARS Astronomy http://www.icstars.com
Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
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StarGarden Foundation - http://www.StarGardenFoundation.org
Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
(660) 747- 9458

FYI

I have had this little cd for some time called Clear Skies.  It is an
astronomy collections of Power Point programs developed by Swinburne
Centre for Astrophysics and Supercomputing.  The bio on the cd says,
"Explore our place in the local universe from the viewpoint of modern
astronomy.  This fully self-contained CD-ROM features multimedia content
adapted from the first three units of Swinburne Astronomy Online."  I
just downloaded all 39 programs and it only took 18.9 Megs.  Topics
included general solar system lessons, H-R diagrams, spectra and
spectral of the sun and stars, distances, time planetary motion, the
Milky Way and ....

The programs use both photographs and very nice graphics.


Joe

Gary,

Good idea ... I left them an email too.

Dave Dembinski




Gary Pittman <gary_rp@...> wrote:

>I'm sorry this affected you, but I'm glad they didn't single me out. There
>for a while I thought maybe my renewal money was late. <G> I left an e-mail
>concerning this at their web page. You might want to do the same. We'll see
>what they say.
>
>Clear skies,
>
>Gary
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DembinskiD@... [mailto:DembinskiD@...]
>Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:38 PM
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [ASKC] Sky & Tel, March 2003
>
>Gary,
>
>My copy also is exactly as you described. �Glad to hear it wasn't my
>imagination ... when I first noticed this I though it was an illusion caused
>by Klingon mind-control lasers ... guess I can take the soup pot off my head
>and get on with my life now.
>
>-Dave Dembinski
>
>
>Gary Pittman <gary_rp@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hey gang. I was browsing my latest Sky & Tel and notice that at page 66 the
>>publication inverts pages 51-66 and then re-inverts starting with page
>>83-150. In other words, pages 67-82 are missing and pages 51-66 are
>>duplicated in an upside down fashion. Is mine the only issue like this or
>>have others received the same error in their March issue?
>>
>>Clear skies,
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>>
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Too late, Gary.  She was all over Channel 9 news last night...

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] shuttle help


Vic, I'm sorry, I can't help you on any of this but if I did know Laural
Clark's sister is I would not give her name to the media. Specially at a
time like this.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Winter [mailto:vwinter@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] shuttle help


>Guys... the news media is looking for shuttle related kansas city
>stories... i have been on the phone all afternoon.
They think that because I am a NASA Solar System Ambassador (how they know
i have no idea... the "official" press release has yet to be released!)
that I have all the NASA connections.

They say the sister of astronaut Laural Clark lives in Kansas City. Does
anybody know who she is or how to contact her?

Does anyone know any shuttle related people living in the kc area? I know
tons of NASA people...but none are here in this area.

Any help would be appreciated. Good PR for the askc if we can help.
Call me if you have something that could help.
660-747-9458
913-709-5805

thanks,

vic




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Would electronic voting for absentee ballots (via the Internet) 
really be that hard to set up?

What you would need is an application that returns a voting key code 
upon request to an ASKC member's email address. The application would 
utilize a database of current members and would be capable of 
permiting two votes for family memberships, etc.

The voting key code would be entered on a website form to certify the 
member's vote. Key codes would be unique alphanumeric sequences. The 
results of a vote could be published in the CM (or on our website) 
along with the keycode sequences so that members could individually 
determine that their vote had been correctly recorded.

The application would not track keycode sequences by member id, but 
would register which member addresses had already received key codes 
for a particular vote. In this way, voter identity would be protected 
yet full accountability would be a simple matter.

An application like this could be put together will little trouble 
utilizing Java or VB (on an ASP page).

Fiske

My proposal will be for mail in absentee ballots. I'm still working on the exact wording after all the good feedback.

Of course you can offer an amendment to the proposed change while it's in the preliminary stages. I'll try to get the proposed change posted in the next day or so. Got busy here all of a sudden and am strapped for time.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mailto:fiskem3 <FiskeM3@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:38 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Electronic Voting


  Would electronic voting for absentee ballots (via the Internet) 
  really be that hard to set up?

  What you would need is an application that returns a voting key code 
  upon request to an ASKC member's email address. The application would 
  utilize a database of current members and would be capable of 
  permiting two votes for family memberships, etc.

  The voting key code would be entered on a website form to certify the 
  member's vote. Key codes would be unique alphanumeric sequences. The 
  results of a vote could be published in the CM (or on our website) 
  along with the keycode sequences so that members could individually 
  determine that their vote had been correctly recorded.

  The application would not track keycode sequences by member id, but 
  would register which member addresses had already received key codes 
  for a particular vote. In this way, voter identity would be protected 
  yet full accountability would be a simple matter.

  An application like this could be put together will little trouble 
  utilizing Java or VB (on an ASP page).

  Fiske






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This is a comment Al President Bob Gent made in response to Mark Klosinski 
and a remark he made on the astro-officers news group. AL Executive Secretary 
Jackie Beaucher asked me to Post it here on this newsgroup.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

Subj:   FW: [astro-officers] Why Belong to the Astronomical League  
Date:   2/3/03 8:23:30 AM Central Standard Time 
From:    m31@...
    
Hi Mark,
  It's been a while since we last communicated, and I am responding to your 
remarks included at the end of this message.  

I hope you enjoyed the holidays and all is well.  I am staying very busy as 
usual with my full time volunteer duties in the League and IDA. Your message 
(at end of my 
reply) was forwarded to me, and I'd like to comment.  Please feel free to 
share this with your astrofficers group.

         A few years ago, the Charlottesville Astronomical Society hosted
the one of the best astronomical conferences I have ever attended.  It was a 
League Regional meeting at the University of Virginia campus.  There were 
great speakers, awards presented, time at the professional observatory, and 
much more.  Most of the work for this was done by CAS volunteers, and it
made a positive impact on astronomy throughout the region.  This happened 
because 
they volunteered to do it. Sometimes we "get back" what we put into an 
organization.   But why else should we care about the League?  

      As the largest amateur astronomy organization in the world, the League 
offers a strong voice for amateur astronomers.  When we call or visit 
government offices or businesses to discuss light pollution or other issues 
on the behalf of the 19,000+ members of the League, they listen very
closely. 
  Most League members are not aware of these actions, but rest assured, your 
League officers do tackle many issues on the behalf of all amateurs.  This
is one of many reasons why membership support is critical to all of us.  

         Our accomplishments are amazing considering that we have always
been an all volunteer organization.  We publish the "Reflector," a color 
newsletter, and we administer very impressive youth awards, such as the 
National Young Astronomer Award.   We have published numerous manuals and 
reference documents, and so much more is on the horizon.  The dedication of 
hundreds of volunteers makes it possible for us to keep dues so very low. 
(Only $3.50 per member per year).  As a comparison, my individual American 
Astronomical Society dues are $125 per year.  

        We have a great League Sales Office, run by a dedicated and talented 
volunteer.  Our astronomical handbooks are low cost and very popular -- 
another of the many benefits of League membership.  League Sales is vastly 
expanding its inventory, has gone to color catalog, and now has on-line 
capability now. 

      We have created and run 17 astronomical observe programs.  Our regions 
started three major star parties -- Starry Nights Festival, TSP and Table 
Mountain.   We now have three major youth awards programs with over $10,000 
in prizes.  We hold national and regional conventions including joint 
meetings with AAVSO and ALPO (most years).   Our next annual convention will 
be held in Nashville, TN next July.   

      We provide free advertising and publicity for IDA and made a 
significant donation to the Stellafane Defense Fund.  The League was asked
to head up the ISS-AT (amateur space telescope) project.  We have five major 
adult recognition awards.  What better way to recognize outstanding club 
volunteers than with the national Webmaster Award, the Peltier Award, the 
newsletter editor (Mabel Sterns) award, and so many others.  This must be 
worthwhile because these awards are so popular.  

           We support and run S&T's Astronomy Day program.   We provided 
assistance to an MDA fundraising program.  We maintain a book service - 10% 
off of any book except League Sales items, no shipping charges.  We have 
opened a national office in Kansas City which will help us become more 
efficient and better able to grow the organization and respond to member 
needs.  Thanks to our membership strength, we represented a large number of 
astronomical societies and negotiated a group insurance program which is 
lucrative for many larger clubs.   

     More than anything else, the League is a tool.  If you want to meet 
people across the nation -- come to our conventions.  If you want to 
publicize a major club accomplishment or event, contact the REFLECTOR
editor. If you want to recognize someone, look to our youth, adult and 
regional 
awards.   If you want a structured Observing program, look to our 17 Observe  
programs.  

         If you want to save money on shipping on books, look to our book 
service.  If you want to give a talk to other amateurs, again look to our 
conventions.
If you want to create and run a program beneficial to amateurs, propose it to 

the League as so many have done in the past without Observe programs.  If
you have a large club that cannot get reasonable insurance, look to our group 

offering.   And, if there is something the League is not doing and should
be, then we would love to hear about that too ... along with proposals for 
staffing the new programs.

       As a full member of the American Astronomical Society, I have 
represented the League at several meetings at AAS Headquarters in DC.  We 
also have been very active in the Astronomical Pro-Am Cooperation 
Conferences.  Our past League President, Barry Beaman is active with 
Astronomical Society of the Pacific, Project ASTRO.  We are working to bring
astronomy to our youth and teachers.  Again, membership support is critical 
to the success of these many projects.  

       We must be doing something right because the League continues to
grow. We now have about 19,000 members from more than 250 societies.  Times 
are 
very exciting, and you'd love to hear about some of the new programs we will
be discussing at our annual meeting this July.  We are making great
progress, so hold on to your hat.

      In closing, all this happens because of dedicated, unselfish 
volunteers.  Don't you think it's wonderful to be part of such a wonderful 
organization?   I regret that I do not have enough time to share with you
any of the other exciting League news, but I am receiving about 50 e-mail 
messages a day, mostly involved with astronomical issues or questions on how 
to fight light pollution.  

Wishing everyone clear skies, good observing, and the very best for 2003!  

Bob Gent
President, Astronomical League
        www.astroleague.org
An educational federation of 250+ 
     astronomical societies
               and 
European Liaison Officer 
International Dark-Sky Association
    www.darksky.org 
Protecting the nighttime environment and preserving 
our heritage of dark-skies through quality outdoor lighting

bcc:  League's Executive Council
    
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<<  >To: <astro-officers@yahoogroups.com>
>From: "Mark Klosinski" <klosinski@...>
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 
>Subject: RE: [astro-officers] Re: Astronomical League
>
>I asked our club, Charlottesville Astronomical Society, what our
involvement
>with the league was.  The response was that our representative kept the
>mailing list updated.  That was it, and he was looking for someone to take
>over the duties.
>
>clear skies,
>Mark Klosinski >>


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Here is the latest occultation update from David Dunham. I hope you guys up 
north have clears skies for these events. Plus, there seems to be some 
opportunities for AAAA members in Brazil.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

Subj:   Asteroidal occ'n path updates for Feb. (+3 in March)    
Date:   2/2/03 10:55:37 PM Central Standard Time    
From:   <A HREF="mailto:dunham@...">dunham@...</A>    
To: <A HREF="mailto:ocultaciones-liada@...">ocultaciones-liada@...</A>   
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    


  Tomorrow evening, Feb. 3, an occultation of an 11.2-mag. star
will be occulted by the 77-km asteroid (501) Urhixidur around
6:35 pm EST in southern New England, along the Erie Canal in New
York, southern Ontario, lower Michican, and southern Wisconsin in
bright twilight.  Later that night (Tues. morning, Feb. 4, at 10h
U.T.) an occultation of an 11.5-mag. star will occur from San
Francisco to Denver, Omaha, Chicago, Montreal, and the Gaspe
Peninsula.  On Feb. 6 at 13h UT, an occultation of a 6.2-mag. star
will be visible from Taiwan, s. China, and northern India.  On Feb.
15th, the brightest asteroidal occultation of the year will occur,
of 2.6-mag. beta Librae by the small asteroid 1078 Mentha along a
path passing near Arequipa, Peru; Oruro, Bolivia; and Sao Paulo,
Brazil, as well as southern South Africa about an hour after sunrise
(observers there could find the star before sunrise and keep tracking
it).  The updated information for these and other good events in
February, and 3 in March (including the best 2003 USA event), is
given below.

      Updated information about asteroidal occultations visible from
North America, Europe, and some other areas are summarized according
to calculations by Steve Preston and Jan Manek.  Updated path maps,
finder charts, and other detailed information about these events can
be found at the Web sites at the end of this message; Steve
Preston's Web site also has path updates for South America,
Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and often other areas, while Jan
Manek's site covers Europe and southern Africa (but some European
events are instead on Preston's site, especially trans-Atlantic
events); you should consult them since I mainly list the better
foreign and North American events here. Under "Approx. location",
places are spelled out when they can be, but usually it is necessary
to use the standard two-letter postal abbreviations for the States
of the USA and provinces of Canada (for example, AB = Alberta, NB =
New Brunswick, NE = Nebraska) or the two-letter country
abbreviations used in Web and e-mail addresses (FR = France, DE =
Germany, NZ = New Zealand, etc.).  "cen." means central, and small
letters, with or without ".", indicate the part of the State,
Province, or country, such as sCA = southern California, nON =
northern Ontario, sTX = southern Texas, etc.  Often, not every place
crossed by a path is mentioned, so if you are between two listed
states or countries, the event may occur in your location; also, due
to remaining path errors, if you are in adjacent areas, you should
also watch since the actual path might occur at your location.
Unless otherwise specified in the notes, the magnitude drop in case
of an occultation is 1.0 or more. Those especially in the Americas
are reminded that the dates and times below are U.T., and that local
dates may be a day earlier.  The updated paths are final for events
to about Feb. 8, but later events, the paths may move slightly with
further updates. NOTE that the times are U.T.; especially in the
Americas, events often occur the evening of the PREVIOUSLY-LISTED
date, local time.

2003             Asteroid        S   t   a   r
Date  U.T.               Diam.,    R.A.(2000)Dec.
Feb.h  m   m    #  Name     km mag.  h   m    o  / Approx. location
  3 23:34-:36  501 Urhixidur 77 11.2  2 23.3 +36 19 seMA,RI,CT,NY,sMI,sWI
  4 10:42-:46  491 Carina    97 11.5 15 25.8 -06 12 CA,CO,IA,nIL,sON,sPQ
  4 22:38-:39  480 Hansa     58 10.2  8 05.3 -12 45 South Africa
  5 22:31-:37  426 Hippo    134 11.2 10 14.5 +01 13 sRU,UA,BG,sIT,nMoroc.
  6 12:56-:76  442 Eichsfel. 65  6.2  8 04.8 +18 51 Tahiti,MI,TW,sCN,nIN
  6 23:32-:40  173 Ino      159 11.3 14 46.5 -02 47 nEG,IL,JO,nIR,UZ,sKZ
  7  4:09-:22  258 Tyche     64 11.6  6 52.1 +02 02 Ang.,SC,IL,sMN,sSK,nAK
  8  1:46-:48  173 Ino      159 11.7 14 47.0 -02 44 South Africa
  8  6:34-:44  275Sapientia 121 10.6  8 57.4 +17 18 nNC,swOH,nIL,MN,sAB,AK
  9  0:41-:43   34 Circe    113 12.2  0 42.7 +02 42 NS,NH,nNY,sMI,nIL,sIA
  9  5:43-:51  726 Joella    43 11.3  7 46.9 +00 36 nNC,nKY,IL,IA,MT,BC,AK
  9  6:03-:13  318 Magdalena 44 12.2  8 35.9 +10 34 nVE,wCU,TX,nNM,UT,OR
10  4:25-:36  335 Roberta   89 11.0  6 58.3 +18 50 VI,sFL,LA,nTX,NM,nCA
12  2:21-:33 1116 Catriona  39 11.6  5 55.5 +45 29 PQ,eNY,NJ,wVE,BO,neAR
15  4:05-:11 2461 Clavel    24  8.0  8 45.8 +19 03 Martin.,sCU,n.Mexico
15  5:03-:12 1078 Mentha    14  2.6 15 17.0 -09 23 sPE,BO,nPY,sBR,sZA
21  7:28-:44  404 Arsinoe   97 11.0 11 42.2 +26 46 nAR,nCL,PE,wMX,Calif.
22 11:35-:39  116 Sirnoa    71 11.5 15 16.3 -15 32 nCA,NV,nAZ,NM,TX-Hous.
27  2:52-:57  738 Alagasta  62 11.7  7 06.6 +21 38 eMass.,NH,nVT,swQuebec
27  4:28-:29   41 Daphne   174 11.6  8 43.1 +02 46 nNS,swNF,e.Quebec
28 23:25-:33  582 Olympia   43  9.6  8 31.2 +05 40 eBrazil,Maine,sQuebec
March
  1 11:02-:12   36 Atalante 105 10.3 12 25.6 -03 00 VA,KY,sKS,sCO,nCA,nJP
  1 23:43-:51  582 Olympia   43  9.9  8 30.9 +06 04 eBrazil,Maine,sQuebec
23  9:41-:62  704Interamnia316  6.7  7 27.2 +11 57 cen. Honshu, Hawaii

Notes for Individual Events:

Feb. 6, Eichsfeldia:  The star = SAO 97537=HIP 39535=ZC 1217 in Cancer.

Feb. 8, Sapientia:  The star is about 1' from the galaxy NGC 2711.  The
prediction is now quite accurate with UCAC data for the star, which is
less than a degree from Jupiter and closer to X Cancri.

Feb. 15, Clavel:  The star is SAO 98100 = HIP 42993.

Feb. 15, Mentha:  See notes in the first paragraph; the star is beta
Librae.  But the asteroid is rather smaller than the 1-sigma
uncertainty zone.

Feb. 27, Daphne:  The occ'n mag. drop is only 0.4.

March 23:  This first update, already very good (1-sigma error less
than 0.2 path-widths), shows that the path goes directly over Hawaii,
with all 8 major islands within the path.  With such a large asteroid
and bright star, it is the best asteroidal occultation in the USA this
year; two of us from the mainland are already planning trips for it.
The star is SAO 96908, near the Gemini-Canis Minor border.
______

For more about these events, see Steve Preston's Web site at
http://www.asteroidoccultation.com/
for updated path maps and other details, and see the asteroidal
occultation page of the main IOTA site at
http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/asteroids/astrndx.htm
for annotated versions of E. Goffin's good finder charts
for North American events and links to sites covering
other areas.  For Europe, see also Ludek Vasta and Jan Manek's site
at http://sorry.vse.cz/~ludek/mp .

I just list the events in the table above; see the Web sites for
the updated maps to see the closest approach time for your
location, and more accurate coordinates of the star and its
designation.  You must display this message with a fixed-space
font such as Courier for the columns of the table to line up.
The U.T. time range is given, with only the minutes of the
hour given for the end time (subtract 60 and add 1 to the hour
for end minutes greater than 59).

      Good luck with YOUR observations of asteroidal occultations during
2003!

David Dunham, 2003 February 3, 4h UT



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My Isp just informed me of a new science web site put together by the San
Francisco Exploratorium. Pretty interesting site. Shelley

Duh I forgot the link.

http://www.exploratorium.edu

David and friends,

Yes, I would be happy to support a motion to allow mail-in absentee ballots
on all isssues that are important enough to go before the General
Membership. While I understand the arguments that have been made against
this idea, this alternative way to vote is clearly  "more democratic", and
therefore a much more compelling argument.

Heck, if absentee ballots are good enough to elect our entire Federal
government, surely it is good enough for our club! Also - such votes are
rare, and there seems to be few technical problem in organizing such an
alternative method of voting.

I'll be at the next Board Meeting just as soon as my lab that evening is
over.

Dave H.




----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: motion


> I intend to submit a proposed change to the by-laws to allow absentee
ballots for proposals submitted to the general membership. I am seeking a
second person to sign the proposed change. I will post the proposed change
here later today.
>
> David Young
>

Hi:

I am trying to reach fellow members of team Six. 

I don't have an email address for Bill Thompson or Steve Tanquary. And the message I sent to Tom Martinez and Richard Fredrick was return as undeliverable.

Would anyone know their correct email addresses?

Thanks

Dave Brockway


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Dave, you can reach Richard Fredrick at gazer649@....

Dave  H.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Brockway" <dblaptop@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Team 6


> Hi:
>
> I am trying to reach fellow members of team Six.
>
> I don't have an email address for Bill Thompson or Steve Tanquary. And the
message I sent to Tom Martinez and Richard Fredrick was return as
undeliverable.
>
> Would anyone know their correct email addresses?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave Brockway
>
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Dave:  I don't know why the message was undeliverable to my address, martinez@..., but you may want to try it again.  Steve Tanquary is on the ASKC yahoogroup, so he may see you message and answer.  I don't know Bill Thompson's address.

Tom Martinez
  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:53 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Team 6


  Hi:

  I am trying to reach fellow members of team Six. 

  I don't have an email address for Bill Thompson or Steve Tanquary. And the message I sent to Tom Martinez and Richard Fredrick was return as undeliverable.

  Would anyone know their correct email addresses?

  Thanks

  Dave Brockway


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Thomson, Bill
E-mail Address(es):
  bill@...


> I am trying to reach fellow members of team Six. 
> 
> I don't have an email address for Bill Thompson or 
> Would anyone know their correct email addresses?
> 
> Thanks

Joe,
I would be interested in looking at it.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 22:37
Subject: [ASKC] power point


> FYI
>
> I have had this little cd for some time called Clear Skies.  It is an
> astronomy collections of Power Point programs developed by Swinburne
> Centre for Astrophysics and Supercomputing.  The bio on the cd says,
> "Explore our place in the local universe from the viewpoint of modern
> astronomy.  This fully self-contained CD-ROM features multimedia content
> adapted from the first three units of Swinburne Astronomy Online."  I
> just downloaded all 39 programs and it only took 18.9 Megs.  Topics
> included general solar system lessons, H-R diagrams, spectra and
> spectral of the sun and stars, distances, time planetary motion, the
> Milky Way and ....
>
> The programs use both photographs and very nice graphics.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
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Thanks Tom, I will try it again.

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Martinez" <martinez@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Team 6


> Dave:  I don't know why the message was undeliverable to my address,
martinez@..., but you may want to try it again.  Steve Tanquary is on
the ASKC yahoogroup, so he may see you message and answer.  I don't know
Bill Thompson's address.
>
> Tom Martinez
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dave Brockway
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:53 PM
>   Subject: [ASKC] Team 6
>
>
>   Hi:
>
>   I am trying to reach fellow members of team Six.
>
>   I don't have an email address for Bill Thompson or Steve Tanquary. And
the message I sent to Tom Martinez and Richard Fredrick was return as
undeliverable.
>
>   Would anyone know their correct email addresses?
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Dave Brockway
>
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Dave N and I did presentations and handed out a lot of brochures etc to 
adults and kids at Sante Fe school. I will give the $50 we got to the club 
which was given to me to hand to the club :)
It was a good night- there first science night.

Just got back from speaking at a storm chaser conference in Denver. It was 
cool and some of the chasers had seen eclipses and auroras. My presentation 
went well too.

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website - 
<ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website 
<http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/satoriastronomy.htm> -editor- 
Black Sun eclipse newsletter (eclipse/astronomy news) to subscribe send email 
to blacksuneclipse-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Jerry Meyers sent me the following URL:

http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/

It's a flash presentation that takes a minute or two to download, but 
it's well worth the effort. Weird and amusing.

Fiske

PS: Moon Song apparel and mugs are available...

me, too, Joe.....
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:Carroll-Iorg@...]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] power point


Joe,
I would be interested in looking at it.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 22:37
Subject: [ASKC] power point


> FYI
>
> I have had this little cd for some time called Clear Skies.  It is an
> astronomy collections of Power Point programs developed by Swinburne
> Centre for Astrophysics and Supercomputing.  The bio on the cd says,
> "Explore our place in the local universe from the viewpoint of modern
> astronomy.  This fully self-contained CD-ROM features multimedia content
> adapted from the first three units of Swinburne Astronomy Online."  I
> just downloaded all 39 programs and it only took 18.9 Megs.  Topics
> included general solar system lessons, H-R diagrams, spectra and
> spectral of the sun and stars, distances, time planetary motion, the
> Milky Way and ....
>
> The programs use both photographs and very nice graphics.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the club
at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of canned
program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science nights...a
program aimed at elementary school kids.

Dave H.



----- Original Message -----
From: <KCStarguy@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:08 PM
Subject: [ASKC] last thursday


> Dave N and I did presentations and handed out a lot of brochures etc to
> adults and kids at Sante Fe school. I will give the $50 we got to the club
> which was given to me to hand to the club :)
> It was a good night- there first science night.
>
> Just got back from speaking at a storm chaser conference in Denver. It was
> cool and some of the chasers had seen eclipses and auroras. My
presentation
> went well too.
>
> Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
> webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website -
> <ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website
> <http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/satoriastronomy.htm> -editor-
> Black Sun eclipse newsletter (eclipse/astronomy news) to subscribe send
email
> to blacksuneclipse-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
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>
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>
>

I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
6th.   These affairs are getting quite common with schools, it would appear.
BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:50 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the club
at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of canned
program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science nights...a
program aimed at elementary school kids.

Dave H.



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OK, that's even more weird than Patrick Moore playing the xylophone!

-Scott

>>> FiskeM3@... 02/04/03 06:49AM >>>
Jerry Meyers sent me the following URL:

http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/ 

It's a flash presentation that takes a minute or two to download, but 
it's well worth the effort. Weird and amusing.

Fiske

PS: Moon Song apparel and mugs are available...




 

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Eric has help out or presented at several of these school science nights. The Shawnee-Mission school district has these every spring. So far I haven't had much luck recruiting very many ASKC members for these so we don't do much of a presentation in most cases. Jackie does a nice job with these as well.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Hudgins 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


  Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the club
  at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of canned
  program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science nights...a
  program aimed at elementary school kids.

  Dave H.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <KCStarguy@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:08 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] last thursday


  > Dave N and I did presentations and handed out a lot of brochures etc to
  > adults and kids at Sante Fe school. I will give the $50 we got to the club
  > which was given to me to hand to the club :)
  > It was a good night- there first science night.
  >
  > Just got back from speaking at a storm chaser conference in Denver. It was
  > cool and some of the chasers had seen eclipses and auroras. My
  presentation
  > went well too.
  >
  > Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
  > webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website -
  > <ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website
  > <http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/satoriastronomy.htm> -editor-
  > Black Sun eclipse newsletter (eclipse/astronomy news) to subscribe send
  email
  > to blacksuneclipse-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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I talked to Bill Thomson last night about it. I'm supposed to run the StarLab planetarium for them. I ran it at Brookwood last week but the primary cylinder is missing. If they don't come up with the missing cylinder or get a replacement, it will be a pretty lame program. They only had the constellation cylinder, a map of the globe and an RA and Dec cylinder. The RA and Dec is the only one remotely usable and I had trouble finding 4 constellation with it. The lines are too bright and overwhelm the "stars". I sure hope they find the missing cylinder!
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:17 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] last thursday


  I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
  6th.   These affairs are getting quite common with schools, it would appear.
  BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?

  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:50 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


  Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the club
  at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of canned
  program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science nights...a
  program aimed at elementary school kids.

  Dave H.



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It's a long drive for us northlanders, but I'll help out when the dates fill
holes in my travel schedule.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:06 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


  Eric has help out or presented at several of these school science nights.
The Shawnee-Mission school district has these every spring. So far I haven't
had much luck recruiting very many ASKC members for these so we don't do
much of a presentation in most cases. Jackie does a nice job with these as
well.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: David Hudgins
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:50 AM
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


    Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the
club
    at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of
canned
    program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science
nights...a
    program aimed at elementary school kids.

    Dave H.



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <KCStarguy@...>
    To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:08 PM
    Subject: [ASKC] last thursday


    > Dave N and I did presentations and handed out a lot of brochures etc
to
    > adults and kids at Sante Fe school. I will give the $50 we got to the
club
    > which was given to me to hand to the club :)
    > It was a good night- there first science night.
    >
    > Just got back from speaking at a storm chaser conference in Denver. It
was
    > cool and some of the chasers had seen eclipses and auroras. My
    presentation
    > went well too.
    >
    > Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
    > webmaster Eric's Black Sun Eclipse website -
    > <ericsblacksuneclipse.com>webmaster,  Satori Astronomy website
    >
<http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/satoriastronomy.htm> -editor-
    > Black Sun eclipse newsletter (eclipse/astronomy news) to subscribe
send
    email
    > to blacksuneclipse-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Thanks, David.   I momentarily forgot about the StarLab being there as well.
Let's hope that other part is found! 
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:10 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


I talked to Bill Thomson last night about it. I'm supposed to run the
StarLab planetarium for them. I ran it at Brookwood last week but the
primary cylinder is missing. If they don't come up with the missing cylinder
or get a replacement, it will be a pretty lame program. They only had the
constellation cylinder, a map of the globe and an RA and Dec cylinder. The
RA and Dec is the only one remotely usable and I had trouble finding 4
constellation with it. The lines are too bright and overwhelm the "stars". I
sure hope they find the missing cylinder!
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:17 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] last thursday


  I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
  6th.   These affairs are getting quite common with schools, it would
appear.
  BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?

  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Hudgins [mailto:dhudgins@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:50 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] last thursday


  Eric, Many thanks to you and Dave Neuenschwander for representing the club
  at this school science night! It would be cool if we had some kind of
canned
  program (video or Powerpoint?) to run on a TV for school science
nights...a
  program aimed at elementary school kids.

  Dave H.



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How does this look to the rest of you?

Article Three

4.0 Absentee Ballots

4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots are used.

4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the polls are closed to be valid.

4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the vote.

4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on, there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

David Young
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Overall, good.  I've inserted a suggestion that may prevent future
embarassment...
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  How does this look to the rest of you?

  Article Three

  4.0 Absentee Ballots

  4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots
are used.

  4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the
polls are closed to be valid.[Dick Harshaw] Ballots must likewise be signed
with the same signature/name.

  4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the
vote.

  4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

  4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

  4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on,
there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

  David Young
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I like your change Dick, but I think the ballots should be received before the general meeting comences.

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I forgot to sign my name to the previous messege
    Larry goode

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I think that the absentee ballots should be received during the beginning 
of the meeting because some may be brought by persons who are attending the 
meeting.  Specific example is when my spouse doesn't feel well enough to 
attend, but can't predict whether she will or not several days in advance.

Other comment is that we will have to supply more than one copy of the 
ballot in the CM to those with family memberships if we require that only 
the preprinted ballot is valid.

Roger Gruenke

At 06:06 PM 2/4/03 -0600, you wrote:
>I like your change Dick, but I think the ballots should be received before 
>the general meeting comences.
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I agree with that, Larry.

Dick Harshaw

  -----Original Message-----
  From: SHARON GOODE [mailto:woodshopg@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:07 PM
  To: e groups
  Subject: [ASKC] Ballots


  I like your change Dick, but I think the ballots should be received before
the general meeting comences.



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Some very good ideas presented here.  We may want to consider whether we
want the ballot itself to be signed or
not.  We have not recently had that requirement I think partially to keep
the confidentiality of the "secret ballot".

Carroll Iorg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Harshaw" <dwharshaw@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:30
Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


> Overall, good.  I've inserted a suggestion that may prevent future
> embarassment...
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots
>
>
>   How does this look to the rest of you?
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>   Article Three
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>   4.0 Absentee Ballots
>
>   4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written
ballots
> are used.
>
>   4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before
the
> polls are closed to be valid.[Dick Harshaw] Ballots must likewise be
signed
> with the same signature/name.
>
>   4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the
> vote.
>
>   4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.
>
>   4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.
>
>   4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted
on,
> there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is
published.
>
>   David Young
>   dyoung8@...
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"Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@...> wrote:

>I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
>6th. 
>BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?

I would be happy to help with this one, too.  Please send logistics.

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let you know-- I could help out too.  It all depends on the Canucks.


  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:36 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] last thursday


  "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@...> wrote:

  >I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
  >6th.
  >BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?

  I would be happy to help with this one, too.  Please send logistics.

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I'm not comfortable with having people sign their ballot. The tellers would know how a particular person voted and I don't think that's the right way to do things. Only anonymous votes could be counted on to reflect the true opinions since peer pressure would not be a factor.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Harshaw 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  Overall, good.  I've inserted a suggestion that may prevent future
  embarassment...
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots


    How does this look to the rest of you?

    Article Three

    4.0 Absentee Ballots

    4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots
  are used.

    4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the
  polls are closed to be valid.[Dick Harshaw] Ballots must likewise be signed
  with the same signature/name.

    4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the
  vote.

    4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

    4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

    4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on,
  there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

    David Young
    dyoung8@...

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Dick, I see your point on the absentee ballot signature but then the ballot
is no longer secret, which is one point of having a ballot.

The way I understand the direction this is heading is: You plan to send two
copies of the ballot in a newsletter to those with a "Family Membership" and
only one ballot to those with a "Individual, Junior or Senior Membership".
Keep in mind that in order to get a bulk mailing rate from the postal
service each piece of bulk mail is required to be identical, not only in
size but also in weight. If the USPS decides to check your weight, which I
have been told they do on a regular basis, they may revoke your bulk mail
privileges.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots

How does this look to the rest of you?

Article Three

4.0 Absentee Ballots

4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots
are used.

4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the
polls are closed to be valid.

4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the vote.

4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on,
there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

David Young
dyoung8@...

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In addition to signing the envelopes I think the name of the submitter
should be printed in a legible fashion on the envelope.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots

How does this look to the rest of you?

Article Three

4.0 Absentee Ballots

4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots
are used.

4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the
polls are closed to be valid.

4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the vote.

4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on,
there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

David Young
dyoung8@...

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Veterans:

As you are aware of, there are quite a few new trainees going through
key holder training.  As part of the responsibility of a key holder and
training, each new person is assigned to a seasoned veteran.  It is your
responsibility to further their training by virtue of being a key
holder.  There is no better training then under real conditions (notice,
I didn't say idea conditions).  It is also your responsibility to find
YOUR replacement if you can't be there during your duty week.  When you
find a replacement, notify you duty partner (this would also include
program nights).  I would also suggest to team leaders to arrange to
meet any new persons on your team prior to any program night and also
let them prepare the observatory (opening-scope boot up).  Currently
there are 10 new people that have or are scheduled to take training.
This is awesome.


Team Leaders:

I have had no reply as to any changes in program topics.  This needs to
be completed by March 1 so this information can be released.

Thank you,

Joe

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I'm not comfortable with having people sign their ballot. The
tellers would know how a particular person voted and I don't think
that's the right way to do things. Only anonymous votes could be
counted on to reflect the true opinions since peer pressure would not
be a factor.

Playing devil's advocate here....
If an absentee ballot is mailed, doesn't the ballot counter then know
who the ballot is from? Even if the actually ballot is signed or not,
the cat's out of the bag on the return address.
AND if the envelope does not show a return address, then how do you
know it is a legitimate ballot? There is no way to tell if the
individual is a member or not.
How is it done on the board elections? The still sealed envelopes are
given to the tellers, who then open the envelope and tally the ballot.
Does't the teller at this point know how the individual voted?

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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Well, one person could take the ballot out of the signed envelope without
looking at the ballot itself (just verify that the signed envelope is from a
current member) and pass it to another teller or two for recording of the
vote.   I guess we'd have to trust the person opening the envelope won't
peak at the ballot.

Gina

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:04 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: absentee ballots


  Playing devil's advocate here....
  If an absentee ballot is mailed, doesn't the ballot counter then know
  who the ballot is from? Even if the actually ballot is signed or not,
  the cat's out of the bag on the return address.
  AND if the envelope does not show a return address, then how do you
  know it is a legitimate ballot? There is no way to tell if the
  individual is a member or not.



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Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.  Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

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> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/2003%20Powell%20Schedule.jpg
> 
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Just print one full page with two ballots on the page. Voters/senders could cut them apart before mailing them. It would be up to the tellers to make sure the envelopes contained qualified ballots, i.e.. correct number and from a member.

We don't do so for the current absentee ballots but we could retain the envelopes if we needed them for later verification that the ballots actually came from the person who signed the envelope. 

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Pittman 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  Dick, I see your point on the absentee ballot signature but then the ballot
  is no longer secret, which is one point of having a ballot.

  The way I understand the direction this is heading is: You plan to send two
  copies of the ballot in a newsletter to those with a "Family Membership" and
  only one ballot to those with a "Individual, Junior or Senior Membership".
  Keep in mind that in order to get a bulk mailing rate from the postal
  service each piece of bulk mail is required to be identical, not only in
  size but also in weight. If the USPS decides to check your weight, which I
  have been told they do on a regular basis, they may revoke your bulk mail
  privileges.

  Clear skies,

  Gary

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots

  How does this look to the rest of you?

  Article Three

  4.0 Absentee Ballots

  4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written ballots
  are used.

  4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before the
  polls are closed to be valid.

  4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the vote.

  4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

  4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

  4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted on,
  there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is published.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...

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I'll probably have a topic change.  I'll get this set up before the March 1
deadline.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 22:38
Subject: [ASKC] Duty Weeks and Pairs


> Veterans:
>
> As you are aware of, there are quite a few new trainees going through
> key holder training.  As part of the responsibility of a key holder and
> training, each new person is assigned to a seasoned veteran.  It is your
> responsibility to further their training by virtue of being a key
> holder.  There is no better training then under real conditions (notice,
> I didn't say idea conditions).  It is also your responsibility to find
> YOUR replacement if you can't be there during your duty week.  When you
> find a replacement, notify you duty partner (this would also include
> program nights).  I would also suggest to team leaders to arrange to
> meet any new persons on your team prior to any program night and also
> let them prepare the observatory (opening-scope boot up).  Currently
> there are 10 new people that have or are scheduled to take training.
> This is awesome.
>
>
> Team Leaders:
>
> I have had no reply as to any changes in program topics.  This needs to
> be completed by March 1 so this information can be released.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Thanks, Dick.   But we may be in fine shape now with 3 of us there...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] last thursday


Looks like I'll be in Canada on that day.  If the trip falls through, I'll
let you know-- I could help out too.  It all depends on the Canucks.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: david9660@... [mailto:david9660@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:36 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] last thursday


  "Beucher, Jackie" <jbeucher@...> wrote:

  >I have another science night to do at Westwood School in Mission on March
  >6th.
  >BTW... anyone out there available to set up another telescope that night?

  I would be happy to help with this one, too.  Please send logistics.

  David Neuenschwander

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Actually, no ballot in the political arena (at least) is secret-- all are
numbered and if someone wanted to badly enough, they could tell how you
voted.

I just thought the signature would help validate a ballot where the
individual was not present to vote.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:49 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  I'm not comfortable with having people sign their ballot. The tellers
would know how a particular person voted and I don't think that's the right
way to do things. Only anonymous votes could be counted on to reflect the
true opinions since peer pressure would not be a factor.
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dick Harshaw
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:30 PM
    Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


    Overall, good.  I've inserted a suggestion that may prevent future
    embarassment...
      -----Original Message-----
      From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
      To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots


      How does this look to the rest of you?

      Article Three

      4.0 Absentee Ballots

      4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written
ballots
    are used.

      4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before
the
    polls are closed to be valid.[Dick Harshaw] Ballots must likewise be
signed
    with the same signature/name.

      4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the
    vote.

      4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.

      4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

      4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted
on,
    there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is
published.

      David Young
      dyoung8@...

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Easy solution here-- mark one ballot "Primary Membership Voter" and the
other "Secondary Membership Voter."
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gary Pittman [mailto:gary_rp@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:59 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  Dick, I see your point on the absentee ballot signature but then the
ballot
  is no longer secret, which is one point of having a ballot.

  The way I understand the direction this is heading is: You plan to send
two
  copies of the ballot in a newsletter to those with a "Family Membership"
and
  only one ballot to those with a "Individual, Junior or Senior Membership".
  Keep in mind that in order to get a bulk mailing rate from the postal
  service each piece of bulk mail is required to be identical, not only in
  size but also in weight. If the USPS decides to check your weight, which I
  have been told they do on a regular basis, they may revoke your bulk mail
  privileges.

  Clear skies,

  Gary



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Wow, Scott -- you shouldn't have thrown any away.   I could have used those
x3 for the talks that I do.   I ran off some of my own.  Perhaps we need to
make sure there is an ample supply available at general meetings....
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than
possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.
Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
> group.
> 
>   File        : /2003 Powell Schedule.jpg
>   Uploaded by : stripe1966 <skranz@...>
>   Description : formal 2003 schedule -maybe
> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/2003%20Powell%20Schedule.jpg
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/2003%20Powell%20Schedule.jpg> 
> 
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
> 
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
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I brought them to General Metings and Board Meetings and no one was taking any more.

This year you need to grab a whole bunch.  Or I'll print off a huge box just for you if you like.


scott

>>> jbeucher@... 02/05/03 08:39AM >>>
Wow, Scott -- you shouldn't have thrown any away.   I could have used those
x3 for the talks that I do.   I ran off some of my own.  Perhaps we need to
make sure there is an ample supply available at general meetings....
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than
possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.
Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

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> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
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> 
>   File        : /2003 Powell Schedule.jpg
>   Uploaded by : stripe1966 <skranz@....net>
>   Description : formal 2003 schedule -maybe
> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/2003%20Powell%20Schedule.jpg 
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/2003%20Powell%20Schedule.jpg> 
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> 
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Scott -- that would work for me!   Like others, I probably didn't want to
appear too greedy, taking a large number.   But I truly do use them, so...
yeah!   Print me a stack 4" tall or so....   Thanks!  (My Dad's copy machine
at home finally bit the dust, after umteen million copies for the ASKC!)
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:18 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


I brought them to General Metings and Board Meetings and no one was taking
any more.

This year you need to grab a whole bunch.  Or I'll print off a huge box just
for you if you like.


scott

>>> jbeucher@... 02/05/03 08:39AM >>>
Wow, Scott -- you shouldn't have thrown any away.   I could have used those
x3 for the talks that I do.   I ran off some of my own.  Perhaps we need to
make sure there is an ample supply available at general meetings....

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than
possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.
Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
> group.
> 
>   File        : /2003 Powell Schedule.jpg
>   Uploaded by : stripe1966 <skranz@...>
>   Description : formal 2003 schedule -maybe
> 
> You can access this file at the URL
> 
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Joe wants the final topics decided on by March 1?  Joe?

After March 1 then I willl start the copy machines.

scott

>>> jbeucher@... 02/05/03 09:56AM >>>
Scott -- that would work for me!   Like others, I probably didn't want to
appear too greedy, taking a large number.   But I truly do use them, so...
yeah!   Print me a stack 4" tall or so....   Thanks!  (My Dad's copy machine
at home finally bit the dust, after umteen million copies for the ASKC!)
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:18 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


I brought them to General Metings and Board Meetings and no one was taking
any more.

This year you need to grab a whole bunch.  Or I'll print off a huge box just
for you if you like.


scott

>>> jbeucher@... 02/05/03 08:39AM >>>
Wow, Scott -- you shouldn't have thrown any away.   I could have used those
x3 for the talks that I do.   I ran off some of my own.  Perhaps we need to
make sure there is an ample supply available at general meetings....

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than
possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.
Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

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Scott, what I used to do with them..havent this year obviously, is take a
few stacks to places like Barns and noble and borders where they let you put
fliers and papers out by the front door. I also leave them in doctors
offices and send them to the schools. A flyer hanging in a store window was
how I first came into contact with the ASKC!  Shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:18 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


I brought them to General Metings and Board Meetings and no one was taking
any more.

This year you need to grab a whole bunch.  Or I'll print off a huge box just
for you if you like.


scott

>>> jbeucher@... 02/05/03 08:39AM >>>
Wow, Scott -- you shouldn't have thrown any away.   I could have used those
x3 for the talks that I do.   I ran off some of my own.  Perhaps we need to
make sure there is an ample supply available at general meetings....

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:14 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


Check out this flyer and see if you have any changes.......other than
possible topic changes.

Like last year, I can print out as many as we need in multi-colored paper.
Last year I printed off
about 800 copies and I ended up throwing about 300 of them away.

-scott

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>
> You can access this file at the URL
>
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Some very good ideas presented here.  We may want to consider whether we
want the ballot itself to be signed or
not.  We have not recently had that requirement I think partially to keep
the confidentiality of the "secret ballot".


I agree with the "confidentiality of the secret ballot."  If the outside of
the envelope is signed the ballot should be checked for membership, then
opened and put in a container and mixed with any other mail-in ballots.
Sometimes the secret ballot is very important to the outcome of a vote.
Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:Carroll-Iorg@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:13 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  Some very good ideas presented here.  We may want to consider whether we
  want the ballot itself to be signed or
  not.  We have not recently had that requirement I think partially to keep
  the confidentiality of the "secret ballot".

  Carroll Iorg
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Dick Harshaw" <dwharshaw@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 14:30
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] absentee ballots


  > Overall, good.  I've inserted a suggestion that may prevent future
  > embarassment...
  >   -----Original Message-----
  >   From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  >   Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM
  >   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >   Subject: [ASKC] absentee ballots
  >
  >
  >   How does this look to the rest of you?
  >
  >   Article Three
  >
  >   4.0 Absentee Ballots
  >
  >   4.1 Absentee Ballots will be accepted for all votes where written
  ballots
  > are used.
  >
  >   4.2 Absentee Ballots must be in a signed envelope and received before
  the
  > polls are closed to be valid.[Dick Harshaw] Ballots must likewise be
  signed
  > with the same signature/name.
  >
  >   4.3 Absentee Ballots will be provided in the newsletter preceding the
  > vote.
  >
  >   4.4 Absentee Ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.
  >
  >   4.5 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.
  >
  >   4.6 To insure absentee ballots are valid for the proposal being voted
  on,
  > there must be no changes to the proposal after the newsletter is
  published.
  >
  >   David Young
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What do we do with chads?

How many Chads do we have as members?  If more than one, we need to have
them sign their last names too, I guess....  <g>



  -----Original Message-----
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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 board meeting tomorrow?
Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)

No, it's a week later on the 13th (always the 2nd Tuesday of the month).

Carroll Iorg
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 18:36
Subject: [ASKC] board meeting tomorrow?


> board meeting tomorrow?
> Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)
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I can post compressed .jpg versions of the insurance files 
(currently .bmp files taking up several MB) to free up some space if 
we are interested in keeping these files available for reference.  
Thoughts?

Paul

Nope, we meet on the 2nd Thursday of each month.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: KCStarguy@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:36 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] board meeting tomorrow?


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I just received this announcement of this years IDA Conventnion. Look for 
more info on the IDA home page.

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA

Subj:   15th Annual IDA Meeting and Conference  
Date:   2/6/03 10:30:55 AM Central Standard Time    
From:   <A HREF="mailto:IDA@...">IDA@...</A> 
Reply-to:   <A HREF="mailto:admin@...">admin@...</A>   
To: <A HREF="mailto:EFLASPO@...">EFLASPO@...</A> 
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    


Dear IDA Member and Dark Sky Supporter,
    The March 20-23 dates for the 15th Annual International Dark-Sky 
Association's Annual Meeting and Conference are rapidly approaching. This 
promises to be an exceptional meeting, featuring many of the authorities on 
dark sky issues, including James Benya, Nancy Clanton, Terry McGowan, 
Mark Rea, Marc Gillet, Randy Reid, Dave DiLaura, Richard Stevens, Jonathan 
Lusher, Dan Duriscoe, and David Levy. 
    More detailed information about the meeting, the meeting program, and the 

meeting registration form can be found on our website at www.darksky.org. 
Please be sure to make your hotel reservation early to take advantage of the 
discounted IDA meeting rate (Holiday Inn - Palo Verde 1-800-465-4329).
    We look forward to seeing you in March,
    IDA



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Why are we talking about mailing out absentee ballots? Wouldn't we 
handle absentee ballots for any vote the same way we handle them for 
elections, etc?

We ought to just include the ballot in the Cosmic Messenger. People 
can print as many of them as they want. The critical element is the 
mailing envelope. The envelopes should be brought, unopened, to the 
General Meeting. 

Prior to counting the vote, the tellers would verify that each 
envelope was sent from a current member, determine the single/family 
membership status, open the envelope, count the number of ballots 
included (ensuring that the number matches the membership status), 
and then add the ballots to those handed in at the meeting without 
looking at how the member(s) voted. They'll be folded anyway, right?

Having the voting members sign the back of the envelopes would be a 
good thing I guess. After the ballots are removed from the envelopes, 
the names of the voting members who sent in absentee ballots could be 
recorded and posted with the Board Meeting minutes so members who 
want to could confirm that their vote was received and counted.

Wouldn't that be secure enough and enough validation?

Fiske

Yeah   what you said. Short of having every absentee ballot notarized, this seems like the best plan to me.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:01 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: absentee ballots


  Why are we talking about mailing out absentee ballots? Wouldn't we 
  handle absentee ballots for any vote the same way we handle them for 
  elections, etc?

  We ought to just include the ballot in the Cosmic Messenger. People 
  can print as many of them as they want. The critical element is the 
  mailing envelope. The envelopes should be brought, unopened, to the 
  General Meeting. 

  Prior to counting the vote, the tellers would verify that each 
  envelope was sent from a current member, determine the single/family 
  membership status, open the envelope, count the number of ballots 
  included (ensuring that the number matches the membership status), 
  and then add the ballots to those handed in at the meeting without 
  looking at how the member(s) voted. They'll be folded anyway, right?

  Having the voting members sign the back of the envelopes would be a 
  good thing I guess. After the ballots are removed from the envelopes, 
  the names of the voting members who sent in absentee ballots could be 
  recorded and posted with the Board Meeting minutes so members who 
  want to could confirm that their vote was received and counted.

  Wouldn't that be secure enough and enough validation?

  Fiske






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Ok, I know most of you don't have a thing for Marvin the Martian but.....

I found some bookmarks at Cargo Largo (formerly RSO) while rummaging in the caves today. They have a LOT of them and are selling at 8 for $1.00

I put a picture of one of them in the file area. I'll delete it Saturday. If you have any desire for one of these little guys I bought a dollars worth.


David Young
dyoung8@...

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Sure, David -- I'd love one!   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:32 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] bookmark


Ok, I know most of you don't have a thing for Marvin the Martian but.....

I found some bookmarks at Cargo Largo (formerly RSO) while rummaging in the
caves today. They have a LOT of them and are selling at 8 for $1.00

I put a picture of one of them in the file area. I'll delete it Saturday. If
you have any desire for one of these little guys I bought a dollars worth.


David Young
dyoung8@...

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I know Tom Martinez will want at least one.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:32 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] bookmark


  Ok, I know most of you don't have a thing for Marvin the Martian but.....

  I found some bookmarks at Cargo Largo (formerly RSO) while rummaging in
the caves today. They have a LOT of them and are selling at 8 for $1.00

  I put a picture of one of them in the file area. I'll delete it Saturday.
If you have any desire for one of these little guys I bought a dollars
worth.


  David Young
  dyoung8@...

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Borders on Metcalf has oversize copies of Backyard Astronomy for $7.00 each. They had about 20 of them.


David Young
dyoung8@...

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>>Borders on Metcalf has oversize copies of Backyard Astronomy for 
$7.00 each<<

David,

Thanks for the heads-up. Which Border's: the one at 93rd St or the 
one south of 119th St?

Rich Hathaway

I'll take one if you have any left. Marvin is a cool guy, even if he is a
alien.

Clear skies,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:32 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] bookmark

Ok, I know most of you don't have a thing for Marvin the Martian but.....

I found some bookmarks at Cargo Largo (formerly RSO) while rummaging in the
caves today. They have a LOT of them and are selling at 8 for $1.00

I put a picture of one of them in the file area. I'll delete it Saturday. If
you have any desire for one of these little guys I bought a dollars worth.


David Young
dyoung8@...

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Just south of 95th street.
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:14 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: books


  >>Borders on Metcalf has oversize copies of Backyard Astronomy for 
  $7.00 each<<

  David,

  Thanks for the heads-up. Which Border's: the one at 93rd St or the 
  one south of 119th St?

  Rich Hathaway






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Time is slipping by, and the Spring Banquet is only 1 week away.
If you plan on attending, you need to send your money now.

Here are the key points about the SPRING BANQUET.
Let others know if they are not on the egroup - pass the word.

SPRING BANQUET
Sunday afternoon Feb. 16th, 2003 at 1:00pm.
The Woodland Racetrack
Just east of I-435 and Leavenworth Rd
Kansas City Kansas
Fun is to be had with very interesting speaker, door prizes & gaming
if you wish

EVERYONE welcome--Do not need a "date" or "signigicant other" or
"wife" to attend

Cost is $20 per person
Full featured buffet

RSVP WITH MONIES TO (make checks out to ASKC):

HELEN ROBINSON
515 W. Kump
Bonner Springs Ks. 66012
Questions?? please call 913-422-1262.

observatory tonight- any keyholder  down there tonight and when? 

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)

Joe, 
There is no water on at Powell.
I checked the sink, toilets and kitchen and no water.
Tim


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The dino exhibits at Crown Center are very nice. Not only that, they're free! The exhibits at the south end on level one are very nicely done and the t-rex at the north end is impressive. Definitely worth a trip.

David Young
dyoung8@...

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If any of you are ever in the market for computer stuff, let me know before you buy. I'm headed out to the computer show to pick up three cables for a friends latest haul. 21" flat screen monitor = $71. A trio of printers and scanners for $37 total.  The trio was a stand alone flat bed scanner, a Canon S9000 36 bit color photo printer (will also serve as a regular printer) and an HP 710 printer/fax/scanner/copier. All of these in perfect working order. We need a parallel cable, a power cable and a USB cable.

Let me know if you are thinking of getting something like these items and I'll keep an eye out for bargains.
 
David Young
dyoung8@...

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Don't miss the "Handy Space Answer Book" to the right of the "Back Yard
Astronomy" book.  It's $6

Joe

David Young wrote:

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> David Young
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>   Subject: [ASKC] Re: books
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Walt & Helen -- I will be there!   And I'm bringing my big brother.  He 
officially moved into his own new place yesterday, so I am alone 
again...   I will mail a check tomorrow....

Jackie


At 06:01 PM 2/8/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Time is slipping by, and the Spring Banquet is only 1 week away.
>If you plan on attending, you need to send your money now.
>
>Here are the key points about the SPRING BANQUET.
>Let others know if they are not on the egroup - pass the word.
>
>SPRING BANQUET
>Sunday afternoon Feb. 16th, 2003 at 1:00pm.
>The Woodland Racetrack
>Just east of I-435 and Leavenworth Rd
>Kansas City Kansas
>Fun is to be had with very interesting speaker, door prizes & gaming
>if you wish
>
>EVERYONE welcome--Do not need a "date" or "signigicant other" or
>"wife" to attend
>
>Cost is $20 per person
>Full featured buffet
>
>RSVP WITH MONIES TO (make checks out to ASKC):
>
>HELEN ROBINSON
>515 W. Kump
>Bonner Springs Ks. 66012
>Questions?? please call 913-422-1262.
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I have star parties requested for the following dates:

Feb 15
Feb 16
Feb 21

Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.

How about a couple of volunteers?
David Young
dyoung8@...

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David

I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run with
another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

Dave Brockway

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


> I have star parties requested for the following dates:
>
> Feb 15
> Feb 16
> Feb 21
>
> Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it
seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
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> How about a couple of volunteers?
> David Young
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>How about a couple of volunteers?
What parties are most convenient for the duty keyholders?  I am available for any or all.  Please advise.

David Neuenschwander

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David --  As a keyholder, during our duty weeks, we are only responsible for
doing one duty night.   And, I haven't even been told about any scheduled
star parties until reading this very email.   Which one night am I
responsible for?  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Brockway [mailto:dblaptop@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:10 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


David

I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run with
another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

Dave Brockway

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


> I have star parties requested for the following dates:
>
> Feb 15
> Feb 16
> Feb 21
>
> Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it
seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
>
> How about a couple of volunteers?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
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Pick one you like and let me know which one you are doing.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


  David --  As a keyholder, during our duty weeks, we are only responsible for
  doing one duty night.   And, I haven't even been told about any scheduled
  star parties until reading this very email.   Which one night am I
  responsible for?  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dave Brockway [mailto:dblaptop@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:10 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  David

  I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run with
  another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

  I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

  Dave Brockway

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] star parties


  > I have star parties requested for the following dates:
  >
  > Feb 15
  > Feb 16
  > Feb 21
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  > Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it
  seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
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  > How about a couple of volunteers?
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
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Saturday the 15th works for me.   Can you give me the information on the
group?  Contact, phone, etc...?

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:36 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


Pick one you like and let me know which one you are doing.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:30 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


  David --  As a keyholder, during our duty weeks, we are only responsible
for
  doing one duty night.   And, I haven't even been told about any scheduled
  star parties until reading this very email.   Which one night am I
  responsible for?  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dave Brockway [mailto:dblaptop@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:10 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  David

  I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run with
  another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

  I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

  Dave Brockway

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] star parties


  > I have star parties requested for the following dates:
  >
  > Feb 15
  > Feb 16
  > Feb 21
  >
  > Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it
  seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
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  > How about a couple of volunteers?
  > David Young
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need more specifics
what , who, etc etc
Dr.Eric
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In a message dated 2/12/03 2:48:13 AM, ASKC@yahoogroups.com writes:

<< Feb 15
Feb 16
Feb 21
 >>

Powell Observatory
David Young
dyoung8@...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jones, Randy K 
To: 'David Young' 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: Powell Observatory


David,

    Sorry for the short lead time.  The campout was planned but I sometimes have to wait until the last minute to make sure I'll have enough adults to make the trip.  I appreciate whatever you can do.

Randy
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:34 PM
  To: Jones, Randy K
  Subject: Re: Powell Observatory


  Feb 15 is available but I may have trouble finding someone to staff it with this short lead time. I'll put you down for the 15th and start working on getting a staff member right away. I'll call you when I find someone.

  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jones, Randy K 
    To: 'dyoung8@...' 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:27 AM
    Subject: Powell Observatory


    I called last week about arranging a visit to Powell Observatory for a Boy Scout Troop.  I wanted to see if I could set something up for this Saturday night, Feb.15?  We are a small group probably no more than 3 adults 4 or 5 Scouts.  I am aware of the $25.00 fee plus $3.00 per person.  If this can be arranged, let me know what time and anything else I need to know.

    Thanks 
    Randy Jones 
    7620 Foster 
    Overland Park, KS 
    Scoutmaster, Troop 393 
    913-383-3038 Home 
    913-371-1558 Ext. 468 Work 
    816-805-9248 Cell 


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I forwarded the entire message with contact info to the e-group.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:03 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


  Saturday the 15th works for me.   Can you give me the information on the
  group?  Contact, phone, etc...?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:36 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  Pick one you like and let me know which one you are doing.
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beucher, Jackie 
    To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:30 AM
    Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


    David --  As a keyholder, during our duty weeks, we are only responsible
  for
    doing one duty night.   And, I haven't even been told about any scheduled
    star parties until reading this very email.   Which one night am I
    responsible for?  Jackie

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dave Brockway [mailto:dblaptop@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:10 PM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


    David

    I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run with
    another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

    I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

    Dave Brockway

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
    To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
    Subject: [ASKC] star parties


    > I have star parties requested for the following dates:
    >
    > Feb 15
    > Feb 16
    > Feb 21
    >
    > Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it
    seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
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Got it.   Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:44 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


I forwarded the entire message with contact info to the e-group.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:03 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


  Saturday the 15th works for me.   Can you give me the information on the
  group?  Contact, phone, etc...?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:36 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  Pick one you like and let me know which one you are doing.
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beucher, Jackie 
    To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:30 AM
    Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


    David --  As a keyholder, during our duty weeks, we are only responsible
  for
    doing one duty night.   And, I haven't even been told about any
scheduled
    star parties until reading this very email.   Which one night am I
    responsible for?  Jackie

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dave Brockway [mailto:dblaptop@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:10 PM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


    David

    I have my first duty week of the 22nd. I would like to have a dry run
with
    another member first and I saw you were looking for help next week.

    I can help on either the 16th or the 21st. Let me know which.

    Dave Brockway

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
    To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:09 PM
    Subject: [ASKC] star parties


    > I have star parties requested for the following dates:
    >
    > Feb 15
    > Feb 16
    > Feb 21
    >
    > Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but
it
    seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
    >
    > How about a couple of volunteers?
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The water in the park will be randomly off and on as they work on the road.  This can go on all
summer long as the city and county work on road construction.  There's no way of knowing in advance
when it will happen.

I handed out our tenative schedule.  They liked the detailed map.  One suggestion they had was to
print up a full 8.5 x 11 maps and post them behind glass at the Phillips 66, McDonalds, Burger King,
and Conoco.  Post the full-sized map along side our schedules.  We maybe won't have any repeat
problems about people being lost then.  We need to also work on our signs before the start of the
public season.

The soccer season starts in March and runs till May 17 - every Saturday.

Remember that May 17th is the Dirt Ralley.

During the weekend of April 11, 12, and 13, there will be about 150 Weeblos (sp?) camping out at the
Park.  They will be camping in the Tractor pull area, east of the treline.  Watch for kids running
back and forth to the bathrooms at the consession stand.

That's about it for this month.

-Scott

Scott,
Thanks for keeping us current with what is going on in Louisburg.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kranz" <skranz@...>
To: "!_askc" <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 19:33
Subject: [ASKC] February Park Board Meeting


> The water in the park will be randomly off and on as they work on the
road.  This can go on all
> summer long as the city and county work on road construction.  There's no
way of knowing in advance
> when it will happen.
>
> I handed out our tenative schedule.  They liked the detailed map.  One
suggestion they had was to
> print up a full 8.5 x 11 maps and post them behind glass at the Phillips
66, McDonalds, Burger King,
> and Conoco.  Post the full-sized map along side our schedules.  We maybe
won't have any repeat
> problems about people being lost then.  We need to also work on our signs
before the start of the
> public season.
>
> The soccer season starts in March and runs till May 17 - every Saturday.
>
> Remember that May 17th is the Dirt Ralley.
>
> During the weekend of April 11, 12, and 13, there will be about 150
Weeblos (sp?) camping out at the
> Park.  They will be camping in the Tractor pull area, east of the treline.
Watch for kids running
> back and forth to the bathrooms at the consession stand.
>
> That's about it for this month.
>
> -Scott
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Sounds like we may need to get a Porta-potty placed at the Observatory. With
the water being off and on who knows when we may have a large crowd and NO
WATER. Not to mention convenience to our members.
    Could we switch back (temporarily) to the water system we had in place
before we got on the city's water lines?

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:34 PM
  To: !_askc
  Subject: [ASKC] February Park Board Meeting


  The water in the park will be randomly off and on as they work on the
road.  This can go on all
  summer long as the city and county work on road construction.  There's no
way of knowing in advance
  when it will happen.

  I handed out our tenative schedule.  They liked the detailed map.  One
suggestion they had was to
  print up a full 8.5 x 11 maps and post them behind glass at the Phillips
66, McDonalds, Burger King,
  and Conoco.  Post the full-sized map along side our schedules.  We maybe
won't have any repeat
  problems about people being lost then.  We need to also work on our signs
before the start of the
  public season.

  The soccer season starts in March and runs till May 17 - every Saturday.

  Remember that May 17th is the Dirt Ralley.

  During the weekend of April 11, 12, and 13, there will be about 150
Weeblos (sp?) camping out at the
  Park.  They will be camping in the Tractor pull area, east of the treline.
Watch for kids running
  back and forth to the bathrooms at the consession stand.

  That's about it for this month.

  -Scott





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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Thompson" <randythm@s...> wrote:
> Sounds like we may need to get a Porta-potty placed at the
Observatory. With
> the water being off and on who knows when we may have a large crowd
and NO
> WATER. Not to mention convenience to our members.

Rental of Porta-potties can be an expense situation.
Maybe Louisburg knows of a contractor that would donate several for
the interim, or maybe Louisburg itself has several they would be
willing to donate. 

Rob Robinson

We could, but it would require some digging,. I dug up the old line by hand, capped the cistern line and connected to the water meter outside the fence. To activate the cistern, some one would need to dig up the top of the cistern. I could then drill a hole in the lid, install a submersible pump and put a tank on top of the ground outside. Of course this would be after the weather turns so it wouldn't freeze. I would connect this to the outside water faucet, turn the faucet on and thus pressurize the building. We would turn the power on when we opened up and off when we left.

Something to think on for a bit before we jump in.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Randy Thompson 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] February Park Board Meeting


  Sounds like we may need to get a Porta-potty placed at the Observatory. With
  the water being off and on who knows when we may have a large crowd and NO
  WATER. Not to mention convenience to our members.
      Could we switch back (temporarily) to the water system we had in place
  before we got on the city's water lines?

  Clear Skies,

  Randy


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
    Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:34 PM
    To: !_askc
    Subject: [ASKC] February Park Board Meeting


    The water in the park will be randomly off and on as they work on the
  road.  This can go on all
    summer long as the city and county work on road construction.  There's no
  way of knowing in advance
    when it will happen.

    I handed out our tenative schedule.  They liked the detailed map.  One
  suggestion they had was to
    print up a full 8.5 x 11 maps and post them behind glass at the Phillips
  66, McDonalds, Burger King,
    and Conoco.  Post the full-sized map along side our schedules.  We maybe
  won't have any repeat
    problems about people being lost then.  We need to also work on our signs
  before the start of the
    public season.

    The soccer season starts in March and runs till May 17 - every Saturday.

    Remember that May 17th is the Dirt Ralley.

    During the weekend of April 11, 12, and 13, there will be about 150
  Weeblos (sp?) camping out at the
    Park.  They will be camping in the Tractor pull area, east of the treline.
  Watch for kids running
    back and forth to the bathrooms at the consession stand.

    That's about it for this month.

    -Scott





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I'm doing a private star party Saturday evening at 6 PM (a small scout
group) with Bill Boyle.   Randy Thompson has kindly agreed to come down and
give a training session for RENEWING KEY HOLDERS, at 5 PM.   Randy says that
it only takes 45 minutes to go through things for existing keyholders, but
takes much longer for new ones.   He won't have time to do a complete
training session for new folks.    If you are a keyholder and want to get
your training in, we will be there rain or shine!
 
Jackie


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Can we still go to the Zoog Farm for observing?

-Scott

Let me check at the next Park Board meeting to see what they think will happen with the water.  Once soccer season starts, they will also be affected by the water outages.

Does ANYONE attend the City Council Meetings?????  They are held the 1st and 3rd Monday each month.  Everyone in the community is welcome to attend.

-Scott

>>> randythm@... 02/12/03 09:18PM >>>
Sounds like we may need to get a Porta-potty placed at the Observatory. With
the water being off and on who knows when we may have a large crowd and NO
WATER. Not to mention convenience to our members.
    Could we switch back (temporarily) to the water system we had in place
before we got on the city's water lines?

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:34 PM
  To: !_askc
  Subject: [ASKC] February Park Board Meeting


  The water in the park will be randomly off and on as they work on the
road.  This can go on all
  summer long as the city and county work on road construction.  There's no
way of knowing in advance
  when it will happen.

  I handed out our tenative schedule.  They liked the detailed map.  One
suggestion they had was to
  print up a full 8.5 x 11 maps and post them behind glass at the Phillips
66, McDonalds, Burger King,
  and Conoco.  Post the full-sized map along side our schedules.  We maybe
won't have any repeat
  problems about people being lost then.  We need to also work on our signs
before the start of the
  public season.

  The soccer season starts in March and runs till May 17 - every Saturday.

  Remember that May 17th is the Dirt Ralley.

  During the weekend of April 11, 12, and 13, there will be about 150
Weeblos (sp?) camping out at the
  Park.  They will be camping in the Tractor pull area, east of the treline.
Watch for kids running
  back and forth to the bathrooms at the consession stand.

  That's about it for this month.

  -Scott





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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> Can we still go to the Zoog Farm for observing?

According to Larry Goode at the January general meeting, an
announcement was made that the Zoog Farm was still available.
Might check with Larry though...things seems to change month to month
on dark sky sites.


Rob

David:    I will take care of the Feb. 16th; Sunday
evening star party. Let me know who to contact and
when to be there............    thanks;    Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> I have star parties requested for the following
> dates:
> 
> Feb 15
> Feb 16
> Feb 21
> 
> Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for
> these nights but it seems a bit much to ask them to
> do all three nights.
> 
> How about a couple of volunteers?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
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> 
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Bill -- If Randy will stay with me to do the scout group Sat. night, then
you don't have to be there with me at all.  I hope someone can help you on
Sunday evening the 16th, because I just can't be there...
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: William Boyle [mailto:lostinspacebill@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:46 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


David:    I will take care of the Feb. 16th; Sunday
evening star party. Let me know who to contact and
when to be there............    thanks;    Bill
--- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> I have star parties requested for the following
> dates:
> 
> Feb 15
> Feb 16
> Feb 21
> 
> Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for
> these nights but it seems a bit much to ask them to
> do all three nights.
> 
> How about a couple of volunteers?
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 


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A fellow called me last night looking for a computerized 8 or 10 inch SC. Anyone know of someone who has one for sale?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] star parties


  Bill -- If Randy will stay with me to do the scout group Sat. night, then
  you don't have to be there with me at all.  I hope someone can help you on
  Sunday evening the 16th, because I just can't be there...

  Jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: William Boyle [mailto:lostinspacebill@...]
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:46 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] star parties


  David:    I will take care of the Feb. 16th; Sunday
  evening star party. Let me know who to contact and
  when to be there............    thanks;    Bill
  --- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
  > I have star parties requested for the following
  > dates:
  > 
  > Feb 15
  > Feb 16
  > Feb 21
  > 
  > Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for
  > these nights but it seems a bit much to ask them to
  > do all three nights.
  > 
  > How about a couple of volunteers?
  > David Young
  > dyoung8@...
  > 
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"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>I have star parties requested for the following dates:
>
>Feb 15
>Feb 16
>Feb 21
>
>Jackie Beucher and Bill Boyle are assigned duty for these nights but it seems a bit much to ask them to do all three nights.
>
>How about a couple of volunteers?


>I can take the party on the 21st.  Please send particulars.  Also I'm planning on taking advantage of renewing keyholder training on the 15th and should be available to help that evening.

Thank you,
David Neuenschwander

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That's what I thought.  Hopefully I'll catch him tonight at the Board Meeting.

>>> webmaster@... 02/13/03 04:25PM >>>
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kranz" <SGKRANZ@K...> wrote:
> Can we still go to the Zoog Farm for observing?

According to Larry Goode at the January general meeting, an
announcement was made that the Zoog Farm was still available.
Might check with Larry though...things seems to change month to month
on dark sky sites.


Rob




 

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Just to clear up a quick question.........

Any money given to the ASKC for this fund raising thing will be tax deductable, right?

Besides preparing statements, will the Treasurer, write up letters of donation for tax purposes as well?

Just checking........

When will this whole process start?  At the March Board Meeting will the committee come back and that's the official "start"?

-Scott

Scott -- Any money given to a 501 (C)(3) organization is tax-deductible.....
And, there should be no problem with giving you a receipt (or letter) saying
that you have donated to the ASKC.   I do this for the League quite often,
and did it for the ASKC a number of times over the years.  
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:06 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] proposal from last nights meeting


Just to clear up a quick question.........

Any money given to the ASKC for this fund raising thing will be tax
deductable, right?

Besides preparing statements, will the Treasurer, write up letters of
donation for tax purposes as well?

Just checking........

When will this whole process start?  At the March Board Meeting will the
committee come back and that's the official "start"?

-Scott






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Has there been a Thank-You letter sent to all the people who contribute $50 towards the Dark Sky account?

>>> jbeucher@... 02/14/03 01:08PM >>>
Scott -- Any money given to a 501 (C)(3) organization is tax-deductible.....
And, there should be no problem with giving you a receipt (or letter) saying
that you have donated to the ASKC.   I do this for the League quite often,
and did it for the ASKC a number of times over the years.  
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@....GOV] 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:06 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [ASKC] proposal from last nights meeting


Just to clear up a quick question.........

Any money given to the ASKC for this fund raising thing will be tax
deductable, right?

Besides preparing statements, will the Treasurer, write up letters of
donation for tax purposes as well?

Just checking........

When will this whole process start?  At the March Board Meeting will the
committee come back and that's the official "start"?

-Scott






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There sure should be!   Each person can take a deduction on their taxes for
that....  Of course, if you don't itemize, I don't think there are
charitable contribution deductions allowed.   I may be wrong on that.  
 
Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:00 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] proposal from last nights meeting


Has there been a Thank-You letter sent to all the people who contribute $50
towards the Dark Sky account?

>>> jbeucher@... 02/14/03 01:08PM >>>
Scott -- Any money given to a 501 (C)(3) organization is tax-deductible.....
And, there should be no problem with giving you a receipt (or letter) saying
that you have donated to the ASKC.   I do this for the League quite often,
and did it for the ASKC a number of times over the years.  

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...] 
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:06 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [ASKC] proposal from last nights meeting


Just to clear up a quick question.........

Any money given to the ASKC for this fund raising thing will be tax
deductable, right?

Besides preparing statements, will the Treasurer, write up letters of
donation for tax purposes as well?

Just checking........

When will this whole process start?  At the March Board Meeting will the
committee come back and that's the official "start"?

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Scott and Jackie,
The IRS rules are that you need a letter from the charity if the amount of 
your contribution is $250 or more in one year.  If it is less, then your 
cancelled check is sufficient.   For those people who gave to the various 
camera funds or even the dark sky site (and I am one of them), I think we got 
letters if the amount was large.  

Since ASKC is a 501(c)(3) charity, contributions can be deducted from 
federal, kansas and missouri taxes.  It should save about 28% to 39% 
depending on your tax bracket.  That is unless your contribution exceeds 50% 
of your adjusted gross income.  (we should hope for someone who gives that 
much), in which case, the contribution carries forward to the next year.  

As far as when it will start, is when our committee get the proposal finished 
and the board says ok.  We are meeting at Randy's in about 10 days to start 
the process.  I expect two meetings to get the materials ready.  It is 
possible that we might be ready to ask for approval at the March Board 
meeting, but more likely at the April board meeting.  (I personally will be 
in Arizona, playing golf during the March board meeting, but one of the other 
committee members can present if we are ready.)  If you are ready to send 
money, just let us know and we will be sure to make you the first contact!!!  
BIG CHECKS please. :-)

Tim


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OK... so when this starts, whoever is in charge of writing the letters, is going to get some
exercise then.

Thanks Tim!

TKristl100@... wrote:
> 
> Scott and Jackie,
> The IRS rules are that you need a letter from the charity if the amount of
> your contribution is $250 or more in one year.  If it is less, then your
> cancelled check is sufficient.   For those people who gave to the various
> camera funds or even the dark sky site (and I am one of them), I think we got
> letters if the amount was large.
> 
> Since ASKC is a 501(c)(3) charity, contributions can be deducted from
> federal, kansas and missouri taxes.  It should save about 28% to 39%
> depending on your tax bracket.  That is unless your contribution exceeds 50%
> of your adjusted gross income.  (we should hope for someone who gives that
> much), in which case, the contribution carries forward to the next year.
> 
> As far as when it will start, is when our committee get the proposal finished
> and the board says ok.  We are meeting at Randy's in about 10 days to start
> the process.  I expect two meetings to get the materials ready.  It is
> possible that we might be ready to ask for approval at the March Board
> meeting, but more likely at the April board meeting.  (I personally will be
> in Arizona, playing golf during the March board meeting, but one of the other
> committee members can present if we are ready.)  If you are ready to send
> money, just let us know and we will be sure to make you the first contact!!!
> BIG CHECKS please. :-)
> 
> Tim
> 
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The refractor telescope is now listed on eBay.
As per board instructions, minimum asking price is $200.
As Gil and I set this up, we started the bidding at $150, but the
reserve price is $200. It will not sell unless the reserve price is
met (keeps someone from buying it for $2.00)
The URL is located at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2912188391
Bid away folks!


Rob Robinson

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correspondence for services or donations.



This means of course that information concerning donations of any kind
should be forwarded to the Vice President.



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                         -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:50 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] proposal from last nights meeting



  OK... so when this starts, whoever is in charge of writing the letters, is
going to get some
  exercise then.

  Thanks Tim!

  TKristl100@... wrote:
  >
  > Scott and Jackie,
  > The IRS rules are that you need a letter from the charity if the amount
of
  > your contribution is $250 or more in one year.  If it is less, then your
  > cancelled check is sufficient.   For those people who gave to the
various
  > camera funds or even the dark sky site (and I am one of them), I think
we got
  > letters if the amount was large.
  >
  > Since ASKC is a 501(c)(3) charity, contributions can be deducted from
  > federal, kansas and missouri taxes.  It should save about 28% to 39%
  > depending on your tax bracket.  That is unless your contribution exceeds
50%
  > of your adjusted gross income.  (we should hope for someone who gives
that
  > much), in which case, the contribution carries forward to the next year.
  >
  > As far as when it will start, is when our committee get the proposal
finished
  > and the board says ok.  We are meeting at Randy's in about 10 days to
start
  > the process.  I expect two meetings to get the materials ready.  It is
  > possible that we might be ready to ask for approval at the March Board
  > meeting, but more likely at the April board meeting.  (I personally will
be
  > in Arizona, playing golf during the March board meeting, but one of the
other
  > committee members can present if we are ready.)  If you are ready to
send
  > money, just let us know and we will be sure to make you the first
contact!!!
  > BIG CHECKS please. :-)
  >
  > Tim
  >
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Thanks Rob and Gil for your efforts setting this up.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:19 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Refractor Now on eBay


  The refractor telescope is now listed on eBay.
  As per board instructions, minimum asking price is $200.
  As Gil and I set this up, we started the bidding at $150, but the
  reserve price is $200. It will not sell unless the reserve price is
  met (keeps someone from buying it for $2.00)
  The URL is located at:
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2912188391
  Bid away folks!


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The past couple of months have been pretty dismal for astronomy here in
Kansas City-- cloud cover, moisture-laden skies, etc.

So I have taken on those "not good for anything else" nights to updating the
Neglected Pairs of the Washington Double Star Catalog by making measures off
the digitized plates of the Aladin server of the CDS in Strasbourg, France.
So far, I have submitted about 1,000 measures to Robert Argyle (Webb
Society).  [One benefit of this-- you get your name printed in the notes of
the WDS as a contributor!]

The process is easy and quick (if you have a high-speed line-- it is a much
longer process if you use a dial-up service).

Here's the question:  I have managed to work my way through the neglected
pairs up to 00h 35m RA, and there are only about 33,000 to go on my list....
hoo boy!  Would anyone like to help out by taking a strip of RA and doing
the measures on those cloudy nights when you are home with your favorite
computer?

If so, there are two options to go:  I can post the Excel file of neglected
pairs that the Aladin service can resolve in our Files section, along with a
Word doc on how to do the measures, or as an individual work you can reply
via private email to dwharshaw@... and I'll send you the files.
Depending on how many respond, we may either let each participant choose his
or her own RA strip, or-- if we have a lot of helpers-- I would coordinate
the strips for the group.

Any takers?



Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

"Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies: 'If
we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
          -- V, Weisskopf





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You would probably need to have a meeting somewhere to show people how to do the processes. You might get some interested people started faster if they had some hands on experience after your demonstration.

Just a thought.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Harshaw 
  To: ASKC Group 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:40 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Double Star Project


  The past couple of months have been pretty dismal for astronomy here in
  Kansas City-- cloud cover, moisture-laden skies, etc.

  So I have taken on those "not good for anything else" nights to updating the
  Neglected Pairs of the Washington Double Star Catalog by making measures off
  the digitized plates of the Aladin server of the CDS in Strasbourg, France.
  So far, I have submitted about 1,000 measures to Robert Argyle (Webb
  Society).  [One benefit of this-- you get your name printed in the notes of
  the WDS as a contributor!]

  The process is easy and quick (if you have a high-speed line-- it is a much
  longer process if you use a dial-up service).

  Here's the question:  I have managed to work my way through the neglected
  pairs up to 00h 35m RA, and there are only about 33,000 to go on my list....
  hoo boy!  Would anyone like to help out by taking a strip of RA and doing
  the measures on those cloudy nights when you are home with your favorite
  computer?

  If so, there are two options to go:  I can post the Excel file of neglected
  pairs that the Aladin service can resolve in our Files section, along with a
  Word doc on how to do the measures, or as an individual work you can reply
  via private email to dwharshaw@... and I'll send you the files.
  Depending on how many respond, we may either let each participant choose his
  or her own RA strip, or-- if we have a lot of helpers-- I would coordinate
  the strips for the group.

  Any takers?



  Richard Harshaw
  Kansas City, MO   USA

  "Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
  conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies: 'If
  we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
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Could do, although the Aladin site is remarkably easy to learn.

If anyone wants to see a live demo of how to do this, let me know.  I can
either show it before the meeting Saturday (if I can get a local phone line)
or I could arrange for intersted parties to come to my house some evening
for a cable modem demo (much faster).


  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:53 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Double Star Project


  You would probably need to have a meeting somewhere to show people how to
do the processes. You might get some interested people started faster if
they had some hands on experience after your demonstration.

  Just a thought.
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Dick Harshaw
    To: ASKC Group
    Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:40 AM
    Subject: [ASKC] Double Star Project


    The past couple of months have been pretty dismal for astronomy here in
    Kansas City-- cloud cover, moisture-laden skies, etc.

    So I have taken on those "not good for anything else" nights to updating
the
    Neglected Pairs of the Washington Double Star Catalog by making measures
off
    the digitized plates of the Aladin server of the CDS in Strasbourg,
France.
    So far, I have submitted about 1,000 measures to Robert Argyle (Webb
    Society).  [One benefit of this-- you get your name printed in the notes
of
    the WDS as a contributor!]

    The process is easy and quick (if you have a high-speed line-- it is a
much
    longer process if you use a dial-up service).

    Here's the question:  I have managed to work my way through the
neglected
    pairs up to 00h 35m RA, and there are only about 33,000 to go on my
list....
    hoo boy!  Would anyone like to help out by taking a strip of RA and
doing
    the measures on those cloudy nights when you are home with your favorite
    computer?

    If so, there are two options to go:  I can post the Excel file of
neglected
    pairs that the Aladin service can resolve in our Files section, along
with a
    Word doc on how to do the measures, or as an individual work you can
reply
    via private email to dwharshaw@... and I'll send you the files.
    Depending on how many respond, we may either let each participant choose
his
    or her own RA strip, or-- if we have a lot of helpers-- I would
coordinate
    the strips for the group.

    Any takers?



    Richard Harshaw
    Kansas City, MO   USA

    "Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
    conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies:
'If
    we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
              -- V, Weisskopf





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I just created a new file folder in our Chat page "FILES" section, title
"Aladin Project".  In it, I have placed the Word document that tells how to
use the digitized sky survey to do double star measurements of the neglected
pairs of the Washington Double Star Catalog.

The Excel database is 2,119 kb, but we are almost out of room.  I cannot
upload the database until some of the other and older files are removed.
In the meantime, if you want a copy of the database (in Zip format), let me
know via private email (dwharshaw@...)




Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

"Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies: 'If
we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
          -- V, Weisskopf





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I just deleted all of the insurance files I had posted. There should be over 17 megs of room now.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Harshaw 
  To: ASKC Group 
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 2:05 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] New Files Uploaded


  I just created a new file folder in our Chat page "FILES" section, title
  "Aladin Project".  In it, I have placed the Word document that tells how to
  use the digitized sky survey to do double star measurements of the neglected
  pairs of the Washington Double Star Catalog.

  The Excel database is 2,119 kb, but we are almost out of room.  I cannot
  upload the database until some of the other and older files are removed.
  In the meantime, if you want a copy of the database (in Zip format), let me
  know via private email (dwharshaw@...)




  Richard Harshaw
  Kansas City, MO   USA

  "Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
  conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies: 'If
  we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /Aladin Project/Neglected WDS Pairs All Sky Over 5 Sec.zip 
  Uploaded by : rharshaw20012001 <dwharshaw@...> 
  Description : Neglected WDS Pairs for Aladin Project 

You can access this file at the URL

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Regards,

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Comet NEAT v1 is now heading towards the sun with a close rendezvous 2/18. 
It's tail now rises before the sun in the morning but I could not catch it 
due to clouds this morning. It can also be viewed as it passes the sun with 
Lasco SOHO satellites . Look at spaceweather.com for more information
It will be 6 degrees from the Sun tomorrow and is about -1 magnitude. If the 
sky is real blue and you can block out the sun, maybe we can "catch it." I 
remember in 1965 I failed to see Ikeya-Seki and still don't know how I missed 
seeing it. This might be vindication time.

Dr.Eric Flescher

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /Neat.jpg 
  Uploaded by : stripe1966 <skranz@...> 
  Description : Sun vs NEAT V1 

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Have you all seen the latest SOHO images?  Check out "Neat.jpg" in the 
files section.  The center of the image is the occulting mask covering 
the Sun (the white circle is the Sun's edge).  That huge bright 
fan-tailed thing in the upper right is Comet NEAT.

Thanks Helen, for putting together a fun afternoon!
We didn't bring home a doorprize, but came out ahead on the dogs :-)
Kathy & Gil

Does anyone know how to operate the phone info thing?

It's been a while since I've used    1-800-555-TELL

You used to say "Local Info", but that is not an option anymore.  You
can no longer just push 5400 either.

-Scott

Scott --  I can't remember.   But Shelley Grainger is our person that 
handles that now.  Jackie


At 09:22 AM 2/18/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how to operate the phone info thing?
>
>It's been a while since I've used    1-800-555-TELL
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>You used to say "Local Info", but that is not an option anymore.  You
>can no longer just push 5400 either.
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>-Scott
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Ditto from me!   Now that my brother has some software to play with, maybe 
I'll get him interested in astronomy yet!  Neither one of us had ever been 
to a race track, so that part was interesting...

Thanks, Helen!

Jackie


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>Thanks Helen, for putting together a fun afternoon!
>We didn't bring home a doorprize, but came out ahead on the dogs :-)
>Kathy & Gil
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hmm well looks like maybe they have changed things around. I will call them
today and see what changes they have made and how to acess them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:SGKRANZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:23 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC "Tell Me" phone info


Does anyone know how to operate the phone info thing?

It's been a while since I've used    1-800-555-TELL

You used to say "Local Info", but that is not an option anymore.  You
can no longer just push 5400 either.

-Scott





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I have been doing some house cleaning. I would like to offer my old Sky and 
Telescope magazines for sale. They run from June 1985 through December 
2002. The only issues missing are October 2000, April 2001, December 2001. 
I would like to sell them for 25$. I can deliver them to the Feb meeting of 
the ASKC at UMKC. I think that meeting is this weekend.

You can contact me off this group if you want at mdmyer@...

Thanks.

Mike Myer
Humboldt KS 

Good Luck. We've been giving away the club's old magazines for the past few meetings.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Myer 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:35 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Sky and Telescope Magazines.


  I have been doing some house cleaning. I would like to offer my old Sky and 
  Telescope magazines for sale. They run from June 1985 through December 
  2002. The only issues missing are October 2000, April 2001, December 2001. 
  I would like to sell them for 25$. I can deliver them to the Feb meeting of 
  the ASKC at UMKC. I think that meeting is this weekend.

  You can contact me off this group if you want at mdmyer@...

  Thanks.

  Mike Myer
  Humboldt KS 


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>Good Luck. We've been giving away the club's old magazines for the past 
>few meetings.
>David Young


You are just full of good news. :--) I thought someone might want them, if 
not they will be given to someone or a paper drive.

mike

Maybe someone will want them. Feel free to make an announcement at the GM. Offer them to a school library or on astromart.
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  From: Michael Myer 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sky and Telescope Magazines.



  >Good Luck. We've been giving away the club's old magazines for the past 
  >few meetings.
  >David Young


  You are just full of good news. :--) I thought someone might want them, if 
  not they will be given to someone or a paper drive.

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Ok I have heard back from them. seem the star is no longer doing this so i
have to contact new people and set up a new account. They said they were
sorry we were not notified. I will get in touch with the new people and see
what we need to do. Hopefully we will get to keep our old numbers but I have
a feeling that wont be the case.
Will keep you informed as i find out more.
shelley

hmmmmmm good thing i checked it out i guess.  who knows how long it
hasn't been working.

>>> grangerk@... 02/19/03 01:24PM >>>
Ok I have heard back from them. seem the star is no longer doing this
so i
have to contact new people and set up a new account. They said they
were
sorry we were not notified. I will get in touch with the new people and
see
what we need to do. Hopefully we will get to keep our old numbers but I
have
a feeling that wont be the case.
Will keep you informed as i find out more.
shelley




 

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well i have signed up on this. still havent recorded it yet but will spend a
few mins tomorrow working on it and tring t figure out how it works :)
shelley

Shelley,

         Thanks for the help on this.  we all appreciate you taking the 
reigns on getting it done.

At 06:21 PM 2/19/03 -0600, you wrote:
>well i have signed up on this. still havent recorded it yet but will spend a
>few mins tomorrow working on it and tring t figure out how it works :)
>shelley
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Just thought some of you would like to know Amy Hahns grandmother she has
been caring for passed away. She seems to be doing good. Im glad she has the
baby to distract her now :)
shelley

Shelley -- what, exactly, have you signed up for?   If there is a new
information line, who is it through?  Is there a cost?  We have published
the StarTouch line with our category of #5400 on all our club brochures,
etc.    It's going to be discouraging for us not being able to have that
same number.   What did they say about that?   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangerk@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:22 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ASKC] star touch


well i have signed up on this. still havent recorded it yet but will spend a
few mins tomorrow working on it and tring t figure out how it works :)
shelley



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Jackie it is still the same tell me line. I havent gotten into it far enough
to reall see how it works yet. it is still free. its just alot different. im
going to try to use the same numbers we had before. you cam read more about
it at tellme.com. shelley

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:jbeucher@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:07 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] star touch


Shelley -- what, exactly, have you signed up for?   If there is a new
information line, who is it through?  Is there a cost?  We have published
the StarTouch line with our category of #5400 on all our club brochures,
etc.    It's going to be discouraging for us not being able to have that
same number.   What did they say about that?   Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Shelley Granger [mailto:grangerk@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:22 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ASKC] star touch


well i have signed up on this. still havent recorded it yet but will spend a
few mins tomorrow working on it and tring t figure out how it works :)
shelley



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>Hello all  (Staff at Museums and Planetara, Amatuer Astronomers, and 
>Volunteers),
>
>This Saturday, Feb. 22,  Imaginarium in Alaska and  Fernbank Museum in 
>Georgia will host a live telecast, "Live from the Poker Flat, 
>Alaska".   Next Saturday,  March 1, Maryland Science Center and Chabot 
>Space & Science Center, California will host a second telecast.   Students 
>will interact with aurora researchers and NASA scientists, including NASA 
>Chief Scientist and astronaut, Shannon Lucid, astrophysicists from NASA 
>Goddard, aurora experts from the Geophysical Institute, University of 
>Alaska, the men and women from Poker Flat and NASA Wallops who prepare and 
>fly the rockets, and many more.
>
>If you are able to receive NASA-TV, you may watch the broadcasts live, and 
>host any kind of non-commercial event you like, after REGISTERING FOR FREE 
>with Passport to Knowledge, at http://passporttoknowledge.com/sun .  Since 
>NASA TV may pre-empt scheduled programming for live Agency events, please 
>check the NTV and P2K websites for any late-breaking information.  The new 
>downlink info is as follows:
>
>AMC2, transponder 11C, downlink frequency 3920 Mhz V (Vertical) polarity. 
>Audio almost certainly 6.2 and 6.8.
>AMC2 is the same satellite as NASA-TV is on. This is "one odd transponder 
>over", same polarity, and was chosen based on input from NASA about what 
>they use for backup of the regular channel.  No satellite dish repointing 
>is required, but your technician may need to change some programming.
>
>If you are hosting an event, we would like to hear about it!   Please send 
>us a few sentences and a URL, we can post them on the Sun-Earth Day 
>website (What's Happening in Your Area?).  We also welcome pictures.  If 
>you need further information or resources, please let me know.
>
>Regards,
>
>Carolyn Ng for
>Elaine Lewis, Troy Cline of NASA
>Geoff Haines-Stiles, Passport to Knowledge
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>View Documentary "Auroras - Living with a Star" on PBS and NASA TV - Feb. 
>11, 2003
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>22 and Mar. 1, 2003
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Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:

Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.

Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
PST (12:15 AM Sunday morning for us)

Rob Robinson

Rob -- and I should say also that I have received two emails from persons
who saw that telescope there, and somehow, it must be identified to us, as
they found us on the web, and emailed me to make sure it was all legit.    I
assured them it was....
 
jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:37 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update


Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:

Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.

Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
PST (12:15 AM Sunday morning for us)

Rob Robinson




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Yes, I expect that looks rather suspicious to have a club scope up on ebay...

It's nice to know you have friends looking out for the us by notifying the 
club of our equipment being spirited away.

I don't remember if the scope had a reserve minimum.  ???

jen

At 03:05 PM 2/20/03 -0800, you wrote:
>Rob -- and I should say also that I have received two emails from persons
>who saw that telescope there, and somehow, it must be identified to us, as
>they found us on the web, and emailed me to make sure it was all legit.    I
>assured them it was....
>
>jackie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
>[mailto:webmaster@...]
>Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:37 PM
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update
>
>
>Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
>4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:
>
>Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
>We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.
>
>Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
>the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
>that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
>PST (12:15 AM Sunday morning for us)
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Yes, I think the Board set a $200 min.

Clear Skies,

Randy


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  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:07 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update


  Yes, I expect that looks rather suspicious to have a club scope up on
ebay...

  It's nice to know you have friends looking out for the us by notifying the
  club of our equipment being spirited away.

  I don't remember if the scope had a reserve minimum.  ???

  jen

  At 03:05 PM 2/20/03 -0800, you wrote:
  >Rob -- and I should say also that I have received two emails from persons
  >who saw that telescope there, and somehow, it must be identified to us,
as
  >they found us on the web, and emailed me to make sure it was all legit.
I
  >assured them it was....
  >
  >jackie
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  >[mailto:webmaster@...]
  >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:37 PM
  >To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update
  >
  >
  >Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
  >4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:
  >
  >Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
  >We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.
  >
  >Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
  >the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
  >that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
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Walt,
Thanks for the update.  I've haven't been on ebay lately, so I didn't know
how the bidding was going.

Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 16:36
Subject: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update


> Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
> 4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:
>
> Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
> We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.
>
> Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
> the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
> that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
> PST (12:15 AM Sunday morning for us)
>
> Rob Robinson
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I received an e-mail as well. I think they were checking up on those shifty characters Rob and Gil   ;-)
David Young
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:05 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update


  Rob -- and I should say also that I have received two emails from persons
  who saw that telescope there, and somehow, it must be identified to us, as
  they found us on the web, and emailed me to make sure it was all legit.    I
  assured them it was....

  jackie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
  [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:37 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Refractor on eBay Update


  Don't know how many of you have been watching the bidding on the
  4-1/4" refractor, but here are the stats so far:

  Bid is now up to $232.53, with 1 day and 19 hours left.
  We have had 459 lookers, with 4 bidders.

  Historically on eBay (at least with my experience), the majority of
  the lurkers, watching what is happening, will begin bidding during
  that last few hours. The bidding ends on Saturday (Feb 22) at 10:15
  PST (12:15 AM Sunday morning for us)

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I like others have tried to see if we could spot the comet near the sun. I 
have tried on several days with and without binoculars. No luck and other 
observers have not had luck either. 
I photographed it several times in the last week or so . It will be 
interesting to see how bright it gets as goes on its outbound flight.

Dr.Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...)

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I received an e-mail as well. I think they were checking up on those
shifty characters Rob and Gil   ;-)

Yep - anytime Gil and I get together, you know it's going to get deep.

>Got a request from an amateur astronomer in St. Louis. He is wondering if 
>anyone knows of a program that can gererate a chart with Sunrise and 
>Sunset times, along with the azimuth, for every day of the year for his 
>specific location?

(Yes, I have already told him about USNO and other websites, as well as the 
software programs that also do the same thing, like SkyGlobe and TheSky... 
BUT they are all just for 1 day... not a whole year.) He can't seem to 
understand why the Naval Observatory won't write a new program to make his 
chart and seems to think that one already exists. Anybody know of a program 
or website that can generate a whole years worth of data? Thanks... Vic




Vic Winter
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Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
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StarGarden Foundation - http://www.StarGardenFoundation.org
Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
(660) 747- 9458

They do have one for a full year...... you just got to go deeper.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html

It still doesn't show the sunrise and sunset azimuth though.

>>> h-alpha@... 02/21/03 01:15PM >>>

>Got a request from an amateur astronomer in St. Louis. He is wondering
if 
>anyone knows of a program that can gererate a chart with Sunrise and 
>Sunset times, along with the azimuth, for every day of the year for
his 
>specific location?

(Yes, I have already told him about USNO and other websites, as well as
the 
software programs that also do the same thing, like SkyGlobe and
TheSky... 
BUT they are all just for 1 day... not a whole year.) He can't seem to

understand why the Naval Observatory won't write a new program to make
his 
chart and seems to think that one already exists. Anybody know of a
program 
or website that can generate a whole years worth of data? Thanks...
Vic




Vic Winter
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Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org 
Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
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Astronomy Lab for Windows works ver nicely. It's even used in court cases for the rise and set times, moon phases etc.
 
It has provisions for setting specific locations. I typically print out an entire year of rise and set times for Powell and my house when I use it. It spits out a report in seconds.
David Young
dyoung8@...
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  From: Vic Winter 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:15 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re:Request



  >Got a request from an amateur astronomer in St. Louis. He is wondering if 
  >anyone knows of a program that can gererate a chart with Sunrise and 
  >Sunset times, along with the azimuth, for every day of the year for his 
  >specific location?

  (Yes, I have already told him about USNO and other websites, as well as the 
  software programs that also do the same thing, like SkyGlobe and TheSky... 
  BUT they are all just for 1 day... not a whole year.) He can't seem to 
  understand why the Naval Observatory won't write a new program to make his 
  chart and seems to think that one already exists. Anybody know of a program 
  or website that can generate a whole years worth of data? Thanks... Vic




  Vic Winter
  ICSTARS Astronomy http://www.icstars.com
  Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
  Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
  http://www.icstars.com/ourspaciousskies/oss.html
  StarGarden Foundation - http://www.StarGardenFoundation.org
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Cant remember what all this online ephemeris generate shows but he
might try:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/eph

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Vic Winter <h-alpha@i...> wrote:
> 
> >Got a request from an amateur astronomer in St. Louis. He is
wondering if 
> >anyone knows of a program that can gererate a chart with Sunrise and 
> >Sunset times, along with the azimuth, for every day of the year for
his 
> >specific location?
> 
> (Yes, I have already told him about USNO and other websites, as well
as the 
> software programs that also do the same thing, like SkyGlobe and
TheSky... 
> BUT they are all just for 1 day... not a whole year.) He can't seem to 
> understand why the Naval Observatory won't write a new program to
make his 
> chart and seems to think that one already exists. Anybody know of a
program 
> or website that can generate a whole years worth of data? Thanks... Vic
> 
> 


> 
> 
> Vic Winter
> ICSTARS Astronomy http://www.icstars.com
> Southern Skies Star Party Director -  http://www.sssp.org
> Check out our new Book! Our Spacious Skies - 
> http://www.icstars.com/ourspaciousskies/oss.html
> StarGarden Foundation - http://www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> Astronomical League Reflector Co-Editor -  www.Astroleague.org
> (660) 747- 9458

Title says it all if you object then make it known to his office.

www.astronomy.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/210rjnoz.asp

Ed Flaspoehler, AAAA, Dallas, TX

Went down to help David Neunschwander with a private group at Powell,
only to find out it was cancelled.
The trip was not a total waste though.
I put 2 freeware programs on the computer supporting the 21" monitor:

1) Virtual Lunar Atlas - this is a great tool for those working on, or
will be working on, their lunar award. Very similar to the commercial
lunar program sold by Riti. BUT has many more features. Be sure to
check it out next time you are at the observatory. For those that want
it on their home computers, the URL to get the software is located at:
http://www.astrosurf.com/avl/UK_index.html

2) Mars Previewer II - another great tool than can be used for the
upcoming Mars apparition. Shows ephemeris data, along with a bitmap
image, real time, that can be used for identifying features with
mouseovers. Configurable also to show poles and equator position,
along with telescope orientation.
Software can be downloaded at:
http://www.stargazing.net/AstroTips/english/index.html
Although it is difficult to find the original website, this link will
get you to a website that offers the download. Check under the
category of "cartography", and then scroll down the page until you
find Mars Previewer II. The URL does not work, but the download option
does. About 2 meg file.

Enjoy.........

Hi All:

I'm off to the woods with the scouts.  Three leaders crapped out, so
can't make tonight's meeting.

OD report for meeting.

Dave:

Please ask Randy or Mitch to announce training dates remaining and work
dates in March.  Minimum requirements.  If you can safely operate a
vacuum cleaning, dust rag or basic cleaning materials, the observatory
needs you.  Don't wait for the draft, join today.

Thanks,

Joe

Ooops. Sorry Walt. I didn't know you were planning to help out. The lady cancelled at about 4:00 Thursday. I had checked Thursday and they said they were going cloudy or clear. I was going to go down and do the program.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:16 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Observartory computer


  Went down to help David Neunschwander with a private group at Powell,
  only to find out it was cancelled.
  The trip was not a total waste though.
  I put 2 freeware programs on the computer supporting the 21" monitor:

  1) Virtual Lunar Atlas - this is a great tool for those working on, or
  will be working on, their lunar award. Very similar to the commercial
  lunar program sold by Riti. BUT has many more features. Be sure to
  check it out next time you are at the observatory. For those that want
  it on their home computers, the URL to get the software is located at:
  http://www.astrosurf.com/avl/UK_index.html

  2) Mars Previewer II - another great tool than can be used for the
  upcoming Mars apparition. Shows ephemeris data, along with a bitmap
  image, real time, that can be used for identifying features with
  mouseovers. Configurable also to show poles and equator position,
  along with telescope orientation.
  Software can be downloaded at:
  http://www.stargazing.net/AstroTips/english/index.html
  Although it is difficult to find the original website, this link will
  get you to a website that offers the download. Check under the
  category of "cartography", and then scroll down the page until you
  find Mars Previewer II. The URL does not work, but the download option
  does. About 2 meg file.

  Enjoy.........




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Rob, thanks for the posting on the Mars Preview. Man, it is COOL! Also I had
never seen this site, and it has tons of interesting programs to play with.
Wow! Thanks!

Dave H.

----- Original Message -----
From: <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Observartory computer


> Went down to help David Neunschwander with a private group at Powell,
> only to find out it was cancelled.
> The trip was not a total waste though.
> I put 2 freeware programs on the computer supporting the 21" monitor:
>
> 1) Virtual Lunar Atlas - this is a great tool for those working on, or
> will be working on, their lunar award. Very similar to the commercial
> lunar program sold by Riti. BUT has many more features. Be sure to
> check it out next time you are at the observatory. For those that want
> it on their home computers, the URL to get the software is located at:
> http://www.astrosurf.com/avl/UK_index.html
>
> 2) Mars Previewer II - another great tool than can be used for the
> upcoming Mars apparition. Shows ephemeris data, along with a bitmap
> image, real time, that can be used for identifying features with
> mouseovers. Configurable also to show poles and equator position,
> along with telescope orientation.
> Software can be downloaded at:
> http://www.stargazing.net/AstroTips/english/index.html
> Although it is difficult to find the original website, this link will
> get you to a website that offers the download. Check under the
> category of "cartography", and then scroll down the page until you
> find Mars Previewer II. The URL does not work, but the download option
> does. About 2 meg file.
>
> Enjoy.........
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

Thanks for the tips Rob. I already have the Virtual Moon Atlas. It's great
for those interested in the moon. I'll go get Mars Previewer II.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:16 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Observartory computer


  Went down to help David Neunschwander with a private group at Powell,
  only to find out it was cancelled.
  The trip was not a total waste though.
  I put 2 freeware programs on the computer supporting the 21" monitor:

  1) Virtual Lunar Atlas - this is a great tool for those working on, or
  will be working on, their lunar award. Very similar to the commercial
  lunar program sold by Riti. BUT has many more features. Be sure to
  check it out next time you are at the observatory. For those that want
  it on their home computers, the URL to get the software is located at:
  http://www.astrosurf.com/avl/UK_index.html

  2) Mars Previewer II - another great tool than can be used for the
  upcoming Mars apparition. Shows ephemeris data, along with a bitmap
  image, real time, that can be used for identifying features with
  mouseovers. Configurable also to show poles and equator position,
  along with telescope orientation.
  Software can be downloaded at:
  http://www.stargazing.net/AstroTips/english/index.html
  Although it is difficult to find the original website, this link will
  get you to a website that offers the download. Check under the
  category of "cartography", and then scroll down the page until you
  find Mars Previewer II. The URL does not work, but the download option
  does. About 2 meg file.

  Enjoy.........




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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Ooops. Sorry Walt. I didn't know you were planning to help out. The
lady cancelled at about 4:00 Thursday. I had checked Thursday and they
said they were going cloudy or clear. I was going to go down and do
the program.

Chain of events went like this:
Our dinner plans fell through so had nothing to do.
David didn't have anyone else to help out so I did a spur of the moment
David didn't go home from work, and I left to go down after I got home.
So neither of us knew whether it was cancelled or not.

Hey, like I told David - it was better than coming home and falling
asleep on the couch watching the evening news.

I was wrong on the ending time for the refractor telescope!
It ends in just little more than 45 minutes from now!
AND the bid is up to:

THREE HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE DOLLARS!!!!

We will know what the final bid will be before club meeting so David
can announce it has been sold....
Will post shortly the final sales price.

GIL -> get the packing materials ready.

Looks like pick-a-basket really wants it. It's up to $500.00 now
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:32 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] eBay WOW Update


  I was wrong on the ending time for the refractor telescope!
  It ends in just little more than 45 minutes from now!
  AND the bid is up to:

  THREE HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE DOLLARS!!!!

  We will know what the final bid will be before club meeting so David
  can announce it has been sold....
  Will post shortly the final sales price.

  GIL -> get the packing materials ready.



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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Looks like pick-a-basket really wants it. It's up to $500.00 now
> David Young

And the auction ended with pick-a-basket winning the bid at 

FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS

Awesome, Walt!   Way, way cool.

At 06:16 PM 2/22/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> > Looks like pick-a-basket really wants it. It's up to $500.00 now
> > David Young
>
>And the auction ended with pick-a-basket winning the bid at
>
>FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

There is a great book review of the Winters' book on page 74 of the April Sky & Telescope.

Carroll Iorg


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	I need an email address for Fiske Miles so I can send him an article for
the CM.

Clear Skies,

Randy

FiskeM3@...

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Randy Thompson [mailto:randythm@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:44 PM
  To: ASKC E-Group
  Subject: [ASKC] email address



        I need an email address for Fiske Miles so I can send him an article
for
  the CM.

  Clear Skies,

  Randy



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Thanks Dick.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Dick Harshaw [mailto:dwharshaw@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:56 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] email address


  FiskeM3@...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Randy Thompson [mailto:randythm@...]
    Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:44 PM
    To: ASKC E-Group
    Subject: [ASKC] email address



          I need an email address for Fiske Miles so I can send him an
article
  for
    the CM.

    Clear Skies,

    Randy



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The idea was proposed tonight that we try an ASKC  wives' club - 
Ladies-Only camp-out.

I naturally think this is a fascinating idea to help cure a bit of cabin 
fever, and see just how much fun the gal's can have 
independently.   Obviously, we will be happy to host anything like this out 
here at the Ranch anytime it's fun for ASKC'ers.

I know a number of club members have campers and pop-ups.  We have our 
camper here too, and the place will always have facilities at the Shop and 
Cabin...

We can do a little campfire, get in some good observing - and a lot of 
gabbing.

What I was curious about is if it wouldn't be more fun to wait a few weeks 
until it starts to green-up a bit?
You may remember that in the spring in April, the blue-bells, trilliums, 
jack-in-the-pulpit and dutchmans breeches wild-flowers all start to come 
out, and it's more fun to stomp around in the creeks when it's 
warmer.   The birds come out a little more then too, and we have a lot of 
good daytime fun watching them.  Maybe by April we'll have more deer, 
groundhogs, etc.

- how many of you ladies still remember how to ride a horse?

Sound like fun?
jen

I have two brand new still-in-the-box toner cartridges for a Hewlett-Packard
LaserJet 1100 printer.  I got a new printer and it does not take the 1100
cartridges (of course!).

If anyone uses an 1100 and wants to pick these up cheap ($50 for both), let
me know.  I can bring them to our next meeting or ship them UPS if you pay
the shipping.



Richard Harshaw
Kansas City, MO   USA

"Austrian trains are always late.  A Prussian visitor asks the Austrian
conductor why they bother to print timetables.  The conductor replies: 'If
we didn't, how would we know how late the trains are?"
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While you ladies are having a campout at the ICStars Ranch, the guys can go to that other ranch to the west?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Wives' Club campout?


  The idea was proposed tonight that we try an ASKC  wives' club - 
  Ladies-Only camp-out.

  I naturally think this is a fascinating idea to help cure a bit of cabin 
  fever, and see just how much fun the gal's can have 
  independently.   Obviously, we will be happy to host anything like this out 
  here at the Ranch anytime it's fun for ASKC'ers.

  I know a number of club members have campers and pop-ups.  We have our 
  camper here too, and the place will always have facilities at the Shop and 
  Cabin...

  We can do a little campfire, get in some good observing - and a lot of 
  gabbing.

  What I was curious about is if it wouldn't be more fun to wait a few weeks 
  until it starts to green-up a bit?
  You may remember that in the spring in April, the blue-bells, trilliums, 
  jack-in-the-pulpit and dutchmans breeches wild-flowers all start to come 
  out, and it's more fun to stomp around in the creeks when it's 
  warmer.   The birds come out a little more then too, and we have a lot of 
  good daytime fun watching them.  Maybe by April we'll have more deer, 
  groundhogs, etc.

  - how many of you ladies still remember how to ride a horse?

  Sound like fun?
  jen


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Thanks Carroll, I'll check it out.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Carroll Iorg [mailto:Carroll-Iorg@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:03 PM
  To: ASKC Yahoo Groups
  Subject: [ASKC] Winters' book review in April Sky & Tel


  There is a great book review of the Winters' book on page 74 of the April
Sky & Telescope.

  Carroll Iorg


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Now you're really trying to stir it up David. When the girls read this
they'll stay home so the guys can't have any fun.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:33 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] ASKC Wives' Club campout?


  While you ladies are having a campout at the ICStars Ranch, the guys can
go to that other ranch to the west?

  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 AM
    Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Wives' Club campout?


    The idea was proposed tonight that we try an ASKC  wives' club -
    Ladies-Only camp-out.

    I naturally think this is a fascinating idea to help cure a bit of cabin
    fever, and see just how much fun the gal's can have
    independently.   Obviously, we will be happy to host anything like this
out
    here at the Ranch anytime it's fun for ASKC'ers.

    I know a number of club members have campers and pop-ups.  We have our
    camper here too, and the place will always have facilities at the Shop
and
    Cabin...

    We can do a little campfire, get in some good observing - and a lot of
    gabbing.

    What I was curious about is if it wouldn't be more fun to wait a few
weeks
    until it starts to green-up a bit?
    You may remember that in the spring in April, the blue-bells, trilliums,
    jack-in-the-pulpit and dutchmans breeches wild-flowers all start to come
    out, and it's more fun to stomp around in the creeks when it's
    warmer.   The birds come out a little more then too, and we have a lot
of
    good daytime fun watching them.  Maybe by April we'll have more deer,
    groundhogs, etc.

    - how many of you ladies still remember how to ride a horse?

    Sound like fun?
    jen


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well it seems i will have to learn vxml to access this service :) lucky me i
have a telecom expert sitting on the couch watching tv :) this is a voice
over ip application. I signed up as a developer but will have to wait for
them to call me next week and set it up.
they say its free so we will see.
to read more about this go to

http://studio.tellme.com/help/gettingstarted.html

shelley

Jen -- it does sound like fun!   All except the horse part....  <g>

jackie


At 02:45 AM 2/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>The idea was proposed tonight that we try an ASKC  wives' club -
>Ladies-Only camp-out.
>
>I naturally think this is a fascinating idea to help cure a bit of cabin
>fever, and see just how much fun the gal's can have
>independently.   Obviously, we will be happy to host anything like this out
>here at the Ranch anytime it's fun for ASKC'ers.
>
>I know a number of club members have campers and pop-ups.  We have our
>camper here too, and the place will always have facilities at the Shop and
>Cabin...
>
>We can do a little campfire, get in some good observing - and a lot of
>gabbing.
>
>What I was curious about is if it wouldn't be more fun to wait a few weeks
>until it starts to green-up a bit?
>You may remember that in the spring in April, the blue-bells, trilliums,
>jack-in-the-pulpit and dutchmans breeches wild-flowers all start to come
>out, and it's more fun to stomp around in the creeks when it's
>warmer.   The birds come out a little more then too, and we have a lot of
>good daytime fun watching them.  Maybe by April we'll have more deer,
>groundhogs, etc.
>
>- how many of you ladies still remember how to ride a horse?
>
>Sound like fun?
>jen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I can't believe they have made this so complicated and above the heads
of average people. Surely there is another means of putting messages
on their boards, rather than going through some vxml developer
application. 
Maybe it would be better to just leave this one alone, remove
references of a "StarTouch" or "TellMe" thing, and use the Powell
Observatory answering machine number for any "telephone" messages we
wish to broadcast. I for one would not want to get involved in this
vxml thing. I think the time to learn it and make it work, could be
put to much better use.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Shelley Granger" <grangerk@e...> wrote:
> well it seems i will have to learn vxml to access this service :)
lucky me i
> have a telecom expert sitting on the couch watching tv :) this is a
voice
> over ip application. I signed up as a developer but will have to
wait for
> them to call me next week and set it up.
> they say its free so we will see.
> to read more about this go to
> 
> http://studio.tellme.com/help/gettingstarted.html
> 
> shelley

Or if we don't want people to have to call a Louisburg long distance number
to get this information, perhaps we could have an
answering machine system on the scheduler line giving the caller a few
options (example option 1 might be scheduling questions, option 2 might be
information regarding upcoming events, directions to Powell, etc. etc.

Carroll Iorg
.


----- Original Message -----
From: <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 14:23
Subject: [ASKC] Re: tellme


> I can't believe they have made this so complicated and above the heads
> of average people. Surely there is another means of putting messages
> on their boards, rather than going through some vxml developer
> application.
> Maybe it would be better to just leave this one alone, remove
> references of a "StarTouch" or "TellMe" thing, and use the Powell
> Observatory answering machine number for any "telephone" messages we
> wish to broadcast. I for one would not want to get involved in this
> vxml thing. I think the time to learn it and make it work, could be
> put to much better use.
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Shelley Granger" <grangerk@e...> wrote:
> > well it seems i will have to learn vxml to access this service :)
> lucky me i
> > have a telecom expert sitting on the couch watching tv :) this is a
> voice
> > over ip application. I signed up as a developer but will have to
> wait for
> > them to call me next week and set it up.
> > they say its free so we will see.
> > to read more about this go to
> >
> > http://studio.tellme.com/help/gettingstarted.html
> >
> > shelley
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

You see?
This is why we need our own time away without having to roll our eyes and 
sigh in response to that.



At 09:33 AM 2/23/03 -0600, you wrote:
>While you ladies are having a campout at the ICStars Ranch, the guys can 
>go to that other ranch to the west?
>
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 AM
>   Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Wives' Club campout?

www.LetsTalkStars.com

David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his 
upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.
While its broadcast on KTKT 990am in Tuscon, AZ, they also do a webcast of 
the show - and archive the shows on the website, www.letstalkstars.com

I'm not sure if it goes live, or just by archive, but you can listen online 
at:
http://www.letstalkstars.com/mrs.html

We have been asked to talk about our upcoming Eclipse expedition to 
Antarctica for which David and Wendee will be our guest hosts; and the very 
nice book review we received in Sky and Telescope for Our Spacious Skies.
    * We'll be sure and aim for a good ASKC plug!
Clear skies,
Vic & Jen


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Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
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Sounds like a worderful opportunity.  Great Job.
Tim


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What time, Jen?


At 04:09 PM 2/23/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>www.LetsTalkStars.com
>
>David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his
>upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.
>While its broadcast on KTKT 990am in Tuscon, AZ, they also do a webcast of
>the show - and archive the shows on the website, www.letstalkstars.com
>
>I'm not sure if it goes live, or just by archive, but you can listen online
>at:
>http://www.letstalkstars.com/mrs.html
>
>We have been asked to talk about our upcoming Eclipse expedition to
>Antarctica for which David and Wendee will be our guest hosts; and the very
>nice book review we received in Sky and Telescope for Our Spacious Skies.
>     * We'll be sure and aim for a good ASKC plug!
>Clear skies,
>Vic & Jen
>
>
>JPL / NASA Solar System Ambassador
>ICSTARS Astronomy - www.ICSTARS.com
>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>Southern Skies Star Party - www.SSSP.org
>StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>Astronomical League Reflector Editors - www.Astroleague.org
>660-747-9458
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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I won't be able to listen live but will check the archive once its
available.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:09 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] David Levy's Radio Show


  www.LetsTalkStars.com

  David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his
  upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.
  While its broadcast on KTKT 990am in Tuscon, AZ, they also do a webcast of
  the show - and archive the shows on the website, www.letstalkstars.com

  I'm not sure if it goes live, or just by archive, but you can listen
online
  at:
  http://www.letstalkstars.com/mrs.html

  We have been asked to talk about our upcoming Eclipse expedition to
  Antarctica for which David and Wendee will be our guest hosts; and the
very
  nice book review we received in Sky and Telescope for Our Spacious Skies.
      * We'll be sure and aim for a good ASKC plug!
  Clear skies,
  Vic & Jen


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At the request of our beloved president, and with no objections from
any board member, the board of directors are now listed on the "about
page" on the ASKC website.
You will notice that before each email address, is the prefix "askc",
which will have to be removed when John Q Public wishes to email a
board member.

A little primer on email addresses on websites:

They are a prime candidate for little things know as "robotic email
harvesters". These harvesters are for those snakes in the grass that
collect email addresses for spamming you those wonderful little
delights you get in your email in-box on a daily basis.
 
By using a prefix to the email address, it essentially makes it a
"dead" email address. Harvesters don't know the difference. They will
collect it (they collect millions at a whack and don't check any of
them), and it will bounce, since e.g. "askcdyoung8@..." is not a
legitimate email address. Their spamming software will try to send to
that address, it will bounce, and the email address will be deleted
from the database. They work on numbers, not on if anything works.

Unfortunately, some of us cannot get around the fact that the
harvesters have our email address. For example my
webmaster@... address is spread so far and wide,
there is no way NOT to try and protect it from harvesters. I get a
ratio of about 40 spams a day per 1 legitimate email. 

For those board members that are now having second thoughts about
having their email address publicized on a website, let me know and I
will remove you address immediately.

I do believe though there should be no problem with the way I did it.

Rob Robinson
webmaster

Randy,

Fiske's e-mail address is:  fiskem3@...

Clear skies,
Ron Abbott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Thompson" <randythm@...>
To: "ASKC E-Group" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] email address


>
> I need an email address for Fiske Miles so I can send him an article for
> the CM.
>
> Clear Skies,
>
> Randy
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Sorry the scheduler line is forwarded to my home telephone which is also used for business calls so I can't put a bunch of ASKC stuff on there. As many of you have noticed the answering machine on that line gives out my cell phone number. I get dozens of calls each month on my cell phone during the day from people looking for ASKC information.   Hmmm  I have a separate dedicated fax line. Hmm again. I think there used to be a gizmo available that recognizes fax tones and routes fax calls to the fax machine. Voice calls would go to the answering machine when I'm not here. I'd say about half of the ASKC calls come in during the day. Anyone seen one of these switching gizmos lately? How about an answering machine with multiple caller selected message options?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carroll Iorg 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: tellme


  Or if we don't want people to have to call a Louisburg long distance number
  to get this information, perhaps we could have an
  answering machine system on the scheduler line giving the caller a few
  options (example option 1 might be scheduling questions, option 2 might be
  information regarding upcoming events, directions to Powell, etc. etc.

  Carroll Iorg
  .


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: <webmaster@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 14:23
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: tellme


  > I can't believe they have made this so complicated and above the heads
  > of average people. Surely there is another means of putting messages
  > on their boards, rather than going through some vxml developer
  > application.
  > Maybe it would be better to just leave this one alone, remove
  > references of a "StarTouch" or "TellMe" thing, and use the Powell
  > Observatory answering machine number for any "telephone" messages we
  > wish to broadcast. I for one would not want to get involved in this
  > vxml thing. I think the time to learn it and make it work, could be
  > put to much better use.
  >
  > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Shelley Granger" <grangerk@e...> wrote:
  > > well it seems i will have to learn vxml to access this service :)
  > lucky me i
  > > have a telecom expert sitting on the couch watching tv :) this is a
  > voice
  > > over ip application. I signed up as a developer but will have to
  > wait for
  > > them to call me next week and set it up.
  > > they say its free so we will see.
  > > to read more about this go to
  > >
  > > http://studio.tellme.com/help/gettingstarted.html
  > >
  > > shelley
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Thanks for all the work you put into the web site Rob. As usual your
thinking makes sense to me. I have no objection to being listed. If you
receive a bunch of objections and choose to remove the addresses, that's
fine with me also.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:25 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Update to website


  At the request of our beloved president, and with no objections from
  any board member, the board of directors are now listed on the "about
  page" on the ASKC website.
  You will notice that before each email address, is the prefix "askc",
  which will have to be removed when John Q Public wishes to email a
  board member.

  A little primer on email addresses on websites:

  They are a prime candidate for little things know as "robotic email
  harvesters". These harvesters are for those snakes in the grass that
  collect email addresses for spamming you those wonderful little
  delights you get in your email in-box on a daily basis.

  By using a prefix to the email address, it essentially makes it a
  "dead" email address. Harvesters don't know the difference. They will
  collect it (they collect millions at a whack and don't check any of
  them), and it will bounce, since e.g. "askcdyoung8@..." is not a
  legitimate email address. Their spamming software will try to send to
  that address, it will bounce, and the email address will be deleted
  from the database. They work on numbers, not on if anything works.

  Unfortunately, some of us cannot get around the fact that the
  harvesters have our email address. For example my
  webmaster@... address is spread so far and wide,
  there is no way NOT to try and protect it from harvesters. I get a
  ratio of about 40 spams a day per 1 legitimate email.

  For those board members that are now having second thoughts about
  having their email address publicized on a website, let me know and I
  will remove you address immediately.

  I do believe though there should be no problem with the way I did it.

  Rob Robinson
  webmaster


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I asked David if we could listen to the show live.   Here was his response:

-------------
You cannot link to the live show, but it is archived and comes out on the 
web on Thursday evening or Friday. The link has at least 2 - 3 dozen show 
archived. As long as people are listening to the shows, our sponsor keeps 
them on the web.
We'll talk to you Tuesday.
Wendee & David
--------------

www.letstalkstars.com



At 04:41 PM 2/23/03 -0600, you wrote:
>I won't be able to listen live but will check the archive once its
>available.
>
>Gary
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
>   Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:09 PM
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [ASKC] David Levy's Radio Show
>
>
>   www.LetsTalkStars.com
>
>   David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his
>   upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.
>   While its broadcast on KTKT 990am in Tuscon, AZ, they also do a webcast of
>   the show - and archive the shows on the website, www.letstalkstars.com
>
>   I'm not sure if it goes live, or just by archive, but you can listen
>online
>   at:
>   http://www.letstalkstars.com/mrs.html
>
>   We have been asked to talk about our upcoming Eclipse expedition to
>   Antarctica for which David and Wendee will be our guest hosts; and the
>very
>   nice book review we received in Sky and Telescope for Our Spacious Skies.
>       * We'll be sure and aim for a good ASKC plug!
>   Clear skies,
>   Vic & Jen
>
>
>   JPL / NASA Solar System Ambassador
>   ICSTARS Astronomy - www.ICSTARS.com
>   Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>   Southern Skies Star Party - www.SSSP.org
>   StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>   Astronomical League Reflector Editors - www.Astroleague.org
>   660-747-9458
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Thanks!

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ron & Rosemary Abbott [mailto:rcabbott@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:37 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] email address


  Randy,

  Fiske's e-mail address is:  fiskem3@...

  Clear skies,
  Ron Abbott
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Randy Thompson" <randythm@...>
  To: "ASKC E-Group" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:43 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] email address


  >
  > I need an email address for Fiske Miles so I can send him an article for
  > the CM.
  >
  > Clear Skies,
  >
  > Randy
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Vic & Jen:  From the looks of the past guests it looks like you'll be in some fine company.  The guests on the program seem to be some of the most prominent amateur and professional people in astronomy today.  I'll have fun listening to some of the old programs.  Our own Mike Reynolds (board member of the StarGarden Foundation) is on the program that tributes the Columbia shuttle.

Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy 

  www.LetsTalkStars.com

  David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his 
  upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.



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Thanks for protecting us and the education,  Rob
Tim


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I can hardly wait.  I am hoping to wait for warmer weather though.  april or
may should both be fun months.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy" <webmaster@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 AM
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Wives' Club campout?


> The idea was proposed tonight that we try an ASKC  wives' club -
> Ladies-Only camp-out.
>
> I naturally think this is a fascinating idea to help cure a bit of cabin
> fever, and see just how much fun the gal's can have
> independently.   Obviously, we will be happy to host anything like this
out
> here at the Ranch anytime it's fun for ASKC'ers.
>
> I know a number of club members have campers and pop-ups.  We have our
> camper here too, and the place will always have facilities at the Shop and
> Cabin...
>
> We can do a little campfire, get in some good observing - and a lot of
> gabbing.
>
> What I was curious about is if it wouldn't be more fun to wait a few weeks
> until it starts to green-up a bit?
> You may remember that in the spring in April, the blue-bells, trilliums,
> jack-in-the-pulpit and dutchmans breeches wild-flowers all start to come
> out, and it's more fun to stomp around in the creeks when it's
> warmer.   The birds come out a little more then too, and we have a lot of
> good daytime fun watching them.  Maybe by April we'll have more deer,
> groundhogs, etc.
>
> - how many of you ladies still remember how to ride a horse?
>
> Sound like fun?
> jen
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Has there been a date set yet for the 2003 ICStars Star Party?

I just now sent Fiske my President's message so if your CM is late, I'm the culprit.

Sorry for the delay folks.

David Young
dyoung8@...

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	I have not received any emails today. Has this site been slow or am I
having trouble with my system.

Clear Skies,

Randy

Hi Randy:

Same thoughts here.  My email has been a little screwy lately.  It seems
to be getting locked up during the day and 'Get Msg' is grayed out as if
active.  I usually shutdown communicator and start it over and more
messages pop up.  I attribute it to C and C's syndrome.  Cold and
Clouds.  I did watch a mild stone the other day.  I was at work when the
last American Gran Prix rolled of the line.  Number 2,079,028 to made a
Fairfax.  They will only be built in Canada.  Hope the GM was good the
other night.  Got a little nippy in the tent and sleeping bag.  Didn't
get warmed up until 2:10 in the morning.  That's what I like about
winter camping over winter observing outside.  BIGGER FIRE

Joe

Randy Thompson wrote:

>
>       I have not received any emails today. Has this site been slow or
> am I
> having trouble with my system.
>
> Clear Skies,
>
> Randy
>
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    I have a Gran Prix from that plant. I still love to drive it. It's a '97
with only 30K miles. I just heard that Pontiac is bringing back the GTO.
They were very cool back when I was in High School. The new ones look like
they will live up to the reputation of the BEAST.
     The GM was good, but small crowd. The presentation by Fiske was very
good and informative. I gave a short message about upcoming training and
wrote a piece for Fiske to put in the CM.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
  Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:19 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] What's happening?


  Hi Randy:

  Same thoughts here.  My email has been a little screwy lately.  It seems
  to be getting locked up during the day and 'Get Msg' is grayed out as if
  active.  I usually shutdown communicator and start it over and more
  messages pop up.  I attribute it to C and C's syndrome.  Cold and
  Clouds.  I did watch a mild stone the other day.  I was at work when the
  last American Gran Prix rolled of the line.  Number 2,079,028 to made a
  Fairfax.  They will only be built in Canada.  Hope the GM was good the
  other night.  Got a little nippy in the tent and sleeping bag.  Didn't
  get warmed up until 2:10 in the morning.  That's what I like about
  winter camping over winter observing outside.  BIGGER FIRE

  Joe

  Randy Thompson wrote:

  >
  >       I have not received any emails today. Has this site been slow or
  > am I
  > having trouble with my system.
  >
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  >
  > Randy
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Tisk, tisk, tisk,

Tim


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To Campaign Committee,
I sent out the revised materials today to each of you with 30 copies to 
Carroll for board presentation.
David Young, please put Carroll on board meeting agenda.   I will be in 
Arizona golfing on board meeting day.  Carroll was elected by a 5 to 1 vote 
(he voted against himself) to provide our report.
Tim Kristl


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For those of you planning to attend this year's ASKC Star Party- 
here's some additional information.
The event will be held June 26-29, 2003 at Country Dreams
(www.adport.com/sites/dreams/)-a 400 acre Bed and Breakfast in the 
beautiful Flint Hills of Kansas. Lots of room for camping and 
astronomy gear on site.
Rooms in Country Dreams have already been booked. If you want a roof 
over your head, here are 2 suggestions (both are within 15 miles):

High End- Clover Cliff Ranch Bed and Breakfast
           www.clovercliff.com
           1-800-457-7406
           $85.00-$95.00/night- includes breakfast
Budget-   Country Inn Motel in Marion, KS
           620-382-2147
           $35.00-$50.00/night

Rooms in Clover Cliff sell out quickly. They are already sold out the 
2 weekends after the Star Party. Full details and registration will 
be in April Cosmic Messenger.  Dan Johnson

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy 
> David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his 
> upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.

Got a chance to listen to the show tonight.
Vic & Jen did a bang up job of providing information on the Antarctica
experience and upcoming solar eclipse in Nov.


Rob

Yes, I also listened to it tonight. Thought it was great. They did a
fantastic job.

Gary
  -----Original Message-----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
[mailto:webmaster@...]
  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:33 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: David Levy's Radio Show


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy
  > David and Wendee Levy have invited us (Vic & Jen) to be guests on his
  > upcoming weekly radio show this Tuesday afternoon.

  Got a chance to listen to the show tonight.
  Vic & Jen did a bang up job of providing information on the Antarctica
  experience and upcoming solar eclipse in Nov.


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Are there any plans for an ASKC Messier Marathon? I presume the 
weekend of March 27-28 would be the best time. I'm just putting stuff 
into the CM calendar for the March newsletter (which goes to the 
printer on Monday -- a bit late, unfortunately. :-)  )

Fiske

I have March 28 and 29 in the group calendar and in my scheduling book for the Messier Marathon. I also have a scout group at Powell on both of those nights. I didn't think they would be staying late enough to interfere with any die hard Messier hunters.

Does anyone want to have some special snacks or anything like that for either or both of those nights?

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fiskem3 <FiskeM3@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 4:48 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] ASKC Messier Marathon?


  Are there any plans for an ASKC Messier Marathon? I presume the 
  weekend of March 27-28 would be the best time. I'm just putting stuff 
  into the CM calendar for the March newsletter (which goes to the 
  printer on Monday -- a bit late, unfortunately. :-)  )

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Yup, March 28th scheduled and the 29th as a rain date.  Already on the ASKC egroup calendar.




"fiskem3 " wrote:
> 
> Are there any plans for an ASKC Messier Marathon? I presume the
> weekend of March 27-28 would be the best time. I'm just putting stuff
> into the CM calendar for the March newsletter (which goes to the
> printer on Monday -- a bit late, unfortunately. :-)  )
> 
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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> Does anyone want to have some special snacks or anything like that
for either or both of those nights?

Need to get Johnny Allen down with a big pot of his special chili.
I'll bring the hot peppers.......
Weeeeeeee.........

I have groups booked for March 7, 8, 11, 14, 18, 21, 28, and 29

I need volunteers for March 11 and March 14 

Any takers?

David Young
dyoung8@...

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Can someone tell me David Neuenschwanders' email address?   
 
Jackie

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March 11 and March 14 

I could do 3/14 
What do they want, how big a group?
I trust this is a paying group.
I am not a officially a keyholder yet.
what time etc
anyone else be down there that night?
Let me know the specifics.
Dr.Eric
***

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
> I have groups booked for March 7, 8, 11, 14, 18, 21, 28, and 29
> I need volunteers for March 11 and March 14 

How about March 7th?
Got anybody to do that one?
I can either do, or help out.

Rob

Dennis Budd is assigned that night and I've talked to him. I don't know who Cleassen is and have no number for him. Perhaps Joe will answer my note on that one. I'm sure they would like to have any help you could offer them.

Contact by the way is Greg Day   913-681-8828
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:04 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell Star Parites


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
  > I have groups booked for March 7, 8, 11, 14, 18, 21, 28, and 29
  > I need volunteers for March 11 and March 14 

  How about March 7th?
  Got anybody to do that one?
  I can either do, or help out.

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Scott,

Not sure if anybody ever answered your question...
Its scheduled for October 16-19, 2003. This year Astrofest weekend is also 
the start of Okie-Tex week... so we decided to have it in october... no 
conflicts with anyone!
http://www.icstars.com/Ranch/starparty/


Vic


At 02:59 PM 2/25/03 -0600, you wrote:
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My contact information is as follows:

Paul Claessen
913-254-7688

Is there any chance that someone could trade weekends with me since the 7th
falls on my wedding anniversary?


Paul
paul@...


-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell Star Parites


Dennis Budd is assigned that night and I've talked to him. I don't know who
Cleassen is and have no number for him. Perhaps Joe will answer my note on
that one. I'm sure they would like to have any help you could offer them.

Contact by the way is Greg Day   913-681-8828
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: sc285 <webmaster@...>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:04 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell Star Parites


  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
  > I have groups booked for March 7, 8, 11, 14, 18, 21, 28, and 29
  > I need volunteers for March 11 and March 14

  How about March 7th?
  Got anybody to do that one?
  I can either do, or help out.

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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <paul@c...> wrote:
> Is there any chance that someone could trade weekends with me since
the 7th
> falls on my wedding anniversary?
> 
> 
> Paul

If you want to switch with me, my first duty week is May 24th.
I can do Friday night. Is Dennis doing the program?
What's the game plan.....I am flexible.

Rob

The Claessens are fairly new members:  they joined last December.


 -----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell Star Parites


  Dennis Budd is assigned that night and I've talked to him. I don't know
who Cleassen is and have no number for him. Perhaps Joe will answer my note
on that one. I'm sure they would like to have any help you could offer them.

  Contact by the way is Greg Day   913-681-8828
  David Young
  dyoung8@...
    ----- Original Message -----
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    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:04 PM
    Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell Star Parites


    --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@k...> wrote:
    > I have groups booked for March 7, 8, 11, 14, 18, 21, 28, and 29
    > I need volunteers for March 11 and March 14

    How about March 7th?
    Got anybody to do that one?
    I can either do, or help out.

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Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.

We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week.    Pick which one you want to do. 
March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover two of the nights.

Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights?  I'll take one of them if no one else steps up.
 
David Young
dyoung8@...

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David,

Put me down for March 8 & 11.  Unfortunately I will be out of town on the 14th.

I've been thru the training but I've never run the telescope all by myself.  If a more experienced person could be there too on the 8th I would be a little more confident; otherwise, I'll keep the director's number handy.

-Dave Dembinski


"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.
>
>We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week. � �Pick which one you want to do. 
>March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover two of the nights.
>
>Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights? �I'll take one of them if no one else steps up.
> 
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>dyoung8@...
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:28 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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David,

Put me down for March 8 & 11.  Unfortunately I will be out of town on the
14th.

I've been thru the training but I've never run the telescope all by myself.
If a more experienced person could be there too on the 8th I would be a
little more confident; otherwise, I'll keep the director's number handy.

-Dave Dembinski


"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.
>
>We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week.
� �Pick which one you want to do.
>March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger
Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover
two of the nights.
>
>Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights? �I'll
take one of them if no one else steps up.
>
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
>
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David,

I can help Dave Dembenski with the telescope on Tuesday March 11.

Dave Hudgins
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Cc: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; "David Dembinski" <dembinskid@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


> Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.
>
> We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week.
Pick which one you want to do.
> March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger
Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover
two of the nights.
>
> Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights?  I'll
take one of them if no one else steps up.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Shelley and Dave,

See you on the 8th and 11th.

Thanks!

-Dave Dembinski




DembinskiD@... wrote:

>David,
>
>Put me down for March 8 & 11. �Unfortunately I will be out of town on the 14th.
>
>I've been thru the training but I've never run the telescope all by myself. �If a more experienced person could be there too on the 8th I would be a little more confident; otherwise, I'll keep the director's number handy.
>
>-Dave Dembinski
>
>
>"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
>>Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.
>>
>>We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week. � �Pick which one you want to do. 
>>March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover two of the nights.
>>
>>Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights? �I'll take one of them if no one else steps up.
>> 
>>David Young
>>dyoung8@...
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, sc285 <webmaster@...> wrote:

> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <paul@c...> wrote:
> > Is there any chance that someone could trade weekends with me since
> the 7th
> > falls on my wedding anniversary?
> >
> >
> > Paul
>
> If you want to switch with me, my first duty week is May 24th.
> I can do Friday night. Is Dennis doing the program?
> What's the game plan.....I am flexible.

I agreed I'd be there, but didn't want to do it by myself.

I've given no thought to any program, and don't feel I could "wing"
one on Friday.  That's my major nervousness about it.  The rest of the
basic stuff I can more or less handle.  If you're willing to do the
switch and do the program, Rob, the two of us could handle it.

Dennis

>
> Rob

Hello, scope was shipped 3/05/03. Via UPS Ground

To: Rollin Grey
      193 FourMile Creek Road
       Great Falls, MT.    59404

Should arrive 3/10/03

Tracking #
1ZEBE1960321829339

Shipping charge came to  $46.24 rather than a estimate of $48.78.
There will be a charge of about $12.50 to cover packing materals.


Gil Machin

I have the duty week April 19-25. Kathy and I will be leaving for
the Texsas Star Party on April 25. I will need a cover for 
April 24 and 25,2003.

Team 7 has a duty night May 31,2003 I may be out of town on that 
date. I would like to trade duty Sat.

                                       Gil Machin

larry and I can help with the 11


----- Original Message -----
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To: <KCStarguy@...>
Cc: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; "David Dembinski" <dembinskid@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:13 AM
Subject: [ASKC] star parties


> Hello Dr. Eric. and Dr David.
>
> We have star parties booked for March 8, 11, and 14 during your duty week.
Pick which one you want to do.
> March 8 is a group of adults. March 11 is girl scouts. March 14 is Tiger
Cub scouts. If we get a volunteer or two you guys could split up and cover
two of the nights.
>
> Anyone else out there want to volunteer for one of the other nights?  I'll
take one of them if no one else steps up.
>
> David Young
> dyoung8@...
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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
> I've given no thought to any program, and don't feel I could "wing"
> one on Friday.  That's my major nervousness about it.  The rest of the
> basic stuff I can more or less handle.  If you're willing to do the
> switch and do the program, Rob, the two of us could handle it.
> 
> Dennis

Dennis - I will do the program.
If it is clear, you can handle the scope.

Hi:  Out there:

Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
please send my way.

March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)

If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
(welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.

Please let me know if you plan to be there.

Thanks,

Joe

Me again:

Saturday night I gutted the AIC.  If it wasn't nailed down or being
used, it was removed.  Of the computers, after opening them and seeing
all the mouse crap and nests, they were gutted for parts and scrapped.
Four monitors were found to be in working shape.  A lot of miscellaneous
stuff was removed and is being sorted and stored in the main building.

I would like to mention something about proper equipment.  If you bring
equipment to the observatory for use, please make sure that it meets UL
guidelines.  I noticed a fan in the AIC without a rear guard for the fan
blade.  With the close proximity of loose wires, this is a potential
danger to people and equipment.  Also, please use only approved
replacement parts in observatory equipment.  If no replacement is on
hand, DO NOT substitute.  End what ever you are doing, secure equipment
as best as possible and notify observatory staff.


Good night,

Joe

Ok, Lots of people have replied but I don't know for sure who is doing what. 

I think Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson are doing Friday March 7. Cleassen has swapped duty weeks with Rob.

David D and Shelly G will do Saturday March 8 with Eric.

David Hudgins and David D will do March 11.

Do I have all this right?
  
David Young
dyoung8@...


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I'm planning on being there at least Saturday, maybe both days.

Dick Harshaw

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:20 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] deadline & work


  Hi:  Out there:

  Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
  topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
  Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
  through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
  please send my way.

  March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
  the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
  there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
  Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
  Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
  Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
  Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)

  If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
  (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.

  Please let me know if you plan to be there.

  Thanks,

  Joe


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David,

In my initial enthusiasm about being a new keyholder, I volunteered to do March 8 & 11 Star Parties.  When I got home my wife pointed out that I neglected to take into consideration the fact that I am scheduled to work at my real job on March 11 until 8 PM.

"Then I'll just quit my job!" I said.

"But then we won't have any income" she replied.

"So ..." I said.

<LONG PAUSE>

"You won't be able to buy any more astronomy equipment" she said.

With this in mind, I guess I won't be able to do the March 11 night after all.


I WILL be there on March 8th though.  Do I need to come prepared to do a presentation?  I have one I've done a few times before on amateur astrophotography that I could do.

-Dave Dembinski




"David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:

>Ok, Lots of people have replied but I don't know for sure who is doing what. 
>
>I think Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson are doing Friday March 7. Cleassen has swapped duty weeks with Rob.
>
>David D and Shelly G will do Saturday March 8 with Eric.
>
>David Hudgins and David D will do March 11.
>
>Do I have all this right?
> �
>David Young
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The only change I know of is for Carroll's team > "Atronomy 101"
What other change is there?



Joe Wright wrote:
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> 
> Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
> topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
> through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> please send my way.
> 
> March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
> the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
> there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
> Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
> Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
> 
> If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
> (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
> 
> Please let me know if you plan to be there.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
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Mr. President changed to "Space rocks."   Rita suggest that he give pop
rocks candy that explodes in the mouth to the kids.  I hope that this
topic is meteors and not new wave music.

Joe

Scott Kranz wrote:

>  Joe,
>
> The only change I know of is for Carroll's team > "Atronomy 101"
> What other change is there?
>
>
>
> Joe Wright wrote:
> > Hi:  Out there:
> >
> > Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in
> program
> > topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> > Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have
> went
> > through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> > please send my way.
> >
> > March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid
> yourself,
> > the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.
> If
> > there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such
> as:
> > Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> > Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> > Moving things around outside away from the North side of the
> facility
> > Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
> >
> > If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is
> burning
> > (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
> >
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> >
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> >
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Are "pop rocks" even available any more?  I recall when they first came out
there were lawsuits because some of them exploded so violently they were
chipping enamel on the kids's teeth and the parents sued the company.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:55 AM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] deadline & work


  Mr. President changed to "Space rocks."   Rita suggest that he give pop
  rocks candy that explodes in the mouth to the kids.  I hope that this
  topic is meteors and not new wave music.

  Joe

  Scott Kranz wrote:

  >  Joe,
  >


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What? You mean no more putting a 10 amp fuse in the 1 amp slot on the 12"?
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Wright 
  To: ASKC 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:32 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] equipment


  Me again:

  Saturday night I gutted the AIC.  If it wasn't nailed down or being
  used, it was removed.  Of the computers, after opening them and seeing
  all the mouse crap and nests, they were gutted for parts and scrapped.
  Four monitors were found to be in working shape.  A lot of miscellaneous
  stuff was removed and is being sorted and stored in the main building.

  I would like to mention something about proper equipment.  If you bring
  equipment to the observatory for use, please make sure that it meets UL
  guidelines.  I noticed a fan in the AIC without a rear guard for the fan
  blade.  With the close proximity of loose wires, this is a potential
  danger to people and equipment.  Also, please use only approved
  replacement parts in observatory equipment.  If no replacement is on
  hand, DO NOT substitute.  End what ever you are doing, secure equipment
  as best as possible and notify observatory staff.


  Good night,

  Joe


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I can make my own. All those college chemistry classes were not useless. I wonder if we are covered for that?
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Harshaw 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:02 AM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] deadline & work


  Are "pop rocks" even available any more?  I recall when they first came out
  there were lawsuits because some of them exploded so violently they were
  chipping enamel on the kids's teeth and the parents sued the company.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
    Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:55 AM
    To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [ASKC] deadline & work


    Mr. President changed to "Space rocks."   Rita suggest that he give pop
    rocks candy that explodes in the mouth to the kids.  I hope that this
    topic is meteors and not new wave music.

    Joe

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    >  Joe,
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This is Jackie..  I've been totally wrapped up in League work.   I want to
change my program for aug 23rd to :  "Mars in 3D"  and then... June 28 to:
"Our Home Galaxy".    Can you do that, Scott?  Thanks... Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] deadline & work


Joe,

The only change I know of is for Carroll's team > "Atronomy 101"
What other change is there?



Joe Wright wrote:
> Hi:  Out there:
> 
> Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
> topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
> through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> please send my way.
> 
> March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
> the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
> there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
> Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
> Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
> 
> If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
> (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
> 
> Please let me know if you plan to be there.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
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OK... got Carroll's change, David's change, and Jackie's change.

>>> jbeucher@... 03/06/03 07:43AM >>>
This is Jackie..  I've been totally wrapped up in League work.   I want
to
change my program for aug 23rd to :  "Mars in 3D"  and then... June 28
to:
"Our Home Galaxy".    Can you do that, Scott?  Thanks... Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kranz [mailto:skranz@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:04 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] deadline & work


Joe,

The only change I know of is for Carroll's team > "Atronomy 101"
What other change is there?



Joe Wright wrote:
> Hi:  Out there:
> 
> Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in
program
> topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have
went
> through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> please send my way.
> 
> March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid
yourself,
> the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair. 
If
> there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such
as:
> Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> Moving things around outside away from the North side of the
facility
> Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
> 
> If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is
burning
> (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
> 
> Please let me know if you plan to be there.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
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what time will you guys be there on March 15th & 16th?
Dr.Eric
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Message: 11
  Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:20:20 -0600
  From: Joe Wright <jswright@...>
Subject: deadline & work

Hi:  Out there:

Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
please send my way.

March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)

If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
(welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.

Please let me know if you plan to be there.

Thanks,

Joe

march 8 I will be there
I would like to propose that when information is posted on this board for coverage of events that it should include the following

******
Date of star party:Observatory or ______________
will they still want if cloudy:Y/N
ASKC who will cover: 
Contact person and phone number:
organization/type of group:
how many people expected:
paying group: Y N other:_______
activity type: x next to ones requested
presentation wanted about:
telescope viewing:
other: 
*********
this might help speed up coverage and it could also be used for record keeping. We need to keep better records how many people come through, types of groups etc etc etc
Dr.Eric




  Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:48:44 -0600
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: Re: star parties

Ok, Lots of people have replied but I don't know for sure who is doing what.

I think Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson are doing Friday March 7. Cleassen has swapped duty weeks with Rob.

David D and Shelly G will do Saturday March 8 with Eric.

David Hudgins and David D will do March 11.

Do I have all this right?

David Young
dyoung8@...

This is what I have so far in March. Some of the dates do not have complete details. People sometimes call and reserve but don't have full information or even a start time at the first call. I'll fill in details as they become available

March 6
Westwood School Science night
Jackie Beucher and David Neuenschwander
contact person Bill Thomson  (ASKC member)
5:30 PM

March 7
Powell
Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson
contact Greg Day 681-8828
6:00 PM

March 8
Powell
Dr. David and Dr. Eric 
contact Montgomery 831-9274
20 adults  observing only

March 11
Powell
contact Sue Agnitch 239-9199
Girl scouts
6:30

March 14
Powell
contact John Winslow 621-1813 = O  649-5782 = H
Tiger Cubs
7:30

March 18
Powell
contact Melton 631-5462
Girl Scouts
7:00

March 21
Powell
contact Bowman 88800484

March 28
Powell
contact Wittenburg 684-8685
Boy Scouts

March 29
Powell
contact Bartels 239-0342
Cub Scouts
7:00

David Young
dyoung8@...

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This is an update. Check to see if I have you listed correctly for being at Powell for the indicated nights.

  March 6
  Westwood School Science night
  Jackie Beucher and David Neuenschwander
  contact person Bill Thomson  (ASKC member)262-2284
  5:30 PM

  March 7
  Powell
  Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson
  contact Greg Day 681-8828
  6:00 PM

  March 8
  Powell
  Dr. David and Dr. Eric and Shelly Grainger
  contact Montgomery 831-9274
  20 adults  observing only

  March 11
  Powell
  David Hudgins, Larry and Sharon Goode
  contact Sue Agnitch 239-9199
  Girl scouts
  6:30

  March 14
  Powell
  contact John Winslow 621-1813 = O  649-5782 = H
  Tiger Cubs
  7:30

  March 18
  Powell
  contact Melton 631-5462
  Girl Scouts
  7:00

  March 21
  Powell
  contact Bowman 88800484

  March 28
  Powell
  contact Wittenburg 684-8685
  Boy Scouts

  March 29
  Powell
  contact Bartels 239-0342
  Cub Scouts
  7:00

  David Young
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What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?

I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
experience of my own with this.

Dennis

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
> What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
> still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
> atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?
> I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
> experience of my own with this.
> Dennis

The road to Powell past the concession stand is not in good shape.  
You still use the same old road and entrance as always, but the 
surface of the road changes frequently: most days it is rather bumpy, 
with many rocks on it.  As you make the final turn towards the 
observatory, make sure you stay on the right-most road, as the left 
one passes to the North of the observatory, and may not be easy for 
cars to cut over to the parking area.  The final approach to the 
parking area near the maintenance shed narrows quite a bit as it 
passes over a drain culvert, and has quite a bump to it.  This is 
marked with a blue and white barrel on each side.  I would suggest 
(at the expense of those observing) that you keep your headlights on 
until you pass this point, or you may end up in the large hole on 
either side of the road.  On Wednesday, due to the recent snow, the 
road was becoming quite muddy, and rather slippery.  With the storm 
we got Wednesday night, and the warmer weather today, I imagine this 
has become even worse.  The only good news is that the parking area 
is basically the same.  :)
For the upcoming private groups, it might be a good idea to have one 
of the staff members stay out by the last turn towards Powell, (just 
West of the blue and white barrels) to direct traffic up the right-
hand road.  It is far less obvious where to proceed than it used to 
be.

If you have questions about this, feel free to call me at 
913-498-0659.

-Mitch Glaze

Joe & Mitch and/or Dave -- Where is the sign that we had that we put out
down there that showed Powell Observatory, "thata way"? 
In the earlier days of the observatory, we put that sign down there at the
turn to the observatory, because you could keep going straight into the
woods.   Is it still around?   No one would have to stand down there if it
was...
 
Jackie

[Beucher, Jackie] 
 -----Original Message-----
From: glaze_m [mailto:mglaze@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:12 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: new road



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
> What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
> still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
> atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?
> I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
> experience of my own with this.
> Dennis

The road to Powell past the concession stand is not in good shape.  
You still use the same old road and entrance as always, but the 
surface of the road changes frequently: most days it is rather bumpy, 
with many rocks on it.  As you make the final turn towards the 
observatory, make sure you stay on the right-most road, as the left 
one passes to the North of the observatory, and may not be easy for 
cars to cut over to the parking area.  The final approach to the 
parking area near the maintenance shed narrows quite a bit as it 
passes over a drain culvert, and has quite a bump to it.  This is 
marked with a blue and white barrel on each side.  I would suggest 
(at the expense of those observing) that you keep your headlights on 
until you pass this point, or you may end up in the large hole on 
either side of the road.  On Wednesday, due to the recent snow, the 
road was becoming quite muddy, and rather slippery.  With the storm 
we got Wednesday night, and the warmer weather today, I imagine this 
has become even worse.  The only good news is that the parking area 
is basically the same.  :)
For the upcoming private groups, it might be a good idea to have one 
of the staff members stay out by the last turn towards Powell, (just 
West of the blue and white barrels) to direct traffic up the right-
hand road.  It is far less obvious where to proceed than it used to 
be.

If you have questions about this, feel free to call me at 
913-498-0659.

-Mitch Glaze



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I will be a bit late on Saturday. Have to Ride the Harley in a parade if
it's not raining. And, I have Powell Work Day on my calendar for all day the
16th.

Clear Skies,

Randy


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:20 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] deadline & work


  Hi:  Out there:

  Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in program
  topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
  Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
  through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
  please send my way.

  March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid yourself,
  the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.  If
  there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such as:
  Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
  Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
  Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
  Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)

  If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is burning
  (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.

  Please let me know if you plan to be there.

  Thanks,

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You still use the old entrance. The speed bump is still there. The road is in less than wonderful shape.
David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dennis Budd 
  To: askc@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:07 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] new road


  What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
  still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
  atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?

  I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
  experience of my own with this.

  Dennis



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Hi Dave,

I believe Keith may have already passed this info along to you, but just
in case, the attached document is the announcement for the MARAC
meeting next month.  Your asteroid research group might find this of interest.
Bruce
David Young
dyoung8@...

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Hmmm. I think I saw one of signs I made behind the hutch in the classroom. If not maybe some of the old signs are in the storage shed.

David Young
dyoung8@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beucher, Jackie 
  To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:04 PM
  Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: new road


  Joe & Mitch and/or Dave -- Where is the sign that we had that we put out
  down there that showed Powell Observatory, "thata way"? 
  In the earlier days of the observatory, we put that sign down there at the
  turn to the observatory, because you could keep going straight into the
  woods.   Is it still around?   No one would have to stand down there if it
  was...

  Jackie

  [Beucher, Jackie] 
  -----Original Message-----
  From: glaze_m [mailto:mglaze@...]
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:12 PM
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: new road



  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
  > What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
  > still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
  > atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?
  > I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
  > experience of my own with this.
  > Dennis

  The road to Powell past the concession stand is not in good shape.  
  You still use the same old road and entrance as always, but the 
  surface of the road changes frequently: most days it is rather bumpy, 
  with many rocks on it.  As you make the final turn towards the 
  observatory, make sure you stay on the right-most road, as the left 
  one passes to the North of the observatory, and may not be easy for 
  cars to cut over to the parking area.  The final approach to the 
  parking area near the maintenance shed narrows quite a bit as it 
  passes over a drain culvert, and has quite a bump to it.  This is 
  marked with a blue and white barrel on each side.  I would suggest 
  (at the expense of those observing) that you keep your headlights on 
  until you pass this point, or you may end up in the large hole on 
  either side of the road.  On Wednesday, due to the recent snow, the 
  road was becoming quite muddy, and rather slippery.  With the storm 
  we got Wednesday night, and the warmer weather today, I imagine this 
  has become even worse.  The only good news is that the parking area 
  is basically the same.  :)
  For the upcoming private groups, it might be a good idea to have one 
  of the staff members stay out by the last turn towards Powell, (just 
  West of the blue and white barrels) to direct traffic up the right-
  hand road.  It is far less obvious where to proceed than it used to 
  be.

  If you have questions about this, feel free to call me at 
  913-498-0659.

  -Mitch Glaze



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The file announcing the subject meeting is in the ASKC file area on Yahoo.
David Young
dyoung8@...

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /announcement.doc 
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dyoung8us <dyoung8@...>
 

Hello, scope was shipped 3/05/03. Via UPS Ground

To: Rollin Grey
      193 FourMile Creek Road
       Great Falls, MT.    59404

Should arrive 3/10/03

I can't read!!!!!!!!!!!! The correct tracking# is

1ZE8E1960321829339   


Tracking #
1ZEBE1960321829339     The  B is a 8 sorry for the missread/

Shipping charge came to  $46.24 rather than a estimate of $48.78.
There will be a charge of about $12.50 to cover packing materals.


Gil Machin

PS   The differance will be refunded.
 
The $12.50 will be handled by ASKC. This was a all in one message.

Jackie:

I think Dave is right about the signs.  The one I made for the MSRC
disappeared some time ago.  I have my eye open for more real-estate
signs to make new ones.  Let me clarify that last statement.  I will not
be running through yards at night collecting for sale signs.

Joe

"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:

>  Joe & Mitch and/or Dave -- Where is the sign that we had that we put
> out
> down there that showed Powell Observatory, "thata way"?
> In the earlier days of the observatory, we put that sign down there at
> the
> turn to the observatory, because you could keep going straight into
> the
> woods.   Is it still around?   No one would have to stand down there
> if it
> was...
>
> Jackie
>
> [Beucher, Jackie]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glaze_m [mailto:mglaze@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: new road
>
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
> > What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
>
> > still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
> > atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?
> > I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
>
> > experience of my own with this.
> > Dennis
>
> The road to Powell past the concession stand is not in good shape.
> You still use the same old road and entrance as always, but the
> surface of the road changes frequently: most days it is rather bumpy,
> with many rocks on it.  As you make the final turn towards the
> observatory, make sure you stay on the right-most road, as the left
> one passes to the North of the observatory, and may not be easy for
> cars to cut over to the parking area.  The final approach to the
> parking area near the maintenance shed narrows quite a bit as it
> passes over a drain culvert, and has quite a bump to it.  This is
> marked with a blue and white barrel on each side.  I would suggest
> (at the expense of those observing) that you keep your headlights on
> until you pass this point, or you may end up in the large hole on
> either side of the road.  On Wednesday, due to the recent snow, the
> road was becoming quite muddy, and rather slippery.  With the storm
> we got Wednesday night, and the warmer weather today, I imagine this
> has become even worse.  The only good news is that the parking area
> is basically the same.  :)
> For the upcoming private groups, it might be a good idea to have one
> of the staff members stay out by the last turn towards Powell, (just
> West of the blue and white barrels) to direct traffic up the right-
> hand road.  It is far less obvious where to proceed than it used to
> be.
>
> If you have questions about this, feel free to call me at
> 913-498-0659.
>
> -Mitch Glaze
>
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By time I get loaded with equipment, I plan to be there by 10:00.

Joe



KCStarguy@... wrote:

>  what time will you guys be there on March 15th & 16th?
> Dr.Eric
> **
> Message: 11
>   Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:20:20 -0600
>   From: Joe Wright <jswright@...>
> Subject: deadline & work
>
> Hi:  Out there:
>
> Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in
> program
> topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
> through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> please send my way.
>
> March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid
> yourself,
> the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.
> If
> there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such
> as:
> Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
> Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
>
> If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is
> burning
> (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
>
> Please let me know if you plan to be there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
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Joe,

Yep, I plan to be there Saturday March 15 to help with the cleanup/fixup.

Dave H.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Wright" <jswright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] March 15th & 16th


> By time I get loaded with equipment, I plan to be there by 10:00.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> KCStarguy@... wrote:
>
> >  what time will you guys be there on March 15th & 16th?
> > Dr.Eric
> > **
> > Message: 11
> >   Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:20:20 -0600
> >   From: Joe Wright <jswright@...>
> > Subject: deadline & work
> >
> > Hi:  Out there:
> >
> > Well, the deadline has come and gone.  I received two changes in
> > program
> > topics.  I will be posting the changes shortly and sending them to
> > Scott.  I will also be updating the list of new people that have went
> > through the training.  If anyone has a good emial address for Nick,
> > please send my way.
> >
> > March 15th & 16th is slated as work days at Powell.  Don't kid
> > yourself,
> > the observatory NEEDS YOU.    We will be attacking the dome repair.
> > If
> > there is enough help there are other things that need tending, such
> > as:
> > Cleaning and disinfecting the AIC
> > Cleaning the classroom (carpet fresh, cob webs and the like)
> > Moving things around outside away from the North side of the facility
> > Electrical work (new switches, lamp replacement)
> >
> > If you can hold a mop, dust rag, vacuum, tell when something is
> > burning
> > (welding-fire watch) lift and have fun, come on down.
> >
> > Please let me know if you plan to be there.
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> > Thanks,
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OK.  I give.  what does MARAC stand for?

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:49 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] MARAC meeting


Hi Dave,

I believe Keith may have already passed this info along to you, but just
in case, the attached document is the announcement for the MARAC
meeting next month.  Your asteroid research group might find this of
interest.
Bruce
David Young
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The sign I'm referring to was made 10+ years ago, and putting it down at the
bend of the road was part of procedures for key-holders on public nights.
I think I did see it stuck somewhere within the last 2 years....?    J.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Wright [mailto:jswright@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: new road


Jackie:

I think Dave is right about the signs.  The one I made for the MSRC
disappeared some time ago.  I have my eye open for more real-estate
signs to make new ones.  Let me clarify that last statement.  I will not
be running through yards at night collecting for sale signs.

Joe

"Beucher, Jackie" wrote:

>  Joe & Mitch and/or Dave -- Where is the sign that we had that we put
> out
> down there that showed Powell Observatory, "thata way"?
> In the earlier days of the observatory, we put that sign down there at
> the
> turn to the observatory, because you could keep going straight into
> the
> woods.   Is it still around?   No one would have to stand down there
> if it
> was...
>
> Jackie
>
> [Beucher, Jackie]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glaze_m [mailto:mglaze@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: new road
>
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Budd <nitewing@k...> wrote:
> > What's the status of this new road that the park is building?  Do we
>
> > still go in the old entrance?  Do we still get forced through that
> > atrocious speed bump?  Is the road after that in semi-decent shape?
> > I haven't been to Powell since the Leonids in November, so I have no
>
> > experience of my own with this.
> > Dennis
>
> The road to Powell past the concession stand is not in good shape.
> You still use the same old road and entrance as always, but the
> surface of the road changes frequently: most days it is rather bumpy,
> with many rocks on it.  As you make the final turn towards the
> observatory, make sure you stay on the right-most road, as the left
> one passes to the North of the observatory, and may not be easy for
> cars to cut over to the parking area.  The final approach to the
> parking area near the maintenance shed narrows quite a bit as it
> passes over a drain culvert, and has quite a bump to it.  This is
> marked with a blue and white barrel on each side.  I would suggest
> (at the expense of those observing) that you keep your headlights on
> until you pass this point, or you may end up in the large hole on
> either side of the road.  On Wednesday, due to the recent snow, the
> road was becoming quite muddy, and rather slippery.  With the storm
> we got Wednesday night, and the warmer weather today, I imagine this
> has become even worse.  The only good news is that the parking area
> is basically the same.  :)
> For the upcoming private groups, it might be a good idea to have one
> of the staff members stay out by the last turn towards Powell, (just
> West of the blue and white barrels) to direct traffic up the right-
> hand road.  It is far less obvious where to proceed than it used to
> be.
>
> If you have questions about this, feel free to call me at
> 913-498-0659.
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OK, I looked at the document.   Now I know.....  Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: Beucher, Jackie [mailto:jbeucher@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:26 AM
To: 'ASKC@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [ASKC] MARAC meeting


OK.  I give.  what does MARAC stand for?

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:49 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] MARAC meeting


Hi Dave,

I believe Keith may have already passed this info along to you, but just
in case, the attached document is the announcement for the MARAC
meeting next month.  Your asteroid research group might find this of
interest.
Bruce
David Young
dyoung8@...

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Greating listing Dave
thanks

Dr.Eric
***
Message: 9
  Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:26:48 -0600
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Subject: star parties


This is what I have so far in March. Some of the dates do not have complete details. People sometimes call and reserve but don't have full information or even a start time at the first call. I'll fill in details as they become available

March 6
Westwood School Science night
Jackie Beucher and David Neuenschwander
contact person Bill Thomson  (ASKC member)
5:30 PM

March 7
Powell
Dennis Budd and Rob Robinson
contact Greg Day 681-8828
6:00 PM

March 8
Powell
Dr. David and Dr. Eric 
contact Montgomery 831-9274
20 adults  observing only

March 11
Powell
contact Sue Agnitch 239-9199
Girl scouts
6:30

March 14
Powell
contact John Winslow 621-1813 = O  649-5782 = H
Tiger Cubs
7:30

March 18
Powell
contact Melton 631-5462
Girl Scouts
7:00

March 21
Powell
contact Bowman 88800484

March 28
Powell
contact Wittenburg 684-8685
Boy Scouts

March 29
Powell
contact Bartels 239-0342
Cub Scouts
7:00

David Young
dyoung8@...

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I'm going to guess,   Mid-American Regional Astronomy Convention?

Vic got a call the other day in response to a request for Nasa 
materials.  He'd applied on a web-form to have them delivered to 
ICSTARS.  So, he got a call from some JPL employee & NASA Core 
representative who wanted to know what department ICSTARS stood for.
Obviously, it had to be an acronym for something!  - maybe we should think 
one up.

jen



>OK.  I give.  what does MARAC stand for?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:49 PM
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ASKC] MARAC meeting
>
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>I believe Keith may have already passed this info along to you, but just
>in case, the attached document is the announcement for the MARAC
>meeting next month.  Your asteroid research group might find this of
>interest.
>Bruce
>David Young
>dyoung8@...
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You almost got it -- Mid-America Regional Astro-Physics Conference!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS Astronomy [mailto:webmaster@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:08 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] MARAC


I'm going to guess,   Mid-American Regional Astronomy Convention?

Vic got a call the other day in response to a request for Nasa 
materials.  He'd applied on a web-form to have them delivered to 
ICSTARS.  So, he got a call from some JPL employee & NASA Core 
representative who wanted to know what department ICSTARS stood for.
Obviously, it had to be an acronym for something!  - maybe we should think 
one up.

jen



>OK.  I give.  what does MARAC stand for?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Young [mailto:dyoung8@...]
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:49 PM
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ASKC] MARAC meeting
>
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>I believe Keith may have already passed this info along to you, but just
>in case, the attached document is the announcement for the MARAC
>meeting next month.  Your asteroid research group might find this of
>interest.
>Bruce
>David Young
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Dave I don't think I will be able to make it tonight. My kids have strep and
Kevin has to work late. If he gets home earlier I will get there but he says
he will probably be really late. Shelley