4 pm Powell training today? - per askc calendar....

what's that all about - curious minds want to know  :)

Mike Sterling

The January 2009 issue has been sent. The high resolution version has been uploaded to the file area.

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DSS Friday ???  Anybody going?

Moon sets 2009 Jan 02   23h19m (Azimuth=273°)

Mike Sterling

I believe that is a Darrick deal. Better contact him directly. I've been 
kidnapped to a dinner party.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mikekansascity@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: [ASKC] 4 pm Powell training today?


>4 pm Powell training today? - per askc calendar....
>
> what's that all about - curious minds want to know  :)
>
> Mike Sterling
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /keyholder schedule 09.xls 
  Uploaded by : earthdude123 <earthdude123@...> 
  Description : Keyholder duty weeks 09 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/keyholder%20schedule%2009.xls 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

earthdude123 <earthdude123@...>
 

I would like a copy�of just the (2) - 400 item lists in Constellation order.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: "s.kranz1@..." <s.kranz1@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:08:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Source for Herschel 2500 by Constellation


Thanks Ron! Thanks everyone!

I got what I needed. I'm now in the process of stripping the Herschel 400 and Herschel II objects out of the list to see what's left over. When I get done, would anyone else like a copy?

One of the guys who is working on the New NGC/IC Project contacted me with a great list with all the modernizations included.

-Scott

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- 
From: "Ron Abbott" <rcabbott@swbell. net> 
Scott:

Go to the Saguaro Astronomy Club's database. They have a complete
listing of all 2500 Herschels, sorted by constellation.

The site is: http://www.virtualc olony.com/ sac/index. html

Enjoy.

Ron Abbott

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I'm here and no one else is. Come join the fun!!! Call me if you want
to make sure I'm still here. 

No trainiees eh?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] an open Powell


> I'm here and no one else is. Come join the fun!!! Call me if you want
> to make sure I'm still here. 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Eric came out. I believe he has to get ready for work or something. We
had a great time. 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> No trainiees eh?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:43 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] an open Powell
> 
> 
> > I'm here and no one else is. Come join the fun!!! Call me if you want
> > to make sure I'm still here. 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

tempting...

--- On Thu, 1/1/09, mikekansascity@... <mikekansascity@aol.com> wrote:


From: mikekansascity@... <mikekansascity@...>
Subject: [ASKC] DSS Friday ???
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 1:49 PM






DSS Friday ??? Anybody going?

Moon sets 2009 Jan 02 23h19m (Azimuth=273� )

Mike Sterling
 














      

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Which Eric? Bogatin or Flecher?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:55 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: an open Powell


> Eric came out. I believe he has to get ready for work or something. We
> had a great time. 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> No trainiees eh?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:43 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] an open Powell
>> 
>> 
>> > I'm here and no one else is. Come join the fun!!! Call me if you want
>> > to make sure I'm still here. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ------------------------------------
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Bogatin
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Which Eric? Bogatin or Flecher?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:55 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: an open Powell
> 
> 
> > Eric came out. I believe he has to get ready for work or something. We
> > had a great time. 
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >>
> >> No trainiees eh?
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@>
> >> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: [ASKC] an open Powell
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > I'm here and no one else is. Come join the fun!!! Call me if
you want
> >> > to make sure I'm still here. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> >
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

One of our members asked for some back issues of the electronic CM. I currently have only 2008 issues on the web plus of course the January 2009 issue. If you are missing some issues that are not on the web site keep in mind that Marcia has every issue she has ever done backed up on a backup hard drive and on cd. I currently plan to keep the current year and one previous year on the web site. At the end of 2009 I will delete 2008 issues en mass.


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headed to powell at 11:45 to finish destroying the computer.

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http://www.kgs.ku.edu/Magellan/WaterWell/index.html
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: [ASKC] CM


> One of our members asked for some back issues of the electronic CM. I 
> currently have only 2008 issues on the web plus of course the January 2009 
> issue. If you are missing some issues that are not on the web site keep in 
> mind that Marcia has every issue she has ever done backed up on a backup 
> hard drive and on cd. I currently plan to keep the current year and one 
> previous year on the web site. At the end of 2009 I will delete 2008 
> issues en mass.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

It's alive.

Between the three of us we remembered how to reprogram the one damn
bit that was bad in the dec code. 

All is well again.

Signing off from the slow as molasses internet connection at Powell.

Thanks for the fix ... I have decided not to open Powell tomorrow 
(Saturday) night, due to the forecast.  Any keyholder who for some 
reason wants to go down there and open it up is welcome.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "dyoung8us" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> It's alive.
> 
> Between the three of us we remembered how to reprogram the one damn
> bit that was bad in the dec code. 
> 
> All is well again.
> 
> Signing off from the slow as molasses internet connection at Powell.
>

oops. A link for a guy looking for information on water wells got mixed in 
with a message about the cm. Sorry about the confusion (unless you want to 
look at well logs) 

Darrick found the Uranometria in the AIC.

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The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid NASA in the 
detecting of red spots on the moon which may affect exploration of the 
satellite.  The United States Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is 
distributing the devices designed by Trident Engineering.

Way cool - when will we hear more?
Mike Sterling


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:29 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Past






The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid NASA in the
detecting of red spots on the moon which may affect exploration of the
satellite. The United States Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is
distributing the devices designed by Trident Engineering.

I want to thank the people who fixed the EPROM programming on the 30"
telescope. I hosted a group of 4 family members on Friday night and,
in spite of the best efforts of some really pushy clouds, we got to
observe the Moon and a bunch of Messier objects including M-42. The
telescope behaved well and the dome moved smoothly.

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick

Red spots?   Could these be from David or Joe's new Xmas toy???  
I thought they would leave green spots.  ;-)



-------------- Original message from Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>: -------------- 


> The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid NASA in the 
> detecting of red spots on the moon which may affect exploration of the 
> satellite. The United States Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is 
> distributing the devices designed by Trident Engineering. 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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The key word here is "past"...how long has it been since
the ASKC was known as the "Kansas City Astronomy Club"?

Do a Google search on "Project Moon-Blink". Click on the
first item listed (the .PDF file at ntrs.nasa.gov).

Very funny, Joe. Where'd you dig this up, anyway? ;-D

-JC


--- Mike Sterling wrote:
>
> Way cool - when will we hear more?
> Mike Sterling
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Wright
> Subject: [ASKC] Past
> 
> The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid
> NASA in the detecting of red spots on the moon which may
> affect exploration of the satellite. The United States
> Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is distributing
> the devices designed by Trident Engineering.
>

I'm tellin ........

signed,
easy mark mike


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cravens <John.Cravens@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 1:54 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Past






The key word here is "past"...how long has it been since
the ASKC was known as the "Kansas City Astronomy Club"?

Do a Google search on "Project Moon-Blink". Click on the
first item listed (the .PDF file at ntrs.nasa.gov).

Very funny, Joe. Where'd you dig this up, anyway? ;-D

-JC

--- Mike Sterling wrote:
>
> Way cool - when will we hear more?
> Mike Sterling
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Wright
> Subject: [ASKC] Past
>
> The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid
> NASA in the detecting of red spots on the moon which may
> affect exploration of the satellite. The United States
> Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is distributing
> the devices designed by Trident Engineering.
>

I seem to recall the name was changed in the '70s.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Past


> The key word here is "past"...how long has it been since
> the ASKC was known as the "Kansas City Astronomy Club"?
> 
> Do a Google search on "Project Moon-Blink". Click on the
> first item listed (the .PDF file at ntrs.nasa.gov).
> 
> Very funny, Joe. Where'd you dig this up, anyway? ;-D
> 
> -JC
> 
> 
> --- Mike Sterling wrote:
>>
>> Way cool - when will we hear more?
>> Mike Sterling
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joseph Wright
>> Subject: [ASKC] Past
>> 
>> The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid
>> NASA in the detecting of red spots on the moon which may
>> affect exploration of the satellite. The United States
>> Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is distributing
>> the devices designed by Trident Engineering.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

rolled the scope out in the driveway ... great moon
  yes dad yelled at me - but I told him "rolling" doesn't count as 
"lifting"   :)
Mike Sterling

Actually, even though the Moon-Blink project is over, the search for
Transient Lunar Phenomena (TLP) which was what the Moon-Blink project
was all about, is still carried on by both the Association of Lunar
and Planetary Observers (A.L.P.O), and the American Lunar Society (A.L.S).
Out-gassing is still reported using the methods of blinking areas of
the moon.
Any search on the ALPO or ALS websites will give recent articles on
their efforts along with observing reports and analysis.

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...> wrote:
>
> The key word here is "past"...how long has it been since
> the ASKC was known as the "Kansas City Astronomy Club"?
> 
> Do a Google search on "Project Moon-Blink". Click on the
> first item listed (the .PDF file at ntrs.nasa.gov).
> 
> Very funny, Joe. Where'd you dig this up, anyway? ;-D
> 
> -JC
> 
> 
> --- Mike Sterling wrote:
> >
> > Way cool - when will we hear more?
> > Mike Sterling
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Wright
> > Subject: [ASKC] Past
> > 
> > The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid
> > NASA in the detecting of red spots on the moon which may
> > affect exploration of the satellite. The United States
> > Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is distributing
> > the devices designed by Trident Engineering.
> >
>

Mike,
But with that slope on your driveway, there isn't much difference!!!!
Tim Kristl
PS  You can't bull____ those who have been to your house.
 
 
In a message dated 1/3/2009 5:38:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
mikekansascity@... writes:

 
 
 
rolled the scope out in the driveway ... great moon
yes dad yelled at me  - but I told him "rolling" doesn't count as 
"lifting" :)
Mike  Sterling

 

**************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)


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sometimes ya just gotta man-up.........................   :)


-----Original Message-----
From: TKristl100@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] aaaahhhh ...






Mike,
But with that slope on your driveway, there isn't much difference!!!!
Tim Kristl
PS You can't bull____ those who have been to your house.


In a message dated 1/3/2009 5:38:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mikekansascity@... writes:

rolled the scope out in the driveway ... great moon
yes dad yelled at me - but I told him "rolling" doesn't count as
"lifting" :)
Mike Sterling

**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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been playin around this site tonight - great info & graphics - lots for 
kids also ...
http://hubblesite.org/

the coming Webb infra red scope in 2013 launch - mega wows to look 
forward to ...
orbit - 1.5 million km from Earth at L2 Point   (1,500,000 x .621 = 
931,500 miles)


Hubble whirls around Earth at 5 miles per second. If a car could travel 
that fast, a road trip from Los Angeles to New York City would take 
only 10 minutes

Sterling

Must have been changed�before mid '70s. It was ASKC when I joined.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 4:42:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Past


I seem to recall the name was changed in the '70s.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@ comcast.net>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:54 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Past

> The key word here is "past"...how long has it been since
> the ASKC was known as the "Kansas City Astronomy Club"?
> 
> Do a Google search on "Project Moon-Blink". Click on the
> first item listed (the .PDF file at ntrs.nasa.gov) .
> 
> Very funny, Joe. Where'd you dig this up, anyway? ;-D
> 
> -JC
> 
> 
> --- Mike Sterling wrote:
>>
>> Way cool - when will we hear more?
>> Mike Sterling
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joseph Wright
>> Subject: [ASKC] Past
>> 
>> The Kansas City Astronomy Club has been selected to aid
>> NASA in the detecting of red spots on the moon which may
>> affect exploration of the satellite. The United States
>> Naval Academy, in cooperation with NASA is distributing
>> the devices designed by Trident Engineering.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>
 

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sc285 wrote:
> Actually, even though the Moon-Blink project is over, 
Gene Tandy is identified as the party in KC with the Moon Blink setup.  
I wonder if Gil might recall it, or anyone else?  I do remember that 
Gene had a lot of equipment in his basement but not much about anything 
specific.  He always had nice toys, a lot of which he built.

Jim

I'll have the full story at the GM.  If I get the scanner going, I scan 
for anyone else to read.

KC Star story Nov 22, 1964

Joe



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Hi all,

I had Powell reserved for tonight for my daughter and her Science Olympiad partner but, due to the clouds and her partner backing out on tonight, we will not be going to Powell this evening.

If it clears up and anybody wants to use the observatory this evening, it's all yours.

Rick Henderson

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 The rest of the week is open if anyone wants to reserve Powell.

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I'm getting ready to upgrade to a 2" diagonal on my 9.25 SCT.  Before I 
do, I thought I would ask a question or two. They all sound similar.  
Should I be looking for something special or are they all pretty much 
the same?  Williams Optics has one for $158.00.  It comes with a 1,25" 
adaptor and an adaptor of a SCT included.  ((Dielectric Coating  2" 
Carbon Fiber Diagonal))

I have the William Optics 2" carbon fiber diagonal and it's very 
nice. The SCT adapter is nice and is extra cost with most other 
brands of diagonal.

-Marty

At 08:37 PM 1/4/2009, Charles Kennedy wrote:
>I'm getting ready to upgrade to a 2" diagonal on my 9.25 SCT.  Before I
>do, I thought I would ask a question or two. They all sound similar.
>Should I be looking for something special or are they all pretty much
>the same?  Williams Optics has one for $158.00.  It comes with a 1,25"
>adaptor and an adaptor of a SCT included.  ((Dielectric Coating  2"
>Carbon Fiber Diagonal))


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thanks Marty

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> I have the William Optics 2" carbon fiber diagonal and it's very 
> nice. The SCT adapter is nice and is extra cost with most other 
> brands of diagonal.
> 
> -Marty
> 
> At 08:37 PM 1/4/2009, Charles Kennedy wrote:
> >I'm getting ready to upgrade to a 2" diagonal on my 9.25 SCT.  
Before I
> >do, I thought I would ask a question or two. They all sound 
similar.
> >Should I be looking for something special or are they all pretty 
much
> >the same?  Williams Optics has one for $158.00.  It comes with a 
1,25"
> >adaptor and an adaptor of a SCT included.  ((Dielectric Coating  2"
> >Carbon Fiber Diagonal))
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I use Celestron's 2-inch mirror diagonal (part #93519)
with my C-8, and have no qualms with it. No dielectric
coating or carbon fiber, but it does include the 1.25"
and SCT adapters. Adorama has it for $65, plus $6 for
shipping. I've not compared different brands, mind you;
for me, economy is always of prime concern when buying
optical equipment. :\

-JC
-Poverty Gulch, USA


--- Charles Kennedy wrote:
>
> I'm getting ready to upgrade to a 2" diagonal on my
> 9.25 SCT.  Before I do, I thought I would ask a question
> or two.  They all sound similar.  Should I be looking for
> something special or are they all pretty much the same?
> Williams Optics has one for $158.00.  It comes with a 1,25"
> adaptor and an adaptor of a SCT included.  ((Dielectric
> Coating  2" Carbon Fiber Diagonal))
>

  I have a William Diagonal and they are great.The carbon fiber is new 
to me, mine is Aluminummmm. Orion has the same thing 30:00 cheaper.It 
seema to me that mine came with borh slide in and screw on fittings.



Larry G

To all:  the Williams CF diag. is only on the side plates. The rest is Al. 
The CF looks neet but is just cosmetics.

Gil Machin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "larry goode" <lagoode916@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Diagonal


>
>  I have a William Diagonal and they are great.The carbon fiber is new
> to me, mine is Aluminummmm. Orion has the same thing 30:00 cheaper.It
> seema to me that mine came with borh slide in and screw on fittings.
>
>
>
> Larry G
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Thanks everyone.  As cheap as I try to be, I should have waited a 
little longer for the feedback, but I got to work today and decided I 
just needed to order the darn thing.  thanks everyone.

Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
 
 
Thanks
David 
 
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David,
If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have  
one.  
I can bring it to the board meeting.
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
dfox@... writes:

 
 
 
Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens  with?


Thanks
David 

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**************New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)


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I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
clear, but I lost my fight). 

When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up.

I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work.

Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
shutter control box plugged in.  After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
the light came on and the shutter closed.  

You might want to try this if you have this problem.

I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 

On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
the 260 to 270 area.  Now if someone could figure out what to do 
about that moon.

John 

That works for for me;-)....
 
Thanks Tim!!

David M. Fox



 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TKristl100@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter



David,
If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have 
one. 
I can bring it to the board meeting.
Tim


In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
dfox@ventureindustr <mailto:dfox%40ventureindustrial.com> ial.com writes:

Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?

Thanks
David 

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John,
I have found that if you wait a week or two the moon will go away, but don't wait too long or it will come back to bug you again!
;-)



-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: -------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That lower limit switch has given us an occasional problem in cold weather.  Thank goodness it is not very often as I have forgotten about it till you mentioned it.
dt


-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: -------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science 
Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?

This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
opportunities.

Thanks,

Joe

I might be able to come by and help a little.
 

David M. Fox




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello, everyone!   I have  had to stop getting the egroup messages at work -
too much email coming in there!   So, I will only be checking my personal
email address from now on.   If there is something that I need to know in a
timely manner, please.. Contact me at work.   jbeucher@....
Otherwise, I might not see it for days, depending on how days go!

 

Thanks,

 

Jackie Beucher

M31@...



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tim,
Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?

I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.

Right? No ? maybe? 
dave
________________________________________
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TKristl100@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter

David,
If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have 
one. 
I can bring it to the board meeting.
Tim


In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
dfox@ventureindustrial.com writes:

Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?

Thanks
David 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/) 
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
7:20 PM

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 

I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't 
and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use 
a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when 
refilling the fuel.

Just a thought to pass along.

Joe



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'll bring mine to the board meeting. I'm pretty sure Tim has one to go with 
his L series zoom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <dfox@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter


> Tim,
> Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?
>
> I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.
>
> Right? No ? maybe?
> dave
> ________________________________________
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> TKristl100@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
>
> David,
> If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have
> one.
> I can bring it to the board meeting.
> Tim
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> dfox@... writes:
>
> Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/)
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
> 7:20 PM
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Sounds like an interesting gig. Remind me when the date gets closer. You 
know how I forget things.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Last CALL


> Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science
> Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
>
> This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science
> opportunities.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:

David Fox
Stuart Riley
David Young


A box lunch will be provided for you.

Thanks guys.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Anything special we should bring? Rocks, scopes?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Last CALL


>I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
> Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:
> 
> David Fox
> Stuart Riley
> David Young
> 
> 
> A box lunch will be provided for you.
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Some one is going to ask...Uninterruptible Power Supply.  Nice things. 
Common for surveillance and alarm systems.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] UPS-Generator use-Trailers


>I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't
> and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use
> a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when
> refilling the fuel.
>
> Just a thought to pass along.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

 I might be able to help. What do we have to do?
Eric



2a. Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))

Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science 
Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?

This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
opportunities.

Thanks,

Joe


 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 8:39 am
Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4449










There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
    From: dtrent@...
1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
    From: dtrent@...

2a. Last CALL    
    From: Joseph Wright
2b. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David
2c. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David Young
2d. Re: Last CALL    
    From: Joseph Wright
2e. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David Young

3. Egroup messages    
    From: Jackie Beucher

4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
    From: David
4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
    From: Joseph Wright
4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
    From: David Young
4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
    From: George  Allen


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
    Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 am ((PST))

John,
I have found that if you wait a week or two the moon will go away, but don't 
wait too long or it will come back to bug you again!
;-)



-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
-------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
    Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:58 am ((PST))

That lower limit switch has given us an occasional problem in cold weather.  
Thank goodness it is not very often as I have forgotten about it till you 
mentioned it.
dt


-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
-------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2a. Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))

Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science 
Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?

This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
opportunities.

Thanks,

Joe


Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
2b. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:20 pm ((PST))

I might be able to come by and help a little.
 

David M. Fox




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
2c. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:47 pm ((PST))

Sounds like an interesting gig. Remind me when the date gets closer. You 
know how I forget things.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Last CALL


> Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science
> Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
>
> This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science
> opportunities.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
2d. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:17 pm ((PST))

I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:

David Fox
Stuart Riley
David Young


A box lunch will be provided for you.

Thanks guys.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
2e. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 pm ((PST))

Anything special we should bring? Rocks, scopes?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Last CALL


>I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
> Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:
> 
> David Fox
> Stuart Riley
> David Young
> 
> 
> A box lunch will be provided for you.
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>


Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
3. Egroup messages
    Posted by: "Jackie Beucher" m31@... jackiebeucher
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:51 pm ((PST))

Hello, everyone!   I have  had to stop getting the egroup messages at work -
too much email coming in there!   So, I will only be checking my personal
email address from now on.   If there is something that I need to know in a
timely manner, please.. Contact me at work.   jbeucher@....
Otherwise, I might not see it for days, depending on how days go!

 

Thanks,

 

Jackie Beucher

M31@...



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:21 pm ((PST))

Tim,
Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?

I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.

Right? No ? maybe? 
dave
________________________________________
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TKristl100@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter

David,
If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have 
one. 
I can bring it to the board meeting.
Tim


In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
dfox@... writes:

Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?

Thanks
David 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/) 
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
7:20 PM

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 



Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:27 pm ((PST))

I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't 
and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use 
a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when 
refilling the fuel.

Just a thought to pass along.

Joe



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:39 pm ((PST))

I'll bring mine to the board meeting. I'm pretty sure Tim has one to go with 
his L series zoom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <dfox@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter


> Tim,
> Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?
>
> I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.
>
> Right? No ? maybe?
> dave
> ________________________________________
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> TKristl100@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
>
> David,
> If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have
> one.
> I can bring it to the board meeting.
> Tim
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> dfox@... writes:
>
> Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/)
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
> 7:20 PM
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers
    Posted by: "George  Allen" geonjod@... geonjod
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:34 pm ((PST))

Some one is going to ask...Uninterruptible Power Supply.  Nice things. 
Common for surveillance and alarm systems.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] UPS-Generator use-Trailers


>I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't
> and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use
> a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when
> refilling the fuel.
>
> Just a thought to pass along.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



Messages in this topic (12)







------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links



------------------------------------------------------------------------




 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 I might be able to help. What do we have to do?
Eric



2a. Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))

Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science 
Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?

This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
opportunities.

Thanks,

Joe


 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 8:39 am
Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4449










There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
    From: dtrent@...
1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
    From: dtrent@...

2a. Last CALL    
    From: Joseph Wright
2b. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David
2c. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David Young
2d. Re: Last CALL    
    From: Joseph Wright
2e. Re: Last CALL    
    From: David Young

3. Egroup messages    
    From: Jackie Beucher

4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
    From: David
4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
    From: Joseph Wright
4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
    From: David Young
4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
    From: George  Allen


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
    Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 am ((PST))

John,
I have found that if you wait a week or two the moon will go away, but don't 
wait too long or it will come back to bug you again!
;-)



-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
-------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
    Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:58 am ((PST))

That lower limit switch has given us an occasional problem in cold weather.  
Thank goodness it is not very often as I have forgotten about it till you 
mentioned it.
dt


-------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
-------------- 


> I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with all 
> of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks semi 
> clear, but I lost my fight). 
> 
> When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start up. 
> 
> I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't work. 
> 
> Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with the 
> shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 times 
> the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> 
> You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> 
> I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> 
> On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; even in 
> the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> about that moon. 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2a. Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))

Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science 
Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?

This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
opportunities.

Thanks,

Joe


Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
2b. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:20 pm ((PST))

I might be able to come by and help a little.
 

David M. Fox




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2c. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:47 pm ((PST))

Sounds like an interesting gig. Remind me when the date gets closer. You 
know how I forget things.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:58 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Last CALL


> Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the Science
> Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
>
> This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science
> opportunities.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



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________________________________________________________________________
2d. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:17 pm ((PST))

I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:

David Fox
Stuart Riley
David Young


A box lunch will be provided for you.

Thanks guys.



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2e. Re: Last CALL
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 pm ((PST))

Anything special we should bring? Rocks, scopes?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Last CALL


>I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
> Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:
> 
> David Fox
> Stuart Riley
> David Young
> 
> 
> A box lunch will be provided for you.
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>


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3. Egroup messages
    Posted by: "Jackie Beucher" m31@... jackiebeucher
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:51 pm ((PST))

Hello, everyone!   I have  had to stop getting the egroup messages at work -
too much email coming in there!   So, I will only be checking my personal
email address from now on.   If there is something that I need to know in a
timely manner, please.. Contact me at work.   jbeucher@....
Otherwise, I might not see it for days, depending on how days go!

 

Thanks,

 

Jackie Beucher

M31@...



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4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:21 pm ((PST))

Tim,
Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?

I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.

Right? No ? maybe? 
dave
________________________________________
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TKristl100@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter

David,
If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have 
one. 
I can bring it to the board meeting.
Tim


In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
dfox@... writes:

Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?

Thanks
David 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/) 
Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
7:20 PM

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**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making 
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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________________________________________________________________________
4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:27 pm ((PST))

I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't 
and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use 
a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when 
refilling the fuel.

Just a thought to pass along.

Joe



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________________________________________________________________________
4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:39 pm ((PST))

I'll bring mine to the board meeting. I'm pretty sure Tim has one to go with 
his L series zoom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <dfox@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter


> Tim,
> Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?
>
> I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.
>
> Right? No ? maybe?
> dave
> ________________________________________
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> TKristl100@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
>
> David,
> If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for focusing, I have
> one.
> I can bring it to the board meeting.
> Tim
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> dfox@... writes:
>
> Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/)
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 1/5/2009
> 7:20 PM
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



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________________________________________________________________________
4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers
    Posted by: "George  Allen" geonjod@... geonjod
    Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:34 pm ((PST))

Some one is going to ask...Uninterruptible Power Supply.  Nice things. 
Common for surveillance and alarm systems.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] UPS-Generator use-Trailers


>I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who haven't
> and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when I use
> a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment when
> refilling the fuel.
>
> Just a thought to pass along.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



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Here is the website explaining a little bit more:

Eliz

http://www.sciencepioneers.org/pageDetail.asp?id=31

Nth-ing this.  I can probably be there.  What do they want?

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, KCStarguy@... wrote:
>
> 
>  I might be able to help. What do we have to do?
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 2a. Last CALL
>     Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))
> 
> Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the 
Science 
> Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
> 
> This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
> opportunities.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 8:39 am
> Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4449
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are 12 messages in this issue.
> 
> Topics in this digest:
> 
> 1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
>     From: dtrent@...
> 1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem    
>     From: dtrent@...
> 
> 2a. Last CALL    
>     From: Joseph Wright
> 2b. Re: Last CALL    
>     From: David
> 2c. Re: Last CALL    
>     From: David Young
> 2d. Re: Last CALL    
>     From: Joseph Wright
> 2e. Re: Last CALL    
>     From: David Young
> 
> 3. Egroup messages    
>     From: Jackie Beucher
> 
> 4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
>     From: David
> 4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
>     From: Joseph Wright
> 4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter    
>     From: David Young
> 4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers    
>     From: George  Allen
> 
> 
> Messages
> 
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___
> 1a. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
>     Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 am ((PST))
> 
> John,
> I have found that if you wait a week or two the moon will go away, 
but don't 
> wait too long or it will come back to bug you again!
> ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with 
all 
> > of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks 
semi 
> > clear, but I lost my fight). 
> > 
> > When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start 
up. 
> > 
> > I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't 
work. 
> > 
> > Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with 
the 
> > shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 
times 
> > the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> > 
> > You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> > 
> > I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> > capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> > 
> > On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; 
even in 
> > the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> > about that moon. 
> > 
> > John 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (3)
> 
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> 1b. Re: Powell Shutter Problem
>     Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:58 am ((PST))
> 
> That lower limit switch has given us an occasional problem in cold 
weather.  
> Thank goodness it is not very often as I have forgotten about it 
till you 
> mentioned it.
> dt
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>: 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I was at Powell last night trying to fight with the moon (with 
all 
> > of these cloudy nights I will try almost any night that looks 
semi 
> > clear, but I lost my fight). 
> > 
> > When I tried to close the shutter on the dome it wouldn't start 
up. 
> > 
> > I tried tapping the motor with a broom handle, which didn't 
work. 
> > 
> > Finally I tried working the lever on the lower limit switch with 
the 
> > shutter control box plugged in. After moving the lever 2 or 3 
times 
> > the light came on and the shutter closed. 
> > 
> > You might want to try this if you have this problem. 
> > 
> > I also saw on the motor that there is a round thingy (solinoid? 
> > capacitor?) that has worked lose and should be reattached. 
> > 
> > On a brighter note the dome didn't have any problems moving; 
even in 
> > the 260 to 270 area. Now if someone could figure out what to do 
> > about that moon. 
> > 
> > John 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (3)
> 
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> 
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___
> 2a. Last CALL
>     Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:58 pm ((PST))
> 
> Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the 
Science 
> Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
> 
> This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science 
> opportunities.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (5)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 2b. Re: Last CALL
>     Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:20 pm ((PST))
> 
> I might be able to come by and help a little.
>  
> 
> David M. Fox
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (5)
> 
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> 2c. Re: Last CALL
>     Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:47 pm ((PST))
> 
> Sounds like an interesting gig. Remind me when the date gets 
closer. You 
> know how I forget things.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:58 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Last CALL
> 
> 
> > Anyone want to join me at UMKC on January 31st, 10-1 for the 
Science
> > Pioneers Teachers Investigating Science Resources Expo?
> >
> > This is a workshop for area teachers to find out about science
> > opportunities.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (5)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 2d. Re: Last CALL
>     Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:17 pm ((PST))
> 
> I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
> Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:
> 
> David Fox
> Stuart Riley
> David Young
> 
> 
> A box lunch will be provided for you.
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (5)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 2e. Re: Last CALL
>     Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:54 pm ((PST))
> 
> Anything special we should bring? Rocks, scopes?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Last CALL
> 
> 
> >I will put the following names on the paper work. for the Science 
> > Pioneers Teacher Expo at UMKC:
> > 
> > David Fox
> > Stuart Riley
> > David Young
> > 
> > 
> > A box lunch will be provided for you.
> > 
> > Thanks guys.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (5)
> 
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> 
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___
> 3. Egroup messages
>     Posted by: "Jackie Beucher" m31@... jackiebeucher
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:51 pm ((PST))
> 
> Hello, everyone!   I have  had to stop getting the egroup messages 
at work -
> too much email coming in there!   So, I will only be checking my 
personal
> email address from now on.   If there is something that I need to 
know in a
> timely manner, please.. Contact me at work.   jbeucher@...
> Otherwise, I might not see it for days, depending on how days go!
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Jackie Beucher
> 
> M31@...
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (1)
> 
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> 
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___
> 4a. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
>     Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:21 pm ((PST))
> 
> Tim,
> Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?
> 
> I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.
> 
> Right? No ? maybe? 
> dave
> ________________________________________
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of
> TKristl100@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
> 
> David,
> If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for 
focusing, I have 
> one. 
> I can bring it to the board meeting.
> Tim
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> dfox@... writes:
> 
> Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
> 
> Thanks
> David 
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/) 
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 
1/5/2009
> 7:20 PM
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is 
making 
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (12)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 4b. UPS-Generator use-Trailers
>     Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:27 pm ((PST))
> 
> I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who 
haven't 
> and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope when 
I use 
> a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment 
when 
> refilling the fuel.
> 
> Just a thought to pass along.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (12)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 4c. Re: OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
>     Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:39 pm ((PST))
> 
> I'll bring mine to the board meeting. I'm pretty sure Tim has one 
to go with 
> his L series zoom.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David" <dfox@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
> 
> 
> > Tim,
> > Not sure that we are talking about the same thing?
> >
> > I'm talking DSLR camera, not a camera to Telescope hookup.
> >
> > Right? No ? maybe?
> > dave
> > ________________________________________
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of
> > TKristl100@...
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:01 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] OT - Canon 1.4X teleconverter
> >
> > David,
> > If you are talking about a lens that goes on a camera for 
focusing, I have
> > one.
> > I can bring it to the board meeting.
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/5/2009 11:06:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > dfox@... writes:
> >
> > Anyone have a 1.4X that I can test out a new lens with?
> >
> > Thanks
> > David
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - _http://www.avg.htt_ (http://www.avg.com/)
> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1877 - Release Date: 
1/5/2009
> > 7:20 PM
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is 
making
> > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (12)
> 
_____________________________________________________________________
___
> 4d. Re: UPS-Generator use-Trailers
>     Posted by: "George  Allen" geonjod@... geonjod
>     Date: Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:34 pm ((PST))
> 
> Some one is going to ask...Uninterruptible Power Supply.  Nice 
things. 
> Common for surveillance and alarm systems.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] UPS-Generator use-Trailers
> 
> 
> >I am sure you may have thought of this before, but for those who 
haven't
> > and use a generator in remote areas, I use a UPS on my scope 
when I use
> > a generator.  It eliminates the need to shut down the equipment 
when
> > refilling the fuel.
> >
> > Just a thought to pass along.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Messages in this topic (12)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Does somebody want to let David Young know that his computer has left 
orbit for Jupiter and got lost in a time warp, thinking it is 
Halloween of 2010.

Hal seems to have taken over the clock of his computer to change the 
time stamp, so his emails go out with the date shown below.

I know!  He wants to have his messages at the most recent position in 
the in-box sorted for date for another 10-11 months.

Clear skies,
jen

At 03:45 PM 10/31/2010, you wrote:

>I think Shelly Granger was involved.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Stewart" <<mailto:AB0VM%40kc.rr.com>AB0VM@...>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
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Windoze struck a while back. I used the calendar associated with the system 
clock to look up a date. I must have clicked ok or apply instead of cancel 
when I was done. I think I sent out about 15 messages dated 2010.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jen Winter - ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] IYA 2009 Handouts


> Does somebody want to let David Young know that his computer has left
> orbit for Jupiter and got lost in a time warp, thinking it is
> Halloween of 2010.
>
> Hal seems to have taken over the clock of his computer to change the
> time stamp, so his emails go out with the date shown below.
>
> I know!  He wants to have his messages at the most recent position in
> the in-box sorted for date for another 10-11 months.
>
> Clear skies,
> jen
>
> At 03:45 PM 10/31/2010, you wrote:
>
>>I think Shelly Granger was involved.
>>
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>
> Jen Dudley Winter -
>
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>
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> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
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Yes, I sent you a message about that during that time period.  It put 
your messages out of order on my system.  I thought maybe you completed 
your time warp computations and engaged a worm hole effect.  Or...your 
Delorian have a new vegimatic drive.

Joe

David Young wrote:

> Windoze struck a while back. I used the calendar associated with the 
> system
> clock to look up a date. I must have clicked ok or apply instead of 
> cancel
> when I was done. I think I sent out about 15 messages dated 2010.
>


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I have several eyepieces that do not now and never did have rubber eyecups. These eyepieces and several of the 2" Nagler eyepieces at Powell that do not have rubber on them have scratched my $450 eyeglass lenses numerous times over the past few years. Mice have been knawing the rubber off of the Powell eyepieces and some never had any rubber. I remembered a long time ago I had some stuff to dip pliers and screwdrivers in to put rubber coatings back on. Today I went searching and bought a container of something called Plasti Dip. I used it to put a rubber coating on the end of two 1 1/4" eyepieces as an experiment and it worked very nicely. No more scrcatched eyeglasses from these eyepieces!. I'm going to apply a rubber coating to the end of the rest of my eyepieces that don't already have rubber guards! There's enough in the container of black stuff to coat hundreds of eyepieces so if you would like to try it bring your eyepieces to a board or general meeting. I'll try to remember to bring the stuff. It only takes a few minutes to put a coat on. You can re-coat in 30 minutes and I put 3 coats on mine. 

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David Fox,
I have looked through my stuff that I have here at the house and I must 
have stored that Canon magnifier in my trailer.  So I do not have it 
handy.  Maybe David Young will bring his to the board meeting.
  
Or Joe, if you have plenty of time, you could hunt through my trailer 
to get it.  It should be in one of the drawers (most likely the second 
or third one) facing out at the back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2 by 
1 1/2 inch cardboard box.  Inside the cardboard box is a leather case 
with the magniviewer in it.  I am not sure of the brand on the box but 
might be Olympus (but fits a Canon).  
Tim Kristl 

What Trailer????

timkristl wrote:

> David Fox,
> I have looked through my stuff that I have here at the house and I must
> have stored that Canon magnifier in my trailer. So I do not have it
> handy. Maybe David Young will bring his to the board meeting.
>
> Or Joe, if you have plenty of time, you could hunt through my trailer
> to get it. It should be in one of the drawers (most likely the second
> or third one) facing out at the back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2 by
> 1 1/2 inch cardboard box. Inside the cardboard box is a leather case
> with the magniviewer in it. I am not sure of the brand on the box but
> might be Olympus (but fits a Canon).
> Tim Kristl
>
>  



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Joe,
Hope you got a good price for it!!
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 1/7/2009 9:11:31 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
jos.wright@... writes:

 
 
 
What Trailer????

timkristl wrote:

> David Fox,
> I  have looked through my stuff that I have here at the house and I must
>  have stored that Canon magnifier in my trailer. So I do not have it
>  handy. Maybe David Young will bring his to the board meeting.
>
>  Or Joe, if you have plenty of time, you could hunt through my trailer
>  to get it. It should be in one of the drawers (most likely the second
>  or third one) facing out at the back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2  by
> 1 1/2 inch cardboard box. Inside the cardboard box is a leather  case
> with the magniviewer in it. I am not sure of the brand on the box  but
> might be Olympus (but fits a Canon).
> Tim  Kristl
>
> 

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I must have missunderstood what was being asked about. I'm bringing a type 
1.4X  L series teleconverter that goes onto the 70X200 Canon L zoom lens
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "timkristl" <timkristl@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Camera Adapter


> David Fox,
> I have looked through my stuff that I have here at the house and I must
> have stored that Canon magnifier in my trailer.  So I do not have it
> handy.  Maybe David Young will bring his to the board meeting.
>
> Or Joe, if you have plenty of time, you could hunt through my trailer
> to get it.  It should be in one of the drawers (most likely the second
> or third one) facing out at the back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2 by
> 1 1/2 inch cardboard box.  Inside the cardboard box is a leather case
> with the magniviewer in it.  I am not sure of the brand on the box but
> might be Olympus (but fits a Canon).
> Tim Kristl
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

What David Young has is what I'm after
 The 1.4X L series teleconverter that is.
 
 
Thanks Again 
Dave
  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Camera Adapter
 
I must have missunderstood what was being asked about. I'm bringing a type 
1.4X L series teleconverter that goes onto the 70X200 Canon L zoom lens
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "timkristl" <timkristl@mkllaw. <mailto:timkristl%40mkllaw.com> com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Camera Adapter

> David Fox,
> I have looked through my stuff that I have here at the house and I must
> have stored that Canon magnifier in my trailer. So I do not have it
> handy. Maybe David Young will bring his to the board meeting.
>
> Or Joe, if you have plenty of time, you could hunt through my trailer
> to get it. It should be in one of the drawers (most likely the second
> or third one) facing out at the back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2 by
> 1 1/2 inch cardboard box. Inside the cardboard box is a leather case
> with the magniviewer in it. I am not sure of the brand on the box but
> might be Olympus (but fits a Canon).
> Tim Kristl
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 
 
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I found it.  It is called a varimagnifinder.  It multiplies the  view finder 
by 1.4 or 2.8 times to aid focusing.  It does not change the  focal length of 
the main lens just the viewfinder.  I am bringing it.
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 1/7/2009 9:57:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
dfox@... writes:

 
 
 
What David Young has is what I'm after
The 1.4X L series teleconverter  that is.


Thanks Again 
Dave
_____ 

From: _ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)  
[mailto:_ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf  Of David
Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:35 PM
To: _ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  Re: [ASKC] Camera Adapter

I must have missunderstood what was being  asked about. I'm bringing a type 
1.4X L series teleconverter that goes  onto the 70X200 Canon L zoom lens
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From:  "timkristl" <timkristl@mkllaw.  <mailto:timkristl%mailto:timai> com>
To:  <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%mailto:ASKC%<Wmai>  com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Camera  Adapter

> David Fox,
> I have looked through my stuff that I  have here at the house and I must
> have stored that Canon magnifier in  my trailer. So I do not have it
> handy. Maybe David Young will bring  his to the board meeting.
>
> Or Joe, if you have plenty of time,  you could hunt through my trailer
> to get it. It should be in one of  the drawers (most likely the second
> or third one) facing out at the  back of the trailer in a small 2 1/2 by
> 1 1/2 inch cardboard box.  Inside the cardboard box is a leather case
> with the magniviewer in it.  I am not sure of the brand on the box but
> might be Olympus (but fits a  Canon).
> Tim Kristl
>
>
>  ------------  ----  ----  -
>
>
>
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

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What David speaks of is a problem.  I must wear eyeglasses with most EP's in 
order to see to the stop.  If one removes the rubber cup in order to get 
closer to the EP, scratching your eyeglass is inevitable.  An expensive 
solution is to have your optician produce your viewing eye prescription in a 
small, round lens which can be placed over your EP like a filter.  It can 
then be rotated to correct for astigmatism if present.

But the less expensive fix is to remove the rubber cup, then replace it with 
a thin neoprene "O" ring, held to the metal part of the EP with a trace of 
super glue.  No more scratches even with your eyeglasses in contact with the 
EP.

Geo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: [ASKC] eyepieces


>I have several eyepieces that do not now and never did have rubber eyecups. 
>These eyepieces and several of the 2" Nagler eyepieces at Powell that do 
>not have rubber on them have scratched my $450 eyeglass lenses numerous 
>times over the past few years. Mice have been knawing the rubber off of the 
>Powell eyepieces and some never had any rubber. I remembered a long time 
>ago I had some stuff to dip pliers and screwdrivers in to put rubber 
>coatings back on. Today I went searching and bought a container of 
>something called Plasti Dip. I used it to put a rubber coating on the end 
>of two 1 1/4" eyepieces as an experiment and it worked very nicely. No more 
>scrcatched eyeglasses from these eyepieces!. I'm going to apply a rubber 
>coating to the end of the rest of my eyepieces that don't already have 
>rubber guards! There's enough in the container of black stuff to coat 
>hundreds of eyepieces so if you would like to try it bring your eyepieces 
>to a board or general meeting. I'll try to remember to bring the stuff. It 
>only takes a few minutes to put a coat on. You can re-coat in 30 minutes 
>and I put 3 coats on mine.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

That's a great idea George. I think I'll try a combination of the plasti 
coat and an O ring. I have several sets of O ring assortments laying around 
here.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] eyepieces


> What David speaks of is a problem.  I must wear eyeglasses with most EP's 
> in
> order to see to the stop.  If one removes the rubber cup in order to get
> closer to the EP, scratching your eyeglass is inevitable.  An expensive
> solution is to have your optician produce your viewing eye prescription in 
> a
> small, round lens which can be placed over your EP like a filter.  It can
> then be rotated to correct for astigmatism if present.
>
> But the less expensive fix is to remove the rubber cup, then replace it 
> with
> a thin neoprene "O" ring, held to the metal part of the EP with a trace of
> super glue.  No more scratches even with your eyeglasses in contact with 
> the
> EP.
>
> Geo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:06 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] eyepieces
>
>
>>I have several eyepieces that do not now and never did have rubber 
>>eyecups.
>>These eyepieces and several of the 2" Nagler eyepieces at Powell that do
>>not have rubber on them have scratched my $450 eyeglass lenses numerous
>>times over the past few years. Mice have been knawing the rubber off of 
>>the
>>Powell eyepieces and some never had any rubber. I remembered a long time
>>ago I had some stuff to dip pliers and screwdrivers in to put rubber
>>coatings back on. Today I went searching and bought a container of
>>something called Plasti Dip. I used it to put a rubber coating on the end
>>of two 1 1/4" eyepieces as an experiment and it worked very nicely. No 
>>more
>>scrcatched eyeglasses from these eyepieces!. I'm going to apply a rubber
>>coating to the end of the rest of my eyepieces that don't already have
>>rubber guards! There's enough in the container of black stuff to coat
>>hundreds of eyepieces so if you would like to try it bring your eyepieces
>>to a board or general meeting. I'll try to remember to bring the stuff. It
>>only takes a few minutes to put a coat on. You can re-coat in 30 minutes
>>and I put 3 coats on mine.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
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>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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> 

I just bought a Kenko 2x Teleconverter for Canon EOS that I will be glad to bring to the meeting, if that is useful.

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That's probably a good idea Don. I don't think the one I have will work with 
any lens that is not an "L" series. I know it won't work with the 17 X 85 
zoom I use as a standard lens.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Grodecki" <don@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Camera Adapter


>I just bought a Kenko 2x Teleconverter for Canon EOS that I will be glad to 
>bring to the meeting, if that is useful.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I just stuck an O ring onto a 40mm Nagler using the plasti dip as the 
adhesive. Now the test will be if the plasti dip will adhere well enough to 
keep the O ring on as it's taken into and out of the foam pockets in the 
case.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] eyepieces


> What David speaks of is a problem.  I must wear eyeglasses with most EP's 
> in
> order to see to the stop.  If one removes the rubber cup in order to get
> closer to the EP, scratching your eyeglass is inevitable.  An expensive
> solution is to have your optician produce your viewing eye prescription in 
> a
> small, round lens which can be placed over your EP like a filter.  It can
> then be rotated to correct for astigmatism if present.
>
> But the less expensive fix is to remove the rubber cup, then replace it 
> with
> a thin neoprene "O" ring, held to the metal part of the EP with a trace of
> super glue.  No more scratches even with your eyeglasses in contact with 
> the
> EP.
>
> Geo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:06 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] eyepieces
>
>
>>I have several eyepieces that do not now and never did have rubber 
>>eyecups.
>>These eyepieces and several of the 2" Nagler eyepieces at Powell that do
>>not have rubber on them have scratched my $450 eyeglass lenses numerous
>>times over the past few years. Mice have been knawing the rubber off of 
>>the
>>Powell eyepieces and some never had any rubber. I remembered a long time
>>ago I had some stuff to dip pliers and screwdrivers in to put rubber
>>coatings back on. Today I went searching and bought a container of
>>something called Plasti Dip. I used it to put a rubber coating on the end
>>of two 1 1/4" eyepieces as an experiment and it worked very nicely. No 
>>more
>>scrcatched eyeglasses from these eyepieces!. I'm going to apply a rubber
>>coating to the end of the rest of my eyepieces that don't already have
>>rubber guards! There's enough in the container of black stuff to coat
>>hundreds of eyepieces so if you would like to try it bring your eyepieces
>>to a board or general meeting. I'll try to remember to bring the stuff. It
>>only takes a few minutes to put a coat on. You can re-coat in 30 minutes
>>and I put 3 coats on mine.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Is anyone interested in going to Gates Barbeque before the Board 
Meeting tonight?  Maybe around 6:00.

John 

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Well, bummer! The plasti dip adhered very nicely to the metal of the eyepiece but didn't stick at all well to the o ring ! ? !  I had expected it to stick to the o ring better than to the painted metal. I just super glued the darn o ring to the eyepiece per George's idea. Let's see how that works. I hate it when I can't just weld something on:-)

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I have purchased a set of eyepieces and some other stuff and picked out the pieces I want to keep. Before I post them on astromart I'll offer them to askc members.

13 mm Teleview Nagler        $250
16 mm Teleview Nagler        $200
20 mm Teleview Nagler        $280
32 mm Teleview wide field    $150
65 mm University Plossl II     $60
University @X Barlow           $50

If anyone out there is still trying film astrophotography I also have a Vixen Illuminated Retical Model GA-3    $ ??


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Eric & Jay:

I had already sent our reservations and names in to SP to meet the 
deadline before your reply.  This is just an information table without 
doing any observing or formal presentations.  I will see what I can do. 

Joe



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HI, MAY I HELP YOU.

Sounds good to us.  See you there.

Joe



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Hey George, the super glue worked very nicely on the O ring! It's stuck nicely to the top of my 40 mm Nagler now. If anyone else out there wants to try either the plasti dip for small lenses or O rings let me know. I have a big box of O rings left over from my well drilling days.

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This message was posted to the MSRAL E-group by Jim Tull of the Saint 
Louis Astronomical Society. Thought I would pass it along in case 
anyone here is interested in attending.

"I've posted a copy of the announcement of the SLAS IYA 2009 kickoff
meeting being held Friday January 16 at the St. Louis Science Center.
It's located in the IYA2009 folder (on the MSRAL E-group).

The featured speaker is Dr. Pamela Gay from SIU-E. She is very
dynamic and entertaining.

Everyone is invited and admission is free. There will also be
attendance prizes awarded.

We hope to see you there."

This just in from Jack Dunn in Nebraska.

"The kick-off for IYA in Nebraska will be held Jan. 17th at the
Strategic Air and Space Museum off of I-80 near Ashland, Nebraska.

Our speaker will be James Manning, Executive Director of the
Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Jim's visit is being sponsored
by the NASA Nebraska Space Grant Consortium. Space Grant
also has set up a fine website to keep track of all IYA activities
in the state at http://www.iyanebraska.org

Both the Prairie Astronomy Club of Lincoln and the Omaha
Astronomical Society will be participating in the star party
outside the Museum which will follow the talk.
Details here:
http://www.iyanebraska.org/First_Light.html"

Kansas City........????????????????

Gary Pittman wrote:

> This just in from Jack Dunn in Nebraska.
>
> "The kick-off for IYA in Nebraska will be held Jan. 17th at the
> Strategic Air and Space Museum off of I-80 near Ashland, Nebraska.
>
> Our speaker will be James Manning, Executive Director of the
> Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Jim's visit is being sponsored
> by the NASA Nebraska Space Grant Consortium. Space Grant
> also has set up a fine website to keep track of all IYA activities
> in the state at http://www.iyanebraska.org <http://www.iyanebraska.org>
>
> Both the Prairie Astronomy Club of Lincoln and the Omaha
> Astronomical Society will be participating in the star party
> outside the Museum which will follow the talk.
> Details here:
> http://www.iyanebraska.org/First_Light.html 
> <http://www.iyanebraska.org/First_Light.html>"
>
>  



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Having received no interest in dinner, I will call this off.  Maybe 
some other time.

John 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone interested in going to Gates Barbeque before the Board 
> Meeting tonight?  Maybe around 6:00.
> 
> John
>

Briarwood school has a science night on January 22. Inside stuff only.

any volunteers?

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I talked to Joe. We're going without you.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Dinner Before the Board Meeting


> Having received no interest in dinner, I will call this off.  Maybe 
> some other time.
> 
> John 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone interested in going to Gates Barbeque before the Board 
>> Meeting tonight?  Maybe around 6:00.
>> 
>> John
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

David,

Where's Briarwood and is this an elementary, middle or high school?  Any idea of number of kids?

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:52 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] off site


  Briarwood school has a science night on January 22. Inside stuff only.

  any volunteers?

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Any takers? :)

 

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From: Angie Hills [mailto:ahills@...] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:37 PM
To: antares@...
Subject: Question

 

I am not sure if you are the person that I should contact, but my name is
Angela Hills and I am the Staff Camp Coordinator for the Muscular Dystrophy
Association here in the Kansas City area.  Each year, we host a week-long
summer camp for youth ages 6-17 that are living with a neuromuscular disease
in the area.  Our camp is held in Linwood, KS just outside of Kansas City,
KS and we have approximately 70 campers and 90 volunteers with us for the
week.  This year, one of our daily themes is Star Wars, and I was wondering
if your group might be interested in bringing out some telescopes the
evening of Friday June 19, 2009 and allowing our kids to check out the
stars.  That morning we will be presenting each camper with a star named
after them, and I know they would love to have some experts help them to
locate their stars.  Our camp is at no cost to the families that we serve
and each of our campers has a one-on-one volunteer counselor who is with
him/her for the entire week.  We would love it if your group could come out
and have some fun with us this year.  If you are not the person I should be
emailing this request to, I apologize and could you please point me in the
direction of the correct person?  I look forward to hearing back from you. 

 

Angela B. Hills

Health Care Services Coordinator

Staff Camp Coordinator

Muscular Dystrophy Association

8700 Indian Creek Parkway

Suite 340

Overland Park, KS 66210

913-451-3230/ voice

913-451-3339/ fax

ahills@...

 

 

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I'm going.

David Young wrote:

> I talked to Joe. We're going without you.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@... <mailto:jdbenzrph%40kc.rr.com>>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:37 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Dinner Before the Board Meeting
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> > Having received no interest in dinner, I will call this off. Maybe
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> > John
> >
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> Benz" <jdbenzrph@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is anyone interested in going to Gates Barbeque before the Board
> >> Meeting tonight? Maybe around 6:00.
> >>
> >> John
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All right,  I'm bakc in.  See you there.

John


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> I'm going.
> 
> David Young wrote:
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> > I talked to Joe. We're going without you.
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> > From: "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@... <mailto:jdbenzrph%40kc.rr.com>>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:37 PM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Dinner Before the Board Meeting
> >
> > > Having received no interest in dinner, I will call this off. Maybe
> > > some other time.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>, "John 
> > Benz" <jdbenzrph@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Is anyone interested in going to Gates Barbeque before the Board
> > >> Meeting tonight? Maybe around 6:00.
> > >>
> > >> John
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> > >
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Count me in--tentatively.  This far out I just don't know what will be going on then.
Waning crescent that night, good!  
Star naming?  Should someone contact Miss Hills now regarding that or just leave it be and go along w/it?

Grant Miller
Warrensburg MO

       

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My gosh David!  If those are what you are getting rid of, what are you keeping?

jealously,
Grant

       

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If we don't do a public thing with this one we are sad indeed...   It would
be a great fund raiser too!!

APPROACHING COMET: Comet Lulin (C/2007 N3), discovered in 2007 by a
collaborative team of Taiwanese and Chinese astronomers, is swinging around
the sun and approaching Earth. The photogenic comet has a bright tail and an
"anti-tail" visible in mid-sized backyard telescopes. At closest approach in
February, Comet Lulin is expected to brighten to naked-eye visibility. Visit
<http://spaceweather.com/> http://Spaceweather.com for sky maps, pictures
and more information.

 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager





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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Pittman
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:28 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] IYA 2009



This just in from Jack Dunn in Nebraska.

"The kick-off for IYA in Nebraska will be held Jan. 17th at the
Strategic Air and Space Museum off of I-80 near Ashland, Nebraska.

Our speaker will be James Manning, Executive Director of the
Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Jim's visit is being sponsored
by the NASA Nebraska Space Grant Consortium. Space Grant
also has set up a fine website to keep track of all IYA activities
in the state at http://www.iyanebra <http://www.iyanebraska.org> ska.org

Both the Prairie Astronomy Club of Lincoln and the Omaha
Astronomical Society will be participating in the star party
outside the Museum which will follow the talk.
Details here:
http://www.iyanebra <http://www.iyanebraska.org/First_Light.html>
ska.org/First_Light.html"



 


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That is at Tall Oaks near Linwood, Kansas. We've been out there several 
times and plan to be there again. I've put the event on the calendar and 
exhanged email with Angie.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gina Fedon" <antares@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: [ASKC] FW: Question


> Any takers? :)
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Angie Hills [mailto:ahills@...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:37 PM
> To: antares@...
> Subject: Question
>
>
>
> I am not sure if you are the person that I should contact, but my name is
> Angela Hills and I am the Staff Camp Coordinator for the Muscular 
> Dystrophy
> Association here in the Kansas City area.  Each year, we host a week-long
> summer camp for youth ages 6-17 that are living with a neuromuscular 
> disease
> in the area.  Our camp is held in Linwood, KS just outside of Kansas City,
> KS and we have approximately 70 campers and 90 volunteers with us for the
> week.  This year, one of our daily themes is Star Wars, and I was 
> wondering
> if your group might be interested in bringing out some telescopes the
> evening of Friday June 19, 2009 and allowing our kids to check out the
> stars.  That morning we will be presenting each camper with a star named
> after them, and I know they would love to have some experts help them to
> locate their stars.  Our camp is at no cost to the families that we serve
> and each of our campers has a one-on-one volunteer counselor who is with
> him/her for the entire week.  We would love it if your group could come 
> out
> and have some fun with us this year.  If you are not the person I should 
> be
> emailing this request to, I apologize and could you please point me in the
> direction of the correct person?  I look forward to hearing back from you.
>
>
>
> Angela B. Hills
>
> Health Care Services Coordinator
>
> Staff Camp Coordinator
>
> Muscular Dystrophy Association
>
> 8700 Indian Creek Parkway
>
> Suite 340
>
> Overland Park, KS 66210
>
> 913-451-3230/ voice
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> 913-451-3339/ fax
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I filled out my set of Naglers to 9mm, 12mm, 17 mm, 20mm. I also have 
Teleview  35 mm Panoptic and 40mm widefield.

The leftovers are so close to the others that I see no need to hang onto 
them. I already have a Teleview 2X Barlow so no need to keep the other one. 
Only so much room in the case. It's pretty full with the UHC and OIII 
filters cramed in beside an eyepiece at the moment. I think I'll put the 
filters in the other case with the collimation tools. 

Any volunteers for this?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: crisangles@... 
To: dyoung8@... 
Cc: LGrsng@... ; canoebabe@... 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:17 PM
Subject: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet seeking entertainment


Dear Mr. Young.
It was a pleasure speaking with you on the phone yesterday about the Powell Observatory.  As I mentioned our 4th grade boys scout troop is in charge of the annual Nativity Blue and Gold Banquet honoring boy scout achievements for troop in grades 1st - 5th and their families.  This event will to be held on Tuesday, February 17 from 6-8pm.  I believe the evening will be held in our Nativity Church parish hall.  We are located at 119th & Mission Road in Leawood, Kansas. 
We are considering the theme being about the stars and are hoping to find some kind of entertainment related to that.  We have AV equipment access and tables to be able to display telescopes.  Might you have any presentations or volunteers that would be willing to come this evening?  We welcome any suggestions or assistance with this.
Thank you,
Cristina Angles
h 913 696-0006
c 913 481-9500
Crisangles@...

cc: Lisa Grasing (4th grade Troop Leader)
Amy Vlassic (2nd grade scout mom; Leawood Parks and Rec. committee member)


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Right on!!  At closest approach, it will be a couple of degrees west 
of beta Virginis (almost exactly halfway between Regulus in Leo and 
Spica in Virgo) and about 12� south of Denebola (tail star of Leo).

24 Feb is a Tuesday so we should probably go for either Sat 21 Feb 
or Sat 28 Feb.  Also, the 24th is New Moon, so no problem there.

Interpolating from the ephemeris, on the 21st, local time, which 
will be the 22nd UT, the comet will be quite near RA 12h, Dec 0�, 
about 3� SE of beta Virginis.  It should be high enough in the east 
to become visible by about 9 PM.  It will also be only about 10� ESE 
of Saturn.

On the 28th, local time, which will be the 29th UT, again 
interpolating from the ephemeris, the comet will be near RA 9h50m, 
Dec +12�30', just 4� west of Regulus.  It should be viewable 
telescopically by the end of civil twilight (6:38 PM in Louisburg).

Both 2/21 and 2/28 are open on the calendar for Powell, although 
2/28 is the General Meeting.

Jay


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, " David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> If we don't do a public thing with this one we are sad indeed...   
It would
> be a great fund raiser too!!
> 
> APPROACHING COMET: Comet Lulin (C/2007 N3), discovered in 2007 by a
> collaborative team of Taiwanese and Chinese astronomers, is 
swinging around
> the sun and approaching Earth. The photogenic comet has a bright 
tail and an
> "anti-tail" visible in mid-sized backyard telescopes. At closest 
approach in
> February, Comet Lulin is expected to brighten to naked-eye 
visibility. Visit
> <http://spaceweather.com/> http://Spaceweather.com for sky maps, 
pictures
> and more information.
> 
>  
> 
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@...m] On Behalf 
Of Gary
> Pittman
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:28 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] IYA 2009
> 
> 
> 
> This just in from Jack Dunn in Nebraska.
> 
> "The kick-off for IYA in Nebraska will be held Jan. 17th at the
> Strategic Air and Space Museum off of I-80 near Ashland, Nebraska.
> 
> Our speaker will be James Manning, Executive Director of the
> Astronomical Society of the Pacific. Jim's visit is being sponsored
> by the NASA Nebraska Space Grant Consortium. Space Grant
> also has set up a fine website to keep track of all IYA activities
> in the state at http://www.iyanebra <http://www.iyanebraska.org> 
ska.org
> 
> Both the Prairie Astronomy Club of Lincoln and the Omaha
> Astronomical Society will be participating in the star party
> outside the Museum which will follow the talk.
> Details here:
> http://www.iyanebra <http://www.iyanebraska.org/First_Light.html>
> ska.org/First_Light.html"
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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>

I am on board.  We did this gig about three years ago.

Joe

Grant Miller wrote:

> Count me in--tentatively. This far out I just don't know what will be 
> going on then.
> Waning crescent that night, good!
> Star naming? Should someone contact Miss Hills now regarding that or 
> just leave it be and go along w/it?
>
> Grant Miller
> Warrensburg MO
>
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>  



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I opened up my MacLife issue 2/2009 and found a nice article P.50-52)  "In a galaxy far,  far away"  by Leslie Ayers. It's about David Illig of Maryland and his very nice observatory and telescope system. His four macintosh computers, Canon 50D, two telescopes help his digital imaging and deep sky endeavors. He used Equinox software (never heard of this one) and Starry Night Pro (which I love). Very in depth and nicely written with photos.  
I can't find the article online but you can take a look at it in bookstores with the MacLife magazine





Dr. Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...), Olathe, KS:  Lat 38.834, Lon -94.778






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The "name a star" thing is difficult. The location of the stars may not be available(wrong time of year). and, at the�coordinates the star may not be there. If a star is supposed to be available�but there is nothing there, just slightly move the scope until you have a star. I would not tell them anything different.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 5:18:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re:FW: Question


I am on board. We did this gig about three years ago.

Joe

Grant Miller wrote:

> Count me in--tentatively. This far out I just don't know what will be 
> going on then.
> Waning crescent that night, good!
> Star naming? Should someone contact Miss Hills now regarding that or 
> just leave it be and go along w/it?
>
> Grant Miller
> Warrensburg MO
>
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>
> 

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Just curious, why are some keyholders BOLD and some not? - Don

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, earthdude wrote:
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
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> 
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/keyholder%20schedule%
2009.xls 
> 
> Regards,
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> earthdude123 <earthdude123@...>
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The bold are the special people! You will notice you are in bold type but 
I'm not :-)
O'm guessing its because the orginall list bold faced every other pair to 
make it easier to keep you place in the column. When the list was updated to 
add new keyholders and erase drop outs, the bold face got out of whack.

I would imagine some just have more self-confidence or audacity and, therefore, are bolder...  Alternatively, it could be related to alcohol intake or birth order.

Hmmm, and I keep wondering when I'm going to get blocked off the yahoo group list.

Rick Henderson 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Don Grodecki 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:31 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Keyholder Duty File


  Just curious, why are some keyholders BOLD and some not? - Don

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  > Hello,
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  > This email message is a notification to let you know that
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  > You can access this file at the URL:
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  2009.xls 
  > 
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Yep, the list is a result of cut and paste and thats it. Sorry for any
confusion. 

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> The bold are the special people! You will notice you are in bold
type but 
> I'm not :-)
> O'm guessing its because the orginall list bold faced every other
pair to 
> make it easier to keep you place in the column. When the list was
updated to 
> add new keyholders and erase drop outs, the bold face got out of whack.
>

 
 Don't fix it, I kind of like the "banter" that it brought out.
dt

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> Yep, the list is a result of cut and paste and thats it. Sorry for any
> confusion. 
> 
> Darrick
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young"  wrote:
> >
> > The bold are the special people! You will notice you are in bold
> type but 
> > I'm not :-)
> > O'm guessing its because the orginall list bold faced every other
> pair to 
> > make it easier to keep you place in the column. When the list was
> updated to 
> > add new keyholders and erase drop outs, the bold face got out of whack.
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
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> 


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We got a flyer from Linda Hall today as a reminder about the speaker talking on "How to see a Black Hole". Its at Linda Hall on Febrary 5 and it is by reservaton only. Guests ARE allowed. I'll be calling them in a day or so to confirm my reservation. Anyone else thinking of going? If so let me know and I'll add you to my reservation.

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Linda and I would like to go if you can squeeze us in David.

Clear skies,

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> We got a flyer from Linda Hall today as a reminder about the speaker 
talking on "How to see a Black Hole". Its at Linda Hall on Febrary 5 
and it is by reservaton only. Guests ARE allowed. I'll be calling them 
in a day or so to confirm my reservation. Anyone else thinking of 
going? If so let me know and I'll add you to my reservation.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

David,
�
I would like to go.
�
Joel Falk
Overland Park,� KS

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:

From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
Subject: [ASKC] black hole talk
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:07 PM






We got a flyer from Linda Hall today as a reminder about the speaker talking on "How to see a Black Hole". Its at Linda Hall on Febrary 5 and it is by reservaton only. Guests ARE allowed. I'll be calling them in a day or so to confirm my reservation. Anyone else thinking of going? If so let me know and I'll add you to my reservation.

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I bet that would be Christine Fox.

Clear skies,

Gary

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David and I went out to Powell today to look at solving some shutter
problem. Good news, the culprit for sporadic shutter closing has been
found and fixed. The bad news, the motor for the shutter is having
problems. No new appointments using the 30" will be made until the
problem can be fixed. Sorry. 

I will keep you posted.

One of my supervisors is a talented photographer. While browsing he found

http://www.solargraphy.com/

VERY long exposures for the sun!

Enjoy,

David Neuenschwander


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From David Dunham, President of International Occultation Timing
Association. More can probably be found on some of the science/space
sites:

Alan Fiala sent me the message from Brenda Corbin below
informing us of the sad passing of Tom Van Flandern. He died of
complications from colon cancer, which ironically also killed
Homer DaBoll (past newsletter editor/membership secretary of IOTA) in
1990.

From the mid-1960's into the 1970's, Tom and I worked
closely together to establish the first comprehensive computer
software system for predicting and analyzing lunar occultations,
especially the then new field of grazing occultations. In those
days, the work was more difficult than now, done with punched
cards and mainframe computers, mainly at the U.S. Naval
Observatory (USNO) where Tom worked at the time. Tom preferred
to do the analysis while letting me organize the observer
network that became IOTA, but he and his work were vital to
IOTA's beginnings. He greatly expanded the small "Evans"
program (named for Carroll Evans in California) to generate
comprehensive modern-style total lunar occultation predictions,
which inspired the similar predictions now produced by WinOccult
and Lunar Occultation Workbench.

Tom also became interested in asteroidal occultations,
especially after observing the occultation of a 9th-mag. star by
(18) Melpomene photoelectrically at USNO on 1978 Dec. 11 [that
was also my first asteroidal occultation, 30 years to the day
before Scotty Degenhardt's remarkable 14-station success with
(135) Hertha last month]. I used Tom's software to analyze
asteroidal occultation observations until a few years ago, when
that function is now performed with WinOccult. Tom listened
when, in 1977 and 1978, Paul Maley and others described
secondary occultations indicating that asteroids probably had
satellites, many years before those objects were accepted as
real by most astronomers, and published some pioneering papers
discussing the dynamics of binary asteroids.

On 1970 March 7th, Tom observed a total solar eclipse from
near the northern limit of totality, while I observed the same
eclipse near the southern limit; this was the genesis of modern
efforts to observe eclipses this way for solar radius
measurements. Tom advocated making these observations, and has
organized the only sizeable public successful "Eclipse Edge"
expeditions, starting in 1991 July in Mexico (I was with him
there) and continuing through the 2002 December eclipse in
Australia.

Besides our close astronomical collaboration, I am also
indebted to Tom personally, he was a great friend who helped
secure my employment with Computer Sciences Corporation in 1976
in spite of poor recommendations from my previous two "old
school" bosses who did not appreciate my work. That led to my
collaboration with Dr. Robert Farquhar ever since that year, on
the design of orbits for numerous space missions, including the
ISEE-3/ International Cometary Explorer (first space mission to
a comet in Sept. 1985, along with many other "firsts") and the
NEAR Shoemaker mission to (433) Eros in 2000 - 2001. Tom also
introduced me to his employee, Joan Bixby, whom I married in
1970.

An asteroid will be named for Tom with the next batch of
Minor Planet Circulars at the next full moon on February 9.

David Dunham

All,

The phone number listed in the membership directory, 816 331 5796, should be changed to 816 522 8921 (yes, my cell phone).  Our home phone line has been disconnected.  Update your contact lists!

-Scott

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How very sad.

I knew Dr. Van Flandern from the first two of those successful Eclipse Edge expeditions. Having decided that China was out of reach he was considering sites in Chile again for 2010. But I didn't even know he was sick. His Meta Research site

http://www.metaresearch.org/

hasn't had new travel news for some time. There are excellent descriptions there of what happens at the edge of totality. It's also a document of how iconoclastic such a gentle man could be. It's unfortunate that he'll be remembered for extinct Martian civilization mania. Many of his other ideas including his explanation of gravity and exploding planet hypothesis put him beyond the edge of current orthodoxy.

While in Santiago in 1994 Edgers were treated to an observing session at a ski lodge. It was my first view of the southern sky and was as astounding to me as was that eclipse. Dr. Van Flandern verified for me that we were indeed seeing Saturn in the north. Our travel agent noticed this and put me next to our host on the long flight back from Chile. The man was asleep before takeoff. I kept other travelers from waking him for autographs. When he awoke I enjoyed long conversation about occultation timing and his astrophysics. He literally wrote the book while at USNO about timing methods.

I was looking forward to more.

May he rest in peace,

David Neuenschwander



 



    
    
 



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I noticed the sundial has been broken off again. This time the kids who used it as a swing managed to break the casting so it won't be an easy fix this time. I guess we'll need to put it 5 feet up and surround it with barbed wire.

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Yes, I suggest Mike contact Kristine.  
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:02:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I bet that would be Christine Fox.

Clear  skies,

Gary

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>
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Has the 2009 Powell Observatory Team Schedule been posted/printed yet?
Dan

Not yet. Still waiting for topics from team leaders. I am not wanting
to rush it out until I am sure of what they want to do.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "gdj561956" <gdj102356@...> wrote:
>
> Has the 2009 Powell Observatory Team Schedule been posted/printed yet?
> Dan
>

David,
I received my own invitation.  I will likely go.
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 1/10/2009 8:08:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
dyoung8@... writes:

 
 
 
We got a flyer from Linda Hall today as a reminder about the speaker  talking 
on "How to see a Black Hole". Its at Linda Hall on Febrary 5 and it is  by 
reservaton only. Guests ARE allowed. I'll be calling them in a day or so to  
confirm my reservation. Anyone else thinking of going? If so let me know and  
I'll add you to my reservation.

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Lotsa stories on it ...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1293030997

Jay

Thanks for the on-line replys and the MANY off-line replys!  They 
were much help, but after sorting through the data and trying to 
figure how to go about setting up a logbook, I've come up with a 
different route.

Did you know that some very obvious objects are not included in the 
Herschel Catalog?  For instance NGC 224 is not included!  That's M31 
to you and me.

I think I'll just go for the whole NGC catalog (at least the ones 
north of -50 declination).  It's a long range goal and I've got a 
bunch of other projects I'm working on.  It should be enough to keep 
me busy for a few years!

-Scott


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a source to find the Herschel Catalog sorted 
by constellation?  
> 
> Or can you sort this file by constellation:
> 
> http://obs.nineplanets.org/herschel/h2500.txt
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Wow, now that's a project! My big project for the day (after getting out of 
bed) was to put up some lights in the garage.

Good fortune on you project!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Kranz" <s.kranz1@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:27 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Herschel catalog sorted by constellation



> I think I'll just go for the whole NGC catalog (at least the ones
> north of -50 declination).  It's a long range goal and I've got a
> bunch of other projects I'm working on.  It should be enough to keep
> me busy for a few years!

>I'm just wondering...   We had a really nice night last evening.  It 
>was crystal clear for at least a few hours in the evening.

Is anyone actually out observing in this cold?


Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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ummmm actually, yes.  I was out on the deck with the 7-inch for about 2 hours.  About 20 minutes of it was spent with five 6th grade Girl Scouts.  It was dark, at least for my backyard (SQM average was 19.48), but the seeing was horrible.  Even Venus appeared to be twinkling for a while.

-Scott

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS <comments@...> 


>I'm just wondering... We had a really nice night last evening. It 
>was crystal clear for at least a few hours in the evening.

Is anyone actually out observing in this cold?

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org

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I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the Tahoe. 
Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jen Winter - ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Cold but clear


>
>
>>I'm just wondering...   We had a really nice night last evening.  It
>>was crystal clear for at least a few hours in the evening.
>
> Is anyone actually out observing in this cold?
>
>
> Jen Dudley Winter -
>
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

At 01:12 PM 1/16/2009, David Young wrote:
>I'm confident it will warm up again someday.

It better, or else Al Gore is going to look like a fool.

Again.



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Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all used to be, 
but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans.  And slow 
cooking and music.  And old movies from netFlix with popcorn.  Winter is a 
nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change.  Put a head of 
cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some taters, 
onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair with the 
latest astronomy book.  Start your bread maker on a loaf of crusty dipping 
bread.  Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath.  Dinner will be ready in 4 
hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.

Geo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear


>I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the Tahoe.
> Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
> 

That's about enough time to get there from here. ..isn't it.

Hey everyone, George has invited us for dinner.

Seating for 150 please. 

#1, plot and lay in a course north.

Joe



George Allen wrote:

> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all used to 
> be,
> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans. And slow
> cooking and music. And old movies from netFlix with popcorn. Winter is a
> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change. Put a head of
> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some 
> taters,
> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair with the
> latest astronomy book. Start your bread maker on a loaf of crusty dipping
> bread. Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath. Dinner will be ready in 4
> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
>
> Geo.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>
> >I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the Tahoe.
> > Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
> >
>
>  



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Yeah, like when he voted to break the tie and started taxing my social 
security that the democrats promised would never be taxed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Tippin" <martyt@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear


> At 01:12 PM 1/16/2009, David Young wrote:
>>I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
>
> It better, or else Al Gore is going to look like a fool.
>
> Again.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I like your attitude. I'm having some new buisness cards made. They will 
say:
I don't anything anymore so there's no use calling me. Of course there's no 
name or number but at least I'll have a card to give someone if they happen 
to ask for one.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear


> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all used to be,
> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans.  And slow
> cooking and music.  And old movies from netFlix with popcorn.  Winter is a
> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change.  Put a head of
> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some taters,
> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair with the
> latest astronomy book.  Start your bread maker on a loaf of crusty dipping
> bread.  Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath.  Dinner will be ready in 4
> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
>
> Geo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>
>
>>I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the Tahoe.
>> Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

The cabbage put me off. Should be warm tomorrow. Kensington tours sent me a 
teaser on another Africa trip, a 6 day motorcycle trip. I think I prefer 
being INSIDE a vehicle instead of inside a lion!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear


> That's about enough time to get there from here. ..isn't it.
>
> Hey everyone, George has invited us for dinner.
>
> Seating for 150 please.
>
> #1, plot and lay in a course north.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> George Allen wrote:
>
>> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all used to
>> be,
>> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans. And slow
>> cooking and music. And old movies from netFlix with popcorn. Winter is a
>> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change. Put a head of
>> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some
>> taters,
>> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair with the
>> latest astronomy book. Start your bread maker on a loaf of crusty dipping
>> bread. Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath. Dinner will be ready in 4
>> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
>>
>> Geo.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>>
>> >I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the 
>> >Tahoe.
>> > Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the entire group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?

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Indoor activities:
Please note that we don't get out much, so projects get out of 
control quickly.
...And yes, we do know there is something really wrong with us.

1:  The ICSTARS train set developed a new wing.   We added a 4'X4' 
section on the edge of the 8'x8' main board.  It's designed with an 
arc cut out to nestle the Christmas tree into.   We'll bring it out 
each winter as this is the time of year the Circus comes to 
town!  This year we began with a chair-o-plain ride that lights up 
and spins, a few little stupid throw balls at the bottle booths and a 
nice concession stand equipped with hundreds of teeny HO scale beer 
mugs. (How German could that detail be?)  We haven't invested in 
chair-o-plain riders yet, so mostly it's seated train passengers, a 
cop and the always busy soccer guy.  The grim reaper seems to ride 
the chair-o-plain very well standing up.  His sickle holds him 
in.  next year, we'll add the big top, the ferris wheel or maybe the 
roller coaster.  Oh, how easy it'd be to blow a couple grand...
Fred has decided the road bed for cars will be the auto-drive variety 
where the little cars with internal motors follow the wire buried 
inside the road bed to drive themselves unattended.  They're pretty 
expensive, so we'll buy one car at a time.  We all agree that if only 
one car can drive around all the time on its own, it should be the 
big brown UPS toy truck.  <woo hoo!>

2:  POPCORN HOUR MOVIE VIEWER!
http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?module=onlinestore&pluginoption=catalog&task=info&item_id=11&main_id=0&category_id=
This is Fred heaven.  We now have 100% of our DVD's loaded onto our 
server.  so it's like 9TB or something, whatever.  We still have like 
12TB open.  I don't know.  <insert Fred correcting me here>
Now, we load a new DVD onto the server.  It lives there happily in 
solid state (with redundant backup) forever.  Fred scripted an HTML 
graphical interface where the UPC codes suck down the data about the 
movie, a jacket cover and a background graphic to go behind the data.
So now we  sit and surf the movie collection menu by genre without 
getting up.  No more aimlessly wandering through our minds to 
remember what movies we have to watch, dig around, find the case.  It 
has no DVD in it, somebody else's DVD in it, or is scratched.     <we 
bought a second one for Shadow since she likes to roller skate on her DVD's>

3:  The same-old, same-old stuff.
Tiling Southern Milky way images into a 27foot square mural for the 
Tiwanacu museum ceiling. <grumble, hard...>
new variable bandpass filter options and etalon mapping capacity.
We can't decide between the All-sky camera or the heliostat as Fred's 
next project.  Suggestions?  I like all sky.
Found a REEELLY cool place to see the Jan 2010 - 8 MINUTE LONG 
annular eclipse in Old Bagan.  Google picture it. yes, that's real.
still simmering Fiji, China, Tahiti, Tuamotus, Eclipses, India 
Leonids, maybe another Mongolian Meteorite chase.
And some german news team wants to do a feature length documentary on 
the SSSP this year for the IYA 2009.  If anyone wanted to star in a 
documentary, please call now.  I don't like the camera as much as Vic did.

Pretty much the same old stuff.
OH.  and Shadow doesn't want me to forget she got the new WEATHER 
RADIO she asked for for Christmas and sleeps with it on her bedside 
every night.  ON.  ALL NIGHT.   That's our girl.

Clear skies,
jen

At 03:10 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:

>The cabbage put me off. Should be warm tomorrow. Kensington tours sent me a
>teaser on another Africa trip, a 6 day motorcycle trip. I think I prefer
>being INSIDE a vehicle instead of inside a lion!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Wright" <<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>jos.wright@...>
>To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:30 PM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>
> > That's about enough time to get there from here. ..isn't it.
> >
> > Hey everyone, George has invited us for dinner.
> >
> > Seating for 150 please.
> >
> > #1, plot and lay in a course north.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > George Allen wrote:
> >
> >> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all used to
> >> be,
> >> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans. And slow
> >> cooking and music. And old movies from netFlix with popcorn. Winter is a
> >> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change. Put a head of
> >> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some
> >> taters,
> >> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair with the
> >> latest astronomy book. Start your bread maker on a loaf of crusty dipping
> >> bread. Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath. Dinner will be ready in 4
> >> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
> >>
> >> Geo.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Young" 
> <<mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>>
> >> To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
> >>
> >> >I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the
> >> >Tahoe.
> >> > Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Nothing so grandioise for me. If I get one project a day done I figure 
that's good enough. Projects vary from picking up that stray sock to 
shoveling a driveway. I have a weather station sitting on the couch. I read 
the directions but haven't actually started to install the thing. No need to 
get carried away with this s*&#$ :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jen Winter - ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear


> Indoor activities:

I over achieved today.  Did the dishes, a load of laundry, cleaned the 
basement and met about a job to create shop drawings for the window 
installation in the new US Courthouse in Mississippi.  I took the tree 
and train down last week.  I have a radio telescope as one of the 
buildings.  Well, Newton is making it hard to type and dinner is almost 
ready.

See ya.

Wish I was in Tucson Joe

David Young wrote:

> Nothing so grandioise for me. If I get one project a day done I figure
> that's good enough. Projects vary from picking up that stray sock to
> shoveling a driveway. I have a weather station sitting on the couch. I 
> read
> the directions but haven't actually started to install the thing. No 
> need to
> get carried away with this s*&#$ :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jen Winter - ICSTARS" <comments@... 
> <mailto:comments%40icstars.com>>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>
> > Indoor activities:
>
>  



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Does that require a warm up?

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> At 01:12 PM 1/16/2009, David Young wrote:
> >I'm confident it will warm up again someday.
> 
> It better, or else Al Gore is going to look like a fool.
> 
> Again.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Come on David, anything you can say to Joe can be said to us.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the entire 
group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

the moon looks extremely bright in the morning sky...
Mike Sterling
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Even if he says I had nice legs????


Gary Pittman wrote:

> Come on David, anything you can say to Joe can be said to us.
>
> Gary
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>, "David 
> Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the entire
> group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  



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For those of you who knows Bob Haler, his mother passed away last Sunday.

As a friend and brother in the astronomical community, our deepest 
sympathy and thoughts are with him and his family during this sad time.

I am sure many of you have the same feelings.

Joe Wright

Jen,

Since I can't afford to go the SSSP-yet!, I would love to see an
English language or English subtitle version of that documentary when
you get one.  Or you could pay my way to be your ignorant
spokesperson. :0  Just kidding.
I OFTEN read of how Northerners are so impressed w/the southern skies.
 Does anyone from the south ever come north and say that about our skies?

Grant

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jen Winter - ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
>
> Indoor activities:
> Please note that we don't get out much, so projects get out of 
> control quickly.
> ...And yes, we do know there is something really wrong with us.
> 
> 1:  The ICSTARS train set developed a new wing.   We added a 4'X4' 
> section on the edge of the 8'x8' main board.  It's designed with an 
> arc cut out to nestle the Christmas tree into.   We'll bring it out 
> each winter as this is the time of year the Circus comes to 
> town!  This year we began with a chair-o-plain ride that lights up 
> and spins, a few little stupid throw balls at the bottle booths and a 
> nice concession stand equipped with hundreds of teeny HO scale beer 
> mugs. (How German could that detail be?)  We haven't invested in 
> chair-o-plain riders yet, so mostly it's seated train passengers, a 
> cop and the always busy soccer guy.  The grim reaper seems to ride 
> the chair-o-plain very well standing up.  His sickle holds him 
> in.  next year, we'll add the big top, the ferris wheel or maybe the 
> roller coaster.  Oh, how easy it'd be to blow a couple grand...
> Fred has decided the road bed for cars will be the auto-drive variety 
> where the little cars with internal motors follow the wire buried 
> inside the road bed to drive themselves unattended.  They're pretty 
> expensive, so we'll buy one car at a time.  We all agree that if only 
> one car can drive around all the time on its own, it should be the 
> big brown UPS toy truck.  <woo hoo!>
> 
> 2:  POPCORN HOUR MOVIE VIEWER!
>
http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?module=onlinestore&pluginoption=catalog&task=info&item_id=11&main_id=0&category_id=
> This is Fred heaven.  We now have 100% of our DVD's loaded onto our 
> server.  so it's like 9TB or something, whatever.  We still have like 
> 12TB open.  I don't know.  <insert Fred correcting me here>
> Now, we load a new DVD onto the server.  It lives there happily in 
> solid state (with redundant backup) forever.  Fred scripted an HTML 
> graphical interface where the UPC codes suck down the data about the 
> movie, a jacket cover and a background graphic to go behind the data.
> So now we  sit and surf the movie collection menu by genre without 
> getting up.  No more aimlessly wandering through our minds to 
> remember what movies we have to watch, dig around, find the case.  It 
> has no DVD in it, somebody else's DVD in it, or is scratched.     <we 
> bought a second one for Shadow since she likes to roller skate on
her DVD's>
> 
> 3:  The same-old, same-old stuff.
> Tiling Southern Milky way images into a 27foot square mural for the 
> Tiwanacu museum ceiling. <grumble, hard...>
> new variable bandpass filter options and etalon mapping capacity.
> We can't decide between the All-sky camera or the heliostat as Fred's 
> next project.  Suggestions?  I like all sky.
> Found a REEELLY cool place to see the Jan 2010 - 8 MINUTE LONG 
> annular eclipse in Old Bagan.  Google picture it. yes, that's real.
> still simmering Fiji, China, Tahiti, Tuamotus, Eclipses, India 
> Leonids, maybe another Mongolian Meteorite chase.
> And some german news team wants to do a feature length documentary on 
> the SSSP this year for the IYA 2009.  If anyone wanted to star in a 
> documentary, please call now.  I don't like the camera as much as
Vic did.
> 
> Pretty much the same old stuff.
> OH.  and Shadow doesn't want me to forget she got the new WEATHER 
> RADIO she asked for for Christmas and sleeps with it on her bedside 
> every night.  ON.  ALL NIGHT.   That's our girl.
> 
> Clear skies,
> jen
> 
> At 03:10 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:
> 
> >The cabbage put me off. Should be warm tomorrow. Kensington tours
sent me a
> >teaser on another Africa trip, a 6 day motorcycle trip. I think I
prefer
> >being INSIDE a vehicle instead of inside a lion!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Joseph Wright" <<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>jos.wright@...>
> >To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
> >
> > > That's about enough time to get there from here. ..isn't it.
> > >
> > > Hey everyone, George has invited us for dinner.
> > >
> > > Seating for 150 please.
> > >
> > > #1, plot and lay in a course north.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > George Allen wrote:
> > >
> > >> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all
used to
> > >> be,
> > >> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans.
And slow
> > >> cooking and music. And old movies from netFlix with popcorn.
Winter is a
> > >> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change. Put a
head of
> > >> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some
> > >> taters,
> > >> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair
with the
> > >> latest astronomy book. Start your bread maker on a loaf of
crusty dipping
> > >> bread. Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath. Dinner will be
ready in 4
> > >> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
> > >>
> > >> Geo.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "David Young" 
> > <<mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>>
> > >> To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
> > >>
> > >> >I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the
> > >> >Tahoe.
> > >> > Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again
someday.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> Jen Dudley Winter -
> 
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> 
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I think they say "why is the sky so gray."
> I OFTEN read of how Northerners are so impressed w/the southern skies.
> Does anyone from the south ever come north and say that about our skies?

Sure, he can say whatever he wants, we don't mind. Of course that 
doesn't mean we have to agree with him.

Gary

 --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> Even if he says I had nice legs????
> 
> 
> Gary Pittman wrote:
> 
> > Come on David, anything you can say to Joe can be said to us.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%
40yahoogroups.com>, "David 
> > Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the 
entire
> > group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Uh, some of my comments contain explitives not suitable for the more 
sophisticated readers. The well driller does leak out now and then.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: oops


> Come on David, anything you can say to Joe can be said to us.
>
> Gary
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the entire
> group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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I see your point. Though it probably wouldn't bother me since I'm an 
x-truck driver. <G>

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Uh, some of my comments contain explitives not suitable for the 
more 
> sophisticated readers. The well driller does leak out now and then.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:25 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: oops
> 
> 
> > Come on David, anything you can say to Joe can be said to us.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry that last message was intended for Joe Wright not the 
entire
> > group. Good thing I didn't cuss huh?
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Grant,

Others will have better info. I have heard appreciation for the Big Dipper and the North Star. There is more land mass at high latitude in the North, so more places to see aurora. We also have an unassisted-vision galaxy (Andromeda).

Absolutely everything else is much better south of the equator. We don't have anything to compare with the Magellanic Clouds. Their slice of the Milky Way is lots brighter and every class of object has its prime example down South. Even the Great Orion Nebula is put to shame by the Carina Nebula--and of course M42 is visible from southern latitudes.

I would imagine that the illusion of seeing the sky upside-down is a similar wonder for south-dwellers when they change hemispheres.

I suspect pity is a major aspect of being introduced to Northern skies.

Just guessing,

David Neuenschwander


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

is this just the yahoo group emails or all ASKC members?
Mike Sterling
 
 
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This file contains e-mail addresses for all ASKC members who have 
requested that their e-mail address be published in this file. I can 
not vouch for the validity of these addresses as I print what I 
receive. Some addresses may be old if the people represented in the 
files have not sent me recent address corrections. Likewise there may 
be people included who have chosen to let their ASKC membership lapse.

If anyone finds a name who is no longer a member or an incorrect 
address I ask that you pass the pertinent information along to me so 
I may make corrections to the directory.

Thanks for your assistance.

Clear skies,

Gary Pittman

--- In ASKC@...m, mikekansascity@... wrote:
>
> is this just the yahoo group emails or all ASKC members?
> Mike Sterling
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/17/2009 12:43:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> ASKC@yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> 
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> 
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Please add:

Pat Gruenke
kansaspat1@...

Thanks
Roger


At 15:17 2009-01-17, you wrote:
>This file contains e-mail addresses for all ASKC members who have
>requested that their e-mail address be published in this file. I can
>not vouch for the validity of these addresses as I print what I
>receive. Some addresses may be old if the people represented in the
>files have not sent me recent address corrections. Likewise there may
>be people included who have chosen to let their ASKC membership lapse.
>
>If anyone finds a name who is no longer a member or an incorrect
>address I ask that you pass the pertinent information along to me so
>I may make corrections to the directory.
>
>Thanks for your assistance.
>
>Clear skies,
>
>Gary Pittman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Grant, in answer to your last question, yes, people from the south do come 
north, but not to see our skies.  Mostly to see our pediatricians.
Geo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grant Miller" <mllrgrnt@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Cold but clear


> Jen,
>
> Since I can't afford to go the SSSP-yet!, I would love to see an
> English language or English subtitle version of that documentary when
> you get one.  Or you could pay my way to be your ignorant
> spokesperson. :0  Just kidding.
> I OFTEN read of how Northerners are so impressed w/the southern skies.
> Does anyone from the south ever come north and say that about our skies?
>
> Grant
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jen Winter - ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
>>
>> Indoor activities:
>> Please note that we don't get out much, so projects get out of
>> control quickly.
>> ...And yes, we do know there is something really wrong with us.
>>
>> 1:  The ICSTARS train set developed a new wing.   We added a 4'X4'
>> section on the edge of the 8'x8' main board.  It's designed with an
>> arc cut out to nestle the Christmas tree into.   We'll bring it out
>> each winter as this is the time of year the Circus comes to
>> town!  This year we began with a chair-o-plain ride that lights up
>> and spins, a few little stupid throw balls at the bottle booths and a
>> nice concession stand equipped with hundreds of teeny HO scale beer
>> mugs. (How German could that detail be?)  We haven't invested in
>> chair-o-plain riders yet, so mostly it's seated train passengers, a
>> cop and the always busy soccer guy.  The grim reaper seems to ride
>> the chair-o-plain very well standing up.  His sickle holds him
>> in.  next year, we'll add the big top, the ferris wheel or maybe the
>> roller coaster.  Oh, how easy it'd be to blow a couple grand...
>> Fred has decided the road bed for cars will be the auto-drive variety
>> where the little cars with internal motors follow the wire buried
>> inside the road bed to drive themselves unattended.  They're pretty
>> expensive, so we'll buy one car at a time.  We all agree that if only
>> one car can drive around all the time on its own, it should be the
>> big brown UPS toy truck.  <woo hoo!>
>>
>> 2:  POPCORN HOUR MOVIE VIEWER!
>>
> http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?module=onlinestore&pluginoption=catalog&task=info&item_id=11&main_id=0&category_id=
>> This is Fred heaven.  We now have 100% of our DVD's loaded onto our
>> server.  so it's like 9TB or something, whatever.  We still have like
>> 12TB open.  I don't know.  <insert Fred correcting me here>
>> Now, we load a new DVD onto the server.  It lives there happily in
>> solid state (with redundant backup) forever.  Fred scripted an HTML
>> graphical interface where the UPC codes suck down the data about the
>> movie, a jacket cover and a background graphic to go behind the data.
>> So now we  sit and surf the movie collection menu by genre without
>> getting up.  No more aimlessly wandering through our minds to
>> remember what movies we have to watch, dig around, find the case.  It
>> has no DVD in it, somebody else's DVD in it, or is scratched.     <we
>> bought a second one for Shadow since she likes to roller skate on
> her DVD's>
>>
>> 3:  The same-old, same-old stuff.
>> Tiling Southern Milky way images into a 27foot square mural for the
>> Tiwanacu museum ceiling. <grumble, hard...>
>> new variable bandpass filter options and etalon mapping capacity.
>> We can't decide between the All-sky camera or the heliostat as Fred's
>> next project.  Suggestions?  I like all sky.
>> Found a REEELLY cool place to see the Jan 2010 - 8 MINUTE LONG
>> annular eclipse in Old Bagan.  Google picture it. yes, that's real.
>> still simmering Fiji, China, Tahiti, Tuamotus, Eclipses, India
>> Leonids, maybe another Mongolian Meteorite chase.
>> And some german news team wants to do a feature length documentary on
>> the SSSP this year for the IYA 2009.  If anyone wanted to star in a
>> documentary, please call now.  I don't like the camera as much as
> Vic did.
>>
>> Pretty much the same old stuff.
>> OH.  and Shadow doesn't want me to forget she got the new WEATHER
>> RADIO she asked for for Christmas and sleeps with it on her bedside
>> every night.  ON.  ALL NIGHT.   That's our girl.
>>
>> Clear skies,
>> jen
>>
>> At 03:10 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote:
>>
>> >The cabbage put me off. Should be warm tomorrow. Kensington tours
> sent me a
>> >teaser on another Africa trip, a 6 day motorcycle trip. I think I
> prefer
>> >being INSIDE a vehicle instead of inside a lion!
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Joseph Wright" <<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>jos.wright@...>
>> >To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:30 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>> >
>> > > That's about enough time to get there from here. ..isn't it.
>> > >
>> > > Hey everyone, George has invited us for dinner.
>> > >
>> > > Seating for 150 please.
>> > >
>> > > #1, plot and lay in a course north.
>> > >
>> > > Joe
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > George Allen wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Come on you guys, winter is the young and foolish, like we all
> used to
>> > >> be,
>> > >> but now winter is for books and surfing Google for us veterans.
> And slow
>> > >> cooking and music. And old movies from netFlix with popcorn.
> Winter is a
>> > >> nice time, forces us to sit down and think for a change. Put a
> head of
>> > >> cabbage and a couple pounds of stew meat in the CrockPot with some
>> > >> taters,
>> > >> onions, garlic and carrots, then plop into your favorite chair
> with the
>> > >> latest astronomy book. Start your bread maker on a loaf of
> crusty dipping
>> > >> bread. Set a bottle of burgandy out to breath. Dinner will be
> ready in 4
>> > >> hours. Winter has a perfect purpose for everyone.
>> > >>
>> > >> Geo.
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "David Young"
>> > <<mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com>>
>> > >> To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> > <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> > >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:12 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cold but clear
>> > >>
>> > >> >I decided that my telescope was very happy sitting the back of the
>> > >> >Tahoe.
>> > >> > Too cold for an old guy. I'm confident it will warm up again
> someday.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Jen Dudley Winter -
>>
>> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>>
>> Owner,
>> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Thanks tons for this list.  Who are you yrag?  Cryptyology isn't my strong 
suite.  In fact, I have very few strong suites.  But I need to know where to 
send the roses.

Geo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
> group.
>
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>
> You can access this file at the URL:
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>
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> ------------------------------------
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> 

Hey, I figured it out, or rather Jodee did.  He is Nametipp.  
Geo.  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>

Pittman threw me on that one for a while. I guess it wouldn't work very well 
for some guy named Bob.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC


> Thanks tons for this list.  Who are you yrag?  Cryptyology isn't my strong
> suite.  In fact, I have very few strong suites.  But I need to know where 
> to
> send the roses.
>
> Geo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:42 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC
>
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This email message is a notification to let you know that
>> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
>> group.
>>
>>  File        : /ASKC Email Directory/email.zip
>>  Uploaded by : nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
>>  Description : ASKC E-Mail Directory
>>
>> You can access this file at the URL:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKC%20Email%20Directory/email.zip
>>
>> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
>> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

There will be Girl Scout cookies for sale at the January General Meeting.  If you want to be sure to get the cookies you want, you can e-mail me with your requests.

Please send e-mails directly to me and NOT the group.  I can be reached at:

s.kranz1@...

s.kranz1 (at) comcast.net

The cookies this year are Caramel deLites, Peanut Butter Patties, Shortbread, Thin Mints, Peanut Butter Sandwiches, Thanks-A-Lots, Lemonades, and Daisy Go Rounds.  Prices are still $3.50 a box.

Thanks!
-Scott

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey Young:
�
Are you calling me an unsophisticated reader?� I enjoy pictures you send me.
�
Joe

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wwe would like some of those new little Daisy go Round. I hope I remembered 
that correctly. My mom liked them. 3 boxes please.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <s.kranz1@...>
To: "!_askc" <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: [ASKC] January General Meeting & Girl Scout cookies


> There will be Girl Scout cookies for sale at the January General Meeting. 
> If you want to be sure to get the cookies you want, you can e-mail me with 
> your requests.
>
> Please send e-mails directly to me and NOT the group.  I can be reached 
> at:
>
> s.kranz1@...
>
> s.kranz1 (at) comcast.net
>
> The cookies this year are Caramel deLites, Peanut Butter Patties, 
> Shortbread, Thin Mints, Peanut Butter Sandwiches, Thanks-A-Lots, 
> Lemonades, and Daisy Go Rounds.  Prices are still $3.50 a box.
>
> Thanks!
> -Scott
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

You'll have to spell it out Roger. As you can see, Yahoo strips the 
destination.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Roger Gruenke <rgruenke@...> wrote:
>
> Please add:
> 
> Pat Gruenke
> kansaspat1@...
> 
> Thanks
> Roger
> 
> 
> At 15:17 2009-01-17, you wrote:
> >This file contains e-mail addresses for all ASKC members who have
> >requested that their e-mail address be published in this file. I 
can
> >not vouch for the validity of these addresses as I print what I
> >receive. Some addresses may be old if the people represented in the
> >files have not sent me recent address corrections. Likewise there 
may
> >be people included who have chosen to let their ASKC membership 
lapse.
> >
> >If anyone finds a name who is no longer a member or an incorrect
> >address I ask that you pass the pertinent information along to me 
so
> >I may make corrections to the directory.
> >
> >Thanks for your assistance.
> >
> >Clear skies,
> >
> >Gary Pittman
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Oh come on George, you know who yrag is. Spell it backwards. And 
instead of sending roses lets have another fish fry.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "George  Allen" <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks tons for this list.  Who are you yrag?  Cryptyology isn't my 
strong 
> suite.  In fact, I have very few strong suites.  But I need to know 
where to 
> send the roses.
> 
> Geo.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:42 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC
> 
> 
> >
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> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
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Good for you, er JoDee.

How you guys doing up there? Staying warm I hope.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "George  Allen" <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, I figured it out, or rather Jodee did.  He is Nametipp.  
> Geo.  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>
>

Just an effort to find an e-mail address that doesn't get 762 junk 
mails every day.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Pittman threw me on that one for a while. I guess it wouldn't work 
very well 
> for some guy named Bob.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC
> 
> 
> > Thanks tons for this list.  Who are you yrag?  Cryptyology isn't 
my strong
> > suite.  In fact, I have very few strong suites.  But I need to 
know where 
> > to
> > send the roses.
> >
> > Geo.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:42 PM
> > Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> >> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
> >> group.
> >>
> >>  File        : /ASKC Email Directory/email.zip
> >>  Uploaded by : nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
> >>  Description : ASKC E-Mail Directory
> >>
> >> You can access this file at the URL:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKC%20Email%
20Directory/email.zip
> >>
> >> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> >> 
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm
lfiles
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
>

Darrick - can you tell us what nights our Teams will be on duty?   I must
have missed that email.

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Darrick
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell Observatory Team Schedule

 

Not yet. Still waiting for topics from team leaders. I am not wanting
to rush it out until I am sure of what they want to do.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "gdj561956"
<gdj102356@...> wrote:
>
> Has the 2009 Powell Observatory Team Schedule been posted/printed yet?
> Dan
>

 



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Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or would like to sell.  I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in stock.

I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery last Monday.
I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short.  I don't like crutches and the walkers.  I can use the leg with full weight but need a little better stability during my rehab. 

Any ideas?

Dick Trentman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Darrick and I are looking at the team rosters and will be making some 
changes.  Most notably, disbanding David Young's team.  Having seven 
teams eliminates the hassle of working around a lunar cycle or having 
the same team miss multiple General Meetings.  This will also strengthen 
weaker teams (number wise) and a variety of moon phases.  The Team 
Leaders will not be changing.  We have lost more Key Holders than the 
new appointments.   So, if you absolutely have a preference for any 
particular team, PLEASE let Darrick know with a private email and copy 
it to me, otherwise everyone is fair game to move!

I jumped in to Jackie's message only to keep Darrick from being 
bombarded with a flurry of similar questions.  Actually, he, David and I 
have been discussing this since last fall, but life got in the way of 
getting everything together. 

Joe




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

JoDee got it.  I'm too dumb.  Fish sounds great to me!
Egroeg  Nella  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: New file uploaded to ASKC


> Oh come on George, you know who yrag is. Spell it backwards. And 
> instead of sending roses lets have another fish fry.
> 
> Gary
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "George  Allen" <geonjod@...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks tons for this list.  Who are you yrag?  Cryptyology isn't my 
> strong 
>> suite.  In fact, I have very few strong suites.  But I need to know 
> where to 
>> send the roses.
>> 
>> Geo.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:42 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] New file uploaded to ASKC
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
>> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC
>> > group.
>> >
>> >  File        : /ASKC Email Directory/email.zip
>> >  Uploaded by : nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
>> >  Description : ASKC E-Mail Directory
>> >
>> > You can access this file at the URL:
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKC%20Email%
> 20Directory/email.zip
>> >
>> > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
>> > 
> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm
> lfiles
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Dick, did you have total replacement?  If so, don't go hero on us and try 
too much before the bone has granulated into the metal.
Geo.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dtrent@...>
To: "askc" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:34 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Forearm crutch?


> Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or 
> would like to sell.  I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in 
> stock.
>
> I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery last 
> Monday.
> I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short.  I 
> don't like crutches and the walkers.  I can use the leg with full weight 
> but need a little better stability during my rehab.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dick Trentman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I have some regular crutches Dick, if those would help.    But they are the
"under your arm" type.     

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dtrent@...
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:35 PM
To: askc
Subject: [ASKC] Forearm crutch?

 

Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or would
like to sell. I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in stock.

I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery last
Monday.
I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short. I don't
like crutches and the walkers. I can use the leg with full weight but need a
little better stability during my rehab. 

Any ideas?

Dick Trentman

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Dick, you said you don't like crutches but if you fail to find what you 
want I have a crutch you can borrow.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, dtrent@... wrote:
>
> Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or 
would like to sell.  I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in 
stock.
> 
> I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery 
last Monday.
> I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short.  
I don't like crutches and the walkers.  I can use the leg with full 
weight but need a little better stability during my rehab. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Dick Trentman
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks, Joe.   As a team leader, we like to know what our tentative dates
are so we can plan an appropriate program.   It's always helpful to do a
program on something the folks can actually see that very night.  

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Wright
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:07 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Team Changes

 



Darrick and I are looking at the team rosters and will be making some 
changes. Most notably, disbanding David Young's team. Having seven 
teams eliminates the hassle of working around a lunar cycle or having 
the same team miss multiple General Meetings. This will also strengthen 
weaker teams (number wise) and a variety of moon phases. The Team 
Leaders will not be changing. We have lost more Key Holders than the 
new appointments. So, if you absolutely have a preference for any 
particular team, PLEASE let Darrick know with a private email and copy 
it to me, otherwise everyone is fair game to move!

I jumped in to Jackie's message only to keep Darrick from being 
bombarded with a flurry of similar questions. Actually, he, David and I 
have been discussing this since last fall, but life got in the way of 
getting everything together. 

Joe

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No, I didn't.  I had a PKR  Partial Knee Resurfacing and the Dr said there are no restrictions as to weight or movement like there is on a Total Knee Replacement.  


-------------- Original message from "George Allen" <geonjod@...>: -------------- 


> Dick, did you have total replacement? If so, don't go hero on us and try 
> too much before the bone has granulated into the metal. 
> Geo. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: 
> To: "askc" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:34 PM 
> Subject: [ASKC] Forearm crutch? 
> 
> 
> > Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or 
> > would like to sell. I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in 
> > stock. 
> > 
> > I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery last 
> > Monday. 
> > I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short. I 
> > don't like crutches and the walkers. I can use the leg with full weight 
> > but need a little better stability during my rehab. 
> > 
> > Any ideas? 
> > 
> > Dick Trentman 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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I have those too.  The type I want is much better if your arm is strong enough.  I have much better control with the forearm crutch and it doesn't hamper walking up or down steps like a regular crutch will.  The one I have is for a child under 5 feet tall but it does work better for me than a walker or standard crutches.   I am just trying to find one for my height 5'8" or so.
Thanks for the offers of regular types.

-------------- Original message from Jackie Beucher <m31@...>: -------------- 


> I have some regular crutches Dick, if those would help. But they are the 
> "under your arm" type. 
> 
> 
> 
> Jackie 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> dtrent@... 
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:35 PM 
> To: askc 
> Subject: [ASKC] Forearm crutch? 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there anyone out there with a forearm crutch they are not using or would 
> like to sell. I tried Pharmacies today and none carry them in stock. 
> 
> I could use one for 2-3 weeks while my knee heals up from surgery last 
> Monday. 
> I have one that is too short and it works fine other than too short. I don't 
> like crutches and the walkers. I can use the leg with full weight but need a 
> little better stability during my rehab. 
> 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> Dick Trentman 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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The teams have been rearranged and I am currently getting the team
schedule ready. I hope to have it posted by the weeks end. 

Darrick

who did you swap?

Darrick wrote:

> The teams have been rearranged and I am currently getting the team
> schedule ready. I hope to have it posted by the weeks end.
>
> Darrick
>
>  



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Joe - you and David are on each week..........
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2009 10:45:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
jos.wright@... writes:

 
 
 
who did you swap?

Darrick wrote:

> The teams have been  rearranged and I am currently getting the team
> schedule ready. I hope  to have it posted by the weeks end.
>
> Darrick
>
>  

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never mind

Joseph Wright wrote:

> who did you swap?
>
> Darrick wrote:
>
> > The teams have been rearranged and I am currently getting the team
> > schedule ready. I hope to have it posted by the weeks end.
> >
> > Darrick
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  



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Saturday afternoon I installed a weather station at Powell.

It gives:

Indoor/Outdoor Temp
Wind Speed
Wind Direction
Barometric Pressure
Relative Humidity  (doesn't tell relatives when to leave!)
Rain Amount

It interfaces with a computer and has stand alone display.  Is radio 
remote or hard wired. 

The plan is to connect it to the a Powell Web site with a sky camera.

Joe



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Oh boy!  Hey Larry, hey Moe.  Who's Curly Joe and Shemp?

Joe

mikekansascity@... wrote:

> Joe - you and David are on each week..........
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2009 10:45:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> writes:
>
> who did you swap?
>
> Darrick wrote:
>
> > The teams have been rearranged and I am currently getting the team
> > schedule ready. I hope to have it posted by the weeks end.
> >
> > Darrick
> >
> >
>
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Sad to say you are about to be disappointed again.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <mikekansascity@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] powell schedule


> Joe - you and David are on each week..........
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2009 10:45:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> jos.wright@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> who did you swap?
>
> Darrick wrote:
>
>> The teams have been  rearranged and I am currently getting the team
>> schedule ready. I hope  to have it posted by the weeks end.
>>
>> Darrick
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>
>
>
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Does it tell when to open and close the dome?
mmm.. guess that would be obvious when water drops appear in the eyepiece.  
   ;-)


-------------- Original message from Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>: -------------- 


> Saturday afternoon I installed a weather station at Powell. 
> 
> It gives: 
> 
> Indoor/Outdoor Temp 
> Wind Speed 
> Wind Direction 
> Barometric Pressure 
> Relative Humidity (doesn't tell relatives when to leave!) 
> Rain Amount 
> 
> It interfaces with a computer and has stand alone display. Is radio 
> remote or hard wired. 
> 
> The plan is to connect it to the a Powell Web site with a sky camera. 
> 
> Joe 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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  Dick,if you don't find a crutch ,you could always do a tubing graft.

Larry G

That's good thinking.  Super glue should be a good adhesive to make it stick, or Elmers and be sure to keep it dry.  ;-)

-------------- Original message from "larry goode" <lagoode916@...>: -------------- 


> Dick,if you don't find a crutch ,you could always do a tubing graft. 
> 
> Larry G 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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Anyone interested in doing this please let me know.

Subject: Re: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet


I thought I would give you an update as to our Blue and Gold Banquet.  Apparently, this evening will now be primarily used to have the 5th grade boys fly up to scouts and the overall Pack will wait until later in the year to give the other troops their achievements (to allow them more time to complete them).  We will move forward with the stars theme for this event, but are not in need of any formal presentation or extension entertainment.  We may wish to reserve that until later in April for the overall Pack meeting.  However, we are still interested if you have anything that can be visually entertaining, such a have a large telescope, or a large poster of constellations or something of that nature for display.  Also, we'd be happy to have any handouts available for individual troops to consider for scout field trips to the observatory.
I wanted to keep you updated so you don't waste much energy trying to seek a bunch of volunteers.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Uh, when and where?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in doing this please let me know.
> 
> Subject: Re: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet
> 
> 
> I thought I would give you an update as to our Blue and Gold 
Banquet.  Apparently, this evening will now be primarily used to 
have the 5th grade boys fly up to scouts and the overall Pack will 
wait until later in the year to give the other troops their 
achievements (to allow them more time to complete them).  We will 
move forward with the stars theme for this event, but are not in 
need of any formal presentation or extension entertainment.  We may 
wish to reserve that until later in April for the overall Pack 
meeting.  However, we are still interested if you have anything that 
can be visually entertaining, such a have a large telescope, or a 
large poster of constellations or something of that nature for 
display.  Also, we'd be happy to have any handouts available for 
individual troops to consider for scout field trips to the 
observatory.
> I wanted to keep you updated so you don't waste much energy trying 
to seek a bunch of volunteers.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 4:25 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Fw: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet seeking entertainment






















    

            
Any volunteers for this?



----- Original Message ----- 

From: crisangles@... 

To: dyoung8@... 

Cc: LGrsng@... ; canoebabe@... 

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:17 PM

Subject: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet seeking entertainment



Dear Mr. Young.

It was a pleasure speaking with you on the phone yesterday about the Powell Observatory.  As I mentioned our 4th grade boys scout troop is in charge of the annual Nativity Blue and Gold Banquet honoring boy scout achievements for troop in grades 1st - 5th and their families.  This event will to be held on Tuesday, February 17 from 6-8pm.  I believe the evening will be held in our Nativity Church parish hall.  We are located at 119th & Mission Road in Leawood, Kansas. 

We are considering the theme being about the stars and are hoping to find some kind of entertainment related to that.  We have AV equipment access and tables to be able to display telescopes.  Might you have any presentations or volunteers that would be willing to come this evening?  We welcome any suggestions or assistance with this.

Thank you,

Cristina Angles

h 913 696-0006

c 913 481-9500

Crisangles@...



cc: Lisa Grasing (4th grade Troop Leader)

Amy Vlassic (2nd grade scout mom; Leawood Parks and Rec. committee member)



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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Off site at Briarwood School science night
Thursday January 22, 2009
6:00 pm - 2:00 am

Notes:
Inside displays only
no telescopes outside in the cold !
contact is Richard Fredrick


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The original message sent January 9 indicated February 17 from 6:00 to 8:00 
PM. No one responded so I thought I'd put it out one more time since the 
lady called and asked about it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Fw: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet


> Uh, when and where?
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone interested in doing this please let me know.
>>
>> Subject: Re: Nativity Scouts Blue and Gold Banquet
>>
>>
>> I thought I would give you an update as to our Blue and Gold
> Banquet.  Apparently, this evening will now be primarily used to
> have the 5th grade boys fly up to scouts and the overall Pack will
> wait until later in the year to give the other troops their
> achievements (to allow them more time to complete them).  We will
> move forward with the stars theme for this event, but are not in
> need of any formal presentation or extension entertainment.  We may
> wish to reserve that until later in April for the overall Pack
> meeting.  However, we are still interested if you have anything that
> can be visually entertaining, such a have a large telescope, or a
> large poster of constellations or something of that nature for
> display.  Also, we'd be happy to have any handouts available for
> individual troops to consider for scout field trips to the
> observatory.
>> I wanted to keep you updated so you don't waste much energy trying
> to seek a bunch of volunteers.
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

>            
> Any volunteers for this?
not yet

If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 

Darrick

I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the different
objects in the sky.
Star Clusters, Nebulae
Galaxies
Planets
Satellites
 
I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I do YIA
2009/ Outreach .

Thanks 


David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager


 

You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...

http://www.pbase.com/martyt/astro

-Marty


On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:

> I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the different
> objects in the sky.
> Star Clusters, Nebulae
> Galaxies
> Planets
> Satellites
>
> I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I do YIA
> 2009/ Outreach .
>
> Thanks
>
>
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Same here.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1844355549/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1675355602/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1276357139/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1564348722/pic/list

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/martyt/astro
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the 
different
> > objects in the sky.
> > Star Clusters, Nebulae
> > Galaxies
> > Planets
> > Satellites
> >
> > I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I 
do YIA
> > 2009/ Outreach .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > David M. Fox
> > Information Systems Manager
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Feel free to use any of these.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/starznguitarz/

John




________________________________
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:06:43 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Looking for Pictures


Same here.

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1844355549/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1675355602/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1276357139/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1564348722/ pic/list

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...
> 
> http://www.pbase. com/martyt/ astro
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the 
different
> > objects in the sky.
> > Star Clusters, Nebulae
> > Galaxies
> > Planets
> > Satellites
> >
> > I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I 
do YIA
> > 2009/ Outreach .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > David M. Fox
> > Information Systems Manager
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You all have some great photos!!!
 
 
Still looking for more........  Anyone Else????
 
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Darrick-

 

I'll be there. Any special tools or equipment you think you might need?

 

--eric bogatin

 

  

 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Darrick
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th

 

If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 

Darrick

 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> 
> Darrick
>

Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of the 
top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to the 
floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp we 
can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be very 
effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten metal 
if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.

Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we can 
use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back here 
tomorrow.

Just received on the MSRAL E-Group. Thought I would pass it along for 
your consideration.

-------------------------

You are a good man, Cook. I hope more folks will follow your lead and 
get
those reservations and registrations in soon.

As to agenda, it is still pretty basic. We will have papers presented 
on
Saturday from 1:00pm to 5:00 pm, banquet from 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm. The
business meeting will be Sunday from 9:00 am to 10:00 am, papers from 
10:00
am to Noon. We may move the business meeting up to 8:00 am if we get 
more
papers.

The CMAA folks have promised to open Morrison Observatory in Fayette 
on
Friday night before the convention and on Saturday night after the 
banquet -
weather permitting, of course.

While we are at it, we still have room for some more papers. We would
really like to hear about what various clubs are doing vis a vis IYA,
promoting astronomy in general and building membership. Individual 
projects
such as astro photography, telescope and instrument making, etc are 
great
subjects too. Send your title, abstract and time requested straight to
Wayne Clark at wclark3@....

We also are seeking nominations for Amateur of the Year. There must be
someone in your area who deserves this recognition. Send your 
nomination to
me at jim.roe@....

We also need some group to come forward to host the 2010 convention. 
I'm
hoping that this new format will appeal to others as a simpler way to 
do
things than they have been done in the past, thereby minimizing 
strains on
individuals. Remember, the official way to do this is via a vote of 
the
membership at the business meeting. A good presentation will help.

All of you can help by getting this information out quickly. If you 
know of
someone in a neighboring club that isn't getting the word, urge them 
to sign
up for this list.

Jim Roe
2009 MSRAL Chairperson

Gary:

Thanks for sending this out to remind us of the conference.  Dave Young 
is thinking of attending.  Anyone else?

Thanks,
Joe

 From my dark side...............who wants to stand up and report "not 
much enthusiasm on behalf of the ASKC Board other than have Powell open 
for IYA at the MSRAL as requested below?



<>Excerpt from original message
******************************************************
While we are at it, we still have room for some more papers. We would
really like to hear about what various clubs are doing vis a vis IYA,
promoting astronomy in general and building membership. Individual
projects
such as astro photography, telescope and instrument making, etc are
great
subjects too. Send your title, abstract and time requested straight to
Wayne Clark at wclark3@... <mailto:wclark3%40cs.com>.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Rick is almost certain he does not have one. Said he would check to be 
positive.
M
On Jan 21, 2009, at 5:06 PM, dyoung8us wrote:

> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>  > happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
> hands
>  > wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>  >
>  > Darrick
>  >
>
>  Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of the
>  top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to the
>  floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp we
>  can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be very
>  effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten metal
>  if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.
>
>  Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we can
>  use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back here
>  tomorrow.
>
>  
>       

I'll look around.  I know I have one somewhere.

Joe

Just to get us all in the proper frame of mind, here's an oldie 
(cf, "vinyl records") but a goodie ...


A Compendium Of Tools And Their Uses:

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching 
flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the 
chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-
painted part which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing 
could get to it.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere 
under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes 
fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time 
it takes you to say, "What the...??!!"

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their 
holes until you die of old age.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation 
of blood-blisters.

BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor 
touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board 
principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable 
motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more 
dismal your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt 
heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to 
transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

WELDING GLOVES: Heavy duty leather gloves used to prolong the 
conduction of intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various 
flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the 
grease inside the wheel hub you want the bearing race out of.

TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch 
wood projectiles with the speed of a ballistic missile for testing 
wall integrity.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground 
after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack 
handle firmly under the bumper.

EIGHT-FOOT LONG YELLOW PINE 2 X 4: Used for levering an automobile 
upward off a trapped hydraulic jack handle.

E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool ten times harder than any 
known drill bit that snaps neatly off in bolt holes thereby ending 
any possible future use.

BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops 
to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit 
into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead 
of the outside edge.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile 
strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 24-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A very large pry bar that 
inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end 
opposite the handle.

AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under 
lids and for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing 
oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to 
strip out Phillips screw heads.

STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used 
to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or 
bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays 
is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts 
adjacent to the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of 
cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly 
well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic 
bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic 
parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while 
wearing them.

SKILL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.

DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the 
garage while yelling ''DAMMIT'' at the top of your lungs. It is 
also, most often, the next tool that you will need.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "dyoung8us" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@> wrote:
> >
> > If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> > happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
hands
> > wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> > 
> > Darrick
> >
> 
> Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of 
the 
> top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to 
the 
> floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp 
we 
> can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be 
very 
> effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten 
metal 
> if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.
> 
> Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we 
can 
> use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back 
here 
> tomorrow.
>

I have canceled our participation in tomorrow night's Science Night at
Briarwood Elementary School in Prairie Village. If anyone was planning
on coming out and I hadn't heard from you please remove it from your
calendars.

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> 
> Darrick


I plan to be there.

Cheryl and I are working on observing, but we find that we are not well cut 
out for cold nights. On a recent vacation, sitting in an outdoor hot tub, we 
noticed that we could see the stars quite nicely, and comfortably. Is there 
any award program designed for this venue? Scopes would probably not be 
useful, but a pair of waterproof binos might work. - Don 

Don:

I considered taking a portable hot tub to the Great Plains a few years 
ago.  I figured the steam rising wouldn't be good for the optics.  Dave 
Young and I considered for the DSS also.  Water is cheap in Butler.  I 
thought I would use a trailer with 7K lbs axles and haul water and a 
stock tank.  Dave had a pump.  We thought we could build a simple version. 

Oh yes, how nice would it be.....hot tub and stars.

After the star party, we thought we could rent it out for sorority parties.

Joe

After?!  Why not DURING?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
> 
> Oh yes, how nice would it be.....hot tub and stars.
> 
> After the star party, we thought we could rent it out for sorority 
parties.
> 
> Joe
>

Galileo needs to get his eyes examined!  What next! 



Check out this article: 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791775/ 





-scott

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

David,

Feel free to use any of mine: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_spalding/
(Right click on a picture to download)
Let me know if you would rather have me email you a picture.

Doug Spalding

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, " David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> You all have some great photos!!!
>  
>  
> Still looking for more........  Anyone Else????
>  
>  
> 
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

JoDee and I also like to star gaze in the hot tub, but only one of us at a 
time.
Geo.  :-(o)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Grodecki" <don@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:35 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Hot Tub at DSS?


> Cheryl and I are working on observing, but we find that we are not well 
> cut
> out for cold nights. On a recent vacation, sitting in an outdoor hot tub, 
> we
> noticed that we could see the stars quite nicely, and comfortably. Is 
> there
> any award program designed for this venue? Scopes would probably not be
> useful, but a pair of waterproof binos might work. - Don
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

He didn't commit a crime so why disturb his sleep.

Next somone will suggest a paternity test for Mary's baby......!!!!!   If they can find a body and the money (federal grant) to pay for it.



-------------- Original message from s.kranz1@...: -------------- 


> 
> 
> 
> Galileo needs to get his eyes examined!  What next! 
> 
> 
> 
> Check out this article: 
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28791775/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> He didn't commit a crime so why disturb his sleep.

Dick,  that's not exactly what the Vatican said back when he was alive...

I think they disturbed him when he was awake AND asleep.

Rick Henderson

Hi everyone, is the ASKC general meeting this saturday? And, it is still at UMKC? :) What time does the festivities begin :)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey Keith!  Long time no hear from! 



Yes, this Saturday at UMKC at 7pm, room 104 (the room that opens onto the street). 



See you there! 



-Scott 






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:15:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting 






Hi everyone, is the ASKC general meeting this saturday? And, it is still at UMKC? :) What time does the festivities begin :) 

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 I have put down to attend and do a presentation about the comet observing award program etc.I am hoping things will work out to go.
? I will attend the luncheon at night. I would be interested to know if anyone else is going up /drive together . I can't afford a $100 a night for lodging but depending on things, I could better afford rooming with others or finding a less costly hotel nearby.

?Anyone interested please send me an email off the listing. Thanks

Eric Flescher
**



3b. Re: MSRAL Convention
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:36 pm ((PST))

Gary:

Thanks for sending this out to remind us of the conference.  Dave Young 
is thinking of attending.  Anyone else?

Thanks,
Joe

 From my dark side...............who wants to stand up and report "not 
much enthusiasm on behalf of the ASKC Board other than have Powell open 
for IYA at the MSRAL as requested below?




 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 8:57 am
Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4463










There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Looking for Pictures    
    From: David
1b. Re: Looking for Pictures    
    From: Marty Tippin
1c. Re: Looking for Pictures    
    From: Jay Manifold
1d. Re: Looking for Pictures    
    From: John Gordon
1e. Re: Looking for Pictures    
    From: David

2a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: eric bogatin
2b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: dyoung8us
2c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Marcia Young
2d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Joseph Wright
2e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jay Manifold
2f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Charles Kennedy

3a. MSRAL Convention    
    From: Gary Pittman
3b. Re: MSRAL Convention    
    From: Joseph Wright

4. Briarwood Science Night - Participation Canceled    
    From: Richard Fredrick


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Looking for Pictures
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:45 am ((PST))

I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the different
objects in the sky.
Star Clusters, Nebulae
Galaxies
Planets
Satellites
 
I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I do YIA
2009/ Outreach .

Thanks 


David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager


 



Messages in this topic (8)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Looking for Pictures
    Posted by: "Marty Tippin" martyt@... nw0l
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:50 am ((PST))

You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...

http://www.pbase.com/martyt/astro

-Marty


On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:

> I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the different
> objects in the sky.
> Star Clusters, Nebulae
> Galaxies
> Planets
> Satellites
>
> I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I do YIA
> 2009/ Outreach .
>
> Thanks
>
>
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (8)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Looking for Pictures
    Posted by: "Jay Manifold" jaymanifold@... jay_manifold
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:06 am ((PST))

Same here.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1844355549/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1675355602/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1276357139/pic/list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/photos/album/1564348722/pic/list

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/martyt/astro
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the 
different
> > objects in the sky.
> > Star Clusters, Nebulae
> > Galaxies
> > Planets
> > Satellites
> >
> > I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I 
do YIA
> > 2009/ Outreach .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > David M. Fox
> > Information Systems Manager
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




Messages in this topic (8)
________________________________________________________________________
1d. Re: Looking for Pictures
    Posted by: "John Gordon" starznguitarz@... starznguitarz
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:23 am ((PST))

Feel free to use any of these.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/starznguitarz/

John




________________________________
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:06:43 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Looking for Pictures


Same here.

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1844355549/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1675355602/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1276357139/ pic/list

http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ASKC/ photos/album/ 1564348722/ pic/list

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> You're welcome to use any of the images I've taken...
> 
> http://www.pbase. com/martyt/ astro
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David <dfox@...> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the 
different
> > objects in the sky.
> > Star Clusters, Nebulae
> > Galaxies
> > Planets
> > Satellites
> >
> > I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I 
do YIA
> > 2009/ Outreach .
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > David M. Fox
> > Information Systems Manager
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (8)
________________________________________________________________________
1e. Re: Looking for Pictures
    Posted by: "David" dfox@... foxstar101
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:45 am ((PST))

You all have some great photos!!!
 
 
Still looking for more........  Anyone Else????
 
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (8)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "eric bogatin" eric@... bogatinE
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:30 pm ((PST))

Darrick-

 

I'll be there. Any special tools or equipment you think you might need?

 

--eric bogatin

 

  

 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Darrick
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th

 

If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 

Darrick

 



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2b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "dyoung8us" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:06 pm ((PST))

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> 
> Darrick
>

Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of the 
top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to the 
floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp we 
can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be very 
effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten metal 
if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.

Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we can 
use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back here 
tomorrow.



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2c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Marcia Young" mryoung@... m2yng
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:26 pm ((PST))

Rick is almost certain he does not have one. Said he would check to be 
positive.
M
On Jan 21, 2009, at 5:06 PM, dyoung8us wrote:

> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>  > happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
> hands
>  > wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>  >
>  > Darrick
>  >
>
>  Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of the
>  top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to the
>  floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp we
>  can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be very
>  effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten metal
>  if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.
>
>  Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we can
>  use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back here
>  tomorrow.
>
>  
>       



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2d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:27 pm ((PST))

I'll look around.  I know I have one somewhere.

Joe


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2e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jay Manifold" jaymanifold@... jay_manifold
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:40 pm ((PST))

Just to get us all in the proper frame of mind, here's an oldie 
(cf, "vinyl records") but a goodie ...


A Compendium Of Tools And Their Uses:

DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching 
flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the 
chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-
painted part which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing 
could get to it.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere 
under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes 
fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time 
it takes you to say, "What the...??!!"

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their 
holes until you die of old age.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation 
of blood-blisters.

BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor 
touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board 
principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable 
motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more 
dismal your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt 
heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to 
transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

WELDING GLOVES: Heavy duty leather gloves used to prolong the 
conduction of intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various 
flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the 
grease inside the wheel hub you want the bearing race out of.

TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch 
wood projectiles with the speed of a ballistic missile for testing 
wall integrity.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground 
after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack 
handle firmly under the bumper.

EIGHT-FOOT LONG YELLOW PINE 2 X 4: Used for levering an automobile 
upward off a trapped hydraulic jack handle.

E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool ten times harder than any 
known drill bit that snaps neatly off in bolt holes thereby ending 
any possible future use.

BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops 
to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit 
into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead 
of the outside edge.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile 
strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.

CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 24-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A very large pry bar that 
inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end 
opposite the handle.

AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under 
lids and for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing 
oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to 
strip out Phillips screw heads.

STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used 
to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or 
bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays 
is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts 
adjacent to the object we are trying to hit.

MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of 
cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly 
well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic 
bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic 
parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while 
wearing them.

SKILL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.

DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the 
garage while yelling ''DAMMIT'' at the top of your lungs. It is 
also, most often, the next tool that you will need.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "dyoung8us" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@> wrote:
> >
> > If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> > happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
hands
> > wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> > 
> > Darrick
> >
> 
> Little project my foot. We're gonna tear the shutter motor out of 
the 
> top of the dome! Well maybe we'll unbolt it and gently lower it to 
the 
> floor? I hope we don't need the torch. Anybody have a canvas tarp 
we 
> can use to cover the scope? I'm afraid a plastic tarp wouldn't be 
very 
> effective. I have a leather apron we could use to deflect molten 
metal 
> if it comes to that but the guy holding it might yelp now and then.
> 
> Yo hooo....Marcia call Rick and ask him if he has a canvas tarp we 
can 
> use Saturday. Number is in the club directory. I'll check back 
here 
> tomorrow.
>




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2f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Charles Kennedy" ck5000@... chuckymargola
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:56 pm ((PST))

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> 
> Darrick


I plan to be there.



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3a. MSRAL Convention
    Posted by: "Gary Pittman" yrag1919@... nexstar11
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:12 pm ((PST))

Just received on the MSRAL E-Group. Thought I would pass it along for 
your consideration.

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You are a good man, Cook. I hope more folks will follow your lead and 
get
those reservations and registrations in soon.

As to agenda, it is still pretty basic. We will have papers presented 
on
Saturday from 1:00pm to 5:00 pm, banquet from 6:00 pm to 8:30 pm. The
business meeting will be Sunday from 9:00 am to 10:00 am, papers from 
10:00
am to Noon. We may move the business meeting up to 8:00 am if we get 
more
papers.

The CMAA folks have promised to open Morrison Observatory in Fayette 
on
Friday night before the convention and on Saturday night after the 
banquet -
weather permitting, of course.

While we are at it, we still have room for some more papers. We would
really like to hear about what various clubs are doing vis a vis IYA,
promoting astronomy in general and building membership. Individual 
projects
such as astro photography, telescope and instrument making, etc are 
great
subjects too. Send your title, abstract and time requested straight to
Wayne Clark at wclark3@....

We also are seeking nominations for Amateur of the Year. There must be
someone in your area who deserves this recognition. Send your 
nomination to
me at jim.roe@....

We also need some group to come forward to host the 2010 convention. 
I'm
hoping that this new format will appeal to others as a simpler way to 
do
things than they have been done in the past, thereby minimizing 
strains on
individuals. Remember, the official way to do this is via a vote of 
the
membership at the business meeting. A good presentation will help.

All of you can help by getting this information out quickly. If you 
know of
someone in a neighboring club that isn't getting the word, urge them 
to sign
up for this list.

Jim Roe
2009 MSRAL Chairperson




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3b. Re: MSRAL Convention
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:36 pm ((PST))

Gary:

Thanks for sending this out to remind us of the conference.  Dave Young 
is thinking of attending.  Anyone else?

Thanks,
Joe

 From my dark side...............who wants to stand up and report "not 
much enthusiasm on behalf of the ASKC Board other than have Powell open 
for IYA at the MSRAL as requested below?



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While we are at it, we still have room for some more papers. We would
really like to hear about what various clubs are doing vis a vis IYA,
promoting astronomy in general and building membership. Individual
projects
such as astro photography, telescope and instrument making, etc are
great
subjects too. Send your title, abstract and time requested straight to
Wayne Clark at wclark3@... <mailto:wclark3%40cs.com>.



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4. Briarwood Science Night - Participation Canceled
    Posted by: "Richard Fredrick" gazer649@... rkfredrick
    Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:40 pm ((PST))

I have canceled our participation in tomorrow night's Science Night at
Briarwood Elementary School in Prairie Village. If anyone was planning
on coming out and I hadn't heard from you please remove it from your
calendars.

Sincerely,

Richard Fredrick




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Not sure how many CGE owners we have or whether those folks follow 
the CGE yahoo group, but...

There's a new version of the CGE firmware available (4.15) which 
includes the ability to use *any* star to do a polar alignment of the 
mount (functionality that was introduced with the CGEM and now CGE 
Pro mounts). Best results come from stars near the intersection of 
the meridian and the celestial equator, but you no longer always have 
to do the alignment on Polaris. Additionally, after the new polar 
alignment, you no longer have to do the 2-star alignment procedure to 
make your GOTO's accurate.

Easiest way to get the new firmware is to launch your copy of 
HCUpdate and tell it to check for updates on the web.

-Marty

Keith,
Astronomy 101 starts at 6 pm, same place.
Topic this month will be binoculars.
So, people will be around well before the 7pm meeting start!
Hope to see you there.
Kathy.
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] General Meeting




Hey Keith! Long time no hear from!



Yes, this Saturday at UMKC at 7pm, room 104 (the room that opens onto the 
street).



See you there!



-Scott






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:15:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting






Hi everyone, is the ASKC general meeting this saturday? And, it is still at 
UMKC? :) What time does the festivities begin :)

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"One of the 'errors' that Galileo made, which Galluzzi suspects may 
have been attributed to his bad eyesight, is that he believed Saturn 
not perfectly round but may have had an irregular, inflated side.

"With his 20-power telescope and with his eyes in bad shape he might 
have mistaken Saturn's gaseous ring to surmise that it was formed of 
one planet with two moons as satellites."


Well, there's a couple of *journalistic* crimes right there ... 
Saturn ISN'T round, and its rings aren't "gaseous."

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > He didn't commit a crime so why disturb his sleep.
> 
> Dick,  that's not exactly what the Vatican said back when he was 
alive...
> 
> I think they disturbed him when he was awake AND asleep.
> 
> Rick Henderson
>

A colleague of mine, Nancy Holcroft of Johnson County Community
College is looking for one or more volunteers to run the astronomy
part of the KS NE regional Science Olympiad. One set of tasks is for
Middle School, the other for High School. Time table is later
February. As I understand it, the tasks include identification of DSOs
and stars and the ability to use such things as the HR diagram. it
does not involve observing.

If any ASKC members have experience with such activities or are
interested in volunteering, please email me at

edwiley at sunflower dot com

and I will send PDFs of the particulars and/or put you in touch with
Nancy.

Ed Wiley

I have a few loaded on Flickr. Try people and ewiley

Ed

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, " David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for picture that our members have taken of all the different
> objects in the sky.
> Star Clusters, Nebulae
> Galaxies
> Planets
> Satellites
>  
> I'm putting together a small notebook/book to show people when I do YIA
> 2009/ Outreach .
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> 
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
>

Kathy,

Would you like me to bring any/all of
the following for visual aid/display?

25x100	Celestron SkyMaster
20x80	Barska
15x70	Barska
10x60	(no name)
10x50	Bushnell
10x25	Simmons
 7x50	(no name)
 7x35	Swift
 8x21	Gordon(?)
 2x25	"occupied Japan"

-John


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
> ...
> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
> Topic this month will be binoculars.

David,

I don't know if there's anything you can use here;
mostly a rank beginner's efforts from back in the
35mm film days, they don't compare with what you've
got already, that the guys are producing these days
with digitals and software. Certainly nothing you
would call great, but you're welcome to them. :}

http://home.comcast.net/~john.cravens/photos.htm

-John


--- David Fox wrote:
>
> You all have some great photos!!!
>  
> Still looking for more........  Anyone Else????
> 
> David M. Fox

Cool, thanks Scott and Kathy, I will do my best to be there, I have missed astromony and want to get back into it. Specially before the Messier Marathon starts :)


  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] General Meeting




  Hey Keith!  Long time no hear from! 

  Yes, this Saturday at UMKC at 7pm, room 104 (the room that opens onto the street). 

  See you there! 

  -Scott 

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  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:15:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
  Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting 

  Hi everyone, is the ASKC general meeting this saturday? And, it is still at UMKC? :) What time does the festivities begin :) 

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I have a pair of Binomites.  There are the compact, solar binoculars.  I 
carry them in the glovebox of whitey.  If you would like a pair of 
special use for the program. 

Joe

And now they wonder why nobody pays any attention to them when they 
talk?

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > He didn't commit a crime so why disturb his sleep.
> 
> Dick,  that's not exactly what the Vatican said back when he was 
alive...
> 
> I think they disturbed him when he was awake AND asleep.
> 
> Rick Henderson
>

Oh yeah, thanks Kathy!  I'd forgot about Astronomy 101.  Good topic too! 




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From: "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@kc.rr.com> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:30:58 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] General Meeting 






Keith, 
Astronomy 101 starts at 6 pm, same place. 
Topic this month will be binoculars. 
So, people will be around well before the 7pm meeting start! 
Hope to see you there. 
Kathy. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: < s.kranz1@... > 
To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] General Meeting 

Hey Keith! Long time no hear from! 

Yes, this Saturday at UMKC at 7pm, room 104 (the room that opens onto the 
street). 

See you there! 

-Scott 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" < keithkc@... > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:15:55 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] General Meeting 

Hi everyone, is the ASKC general meeting this saturday? And, it is still at 
UMKC? :) What time does the festivities begin :) 

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Kathy,  I could bring my Gruenke bino mount as well, if you want. 



-Scott 


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From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:48:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting 






I have a pair of Binomites. There are the compact, solar binoculars. I 
carry them in the glovebox of whitey. If you would like a pair of 
special use for the program. 

Joe 


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OK, that would be a good addition!
Kathy
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting




Kathy, I could bring my Gruenke bino mount as well, if you want. 



-Scott 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:48:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting 






I have a pair of Binomites. There are the compact, solar binoculars. I 
carry them in the glovebox of whitey. If you would like a pair of 
special use for the program. 

Joe 


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Excellent!
Kathy
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From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting


>I have a pair of Binomites.  There are the compact, solar binoculars.  I 
> carry them in the glovebox of whitey.  If you would like a pair of 
> special use for the program. 
> 
> Joe
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

How about one roof prism and one porro prism, your choice
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting


> Kathy,
> 
> Would you like me to bring any/all of
> the following for visual aid/display?
> 
> 25x100 Celestron SkyMaster
> 20x80 Barska
> 15x70 Barska
> 10x60 (no name)
> 10x50 Bushnell
> 10x25 Simmons
> 7x50 (no name)
> 7x35 Swift
> 8x21 Gordon(?)
> 2x25 "occupied Japan"
> 
> -John
> 
> 
> --- Kathy Machin wrote:
>> ...
>> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
>> Topic this month will be binoculars.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

KATHY:

I KNOW WHY I AM UP..............WORKING ON DRAWINGS.  (HENCE, CAP LOCK ON)

SLEEP SOUNDS GOOD IN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR HOURS. 

JOE

I have some potential conflicts but may have an interest.
Dan Johnson




--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Wiley" <edwiley@...> wrote:
>
> A colleague of mine, Nancy Holcroft of Johnson County Community
> College is looking for one or more volunteers to run the astronomy
> part of the KS NE regional Science Olympiad. One set of tasks is for
> Middle School, the other for High School. Time table is later
> February. As I understand it, the tasks include identification of 
DSOs
> and stars and the ability to use such things as the HR diagram. it
> does not involve observing.
> 
> If any ASKC members have experience with such activities or are
> interested in volunteering, please email me at
> 
> edwiley at sunflower dot com
> 
> and I will send PDFs of the particulars and/or put you in touch with
> Nancy.
> 
> Ed Wiley
>

Reminder and Notice:

If you ordered 2009 wall calendars through the ASKC store, they will 
be available before and during the General Meeting tomorrow 
night.  Unclaimed calendars will be available for purchase by anyone 
after the meeting ends.

Roger Gruenke
913.441.6861 

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http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2010/2064.pdf

Matthew and I will be there.

I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power 
tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some 
square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices) 
2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'  
ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not 
quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?

David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?

Jason Forst
cell - 913-481-7325


Darrick wrote:
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
>
> Darrick
>
>
> ------------------------------------
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
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Wow I wonder how they pulled that off? 
Hope more States look at this and act�to protect the night sky in designated areas.�And, they mentioned State Parks. About every State Park I've been to has big lights scattered�around the campgrounds and rest rooms.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




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To: ASKC <ASKC@...>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:17:16 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Kansas skies


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Back from Hutch. See some of you at Powell at 8:00 Saturday morning.

DY

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Hi Keith!

Darrick (or anyone else generous with video),

Our "holiday event" at work is scheduled very late in an attempt to avoid conflict with all the other Christmas parties. Of course that means it's the same night as general meeting. I've been getting questions about the 2012 Mayan apocalypse--any chance of recording Mr. Nederman's presentation? Angie Brown says hi.

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I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 

I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.

Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.

Joe

And where might that stop occur?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so 
early.
> 
> Joe
>

torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
handbook out of the car. No promises.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th


> Matthew and I will be there.
>
> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>
> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>
> Jason Forst
> cell - 913-481-7325
>
>
> Darrick wrote:
>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>
>> Darrick
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Hey if you're talking breakfast can we talk some more?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Motor Repair


>I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.
> 
> Joe
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
know if I should bring mine.

Jason

David Young wrote:
> torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> handbook out of the car. No promises.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
>
>
>   
>> Matthew and I will be there.
>>
>> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
>> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
>> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
>> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
>> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
>> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>>
>> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>>
>> Jason Forst
>> cell - 913-481-7325
>>
>>
>> Darrick wrote:
>>     
>>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>>
>>> Darrick
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> know if I should bring mine.
> 
> Jason
> 
> David Young wrote:
> > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > handbook out of the car. No promises.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Matthew and I will be there.
> >>
> >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect
hand/power
> >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also
have some
> >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three
peices)
> >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and
my 6'
> >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although
it's not
> >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
> >>
> >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
> >>
> >> Jason Forst
> >> cell - 913-481-7325
> >>
> >>
> >> Darrick wrote:
> >>     
> >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra
hands
> >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
> >>>
> >>> Darrick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I think you are right.  Extra heaters will be needed.
Sorry, I can't help as I had knee surgery last week and I would be a hazard in the way.  

Dick T


-------------- Original message from "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>: -------------- 


> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up. 
> 
> Darrick 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: 
> > 
> > Oh, Propane heater? I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> > know if I should bring mine. 
> > 
> > Jason 
> > 
> > David Young wrote: 
> > > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > > handbook out of the car. No promises. 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jason" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> Matthew and I will be there. 
> > >> 
> > >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect 
> hand/power 
> > >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also 
> have some 
> > >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three 
> peices) 
> > >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and 
> my 6' 
> > >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although 
> it's not 
> > >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else? 
> > >> 
> > >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov? 
> > >> 
> > >> Jason Forst 
> > >> cell - 913-481-7325 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Darrick wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project 
> > >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
> hands 
> > >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Darrick 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> ------------------------------------ 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >> ------------------------------------ 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Will do, see you in the morning.

Jason.

Darrick wrote:
> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.
>
> Darrick
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>   
>> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
>> know if I should bring mine.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> David Young wrote:
>>     
>

I'll do that. The 10x25 pair is a roof prism design.
The tiny 2x25s have no prisms at all - I assume they
are of Galilean design. Is anyone bringing a Paragon
mount? If not, I can. (Some of those on the list, the
"no name" ones, especially, I thought might serve as
good examples of what *NOT* to look for in a pair of
binoculars.) :-D

John C


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> How about one roof prism and one porro prism, your choice
> Kathy

> --- John Cravens wrote:
> > Kathy,
> > 
> > Would you like me to bring any/all of
> > the following for visual aid/display?
> > 
> > 25x100 Celestron SkyMaster
> > 20x80 Barska
> > 15x70 Barska
> > 10x60 (no name)
> > 10x50 Bushnell
> > 10x25 Simmons
> >  7x50 (no name)
> >  7x35 Swift
> >  8x21 Gordon(?)
> >  2x25 "occupied Japan"
> > 
> > -John
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kathy Machin wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
> >> Topic this month will be binoculars.

I headed out know.� Bringing overhead, outdoor heater.
�
is there a waffle house out that way.� I pass two of them by time I get to Liberty.
�
you have thirty minutes to call me.
�
913-208-0924
�
�

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Here's the status of that bill from the KS Legislative website:

Full History on bill 2064

H 2064                 
Bill by Energy and Utilities                                         
          
Light pollution; night sky protection act.  Effective date: Statute
Bk.         
01/22/2009 H Introduced -HJ 58                                       
          
01/23/2009 H Referred to Energy and Utilities                        
          
-------------

Referring a bill back to a committee often kills it. If we want this
bill any Kansas residents need to contact their state representatives.
I plan to talk to mine since she lives with me. 


Here are the members of the Energy and Utilities Committee. Contacting
them may help:
Energy and Utilities: C. Holmes, Chairperson; Knox, Vice-chairperson;
Burgess, Fund, Johnson, Moxley, Myers, O'Brien, Olson, Proehl,
Seiwert, Sloan, Swanson,Kuether, Ranking Minority Member; T. Brown,
Finney, Long, Neighbor, Svaty, Talia, Wetta.

Doug Spalding



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "George  Allen" <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2010/2064.pdf
>

Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

General Meeting
Saturday January 24, 2009
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm

All Rights Reserved
 Copyright � 2009 
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 http://www.yahoo.com

Privacy Policy:
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Terms of Service:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Bring the mount only if it is easy to do!
We will need a bit of set up time before 6 pm.
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: General Meeting


> I'll do that. The 10x25 pair is a roof prism design.
> The tiny 2x25s have no prisms at all - I assume they
> are of Galilean design. Is anyone bringing a Paragon
> mount? If not, I can. (Some of those on the list, the
> "no name" ones, especially, I thought might serve as
> good examples of what *NOT* to look for in a pair of
> binoculars.) :-D
> 
> John C
> 
> 
> --- Kathy Machin wrote:
>>
>> How about one roof prism and one porro prism, your choice
>> Kathy
> 
>> --- John Cravens wrote:
>> > Kathy,
>> > 
>> > Would you like me to bring any/all of
>> > the following for visual aid/display?
>> > 
>> > 25x100 Celestron SkyMaster
>> > 20x80 Barska
>> > 15x70 Barska
>> > 10x60 (no name)
>> > 10x50 Bushnell
>> > 10x25 Simmons
>> >  7x50 (no name)
>> >  7x35 Swift
>> >  8x21 Gordon(?)
>> >  2x25 "occupied Japan"
>> > 
>> > -John
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- Kathy Machin wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
>> >> Topic this month will be binoculars.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: sailkansas@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:41:22 
To: No Reply<notify-dg-ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


My wife and I are planning to come to our first general meeting to night.  What time does it start and what is the topic. Sorry but I cannot find all the info on the website.  Thank you Gene Vialle
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com

Date: 24 Jan 2009 14:21:53 
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Science Olympiad Volunteer/s?    
    From: gdj561956

2.1. ASKC Store Calendar Orders -- General Meeting    
    From: Roger Gruenke

3a. Kansas skies    
    From: George  Allen
3b. Re: Kansas skies    
    From: RANDY THOMPSON

4a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason
4b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: David Young
4c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason
4d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Darrick
4e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: dtrent@att.net
4f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason

5. yeee haaa    
    From: David Young

6.1. Re: General Meeting    
    From: david9660@netscape.net
6.2. Re: General Meeting    
    From: John Cravens

7a. Motor Repair    
    From: Joseph Wright
7b. Re: Motor Repair    
    From: Jay Manifold
7c. Re: Motor Repair    
    From: David Young
7d. Motor Repair-breakfast    
    From: Joseph Wright


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Science Olympiad Volunteer/s?
    Posted by: "gdj561956" gdj102356@hotmail.com gdj561956
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:42 am ((PST))

I have some potential conflicts but may have an interest.
Dan Johnson




--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Wiley" <edwiley@...> wrote:
>
> A colleague of mine, Nancy Holcroft of Johnson County Community
> College is looking for one or more volunteers to run the astronomy
> part of the KS NE regional Science Olympiad. One set of tasks is for
> Middle School, the other for High School. Time table is later
> February. As I understand it, the tasks include identification of 
DSOs
> and stars and the ability to use such things as the HR diagram. it
> does not involve observing.
> 
> If any ASKC members have experience with such activities or are
> interested in volunteering, please email me at
> 
> edwiley at sunflower dot com
> 
> and I will send PDFs of the particulars and/or put you in touch with
> Nancy.
> 
> Ed Wiley
>




Messages in this topic (2)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2.1. ASKC Store Calendar Orders -- General Meeting
    Posted by: "Roger Gruenke" rgruenke@kc.rr.com ragruenke
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:04 am ((PST))

Reminder and Notice:

If you ordered 2009 wall calendars through the ASKC store, they will 
be available before and during the General Meeting tomorrow 
night.  Unclaimed calendars will be available for purchase by anyone 
after the meeting ends.

Roger Gruenke
913.441.6861 

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Messages in this topic (40)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
3a. Kansas skies
    Posted by: "George  Allen" geonjod@earthlink.net geonjod
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:17 pm ((PST))

http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2010/2064.pdf


Messages in this topic (2)
________________________________________________________________________
3b. Re: Kansas skies
    Posted by: "RANDY THOMPSON" randiwe269@sbcglobal.net askchdpowell
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:21 pm ((PST))

Wow I wonder how they pulled that off? 
Hope more States look at this and act�to protect the night sky in designated areas.�And, they mentioned State Parks. About every State Park I've been to has big lights scattered�around the campgrounds and rest rooms.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: George Allen <geonjod@earthlink.net>
To: ASKC <ASKC@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:17:16 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Kansas skies


http://www.kslegisl ature.org/ bills/2010/ 2064.pdf
 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Messages in this topic (2)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
4a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@bmwlt.com bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:20 pm ((PST))

Matthew and I will be there.

I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power 
tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some 
square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices) 
2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'  
ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not 
quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?

David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?

Jason Forst
cell - 913-481-7325


Darrick wrote:
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
>
> Darrick
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   



Messages in this topic (13)
________________________________________________________________________
4b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@kc.rr.com dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:21 pm ((PST))

torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
handbook out of the car. No promises.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <bmwjason@bmwlt.com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th


> Matthew and I will be there.
>
> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>
> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>
> Jason Forst
> cell - 913-481-7325
>
>
> Darrick wrote:
>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>
>> Darrick
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



Messages in this topic (13)
________________________________________________________________________
4c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@bmwlt.com bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:07 pm ((PST))

Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
know if I should bring mine.

Jason

David Young wrote:
> torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> handbook out of the car. No promises.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason" <bmwjason@bmwlt.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
>
>
>   
>> Matthew and I will be there.
>>
>> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
>> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
>> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
>> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
>> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
>> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>>
>> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>>
>> Jason Forst
>> cell - 913-481-7325
>>
>>
>> Darrick wrote:
>>     
>>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>>
>>> Darrick
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   



Messages in this topic (13)
________________________________________________________________________
4d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Darrick" earthdude123@yahoo.com earthdude123
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:18 pm ((PST))

I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> know if I should bring mine.
> 
> Jason
> 
> David Young wrote:
> > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > handbook out of the car. No promises.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Matthew and I will be there.
> >>
> >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect
hand/power
> >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also
have some
> >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three
peices)
> >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and
my 6'
> >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although
it's not
> >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
> >>
> >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
> >>
> >> Jason Forst
> >> cell - 913-481-7325
> >>
> >>
> >> Darrick wrote:
> >>     
> >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra
hands
> >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
> >>>
> >>> Darrick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




Messages in this topic (13)
________________________________________________________________________
4e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "dtrent@att.net" dtrent@att.net stflyer1
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:36 pm ((PST))

I think you are right.  Extra heaters will be needed.
Sorry, I can't help as I had knee surgery last week and I would be a hazard in the way.  

Dick T


-------------- Original message from "Darrick" <earthdude123@yahoo.com>: -------------- 


> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up. 
> 
> Darrick 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: 
> > 
> > Oh, Propane heater? I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> > know if I should bring mine. 
> > 
> > Jason 
> > 
> > David Young wrote: 
> > > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > > handbook out of the car. No promises. 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jason" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> Matthew and I will be there. 
> > >> 
> > >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect 
> hand/power 
> > >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also 
> have some 
> > >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three 
> peices) 
> > >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and 
> my 6' 
> > >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although 
> it's not 
> > >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else? 
> > >> 
> > >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov? 
> > >> 
> > >> Jason Forst 
> > >> cell - 913-481-7325 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Darrick wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project 
> > >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
> hands 
> > >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Darrick 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> ------------------------------------ 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >> ------------------------------------ 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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4f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@bmwlt.com bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:38 pm ((PST))

Will do, see you in the morning.

Jason.

Darrick wrote:
> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.
>
> Darrick
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>   
>> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
>> know if I should bring mine.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> David Young wrote:
>>     
>



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5. yeee haaa
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@kc.rr.com dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:47 pm ((PST))

Back from Hutch. See some of you at Powell at 8:00 Saturday morning.

DY

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6.1. Re: General Meeting
    Posted by: "david9660@netscape.net" david9660@netscape.net daviddid2000
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:12 pm ((PST))

Hi Keith!

Darrick (or anyone else generous with video),

Our "holiday event" at work is scheduled very late in an attempt to avoid conflict with all the other Christmas parties. Of course that means it's the same night as general meeting. I've been getting questions about the 2012 Mayan apocalypse--any chance of recording Mr. Nederman's presentation? Angie Brown says hi.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

 



    
    
 



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6.2. Re: General Meeting
    Posted by: "John Cravens" John.Cravens@comcast.net skygazer1956
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:29 pm ((PST))

I'll do that. The 10x25 pair is a roof prism design.
The tiny 2x25s have no prisms at all - I assume they
are of Galilean design. Is anyone bringing a Paragon
mount? If not, I can. (Some of those on the list, the
"no name" ones, especially, I thought might serve as
good examples of what *NOT* to look for in a pair of
binoculars.) :-D

John C


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> How about one roof prism and one porro prism, your choice
> Kathy

> --- John Cravens wrote:
> > Kathy,
> > 
> > Would you like me to bring any/all of
> > the following for visual aid/display?
> > 
> > 25x100 Celestron SkyMaster
> > 20x80 Barska
> > 15x70 Barska
> > 10x60 (no name)
> > 10x50 Bushnell
> > 10x25 Simmons
> >  7x50 (no name)
> >  7x35 Swift
> >  8x21 Gordon(?)
> >  2x25 "occupied Japan"
> > 
> > -John
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kathy Machin wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
> >> Topic this month will be binoculars.




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7a. Motor Repair
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@yahoo.com jos.wright
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:27 pm ((PST))

I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 

I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.

Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.

Joe


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7b. Re: Motor Repair
    Posted by: "Jay Manifold" jaymanifold@earthlink.net jay_manifold
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:57 pm ((PST))

And where might that stop occur?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so 
early.
> 
> Joe
>




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7c. Re: Motor Repair
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@kc.rr.com dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:22 pm ((PST))

Hey if you're talking breakfast can we talk some more?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@yahoo.com>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Motor Repair


>I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.
> 
> Joe
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>


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7d. Motor Repair-breakfast
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@yahoo.com jos.wright
    Date: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:27 am ((PST))

I headed out know.� Bringing overhead, outdoor heater.
�
is there a waffle house out that way.� I pass two of them by time I get to Liberty.
�
you have thirty minutes to call me.
�
913-208-0924
�
�

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At 6 pm to roughly 6:30 - Astronomy 101-- some basic astronomy information - this month binoculars
At 7 - general meeting. 
The program is :  2012: What does it really mean?

Kathy Machin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sailkansas@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Fw: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sailkansas@...
> 
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:41:22 
> To: No Reply<notify-dg-ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466
> 
> 
> My wife and I are planning to come to our first general meeting to night.  What time does it start and what is the topic. Sorry but I cannot find all the info on the website.  Thank you Gene Vialle
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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We meet the fourth Saturday of each month (except December and for the
annual picnic), in Room 111 of Royall Hall, on the campus of the University
of Missouri at Kansas City, located one block west of 52nd and Rockhill
Road. Meeting time starts at 7:00pm and usually ends around 9:00 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
sailkansas@...
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:52 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: sailkansas@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:41:22 
To: No Reply<notify-dg-ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


My wife and I are planning to come to our first general meeting to night.
What time does it start and what is the topic. Sorry but I cannot find all
the info on the website.  Thank you Gene Vialle
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com

Date: 24 Jan 2009 14:21:53 
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ASKC] Digest Number 4466


There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Science Olympiad Volunteer/s?    
    From: gdj561956

2.1. ASKC Store Calendar Orders -- General Meeting    
    From: Roger Gruenke

3a. Kansas skies    
    From: George  Allen
3b. Re: Kansas skies    
    From: RANDY THOMPSON

4a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason
4b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: David Young
4c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason
4d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Darrick
4e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: dtrent@...
4f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th    
    From: Jason

5. yeee haaa    
    From: David Young

6.1. Re: General Meeting    
    From: david9660@...
6.2. Re: General Meeting    
    From: John Cravens

7a. Motor Repair    
    From: Joseph Wright
7b. Re: Motor Repair    
    From: Jay Manifold
7c. Re: Motor Repair    
    From: David Young
7d. Motor Repair-breakfast    
    From: Joseph Wright


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1a. Re: Science Olympiad Volunteer/s?
    Posted by: "gdj561956" gdj102356@hotmail.com gdj561956
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:42 am ((PST))

I have some potential conflicts but may have an interest.
Dan Johnson




--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Wiley" <edwiley@...> wrote:
>
> A colleague of mine, Nancy Holcroft of Johnson County Community
> College is looking for one or more volunteers to run the astronomy
> part of the KS NE regional Science Olympiad. One set of tasks is for
> Middle School, the other for High School. Time table is later
> February. As I understand it, the tasks include identification of 
DSOs
> and stars and the ability to use such things as the HR diagram. it
> does not involve observing.
> 
> If any ASKC members have experience with such activities or are
> interested in volunteering, please email me at
> 
> edwiley at sunflower dot com
> 
> and I will send PDFs of the particulars and/or put you in touch with
> Nancy.
> 
> Ed Wiley
>




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2.1. ASKC Store Calendar Orders -- General Meeting
    Posted by: "Roger Gruenke" rgruenke@... ragruenke
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:04 am ((PST))

Reminder and Notice:

If you ordered 2009 wall calendars through the ASKC store, they will 
be available before and during the General Meeting tomorrow 
night.  Unclaimed calendars will be available for purchase by anyone 
after the meeting ends.

Roger Gruenke
913.441.6861 

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3a. Kansas skies
    Posted by: "George  Allen" geonjod@... geonjod
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:17 pm ((PST))

http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2010/2064.pdf


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3b. Re: Kansas skies
    Posted by: "RANDY THOMPSON" randiwe269@... askchdpowell
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:21 pm ((PST))

Wow I wonder how they pulled that off? 
Hope more States look at this and act�to protect the night sky in designated
areas.�And, they mentioned State Parks. About every State Park I've been to
has big lights scattered�around the campgrounds and rest rooms.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: George Allen <geonjod@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@...>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:17:16 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Kansas skies


http://www.kslegisl ature.org/ bills/2010/ 2064.pdf
 

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4a. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@... bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:20 pm ((PST))

Matthew and I will be there.

I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power 
tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some 
square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices) 
2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'  
ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not 
quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?

David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?

Jason Forst
cell - 913-481-7325


Darrick wrote:
> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
>
> Darrick
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   



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4b. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:21 pm ((PST))

torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
handbook out of the car. No promises.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th


> Matthew and I will be there.
>
> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>
> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>
> Jason Forst
> cell - 913-481-7325
>
>
> Darrick wrote:
>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>
>> Darrick
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



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4c. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@... bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:07 pm ((PST))

Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
know if I should bring mine.

Jason

David Young wrote:
> torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> handbook out of the car. No promises.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jason" <bmwjason@bmwlt.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
>
>
>   
>> Matthew and I will be there.
>>
>> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect hand/power
>> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also have some
>> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three peices)
>> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and my 6'
>> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although it's not
>> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
>>
>> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
>>
>> Jason Forst
>> cell - 913-481-7325
>>
>>
>> Darrick wrote:
>>     
>>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
>>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra hands
>>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
>>>
>>> Darrick
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   



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4d. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Darrick" earthdude123@yahoo.com earthdude123
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:18 pm ((PST))

I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> know if I should bring mine.
> 
> Jason
> 
> David Young wrote:
> > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > handbook out of the car. No promises.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Matthew and I will be there.
> >>
> >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect
hand/power
> >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also
have some
> >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three
peices)
> >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and
my 6'
> >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although
it's not
> >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else?
> >>
> >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov?
> >>
> >> Jason Forst
> >> cell - 913-481-7325
> >>
> >>
> >> Darrick wrote:
> >>     
> >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project
> >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra
hands
> >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am.
> >>>
> >>> Darrick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




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4e. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "dtrent@..." dtrent@... stflyer1
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:36 pm ((PST))

I think you are right.  Extra heaters will be needed.
Sorry, I can't help as I had knee surgery last week and I would be a hazard
in the way.  

Dick T


-------------- Original message from "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>:
-------------- 


> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up. 
> 
> Darrick 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: 
> > 
> > Oh, Propane heater? I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
> > know if I should bring mine. 
> > 
> > Jason 
> > 
> > David Young wrote: 
> > > torch and heater is already at Powell. I'll try to remember to get a 
> > > handbook out of the car. No promises. 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jason" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:20 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Help at Powell This Saturday 24th 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> Matthew and I will be there. 
> > >> 
> > >> I can bring oxy-acetelyne torch, plus all the usual suspect 
> hand/power 
> > >> tools. Sorry, wire-feed welder is in Excelsior Springs. I also 
> have some 
> > >> square tubing (mild steel). Ooo, also have about 12 ft (in three 
> peices) 
> > >> 2.5" stainless steel tubing -- will that help w/ the repairs? and 
> my 6' 
> > >> ladder. And I do have a canvas tarp that I'll bring, although 
> it's not 
> > >> quite big enough to cover the entire scope. Anything else? 
> > >> 
> > >> David, would you bring the RASC handbook I ordered in Nov? 
> > >> 
> > >> Jason Forst 
> > >> cell - 913-481-7325 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Darrick wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >>> If you have no plans on Saturday morning we have a little project 
> > >>> happening. We are working on the shutter of the dome. Some extra 
> hands 
> > >>> wouldn't hurt. Starting at 8am. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Darrick 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> ------------------------------------ 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >> ------------------------------------ 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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4f. Re: Help at Powell This Saturday 24th
    Posted by: "Jason" bmwjason@... bmwjason100
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:38 pm ((PST))

Will do, see you in the morning.

Jason.

Darrick wrote:
> I'm going to say YES, bring it!!!! It's supposed to be cold. 
> I have to grab the scaffolding at 8am, when they open. Get it warmed up.
>
> Darrick
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>   
>> Oh, Propane heater?  I've got one too, is your heater enough? let me 
>> know if I should bring mine.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> David Young wrote:
>>     
>



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5. yeee haaa
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@kc.rr.com dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:47 pm ((PST))

Back from Hutch. See some of you at Powell at 8:00 Saturday morning.

DY

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6.1. Re: General Meeting
    Posted by: "david9660@..." david9660@netscape.net daviddid2000
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:12 pm ((PST))

Hi Keith!

Darrick (or anyone else generous with video),

Our "holiday event" at work is scheduled very late in an attempt to avoid
conflict with all the other Christmas parties. Of course that means it's the
same night as general meeting. I've been getting questions about the 2012
Mayan apocalypse--any chance of recording Mr. Nederman's presentation? Angie
Brown says hi.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

 



    
    
 



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6.2. Re: General Meeting
    Posted by: "John Cravens" John.Cravens@... skygazer1956
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:29 pm ((PST))

I'll do that. The 10x25 pair is a roof prism design.
The tiny 2x25s have no prisms at all - I assume they
are of Galilean design. Is anyone bringing a Paragon
mount? If not, I can. (Some of those on the list, the
"no name" ones, especially, I thought might serve as
good examples of what *NOT* to look for in a pair of
binoculars.) :-D

John C


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> How about one roof prism and one porro prism, your choice
> Kathy

> --- John Cravens wrote:
> > Kathy,
> > 
> > Would you like me to bring any/all of
> > the following for visual aid/display?
> > 
> > 25x100 Celestron SkyMaster
> > 20x80 Barska
> > 15x70 Barska
> > 10x60 (no name)
> > 10x50 Bushnell
> > 10x25 Simmons
> >  7x50 (no name)
> >  7x35 Swift
> >  8x21 Gordon(?)
> >  2x25 "occupied Japan"
> > 
> > -John
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kathy Machin wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Astronomy 101...6 pm...
> >> Topic this month will be binoculars.




Messages in this topic (40)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
7a. Motor Repair
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:27 pm ((PST))

I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 

I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.

Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.

Joe


Messages in this topic (4)
________________________________________________________________________
7b. Re: Motor Repair
    Posted by: "Jay Manifold" jaymanifold@... jay_manifold
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:57 pm ((PST))

And where might that stop occur?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so 
early.
> 
> Joe
>




Messages in this topic (4)
________________________________________________________________________
7c. Re: Motor Repair
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:22 pm ((PST))

Hey if you're talking breakfast can we talk some more?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Motor Repair


>I have a canvas tarp and some drop canvas drop clothes. 
> 
> I'll be leaving up hear around 0630 (crap) for Powell.  If there is 
> something else (fall protection gear) I need to bring, call.
> 
> Ooh, I may have to stop for a pecan waffle on the way, being so early.
> 
> Joe
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>


Messages in this topic (4)
________________________________________________________________________
7d. Motor Repair-breakfast
    Posted by: "Joseph Wright" jos.wright@... jos.wright
    Date: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:27 am ((PST))

I headed out know.� Bringing overhead, outdoor heater.
�
is there a waffle house out that way.� I pass two of them by time I get to
Liberty.
�
you have thirty minutes to call me.
�
913-208-0924
�
�

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Yahoo! Groups Links

We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
thanks to the following  - Charles,Joe,David,Mitch,Jay,Jason and Eric.
Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 

We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely filled
with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a project in
just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that was
there also got replaced. 

The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan for
the down time to be minimal. 

Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 

Darrick

Bob Allen has motor wiring in his head.  Ask hiim.  He was an electrician 
for UPRR and worked on locomotives and other stuff.  Great guy  to know.
Geo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Powell workday notes


> We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
> thanks to the following  - Charles,Joe,David,Mitch,Jay,Jason and Eric.
> Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
> can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry.
>
> We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely filled
> with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
> and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a project in
> just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
> wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that was
> there also got replaced.
>
> The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan for
> the down time to be minimal.
>
> Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
> offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it.
>
> Darrick
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Flickr photoset

http://www.flickr.com/photos/83448361@N00/sets/72157612947632482/


slideshow version

http://www.flickr.com/photos/83448361@N00/sets/72157612947632482/show
/


Jay


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
> thanks to the following  - Charles,Joe,David,Mitch,Jay,Jason and 
Eric.
> Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
> can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
> 
> We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
filled
> with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
> and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
project in
> just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
> wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
was
> there also got replaced. 
> 
> The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
for
> the down time to be minimal. 
> 
> Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
> offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
> 
> Darrick
>

Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal�vents with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little *^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@earthlink.net>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:17:22 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


Flickr photoset

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/

slideshow version

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/show
/

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@ ...> wrote:
>
> We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
> thanks to the following - Charles,Joe, David,Mitch, Jay,Jason and 
Eric.
> Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
> can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
> 
> We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
filled
> with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
> and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
project in
> just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
> wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
was
> there also got replaced. 
> 
> The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
for
> the down time to be minimal. 
> 
> Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
> offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
> 
> Darrick
>

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

We are trainable. The new motor is a totally enclosed style. The little 
critters will need metal cutting tools to get into this one. When I took the 
old one apart it was packed with mud dobber nests, dead spiders and other 
debris. Both shaft bearings were rough and likely to completely fail in the 
not so distant future. The armature windings were discolored from excessive 
heat. Oddly enough the start capacitor tested good. We decided that while 
rewinding the old motor and putting in new bearings would get it 
operational, a new enclosed motor should be that much more and would elimate 
a recuring problem. There is an issue with the reverse direction wiring but 
we have a fairly simple almost zero maintenance solution that we think will 
work well. We're going back down Sunday morning to remove the control box 
and motor to start working on implimenting the new module. (high tech talk 
for an external relay)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal vents 
with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little 
*^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy

Anyone thinking about going to the Brookwood School Science night?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jason and I will be at Powell around 10:30 to continue the shutter motor project.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 
  
____________________________________
 From: Scott.Sudkamp@...
To: MikeKansasCity@...
Sent:  1/20/2009 9:02:20 A.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: RE: mail  address



Hi Mike,  just wanted to follow up from our visit last fall.  I sent the 
proposed  plan to Randy Thompson as you suggested, back in October.  I haven’t  
heard anything back though.  Has your board decided what they would like  to do 
on the property?  I just need to know whether I should allocate any  cost 
share money for the project this spring. 
Also, I  left a message on your phone regarding an upcoming prescribed burn  
workshop.  I will be conducting one on Feb. 14th in  Butler.  A little closer 
to you, there will be one on the 28th  at the Bass Pro Shops in Independence.  
Let me know if you’re interested  in either of these and I’ll get you more 
information. 
Take  care. 
Scott  Sudkamp, CWB 
Private  Land Conservationist 
Missouri  Department of Conservation 
100  W. Allison 
Nevada,  MO  64772 
417/667-8137  ext. 128 
 
 
From:  MikeKansasCity@... [mailto:MikeKansasCity@...] 
Sent:  Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:21 PM
To: Scott  Sudkamp
Subject: mail address

 
Scott,
 

 
I  apologize for not responding earlier.  I've been home sick and not caught  
up on messages.
 
Please  send the information to Randy Thompson.  You met with him at the Dark 
 Site.  The guys spoke highly of you and felt you offered some good  input.  
If you have it on your computer, I'll take an email  copy.
 
Thank  you,
 
Mike  Sterling
 

 
Randy  Thompson
 
4213  Milton Drive
 
Independence,  MO 64055-5431
 
ph  816-682-1464
 




  
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Jay,

Thanks for the pictures.  Especially the ones of the new motor and the wiring schematic.

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jay Manifold 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:17 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


  Flickr photoset

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/83448361@N00/sets/72157612947632482/

  slideshow version

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/83448361@N00/sets/72157612947632482/show
  /

  Jay

  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
  >
  > We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
  > thanks to the following - Charles,Joe,David,Mitch,Jay,Jason and 
  Eric.
  > Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
  > can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
  > 
  > We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
  filled
  > with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
  > and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
  project in
  > just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
  > wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
  was
  > there also got replaced. 
  > 
  > The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
  for
  > the down time to be minimal. 
  > 
  > Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
  > offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
  > 
  > Darrick
  >



   

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Randy,

Just exactly what specieis is *^^%%(?)?  Last question mark is mine.

I have studied insects and arachnids for many years now and I believe you may have described a new species:  domus moto(r) stopulus.  

The r is silent.

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RANDY THOMPSON 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


  Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal vents with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little *^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
   Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
  Randy 

  ________________________________
  From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:17:22 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

  Flickr photoset

  http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/

  slideshow version

  http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/show
  /

  Jay

  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@ ...> wrote:
  >
  > We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
  > thanks to the following - Charles,Joe, David,Mitch, Jay,Jason and 
  Eric.
  > Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
  > can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
  > 
  > We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
  filled
  > with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
  > and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
  project in
  > just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
  > wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
  was
  > there also got replaced. 
  > 
  > The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
  for
  > the down time to be minimal. 
  > 
  > Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
  > offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
  > 
  > Darrick
  >

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If anyone has anything to contribute, please send to me by Wed., Jan. 
28. Thanks! Also, a note today that it will be coming would be most 
helpful.

Thanks,
Marcia

Sounds like you guys have this totally under control. Thanks for what you guys do!
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:28:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


We are trainable. The new motor is a totally enclosed style. The little 
critters will need metal cutting tools to get into this one. When I took the 
old one apart it was packed with mud dobber nests, dead spiders and other 
debris. Both shaft bearings were rough and likely to completely fail in the 
not so distant future. The armature windings were discolored from excessive 
heat. Oddly enough the start capacitor tested good. We decided that while 
rewinding the old motor and putting in new bearings would get it 
operational, a new enclosed motor should be that much more and would elimate 
a recuring problem. There is an issue with the reverse direction wiring but 
we have a fairly simple almost zero maintenance solution that we think will 
work well. We're going back down Sunday morning to remove the control box 
and motor to start working on implimenting the new module. (high tech talk 
for an external relay)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@sbcgloba l.net>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal vents 
with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little 
*^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Let me simplify the species:  "Damn Bugs"
That about sums them all up.

Joe

Yes, you have the offical spelling of this creature. I being a mortal man do not know these things.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:22:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


Randy,

Just exactly what specieis is *^^%%(?)? Last question mark is mine.

I have studied insects and arachnids for many years now and I believe you may have described a new species: domus moto(r) stopulus. 

The r is silent.

Rick Henderson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: RANDY THOMPSON 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal vents with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little *^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@ earthlink. net>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:17:22 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

Flickr photoset

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/

slideshow version

http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/show
/

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@ ...> wrote:
>
> We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
> thanks to the following - Charles,Joe, David,Mitch, Jay,Jason and 
Eric.
> Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
> can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
> 
> We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
filled
> with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
> and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
project in
> just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
> wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
was
> there also got replaced. 
> 
> The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
for
> the down time to be minimal. 
> 
> Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
> offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
> 
> Darrick
>

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Oh, I wouldn't say that, Randy.  I think you summed up the bugs quite well!

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RANDY THOMPSON 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes


  Yes, you have the offical spelling of this creature. I being a mortal man do not know these things.
   Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
  Randy 

  ________________________________
  From: Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:22:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

  Randy,

  Just exactly what specieis is *^^%%(?)? Last question mark is mine.

  I have studied insects and arachnids for many years now and I believe you may have described a new species: domus moto(r) stopulus. 

  The r is silent.

  Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RANDY THOMPSON 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

  Will we have problems with Mud Dabbers with the new motor? Can we seal vents with fiberglass screen and epoxy the screen in place (to keep the little *^^%%(?) out of the motor case?
  Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
  Randy 

  ____________ _________ _________ __
  From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@ earthlink. net>
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:17:22 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Powell workday notes

  Flickr photoset

  http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/

  slideshow version

  http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 83448361@ N00/sets/ 7215761294763248 2/show
  /

  Jay

  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Darrick" <earthdude123@ ...> wrote:
  >
  > We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
  > thanks to the following - Charles,Joe, David,Mitch, Jay,Jason and 
  Eric.
  > Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
  > can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
  > 
  > We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely 
  filled
  > with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
  > and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a 
  project in
  > just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
  > wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that 
  was
  > there also got replaced. 
  > 
  > The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan 
  for
  > the down time to be minimal. 
  > 
  > Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
  > offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
  > 
  > Darrick
  >

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Moderately good music, cool title, and some great time-lapse imagery 
of (and from) various observatories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaXQP2V8z4A&feature=related

A von Neuman probe perhaps?

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Those of you who thought there was something "not right" about the 
introduction image Bob Nederman used in his talk Saturday night, you 
are right.  See this:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp

I must me so involved with other things that I had never heard about 
the "Mayan Calander 2012 Apocalypse" until last night's general 
meeting, but then I usually don't pay attention to stuff like this.  
Bob gave a good presentation on this subject, but with all due 
respect, I think its just nonsense.  Just my opinion.

I'm sure most of you remember the planetary alignment back in 1982 
that was supposed to wreck havoc with this world.  That never 
happened.  If you do a Google search "mayan calendar 2012" you'll 
find all kinds of stuff on this.

I guess we'll just have to wait 3 more years to see what happens.  
I'll bet in 2014 all the doomsayers will just go on to some other far-
fetched scenario.

"Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here"
Tom J. Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

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Tom,
Actually, this is the second talk we have had about the Mayan Calendar and 
2012.
A couple of years ago Dr Geilker gave us an excellent talk about how the 
Mayan calendar (interlocking calendars, actually) were set up. Long counts, 
baktun counts, different notations, and that 2012 would just mark the start 
of the next cycle in just one of those calendar counts, if I remember 
correctly. Kind of like going from one millenium to the next.
He had a lot of good scholarly information presented in a very clear 
fashion. Apparently a lot of people missed that meeting as when I mention 
it, I get no one who seems to remember it.
Anyway,
We will see what happens.

And the next one is either 2029 or 2038. I can't remember why those dates 
right now, but I think I have seen references to both those years.

Kathy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tom_j_martinez" <zenitrammot@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:22 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> Those of you who thought there was something "not right" about the
> introduction image Bob Nederman used in his talk Saturday night, you
> are right.  See this:
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp
>
> I must me so involved with other things that I had never heard about
> the "Mayan Calander 2012 Apocalypse" until last night's general
> meeting, but then I usually don't pay attention to stuff like this.
> Bob gave a good presentation on this subject, but with all due
> respect, I think its just nonsense.  Just my opinion.
>
> I'm sure most of you remember the planetary alignment back in 1982
> that was supposed to wreck havoc with this world.  That never
> happened.  If you do a Google search "mayan calendar 2012" you'll
> find all kinds of stuff on this.
>
> I guess we'll just have to wait 3 more years to see what happens.
> I'll bet in 2014 all the doomsayers will just go on to some other far-
> fetched scenario.
>
> "Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here"
> Tom J. Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
.> 

 Kathy and Tom,

I agree that Dr. Geilker's presentation was excellent. Do you remember which object will be positioned at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan observation seems to indicate some understanding of galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very long cycle.

Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we moving more away from this alignment? Apparently something on cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.

David Neuenschwander


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Machin <kmachin@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 9:25 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun and Moon Set at the Pole






















    

            
Tom,

Actually, this is the second talk we have had about the Mayan Calendar and 

2012.

A couple of years ago Dr Geilker gave us an excellent talk about how the 

Mayan calendar (interlocking calendars, actually) were set up. Long counts, 

baktun counts, different notations, and that 2012 would just mark the start 

of the next cycle in just one of those calendar counts, if I remember 

correctly. Kind of like going from one millenium to the next.

He had a lot of good scholarly information presented in a very clear 

fashion. Apparently a lot of people missed that meeting as when I mention 

it, I get no one who seems to remember it.

Anyway,

We will see what happens.



And the next one is either 2029 or 2038. I can't remember why those dates 

right now, but I think I have seen references to both those years.



Kathy






?



    
    
 



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David,
I really can not remember with ahy degree of certainty.
Hmmm. Time for internet searches.
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <david9660@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


>
> Kathy and Tom,
>
> I agree that Dr. Geilker's presentation was excellent. Do you remember 
> which object will be positioned at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way 
> marking the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely given the 
> timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan observation seems to indicate 
> some understanding of galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very 
> long cycle.
>
> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning with that of the 
> Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we moving more away from this alignment? 
> Apparently something on cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of 
> apocalypse.
>
> David Neuenschwander

Here's a good place to find some facts about 2012.
http://www.universetoday.com/category/2012/

The events in 2029 and 2036 are actual events that will really happen.
These are the years that the asteroid Apophis will make frighteningly close
approaches to the earth.  If it passes in just the right (or I guess that
would be wrong) trajectory in 2029 it will come back and smack us hard in
2036.  This scenario doesn't look likely, but it's being watched very
closely.

Pleasant dreams,
Leif


On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Kathy Machin <kmachin@...> wrote:

>   David,
> I really can not remember with ahy degree of certainty.
> Hmmm. Time for internet searches.
> Kathy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david9660@... <david9660%40netscape.net>>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
>
> >
> > Kathy and Tom,
> >
> > I agree that Dr. Geilker's presentation was excellent. Do you remember
> > which object will be positioned at the end of a dark lane in the Milky
> Way
> > marking the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely given the
> > timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan observation seems to indicate
> > some understanding of galactic rotation but they were only aware of a
> very
> > long cycle.
> >
> > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning with that of the
> > Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we moving more away from this
> alignment?
> > Apparently something on cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of
> > apocalypse.
> >
> > David Neuenschwander
>
>  
>


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Kathy:  I'm sorry I missed his talk.  I'm sure his presentation was 
excellent and I sure miss those Thanksgiving dinners and Geilker 
talks at the KC Museum years ago.

Tom J. Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> Actually, this is the second talk we have had about the Mayan 
Calendar and 
> 2012.
> A couple of years ago Dr Geilker gave us an excellent talk about 
how the 
> Mayan calendar (interlocking calendars, actually) were set up. Long 
counts, 
> baktun counts, different notations, and that 2012 would just mark 
the start 
> of the next cycle in just one of those calendar counts, if I 
remember 
> correctly. Kind of like going from one millenium to the next.
> He had a lot of good scholarly information presented in a very 
clear 
> fashion. Apparently a lot of people missed that meeting as when I 
mention 
> it, I get no one who seems to remember it.
> Anyway,
> We will see what happens.
> 
> And the next one is either 2029 or 2038. I can't remember why those 
dates 
> right now, but I think I have seen references to both those years.
> 
> Kathy
> 

If the 2012 end of the world forcast by the Mayan calendar is right we don't need to worry about 2029 or 2036 as they will not happen, at least in this world.   
Now,  which world are they talking about?   :-)

-------------- Original message from Leif Bahl <leifbahl@...>: -------------- 


> Here's a good place to find some facts about 2012. 
> http://www.universetoday.com/category/2012/ 
> 
> The events in 2029 and 2036 are actual events that will really happen. 
> These are the years that the asteroid Apophis will make frighteningly close 
> approaches to the earth. If it passes in just the right (or I guess that 
> would be wrong) trajectory in 2029 it will come back and smack us hard in 
> 2036. This scenario doesn't look likely, but it's being watched very 
> closely. 
> 
> Pleasant dreams, 
> Leif 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Kathy Machin wrote: 
> 
> > David, 
> > I really can not remember with ahy degree of certainty. 
> > Hmmm. Time for internet searches. 
> > Kathy 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: > 
> > To: > 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:00 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sun and Moon Set at the Pole 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Kathy and Tom, 
> > > 
> > > I agree that Dr. Geilker's presentation was excellent. Do you remember 
> > > which object will be positioned at the end of a dark lane in the Milky 
> > Way 
> > > marking the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely given the 
> > > timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan observation seems to indicate 
> > > some understanding of galactic rotation but they were only aware of a 
> > very 
> > > long cycle. 
> > > 
> > > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning with that of the 
> > > Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we moving more away from this 
> > alignment? 
> > > Apparently something on cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of 
> > > apocalypse. 
> > > 
> > > David Neuenschwander 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

And this:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html

-JC

--- Tom Martinez wrote:
>
> Those of you who thought there was something "not
> right" about the introduction image Bob Nederman used
> in his talk Saturday night, you are right. See this:
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp

David,

One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
galactic longitude.

I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D

And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
it?

-John C


--- David Neuenschwander wrote:
> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
> long cycle.
> 
> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
> 
> David Neuenschwander

John:  I played with StarryNight planetarium software and according to 
it the Winter solstice position has alread been crossed.  I started 
with 2009 and jumped forward one year at a time to 2012 but it was 
going further away, so I went backwards and it crossed around May, 1998.

I will upload an image to the Files Section.

Tom J. Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...> wrote:
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> it?
> 
> -John C
> 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
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  Description : Image of Winter Solstice crossing of the Galactic plane 

You can access this file at the URL:
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bummer that the web cam linked on that page doesn't work anymore:-(
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:37 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> And this:
> 
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html
> 

Don't you folks listen to Coast to Coast on the radio while you're up all 
night star gazing?  If you did, you'd know that we're all doomed because in 
2012 when the earth crosses the galactic plane, the poles will reverse 
creating an ice age and Planet X (Nibiru) will come dangerously close 
creating cataclysmic gravitational disturbances.   And you thought the 
collapse of the banking system was something!

I just hope the folks from Zeta Reticuli can save us.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:37 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> And this:
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html
>
> -JC
>
> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
>>
>> Those of you who thought there was something "not
>> right" about the introduction image Bob Nederman used
>> in his talk Saturday night, you are right. See this:
>>
>> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Cool picture of geosynchronous satellites in Orion.
http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/geo.8mar08.5.jpg


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Cool picture!   8-hour exposure! 



thanks Leif! 



-Scott 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leif Bahl" <leifbahl@...> 
To: "ASKC newsgroup" <askc@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:56:39 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] Earth Science Picture of the Day 






Cool picture of geosynchronous satellites in Orion. 
http://epod.usra.edu/archive/images/geo.8mar08.5.jpg 

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You left out the Yellowstone Supervolcano.  Clearly, you are a shape-
shifting reptilian agent of the Grays intent on distracting us from 
the true dangers.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baker" <DBAKER5@...> wrote:
>
> Don't you folks listen to Coast to Coast on the radio while you're 
up all 
> night star gazing?  If you did, you'd know that we're all doomed 
because in 
> 2012 when the earth crosses the galactic plane, the poles will 
reverse 
> creating an ice age and Planet X (Nibiru) will come dangerously 
close 
> creating cataclysmic gravitational disturbances.   And you thought 
the 
> collapse of the banking system was something!
> 
> I just hope the folks from Zeta Reticuli can save us.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:37 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
> 
> 
> > And this:
> >
> > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html
> >
> > -JC
> >
> > --- Tom Martinez wrote:
> >>
> >> Those of you who thought there was something "not
> >> right" about the introduction image Bob Nederman used
> >> in his talk Saturday night, you are right. See this:
> >>
> >> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night this Thursday. Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for several years.

Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking these nights?

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I did some web searching but did not find the really good site I thought I 
found a couple of years ago.

As David's original reply mentioned, I recall mention of a dark nebula in 
the Dr Geilker talk.
I think it extremely unlikely that the Maya calculated the galactic equator. 
They could have had a much better handle on the whereabouts of things with 
regard to naked eye galactic features. I think the connection mentioned is 
with the winter solstice sun being at the exact center or point of a dark 
nebula in the Milky Way. One of the web sites I saw mentioned the winter 
solstice sunrise point (otherwise worthless site).

So maybe what to look for is the sun's position in the sky around sunrise 
from the Mayan location at around Dec 21, 2012.
I also ran into date issues - some say Dec 23 is the date, some as Dec 21. 
Some sources said the change adding 2 days was to fudge the date to get it 
to coincide with the current calendar solstice date instead of being two 
days out.

Kathy



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> David,
>
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
> galactic longitude.
>
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
>
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> it?
>
> -John C
>
>
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
>> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
>> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
>> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
>> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
>> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
>> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
>> long cycle.
>>
>> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
>> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
>> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
>> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
>>
>> David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Jay,

True dangers!?!?  Gasp!  You mean Brittany Spears come back tour!?!?!?!?

Oh, the humanity!

Rick ! Henderson

---- Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...> wrote: 
> You left out the Yellowstone Supervolcano.  Clearly, you are a shape-
> shifting reptilian agent of the Grays intent on distracting us from 
> the true dangers.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baker" <DBAKER5@...> wrote:
> >
> > Don't you folks listen to Coast to Coast on the radio while you're 
> up all 
> > night star gazing?  If you did, you'd know that we're all doomed 
> because in 
> > 2012 when the earth crosses the galactic plane, the poles will 
> reverse 
> > creating an ice age and Planet X (Nibiru) will come dangerously 
> close 
> > creating cataclysmic gravitational disturbances.   And you thought 
> the 
> > collapse of the banking system was something!
> > 
> > I just hope the folks from Zeta Reticuli can save us.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:37 PM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
> > 
> > 
> > > And this:
> > >
> > > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html
> > >
> > > -JC
> > >
> > > --- Tom Martinez wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Those of you who thought there was something "not
> > >> right" about the introduction image Bob Nederman used
> > >> in his talk Saturday night, you are right. See this:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

don't stop ./.. I'll be back sometime
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Thursday. Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for several  
years.

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Maybe our sun will get confused by the co-orbital dynamics of asteroid 2009 BD corkscrewing around the Earth for a few months while it visits us this year.

I guess if we believe that a 10 meter co-orbital Asteroid will confuse our sun then it could also confuse our magnetic north and it might shift to the southern hemisphere and cause the magnetic polar shift and that in turn would answer the question of how our postition in the galaxie or our how our sun's postion in the galatic plane might...  I'm confused now ,,, which came first and who's on second--- Who is on first.. er.... hum..  ;-)

I'm really confused now, who started this chain?  Better yet why?
 dt
  

-------------- Original message from "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>: -------------- 


> David, 
> 
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter 
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy, 
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured 
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is, 
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center 
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the 
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees 
> galactic longitude. 
> 
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic) 
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find 
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause 
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't 
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down 
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need 
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not 
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D 
> 
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter 
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't 
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below 
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross 
> it? 
> 
> -John C 
> 
> 
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote: 
> > ...Do you remember which object will be positioned 
> > at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking 
> > the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely 
> > given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan 
> > observation seems to indicate some understanding of 
> > galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very 
> > long cycle. 
> > 
> > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning 
> > with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we 
> > moving more away from this alignment? ...something on 
> > cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse. 
> > 
> > David Neuenschwander 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on after knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very long.
dt

-------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -------------- 

We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night this Thursday. 
> Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for several years. 
> 
> Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking these nights? 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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Good question! 



I also was wondering.... c orrect me if I'm wrong, the equatorial bulge of Earth is due to our rotation on the polar axis, correct.  I'm still wondering what effect, besides confused migrating birds, a magnetic shift will have on us?  So now our compasses point south instead of north; what else? 



-scott 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: dtrent@... 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:41:48 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole 






Maybe our sun will get confused by the co-orbital dynamics of asteroid 2009 BD corkscrewing around the Earth for a few months while it visits us this year. 

I guess if we believe that a 10 meter co-orbital Asteroid will confuse our sun then it could also confuse our magnetic north and it might shift to the southern hemisphere and cause the magnetic polar shift and that in turn would answer the question of how our postition in the galaxie or our how our sun's postion in the galatic plane might... I'm confused now ,,, which came first and who's on second--- Who is on first.. er.... hum.. ;-) 

I'm really confused now, who started this chain? Better yet why? 
dt 


-------------- Original message from "John Cravens" < John.Cravens@... >: -------------- 

> David, 
> 
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter 
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy, 
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured 
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is, 
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center 
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the 
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees 
> galactic longitude. 
> 
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic) 
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find 
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause 
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't 
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down 
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need 
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not 
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D 
> 
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter 
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't 
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below 
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross 
> it? 
> 
> -John C 
> 
> 
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote: 
> > ...Do you remember which object will be positioned 
> > at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking 
> > the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely 
> > given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan 
> > observation seems to indicate some understanding of 
> > galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very 
> > long cycle. 
> > 
> > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning 
> > with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we 
> > moving more away from this alignment? ...something on 
> > cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse. 
> > 
> > David Neuenschwander 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

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I can almost certainly make it to this one.

So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast looks 
good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at Venus, 
etc.

If there are others we can divvy things up.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, dtrent@... wrote:
>
> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on after 
knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very 
long.
> dt
> 
> -------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -
------------- 
> 
> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night 
this Thursday. 
> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for 
several years. 
> > 
> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking 
these nights? 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, the equatorial bulge is affected by the polar axis rotation and the "pull of the moon" also has an influence on it. 
It might confuse the fish that use magnetic navigation too.  Also, any person on a round the world underwater record swimming record trip might end up swimming twice as far or swimming in circles if he ended up over the new "pole."   ;-)
dt


-------------- Original message from s.kranz1@...: -------------- 


> 
> 
> Good question! 
> 
> 
> I also was wondering.... c orrect me if I'm wrong, the equatorial bulge of Earth is due to our rotation on the polar axis, correct.  I'm still wondering what effect, besides confused migrating birds, a magnetic shift will have on us?  So 
> now our compasses point south instead of north; what else? 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: dtrent@... 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:41:48 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe our sun will get confused by the co-orbital dynamics of asteroid 2009 BD 
> corkscrewing around the Earth for a few months while it visits us this year. 
> I guess if we believe that a 10 meter co-orbital Asteroid will confuse our sun then it could also confuse our magnetic north and it might shift to the southern hemisphere and cause the magnetic polar shift and that in turn would answer the 
> question of how our postition in the galaxie or our how our sun's postion in the 
> galatic plane might... I'm confused now ,,, which came first and who's on 
> second--- Who is on first.. er.... hum.. ;-) 
> 
> I'm really confused now, who started this chain? Better yet why? 
> dt 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from "John Cravens" < John.Cravens@... 
> >: -------------- 
> 
> > David, 
> > 
> > One explanation I read of had to do with the winter 
> > solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy, 
> > as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured 
> > this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is, 
> > I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center 
> > is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the 
> > galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees 
> > galactic longitude. 
> > 
> > I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic) 
> > will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find 
> > the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause 
> > a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't 
> > understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down 
> > across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need 
> > to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not 
> > a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D 
> > 
> > And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter 
> > solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't 
> > mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below 
> > the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross 
> > it? 
> > 
> > -John C 
> > 
> > 
> > --- David Neuenschwander wrote: 
> > > ...Do you remember which object will be positioned 
> > > at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking 
> > > the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely 
> > > given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan 
> > > observation seems to indicate some understanding of 
> > > galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very 
> > > long cycle. 
> > > 
> > > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning 
> > > with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we 
> > > moving more away from this alignment? ...something on 
> > > cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse. 
> > > 
> > > David Neuenschwander 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


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 I was seeking better memories than my own about Mayan observations concerning their calendar and help to debunk industrial mysticism. Thanks for the links offered. The debunking part is well covered but I still don't find an answer about the dark lane. Waiting for a reply from Dr. Geilker.

It seems I'm not alone in the struggle to ignore chatter which is less than helpful.
?
David Neuenschwander


 


 -----Original Message-----

From: s.kranz1@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole






















    

            
Good question! 



-scott 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: dtrent@... 

To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:41:48 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 

Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole 





I'm really confused now, who started this chain? Better yet why? 

dt 



> --- David Neuenschwander wrote: 

> > Do you remember which object will be positioned 

> > at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking 

> > the end/start of the counts? 




 
    
    
    
    




    
    
 



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I seem to remember a t.v. program explaining that the shift in poles 
would occur over a period of time, and would cause changes in the 
strength of the magnetic field surrounding the earth, which leaves us 
vulnerable to negative effects of the solar wind. Sorry, don't remember 
all the specifics, but that was it in a nutshell.  Pete

Another effect would be that Aurora Australis and Aurora Borealis would take 
each other's place.  Would East and West change, or would we let them keep 
on being as they are?  Who is gettng the job of changing the "N" and "S" on 
all the compasses?  How will geese and other migratory birds navigate?  Do 
we become Amateur Sremonortsa's?  Sounds like astronomy and astrology are 
becoming one field of study again.
Geo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <s.kranz1@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole




Good question!



I also was wondering.... c orrect me if I'm wrong, the equatorial bulge of 
Earth is due to our rotation on the polar axis, correct. I'm still wondering 
what effect, besides confused migrating birds, a magnetic shift will have on 
us? So now our compasses point south instead of north; what else?



-scott




----- Original Message ----- 
From: dtrent@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:41:48 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole






Maybe our sun will get confused by the co-orbital dynamics of asteroid 2009 
BD corkscrewing around the Earth for a few months while it visits us this 
year.

I guess if we believe that a 10 meter co-orbital Asteroid will confuse our 
sun then it could also confuse our magnetic north and it might shift to the 
southern hemisphere and cause the magnetic polar shift and that in turn 
would answer the question of how our postition in the galaxie or our how our 
sun's postion in the galatic plane might... I'm confused now ,,, which came 
first and who's on second--- Who is on first.. er.... hum.. ;-)

I'm really confused now, who started this chain? Better yet why?
dt


-------------- Original message from "John Cravens" < 
John.Cravens@... >: -------------- 

> David,
>
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
> galactic longitude.
>
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
>
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> it?
>
> -John C
>
>
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
> > ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
> > at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
> > the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
> > given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
> > observation seems to indicate some understanding of
> > galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
> > long cycle.
> >
> > Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
> > with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
> > moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
> > cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
> >
> > David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------ 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

I, for one, have never fully accepted the pole reversal thing.  It is more 
likely that some gnome went around and turned all the rocks end-for-end.  If 
there was a reversal, there must, at least for a time, be a period of no 
magnetic field, thus no Magnetosphere to protect us from Solar flux.  In 
that situation, all life would be extinguished in a short time.  Sort of a 
Biblical Food, but more effective.
Geo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pjafferis" <pjafferis@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:10 PM
Subject: [ASKC] shifting poles


>I seem to remember a t.v. program explaining that the shift in poles
> would occur over a period of time, and would cause changes in the
> strength of the magnetic field surrounding the earth, which leaves us
> vulnerable to negative effects of the solar wind. Sorry, don't remember
> all the specifics, but that was it in a nutshell.  Pete
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

There is a movie "2012"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190080/
due for release late this year. Hey, there's money to be made!

So, it looks like we will need to be prepared for a lot more questions from the movie going public after that date.

I had heard about the movie, and was concerned that we would be spending a lot of our IYA time answering those type questions.

I am relieved!

Kathy

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No matter how careful, there is no way to pet a skunk and come away clean.

Geo. 

Joe and I will be there. Likely we will rotate scope duty with table inside. 
I'll bring my propane heater.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night


>I can almost certainly make it to this one.
>
> So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast looks
> good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at Venus,
> etc.
>
> If there are others we can divvy things up.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, dtrent@... wrote:
>>
>> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on after
> knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very
> long.
>> dt
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -
> ------------- 
>>
>> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night
> this Thursday.
>> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for
> several years.
>> >
>> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking
> these nights?
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------ 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I'll do my best to be there. Is it the same date as last year Jan. 31?
 
Dave

 
 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night



Joe and I will be there. Likely we will rotate scope duty with table inside.

I'll bring my propane heater.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@ <mailto:jaymanifold%40earthlink.net>
earthlink.net>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night

>I can almost certainly make it to this one.
>
> So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast looks
> good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at Venus,
> etc.
>
> If there are others we can divvy things up.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, dtrent@...
wrote:
>>
>> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on after
> knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very
> long.
>> dt
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -
> ------------- 
>>
>> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night
> this Thursday.
>> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for
> several years.
>> >
>> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking
> these nights?
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------ 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



 


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I see it's this Thurs the 29th.   Seems like they have it on the last Thurs.
of Jan. each year.
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager


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  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night



Joe and I will be there. Likely we will rotate scope duty with table inside.

I'll bring my propane heater.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@ <mailto:jaymanifold%40earthlink.net>
earthlink.net>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night

>I can almost certainly make it to this one.
>
> So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast looks
> good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at Venus,
> etc.
>
> If there are others we can divvy things up.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, dtrent@...
wrote:
>>
>> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on after
> knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very
> long.
>> dt
>>
>> -------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -
> ------------- 
>>
>> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science night
> this Thursday.
>> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for
> several years.
>> >
>> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop booking
> these nights?
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------ 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 



 


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I remember those days!
One of Vic's favorite pasttimes was hot tub 
observing back when we lived in Roeland Park.
Record for cold temperatures was -11�F.
Yes, a true observer would comment that hot tub 
disturbs the seeing cells overhead of the hot 
tub, but anyone in a hot tub remembers that on 
cold nights, true to form, the wind blows all 
that nice toasty air off laterally, so the effect 
is reduced to just a few feet of the seeing effect.
The coldest nights are those without clouds, so 
best views were when it was really chee-chee cold.
We did bring binocs out to the deck and kept them 
handy so we could attest someday to having 
observed from the actual hot tub.  The trouble 
always came when dealing with the effects of wet 
hands as outside air temps would freeze the water 
to everything.  Hands stick to the binocs.  Vic's 
moustache always froze over.  It looked ridiculous.

But in the end, we have the proud honor of being able to say
"I was there.  -11�F, observing with Binoc's from the hot tub."
((No T-shirt, sorry))

Clear skies,
jen

At 10:34 AM 1/22/2009, you wrote:

>Don:
>
>I considered taking a portable hot tub to the Great Plains a few years
>ago. I figured the steam rising wouldn't be good for the optics. Dave
>Young and I considered for the DSS also. Water is cheap in Butler. I
>thought I would use a trailer with 7K lbs axles and haul water and a
>stock tank. Dave had a pump. We thought we could build a simple version.
>
>Oh yes, how nice would it be.....hot tub and stars.
>
>After the star party, we thought we could rent it out for sorority parties.
>
>Joe
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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No, no, no.   Your picture got it all wrong.
http://www.moonglow.net/eclipse/2003nov23/composite2.jpg

Relative image sizes of Moon and Sun taken from 
73� South image taken 23 minutes after local 
midnight, so it was as set as sun got that day.


Jen



Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> So maybe what to look for is the sun's position in the sky around
sunrise 
> from the Mayan location at around Dec 21, 2012.
> I also ran into date issues - some say Dec 23 is the date, some as
Dec 21. 
> Some sources said the change adding 2 days was to fudge the date to
get it 
> to coincide with the current calendar solstice date instead of being
two 
> days out.


So as to confuse the issue we have only had the GREGORIAN calendar
around since 1582AD. Since the last day of the Julian calendar was
Thursday, 4 October 1582 and this was followed by the first day of the
Gregorian calendar, Friday, 15 October 1582, there were approximately
11 days lost. So which calendar system references Dec 21/23 and is
that in alignment with the Mayan Calendar, which predated the Julian?????

Inquiring minds want to know!

Rob

as long as it needs to be. Not book length, but whatever is necessary  
to say what you need to say. I'll work with anything.
M
On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:23 PM, TKristl100@... wrote:

> I am writing something. How long do you want?
>  Tim
>
>
>  In a message dated 1/25/2009 1:15:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mryoung@... writes:
>
>  If anyone has anything to contribute, please send to me by Wed., Jan.
>  28. Thanks! Also, a note today that it will be coming would be most
>  helpful.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Marcia
>
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Marcia, 



If possible, I still want to get a little thing in for the March Messier Marathon again. 



I'll get it to you Tuesday. 



-scott 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcia Young" <mryoung@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:03:22 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Feb. CM 






as long as it needs to be. Not book length, but whatever is necessary 
to say what you need to say. I'll work with anything. 
M 
On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:23 PM, TKristl100@aol.com wrote: 

> I am writing something. How long do you want? 
> Tim 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/25/2009 1:15:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> mryoung@... writes: 
> 
> If anyone has anything to contribute, please send to me by Wed., Jan. 
> 28. Thanks! Also, a note today that it will be coming would be most 
> helpful. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Marcia 
> 
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I just sent this message to the Board, in response to some ongoing 
communication about problems at the January GM:

After thinking it over, I've decided that what we witnessed Saturday 
night was an elaborate practical joke.  I'm sure we're all committed 
to never allowing a General Meeting to get taken over that way again.

Also, by way of being constructive, if we're hurting for speakers, 
I'm sure I can put a talk together.  I've given several different 
presentations at Powell and JCCC and been well-received, and I'm 
working on one now that I'm arranging to have video'd and uploaded 
to YouTube or something similar.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "George  Allen" <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> No matter how careful, there is no way to pet a skunk and come 
away clean.
> 
> Geo.
>

That'd be fine.
M
On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:56 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote:

>
>
>  Marcia,
>
>  If possible, I still want to get a little thing in for the March 
> Messier Marathon again.
>
>  I'll get it to you Tuesday.
>
>  -scott
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Marcia Young" <mryoung@...>
>  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:03:22 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Feb. CM
>
>  as long as it needs to be. Not book length, but whatever is necessary
>  to say what you need to say. I'll work with anything.
>  M
>  On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:23 PM, TKristl100@... wrote:
>
>  > I am writing something. How long do you want?
>  > Tim
>  >
>  >
>  > In a message dated 1/25/2009 1:15:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>  > mryoung@... writes:
>  >
>  > If anyone has anything to contribute, please send to me by Wed., 
> Jan.
>  > 28. Thanks! Also, a note today that it will be coming would be most
>  > helpful.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Marcia
>  >
>  > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just
>  > 2 easy
>  > steps!
>  >
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>       

Now.  I looked this up a few years ago, and remember reading that.   The
Mayans counted back to the beginning of the long "period" to when the Sun
was back in the dark rift of the Milky Way.   They called this the birth
canal; the Sun was "born" from there  had been moving out of it for quite a
time.   They projected time forward to when the Sun would be right back
where it came from (in front of the dark rift) and that was the end of their
long period.     

 

Jackie Beucher

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Cravens
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole

 

David,

One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
galactic longitude.

I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D

And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
it?

-John C

--- David Neuenschwander wrote:
> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
> long cycle.
> 
> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
> 
> David Neuenschwander

 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom,

I'm not surprised. As I said, it was just something
I read somewhere; I wasn't claiming it was true. ;-)

Anyway, thanks for the info, and for the image. I'm 
just curious about when the solar system will cross
the galactic equator, and what effects, if any, it
might have on the Sun and the Earth.

John


--- Tom Martinez wrote:
>
> John:  I played with StarryNight planetarium software
> and according to it the Winter solstice position has
> alread been crossed.  I started with 2009 and jumped
> forward one year at a time to 2012 but it was going
> further away, so I went backwards and it crossed
> around May, 1998.
> 
> I will upload an image to the Files Section.
> 
> Tom J. Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> --- John Cravens wrote:
> > And when is this going to happen? Just because the 
> > winter solstice's position is crossing the galactic
> > plane doesn't mean that the sun is. Anyone know how
> > far above or below the galactic plane we currently
> > are, or when we will cross it?
> > 
> > -John C

Ascribing  much insight to a culture that ripped the beating hearts from 
small children to appease their angry gods,  is going too far.  The Mayans 
did closely note movement in the celestial sphere and built some cool 
structures, but that only requires close attention to detail, not the 
superior intelligence that would be needed to accurately  predict events 
hundreds of years distant.  Don't forget they mistook the Conquistadors for 
gods.
Geo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie Beucher" <m31@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> Now.  I looked this up a few years ago, and remember reading that.   The
> Mayans counted back to the beginning of the long "period" to when the Sun
> was back in the dark rift of the Milky Way.   They called this the birth
> canal; the Sun was "born" from there  had been moving out of it for quite 
> a
> time.   They projected time forward to when the Sun would be right back
> where it came from (in front of the dark rift) and that was the end of 
> their
> long period.
>
>
>
> Jackie Beucher
>
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
> Cravens
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:44 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
>
>
>
> David,
>
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
> galactic longitude.
>
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
>
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> it?
>
> -John C
>
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
>> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
>> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
>> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
>> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
>> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
>> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
>> long cycle.
>>
>> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
>> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
>> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
>> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
>>
>> David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Well when Sasquatch came flying by on a chariot of the gods on his way to 
Loch Ness, he might have stopped off and told them a few things about 
Egyptian piramid building.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole


> Ascribing  much insight to a culture that ripped the beating hearts from
> small children to appease their angry gods,  is going too far.  The Mayans
> did closely note movement in the celestial sphere and built some cool
> structures, but that only requires close attention to detail, not the
> superior intelligence that would be needed to accurately  predict events
> hundreds of years distant.  Don't forget they mistook the Conquistadors 
> for
> gods.
> Geo.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jackie Beucher" <m31@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
>
>
>> Now.  I looked this up a few years ago, and remember reading that.   The
>> Mayans counted back to the beginning of the long "period" to when the Sun
>> was back in the dark rift of the Milky Way.   They called this the birth
>> canal; the Sun was "born" from there  had been moving out of it for quite
>> a
>> time.   They projected time forward to when the Sun would be right back
>> where it came from (in front of the dark rift) and that was the end of
>> their
>> long period.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jackie Beucher
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> John
>> Cravens
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:44 PM
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
>>
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
>> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
>> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
>> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
>> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
>> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
>> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
>> galactic longitude.
>>
>> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
>> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
>> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
>> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
>> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
>> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
>> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
>> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
>>
>> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
>> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
>> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
>> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
>> it?
>>
>> -John C
>>
>> --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
>>> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
>>> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
>>> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
>>> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
>>> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
>>> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
>>> long cycle.
>>>
>>> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
>>> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
>>> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
>>> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
>>>
>>> David Neuenschwander
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Dear Members of the ASKC:

First and foremost, the Board of Directors meeting is the official venue 
to conduct business concerning its operation and to present concerns and 
complaints.  This meeting is open to ALL MEMBERS of the ASKC.  As to the 
letter mentioned authored by Neta Apple, I have no direct knowledge of 
its existence.  Those individuals who schedule speakers do so with the 
sole intent of its content being relevant to astronomy.  It has never 
been the policy of this organization to ask for an advanced showing or 
copy of the presentation being offered for pier review, content or 
censorship. 

The Vice-President accepts on good faith that the material content will 
be factual, historically accurate and presented in a professional 
manor.  The VP and I discuss speakers after each meeting.  This case 
will be no different. 

Any complaints or concerns brought to the attention of the Board shall 
be directed to the Chair (President) and not be disrespectful to fellow 
members in direct, personal attacks.

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Wright
President

Ah, you mean, unlike the society that burned "witches" at the stake and
tortured humans in the name of God while discovering that the Earth was not
flat and building telescopes etc.?  Hmm, yes, I see how that society was
clearly of superior intelligence. ;)

 

While not expecting the world to end in 2012 or to become telepathic in the
next few years, I'm also not ready to diminish any contribution from other
cultures (leave alone diminishing their IQ) based on religious practices or
assorted forms of cruelty.  If we did that, no culture would be of much
worth, including our modern Western civilization (Abu Ghraib, Nazi camps,
Stalin gulags, corporate power, unnecessary vivisection, drugs and chemicals
routinely tested on people around the world, bio/chem. warfare, cruelty to
animals...  Yep, we're a model of enlightenment.)

 

:)

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
Allen
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:37 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole

 

Ascribing much insight to a culture that ripped the beating hearts from 
small children to appease their angry gods, is going too far. The Mayans 
did closely note movement in the celestial sphere and built some cool 
structures, but that only requires close attention to detail, not the 
superior intelligence that would be needed to accurately predict events 
hundreds of years distant. Don't forget they mistook the Conquistadors for 
gods.
Geo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie Beucher" <m31@everestkc. <mailto:m31%40everestkc.net> net>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole

> Now. I looked this up a few years ago, and remember reading that. The
> Mayans counted back to the beginning of the long "period" to when the Sun
> was back in the dark rift of the Milky Way. They called this the birth
> canal; the Sun was "born" from there had been moving out of it for quite 
> a
> time. They projected time forward to when the Sun would be right back
> where it came from (in front of the dark rift) and that was the end of 
> their
> long period.
>
>
>
> Jackie Beucher
>
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
John
> Cravens
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:44 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
>
>
>
> David,
>
> One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
> solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
> as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
> this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
> I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
> is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
> galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
> galactic longitude.
>
> I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
> will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
> the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
> a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
> understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
> across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
> to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
> a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
>
> And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> it?
>
> -John C
>
> --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
>> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
>> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
>> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
>> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
>> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
>> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
>> long cycle.
>>
>> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
>> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
>> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
>> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
>>
>> David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

 



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is this the inside-only gig, or scopes set up outside
too? If there's telescope viewing involved, I'll try
and make it out there, conditions permitting.

John C


--- David Young wrote:
>
> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood
> Science night this Thursday. Brookwood is at 3411
> West 103rd and we have participated for several years.
> 
> Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I
> stop booking these nights?

Gina:  Well put!  Unfortunately increased intelligence has nothing to 
do with a decrease in evil.  Just the opposite.

Unfortunately, the internet is a highly effective way to promote 
their doomsayer fanatisicsm.

Nice to hear from you Gina.

Tom J. Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Gina Fedon" <antares@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, you mean, unlike the society that burned "witches" at the stake 
and
> tortured humans in the name of God while discovering that the Earth 
was not
> flat and building telescopes etc.?  Hmm, yes, I see how that 
society was
> clearly of superior intelligence. ;)
> 
>  
> 
> While not expecting the world to end in 2012 or to become 
telepathic in the
> next few years, I'm also not ready to diminish any contribution 
from other
> cultures (leave alone diminishing their IQ) based on religious 
practices or
> assorted forms of cruelty.  If we did that, no culture would be of 
much
> worth, including our modern Western civilization (Abu Ghraib, Nazi 
camps,
> Stalin gulags, corporate power, unnecessary vivisection, drugs and 
chemicals
> routinely tested on people around the world, bio/chem. warfare, 
cruelty to
> animals...  Yep, we're a model of enlightenment.)
> 
>  
> 
> :)
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of George
> Allen
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:37 PM
> To: ASKC@...m
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
> 
>  
> 
> Ascribing much insight to a culture that ripped the beating hearts 
from 
> small children to appease their angry gods, is going too far. The 
Mayans 
> did closely note movement in the celestial sphere and built some 
cool 
> structures, but that only requires close attention to detail, not 
the 
> superior intelligence that would be needed to accurately predict 
events 
> hundreds of years distant. Don't forget they mistook the 
Conquistadors for 
> gods.
> Geo.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jackie Beucher" <m31@everestkc. <mailto:m31%40everestkc.net> 
net>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
> 
> > Now. I looked this up a few years ago, and remember reading that. 
The
> > Mayans counted back to the beginning of the long "period" to when 
the Sun
> > was back in the dark rift of the Milky Way. They called this the 
birth
> > canal; the Sun was "born" from there had been moving out of it 
for quite 
> > a
> > time. They projected time forward to when the Sun would be right 
back
> > where it came from (in front of the dark rift) and that was the 
end of 
> > their
> > long period.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jackie Beucher
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On 
Behalf Of
> John
> > Cravens
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:44 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sun and Moon Set at the Pole
> >
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > One explanation I read of had to do with the winter
> > solstice coinciding with the center of the galaxy,
> > as the Mayans perceived it to be. How they figured
> > this out without actually knowing what a galaxy is,
> > I can't imagine. We now know that the actual center
> > is several degrees away. The solstice will cross the
> > galactic equator in 2012, but at around 6.5 degrees
> > galactic longitude.
> >
> > I don't think the plane of our solar system (ecliptic)
> > will ever align with the galactic plane, but I do find
> > the idea that crossing the galactic equator might cause
> > a magnetic pole reversal interesting...but what I don't
> > understand is what causes the sun to wander up and down
> > across it in its orbit around the galactic center. Need
> > to bone up on orbital mechanics, I guess, as this is not
> > a two- or three-body equation, but a 400 billion-body. :D
> >
> > And when is this going to happen? Just because the winter
> > solstice's position is crossing the galactic plane doesn't
> > mean that the sun is. Anyone know how far above or below
> > the galactic plane we currently are, or when we will cross
> > it?
> >
> > -John C
> >
> > --- David Neuenschwander wrote:
> >> ...Do you remember which object will be positioned
> >> at the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking
> >> the end/start of the counts? Is it Venus? Unlikely
> >> given the timing at the winter solstice. This Mayan
> >> observation seems to indicate some understanding of
> >> galactic rotation but they were only aware of a very
> >> long cycle.
> >>
> >> Questions about the plane of our solar system aligning
> >> with that of the Milky Way are puzzling me. Aren't we
> >> moving more away from this alignment? ...something on
> >> cable TV mentioned this as the mechanism of apocalypse.
> >>
> >> David Neuenschwander
> >
> >
> >
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Both. Come on out.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:04 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night


> Is this the inside-only gig, or scopes set up outside
> too? If there's telescope viewing involved, I'll try
> and make it out there, conditions permitting.
> 
> John C
> 
> 
> --- David Young wrote:
>>
>> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood
>> Science night this Thursday. Brookwood is at 3411
>> West 103rd and we have participated for several years.
>> 
>> Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I
>> stop booking these nights?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 
>

PBS' Nova did a show on this back in 2004 titled "Magnetic Storm".  I Netflixed it about three years ago and thought it was pretty good.  Don't remember it taking the tone of 'doomsday is coming--soon'.  I do remember it being pretty interesting, need to re-watch it so I remember it better.

Grant Miller
Warrensburg

       

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Day , time and particulars?
Eric


. Brookwood school science night
    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
    Date: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:43 am ((PST))

Anyone thinking about going to the Brookwood School Science night?

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 Passing this along to the educators out there.

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Thursday 6:00 to 8:00   set up any time after 4:30 at 3411 West 103rd 
Scopes, set up their StarLab and inside displays.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <KCStarguy@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:33 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Brookwood School


> Day , time and particulars?
> Eric
>
>
> . Brookwood school science night
>    Posted by: "David Young" dyoung8@... dyoung8us
>    Date: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:43 am ((PST))
>
> Anyone thinking about going to the Brookwood School Science night?
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Just for clarification, the Sun and Moon as seen from Earth appear to 
be nearly the same size, about half a degree in diameter.  While the 
Earth- Moon distance and the Earth-Sun distance do change a bit due 
to the orbits of the Earth and Moon being slightly elliptical, the 
apparent sizes of the Sun and Moon will not vary from each other by 
as much as indicated in this image.  It is this slight variation that 
causes some solar eclipses to be annular, with a fiery ring of the 
Sun visible, rather than total.  

For a look at the real scale of change in the apparent size of the 
Moon see http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/moon_ap_per.html 

Neta Apple


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "tom_j_martinez" <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
> Those of you who thought there was something "not right" about the 
> introduction image Bob Nederman used in his talk Saturday night, 
you 
> are right.  See this:
> http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/northpole.asp
> 
> I must me so involved with other things that I had never heard 
about 
> the "Mayan Calander 2012 Apocalypse" until last night's general 
> meeting, but then I usually don't pay attention to stuff like 
this.  
> Bob gave a good presentation on this subject, but with all due 
> respect, I think its just nonsense.  Just my opinion.
> 
> I'm sure most of you remember the planetary alignment back in 1982 
> that was supposed to wreck havoc with this world.  That never 
> happened.  If you do a Google search "mayan calendar 2012" you'll 
> find all kinds of stuff on this.
> 
> I guess we'll just have to wait 3 more years to see what happens.  
> I'll bet in 2014 all the doomsayers will just go on to some other 
far-
> fetched scenario.
> 
> "Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here"
> Tom J. Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>

Well, after reading all the messages following the meeting Saturday night, I
think there may be some confusion due to all the topics Bob summed up in his
presentation, and the loads of incorrect material about 2012 out there on
the net don't help clarifying the issue. As Bob pointed out, the Mayan
calendar doesn't predict the "end time", the end of the world.  It's not a
geological calendar, but an EVOLUTIONARY one, which is not the same thing at
all.  Whether we believe that humanity will experience another evolutionary
step or not, whether we believe that the highest point on our journey is to
be one with the galactic consciousness or we instead think we are already
the pinnacle of intellectual, physical and spiritual evolution, it has
absolutely nothing to do with poles shifting or the solar cycle or planets
alignment or the next ice age etc.

 

I think we should look (and accept as feasible or dismiss) each individual
issue, and yes, of course, consider any interactions that could have a
combined effect, but dumping everything under "Mayan calendar doomsday
scenario" seems to be the wrong approach. 


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"tom_j_martinez" <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
> I must me so involved with other things that I had never heard 
about 
> the "Mayan Calander 2012 Apocalypse" until last night's general 
> meeting, but then I usually don't pay attention to stuff like 
this. 





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At astronomy camp, Rita and I learned about using a tennis ball and 
penny for the Earth and Moon.  Since we work mainly with Girl Scouts 
8-14 in age, we keep the math simple for them to figure out on their own 
without using a calculator.

Remember we are grossly rounding for ease of calculations and example.

Earth's circumference..........24,000
Earth's diameter....................8,000
E-M distance....................240,000
pi.................................................3

We get them to think about how many Earth's lined up next to each other 
would it take to reach the Moon.  Answer.........................30.  
Now, how many times do you need to wrap a piece of yarn around the Earth 
(ball) to equal this distance.............use pi............10.

The girls wrap the string around the ball and cut it.  Tie a paper clip 
to one end and tape the penny to the other.  Cut a small slit into the 
ball and make a Pacman mouth by squeezing the ball and insert the paper 
clip.  It is locked in.  In a darkened room you can simulate both 
eclipses using a strong light (slide projector or mag light).  You can 
actually project a small shadow of the penny on the tennis ball and 
totally cover the penny when you switch position of the Earth and Moon.

I do believe the Sun is 400 times larger in diameter than the Moon and 
400 times farther away.

This is a cheap and great activity for kids.

Joe

I can come and I will bring my 70mm telescope.

What time?

Is this school in Overland Park?

John Benz



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Joe and I will be there. Likely we will rotate scope duty with 
table inside. 
> I'll bring my propane heater.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:43 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night
> 
> 
> >I can almost certainly make it to this one.
> >
> > So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast 
looks
> > good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at 
Venus,
> > etc.
> >
> > If there are others we can divvy things up.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, dtrent@ wrote:
> >>
> >> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on 
after
> > knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very
> > long.
> >> dt
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@>: -
> > ------------- 
> >>
> >> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science 
night
> > this Thursday.
> >> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for
> > several years.
> >> >
> >> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop 
booking
> > these nights?
> >> >
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Its in Leawood at 3411 West 103rd Street. That's a few blocks east of 
Mission Road on the south side of the street.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night


>I can come and I will bring my 70mm telescope.
>
> What time?
>
> Is this school in Overland Park?
>
> John Benz
>
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> Joe and I will be there. Likely we will rotate scope duty with
> table inside.
>> I'll bring my propane heater.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:43 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Brookwood School Science Night
>>
>>
>> >I can almost certainly make it to this one.
>> >
>> > So, assuming I'm the only volunteer, and it's clear (forecast
> looks
>> > good as of now), I'll set up my 'scope for people to look at
> Venus,
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > If there are others we can divvy things up.
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, dtrent@ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> David, I would help but I am grounded for awhile as I am on
> after
>> > knee Surgery (meds) and it still hurts to walk and stand for very
>> > long.
>> >> dt
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> We currently have zero volunteers for the Brookwood Science
> night
>> > this Thursday.
>> >> > Brookwood is at 3411 West 103rd and we have participated for
>> > several years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since it appears no one wants to do these, shall I stop
> booking
>> > these nights?
>> >> >
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While no expert on the Mayan 2012 mythology that I hear was presented at the last GM, John Cravens did ask an interesting question about our location in the disk of the galaxy and when would we "cross" the plane next time. 

Our galaxy disk is about 1000 LY thick at our location about 1/2 way out frm the center. I have seen figures that our Sun is 100 - 200 light years above (or below) the actual plane. But keep in mind that this "plane" is rather inprecise since it is just the center of a mist of billions of stars. In any case, we are far enough away (even at 100 LY) that we are certainly NOT going to "cross" this plane by 2012. I have read that it will take several million years for us to lazily oscillate to the other side of the disk in our 250 million year orbit of the galaxy core. 

I can't imagine any physics that would cause the magnetic pole of the Earth to "switch" as we cross the disk plane as suggested by some. In fact, the Earth's magnetic field at the surface is at least 100 times as strong as the overall galaxy magnetic field. 

None of this 2012 Mayan hocum makes sense really from a science perspective. 

Dave H. 

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I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12. 
I have a possible conflict. 
Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
Dan Johnson 

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Jackie B.

 

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gdj561956
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement

 

I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12. 
I have a possible conflict. 
Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
Dan Johnson 

 



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Dave,

Thank you for responding. I was afraid my question
got lost among all the 2012/Mayan calendar hubbub.

I know that the fossil record shows a magnetic shift
happening at fairly regular intervals, and I wonder
why. But I think it probably has more to do with the
variable star we call Sol than with our position in
the galaxy.

And FWIW, I heartily agree with your last statement. ;^)

John C


--- Dave Hudgins wrote:
> 
> While no expert on the Mayan 2012 mythology that I
> hear was presented at the last GM, John Cravens did
> ask an interesting question about our location in
> the disk of the galaxy and when would we "cross" the
> plane next time. 
> 
> Our galaxy disk is about 1000 LY thick at our location
> about 1/2 way out frm the center. I have seen figures
> that our Sun is 100 - 200 light years above (or below)
> the actual plane. But keep in mind that this "plane" is
> rather inprecise since it is just the center of a mist
> of billions of stars. In any case, we are far enough
> away (even at 100 LY) that we are certainly NOT going
> to "cross" this plane by 2012. I have read that it will
> take several million years for us to lazily oscillate to
> the other side of the disk in our 250 million year orbit
> of the galaxy core. 
> 
> I can't imagine any physics that would cause the magnetic
> pole of the Earth to "switch" as we cross the disk plane
> as suggested by some. In fact, the Earth's magnetic field
> at the surface is at least 100 times as strong as the
> overall galaxy magnetic field. 
> 
> None of this 2012 Mayan hocum makes sense really from a
> science perspective. 
> 
> Dave H. 

I would like to hear a reasonable theory about why the magnetic poles drift 
and invert. I know they are now drifiting and weakening. Could it involve a 
mechanisim similar to what causes the sun to flip but involving the currents 
in the magma instead of currents in plasma? 

Jason and I finally figured out a new control relay for the new shutter motor. He will dress up the wiring a little and we are ready for an installation work party as soon as Darrick can arrange it. 

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Well,

After a good bit of head scratching (and other scratching, arguing, 
discussing, and lots of sheets of paper and many "but, oh, what 
about...") brought on by the new motor for the dome shutter not being 
electrically identical to the old motor, David Young and I have devised 
a solution and tested it on my workbench this evening. A few more things 
to do to mount a new relay within the existing controller box, check the 
operation of the motor once again, and then we'll be ready to ask for 
another work party -- this time to re-install the motor. One experiment 
needs to be conducted at the time of install: does the motor need to 
turn CW or CCW for "UP" versus "DOWN" -- that answer will determine one 
final wire placement to get a controlling signal correctly.

Having learned the lesson of the *^^%%(?) (mud-daubers) on and in the 
motor and lady-bug-like Japanese beetles filling the existing conduit, 
we will be running the wires to the motor totally enclosed in conduit 
from the control box to the motor using one single piece of liquid-tight 
flexible conduit. There will be no place for those suckers to get in. 
Since the motor will be used with such a short duty-cycle, we've even 
removed the external cooling fan and it's attendant shroud -- leaving 
them on would have only given the "Damn Bugs" a place to hide their 
cursed nests and interfere with the operation. The only thing left to 
accomodate are the two wires from the limit switches as they enter the 
control box, and I have a sealing fix for that. And since things will be 
sealed, it can rain or snow inside the dome and the shutter motor and 
control box innards will stay nice and dry.

I had desired to "reverse engineer" the existing control box, but 
realized it was not necessary -- I know how the motor is supposed to 
function, and with this new motor, I can design a new, smaller, greatly 
simplified and mostly solid-state control box. That will have to wait 
for a few honey-do's to get completed, though.

Stay tuned for a request for volunteers and scaffolding later this week.....

Jason Forst,

Oh, and Matthew's name is Matthew <grin>




Darrick wrote:
> We had a good day at the dome. Not a great day but a good one. Big
> thanks to the following  - Charles,Joe,David,Mitch,Jay,Jason and Eric.
> Jasons son also helped out in trying to figure out the wiring but I
> can't for the life of me remember his name, for that I am sorry. 
>
> We removed the motor from the shutter and found it completely filled
> with dirt from mud dobbers. We were able to get a replacement motor
> and it looked as though we were going to start and finish a project in
> just 1 day!!!! But of course we aren't that lucky. The new motor
> wiring got to us and we need to do some thinking. The wiring that was
> there also got replaced. 
>
> The dome is out of commision until we get the new one in. I plan for
> the down time to be minimal. 
>
> Thanks again for coming out to help guys. By the way, if Eric ever
> offers to bring you coffee, take him up on it. 
>
> Darrick
>
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The story goes that Earth has a liquid ferro-nickle center with a solid 
ferro-nickle core, very hot, of course, and rotating.  If this is so, it 
could change it's orientation to the lithosphere above it very easily. 
Since the Earth's magnetic field is a result of the dynamo effect of the 
rotating iron core, not the thin solid lithosphere, the magnetic poles on 
the surface could wander all over hell and gone, much as the gas in a 
balloon can rotate with no effect on the balloon, itself.  All of this is 
deduced from wave studies and theory.  I will not be surprised if it is 
changed a few more times, but I find it interesting that our planet's center 
is much the same makeup as many meteorites. Iron, stone and nickel.

So the better question is why don't the magnetic poles move more on the 
surface, since the motion of Earth on it's axis and in it's orbit around the 
sun, a rotating frame of reference, should produce a coriolis or Euler 
effect on the free-floating core?

Geo.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:40 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re:Magnetic pole drift and switch


>I would like to hear a reasonable theory about why the magnetic poles drift
> and invert. I know they are now drifiting and weakening. Could it involve 
> a
> mechanisim similar to what causes the sun to flip but involving the 
> currents
> in the magma instead of currents in plasma?
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> 

That sounds great guys. New shutter motor with no holes for the�wasps to get inside!!!! Just curious, how much�horse power is the motor, and how heavy is the motor.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:44:20 PM
Subject: [ASKC] shutter motor


Jason and I finally figured out a new control relay for the new shutter motor. He will dress up the wiring a little and we are ready for an installation work party as soon as Darrick can arrange it. 

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Same size and weight as the old motor. It's 1/2 hp 230 volt.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] shutter motor


That sounds great guys. New shutter motor with no holes for the wasps to get 
inside!!!! Just curious, how much horse power is the motor, and how heavy is 
the motor.
Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy




________________________________
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:44:20 PM
Subject: [ASKC] shutter motor


Jason and I finally figured out a new control relay for the new shutter 
motor. He will dress up the wiring a little and we are ready for an 
installation work party as soon as Darrick can arrange it.

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Yahoo! Groups Links

fyi

Okie Tx September 12 - 20, 2009

HOASP  October 15 - 18, 2009

Mike Sterling

A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos directed some "stuff" to my house.

Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:

Linksys Wireless B Printserver
Contribute 3 web publishing software
Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a laptop

Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'll take the office software!
 
Please
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager


FABRICATED METAL SOLUTIONS

Venture Industrial Products, Inc.
525 S.E. Oldham Parkway
Lee's Summit, MO  64081
816-524-0441

Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter.
Ansel Adams



 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] strange occurance



A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos
directed some "stuff" to my house.

Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:

Linksys Wireless B Printserver
Contribute 3 web publishing software
Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a
laptop

Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

At least save 2or3 please..  Others might want one too..
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager


FABRICATED METAL SOLUTIONS

Venture Industrial Products, Inc.
525 S.E. Oldham Parkway
Lee's Summit, MO  64081
816-524-0441

Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter.
Ansel Adams



 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:49 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] strange occurance



I'll take the office software!

Please


David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager

FABRICATED METAL SOLUTIONS

Venture Industrial Products, Inc.
525 S.E. Oldham Parkway
Lee's Summit, MO 64081
816-524-0441

Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
the shutter.
Ansel Adams

_____ 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
David
Young
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:39 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ASKC] strange occurance

A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos
directed some "stuff" to my house.

Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:

Linksys Wireless B Printserver
Contribute 3 web publishing software
Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a
laptop

Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'll give you at least 2 copies since you are the first responder. If no one 
steps up asking for a copy you can have a couple more.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: " David" <dfox@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [ASKC] strange occurance


> I'll take the office software!
>
> Please
>
>
> David M. Fox
> Information Systems Manager
>
>
> FABRICATED METAL SOLUTIONS
>
> Venture Industrial Products, Inc.
> 525 S.E. Oldham Parkway
> Lee's Summit, MO  64081
> 816-524-0441
>
> Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click
> the shutter.
> Ansel Adams
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David
> Young
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:39 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] strange occurance
>
>
>
> A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos
> directed some "stuff" to my house.
>
> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:
>
> Linksys Wireless B Printserver
> Contribute 3 web publishing software
> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a
> laptop
>
> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I will take one Adobe Acrobat 6
I use it for AL observing info handouts
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:38 PM
Subject: [ASKC] strange occurance


>A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos 
>directed some "stuff" to my house.
>
> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:
>
> Linksys Wireless B Printserver
> Contribute 3 web publishing software
> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a 
> laptop
>
> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

You got it Kathy. Marcia uses acrobat to work on and create pdf files.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] strange occurance


>I will take one Adobe Acrobat 6
> I use it for AL observing info handouts
> Kathy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:38 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] strange occurance
>
>
>>A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos
>>directed some "stuff" to my house.
>>
>> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages:
>>
>> Linksys Wireless B Printserver
>> Contribute 3 web publishing software
>> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
>> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
>> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a
>> laptop
>>
>> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

 Jackie, you're so right. No surprise.

Did anyone record Bob's presentation? Is this worth consideration?

Diplomacy and maintenance of a sense of fun should have previously read:

Ignore what you can't use. None of us is right, the truth is. Do we help each other in this discovery?

David Neuenschwander




 -----Original Message-----

From: david9660@...
To: geilkerc@...
Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:55 am
Subject: Mayan archeoastronomical research









Hello Dr. Geilker,



I'm a member of the Astronomical Society of Kansas City and have enjoyed several of your presentations. You spoke at Linda Hall Library in 2003 and later at ASKC about your research and travels to Mayan Mexico. I don't remember which celestial object will align with the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking the end/start of the counts. The imagery suggests birth.



We had another presentation (which I missed) last Saturday at ASKC with more mystical content. Quite an industry has built up around this notion of apocalypse. My internet searches haven't provided any mention of this dark lane alignment. Could you please again share this part of your study?



You are well appreciated at ASKC. Please consider speaking to us again if circumstances allow.



Thank you,



David Neuenschwander

11845 NE 201 Rd.

Deepwater, MO 64740

816.519.6288



 



 



 



 


-----Original Message-----

From: Geilker, Charles <geilkerc@...>

To: david9660@...

Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:16 pm

Subject: RE: Mayan archeoastronomical research
























Dear David,




??????? Thanks
for your email.? I also missed the ASKC meeting Saturday night, though
I went the first time it was scheduled and the presenter couldn't make
it because of family obligations.? I wonder if the ASKC guys routinely
video tape the presentations -- this one in particular?? If anybody
did, maybe we could borrow the tape and view it together sometime at
your convenience.? Would you be willing to inquire about this?



As to the object which
enters the Dark Rift of the Milky Way, I believe it's the sun; and the
Maya considered that location to be the womb of the universe, so there
was a definite connection with birth.



Thanks for the kind
words.? I always enjoy attending the meetings and visiting with the
members, but it's getting more difficult to get up the energy to drive
to KC solo and get back late at night.



??????? C. D. Geilker

??????? 

WJC Physics




 



 



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 I could use a couple of copies of the office software if that many are still available, please.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] strange occurance






















    

            
I'll give you at least 2 copies since you are the first responder. If no one 

steps up asking for a copy you can have a couple more.



----- Original Message ----- 

From: " David" <dfox@...>

To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:49 PM

Subject: RE: [ASKC] strange occurance



> I'll take the office software!

>

> Please

>

>

> David M. Fox

> Information Systems Manager

>

>

> FABRICATED METAL SOLUTIONS

>

> Venture Industrial Products, Inc.

> 525 S.E. Oldham Parkway

> Lee's Summit, MO  64081

> 816-524-0441






.

    
           

    
    
    
    




    
    
 



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David,

If any copies of the Office 2003 are left, I could use 1 for me and 1 
for the AL.

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the 
cosmos directed some "stuff" to my house.
> 
> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened 
packages:
> 
> Linksys Wireless B Printserver
> Contribute 3 web publishing software
> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its 
for a laptop
> 
> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

David,
I just saw this not from you.  Is there still a copy of 
Adobe Acrobat 6.0  available?

I so I would like one.  

The memory chips. I wonder if they fit my laptop?
I will take it apart and check it.

dt
 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

David, has anyone spoken for the lynksys printserver?
If I can hook it up to my printer then I could on my laptop direct to the printer.
dt

-------------- Original message from "David Young" <dyoung8@...>: -------------- 

A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the cosmos 
> directed some "stuff" to my house. 
> 
> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened packages: 
> 
> Linksys Wireless B Printserver 
> Contribute 3 web publishing software 
> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies ) 
> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies ) 
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a laptop 
> 
> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them. 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have incorporated the following remark, adapted from Dr Geilker's 
talk, into my standard "galactography" explanation when pointing out 
the Summer Milky Way to the public, to wit, "if you don't think 
*that* [pointing to Sagittarius-Scutum star cloud] is a pregnant 
woman, and *that* [pointing to the dark nebula in southern Serpens 
Cauda and northern Sagittarius] is her birth canal, you probably 
shouldn't think that the world is going to end on December 21, 2012."

Dr Geilker is The Man.

--- In ASKC@...m, david9660@... wrote:
>
> 
>  Jackie, you're so right. No surprise.
> 
> Did anyone record Bob's presentation? Is this worth consideration?
> 
> Diplomacy and maintenance of a sense of fun should have previously 
read:
> 
> Ignore what you can't use. None of us is right, the truth is. Do 
we help each other in this discovery?
> 
> David Neuenschwander
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: david9660@...
> To: geilkerc@...
> Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:55 am
> Subject: Mayan archeoastronomical research
> 
> Hello Dr. Geilker,
> 
> I'm a member of the Astronomical Society of Kansas City and have 
enjoyed several of your presentations. You spoke at Linda Hall 
Library in 2003 and later at ASKC about your research and travels to 
Mayan Mexico. I don't remember which celestial object will align 
with the end of a dark lane in the Milky Way marking the end/start 
of the counts. The imagery suggests birth.
> 

 The following items are still available

 Contribute 3 web publishing software
 Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (2 copies left )
 Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its for a 
laptop

 Free to anyone who indicates a non-commercial use for them.

David,

I could use a copy of the Office software.
I have nothing that will read any .xls or
database files.

John C


--- David Young wrote:
> 
>  The following items are still available
> 
>  Contribute 3 web publishing software
>  Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003
>  (2 copies left )
>  Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250
>  512 mb looks like its for a laptop
> 
>  Free to anyone who indicates a non-commercial
>  use for them.

School Night 1/28:

I'll bring the Galilean scopes tomorrow night and to each outreach 
program we attend this year.  It will be a hoot when the Moon is up for 
the kids to see it as Galileo did.

I may even work on the Lunar/Solar Awards using these scopes.   I have 
the film to make a solar filter.

Joe

David,
I could use one of the Office 2003 copies as well if they are still
available.
 
Thanks.
 
Carroll Iorg
 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
glaze_m
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 15:27
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: strange occurance



David,

If any copies of the Office 2003 are left, I could use 1 for me and 1 
for the AL.

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "David Young"
<dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> A gravitational abnomality caused by some strange allignment in the 
cosmos directed some "stuff" to my house.
> 
> Somehow the following items have landed on my desk in unopened 
packages:
> 
> Linksys Wireless B Printserver
> Contribute 3 web publishing software
> Adobe Acrobat 6.0 ( two copies )
> Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 (8 copies )
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250 512 mb looks like its 
for a laptop
> 
> Free to anyone who can demonstate a non-commercial use for them.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

John Cravens, your name is on a copy now.

The following items are still available
 
  Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003 

  Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250
  512 mb looks like its for a laptop
 
  Free to anyone who indicates a non-commercial
  use for them.
 

When is the work party?  Been decided yet?

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Jason and I finally figured out a new control relay for the new 
shutter motor. He will dress up the wiring a little and we are ready 
for an installation work party as soon as Darrick can arrange it. 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Darrick will put out a note when he decides.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Kennedy" <ck5000@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: shutter motor


> When is the work party?  Been decided yet?
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> Jason and I finally figured out a new control relay for the new 
> shutter motor. He will dress up the wiring a little and we are ready 
> for an installation work party as soon as Darrick can arrange it. 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

 The following item is still available
 
 
 
  Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250
  512 mb looks like its for a laptop
 
  Free to anyone who indicates a non-commercial
  use for it. 

This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
the help.

Darrick

Jackie,

Are you still looking to trade?  I need to trade with someone to cover my
night with Team #1 on 9/5.

Leif


On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:

>   And.. I'm on Team Three and will be gone on July 25th. Can anyone trade
> me
> their night? Dan Johnson is doing the program the 25th.
>
> Jackie B.
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> gdj561956
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement
>
>
> I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12.
> I have a possible conflict.
> Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
> Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
> Dan Johnson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

My dilemma will be have to chose between my two favorite starpartys, HOASP and Twin Lakes Star Party in KY on Oct 10-18
I'm not sure how all this is going to play out , I know my wife's choice is KY, we may find out just who wears the pants ;-)
Dan


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. The limit 
switches do not function properly. We can proceed with installing the motor 
but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch figured out 
or just abandon the existing control box and build a new modernized version, 
the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It will work but 
must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit switches to stop 
the shutter.

Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a solution to the 
glitch.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Work Party


> This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
> shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
> to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
> is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
> the help.
>
> Darrick
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

David,

Just curious, but if the shutter motor isn't turned off when opening or closing the shutter, what happens?  Does the shutter roll off the building or would the shutter grind to a halt and burn out the motor windings?  

Not that I'm planning on doing either, but I'm curious how the shutter is mounted.

Rick Henderson

---- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote: 
> Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. The limit 
> switches do not function properly. We can proceed with installing the motor 
> but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch figured out 
> or just abandon the existing control box and build a new modernized version, 
> the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It will work but 
> must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit switches to stop 
> the shutter.
> 
> Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a solution to the 
> glitch.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
> 
> 
> > This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
> > shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
> > to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
> > is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
> > the help.
> >
> > Darrick
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 

In the closing action it would impact the lower sliding shutters and likely 
jump the sprocket in the chain lifting the upper shutter in the process and 
making a extremely loud racket signaling the operator to unplug the control 
or rotate the drum swith to the off position. In the opening sequence there 
would be a similar result except the shutter would jam in the open position 
when it jumped the track. There is a stop bracket on the back side of the 
dome that prevents the shutter from leaving the building. It would not be 
foolproof and would require an operator to pay attention and manually put 
the drum switch to the neutral position before any of this happened. That's 
why we need the limit switches funtional.

This will NOT prevent the installation of the new motor or the new conduit 
and wiring to the motor. A couple of us can finish the control modification 
and install it without a major work party and scaffolding. The control will 
be fixed or replaced BEFORE we turn the staff loose with the dome:-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rhenderson1@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Work Party


> David,
>
> Just curious, but if the shutter motor isn't turned off when opening or 
> closing the shutter, what happens?  Does the shutter roll off the building 
> or would the shutter grind to a halt and burn out the motor windings?
>
> Not that I'm planning on doing either, but I'm curious how the shutter is 
> mounted.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> ---- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>> Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. The limit
>> switches do not function properly. We can proceed with installing the 
>> motor
>> but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch figured 
>> out
>> or just abandon the existing control box and build a new modernized 
>> version,
>> the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It will work 
>> but
>> must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit switches to 
>> stop
>> the shutter.
>>
>> Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a solution to 
>> the
>> glitch.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
>> Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
>>
>>
>> > This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
>> > shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
>> > to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
>> > is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
>> > the help.
>> >
>> > Darrick
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

go with the wife's choice - gotta keep them happy  :
Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Mitchell <dsm@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 9:25 am
Subject: [ASKC] Re:Okie Tx & HOASP 2009






My dilemma will be have to chose between my two favorite starpartys, 
HOASP and Twin Lakes Star Party in KY on Oct 10-18
I'm not sure how all this is going to play out , I know my wife's 
choice is KY, we may find out just who wears the pants ;-)
Dan

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my wife wouldn't even choose a star party...

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, mikekansascity@... <mikekansascity@...> wrote:
From: mikekansascity@... <mikekansascity@...>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re:Okie Tx & HOASP 2009
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 11:49 AM

go with the wife's choice - gotta keep them happy  :
Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Mitchell <dsm@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 9:25 am
Subject: [ASKC] Re:Okie Tx & HOASP 2009






My dilemma will be have to chose between my two favorite starpartys, 
HOASP and Twin Lakes Star Party in KY on Oct 10-18
I'm not sure how all this is going to play out , I know my wife's 
choice is KY, we may find out just who wears the pants ;-)
Dan

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Yahoo! Groups Links






      

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Can anyone tell me where Team 3 is getting this info about the dates 
they're on duty?  I can't find a calendar with team nights for 2009.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:
>
> And.. I'm on Team Three and will be gone on July 25th.   Can 
anyone trade me
> their night?   Dan Johnson is doing the program the 25th.
> 
>  
> 
> Jackie B.
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of
> gdj561956
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement
> 
>  
> 
> I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12. 
> I have a possible conflict. 
> Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
> Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
> Dan Johnson 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Team leaders have the dates but Darrick is waiting until all the topics are 
set before releasing the schedule.

Hah and you thought we were withholding information from just you! 

David,

Many thanks! You're a gentleman and a scholar, and
I shall always speak well of you. ;)

I've been trying to find a reference to that memory
expansion kit on the net, and can't find it anywhere.
Is there any indication on the product as to which
laptop system(s) it's compatible with? I have an IBM
ThinkPad A20m (circa 2000) with just 128MB of RAM...

Thanks again,
John C


--- David Young wrote:
>
> John Cravens, your name is on a copy now.
> ...
> Kensington Memory expansion kit U64364c250
> 512 mb looks like its for a laptop

--- John Cravens wrote:
> > ...
> > I could use a copy of the Office software.

Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
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Prairie Branch Elementary
Thursday February 5, 2009
6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
(The next reminder for this event will be sent in 5 days.)
Location: 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO
Street: 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO
City State Zip: Grain Valley MO 64029
Phone: (816) 847-5070

Notes:
First Math & Science Night for this school.
David Fox for more info.


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My kid's school emailed me and ask if I could get some people to show and do
a little outreach program for their Math and Sci night.

But like always with very short notice!

 

Prairie Branch Elementary

2100 Dillingham Rd - Grain Valley, MO 64029

 

Next Thur.   Feb. 5th from 6pm till 8pm.

 

I'm asking for helpers.......   

 

David Fox

 

 



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Well, that means you will be coming to the HOASP. Glad to hear you're coming. 
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Dan Mitchell <dsm@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:25:24 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re:Okie Tx & HOASP 2009


My dilemma will be have to chose between my two favorite starpartys, HOASP and Twin Lakes Star Party in KY on Oct 10-18
I'm not sure how all this is going to play out , I know my wife's choice is KY, we may find out just who wears the pants ;-)
Dan

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

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What do they need? Telescopes and displays?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <dfox@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th


> My kid's school emailed me and ask if I could get some people to show and 
> do
> a little outreach program for their Math and Sci night.
>
> But like always with very short notice!
>
>
>
> Prairie Branch Elementary
>
> 2100 Dillingham Rd - Grain Valley, MO 64029
>
>
>
> Next Thur.   Feb. 5th from 6pm till 8pm.
>
>
>
> I'm asking for helpers.......
>
>
>
> David Fox
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

If you mind bring your rock display, will set you up inside with the heat,

I'll have my 20 and 10" scopes. 

If I could get one or two others to bring scopes or man a table with some
kind of display or handouts.

 

Dave

 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:25 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th

 

What do they need? Telescopes and displays?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David" <dfox@ventureindustr <mailto:dfox%40ventureindustrial.com>
ial.com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th

> My kid's school emailed me and ask if I could get some people to show and 
> do
> a little outreach program for their Math and Sci night.
>
> But like always with very short notice!
>
>
>
> Prairie Branch Elementary
>
> 2100 Dillingham Rd - Grain Valley, MO 64029
>
>
>
> Next Thur. Feb. 5th from 6pm till 8pm.
>
>
>
> I'm asking for helpers.......
>
>
>
> David Fox
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

 



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Darrick,

I can be there by about 9 AM.

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darrick 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
  Subject: [ASKC] Work Party


  This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
  shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
  to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
  is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
  the help.

  Darrick



   

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I will be at the UMKC thing instead but wanted to pass along that I 
have a source for a couple of limit switches if they're needed.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> 
wrote:
>
> Darrick,
> 
> I can be there by about 9 AM.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Darrick 
>   To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
>   Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
> 
> 
>   This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
>   shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being 
ready
>   to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know 
there
>   is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks 
for
>   the help.
> 
>   Darrick
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
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> 
>   The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> 
>   http://www.eset.com
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Flight? GO!
Communications? GO!
Life Support? GO!
Guidance? GO!

Houston, we have a go!

Darrick, get 'em lined up.

Roger just left, and provided a valuable resource to bounce a couple 
thoughts and ideas against. We have everything wired in the control box, 
and need only to connect the limit-switch wires. Have sucessfully tested 
all combinations of the motor operation and limit switch positions, and 
we are good to go. Wires to the motor are already connected inside teh 
control box, and will need only to be pushed into the flex conduit once 
it is cut to the correct length and then attached at the motor end.

I'll be at Powell on Saturday at 0800, who's joining me? WOOO HOOO!

Jason.


David Young wrote:
> In the closing action it would impact the lower sliding shutters and likely 
> jump the sprocket in the chain lifting the upper shutter in the process and 
> making a extremely loud racket signaling the operator to unplug the control 
> or rotate the drum swith to the off position. In the opening sequence there 
> would be a similar result except the shutter would jam in the open position 
> when it jumped the track. There is a stop bracket on the back side of the 
> dome that prevents the shutter from leaving the building. It would not be 
> foolproof and would require an operator to pay attention and manually put 
> the drum switch to the neutral position before any of this happened. That's 
> why we need the limit switches funtional.
>
> This will NOT prevent the installation of the new motor or the new conduit 
> and wiring to the motor. A couple of us can finish the control modification 
> and install it without a major work party and scaffolding. The control will 
> be fixed or replaced BEFORE we turn the staff loose with the dome:-)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rhenderson1@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Work Party
>
>
>   
>> David,
>>
>> Just curious, but if the shutter motor isn't turned off when opening or 
>> closing the shutter, what happens?  Does the shutter roll off the building 
>> or would the shutter grind to a halt and burn out the motor windings?
>>
>> Not that I'm planning on doing either, but I'm curious how the shutter is 
>> mounted.
>>
>> Rick Henderson
>>
>> ---- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>     
>>> Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. The limit
>>> switches do not function properly. We can proceed with installing the 
>>> motor
>>> but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch figured 
>>> out
>>> or just abandon the existing control box and build a new modernized 
>>> version,
>>> the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It will work 
>>> but
>>> must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit switches to 
>>> stop
>>> the shutter.
>>>
>>> Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a solution to 
>>> the
>>> glitch.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
>>> Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for the
>>>> shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on being ready
>>>> to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I know there
>>>> is some electrical work involving the control box to do. Thanks for
>>>> the help.
>>>>
>>>> Darrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Welllllll, you gotta come to the HOASP.  I wanna play with your 
Mellingcam!  But if you can't, let us know when you plan on visiting.

Tom J. Martinez

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Mitchell" <dsm@...> wrote:
>
> My dilemma will be have to chose between my two favorite starpartys, 
HOASP and Twin Lakes Star Party in KY on Oct 10-18
> I'm not sure how all this is going to play out , I know my wife's 
choice is KY, we may find out just who wears the pants ;-)
> Dan
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Just in case anyone is interested.

http://youdecide.hubblesite.org/

Thanks for the link Clint. I voted for the interacting galaxies.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clint Mayes" <mayescb@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Hubble's Next Discovery


> Just in case anyone is interested.
> 
> http://youdecide.hubblesite.org/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

I can come with my trusty 70 mm scope.

I assume that set up will be about 5:30 or so.

John Benz


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> If you mind bring your rock display, will set you up inside with 
the heat,
> 
> I'll have my 20 and 10" scopes. 
> 
> If I could get one or two others to bring scopes or man a table 
with some
> kind of display or handouts.
> 
>  
> 
> Dave
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of David
> Young
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:25 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th
> 
>  
> 
> What do they need? Telescopes and displays?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David" <dfox@ventureindustr <mailto:dfox%
40ventureindustrial.com>
> ial.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:03 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th
> 
> > My kid's school emailed me and ask if I could get some people to 
show and 
> > do
> > a little outreach program for their Math and Sci night.
> >
> > But like always with very short notice!
> >
> >
> >
> > Prairie Branch Elementary
> >
> > 2100 Dillingham Rd - Grain Valley, MO 64029
> >
> >
> >
> > Next Thur. Feb. 5th from 6pm till 8pm.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm asking for helpers.......
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fox
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, sir.
 
Might be able to have a snack avail. 
 
Dave
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager



  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Benz
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:49 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th



I can come with my trusty 70 mm scope.

I assume that set up will be about 5:30 or so.

John Benz

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "David"
<dfox@...> wrote:
>
> If you mind bring your rock display, will set you up inside with 
the heat,
> 
> I'll have my 20 and 10" scopes. 
> 
> If I could get one or two others to bring scopes or man a table 
with some
> kind of display or handouts.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf 
Of David
> Young
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:25 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th
> 
> 
> 
> What do they need? Telescopes and displays?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David" <dfox@ventureindustr <mailto:dfox%
40ventureindustrial.com>
> ial.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:03 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th
> 
> > My kid's school emailed me and ask if I could get some people to 
show and 
> > do
> > a little outreach program for their Math and Sci night.
> >
> > But like always with very short notice!
> >
> >
> >
> > Prairie Branch Elementary
> >
> > 2100 Dillingham Rd - Grain Valley, MO 64029
> >
> >
> >
> > Next Thur. Feb. 5th from 6pm till 8pm.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm asking for helpers.......
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fox
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I plan a late spring trip, not sure when.

Dan

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

All sounds good.  I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if it 
turns out that they are needed.

Jay
jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
mobile 913 219 0132

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Flight? GO!
> Communications? GO!
> Life Support? GO!
> Guidance? GO!
> 
> Houston, we have a go!
> 
> Darrick, get 'em lined up.
> 
> Roger just left, and provided a valuable resource to bounce a 
couple 
> thoughts and ideas against. We have everything wired in the 
control box, 
> and need only to connect the limit-switch wires. Have sucessfully 
tested 
> all combinations of the motor operation and limit switch 
positions, and 
> we are good to go. Wires to the motor are already connected inside 
teh 
> control box, and will need only to be pushed into the flex conduit 
once 
> it is cut to the correct length and then attached at the motor end.
> 
> I'll be at Powell on Saturday at 0800, who's joining me? WOOO HOOO!
> 
> Jason.
> 
> 
> David Young wrote:
> > In the closing action it would impact the lower sliding shutters 
and likely 
> > jump the sprocket in the chain lifting the upper shutter in the 
process and 
> > making a extremely loud racket signaling the operator to unplug 
the control 
> > or rotate the drum swith to the off position. In the opening 
sequence there 
> > would be a similar result except the shutter would jam in the 
open position 
> > when it jumped the track. There is a stop bracket on the back 
side of the 
> > dome that prevents the shutter from leaving the building. It 
would not be 
> > foolproof and would require an operator to pay attention and 
manually put 
> > the drum switch to the neutral position before any of this 
happened. That's 
> > why we need the limit switches funtional.
> >
> > This will NOT prevent the installation of the new motor or the 
new conduit 
> > and wiring to the motor. A couple of us can finish the control 
modification 
> > and install it without a major work party and scaffolding. The 
control will 
> > be fixed or replaced BEFORE we turn the staff loose with the 
dome:-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <rhenderson1@...>
> > To: <ASKC@...m>
> > Cc: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Work Party
> >
> >
> >   
> >> David,
> >>
> >> Just curious, but if the shutter motor isn't turned off when 
opening or 
> >> closing the shutter, what happens?  Does the shutter roll off 
the building 
> >> or would the shutter grind to a halt and burn out the motor 
windings?
> >>
> >> Not that I'm planning on doing either, but I'm curious how the 
shutter is 
> >> mounted.
> >>
> >> Rick Henderson
> >>
> >> ---- David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. 
The limit
> >>> switches do not function properly. We can proceed with 
installing the 
> >>> motor
> >>> but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch 
figured 
> >>> out
> >>> or just abandon the existing control box and build a new 
modernized 
> >>> version,
> >>> the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It 
will work 
> >>> but
> >>> must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit 
switches to 
> >>> stop
> >>> the shutter.
> >>>
> >>> Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a 
solution to 
> >>> the
> >>> glitch.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
> >>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
> >>> Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for 
the
> >>>> shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on 
being ready
> >>>> to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I 
know there
> >>>> is some electrical work involving the control box to do. 
Thanks for
> >>>> the help.
> >>>>
> >>>> Darrick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Years back -- 1996?
I bought a floppy that has a Sky and Telescope Cumulative Index for issues 1-89 (Nov 1941-Dec 1995)

It is an old DOS program, of course, and I cannot get the thing to run on XP at all. It ran on Win95, and maybe on Win98 - I don't remember.
I have tried everything I know to either install or extract the files. 

It is possible that the floppy is corrupted. It is also likely that the compressed file (ARC) is an old early version that is no longer supported by anybody. I would really like to get the information out of this in some useable format.

Anybody out there with ideas or that can help if I loan you the floppy or send the files?

Kathy

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Hey David, that's how I voted too! Is it "great minds" or "old folks" 
think alike?

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link Clint. I voted for the interacting galaxies.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clint Mayes" <mayescb@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:25 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Hubble's Next Discovery
> 
> 
> > Just in case anyone is interested.
> > 
> > http://youdecide.hubblesite.org/
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

It totally is worth it!    In fact, we truly need it.   

 

I don't remember seeing a camera set up, but I wasn't really looking for
one.   

 

Good going, David!

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
david9660@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:20 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Fwd: Mayan archeoastronomical research

 


Jackie, you're so right. No surprise.

Did anyone record Bob's presentation? Is this worth consideration?

Diplomacy and maintenance of a sense of fun should have previously read:

Ignore what you can't use. None of us is right, the truth is. Do we help
each other in this discovery?

David Neuenschwander

-----Original Message-----

From: david9660@... <mailto:david9660%40netscape.net> 
To: geilkerc@... <mailto:geilkerc%40william.jewell.edu> 
Sent: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:55 am
Subject: Mayan archeoastronomical research

Hello Dr. Geilker,

I'm a member of the Astronomical Society of Kansas City and have enjoyed
several of your presentations. You spoke at Linda Hall Library in 2003 and
later at ASKC about your research and travels to Mayan Mexico. I don't
remember which celestial object will align with the end of a dark lane in
the Milky Way marking the end/start of the counts. The imagery suggests
birth.

We had another presentation (which I missed) last Saturday at ASKC with more
mystical content. Quite an industry has built up around this notion of
apocalypse. My internet searches haven't provided any mention of this dark
lane alignment. Could you please again share this part of your study?

You are well appreciated at ASKC. Please consider speaking to us again if
circumstances allow.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

11845 NE 201 Rd.

Deepwater, MO 64740

816.519.6288

-----Original Message-----

From: Geilker, Charles <geilkerc@...
<mailto:geilkerc%40william.jewell.edu> >

To: david9660@... <mailto:david9660%40netscape.net> 

Sent: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 1:16 pm

Subject: RE: Mayan archeoastronomical research

Dear David,

??????? Thanks
for your email.? I also missed the ASKC meeting Saturday night, though
I went the first time it was scheduled and the presenter couldn't make
it because of family obligations.? I wonder if the ASKC guys routinely
video tape the presentations -- this one in particular?? If anybody
did, maybe we could borrow the tape and view it together sometime at
your convenience.? Would you be willing to inquire about this?

As to the object which
enters the Dark Rift of the Milky Way, I believe it's the sun; and the
Maya considered that location to be the womb of the universe, so there
was a definite connection with birth.

Thanks for the kind
words.? I always enjoy attending the meetings and visiting with the
members, but it's getting more difficult to get up the energy to drive
to KC solo and get back late at night.

??????? C. D. Geilker

??????? 

WJC Physics

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Yes, I am.   Consider it done!   Thanks, Lief!

(at least I haven't noticed any other responses in my quick scan down the
messages..)  J

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leif
Bahl
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:14 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement

 

Jackie,

Are you still looking to trade? I need to trade with someone to cover my
night with Team #1 on 9/5.

Leif

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Jackie Beucher <m31@...
<mailto:m31%40everestkc.net> > wrote:

> And.. I'm on Team Three and will be gone on July 25th. Can anyone trade
> me
> their night? Dan Johnson is doing the program the 25th.
>
> Jackie B.
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> gdj561956
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement
>
>
> I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12.
> I have a possible conflict.
> Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
> Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
> Dan Johnson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>

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Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
functioning fine.   The problem was with the control system and having
the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
control box.

But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, and
have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
switches would be a reasonable thing to do?

My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-case?

Call my cell phone 913-481-7325

Jason.



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> All sounds good.  I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if it 
> turns out that they are needed.
> 
> Jay
> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
> mobile 913 219 0132
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Flight? GO!
> > Communications? GO!
> > Life Support? GO!
> > Guidance? GO!
> > 
> > Houston, we have a go!
> > 
> > Darrick, get 'em lined up.
> > 
> > Roger just left, and provided a valuable resource to bounce a 
> couple 
> > thoughts and ideas against. We have everything wired in the 
> control box, 
> > and need only to connect the limit-switch wires. Have sucessfully 
> tested 
> > all combinations of the motor operation and limit switch 
> positions, and 
> > we are good to go. Wires to the motor are already connected inside 
> teh 
> > control box, and will need only to be pushed into the flex conduit 
> once 
> > it is cut to the correct length and then attached at the motor end.
> > 
> > I'll be at Powell on Saturday at 0800, who's joining me? WOOO HOOO!
> > 
> > Jason.
> > 
> > 
> > David Young wrote:
> > > In the closing action it would impact the lower sliding shutters 
> and likely 
> > > jump the sprocket in the chain lifting the upper shutter in the 
> process and 
> > > making a extremely loud racket signaling the operator to unplug 
> the control 
> > > or rotate the drum swith to the off position. In the opening 
> sequence there 
> > > would be a similar result except the shutter would jam in the 
> open position 
> > > when it jumped the track. There is a stop bracket on the back 
> side of the 
> > > dome that prevents the shutter from leaving the building. It 
> would not be 
> > > foolproof and would require an operator to pay attention and 
> manually put 
> > > the drum switch to the neutral position before any of this 
> happened. That's 
> > > why we need the limit switches funtional.
> > >
> > > This will NOT prevent the installation of the new motor or the 
> new conduit 
> > > and wiring to the motor. A couple of us can finish the control 
> modification 
> > > and install it without a major work party and scaffolding. The 
> control will 
> > > be fixed or replaced BEFORE we turn the staff loose with the 
> dome:-)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: <rhenderson1@>
> > > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Cc: "David Young" <dyoung8@>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Work Party
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >> David,
> > >>
> > >> Just curious, but if the shutter motor isn't turned off when 
> opening or 
> > >> closing the shutter, what happens?  Does the shutter roll off 
> the building 
> > >> or would the shutter grind to a halt and burn out the motor 
> windings?
> > >>
> > >> Not that I'm planning on doing either, but I'm curious how the 
> shutter is 
> > >> mounted.
> > >>
> > >> Rick Henderson
> > >>
> > >> ---- David Young <dyoung8@> wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> Houston we have a problem. There's a glitch in the circuit. 
> The limit
> > >>> switches do not function properly. We can proceed with 
> installing the 
> > >>> motor
> > >>> but the controls will not be complete. Until we get the glitch 
> figured 
> > >>> out
> > >>> or just abandon the existing control box and build a new 
> modernized 
> > >>> version,
> > >>> the shutter will have to be carefully controlled manually. It 
> will work 
> > >>> but
> > >>> must be manually shut off instead of relying on the limit 
> switches to 
> > >>> stop
> > >>> the shutter.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jason is going to spend some time today trying to work out a 
> solution to 
> > >>> the
> > >>> glitch.
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>> From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@>
> > >>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:56 AM
> > >>> Subject: [ASKC] Work Party
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>       
> > >>>> This saturday, the 31st, we will be installing the motor for 
> the
> > >>>> shutter. I have to get the scaffolding at 8am so figure on 
> being ready
> > >>>> to go by 9am. If you arrive early, go ahead and open up. I 
> know there
> > >>>> is some electrical work involving the control box to do. 
> Thanks for
> > >>>> the help.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Darrick
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>         
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>     
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a 
rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th 
(just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to 
Jason.  I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this 
event.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
> functioning fine.   The problem was with the control system and 
having
> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
> control box.
> 
> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, 
and
> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
> 
> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
case?
> 
> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
> 
> Jason.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > All sounds good.  I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
> > switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if 
it 
> > turns out that they are needed.
> > 
> > Jay
> > jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
> > mobile 913 219 0132
> > 

Great!  Thanks,
Leif



On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:

>   Yes, I am. Consider it done! Thanks, Lief!
>
> (at least I haven't noticed any other responses in my quick scan down the
> messages..) J
>
> Jackie
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Leif
> Bahl
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:14 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement
>
> Jackie,
>
> Are you still looking to trade? I need to trade with someone to cover my
> night with Team #1 on 9/5.
>
> Leif
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Jackie Beucher <m31@...<m31%40everestkc.net>
> <mailto:m31%40everestkc.net <m31%2540everestkc.net>> > wrote:
>
> > And.. I'm on Team Three and will be gone on July 25th. Can anyone trade
> > me
> > their night? Dan Johnson is doing the program the 25th.
> >
> > Jackie B.
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> ASKC%40yahoogroups.com <ASKC%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> ASKC%40yahoogroups.com <ASKC%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > gdj561956
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:45 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> ASKC%40yahoogroups.com <ASKC%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> <ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [ASKC] Powell Observatory - 9/12 replacement
> >
> >
> > I'm on Team 3 and supposed to work at Powell Sat, 9/12.
> > I have a possible conflict.
> > Anyone willing to exchange their team night with mine?
> > Best nights for me to work are Sats,8/1, 8/8 & 10/5.
> > Dan Johnson
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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Kathy,

I'll gladly give it a try. I run Win98SE on both my
desktop and laptop systems; they can both run most
old DOS programs. If not, I have an old laptop that
I bought from Gil that (I think) has Win 3.11 & DOS
6.22 on it, and Joyce has one with Win95. Can you
zip the files & send them as an e-mail attachment,
or can your machine not read them at all?

John


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> Years back -- 1996?
> I bought a floppy that has a Sky and Telescope
> Cumulative Index for issues 1-89 (Nov 1941-Dec 1995)
> 
> It is an old DOS program, of course, and I cannot
> get the thing to run on XP at all. It ran on Win95,
> and maybe on Win98 - I don't remember.
> I have tried everything I know to either install or
> extract the files. 
> 
> It is possible that the floppy is corrupted. It is
> also likely that the compressed file (ARC) is an old
> early version that is no longer supported by anybody.
> I would really like to get the information out of this
> in some useable format.
> 
> Anybody out there with ideas or that can help if I
> loan you the floppy or send the files?
> 
> Kathy

Seems to be much interest in this little project.

I see that Darrick, Rick Henderson, and I will be at Powell Saturday 
morning to install the new motor and the control box. Who else is coming 
on down for the frivolities?

I'm meeting Jay to pick up his new limit switches "just in case".

One thing I ran out of time to fix was the "sounder" -- the noise maker 
for whenever the cord is plugged in.

I'm working on plans to build a brand-spanking-new controller, hopefully 
I can get a contact at a supply house to donate the 
electrical/electronic materials.

Jason.

Jay Manifold wrote:
> FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a 
> rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th 
> (just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to 
> Jason.  I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this 
> event.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
>> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
>> functioning fine.   The problem was with the control system and 
>>     
> having
>   
>> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
>> control box.
>>
>> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, 
>>     
> and
>   
>> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
>> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
>>
>> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
>> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
>>     
> case?
>   
>> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
>>
>> Jason.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
>>     
>>> All sounds good.  I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
>>> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if 
>>>       
> it 
>   
>>> turns out that they are needed.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
>>> mobile 913 219 0132
>>>
>>>       
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

Just got back from the airport. What time are guys going to be at Powell. I 
need to pick up a freezer tomorrow at I-29 and 64th street. I'm thinking of 
Powell first then the freezer. I think Joe has plenty of people at UMKC.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason" <bmwjason@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Work Party


> Seems to be much interest in this little project.
>
> I see that Darrick, Rick Henderson, and I will be at Powell Saturday
> morning to install the new motor and the control box. Who else is coming
> on down for the frivolities?
>
> I'm meeting Jay to pick up his new limit switches "just in case".
>
> One thing I ran out of time to fix was the "sounder" -- the noise maker
> for whenever the cord is plugged in.
>
> I'm working on plans to build a brand-spanking-new controller, hopefully
> I can get a contact at a supply house to donate the
> electrical/electronic materials.
>
> Jason.
>
> Jay Manifold wrote:
>> FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a
>> rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th
>> (just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to
>> Jason.  I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this
>> event.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
>>> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
>>> functioning fine.   The problem was with the control system and
>>>
>> having
>>
>>> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
>>> control box.
>>>
>>> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor,
>>>
>> and
>>
>>> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
>>> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
>>>
>>> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
>>> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
>>>
>> case?
>>
>>> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
>>>
>>> Jason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All sounds good.  I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit
>>>> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if
>>>>
>> it
>>
>>>> turns out that they are needed.
>>>>
>>>> Jay
>>>> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
>>>> mobile 913 219 0132
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

�Q. Was the old motor bolted or welded in place?
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Jason <bmwjason@bmwlt.com>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:22:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Work Party


Seems to be much interest in this little project.

I see that Darrick, Rick Henderson, and I will be at Powell Saturday 
morning to install the new motor and the control box. Who else is coming 
on down for the frivolities?

I'm meeting Jay to pick up his new limit switches "just in case".

One thing I ran out of time to fix was the "sounder" -- the noise maker 
for whenever the cord is plugged in.

I'm working on plans to build a brand-spanking- new controller, hopefully 
I can get a contact at a supply house to donate the 
electrical/electron ic materials.

Jason.

Jay Manifold wrote:
> FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a 
> rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th 
> (just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to 
> Jason. I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this 
> event.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@.. .> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
>> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
>> functioning fine. The problem was with the control system and 
>> 
> having
> 
>> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
>> control box.
>>
>> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, 
>> 
> and
> 
>> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
>> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
>>
>> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
>> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
>> 
> case?
> 
>> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
>>
>> Jason.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@ > wrote:
>> 
>>> All sounds good. I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
>>> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if 
>>> 
> it 
> 
>>> turns out that they are needed.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
>>> mobile 913 219 0132
>>>
>>> 
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> 

 

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bolted

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...> wrote:
>
> �Q. Was the old motor bolted or welded in place?
> �Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
> Randy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Jason <bmwjason@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:22:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Work Party
> 
> 
> Seems to be much interest in this little project.
> 
> I see that Darrick, Rick Henderson, and I will be at Powell Saturday 
> morning to install the new motor and the control box. Who else is
coming 
> on down for the frivolities?
> 
> I'm meeting Jay to pick up his new limit switches "just in case".
> 
> One thing I ran out of time to fix was the "sounder" -- the noise maker 
> for whenever the cord is plugged in.
> 
> I'm working on plans to build a brand-spanking- new controller,
hopefully 
> I can get a contact at a supply house to donate the 
> electrical/electron ic materials.
> 
> Jason.
> 
> Jay Manifold wrote:
> > FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a 
> > rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th 
> > (just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to 
> > Jason. I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this 
> > event.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@ .> wrote:
> > 
> >> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
> >> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
> >> functioning fine. The problem was with the control system and 
> >> 
> > having
> > 
> >> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
> >> control box.
> >>
> >> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, 
> >> 
> > and
> > 
> >> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
> >> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
> >>
> >> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
> >> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
> >> 
> > case?
> > 
> >> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
> >>
> >> Jason.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@ > wrote:
> >> 
> >>> All sounds good. I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
> >>> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if 
> >>> 
> > it 
> > 
> >>> turns out that they are needed.
> >>>
> >>> Jay
> >>> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
> >>> mobile 913 219 0132
> >>>
> >>> 
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Randy,

The motor was bolted to the gearbox, which in turn was bolted to the 
dome, rather nefariously, because try as they might, Joe and Darrick and 
David were unable to get that sucker off the dome. So the motor came off 
the gearbox.

Jason.

RANDY THOMPSON wrote:
>  Q. Was the old motor bolted or welded in place?
>  Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
> Randy 
>
>
>
>
> <<<Snippage>>>

That must have made things a lot easier.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Darrick <earthdude123@yahoo.com>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:52:01 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Work Party


bolted

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@ ...> wrote:
>
> �Q. Was the old motor bolted or welded in place?
> �Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
> Randy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Jason <bmwjason@.. .>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:22:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Work Party
> 
> 
> Seems to be much interest in this little project.
> 
> I see that Darrick, Rick Henderson, and I will be at Powell Saturday 
> morning to install the new motor and the control box. Who else is
coming 
> on down for the frivolities?
> 
> I'm meeting Jay to pick up his new limit switches "just in case".
> 
> One thing I ran out of time to fix was the "sounder" -- the noise maker 
> for whenever the cord is plugged in.
> 
> I'm working on plans to build a brand-spanking- new controller,
hopefully 
> I can get a contact at a supply house to donate the 
> electrical/electron ic materials.
> 
> Jason.
> 
> Jay Manifold wrote:
> > FYI to those following this with bated breath ... we have arranged a 
> > rendezvous at 7:30 AM tomorrow at the Starbucks at 10152 W 119th 
> > (just west of US-69) at which I will hand off the limit switches to 
> > Jason. I'm not sure I'll devote an entire Flickr photoset to this 
> > event.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "bmwjason100" <bmwjason@ .> wrote:
> > 
> >> Thanks for the limit switch offer, Jay. I don't think there is
> >> anything wrong with the existing limit switches -- they were
> >> functioning fine. The problem was with the control system and 
> >> 
> > having
> > 
> >> the limit switches have the desired effect on the "New!, Improved!"
> >> control box.
> >>
> >> But, you know, we are replacing the motor and wiring to the motor, 
> >> 
> > and
> > 
> >> have made changes to the control box, maybe renewing the limit
> >> switches would be a reasonable thing to do?
> >>
> >> My office is in Lenexa along I35, and home is in Shawnee, maybe we
> >> could get together this evening and I can get the switches just-in-
> >> 
> > case?
> > 
> >> Call my cell phone 913-481-7325
> >>
> >> Jason.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@ > wrote:
> >> 
> >>> All sounds good. I will be at the UMKC event but now have limit 
> >>> switches in my possession and can arrange to get them to you if 
> >>> 
> > it 
> > 
> >>> turns out that they are needed.
> >>>
> >>> Jay
> >>> jay_manifold at yahoo dot com
> >>> mobile 913 219 0132
> >>>
> >>> 
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------ --------- --------- ------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

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It would seem that we have all unwittingly entered into a heated 
discussion about religion.

Remember the 2 topics people get the most argumentative about:
Religion and politics.

The study of the Stars as an association with ones religion is 
connected with ALL major religions.
Mohamed saw a meteorite fall from the sky.
The Star of Bethlehem
St. Benedict was enlightened by 2nd contact of totality.

The Mayans felt like their study and interpretation of the sky had 
meaning as associated with a higher meaning.
And in that era (all around the world) the practice of associating 
'higher meaning' to celestial bodies and occurrences was universal.

Only after the scientific process and Newton's laws of physics were 
adapted to the study of astronomy did ANY ideology move away from 
Astrology being faith-based.  Before that, it was hard mathematical 
science calculating astrometry and orbital mechanics, in hopes of 
understanding.

So, arguing that the Mayan way of studying the sky was hocus pocus 
might be equated to discounting other biblical signs in many 
peoples's very mainstream faiths.

Primitive astrology was an attempt by man to understand his place in 
the universe and things he didn't understand, using the most advanced 
tools he had at his disposal at the time.  (including current trends 
and sciences he had access to)  We are no different than these 
Astrologers.  Only our tools have changed.





Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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David I would love to go and help with the School nights (even go to the one on the 29th now past tense) however I have to work till after six and by the time I get cleaned up and get there It would be after eight. Timing is everything! Just screw with the timing on your car and see what I mean. Sorry Paul J Macek

We'd done something similar before:

 

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From: td@... [mailto:td@...] 
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:57 PM
To: antares@...
Subject: Methane on Mars: Geology or Biology?

 

Hello,

The discovery of seasonal methane located in some areas of Mars has recently
been announced.  To celebrate this important discovery, the authors of
"Imminent Discovery" are giving away some books by random drawing (void
where prohibited by law) to amateur astronomers and others who would like to
comment on this.  Do you think it's geology or biology?  Do you think it's a
sign of life on Mars?  If interested, go to:

http://blog.gomarsgo.com/

and post a comment!  That's all.  

Thanks!

Tom Dehel

P.S. giveaway books include one used copy of "MARS, The Photographic Story",
the 1962 book by dedicated Mars astronomer Earl Slipher.  It is valued at
approximately $100.  



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Huge thanks to the following - Jason and Mathew Forst, Charles
Kennedy, John Benze, Steve King, David Young, and Rick Henderson. They
sacrificed what may have been the best saturday of the winter. 

 It was a day of grand expectations and lofty dreams. I arrived at
8:40 with the understanding that an undisclosed key holder had arrived
earlier to open it up. Wrong, they shall remain nameless to protect
the not so innocent. Once we got in we immediately started setting
things up like scaffolding and a work bench to double check the
electrical components. 

Half the crew did the electrical the others did mechanical by mounting
the motor. Some additions done today-  Installation of conduit that is
water proof for the shudder wires, during down time we also installed
the vinyl trim in the dome. This would be the baseboard. And I have to
say it looks good. 

After installation of the motor and new wiring we dared a test run. It
went up very well!!!!! We decided to try going down...... The good
news is that we were able to put the shudder back on the track and the
shudder doors were not damaged. The bad news is that we are going to
replace the limit switches. Jason has volunteered to build a new motor
control box that will match our new motor. He knows what needs to be
done and is on top of it.  We are hoping to get it in and done next
week. I am very optimistic. Please remember the old system lasted 25v
years and we are wanting to do it again. 

Thanks again guys for all the work.

Until posted otherwise, the dome is still closed. 

Darrick

Remember the 2 topics people get the most argumentative about:
Religion and politics.
�
WHAT ABOUT THE WEATHER HUH!?

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, Jen Winter - ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:

From: Jen Winter - ICSTARS <comments@...>
Subject: [ASKC] Mayan ArcheoAstrology
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 4:38 PM

It would seem that we have all unwittingly entered into a heated 
discussion about religion.

Remember the 2 topics people get the most argumentative about:
Religion and politics.

The study of the Stars as an association with ones religion is 
connected with ALL major religions.
Mohamed saw a meteorite fall from the sky.
The Star of Bethlehem
St. Benedict was enlightened by 2nd contact of totality.

The Mayans felt like their study and interpretation of the sky had 
meaning as associated with a higher meaning.
And in that era (all around the world) the practice of associating 
'higher meaning' to celestial bodies and occurrences was universal.

Only after the scientific process and Newton's laws of physics were 
adapted to the study of astronomy did ANY ideology move away from 
Astrology being faith-based.  Before that, it was hard mathematical 
science calculating astrometry and orbital mechanics, in hopes of 
understanding.

So, arguing that the Mayan way of studying the sky was hocus pocus 
might be equated to discounting other biblical signs in many 
peoples's very mainstream faiths.

Primitive astrology was an attempt by man to understand his place in 
the universe and things he didn't understand, using the most advanced 
tools he had at his disposal at the time.  (including current trends 
and sciences he had access to)  We are no different than these 
Astrologers.  Only our tools have changed.





Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Yahoo! Groups Links






      

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Paul-

 

I understand only so well, My truck been in shop for 2 days.  And I was
planning on going to the 29th too, till it went into the shop.

Most of us have to work and the way companies are dropping people lately, no
need to lose a job over a outreach program.

 

Always good to hear from someone who wants to help, even if they can't.

Anyway thanks for the note. 

 

-Dave

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
pmacek@...
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:54 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: David
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Local Elementary School Outreach Feb 5th

 


David I would love to go and help with the School nights (even go to the one
on the 29th now past tense) however I have to work till after six and by the
time I get cleaned up and get there It would be after eight. Timing is
everything! Just screw with the timing on your car and see what I mean.
Sorry Paul J Macek

 



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John
Thanks for your help.
You found a program to unpack that file, and now I can open the files and 
search for stuff in our old magazines.
Great! I disliked not being able to use that index - even if I only want it 
once every few years!

Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Old S&T index - DOS


> Kathy,
>
> I'll gladly give it a try. I run Win98SE on both my
> desktop and laptop systems; they can both run most
> old DOS programs. If not, I have an old laptop that
> I bought from Gil that (I think) has Win 3.11 & DOS
> 6.22 on it, and Joyce has one with Win95. Can you
> zip the files & send them as an e-mail attachment,
> or can your machine not read them at all?
>
> John
>
>
> --- Kathy Machin wrote:
>>
>> Years back -- 1996?
>> I bought a floppy that has a Sky and Telescope
>> Cumulative Index for issues 1-89 (Nov 1941-Dec 1995)
>>
>> It is an old DOS program, of course, and I cannot
>> get the thing to run on XP at all. It ran on Win95,
>> and maybe on Win98 - I don't remember.
>> I have tried everything I know to either install or
>> extract the files.
>>
>> It is possible that the floppy is corrupted. It is
>> also likely that the compressed file (ARC) is an old
>> early version that is no longer supported by anybody.
>> I would really like to get the information out of this
>> in some useable format.
>>
>> Anybody out there with ideas or that can help if I
>> loan you the floppy or send the files?
>>
>> Kathy
> 

Kathy,

You're welcome. Glad I could be of help.
Sometimes it's handy to have a dinosaur
of a computer like mine! :)

John


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
> John
> Thanks for your help.
> You found a program to unpack that file, and now I
> can open the files and search for stuff in our old
> magazines. Great! I disliked not being able to use
> that index - even if I only want it once every few
> years!
> Kathy
> 
> --- John Cravens wrote:
> > Kathy,
> > I'll gladly give it a try. I run Win98SE on both my
> > desktop and laptop systems; they can both run most
> > old DOS programs. If not, I have an old laptop that
> > I bought from Gil that (I think) has Win 3.11 & DOS
> > 6.22 on it, and Joyce has one with Win95. Can you
> > zip the files & send them as an e-mail attachment,
> > or can your machine not read them at all?
> > John
> >
> > --- Kathy Machin wrote:
> >> Years back -- 1996?
> >> I bought a floppy that has a Sky and Telescope
> >> Cumulative Index for issues 1-89 (Nov 1941-Dec 1995)
> >>
> >> It is an old DOS program, of course, and I cannot
> >> get the thing to run on XP at all. It ran on Win95,
> >> and maybe on Win98 - I don't remember.
> >> I have tried everything I know to either install or
> >> extract the files.
> >>
> >> It is possible that the floppy is corrupted. It is
> >> also likely that the compressed file (ARC) is an old
> >> early version that is no longer supported by anybody.
> >> I would really like to get the information out of this
> >> in some useable format.
> >>
> >> Anybody out there with ideas or that can help if I
> >> loan you the floppy or send the files?
> >>
> >> Kathy

Looking for a big dob?  This was listed on the Obsession group yesterday.  Remember that this is a 25-inch at f/5 and WILL require a ladder.  



I'd love to get 5 more inches of aperture, but my 20-inch will keep me busy for the rest of my life and after 8 years, it has not failed me yet! 



...and no, I do not know Chris, and get nothing out of this.  Just thought I'd pass it along. 



-Scott 




>>>>>>>>>> 

I love my Obsession 25, but I am filing bankruptcy and my attorney says 
I can't keep it. 25" F/5, sn#1752, new June 2007. Has Argo Navis / 
servocat, JMI EV-1 motorized focuser, 9x50 finder, shroud, handles, 
counterweight kit, cooling fan, secondary heater and powered ground 
board. Over $16,000 new, asking $12,000. Will consider offers and/or 
trade for 15" to 18" commercial scope with significant cash. I can 
deliver within 250 mile radius of Kentland, Indiana. 



Chris Brownewell 
www.2020telescopes.com 
www.starparty.info 
219-741-2686

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>I'd love to get 5 more inches of aperture, but

Now Scott, Tell us you were not considering getting one of those "O" 
telescopes. Even if it meant another 5"!!!!

Mike Myer 

The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.

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received this email from a kindergarten teacher at
> Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City.  I don't know whether anyone would be
> available or interested in handling this.
>
>
>
> I am a kindergarten teacher at Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City.  We are
> near Worlds of Fun.  We are studying objects in the sky next month
> (February) and wondered if your group has a large telescope that can come 
> to
>
> our school for the students to see the stars, the moon, and some closer
> planets.  Please let me know and if there is a cost involved.
>
> Thank you so much for your time and quick response.
>
> Rhonda Beckett
>
>
> Rhonda Beckett
> Kindergarten Teacher
> Parent Involvement Coordinator
> Math Leadership Team
> Go Green Committee
> Wellness Committee
> Gracemor Elementary
> North Kansas City Schools
>
> "It is not how smart we are, but how we are smart" - Howard Gardner
>
>
>
>
> 

I'll help, but what day are they looking at?

 

And since they are willing to pay..  How much do we ask?

 

Dave Fox

 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:00 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Fw: Star Party at our School

 

received this email from a kindergarten teacher at
> Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City. I don't know whether anyone would be
> available or interested in handling this.
>
>
>
> I am a kindergarten teacher at Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City. We are
> near Worlds of Fun. We are studying objects in the sky next month
> (February) and wondered if your group has a large telescope that can come 
> to
>
> our school for the students to see the stars, the moon, and some closer
> planets. Please let me know and if there is a cost involved.
>
> Thank you so much for your time and quick response.
>
> Rhonda Beckett
>
>
> Rhonda Beckett
> Kindergarten Teacher
> Parent Involvement Coordinator
> Math Leadership Team
> Go Green Committee
> Wellness Committee
> Gracemor Elementary
> North Kansas City Schools
>
> "It is not how smart we are, but how we are smart" - Howard Gardner
>
>
>
>
> 

 



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I don't think so.   I don't know how you could beat a 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike & Kim Myer" <mdmyer@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:36:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 25" F/5 for Sale or trade 






>I'd love to get 5 more inches of aperture, but 

Now Scott, Tell us you were not considering getting one of those "O" 
telescopes. Even if it meant another 5"!!!! 

Mike Myer 



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didn't mean to send that already.............. 



What I was going to say is that I don't know how you could beat a Starmaster telescope! 






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "s kranz1" <s.kranz1@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 8:21:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 25" F/5 for Sale or trade 


I don't think so.   I don't know how you could beat a 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike & Kim Myer" <mdmyer@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:36:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 25" F/5 for Sale or trade 






>I'd love to get 5 more inches of aperture, but 

Now Scott, Tell us you were not considering getting one of those "O" 
telescopes. Even if it meant another 5"!!!! 

Mike Myer 



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Sorry to bother but did anyone happen to pick up some wool mittens at
the work party 2 weeks ago at Powell? These are the fingerless type
with a flip over end. I really loved those glove/mittens. Let me know. 
Darrick

No, but I left my brown cordaroy shirt down there.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darrick" <earthdude123@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:42 PM
Subject: [ASKC] OT: lost Items


> Sorry to bother but did anyone happen to pick up some wool mittens at
> the work party 2 weeks ago at Powell? These are the fingerless type
> with a flip over end. I really loved those glove/mittens. Let me know. 
> Darrick
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

I might be available - when?.......
Mike Sterling
 
 
In a message dated 2/1/2009 8:10:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  dfox@ve
ntureindustrial.com writes:

 
 
 
I'll help, but what day are they looking at?

And since they are  willing to pay.. How much do we ask?

Dave Fox

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From: _ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)  
[mailto:_ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf  Of David
Young
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:00 PM
To: _ASKC@..._ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com) 
Subject:  [ASKC] Fw: Star Party at our School

received this email from a  kindergarten teacher at
> Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City. I don't  know whether anyone would be
> available or interested in handling  this.
>
>
>
> I am a kindergarten teacher at Gracemor  Elementary in Kansas City. We are
> near Worlds of Fun. We are studying  objects in the sky next month
> (February) and wondered if your group  has a large telescope that can come 
> to
>
> our school for  the students to see the stars, the moon, and some closer
> planets.  Please let me know and if there is a cost involved.
>
> Thank you  so much for your time and quick response.
>
> Rhonda  Beckett
>
>
> Rhonda Beckett
> Kindergarten  Teacher
> Parent Involvement Coordinator
> Math Leadership  Team
> Go Green Committee
> Wellness Committee
> Gracemor  Elementary
> North Kansas City Schools
>
> "It is not how  smart we are, but how we are smart" - Howard  Gardner
>
>
>
>
> 

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Although at 8 inches aperture, my scope is not
considered very large these days, I am usually
available if conditions permit. ;)

If they want to see the Moon and a planet, they
should schedule very early in the month, or very
late...the middle 2 weeks are post-full moon, and
Venus is the only (bright) thing to see until the
moon comes up. Saturn won't rise till 8pm, and may
not reach a viewable altitude for at least an hour
after it does.

(There *will* be a nice close conjunction of the
crescent Moon and Venus on the 27th, though...)

-JC


--- David Young wrote:
>
> received this email from a kindergarten teacher at
> Gracemor Elementary in Kansas City.  I don't know
> whether anyone would be available or interested in
> handling this.
> > 
> > I am a kindergarten teacher at Gracemor Elementary
> > in Kansas City.  We are near Worlds of Fun.  We are
> > studying objects in the sky next month (February)
> > and wondered if your group has a large telescope
> > that can come to our school for the students to see
> > the stars, the moon, and some closer planets...
> > Rhonda Beckett

David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version

Gil Machin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
Subject: [ASKC] cm


> The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the 
> email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Good morning Gil.  I thought I was the only fool up at this time.  I'm 
trying to get some work done.

Joe

type your email address into the body of a return message so I can cut and 
paste it into the address book.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Machin" <gmachin@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm


> David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version
>
> Gil Machin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] cm
>
>
>> The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the
>> email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

It was sent to gmachin@...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Machin" <gmachin@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm


> David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version
> 
> Gil Machin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] cm
> 
> 
>> The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the 
>> email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

David-
 
Nor did I get a copy....
 
can you change my email to dfox@...?
 
-Dave

David M. Fox


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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:11 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm



It was sent to gmachin@.... <mailto:gmachin%40kc.rr.com> com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G. Machin" <gmachin@.... <mailto:gmachin%40kc.rr.com> com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm

> David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version
> 
> Gil Machin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@.... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com> com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] cm
> 
> 
>> The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the 
>> email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>


 


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David-
I found it..  Never mind.
-Dave

 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:47 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] cm



David-

Nor did I get a copy....

can you change my email to dfox@ventureindustr
<mailto:dfox%40ventureindustrial.com> ial.com?

-Dave

David M. Fox

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of
David
Young
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:11 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm

It was sent to gmachin@... <mailto:gmachin%40kc.rr> .
<mailto:gmachin%40kc.rr.com> com

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From: "G. Machin" <gmachin@... <mailto:gmachin%40kc.rr> .
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To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm

> David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version
> 
> Gil Machin
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@... <mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr> .
<mailto:dyoung8%40kc.rr.com> com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] cm
> 
> 
>> The February 2009 issue has been emailed to those who signed up for the 
>> email version. It has also been uploaded to the file area on yahoo.
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gmachin@...

Here it is. There was another message with the same email address. there was 
no indaction of a attachment

Gil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm


> type your email address into the body of a return message so I can cut and
> paste it into the address book.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G. Machin" <gmachin@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm
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>> David I did't get the Feb. CM. I want the hi rez version
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>> Gil Machin
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:27 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] cm
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The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
Karin Dembinski and put you on the list.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm


> How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
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Yeah I rejoined at the last meeting, paid the dues then as well.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Young 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm


  The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
  directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
  Karin Dembinski and put you on the list.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...>
  To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm

  > How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
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hmmmmmm  but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list?     Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 



just wondering........ 



-scott 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:43:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 






The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
Karin Dembinski and put you on the list. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" < keithkc@kc.rr.com > 
To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

> How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
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 Keith,

Thank the vagaries of circumstance that you were able to reconnect!

I'm for extravagant welcome. Your mileage...

David Neuenschwander


 
-----Original Message-----
From: s.kranz1@...
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm






















    

            




hmmmmmm? but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list????? Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 



just wondering........ 



-scott 






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Okay, it is time for me play my favorite character....Devil's Advocate.  
I feel the horns coming out.

I seriously doubt that any member of this club joined solely on the fact 
that one of it's benefits is the Cosmic Messenger.  Marcia and I seem to 
pull teeth trying to get members to submit any, any tidbit of an article 
for our members enjoyment and enlightenment. Many clubs make their 
monthly issue available on the net.  Wow, what an outgoing and friendly 
gesture.  You want a possible new member to learn more about you, let 
them read a newsletter.  We should, at a minimum, post the previous 
issue for the public. 

Let me be clear about my personal feeling as to the benefit of being a 
member of the ASKC.  It is a place that my wife and I  may feel 
befriended by those who have the same interest and care to share this 
interest with those who may not know as much and help us grow as amateur 
astronomers and  champions of the night sky.


 Have you ever thought how wonderful it would be if she, or any future 
editor, had more material than needed for one issue.  While, an editor 
could be working on future issues and have it being mailed prior to the 
beginning of each month.  Shall we just start mailing the last week of 
each month with what ever content we have.  This is your newsletter.  
How many of you go to a variety of star parties, were is your column on 
this?  Okie-Tex, Texas, Adirondack Astronomical Retreat , Rocky Mountain 
Star Stare, Nebraska Star Party.  What about those observatories, 
planetariums and science centers visited in the past year or two?

Joe

The St. Clair County Library in Osceola has a student reading group on Tuesdays. Their current subject is astronomy and I offered an observing session in two weeks on Feb. 17 from 7 'til 8 pm or whenever parents drag them away. If anyone feels like driving just over an hour and a half for a casual night of in-town tutoring you'd be more than welcome.

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander


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Many folks who've been to SSSP remember Manuel de la Torre.   He's 
currently in charge of an exhibit for the 40th anniversary of the 
moon landing and the IYA2009.   Naturally, he has no budget.   I am 
sending down a care package (actually a couple of care packages) with 
moon schwag for his exhibit.   I am sending a sneeze slice of lunar 
meteorite and some Apollo rocket and lander models.  We have some 
moon maps and regalith in a jar.   We're really missing lunar / moon 
landing Apollo mission kind of posters and schwag.   If anyone wants 
to help, please contact me.

He is also trying to raise money to make his postcard set again.  I 
would like to give a comment about why we are trying to help him 
raise the funds.  Sure, once a year, he may sell a couple postcards 
to people who come visit, but that's not what he does with the 
postcard.  90% of the use for it is bringing something pocket-sized 
out to school children to teach the astronomy with a classroom in his 
breast pocket.
http://www.sssp.org/Sssp2005/Island/images/k%20sssp2005%20island%20trip%2016v.jpg 
He can leave them with children who clutch them like an 8 year-old 
with a baseball card - or with teachers or visitors.  I know many 
folks reading this have some of his postcards.    He's about 
out.  They were sponsored last time with the 1996 eclipse.  Without 
new sponsorship, there will be no more.  We're trying to raise some 
scratch for him.

The Moon exhibit has a deadline, though.  I'm sending stuff starting 
this week.  We want the exhibit to be completed no later than May 1.

You know where to find me.  I can give Manuel's address if anyone 
prefers to mail a poster or DVD strait to him.

Clear skies,
jen
((all donations tax deductible through StarGarden Foundation))

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Hi Folks, 

These questions about the membership requirement and electronic CM distribution raises a silly question in my mind. 

I understand the natural reaction to "keeping the CM for members only". But, my question is ....WHY? 

Are we posting state secrets in the CM? Does anyone seriously think any person would join the ASKC solely to receive the newsletter? 

A number of very highly regarded scientific journals are now published on-line and free to anyone who is interested or who might benefit from that information.

Would it be MORE to our advantage to make the electronic CM freely available to anyone who has the curiosity to (say...) go to our website and link to it? The quality of the CM speaks mountains for the quality of the ASKC organization. Would it be good advertising? 

Perhaps I am missing something. Or, are we overlooking an opportunity?

Dave H. 

  

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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

>  Many clubs make their
> monthly issue available on the net.  Wow, what an outgoing and friendly
> gesture.  You want a possible new member to learn more about you, let
> them read a newsletter.  We should, at a minimum, post the previous
> issue for the public.
>

 I honestly can't understand why we don't post *every* issue of the CM on
the club's public website and just forget about printing and mailing at
all.  Eliminate the printing and postage expense and put that money
toward programs to increase membership, conduct additional public outreach
activities and educational materials or other improvements at Powell and/or
DSS.

"Some members don't have internet access" isn't an valid excuse in the 21st
century - my 78 year old in-laws have a computer; my 75 year old dad has
one; I've got 7 or 8 of them.

I spend maybe 2 minutes reading the CM each month. It's not a primary
motivator to keep me paying my annual membership dues.

Just put it on the website and be done with it.

-Marty


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We put it to a vote a few years ago. Maybe its time to revisit these topics. 
I personally don't see why the newsletter isn't made public. We might rarely 
need to edit out some topics or issues that we didn't necessarily want 
everyone to see but that would be rare.

Going to all electronic was voted down with vigor a few years ago. I even 
caught a little flack over sending out the electronic version. My defense 
was that even though eliminating the paper version and going all electronic 
only had been voted down, there was nothing wrong with members deciding on 
their own that they could do without the paper version and take the 
electronic only. It saves the club over $1000.00 a year to have me send the 
electronic version.

There are in fact quite a few members who do not use computers at all.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Tippin" <martyt@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Rhetoric


> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> 
> wrote:
>
>>  Many clubs make their
>> monthly issue available on the net.  Wow, what an outgoing and friendly
>> gesture.  You want a possible new member to learn more about you, let
>> them read a newsletter.  We should, at a minimum, post the previous
>> issue for the public.
>>
>
> I honestly can't understand why we don't post *every* issue of the CM on
> the club's public website and just forget about printing and mailing at
> all.  Eliminate the printing and postage expense and put that money
> toward programs to increase membership, conduct additional public outreach
> activities and educational materials or other improvements at Powell 
> and/or
> DSS.
>
> "Some members don't have internet access" isn't an valid excuse in the 
> 21st
> century - my 78 year old in-laws have a computer; my 75 year old dad has
> one; I've got 7 or 8 of them.
>
> I spend maybe 2 minutes reading the CM each month. It's not a primary
> motivator to keep me paying my annual membership dues.
>
> Just put it on the website and be done with it.
>
> -Marty
>
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:

> Going to all electronic was voted down with vigor a few years ago. I even
> caught a little flack over sending out the electronic version. My defense
> was that even though eliminating the paper version and going all electronic
> only had been voted down, there was nothing wrong with members deciding on
> their own that they could do without the paper version and take the
> electronic only. It saves the club over $1000.00 a year to have me send the
> electronic version.


I'm curious: What's the current cost for printing and mailing a year's worth
of CM issues to a single member?


How about if we ask everyone to "opt in" for the printed version, instead of
an "opt out" of the printed version. If you don't "opt in", you don't get a
printed CM.

But first, let's get the CM on the website each and every month, then post a
notice in one or two issues:

"The CM is available online and we'd rather not print any more than we have
to. If you want to continue receiving the printed CM, let us know.
Otherwise, this is the last printed issue you will receive."

I predict that the overwhelming majority of recipients will not choose the
printed version, especially if they're made aware of the cost to the club
for printing and mailing the issues to them.

-Marty

 BTW - I think I'm still getting the paper version; you can move me to
"Electronic Only" delivery of the CM if you'd like...


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A few years back (3-4?) we put an e-mail or on-line newsletter only (no print version) to a vote of the entire membership. The idea was voted down. 

I personally do not like the idea that having a computer and internet connection is a requirement to receive any communication from the ASKC. This is a real financial cost that not all our members may be able to afford. So, I think a mailed newsletter in some form is still needed. I can see the day coming when we go all on-line. I just do not think it is time quite yet. Of course, if the general membership votes to go that way, we will

As far as having an issue on line,  or several issues, I think it would be doable, and likely a very positive feature. There have been times in the past that articles or issues in the newsletter would have been bad PR. If that is avoided, and I think it very possible to continue to avoid such concerns, I would be in favor of it.

I could see having 2-3 issues posted. Post the current month about a week or so after it is sent out, drop the one for two or three months back. Something like that. Members could check the web site for meeting info as well as getting others interested in the ASKC. 

This also would serve as a transition into an all electronic, no paper newsletter. 

That's my two cents!

Kathy

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Hey, Keith where you been?  Welcome home.

George Allen



>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s.kranz1@...
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 9:31 am
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm
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I think that some members may object to the newsletter going online 
because it is a benefit of membership.  The membership fee includes 
getting this newsletter.  So if a member stops getting the newsletter 
because it's online - and anyone who isn't a member can get it for no 
cost, the paying member (who may not get to come and participate in 
meetings often) may feel his membership is devalued.

I am rather lucky.  I am able to get out and attend meetings when I 
choose and go to events, but let's say you're a student who has no 
car.  The newsletter is a very big part of his/her membership, and 
the dues steeper on a student's budget.  The 'starving student' could 
feel this pain more than we do.

just a different point of view.

jen

At 01:20 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>These questions about the membership requirement and electronic CM 
>distribution raises a silly question in my mind.
>
>I understand the natural reaction to "keeping the CM for members 
>only". But, my question is ....WHY?
>
>Are we posting state secrets in the CM? Does anyone seriously think 
>any person would join the ASKC solely to receive the newsletter?
>
>A number of very highly regarded scientific journals are now 
>published on-line and free to anyone who is interested or who might 
>benefit from that information.
>
>Would it be MORE to our advantage to make the electronic CM freely 
>available to anyone who has the curiosity to (say...) go to our 
>website and link to it? The quality of the CM speaks mountains for 
>the quality of the ASKC organization. Would it be good advertising?
>
>Perhaps I am missing something. Or, are we overlooking an opportunity?
>
>Dave H.
>
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>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Darrick, Joe, David: 



Is the public night schedule as listed in the document "powell schedules 09 9703 version.xls" in the yahoo group files section "etched in stone"?  Or are there some changes still expected?  When it is solid, I'll start printing some flyers out. 



I never heard: Did the by-law changes all pass at the last meeting?   Has someone updated a formal copy of the by-laws document?  And could they upload it to the " ASKC ByLaws_Member Dir " folder? 



-scott

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Hi George, Thanks, it is good to be home. I have missed everyone and I am glad to be back. How are you doing?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: George Allen 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC]


  Hey, Keith where you been? Welcome home.

  George Allen

  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: s.kranz1@...
  > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
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lol Thanks David. It was fun at the last meeting. I enjoyed the astro 101 class and the main speaker. Some of what he had to say was interesting  and I also enjoy hearing stuff from ancient civilizations :)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: david9660@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm



  Keith,

  Thank the vagaries of circumstance that you were able to reconnect!

  I'm for extravagant welcome. Your mileage...

  David Neuenschwander

  -----Original Message-----
  From: s.kranz1@...
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 9:31 am
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm

  hmmmmmm? but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list????? Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 

  just wondering........ 

  -scott 

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The rub is that in order to get the bulk rate we must mail a certain number 
of copies. We are close to that minimum now. If we drastically cut the 
number of copies we might get down far enough that the mailing and printing 
cost would yield a cost savings. As I recall each issue costs about $1.50 to 
print and mail.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marty Tippin" <martyt@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Rhetoric


> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, David Young <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
>> Going to all electronic was voted down with vigor a few years ago. I even
>> caught a little flack over sending out the electronic version. My defense
>> was that even though eliminating the paper version and going all 
>> electronic
>> only had been voted down, there was nothing wrong with members deciding 
>> on
>> their own that they could do without the paper version and take the
>> electronic only. It saves the club over $1000.00 a year to have me send 
>> the
>> electronic version.
>
>
> I'm curious: What's the current cost for printing and mailing a year's 
> worth
> of CM issues to a single member?
>
>
> How about if we ask everyone to "opt in" for the printed version, instead 
> of
> an "opt out" of the printed version. If you don't "opt in", you don't get 
> a
> printed CM.
>
> But first, let's get the CM on the website each and every month, then post 
> a
> notice in one or two issues:
>
> "The CM is available online and we'd rather not print any more than we 
> have
> to. If you want to continue receiving the printed CM, let us know.
> Otherwise, this is the last printed issue you will receive."
>
> I predict that the overwhelming majority of recipients will not choose the
> printed version, especially if they're made aware of the cost to the club
> for printing and mailing the issues to them.
>
> -Marty
>
> BTW - I think I'm still getting the paper version; you can move me to
> "Electronic Only" delivery of the CM if you'd like...
>
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Just to make sure there is no confusion, I did rejoin at the last meeting. I suspect I will be getting my membership card soon :)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: s.kranz1@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm




  hmmmmmm  but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list?     Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 

  just wondering........ 

  -scott 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:43:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
  directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
  Karin Dembinski and put you on the list. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Keith Green" < keithkc@... > 
  To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  > How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
  > keithkc@... 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
  > 
  > 
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  > 
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Good to have you back again, Keith!  Now we need to get you out to the Dark Sky Site! 



You still in Belton? 



-Scott 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:17:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 






Just to make sure there is no confusion, I did rejoin at the last meeting. I suspect I will be getting my membership card soon :) 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: s.kranz1@... 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 AM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

hmmmmmm but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list? Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 

just wondering........ 

-scott 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" < dyoung8@... > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:43:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
Karin Dembinski and put you on the list. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Green" < keithkc@... > 
To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

> How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
> keithkc@... 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Thanks Scott, Yeah, I haven't been to the Dark Sky site yet and can't wait to go. I plan on making it to the messier marathon to see I can still find them all :) Yep, still in Belton, so anytime you are doing to the Dark Site and don't mind company, let me know!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: s.kranz1@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm




  Good to have you back again, Keith!  Now we need to get you out to the Dark Sky Site! 

  You still in Belton? 

  -Scott 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Keith Green" <keithkc@...> 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:17:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  Just to make sure there is no confusion, I did rejoin at the last meeting. I suspect I will be getting my membership card soon :) 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: s.kranz1@... 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:31 AM 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  hmmmmmm but if he wasn't a member, how would be be able to post on this list? Does Gina ever delete out those have had their membership lapse? 

  just wondering........ 

  -scott 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "David Young" < dyoung8@... > 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 8:43:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  The Cosmic Messenger is for members only. I do not see you in the membership 
  directory. Did you recently rejoin? If so I can get a verification from 
  Karin Dembinski and put you on the list. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Keith Green" < keithkc@... > 
  To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:24 PM 
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] cm 

  > How do I sign up to get the electronic verson of the CM? My email is 
  > keithkc@... 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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  > 
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  > 
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /ASKC ByLaws_Member Dir/Complete bylaws January 2009.pdf 
  Uploaded by : nexstar11 <yrag1919@...> 
  Description : ASKC Bylaws-January 2009 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKC%20ByLaws_Member%20Dir/Complete%20bylaws%20January%202009.pdf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

nexstar11 <yrag1919@...>
 

Scott,

You have my apologies. I incorporated the approved changes (all 
suggested changes did pass) into the bylaws the day after the January 
general meeting and thought I had already uploaded them to the files 
area. After reading your request I checked and see that I did NOT 
upload the new bylaws. That error has now been corrected. Thanks for 
pointing it out.

Clear skies,

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Darrick, Joe, David: 
> 
> 
> 
> Is the public night schedule as listed in the document "powell 
schedules 09 9703 version.xls" in the yahoo group files 
section "etched in stone"?  Or are there some changes still 
expected?  When it is solid, I'll start printing some flyers out. 
> 
> 
> 
> I never heard: Did the by-law changes all pass at the last meeting?
   Has someone updated a formal copy of the by-laws document?  And 
could they upload it to the " ASKC ByLaws_Member Dir " folder? 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Prairie Branch Elementary
Thursday February 5, 2009
6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
Location: 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO
Street: 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO
City State Zip: Grain Valley MO 64029
Phone: (816) 847-5070

Notes:
First Math & Science Night for this school.
David Fox for more info.


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The version I have posted is the version I am going with. I have not
received anymore changes from team leaders lately.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Darrick, Joe, David: 
> 
> 
> 
> Is the public night schedule as listed in the document "powell
schedules 09 9703 version.xls" in the yahoo group files section
"etched in stone"?  Or are there some changes still expected?  When
it is solid, I'll start printing some flyers out. 
> 
> 
> 
> I never heard: Did the by-law changes all pass at the last
meeting?   Has someone updated a formal copy of the by-laws
document?  And could they upload it to the " ASKC ByLaws_Member Dir "
folder? 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

My 2 cents worth:

I wholeheartedly agree with Dave Hudgins.  One club in particular
comes to mind...The Saguaro Astronomy Club in Phoenix, one of the most
active groups of observers in the U.S.  You can go to their website
and they have their last two years of monthly newsletters archived for
downloading BY ANYBODY.
Why hide our light under a bushel???

Ron Abbott

The Orange County Astronomers post theirs publicly after 30 days, so 
people who don't pay or come to meetings can't just crash outside events.

Also keeping out Powell and DSS information from public might be a good 
idea.  For what it's worth OCA keeps the Anza site (DSS equivalent) and 
their Santiago site a bit harder to find.

With the Powell Observatory mission of being available to the public, I 
doubt that any information should be redacted, and even posted with 
reasonable updates on the web site, so anyone so inclined to drive out 
won't arrive on a private, or otherwise unavailable to the public time.  
(This may in fact be the way it is now, just commenting here).

It is not so easy to find the OCA Anza site info online, should you try, 
or care to try w/o going to a meeting as well.

But publishing all the CM's online would be a great idea. 

Jim

Ron Abbott wrote:
> My 2 cents worth:
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with Dave Hudgins.  One club in particular
> comes to mind...The Saguaro Astronomy Club in Phoenix, one of the most
> active groups of observers in the U.S.  You can go to their website
> and they have their last two years of monthly newsletters archived for
> downloading BY ANYBODY.
> Why hide our light under a bushel???
>
> Ron Abbott
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>   

There have been a very few times when there was something in the CM that we 
didn't necessarily want non-ASKC people to be reading about. In those 
special circumstances, other clubs, some organizations and certain people on 
the mailing list were sent a specialy edited copy of the CM. That is such a 
rare occurance that it should not be a problem for the editor. It does add 
to the mailing cost since those issues ahd to be mailed at the full rate and 
printed separately.

I think the new web site design that is already under consideration should 
include posting of the newsletter. A one month delay would be optional but 
not really necessary that I can see. Again, a special edition could be 
posted if needed.

 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Abbott" <rcabbott@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 11:10 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Cosmic messenger - a humble question


> My 2 cents worth:
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with Dave Hudgins.  One club in particular
> comes to mind...The Saguaro Astronomy Club in Phoenix, one of the most
> active groups of observers in the U.S.  You can go to their website
> and they have their last two years of monthly newsletters archived for
> downloading BY ANYBODY.
> Why hide our light under a bushel???
>
> Ron Abbott
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jen Winter - ICSTARS
<comments@...>wrote:

> I think that some members may object to the newsletter going online
> because it is a benefit of membership.  The membership fee includes
> getting this newsletter.  So if a member stops getting the newsletter
> because it's online - and anyone who isn't a member can get it for no
> cost, the paying member (who may not get to come and participate in
> meetings often) may feel his membership is devalued.


If it really costs $1.50 to print and mail each issue to each member (per
David Young), then why not let members choose to opt-out of the printed
version and reduce their annual membership by maybe $10 or $12 (not the
entire $18) and the problem is solved.

Whatever amount the membership cost is reduced should be done in a way that
theres zero impact on the overall operating budget for the club - in other
words, reduce the cost by something slightly less than the actual cost of
printing and mailing 12 issues to a single member.

Seems like a win-win situation to me - those who only want the electronic
newsletter don't have to pay for the cost of printing and mailing that they
don't use, but those who still want the printed version can get it - they
just have to foot the bill for it. And by reducing the membership fee by
maybe 75% of the actual cost of printing and mailing, the club can use the
new "surplus" funds to subsidize the cost of hosting and serving the
electronic newsletter on the club website (that cost is almost nil, but at
least it's guaranteed to be covered).

-Marty


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Marty, et. al.,

Personally, I prefer to read a paper version, but I also receive the
electronic version.  I found out about and joined the ASKC because I
happened to come across a printed copy of the CM that someone(Vic
Winters?) shared with me.  Disclaimer--I work for the USPS, but that
is my job, not my passion or motivation for writing this.  If it
becomes prohibitively expensive to print/mail and the majority of
members approve dropping the paper version-then do so.  Times change
and so do communication methods.

Now can those of us who rarely or never get to the DSS or Powell have
our membership fees reduced and let you users pay much higher fees to
cover the upkeep and other expenses?  ;-)

I agree that making a modified CM available to the public on the
webpage is good advertising.

Grant Miller
Warrensburg MO

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jen Winter - ICSTARS
> <comments@...>wrote:
> 
> > I think that some members may object to the newsletter going online
> > because it is a benefit of membership.  The membership fee includes
> > getting this newsletter.  So if a member stops getting the newsletter
> > because it's online - and anyone who isn't a member can get it for no
> > cost, the paying member (who may not get to come and participate in
> > meetings often) may feel his membership is devalued.
> 
> 
> If it really costs $1.50 to print and mail each issue to each member
(per
> David Young), then why not let members choose to opt-out of the printed
> version and reduce their annual membership by maybe $10 or $12 (not the
> entire $18) and the problem is solved.
> 
> Whatever amount the membership cost is reduced should be done in a
way that
> theres zero impact on the overall operating budget for the club - in
other
> words, reduce the cost by something slightly less than the actual
cost of
> printing and mailing 12 issues to a single member.
> 
> Seems like a win-win situation to me - those who only want the
electronic
> newsletter don't have to pay for the cost of printing and mailing
that they
> don't use, but those who still want the printed version can get it -
they
> just have to foot the bill for it. And by reducing the membership fee by
> maybe 75% of the actual cost of printing and mailing, the club can
use the
> new "surplus" funds to subsidize the cost of hosting and serving the
> electronic newsletter on the club website (that cost is almost nil,
but at
> least it's guaranteed to be covered).
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Wake up early on Feb 6th and see green brightening Comet Lulin 


(if not this date go to this link/website and then go to archives link  which is on the Spaceweather page lower portion)


http://www.spaceweather.com/






Comet Lulin is approaching Earth for a 38-millon-mile close encounter on Feb. 24th. Look for this comet before dawn in the constellation Libra. On Feb. 6th the comet passes by double star Zubenelgenubli (zuBEN-el-JA-newbee). See Zubenelgenubi with your unaided eye (it is about as bright as stars in the Big Dipper- 2nd magnitude) then spot the comet with binoculars or a telescope. Hopefully you can observe l Comet Lulin with its greenish tinged coma and tails (anti and regular). If you see and/or photograph or sketch send me pics for my Comet Blog.





Dr. Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...), Olathe, KS:  Lat 38.834, Lon -94.778: Comet Observers Award Coordinator- Astronomical  League / Astronomical Society of Kansas, KC, MO-Louisburg,KS: http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/comet/comet.htm:  Comet Observers Blog: http://cometobservers.blogspot.com/:Subscribe to Comet Observers newsletter (send your email to):CometObserversAwardAL-subscribe@yahoogroups.com 












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Wake up early on Feb 6th and see green brightening Comet Lulin 


(if not this date go to this link/website and then go to archives link  which is on the Spaceweather page lower portion)


http://www.spaceweather.com/






Comet Lulin is approaching Earth for a 38-millon-mile close encounter on Feb. 24th. Look for this comet before dawn in the constellation Libra. On Feb. 6th the comet passes by double star Zubenelgenubli (zuBEN-el-JA-newbee). See Zubenelgenubi with your unaided eye (it is about as bright as stars in the Big Dipper- 2nd magnitude) then spot the comet with binoculars or a telescope. Hopefully you can observe l Comet Lulin with its greenish tinged coma and tails (anti and regular). If you see and/or photograph or sketch send me pics for my Comet Blog.





Dr. Eric Flescher (kcstarguy@...), Olathe, KS:  Lat 38.834, Lon -94.778: Comet Observers Award Coordinator- Astronomical  League / Astronomical Society of Kansas, KC, MO-Louisburg,KS: http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/comet/comet.htm:  Comet Observers Blog: http://cometobservers.blogspot.com/:Subscribe to Comet Observers newsletter (send your email to):CometObserversAwardAL-subscribe@yahoogroups.com 












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Whether the ASKC decides to continue printing a news letter or not, 
there are as many have already offered here, many benefits to having 
it online.

I only pop in once in a while as to be very honest, my main benefit 
these days is observing locations, however having create a lot of 
websites in the past the more modern sites offer online collaboration 
to create online magazines (Aka) news letters.

In these free systems (Joomla is one of them) you can designate 
someone as the editor and then have as many contributors as you like 
who can online submit articles for the editor to review and 
ultimately publish.

The resulting content each month can be culminated into a print news 
letter or online newsletter.

Joomla also has plugins to run an online user forum or BBS, online 
Picture galleries so members can post images and you could even use a 
subscription plugin if you wanted to manage memberships online as 
well.  

A lot of people do things online and you could simply give non online 
users an account and manually enter their membership.  The system for 
most would be great because it would auto remind users via e-mail 
that it was time to re-subscribe and they could us a CC or Paypal 
account that would also deposit automatically into the ASKC's bank 
account. 

You can see some examples of some of what I have said at 
http://www.radphotos.net if you like, it's a free site though and 
therefore does not use the subscription modules.  It does have 
Forums, Calendar, Galleries and Chat built in though.

The East Valley Astronomy Club looks to have adopted it as well
http://www.100hoursofastronomy.org/component/eventlist/venueevents/108
-east-valley-astronomy-club

Here's an Aussie Site
http://www.macastro.org.au/home/index.php?
option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=123


Hares another club in India
http://www.khagolmandal.com/


Wish I had time to help however I don't and so I know better than to 
do any thing more than type and post this right now.

Bottom line is that regardless of what the club does a strong 
electronic internet presence never hurts.  The best way to 
communicate is through multiple mediums so please keep that in mind 
as you move forward.  You could always make a pitch that asks users 
if they want their membership dollars to stretch farther in enabling 
ASKC funded events and facilities to go electronic. 

Example - 

Newsletter Options (please select 1)

1.) Website Online Publication
2.) Download News Letter and print your own
3.) Request it be faxed (online faxing services make this cheap and 
easy)
4.) Traditional US Postal Mail

The electronic presence will also greatly increase collaboration and 
thus enable more content as it will be more convenient for 
contributors.

Ok, back into the bushes again, hope this helps and you can contact 
me offline if you want more info and advice on this.

Mark


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jen Winter - ICSTARS
> <comments@...>wrote:
> 
> > I think that some members may object to the newsletter going 
online
> > because it is a benefit of membership.  The membership fee 
includes
> > getting this newsletter.  So if a member stops getting the 
newsletter
> > because it's online - and anyone who isn't a member can get it 
for no
> > cost, the paying member (who may not get to come and participate 
in
> > meetings often) may feel his membership is devalued.
> 
> 
> If it really costs $1.50 to print and mail each issue to each 
member (per
> David Young), then why not let members choose to opt-out of the 
printed
> version and reduce their annual membership by maybe $10 or $12 (not 
the
> entire $18) and the problem is solved.
> 
> Whatever amount the membership cost is reduced should be done in a 
way that
> theres zero impact on the overall operating budget for the club - 
in other
> words, reduce the cost by something slightly less than the actual 
cost of
> printing and mailing 12 issues to a single member.
> 
> Seems like a win-win situation to me - those who only want the 
electronic
> newsletter don't have to pay for the cost of printing and mailing 
that they
> don't use, but those who still want the printed version can get it -
 they
> just have to foot the bill for it. And by reducing the membership 
fee by
> maybe 75% of the actual cost of printing and mailing, the club can 
use the
> new "surplus" funds to subsidize the cost of hosting and serving the
> electronic newsletter on the club website (that cost is almost nil, 
but at
> least it's guaranteed to be covered).
> 
> -Marty
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

This site is a really cool example as well!

http://astronomy.abigbluesky.com/

l8r!
Mark

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <nova@...> wrote:
>
> Whether the ASKC decides to continue printing a news letter or not, 
> there are as many have already offered here, many benefits to 
having 
> it online.
> 
> I only pop in once in a while as to be very honest, my main benefit 
> these days is observing locations, however having create a lot of 
> websites in the past the more modern sites offer online 
collaboration 
> to create online magazines (Aka) news letters.
> 
> In these free systems (Joomla is one of them) you can designate 
> someone as the editor and then have as many contributors as you 
like 
> who can online submit articles for the editor to review and 
> ultimately publish.
> 
> The resulting content each month can be culminated into a print 
news 
> letter or online newsletter.
> 
> Joomla also has plugins to run an online user forum or BBS, online 
> Picture galleries so members can post images and you could even use 
a 
> subscription plugin if you wanted to manage memberships online as 
> well.  
> 
> A lot of people do things online and you could simply give non 
online 
> users an account and manually enter their membership.  The system 
for 
> most would be great because it would auto remind users via e-mail 
> that it was time to re-subscribe and they could us a CC or Paypal 
> account that would also deposit automatically into the ASKC's bank 
> account. 
> 
> You can see some examples of some of what I have said at 
> http://www.radphotos.net if you like, it's a free site though and 
> therefore does not use the subscription modules.  It does have 
> Forums, Calendar, Galleries and Chat built in though.
> 
> The East Valley Astronomy Club looks to have adopted it as well
> 
http://www.100hoursofastronomy.org/component/eventlist/venueevents/108
> -east-valley-astronomy-club
> 
> Here's an Aussie Site
> http://www.macastro.org.au/home/index.php?
> option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=123
> 
> 
> Hares another club in India
> http://www.khagolmandal.com/
> 
> 
> Wish I had time to help however I don't and so I know better than 
to 
> do any thing more than type and post this right now.
> 
> Bottom line is that regardless of what the club does a strong 
> electronic internet presence never hurts.  The best way to 
> communicate is through multiple mediums so please keep that in mind 
> as you move forward.  You could always make a pitch that asks users 
> if they want their membership dollars to stretch farther in 
enabling 
> ASKC funded events and facilities to go electronic. 
> 
> Example - 
> 
> Newsletter Options (please select 1)
> 
> 1.) Website Online Publication
> 2.) Download News Letter and print your own
> 3.) Request it be faxed (online faxing services make this cheap and 
> easy)
> 4.) Traditional US Postal Mail
> 
> The electronic presence will also greatly increase collaboration 
and 
> thus enable more content as it will be more convenient for 
> contributors.
> 
> Ok, back into the bushes again, hope this helps and you can contact 
> me offline if you want more info and advice on this.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Marty Tippin <martyt@> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Jen Winter - ICSTARS
> > <comments@>wrote:
> > 
> > > I think that some members may object to the newsletter going 
> online
> > > because it is a benefit of membership.  The membership fee 
> includes
> > > getting this newsletter.  So if a member stops getting the 
> newsletter
> > > because it's online - and anyone who isn't a member can get it 
> for no
> > > cost, the paying member (who may not get to come and 
participate 
> in
> > > meetings often) may feel his membership is devalued.
> > 
> > 
> > If it really costs $1.50 to print and mail each issue to each 
> member (per
> > David Young), then why not let members choose to opt-out of the 
> printed
> > version and reduce their annual membership by maybe $10 or $12 
(not 
> the
> > entire $18) and the problem is solved.
> > 
> > Whatever amount the membership cost is reduced should be done in 
a 
> way that
> > theres zero impact on the overall operating budget for the club - 
> in other
> > words, reduce the cost by something slightly less than the actual 
> cost of
> > printing and mailing 12 issues to a single member.
> > 
> > Seems like a win-win situation to me - those who only want the 
> electronic
> > newsletter don't have to pay for the cost of printing and mailing 
> that they
> > don't use, but those who still want the printed version can get 
it -
>  they
> > just have to foot the bill for it. And by reducing the membership 
> fee by
> > maybe 75% of the actual cost of printing and mailing, the club 
can 
> use the
> > new "surplus" funds to subsidize the cost of hosting and serving 
the
> > electronic newsletter on the club website (that cost is almost 
nil, 
> but at
> > least it's guaranteed to be covered).
> > 
> > -Marty
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

In reality, I think we should continue to print and mail the CM until we 
are certain that each and every member has inter net access at home.  It 
has to be all or nothing to really reap the cost savings.  If you want a 
printed version that is high resolution, then receive the electronic 
format and print it yourself. 

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WILLING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION AT THE NEXT 
BOARD MEETING TO POST THE CM ONE (1) MONTH BEHIND THE CURRENT ISSUE ON 
THE ASKC OFFICIAL WEB SITE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS? 

As far as having a cafeteria plan for perks of being a member and having 
a dues discount for this and that, forget it.  We can't start dividing 
up use compared to non-use fees.  It would be chaos.  It is there for 
you to take advantage of and enjoy.   Forty or forty-five dollars a year 
is not much to have the luxury of having the DSS and Powell at your 
fingertips. 

Maybe any money saved from cutting costs can be put towards some 
exceptional speakers or a special event other than DSS or Powell.

Go on the net see what other clubs have to offer.  We got it good here 
at the ASKC.



Joe

Internet maps are having problems finding this school.
It's at the corner of Dillingham Road and Duncan Road. 

about 200 feet down Dillingham, just North East of that corner.

(Not near Pink hill road like the maps show)

Thanks!!$B!!(B

David M. Fox  (816) 985-1989

  _____  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:00 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Prairie Branch Elementary, 2/5/2009, 6:00 pm


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Time:	  	 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm 	
Location:	  	 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO	
Street:	  	 2100 Dillingham - Grain Valley, MO	
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This might be a good time to mention that the next BOARD MEETING is next week Thursday, February 12, at 7pm.  I don't know the name of the location, but its at the SE corner of Troost and 54th street. 



Remember that this meeting is open to ALL ASKC members.  At these meetings, EVERYONE has the right to voice their opinion.   Why not show up and see how your money is being spent by the club!  Believe me, it's not always fun and games. 



-Scott 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> 
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:14:04 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] CM and Dues 






In reality, I think we should continue to print and mail the CM until we 
are certain that each and every member has inter net access at home. It 
has to be all or nothing to really reap the cost savings. If you want a 
printed version that is high resolution, then receive the electronic 
format and print it yourself. 

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WILLING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION AT THE NEXT 
BOARD MEETING TO POST THE CM ONE (1) MONTH BEHIND THE CURRENT ISSUE ON 
THE ASKC OFFICIAL WEB SITE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS? 

As far as having a cafeteria plan for perks of being a member and having 
a dues discount for this and that, forget it. We can't start dividing 
up use compared to non-use fees. It would be chaos. It is there for 
you to take advantage of and enjoy. Forty or forty-five dollars a year 
is not much to have the luxury of having the DSS and Powell at your 
fingertips. 

Maybe any money saved from cutting costs can be put towards some 
exceptional speakers or a special event other than DSS or Powell. 

Go on the net see what other clubs have to offer. We got it good here 
at the ASKC. 

Joe 


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I agree that publishing the CM 30 days late  is a good idea.  I'm not 
certain it couldn't just be posted on the ASKC site immediately.  At any 
rate, kudos to the ones that make the CM a great newsletter.
Geo.

Your Right Joe. We have it very good in the ASKC. I for one think we are still under selling the worth of a Membership to the ASKC.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:14:04 AM
Subject: [ASKC] CM and Dues


In reality, I think we should continue to print and mail the CM until we 
are certain that each and every member has inter net access at home. It 
has to be all or nothing to really reap the cost savings. If you want a 
printed version that is high resolution, then receive the electronic 
format and print it yourself. 

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WILLING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION AT THE NEXT 
BOARD MEETING TO POST THE CM ONE (1) MONTH BEHIND THE CURRENT ISSUE ON 
THE ASKC OFFICIAL WEB SITE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS? 

As far as having a cafeteria plan for perks of being a member and having 
a dues discount for this and that, forget it. We can't start dividing 
up use compared to non-use fees. It would be chaos. It is there for 
you to take advantage of and enjoy. Forty or forty-five dollars a year 
is not much to have the luxury of having the DSS and Powell at your 
fingertips. 

Maybe any money saved from cutting costs can be put towards some 
exceptional speakers or a special event other than DSS or Powell.

Go on the net see what other clubs have to offer. We got it good here 
at the ASKC.

Joe
 

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I have a new house phone number it's 816-229-6955
My cell # is still 816-985-5413
 
Thanks!

David M. Fox





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I have a request for a paying group for March 14. I won't book it unless I have a volunteer(s) to staff it. The staff assigned already has a night that week.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have a request for a private night at Powell for Friday March 27. I've resisted scheduling that weekend since its Messier Marathon.

The group is a church group from Louisburg and the request came from Caroly Karns, as in Park Board member Karns.

Joe Alburty and Leif Bahl are assigned duty but I hate to schedule it in case they want to go to the DSS. 

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I'll help.  Penciling it in now.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> I have a request for a private night at Powell for Friday March 27. 
I've resisted scheduling that weekend since its Messier Marathon.
> 
> The group is a church group from Louisburg and the request came from 
Caroly Karns, as in Park Board member Karns.
> 
> Joe Alburty and Leif Bahl are assigned duty but I hate to schedule 
it in case they want to go to the DSS. 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Einstein's birthday.  Can't think of anything else I'd rather do.  Put 
me down for this one too ... who/how big is the group?

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> I have a request for a paying group for March 14. I won't book it 
unless I have a volunteer(s) to staff it. The staff assigned already 
has a night that week.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

private night for webloe scouts
Friday February 6, 2009
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm

Notes:
Patrick Truhe
816-721-8070       Note this is a rain or shine event
pstruhe@...    Darrick Gray


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I'm hoping a few others feel like celebrating Al's 130th the same 
way, because this turns out to be a Scout troop with something like 
40 in attendance (kids + adults).  Need 1 other helper minimum and 3 
would be better -- 4 groups of 10 apiece could be rotated between 
classroom, dome, constellations, and LCT.

I have e-mailed the Scoutmaster with sunset time and other pertinent 
info.  Suggested start time is 7:30 PM CDT.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> Einstein's birthday.  Can't think of anything else I'd rather do.  
Put 
> me down for this one too ... who/how big is the group?
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a request for a paying group for March 14. I won't book 
it 
> unless I have a volunteer(s) to staff it. The staff assigned 
already 
> has a night that week.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

 


 With apologies to Mr. Harshaw
I'll help. Birthdays are relatively fun.
Specially this one.
Even if I'm generally not.

David Neuenschwander
11845 NE 201 Rd.
Deepwater, MO 64740
816.519.6288


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 9:20 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Re: private night (3/14/09)























    

            
 Need 1 other helper minimum 



Jay



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:

>

> Einstein's birthday.



 

    



           

    
    


    
    




    
    
 



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Check out the neat rings around the Moon.  Now!  10:35

Thanks, Joe.
That really is neat.
I hope some photographer gets a few pictures!
Kathy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Moon now!


> Check out the neat rings around the Moon.  Now!  10:35

Well, it looked a lot better before I came inside to send out the 
message.  It had coinciding rings of light and dark.  Looked like a 
large target.

Joe

Comet Lulin has a disconnected tail. See 2/5
http://www.spaceweather.com/

It also will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra in the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.
?I will try to make it down to Powell possibly Friday morning (before teaching) but most likely on Saturday morning (eventhough it won't be as good - not as close to the star). 

This is a time I wish I was a keyholder. 
Does anyone come down before dawn to look through the big scope? 
Anyone willing to meet me down at Powell early on Saturday morning to look at the comet through scope. Maybe we can even try a photo?
Email me or call me (better as I only see the collection of messages usually once a day) at 913-780-54902.
BTW it will be getting brighter , maybe to 5th magnitude if we are lucky around 2/24
Thanks
Eric


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Folks, 

Since I was the goofball who first asked WHY we don't make the CM available as a link from our club website ... let me clarify:

No, I never intended to question the desirability of having a BOTH a hard copy (which I prefer!) and the electronic version. 

What I meant was, why don't we post on our website a link to the PREVIOUS month's edition (which all club members had already received by mail or electronic) for visitors to see what great stuff the ASKC is doing. 

Hey, I'm just trying to get more bang and exposure for all the effort that goes into this award-winning club publication!

Dave H.

 

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That's exactly what I will propse at the next board meeting. Unfortunately 
that will be more work for the person(s) who maintain the web site but it 
won't be the 12 hours or so it takes Marcia to put the thing together to 
start with.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Hudgins" <dhudgins@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: [ASKC] CM- Clarifying a humble question


> Folks,
>
> Since I was the goofball who first asked WHY we don't make the CM 
> available as a link from our club website ... let me clarify:
>
> No, I never intended to question the desirability of having a BOTH a hard 
> copy (which I prefer!) and the electronic version.
>
> What I meant was, why don't we post on our website a link to the PREVIOUS 
> month's edition (which all club members had already received by mail or 
> electronic) for visitors to see what great stuff the ASKC is doing.
>
> Hey, I'm just trying to get more bang and exposure for all the effort that 
> goes into this award-winning club publication!
>
> Dave H.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

My cell phone has been changed.   My old number is no longer checked.
New number 816-810-3882.

Thanks 
Gary Martin

Want to see the future of telescopes?
Look at the new entry in StarMaster's website - 
http://www.starmastertelescopes.com/MX20.htm

Dan

This looks like a good thing for our buddy Mike Sterling! No ladders Mike!
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: gdj561956 <gdj102356@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:58:18 PM
Subject: [ASKC] 20" " F/3 "tiny" scope


Want to see the future of telescopes?
Look at the new entry in StarMaster's website - 
http://www.starmast ertelescopes. com/MX20. htm

Dan




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Eric,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the 30" is temporarily closed due to dome shutter repairs.  I'm sure Darrick will let everyone know when it is back up and running.

Rick Henderson

---- KCStarguy@... wrote: 
> Comet Lulin has a disconnected tail. See 2/5
> http://www.spaceweather.com/
> 
> It also will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra in the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.
> ?I will try to make it down to Powell possibly Friday morning (before teaching) but most likely on Saturday morning (eventhough it won't be as good - not as close to the star). 
> 
> This is a time I wish I was a keyholder. 
> Does anyone come down before dawn to look through the big scope? 
> Anyone willing to meet me down at Powell early on Saturday morning to look at the comet through scope. Maybe we can even try a photo?
> Email me or call me (better as I only see the collection of messages usually once a day) at 913-780-54902.
> BTW it will be getting brighter , maybe to 5th magnitude if we are lucky around 2/24
> Thanks
> Eric
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

There's always the 16" in the LCT shed, said the guy who may have 
just set himself up for a crack-of-dawn trip to Louisburg on 
Saturday.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Eric,
> 
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the 30" is temporarily 
closed due to dome shutter repairs.  I'm sure Darrick will let 
everyone know when it is back up and running.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> ---- KCStarguy@... wrote: 
> > Comet Lulin has a disconnected tail. See 2/5
> > http://www.spaceweather.com/
> > 
> > It also will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra in 
the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with 
binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.
> > ?I will try to make it down to Powell possibly Friday morning 
(before teaching) but most likely on Saturday morning (eventhough it 
won't be as good - not as close to the star). 
> > 
> > This is a time I wish I was a keyholder. 
> > Does anyone come down before dawn to look through the big scope? 
> > Anyone willing to meet me down at Powell early on Saturday 
morning to look at the comet through scope. Maybe we can even try a 
photo?
> > Email me or call me (better as I only see the collection of 
messages usually once a day) at 913-780-54902.
> > BTW it will be getting brighter , maybe to 5th magnitude if we 
are lucky around 2/24
> > Thanks
> > Eric
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Ok guys. The 30" telescope can be used but only by SPECIAL arrangement. I 
can open up for you and operate the shutter. NO ONE ELSE should attempt it 
without first checking with Darrick Gray. There's a gremlin in the circuit 
that if not handled properly WILL result in disaster!

Let me know if you and Eric decide to go out Friday or Saturday. I'll do one 
but not both.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:40 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: comet Lulin in the morning


> There's always the 16" in the LCT shed, said the guy who may have
> just set himself up for a crack-of-dawn trip to Louisburg on
> Saturday.
>
> Jay
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the 30" is temporarily
> closed due to dome shutter repairs.  I'm sure Darrick will let
> everyone know when it is back up and running.
>>
>> Rick Henderson
>>
>> ---- KCStarguy@... wrote:
>> > Comet Lulin has a disconnected tail. See 2/5
>> > http://www.spaceweather.com/
>> >
>> > It also will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra in
> the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with
> binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.
>> > ?I will try to make it down to Powell possibly Friday morning
> (before teaching) but most likely on Saturday morning (eventhough it
> won't be as good - not as close to the star).
>> >
>> > This is a time I wish I was a keyholder.
>> > Does anyone come down before dawn to look through the big scope?
>> > Anyone willing to meet me down at Powell early on Saturday
> morning to look at the comet through scope. Maybe we can even try a
> photo?
>> > Email me or call me (better as I only see the collection of
> messages usually once a day) at 913-780-54902.
>> > BTW it will be getting brighter , maybe to 5th magnitude if we
> are lucky around 2/24
>> > Thanks
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I have 4 reservations for tonight's talk. Marcia and I and Gary and Linda Pittman have seats. It is standing room only at this time if you don't have a resevation.

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Marcia and I will be at Pizza 51 about 6:30 to eat before the lecture. Be advised the lecture is standing room only now.

I have seats reserved at the lecture for Gary and Linda.


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Thank you David. Linda and I should be there by 7:15.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> I have 4 reservations for tonight's talk. Marcia and I and Gary and 
Linda Pittman have seats. It is standing room only at this time if you 
don't have a resevation.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'll let Eric make the call.  I know I'm not up for it tomorrow -- 
it would have to be Saturday.  But it's his idea.

Clear sky clock looks decent.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Ok guys. The 30" telescope can be used but only by SPECIAL 
arrangement. I 
> can open up for you and operate the shutter. NO ONE ELSE should 
attempt it 
> without first checking with Darrick Gray. There's a gremlin in the 
circuit 
> that if not handled properly WILL result in disaster!
> 
> Let me know if you and Eric decide to go out Friday or Saturday. 
I'll do one 
> but not both.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:40 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: comet Lulin in the morning
> 
> 
> > There's always the 16" in the LCT shed, said the guy who may have
> > just set himself up for a crack-of-dawn trip to Louisburg on
> > Saturday.
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Eric,
> >>
> >> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the 30" is temporarily
> > closed due to dome shutter repairs.  I'm sure Darrick will let
> > everyone know when it is back up and running.
> >>
> >> Rick Henderson
> >>
> >> ---- KCStarguy@ wrote:
> >> > Comet Lulin has a disconnected tail. See 2/5
> >> > http://www.spaceweather.com/
> >> >
> >> > It also will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra 
in
> > the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with
> > binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.
> >> > ?I will try to make it down to Powell possibly Friday morning
> > (before teaching) but most likely on Saturday morning 
(eventhough it
> > won't be as good - not as close to the star).
> >> >
> >> > This is a time I wish I was a keyholder.
> >> > Does anyone come down before dawn to look through the big 
scope?
> >> > Anyone willing to meet me down at Powell early on Saturday
> > morning to look at the comet through scope. Maybe we can even 
try a
> > photo?
> >> > Email me or call me (better as I only see the collection of
> > messages usually once a day) at 913-780-54902.
> >> > BTW it will be getting brighter , maybe to 5th magnitude if we
> > are lucky around 2/24
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Eric
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Good strategy, David.  Get extra garlic bread, too.  You will have plenty of 
elbow room at the lecture that way.
Geo.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Pizza


> Marcia and I will be at Pizza 51 about 6:30 to eat before the lecture. Be 
> advised the lecture is standing room only now.
>
> I have seats reserved at the lecture for Gary and Linda.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Do any of you have Kenneth Glyn Jones book "Search for the Nebulae"????

I am looking for the information Jones has for Le Gentil's description of M39, and his source for that information.

Thanks,
Kathy

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Kathy,

No, but I have "Messier's Nebulae & Star Clusters",
by the same author. It also contains Le Gentil's
description of M39, and reads as follows:


M 39  NGC 7092
A galactic cluster, type 'e' in CYGNUS
R.A. 21 h 30.4 m  Dec. N 48� 13' (1950)
Size 32' diam. Mag. 5.2 Distance 250 pc, 825 lt-yrs.

Probably discovered by Le Gentil in 1750 (Bigourdan.)*

LE GENTIL 'At the tip of the tail of Cygnus...it is a
large cloud, bigger at one end than the other; the small
end facing south-east...It seems opaque and very dim...
but can be seen without the telescope.'
MESSIER ... <snipped>
BODE ... <ditto>
SMYTH ... <etc.>

* Bigourdan's identification of Le Gentil's observation
with M39 is extremely doubtful, especially as he gave no
position. The discovery is more properly allowed to Messier
whose observation is supported by good co-ordinates.


I think he's right. It sounds to me like Le Gentil is
describing the North America and Pelican Nebulae.
Hope this helps,

John C


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> Do any of you have Kenneth Glyn Jones book
> "Search for the Nebulae"????
> 
> I am looking for the information Jones has
> for Le Gentil's description of M39, and his
> source for that information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kathy

If you use TheSky version 5 and 6, here is the link to updating comet 
ephemerides.  DON'T USE THE LINK IN THE WINDOW OF THE INSTRUCTIONS.  Use 
the url address below when following the instruction on changing the 
directory.  I just did it.

Use this:  http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides/Comets/Soft06Cmt.txt


Instruction on finding registry:
http://www.bisque.com/Tom/datawizard/comets5.asp

It works.  Just selected "DATA" --> Comets and picked observable comets 
and it went to Harvard and listed the comets to select.  Puts the comet 
just above a1,2 Libra.

Joe




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TheSky puts the comets crossing the meridian at 06:03 this coming 
morning...if you are headed to Powell.  I hope to get up in time to walk 
out in the field and see if the lx200 will boot up after sitting out 
there since October.

Happy hunting.

Joe

Thanks, John.
I don't really, really really, need the book anymore as I got some 
additional information that answers the question that was bugging me the 
most.
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Book search


Kathy,

No, but I have "Messier's Nebulae & Star Clusters",
by the same author. It also contains Le Gentil's
description of M39, and reads as follows:


M 39  NGC 7092
A galactic cluster, type 'e' in CYGNUS
R.A. 21 h 30.4 m  Dec. N 48� 13' (1950)
Size 32' diam. Mag. 5.2 Distance 250 pc, 825 lt-yrs.

Probably discovered by Le Gentil in 1750 (Bigourdan.)*

LE GENTIL 'At the tip of the tail of Cygnus...it is a
large cloud, bigger at one end than the other; the small
end facing south-east...It seems opaque and very dim...
but can be seen without the telescope.'
MESSIER ... <snipped>
BODE ... <ditto>
SMYTH ... <etc.>

* Bigourdan's identification of Le Gentil's observation
with M39 is extremely doubtful, especially as he gave no
position. The discovery is more properly allowed to Messier
whose observation is supported by good co-ordinates.


I think he's right. It sounds to me like Le Gentil is
describing the North America and Pelican Nebulae.
Hope this helps,

John C


--- Kathy Machin wrote:
>
> Do any of you have Kenneth Glyn Jones book
> "Search for the Nebulae"????
>
> I am looking for the information Jones has
> for Le Gentil's description of M39, and his
> source for that information.
>
> Thanks,
> Kathy

Other than the edges I am guessing its great... I actually like my
16.5 3.7FX better than the 24 4.5 I owned and as with all scopes, each
has its own unique views with this 16 notably seeing M51 Detail in the
arms like I have not seen visually on any other scope.  I believe a
few others can vouch for this from this summers ASKC star Party.

One thing though to keep in mind with these scopes is magnification,
and if you like cranking it up a bit, its harder to achieve with the
faster mirrors as all your eyepieces have less power.

In some strange way though it may equate to allowing your better eye
pieces to wow you even more as they are less strained under lower
magnification and I am theorizing more optically sweet.

Its nice not to have to have a latter and that the heaviest piece is
only 35lbs as well as that is manageable for some years to come.  :)

I regret with he economy like it is I may have to sell this bad boy,
however I am trying to hang on to it as long as I can for now.

Hope this helps for some of you wondering about these scopes.  In some
ways I believe my Paracor actually works better on the faster mirror,
just thought some might find that interesting as well.

Mark

Thanks Joe. It finally works. Any ideas how to get the images to show up on the multi media tab of the object information?

John




________________________________
From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:42:56 PM
Subject: [ASKC] TheSky users


If you use TheSky version 5 and 6, here is the link to updating comet 
ephemerides. DON'T USE THE LINK IN THE WINDOW OF THE INSTRUCTIONS. Use 
the url address below when following the instruction on changing the 
directory. I just did it.

Use this: http://www.cfa. harvard.edu/ iau/Ephemerides/ Comets/Soft06Cmt .txt

Instruction on finding registry:
http://www.bisque. com/Tom/datawiza rd/comets5. asp

It works. Just selected "DATA" --> Comets and picked observable comets 
and it went to Harvard and listed the comets to select. Puts the comet 
just above a1,2 Libra.

Joe

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The comet is much larger in appearance than I expected.  Easy
binocular target (7 X 35) from the sticks this morning Friday 2/6.

David Neuenschwander

KCStarguy@ wrote:
Comet Lulin will be next to a bright star? Zubenelgenubi in Libra in
the morning 2/6 before dawn. I could not quite make it out with
binoculars from Olathe Thursday morning.


> >> > Thanks
> >> > Eric

Well, a lack of sleep during the week and a warm bed trumped the cold 
eyepiece.  I didn't get up in time to view.  I'll get a fresh stick of 
gum and try is again.

Joe

Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for Comet Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees up in the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to help at either Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that it would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be worth a shot.  It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like an interesting one.

Rick Henderson

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Rick,

I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings are edge 
on right now.  They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) at the 
end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but probably 
still pretty good come that weekend?

Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up some 
interest.

Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during the off-
season.

I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night.  If we could get 
4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.

Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for Comet 
Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees up in 
the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to help at 
either Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that it 
would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be worth a 
shot.  It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like an 
interesting one.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I concur; see http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700

Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
>
> Rick,
> 
> I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings are 
edge 
> on right now.  They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) at 
the 
> end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
probably 
> still pretty good come that weekend?
> 
> Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up some 
> interest.
> 
> Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during the 
off-
> season.
> 
> I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night.  If we could 
get 
> 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> 
> Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for 
Comet 
> Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees up 
in 
> the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to help 
at 
> either Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that 
it 
> would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be worth 
a 
> shot.  It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like 
an 
> interesting one.
> > 
> > Rick Henderson
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Does anyone know how to turn off the Y! Short cut�window that pops up in an E-mail? In Mitch's last E-mail he used the phrase "Double Whammy". If I passed the cursor over the highlighted words it gives me info about Double Whammy the Stage Show. I'd like to turn this off.
Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 

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I just rec.ed a report back from last night outreach here in Grain Valley.
 
"We had a lot of great reports for your activity. Thanks again for coming
and for scheduling it on such a short notice!! :)

We didn't count the parents, but we had about 115 students." so maybe 160
total."

 

I wish to Thank the following for their help at this event.

John B. , John C, Joe W and the wife and kids for bringing the pizza...

 

David M. Fox




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No. Powell has been reserved by the Louisburg Park Board Commisioner for 
February 27. Saturday is General Meeting night. We can discuss it at the 
board meeting. If we get a bunch of volunteers for Saturday night we could 
consider opening Powell but I don't see a big public attendance without 
major media coverage of a so so comet.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...>
To: "ASKC Yahoo Group" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Comet Lulin and Public Outreach


> Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for Comet 
> Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees up in the 
> eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to help at either 
> Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that it would require 
> some advertising and staffing, but it might be worth a shot.  It won't be 
> a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like an interesting one.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Exactly how many people are considering an early morning trip to Powell to view the comet? I offered to open up and run the telescope but haven't heard back from anyone. If I don't hear from anyone by 8:00 tonight I'm not going.

Remember the 30" telescope is NOT to be used by anyone! The shutter is NOT fixed.

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Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
So, are you game for Feb 27/28?

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> I concur; see http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> 
> Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@> wrote:
> >
> > Rick,
> > 
> > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings are 
> edge 
> > on right now.  They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) at 
> the 
> > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> probably 
> > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > 
> > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up some 
> > interest.
> > 
> > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during the 
> off-
> > season.
> > 
> > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night.  If we 
could 
> get 
> > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > 
> > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > 
> > Mitch Glaze
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for 
> Comet 
> > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees 
up 
> in 
> > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to 
help 
> at 
> > either Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that 
> it 
> > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
worth 
> a 
> > shot.  It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like 
> an 
> > interesting one.
> > > 
> > > Rick Henderson
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Okay, make that just Sat Feb 28 in light of the Park Commissioner 
reservation on Fri night. 

So, its GM night.  Any other staff game to give a whirl on a public 
night?

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
> So, are you game for Feb 27/28?
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > I concur; see 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> > 
> > Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick,
> > > 
> > > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings 
are 
> > edge 
> > > on right now.  They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) 
at 
> > the 
> > > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> > probably 
> > > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > > 
> > > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up 
some 
> > > interest.
> > > 
> > > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during 
the 
> > off-
> > > season.
> > > 
> > > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night.  If we 
> could 
> > get 
> > > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > > 
> > > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > > 
> > > Mitch Glaze
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko 
for 
> > Comet 
> > > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees 
> up 
> > in 
> > > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to 
> help 
> > at 
> > > either Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and 
that 
> > it 
> > > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
> worth 
> > a 
> > > shot.  It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look 
like 
> > an 
> > > interesting one.
> > > > 
> > > > Rick Henderson
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I'm a definite maybe ..... 
What is the expected rendevous time?
Weather forecast I'm seeing is calling for winds to ~30mph and 40% 
cloud cover......  


Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly how many people are considering an early morning trip to 
Powell to view the comet? I offered to open up and run the telescope 
but haven't heard back from anyone. If I don't hear from anyone by 
8:00 tonight I'm not going.
> 
> Remember the 30" telescope is NOT to be used by anyone! The shutter 
is NOT fixed.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Tell the media it was predicted by the Mayan calendar.

(ducking & running)

 
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> No. Powell has been reserved by the Louisburg Park Board 
Commisioner for 
> February 27. Saturday is General Meeting night. We can discuss it 
at the 
> board meeting. If we get a bunch of volunteers for Saturday night 
we could 
> consider opening Powell but I don't see a big public attendance 
without 
> major media coverage of a so so comet.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...>
> To: "ASKC Yahoo Group" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:42 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Comet Lulin and Public Outreach
> 
> 
> > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for 
Comet 
> > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28?  It's almost 40 degrees 
up in the 
> > eastern sky by 9 PM on those days.  I would be willing to help 
at either 
> > Powell or Warko.  I know that Saturday is our GM and that it 
would require 
> > some advertising and staffing, but it might be worth a shot.  It 
won't be 
> > a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like an interesting one.
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Civil twilight begins at 6:51 AM.  We'd probably better be there by 
6 if we want to have any chance of seeing it.

I'll go if Eric still wants to.  Otherwise, not.

Clear sky clock still looks really good, though.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a definite maybe ..... 
> What is the expected rendevous time?
> Weather forecast I'm seeing is calling for winds to ~30mph and 40% 
> cloud cover......  
> 
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > Exactly how many people are considering an early morning trip to 
> Powell to view the comet? I offered to open up and run the 
telescope 
> but haven't heard back from anyone. If I don't hear from anyone by 
> 8:00 tonight I'm not going.
> > 
> > Remember the 30" telescope is NOT to be used by anyone! The 
shutter 
> is NOT fixed.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Civil twilight begins at 6:51 AM.  We'd probably better be there by 
6 if we want to have any chance of seeing it.

I'll go if Eric still wants to.  Otherwise, not.

Clear sky clock still looks really good, though.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
>
> I'm a definite maybe ..... 
> What is the expected rendevous time?
> Weather forecast I'm seeing is calling for winds to ~30mph and 40% 
> cloud cover......  
> 
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > Exactly how many people are considering an early morning trip to 
> Powell to view the comet? I offered to open up and run the 
telescope 
> but haven't heard back from anyone. If I don't hear from anyone by 
> 8:00 tonight I'm not going.
> > 
> > Remember the 30" telescope is NOT to be used by anyone! The 
shutter 
> is NOT fixed.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

 Yes.

Please post a reminder if it's a go. Maybe we can set the hook deeper in Louisburg with a two-fer?

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander


 11845 NE 201 Rd.
Deepwater, MO 64740
816.519.6288


 

-----Original Message-----
From: glaze_m <mglaze@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:09 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach























    

            
Okay, make that just Sat Feb 28 in light of the Park Commissioner 

reservation on Fri night. 



So, its GM night.  Any other staff game to give a whirl on a public 

night?



Mitch Glaze





 

    
  

    

           
  
    
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Powell will be open at 4:30 AM Saturday morning to view the comet.

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I'm planning on being there at 4:45.
David, if you are up and decide not to go for whatever reason, you 
could leave a message on my cell 913-707-7328.

Of course, I'm not very good at getting up at 3:30 am in the morning 
but too tired to just stay up.

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Powell will be open at 4:30 AM Saturday morning to view the comet.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm shooting for 5 myself.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
>
> I'm planning on being there at 4:45.
> David, if you are up and decide not to go for whatever reason, you 
> could leave a message on my cell 913-707-7328.
> 
> Of course, I'm not very good at getting up at 3:30 am in the 
morning 
> but too tired to just stay up.
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > Powell will be open at 4:30 AM Saturday morning to view the 
comet.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I'm game to open the Warko on Friday night.

John Gordon:

Send me a private message from your address with what version you are using.

Thanks,

Joe

jos dot wright at yahoo dot com

Rita and I terminated Road Runner  16 months ago.  I have posted our 
(my) new address at least three times prior in this period.

Joe's  jos.wright@...        jos dot wright at yahoo dot com

Rita's rr32rita @...           rr32rita at yahoo dot com


End of PSA.

If you don't want me to read or reply to your message, by all means, 
send it to road runner.

Joe

Eric Flecher, Jay Manifold, Mitch Glaze and I obsrved the comet and Saturn this morning. Not spectacular but interesting. Mitch and I thought we could see a hint of a tail but then we have great imaginations.

The limit switch DID NOT WORK on closing and I had to stop the shutter with the drum switch.

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Too many clouds up here.  Going to get my morning cappuccino.

Have fun.

Joe

My aren't we testy on a cloudy morning before we've had our cappuccino?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: [ASKC] FINAL NOTICE


> Rita and I terminated Road Runner  16 months ago.  I have posted our 
> (my) new address at least three times prior in this period.
> 
> Joe's  jos.wright@...        jos dot wright at yahoo dot com
> 
> Rita's rr32rita @...           rr32rita at yahoo dot com
> 
> 
> End of PSA.
> 
> If you don't want me to read or reply to your message, by all means, 
> send it to road runner.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

As one of my Eagle Scouts said about me, "I'm brutally honest!"  You 
haven't seen testy yet.

Never surrender, never give up.

Joe

David Young wrote:

> My aren't we testy on a cloudy morning before we've had our cappuccino?
>
>
>
> 



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I'm looking for a cable:

8 Pin DIN to DB-9.

It controls the PictureTel camera.  This will allow pan, tilt, zoom and 
focus by the computer. 

Electronic Supply didn't have it.

Anyone know who might? 

Thanks,

Joe

Joe,
I just dug through my cable and connectors, I have a 
6-pin DIN to DB9 but not your 8 pin DIN. You are welcome
to use it if you can adapt it.

-Stuart

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a cable:
> 
> 8 Pin DIN to DB-9.
> 
> It controls the PictureTel camera.  This will allow pan, tilt, zoom and 
> focus by the computer. 
> 
> Electronic Supply didn't have it.
> 
> Anyone know who might? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

Jay,

I just got back from NYC and I am just catching up on the groups posts.
You can add me to one of the one's supporting the private group 
for the scouts.  I'll bring my 14.5 Starmaster to get some much
needed photons.

-Stuart

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> I'm hoping a few others feel like celebrating Al's 130th the same 
> way, because this turns out to be a Scout troop with something like 
> 40 in attendance (kids + adults).  Need 1 other helper minimum and 3 
> would be better -- 4 groups of 10 apiece could be rotated between 
> classroom, dome, constellations, and LCT.
> 
> I have e-mailed the Scoutmaster with sunset time and other pertinent 
> info.  Suggested start time is 7:30 PM CDT.
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > Einstein's birthday.  Can't think of anything else I'd rather do.  
> Put 
> > me down for this one too ... who/how big is the group?
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a request for a paying group for March 14. I won't book 
> it 
> > unless I have a volunteer(s) to staff it. The staff assigned 
> already 
> > has a night that week.
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Joe,
For those of us who usually aren't in town or have access to the web,
can you kindly tell us where the club meets? Last I heard, it was
held at Union Station.
-Stuart


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> In reality, I think we should continue to print and mail the CM until we 
> are certain that each and every member has inter net access at home.  It 
> has to be all or nothing to really reap the cost savings.  If you want a 
> printed version that is high resolution, then receive the electronic 
> format and print it yourself. 
> 
> IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WILLING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION AT THE NEXT 
> BOARD MEETING TO POST THE CM ONE (1) MONTH BEHIND THE CURRENT ISSUE ON 
> THE ASKC OFFICIAL WEB SITE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS? 
> 
> As far as having a cafeteria plan for perks of being a member and having 
> a dues discount for this and that, forget it.  We can't start dividing 
> up use compared to non-use fees.  It would be chaos.  It is there for 
> you to take advantage of and enjoy.   Forty or forty-five dollars a year 
> is not much to have the luxury of having the DSS and Powell at your 
> fingertips. 
> 
> Maybe any money saved from cutting costs can be put towards some 
> exceptional speakers or a special event other than DSS or Powell.
> 
> Go on the net see what other clubs have to offer.  We got it good here 
> at the ASKC.
> 
> 
> 
> Joe
>

We haven't met at union station for over a year. The board meets at the 
Rockhust Community Center at the southeast corner of 54th and Troost. We 
start at about 7:15

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stuart riley" <nx925@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: CM and Dues


> Joe,
> For those of us who usually aren't in town or have access to the web,
> can you kindly tell us where the club meets? Last I heard, it was
> held at Union Station.
> -Stuart
>

> Never surrender, never give up.

I didn't know you were a "Galaxy Quest" fan Joe.

Gary

Don't think it was Jay... just saying..

 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
glaze_m
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:07 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach

 

Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
So, are you game for Feb 27/28?

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Jay Manifold"
<jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> I concur; see http://tech.
<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700>
groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> 
> Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "glaze_m"
<mglaze@> wrote:
> >
> > Rick,
> > 
> > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings are 
> edge 
> > on right now. They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) at 
> the 
> > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> probably 
> > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > 
> > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up some 
> > interest.
> > 
> > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during the 
> off-
> > season.
> > 
> > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night. If we 
could 
> get 
> > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > 
> > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > 
> > Mitch Glaze
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko for 
> Comet 
> > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28? It's almost 40 degrees 
up 
> in 
> > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days. I would be willing to 
help 
> at 
> > either Powell or Warko. I know that Saturday is our GM and that 
> it 
> > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
worth 
> a 
> > shot. It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like 
> an 
> > interesting one.
> > > 
> > > Rick Henderson
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>





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I'm up for volunteering at Powell on Saturday.  I hate to miss the GM, but this may be more important and help get Powell back into the public eye.  Literally and figuratively.

Perhaps plug Friday night at Warko and Saturday night at Powell.

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: glaze_m 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:09 PM
  Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach


  Okay, make that just Sat Feb 28 in light of the Park Commissioner 
  reservation on Fri night. 

  So, its GM night. Any other staff game to give a whirl on a public 
  night?

  Mitch Glaze

  --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@...> wrote:
  >
  > Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
  > So, are you game for Feb 27/28?
  > 
  > Mitch Glaze
  > 
  > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
  > >
  > > I concur; see 
  http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
  > > 
  > > Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
  > > 
  > > Jay
  > > 
  > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Rick,
  > > > 
  > > > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings 
  are 
  > > edge 
  > > > on right now. They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) 
  at 
  > > the 
  > > > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
  > > probably 
  > > > still pretty good come that weekend?
  > > > 
  > > > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up 
  some 
  > > > interest.
  > > > 
  > > > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during 
  the 
  > > off-
  > > > season.
  > > > 
  > > > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night. If we 
  > could 
  > > get 
  > > > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
  > > > 
  > > > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
  > > > 
  > > > Mitch Glaze
  > > > 
  > > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
  > wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko 
  for 
  > > Comet 
  > > > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28? It's almost 40 degrees 
  > up 
  > > in 
  > > > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days. I would be willing to 
  > help 
  > > at 
  > > > either Powell or Warko. I know that Saturday is our GM and 
  that 
  > > it 
  > > > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
  > worth 
  > > a 
  > > > shot. It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look 
  like 
  > > an 
  > > > interesting one.
  > > > > 
  > > > > Rick Henderson
  > > > > 
  > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > > > >
  > > >
  > >
  >


  


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Joe,

If you need help on Friday at Warko, let me know and I'll come over.

Rick Henderson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Wright 
  To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [ASKC] Comet Lulin and Public Outreach


  I'm game to open the Warko on Friday night.

  


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Yes, I did rant about it last month, and yes, I'm up for it.  Note 
that 2/27 is booked (birthday party, covered by Trentman/Young).  So 
we're talking Saturday 2/28, opposite the GM.  I concur with Rick 
that this is more important.

So far we have, I think: Glaze, Henderson, Manifold -- anybody else?

Who does news releases?  Carroll?


Jay


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> Don't think it was Jay... just saying..
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of
> glaze_m
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach
> 
>  
> 
> Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
> So, are you game for Feb 27/28?
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Jay 
Manifold"
> <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > I concur; see http://tech.
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> > 
> > Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "glaze_m"
> <mglaze@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick,
> > > 
> > > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings 
are 
> > edge 
> > > on right now. They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) 
at 
> > the 
> > > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> > probably 
> > > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > > 
> > > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up 
some 
> > > interest.
> > > 
> > > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during 
the 
> > off-
> > > season.
> > > 
> > > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night. If we 
> could 
> > get 
> > > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > > 
> > > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > > 
> > > Mitch Glaze
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko 
for 
> > Comet 
> > > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28? It's almost 40 degrees 
> up 
> > in 
> > > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days. I would be willing to 
> help 
> > at 
> > > either Powell or Warko. I know that Saturday is our GM and 
that 
> > it 
> > > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
> worth 
> > a 
> > > shot. It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look 
like 
> > an 
> > > interesting one.
> > > > 
> > > > Rick Henderson
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I asked a few friends and one of them recommended: 

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?
Redir=1&description=Belkin-MAC%2FHP4%2B+LASERPRINTER+CBL+MINIDIN8M%
2FDB9-Cables&dpno=951663 

You'll probably have to copy/paste that and get rid of line breaks.

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stuart riley" <nx925@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
> I just dug through my cable and connectors, I have a 
> 6-pin DIN to DB9 but not your 8 pin DIN. You are welcome
> to use it if you can adapt it.
> 
> -Stuart
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a cable:
> > 
> > 8 Pin DIN to DB-9.
> > 
> > It controls the PictureTel camera.  This will allow pan, tilt, 
zoom and 
> > focus by the computer. 
> > 
> > Electronic Supply didn't have it.
> > 
> > Anyone know who might? 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Joe
> >
>

Roster so far: Manifold, Neuenschwander, Riley

The more the merrier!


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stuart riley" <nx925@...> wrote:
>
> Jay,
> 
> I just got back from NYC and I am just catching up on the groups 
posts.
> You can add me to one of the one's supporting the private group 
> for the scouts.  I'll bring my 14.5 Starmaster to get some much
> needed photons.
> 
> -Stuart
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm hoping a few others feel like celebrating Al's 130th the 
same 
> > way, because this turns out to be a Scout troop with something 
like 
> > 40 in attendance (kids + adults).  Need 1 other helper minimum 
and 3 
> > would be better -- 4 groups of 10 apiece could be rotated 
between 
> > classroom, dome, constellations, and LCT.
> > 
> > I have e-mailed the Scoutmaster with sunset time and other 
pertinent 
> > info.  Suggested start time is 7:30 PM CDT.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Einstein's birthday.  Can't think of anything else I'd rather 
do.  
> > Put 
> > > me down for this one too ... who/how big is the group?
> > > 
> > > Jay
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a request for a paying group for March 14. I won't 
book 
> > it 
> > > unless I have a volunteer(s) to staff it. The staff assigned 
> > already 
> > > has a night that week.
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I was out on my deck this morning at 5:30.  Light haze and random clouds, but the comet was easy to pick out with 10x50 binos from my backyard next to Lowes.  Just a nice hazy ball.  It will be interesting to try with the scope one morning that it clears up. 



-Scott 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 7:06:54 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] comet 






Eric Flecher, Jay Manifold, Mitch Glaze and I obsrved the comet and Saturn this morning. Not spectacular but interesting. Mitch and I thought we could see a hint of a tail but then we have great imaginations. 

The limit switch DID NOT WORK on closing and I had to stop the shutter with the drum switch. 

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 My offer still stands.
David Neuenschwander


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 3:09 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach























    

            
Yes, I did rant about it last month, and yes, I'm up for it.  Note 

that 2/27 is booked (birthday party, covered by Trentman/Young).  So 

we're talking Saturday 2/28, opposite the GM.  I concur with Rick 

that this is more important.



So far we have, I think: Glaze, Henderson, Manifold -- anybody else?



Who does news releases?  Carroll?



Jay





 

    
  

    

           
  
    
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Private night 12 scouts and 4 adults
Saturday February 7, 2009
6:30 pm - 10:30 pm

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Thanks for opening up Powell to get a better look see at Comet Lulin.
(I did see it in the morning next to the double star)

That was fun.
Many thanks for meeting me down there . Jay Manifold, Mitch, David Young and I  got up early in the balmy weather to meet at Powell.  The after full moon did not bother us and the clouds stayed away for good observing.

Comet Lulin was visible in the big scope with its faint green coma and a tiny discernable nucleus. I did not see the small tail even with the filter. We also looked and it with the big binoculars. We could see how much is moved within the 1.5 hours we were there.  

We also saw 3 bright satellites too , (not the ISS) .

Also a nice look at Saturn with the rings edge on.

I took some pictures through my canon and though the scope. While I can see some stars on the digital photo I don't see any comet - I am still trying to doctor it.

That's a good ideas for an outreach to see the comet (it will brightest on 24th- we shall see how bright it gets). 




Eric Flescher


7c. Re: Saturday morning
    Posted by: "Jay Manifold" jaymanifold@earthlink.net jay_manifold
    Date: Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:30 pm ((PST))

Civil twilight begins at 6:51 AM.  We'd probably better be there by 
6 if we want to have any chance of seeing it.

I'll go if Eric still wants to.  Otherwise, not.

Clear sky clock still looks really good, though.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "glaze_m" <mglaze@
...> wrote:
>
> I'm a definite maybe ..... 
> What is the expected rendevous time?
> Weather forecast I'm seeing is calling for winds to ~30mph and 40% 
> cloud cover......  
> 
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 







 







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No We START at 7:15 P.M.� �Not about 7:15 p.m.
�Clear Skies and Smooth Roads,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <dyoung8@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:14:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: CM and Dues


We haven't met at union station for over a year. The board meets at the 
Rockhust Community Center at the southeast corner of 54th and Troost. We 
start at about 7:15

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stuart riley" <nx925@.... com>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: CM and Dues

> Joe,
> For those of us who usually aren't in town or have access to the web,
> can you kindly tell us where the club meets? Last I heard, it was
> held at Union Station.
> -Stuart
>




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Joe, 

I think I have the cabel you need.  I left a voice mail on your cell. 

Charles

-- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a cable:
> 
> 8 Pin DIN to DB-9.
> 
> It controls the PictureTel camera.  This will allow pan, tilt, zoom 
and 
> focus by the computer. 
> 
> Electronic Supply didn't have it.
> 
> Anyone know who might? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

What's the name (and contact information if possible) of the company we used
to resurface the Warko Mirror?  And how small of a mirror will they work
with?

Thanks,
Leif


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Joe might remember. I could drive you there but that probably won't help. 
The mirror guy also has a reputation of taking a long, long, long, long, 
long, long, long time.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leif Bahl" <leifbahl@...>
To: "ASKC newsgroup" <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Mirror re-surfacing


> What's the name (and contact information if possible) of the company we 
> used
> to resurface the Warko Mirror?  And how small of a mirror will they work
> with?
>
> Thanks,
> Leif
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Don't know who did the Warko mirror, but you might try Optic Wave 
Labs - http://www.opticwavelabs.com/ - they recoated my 12" 
Lightbridge mirror a few months ago, did a great job and reasonable 
price. They can also test the mirror and refigure it if needed.

-Marty

At 03:10 PM 2/8/2009, Leif Bahl wrote:
>What's the name (and contact information if possible) of the company we used
>to resurface the Warko Mirror?  And how small of a mirror will they work
>with?
>
>Thanks,
>Leif


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Somewhat interesting concept in article currently being featured 
prominently on Yahoo! News:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_new_zealand_embracing_the_dark

Jay

Mirror Coatings


Optical Mechanics
James Mulherin
Iowa City, Iowa

http://www.opticalmechanics.com/index.html

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angela Epps 
  To: dyoung8@... 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:59 AM
  Subject: ASKC question


  David,
  I am looking for a volunteer to come speak in my class regarding telescopes and their operation.  I have an advanced astronomy class the last hour of the school day...MTW starts at 2pm, F starts at 1:30pm all days ending at 3pm.

  Do you know of anyone that might be willing to come out to Olathe North High School to speak to my students and help us (me) with the PROPER operation of our scopes (celestron w/ Nextar...two 4 inch and one 10 inch AND a Dopsonian ).

  Let me know your thoughts or if you can put me in contact with someone.
  Thanks!

  P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. 
     
  Angela Epps
  21st Century Geoscience Program Facilitator/Educator
  Olathe District Schools

  Olathe North High School
  600 E. Prairie Olathe, Kansas 66061

  913-780-7140-school
  913-780-7837-fax
  aeppson@... 
  38° 53' 15"N, 94° 48' 29"W

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jacob, Tessa 
To: dyoung8@... 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: Request for Star viewing at Iron Woods Park - April 25th


David -   Our Troop is camping out at the cabins at Iron Woods Park in Leawood Kansas on Saturday, April 25th. (147th and Mission Road)  We were interested in having someone from your organization come out to our event with a large telescope to talk to the troop about the stars...etc. and also let the girls have a chance to view.   I appreciate your willingness to try and locate someone.

Thank you.




       
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      Senior Counsel
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David,
I can do this presentation, if no one else has volunteered.

John 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Angela Epps 
>   To: dyoung8@... 
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:59 AM
>   Subject: ASKC question
> 
> 
>   David,
>   I am looking for a volunteer to come speak in my class regarding 
telescopes and their operation.  I have an advanced astronomy class 
the last hour of the school day...MTW starts at 2pm, F starts at 
1:30pm all days ending at 3pm.
> 
>   Do you know of anyone that might be willing to come out to 
Olathe North High School to speak to my students and help us (me) 
with the PROPER operation of our scopes (celestron w/ Nextar...two 4 
inch and one 10 inch AND a Dopsonian ).
> 
>   Let me know your thoughts or if you can put me in contact with 
someone.
>   Thanks!
> 
>   P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. 
>      
>   Angela Epps
>   21st Century Geoscience Program Facilitator/Educator
>   Olathe District Schools
> 
>   Olathe North High School
>   600 E. Prairie Olathe, Kansas 66061
> 
>   913-780-7140-school
>   913-780-7837-fax
>   aeppson@... 
>   38° 53' 15"N, 94° 48' 29"W
> 
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I covered this event a couple of years ago w/Sterling & at least 1 
other ASKCer I can't remember right now.  Will gladly do it again.  
Additional volunteers are more than welcome.  Be prepared for a 
large number of 10-year-old girls bouncing up and down while 
shouting "ARE YOU THE ASTROMONER [sic]?!" and for the troop leaders 
to express dissatisfaction with Leawood city park regulations 
forbidding alcohol.

Sky on 4/25/2009 from Leawood: sunset 8:06 PM CDT; moonset 9:16 PM 
CDT; waxing crescent with 1% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

Planets: Mercury(!), near Pleiades; Saturn

Jay

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Message
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Jacob, Tessa 
> To: dyoung8@... 
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: Request for Star viewing at Iron Woods Park - April 25th
> 
> 
> David -   Our Troop is camping out at the cabins at Iron Woods 
Park in Leawood Kansas on Saturday, April 25th. (147th and Mission 
Road)  We were interested in having someone from your organization 
come out to our event with a large telescope to talk to the troop 
about the stars...etc. and also let the girls have a chance to 
view.   I appreciate your willingness to try and locate someone.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>        
>       Tessa K. Jacob  
>       Senior Counsel
>       Husch Blackwell Sanders LLP>
>       4801 Main Street, Suite 1000
>       Kansas City, MO  64112
>       Direct Phone: 816.983.8233
>       Direct Fax: 816.983.8080
>       E-Mail: tessa.jacob@...
>       Website: www.huschblackwell.com
> 
> 
>      
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I can come to this.
Sounds fun, I guess in some way any way.
John 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> I covered this event a couple of years ago w/Sterling & at least 1 
> other ASKCer I can't remember right now.  Will gladly do it 
again.  
> Additional volunteers are more than welcome.  Be prepared for a 
> large number of 10-year-old girls bouncing up and down while 
> shouting "ARE YOU THE ASTROMONER [sic]?!" and for the troop 
leaders 
> to express dissatisfaction with Leawood city park regulations 
> forbidding alcohol.
> 
> Sky on 4/25/2009 from Leawood: sunset 8:06 PM CDT; moonset 9:16 PM 
> CDT; waxing crescent with 1% of the Moon's visible disk 
illuminated.
> 
> Planets: Mercury(!), near Pleiades; Saturn
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > Message
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Jacob, Tessa 
> > To: dyoung8@ 
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:41 AM
> > Subject: Request for Star viewing at Iron Woods Park - April 25th
> > 
> > 
> > David -   Our Troop is camping out at the cabins at Iron Woods 
> Park in Leawood Kansas on Saturday, April 25th. (147th and Mission 
> Road)  We were interested in having someone from your organization 
> come out to our event with a large telescope to talk to the troop 
> about the stars...etc. and also let the girls have a chance to 
> view.   I appreciate your willingness to try and locate someone.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >       Tessa K. Jacob  
> >       Senior Counsel
> >       Husch Blackwell Sanders LLP>
> >       4801 Main Street, Suite 1000
> >       Kansas City, MO  64112
> >       Direct Phone: 816.983.8233
> >       Direct Fax: 816.983.8080
> >       E-Mail: tessa.jacob@
> >       Website: www.huschblackwell.com
> > 
> > 
> >      
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

have at it John.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Benz" <jdbenzrph@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: : ASKC question


David,
I can do this presentation, if no one else has volunteered.

John

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Angela Epps
>   To: dyoung8@...
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:59 AM
>   Subject: ASKC question
>
>
>   David,
>   I am looking for a volunteer to come speak in my class regarding
telescopes and their operation.  I have an advanced astronomy class
the last hour of the school day...MTW starts at 2pm, F starts at
1:30pm all days ending at 3pm.
>
>   Do you know of anyone that might be willing to come out to
Olathe North High School to speak to my students and help us (me)
with the PROPER operation of our scopes (celestron w/ Nextar...two 4
inch and one 10 inch AND a Dopsonian ).
>
>   Let me know your thoughts or if you can put me in contact with
someone.
>   Thanks!
>
>   P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
>   Angela Epps
>   21st Century Geoscience Program Facilitator/Educator
>   Olathe District Schools
>
>   Olathe North High School
>   600 E. Prairie Olathe, Kansas 66061
>
>   913-780-7140-school
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Yahoo! Groups Links

David,

You're right... you brought it up, Jay, chimed in.  Kudos to you both 
for discussing this a month ago.

So, are you game to help at Powell that night?
Feb 28, Sat.  You probably have to be at the GM?

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dfox@...> wrote:
>
> Don't think it was Jay... just saying..
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of
> glaze_m
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach
> 
>  
> 
> Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
> So, are you game for Feb 27/28?
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Jay 
Manifold"
> <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > I concur; see http://tech.
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> > 
> > Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "glaze_m"
> <mglaze@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick,
> > > 
> > > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings 
are 
> > edge 
> > > on right now. They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) 
at 
> > the 
> > > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> > probably 
> > > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > > 
> > > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up 
some 
> > > interest.
> > > 
> > > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during 
the 
> > off-
> > > season.
> > > 
> > > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night. If we 
> could 
> > get 
> > > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > > 
> > > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > > 
> > > Mitch Glaze
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko 
for 
> > Comet 
> > > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28? It's almost 40 degrees 
> up 
> > in 
> > > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days. I would be willing to 
> help 
> > at 
> > > either Powell or Warko. I know that Saturday is our GM and that 
> > it 
> > > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
> worth 
> > a 
> > > shot. It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like 
> > an 
> > > interesting one.
> > > > 
> > > > Rick Henderson
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

"and for the troop leaders to express dissatisfaction with Leawood 
city park regulations forbidding alcohol."

That will severely cut back on volunteers!

Mitch


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Manifold" <jaymanifold@...> wrote:
>
> I covered this event a couple of years ago w/Sterling & at least 1 
> other ASKCer I can't remember right now.  Will gladly do it again.  
> Additional volunteers are more than welcome.  Be prepared for a 
> large number of 10-year-old girls bouncing up and down while 
> shouting "ARE YOU THE ASTROMONER [sic]?!" and for the troop leaders 
> to express dissatisfaction with Leawood city park regulations 
> forbidding alcohol.
> 
> Sky on 4/25/2009 from Leawood: sunset 8:06 PM CDT; moonset 9:16 PM 
> CDT; waxing crescent with 1% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.
> 
> Planets: Mercury(!), near Pleiades; Saturn
> 
> Jay
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@> wrote:
> >
> > Message
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Jacob, Tessa 
> > To: dyoung8@ 
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:41 AM
> > Subject: Request for Star viewing at Iron Woods Park - April 25th
> > 
> > 
> > David -   Our Troop is camping out at the cabins at Iron Woods 
> Park in Leawood Kansas on Saturday, April 25th. (147th and Mission 
> Road)  We were interested in having someone from your organization 
> come out to our event with a large telescope to talk to the troop 
> about the stars...etc. and also let the girls have a chance to 
> view.   I appreciate your willingness to try and locate someone.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >       Tessa K. Jacob  
> >       Senior Counsel
> >       Husch Blackwell Sanders LLP>
> >       4801 Main Street, Suite 1000
> >       Kansas City, MO  64112
> >       Direct Phone: 816.983.8233
> >       Direct Fax: 816.983.8080
> >       E-Mail: tessa.jacob@
> >       Website: www.huschblackwell.com
> > 
> > 
> >      
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Put me down as..  (as needed)  
 
If you need me, I'll come, maybe someone else can do the Coffee and food for
me at the GM.
 

David M. Fox
Information Systems Manager



  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
glaze_m
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:18 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach



David,

You're right... you brought it up, Jay, chimed in. Kudos to you both 
for discussing this a month ago.

So, are you game to help at Powell that night?
Feb 28, Sat. You probably have to be at the GM?

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "David"
<dfox@...> wrote:
>
> Don't think it was Jay... just saying..
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf 
Of
> glaze_m
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Comet Lulin and Public Outreach
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, Jay.... you were on top of this a month ago....
> So, are you game for Feb 27/28?
> 
> Mitch Glaze
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Jay 
Manifold"
> <jaymanifold@> wrote:
> >
> > I concur; see http://tech.
> <http://tech. <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700>
groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/message/45700
> > 
> > Recommend we nail this down and do a news release.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "glaze_m"
> <mglaze@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rick,
> > > 
> > > I was having similar thoughts but for Saturn, since the rings 
are 
> > edge 
> > > on right now. They wouldn't be quite as good (by the numbers) 
at 
> > the 
> > > end of the month, and I haven't looked up the particulars, but 
> > probably 
> > > still pretty good come that weekend?
> > > 
> > > Maybe we could do a "double whammy" event and really stir up 
some 
> > > interest.
> > > 
> > > Its always nice to get a bonus weekend crowd at Powell during 
the 
> > off-
> > > season.
> > > 
> > > I could help that weekend, even thought its GM night. If we 
> could 
> > get 
> > > 4-6 more, we'd be able to handle a pretty good size crowd.
> > > 
> > > Advertising is alwasys the key to off-season events......
> > > 
> > > Mitch Glaze
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups. <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
com, "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone given any thought to opening Powell and/or Warko 
for 
> > Comet 
> > > Lulin on the weekend of February 27/28? It's almost 40 degrees 
> up 
> > in 
> > > the eastern sky by 9 PM on those days. I would be willing to 
> help 
> > at 
> > > either Powell or Warko. I know that Saturday is our GM and that 
> > it 
> > > would require some advertising and staffing, but it might be 
> worth 
> > a 
> > > shot. It won't be a fantastic comet, but it sure does look like 
> > an 
> > > interesting one.
> > > > 
> > > > Rick Henderson
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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Meade is a hometown company for me, and isn't doing so good.  I caught 
this in the local paper that might be of interest.

They lost 2.8m in the last quarter and fired part of the board and the 
CEO.  Main reason it is of interest, is to be sure to get any support 
sooner than later (manuals, accessories) that have to come from them.

http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2009/02/06/ceo-of-irvine-telescope-company-quits/9056/
Jim

Just got back from a cruise and catching up on all the gab about CM. Plodding through 198 messages.
I live in OKC therefor unable to attend meetings or functions, and don't receive my Cosmic Messenger until three to four weeks after it has been published anyway. If it is posted on line 30 days late I might even get it earlier.
Clive Cadle 




________________________________
From: George Allen <geonjod@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:09:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Cosmic Messenger


I agree that publishing the CM 30 days late is a good idea. I'm not 
certain it couldn't just be posted on the ASKC site immediately. At any 
rate, kudos to the ones that make the CM a great newsletter.
Geo.




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Clouds and moon added to my inability to find the comet this morning. It was spectacular last week when close to the bright star in Libra. This shot is the closest I've found to what I saw:

http://spaceweather.com/submissions/pics/b/Bill-Gucfa-LulinZubenel00547_1233954818.jpg?PHPSESSID=fd813o16aqtp097r65udbb08p6

Really big but faint. The surrounding cloud appeared flattened (fat cigar) to me but this is similar. Nothing like the blue-green tight shots from the pros.

Should only get better!

David Neuenschwander


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The One Minute Astronomer.� I signed up for his mailing list and receive an update about once a week.� Kind of cool...

http://www.oneminuteastronomer.com/
�
~ Cindy 


      

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Found this link on the 'One Minute Astronomer' website...
http://www.lightbuckets.com/
You rent time time on large aperture telescopes around the world.� Free test drives???
Anyone ever heard of Light Buckets before?
�
~ Cindy 


      

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I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting agenda.

Joe

Publish the cm on the web page one month delayed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Agenda


> I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting agenda.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

GM speaker vetting
Comet Lulin PR

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> Publish the cm on the web page one month delayed.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:03 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] Agenda
> 
> 
> > I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting 
agenda.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Joe,

Astro Day has a couple of things I'd like to bring up.

Rick Henderson

---- Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote: 
> I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting agenda.
> 
> Joe

Oooh.  Good one Jay, I had forgotten.  

I second the topic of Comet Lulin and outreach.

Rick Henderson

---- Jay Manifold <jaymanifold@...> wrote: 
> GM speaker vetting
> Comet Lulin PR
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
> >
> > Publish the cm on the web page one month delayed.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> > To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:03 AM
> > Subject: [ASKC] Agenda
> > 
> > 
> > > I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting 
> agenda.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

Astronomy 101 proposal to give away a CD with astronomy freeware to those 
who attend a given number (3?) of Astro 101 sessions. Projected budget 
needs -- less than $50.
Programs to be included would include Cartes du Ceil, and a few others. I 
expect much on-line discussion on which freeware to include if this is 
approved.

This would provide a bit more perceived value to those attending Astro 101, 
and help new people get some no-cost, relatively good quality software to 
explore a lot of aspects of astronomy.

Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Agenda


> I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting agenda.
>
> Joe

One of the Iridiums collided with a Russian satellite yesterday.  It's 
now in several hundred pieces.

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0902/11iridium/

I know this is a mistake to ask... but...

Does ASKC have anyone or any committee doing anything with IYA2009?

jen

At 12:46 PM 2/11/2009, you wrote:

>Astronomy 101 proposal to give away a CD with astronomy freeware to those
>who attend a given number (3?) of Astro 101 sessions. Projected budget
>needs -- less than $50.
>Programs to be included would include Cartes du Ceil, and a few others. I
>expect much on-line discussion on which freeware to include if this is
>approved.
>
>This would provide a bit more perceived value to those attending Astro 101,
>and help new people get some no-cost, relatively good quality software to
>explore a lot of aspects of astronomy.
>
>Kathy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joseph Wright" <<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>jos.wright@...>
>To: "ASKC" <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:03 AM
>Subject: [ASKC] Agenda
>
> > I'll entertain submissions for the Board of Directors meeting agenda.
> >
> > Joe
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Hi Cindy:

Lightbuckets is one of several subscription services. I use another,
Global Rent-A-Scope. You should check out all types of services before
committing to a subscription. I am quite pleased with GRAS, and, in
fact, help out with their science program. 

There is only one reason I use the GRAS subscription service: I do a
lot of science data collecting (visual binaries and variable stars).
GRAS has the scopes of the size I need and the science filters (BVRI
for science) and photometry routines (Photometrica)that make data
collecting a breeze. Service is outstanding. 

For "pretty pictures" I prefer to take my own. But, many users like to
take astrophotos using these services. In fact, if you live in New
York City or are disabled, it may be the only practical way to enjoy
astrophotography. (Enabling disabled observers is one of my major
reasons for supporting GRAS.)

As I understand it, Lightbuckets has some big scopes (as in 24" RC). I
think their US observatory is at New Mexico Skies, just like GRAS.
Both have observatories in Australia. If you need something bigger
than a Melon 300 or a 12.5-16" RC, then they might be what you need.

But, do check costs! The bigger the scope, the more expensive. None
are cheap.

Clear Skies,
Ed Wiley

Links to three of the services. More on GRAS simply because I am more
familiar with them (I run the RAS wiki).

GRAS
http://www.global-rent-a-scope.com/
http://gras.gras.wikispaces.net/ (GRAS Wiki)
http://ras.gras.wikispaces.net/ (RAS, science arm of GRAS)

Lightbuckets
http://www.lightbuckets.com/about.php

SLOOH
http://www.slooh.com/




--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Cindy Chesley <cindylchesley@...> wrote:
>
> Found this link on the 'One Minute Astronomer' website...
> http://www.lightbuckets.com/
> You rent time time on large aperture telescopes around the world.�
Free test drives???
> Anyone ever heard of Light Buckets before?
> �
> ~ Cindy 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

And a nod to Abraham Lincoln.

David N


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Just a reminder that on Tuesday the 24th of Feb, Astronaut Story Musgrave 
will give a lecture in Iola Kansas. 
http://www.bowluscenter.org/index.php?mod=speaker The lecture is at the 
Bowlus Fine Arts Center and there is no admission fee. Miranda will have a 
basketball game that evening so I am going to try to get her there during 
one of the day time school lectures.

Mike Myer 

Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Board of Directors
Thursday February 12, 2009
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm

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Anybody up for Gates or another venue before the board meeting?

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Gates Sounds good!
What time?
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <dyoung8@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: [ASKC] eat?


> Anybody up for Gates or another venue before the board meeting?
> 

We will try to make gates.  I had an unexpected out-patient procedure 
today.  The doctor's visit wasn't routine!

Joe

Don't you just hate that? Take a close look at my nose next time you see me. 
I have a ski jump!

Anybody out there have any use for a transistor checker. Just found it on 
the work bench during the continuing saga of untrashing the garage.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] eat?


> We will try to make gates.  I had an unexpected out-patient procedure
> today.  The doctor's visit wasn't routine!
>
> Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Just received this message. Thought I would pass it along in case it 
is of any interest to anyone here.

________________________________

To:  Astronomical Society of Kansas City members

The Cedar Amateur Astronomers invite you to attend the 2009 North 
Central Region of the Astronomical League convention on May 1 & 2.  
Friday afternoon, May 1, we will visit the 82 ft diameter VLBA radio 
telescope near North Liberty, Iowa, then travel to Optical Mechanics 
Inc in Iowa City, and finally go to our club's Palisades-Dows 
Observatory.  Transportation will not be provided, but there should 
be no problem finding someone to ride with.  Saturday's activities 
will be at the Clarion Hotel in Cedar Rapids.  Our website, www.cedar-
astronomers.org, has the convention Registration Form, reservation 
information for the Clarion Hotel, a preliminary schedule of events, 
a description of the Palisades-Dows Observatory, and maps for the 
locations to be visited.

This notice is being sent to the ALCOR of nearby clubs not in our 
region.  Please forward it to your club members who have an email 
address, and maybe even mention it at your next club meeting.

John Centala, ALCOR
Cedar Amateur Astronomers
phone (319) 377-0125
home address:  701 Heather Court, Marion, Iowa 52302
club address:  PO Box 10786, Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52410-0786 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /Southwest_Planetarium.pdf 
  Uploaded by : jos.wright <jos.wright@...> 
  Description : Planetarium Open House 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/Southwest_Planetarium.pdf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

jos.wright <jos.wright@...>
 

I just uploaded a flyer for the Southwest High School' s Planetarium 
Open House  (file: Southwest_Planetarium) to the ASKC Yahoo e-groups. 

Rita and I will be attending the event as well as helping Bob Riddle 
with some of the displays and telescopes.  Come on out and enjoy the 
evening and maybe give a hand.  This is a very nice planetarium.

Hope to see you there!!!

Joe


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Thanks for the upload Joe. I'll be there.

Gary

--- In ASKC@...m, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I just uploaded a flyer for the Southwest High School' s Planetarium 
> Open House  (file: Southwest_Planetarium) to the ASKC Yahoo e-groups. 
> 
> Rita and I will be attending the event as well as helping Bob Riddle 
> with some of the displays and telescopes.  Come on out and enjoy the 
> evening and maybe give a hand.  This is a very nice planetarium.
> 
> Hope to see you there!!!
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have some hp printer cartridges for which I have no use.  First come, 
first get.


45 (hp51645a)  black
44 (hp51644y)  yellow
44 (hp51644c)  cyan

49  tri-color
29  black

78  (hpc6578d) tri-color
41  (hp54641a) tri-color

None of these will certainly fit my hp1055.

I also have some Dell power supplies.


Let me know.

Joe

Check out
http://www.wwu.edu/depts/skywise/astronomy101.html

Under Archeo for some legends and myths, including American Indian.


Good site in general.

Kathy

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does anyone have a fairly high resolution JPG image of the ASKC pin they can send me?   color perferred, but will take a b&w also. 



send it directly to me and don't reply to this message because Yahoo will strip it off. 



send it to    s(dot)kranz1(at)comcast(dot)net 









Thanks!

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Joe, 

I can make use of the 45 and 41 cartridges, if still available.

Mitch Glaze

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I have some hp printer cartridges for which I have no use.  First 
come, 
> first get.
> 
> 
> 45 (hp51645a)  black
> 44 (hp51644y)  yellow
> 44 (hp51644c)  cyan
> 
> 49  tri-color
> 29  black
> 
> 78  (hpc6578d) tri-color
> 41  (hp54641a) tri-color
> 
> None of these will certainly fit my hp1055.
> 
> I also have some Dell power supplies.
> 
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> Joe
>

Mitch:

You got the 41.  45's are gone.
I'm going to try and get the second 1055 running and on the network this 
weekend.

Joe

The 2009 Mid-America Regional Astrophysics Conference will be at Linda Hall Library again this year.
Dates April 3 - 4.
Papers are the afternoon of the 3rd, and on the 4th.
Cost to attend is $10.00 for both days.

The web site link with all the information is at

http://www.physics.ku.edu/marac/marac.shtml

I highly recommend going, if you get the chance!

Kathy Machin



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Thanks Kathy, I plan to go.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>
> The 2009 Mid-America Regional Astrophysics Conference will be at 
Linda Hall Library again this year.
> Dates April 3 - 4.
> Papers are the afternoon of the 3rd, and on the 4th.
> Cost to attend is $10.00 for both days.
> 
> The web site link with all the information is at
> 
> http://www.physics.ku.edu/marac/marac.shtml
> 
> I highly recommend going, if you get the chance!
> 
> Kathy Machin
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yes, thank you Kathy.  I knew there was something I forgot.  The flyer 
is still setting here in the color printer.  I was going to bring it 
with the Southwest papers.

Ooops! 

I hope to attend.  The were scramming to get a venue for the event.  I 
suggest the MidCon convention in Columbia.  What better place while you 
have a group of astronomers.

By the way, Dr. Steve Shaw of KU retired and moved to Tucson.  He is 
originally from the southwest.  Lucky!!!

I have the poster and will upload it to the yahoo file area.

Joe



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Thanks, Joe!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] 2009 MARAC at Linda Hall Library April 3-4


> Yes, thank you Kathy.  I knew there was something I forgot.  The flyer 
> is still setting here in the color printer.  I was going to bring it 
> with the Southwest papers.
> 
> Ooops! 
> 
> I hope to attend.  The were scramming to get a venue for the event.  I 
> suggest the MidCon convention in Columbia.  What better place while you 
> have a group of astronomers.
> 
> By the way, Dr. Steve Shaw of KU retired and moved to Tucson.  He is 
> originally from the southwest.  Lucky!!!
> 
> I have the poster and will upload it to the yahoo file area.
> 
> Joe

Thanks all.  I got a design I can use. 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "s kranz1" <s.kranz1@...> 
To: "!_askc" <askc@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:36:21 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] ASKC pin design 








does anyone have a fairly high resolution JPG image of the ASKC pin they can send me?   color perferred, but will take a b&w also. 

send it directly to me and don't reply to this message because Yahoo will strip it off. 

send it to    s(dot)kranz1(at)comcast(dot)net 

Thanks! 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /MARAC09.pdf 
  Uploaded by : jos.wright <jos.wright@...> 
  Description : MidAmerican Regional Astrophysics Conference Flier 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/MARAC09.pdf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

jos.wright <jos.wright@...>
 

Scott,

If you got a good one, would you upload it to
the Files area for other members' use, please?

Thanks,

John C


--- Scott Kranz wrote:
> 
> Thanks all. I got a design I can use. 
> ...
> does anyone have a fairly high resolution JPG
> image of the ASKC pin they can send me? color
> perferred, but will take a b&w also. 
> 
> send it directly to me and don't reply to this
> message because Yahoo will strip it off. 
> 
> send it to s(dot)kranz1(at)comcast(dot)net 
> 
> Thanks! 

Joe,

I could use the 78 Tri-color if still available.

Doug Spalding

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> I have some hp printer cartridges for which I have no use.  First come, 
> first get.
> 
> 
> 45 (hp51645a)  black
> 44 (hp51644y)  yellow
> 44 (hp51644c)  cyan
> 
> 49  tri-color
> 29  black
> 
> 78  (hpc6578d) tri-color
> 41  (hp54641a) tri-color
> 
> None of these will certainly fit my hp1055.
> 
> I also have some Dell power supplies.
> 
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> Joe
>

Joe-

 

You know that A PC power supplies make a great 120AC to DC converter.

You can get 5,7,12,10,17 and 23 DC Volts out of one .  And it's easy!!!

 

Hint... tie the green wire to a black and the Power supply will turn on...  

Google it or email me for more info.

 

 

-Dave

 

  _____  

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Wright
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:53 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Cartridges & Power Supplies

 

Mitch:

You got the 41. 45's are gone.
I'm going to try and get the second 1055 running and on the network this 
weekend.

Joe





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Dave:

These are the bricks for dell laptops, not desktop power supplies.

Joe

Two designs of the pin are now in the files area.  One is a drawn design.  The other is more photgraphic-like. 



-Scott 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Cravens" <John.Cravens@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:56:24 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: ASKC pin design 






Scott, 

If you got a good one, would you upload it to 
the Files area for other members' use, please? 

Thanks, 

John C 

--- Scott Kranz wrote: 
> 
> Thanks all. I got a design I can use. 
> ... 
> does anyone have a fairly high resolution JPG 
> image of the ASKC pin they can send me? color 
> perferred, but will take a b&w also. 
> 
> send it directly to me and don't reply to this 
> message because Yahoo will strip it off. 
> 
> send it to s(dot)kranz1(at)comcast(dot)net 
> 
> Thanks! 




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Cartridges will be at next GM.

Joe

Is there anyone out there using Netscape to get mail?

Thanks,

Joe

I found a resistor/capacitor substitution box. It's used for those little gizmo projects. You turn a rotarty switch to select a variety of resistor values and another rotary swtich to select a variety of capacitors. I haven't used it in years. If you are a tinkerer this might be for you.

Oh yeah.....free

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I'll take it if it's still available David.

Gary

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>
> I found a resistor/capacitor substitution box. It's used for those 
little gizmo projects. You turn a rotarty switch to select a variety of 
resistor values and another rotary swtich to select a variety of 
capacitors. I haven't used it in years. If you are a tinkerer this 
might be for you.
> 
> Oh yeah.....free
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'll add it to the GM pile. I also found a phase rotation meter and a 
battery powered megohm meter. I don't need to pre-set rotation on 3 phase 
motors any more but that megger has possibilites as an entertaining device 
to use with the squirrels that are raiding the seut feeder.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: more stuff


> I'll take it if it's still available David.
>
> Gary
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "David Young" <dyoung8@...> wrote:
>>
>> I found a resistor/capacitor substitution box. It's used for those
> little gizmo projects. You turn a rotarty switch to select a variety of
> resistor values and another rotary swtich to select a variety of
> capacitors. I haven't used it in years. If you are a tinkerer this
> might be for you.
>>
>> Oh yeah.....free
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

David:

Let me know when you find an extra flux capacitor rated at 1.5 
gigawatts?  My Delorian is need of one.

Joe

My garage is a resevoir of a nearly infinite variety of man made objects. I 
found two more amp meters and three ohm meters. I'll keep those since I use 
the amp meters to test motors. The ohm meters are useful both for 
insullation to ground and continuity tests. The ohm meters are also great to 
use as water level meters.

Who knows what will turn up in the continuing adventure of discovery as I 
continue the excavation of the work bench.

I was going to use the mig welder on a little project but someone left the 
argon bottle turned on. I had to use the blue monster to weld the arm on the 
limit switch cam. I have enough stuff sorted out that I was able to actually 
get the pickup backed into the garage and hoist the welder into the back! 
Next thing you know Marcia will be wanting to park a car in there!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: more stuff


> David:
>
> Let me know when you find an extra flux capacitor rated at 1.5
> gigawatts?  My Delorian is need of one.
>
> Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

DAVE:

WE NEED TO GO TO BED EARLIER.  I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON DRAWINGS AS YOU 
CAN TELL BY THE CAP LOCK BEING ON.  SOMETIMES I MISS DRAFTING AND 
ARCHITECTURAL LETTERING.  FINALLY GOT ALL THE COMPUTERS ON THE SAME 
WORKGROUP NETWORK.  EACH ONE GETS A BACKUP OF IMPORTANT FILES.  
SLYTHERIN HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO BREACH THE MOST RECENT BARRICADE BETWEEN 
THE BASEMENT AND THE GARAGE.  I HEAR HER TRYING!

RITA AND I TALKED TO THE LEVY'S TONIGHT.  THEY GOT A COUPLE INCHES OF 
SNOW THE OTHER NIGHT.  COMES DOWN, MAKES THING PRETTY FOR A WHILE AND 
DISAPPEARS WITHOUT A BUNCH OF SLUSH.  I LIKE THAT. 



BY THE WAY, WHILE DOING A CODE REVIEW, I FOUND AN INTERESTING SECTION IN 
THE NEC...

STATES THAT EVEN IN AREAS OF NO CODE ENFORCEMENT BY JURISDICTION, THE 
CODE MAY BE USED BY "INSURANCE INSPECTORS",  REFERRING TO THE KNOWN 
STANDARD OF PRACTICE. 

JOE

Maybe one of you can help---

Back in 1999, when I was even more ignorant about astronomy than I am
now, my wife was pregnant w/our fifth(and final) child.  We were using
one of those cheap babies names booklets and found a name that was
supposedly the name of the FIFTH star in some constellation.  That
seemed pretty appropriate, so we chose it(or some form of it at
least).  The name we gave her is "Carinne".  I have had no success in
confirming this name(or something similar to it) as the Epsilon star
of a constellation.
Any ideas?

thanks,
Grant Miller