I want to thank everyone who came out to powell last night, it was fun. To bad clouds and freezing rain cut the evening short.




--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> It's still above 50 degrees and the sky is clear at 9:30. David Brackey.,
> Steve King. Mike Sterling, John Fitzgerald are taking an occaisional peek
> at things. It's warm in here. Jupiter is a little fuzzy but what the heck.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We attended the hockey game last night. Mavericks vs Texas Brahmas. The
score was 1 to 1 going into the last three minutes. At about one and a half
minutes the Mavericks scored and held the Brahmas to a 2 to 1 victory. A
really exciting game.

Happy 2012 to everyone.

Gary Pittman


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I went to a boxing match last night and a. Hokey game broke out.
Happy New Year to you and Linda as well as everyone else in the ASKC.
Johnny
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...> wrote:

> We attended the hockey game last night. Mavericks vs Texas Brahmas. The
> score was 1 to 1 going into the last three minutes. At about one and a half
> minutes the Mavericks scored and held the Brahmas to a 2 to 1 victory. A
> really exciting game.
> 
> Happy 2012 to everyone.
> 
> Gary Pittman
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


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I have the above item in my garage.   It belongs to my ex, who was not going
to use it anymore.    In the months to come, I will actively be trying to
sell it for him.     Right now, the mirror needs re-coating.     The wood
will be all renovated soon.    

 

This telescope traveled the USA, used to show the public the night sky.
The mirror is a excellent one.    It has no electronic finding systems, but
will come with the ladder, finder scope, and 3 eyepieces.   

 

If you ever wanted to own a large telescope, this might be your time.   

 

Contact me via email, or home phone - 913-469-0135.

 

Thanks!

 

Jackie Beucher

Overland Park, Ks.



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Figure out what it's really worth and maybe the ASKC can find a use for it.
On Jan 2, 2012 9:51 AM, "Jackie Beucher" <m31@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have the above item in my garage. It belongs to my ex, who was not going
> to use it anymore. In the months to come, I will actively be trying to
> sell it for him. Right now, the mirror needs re-coating. The wood
> will be all renovated soon.
>
> This telescope traveled the USA, used to show the public the night sky.
> The mirror is a excellent one. It has no electronic finding systems, but
> will come with the ladder, finder scope, and 3 eyepieces.
>
> If you ever wanted to own a large telescope, this might be your time.
>
> Contact me via email, or home phone - 913-469-0135.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jackie Beucher
>
> Overland Park, Ks.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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If you all get a taste for 25" Obsessions out there in StarMaster land and one is not enough, I know where there is one all decked out and ready to go.
Just get ahold of me and I will fix you up 

Sent from my iPad

Dan

http://www.space.com/14092-quadrantid-meteor-shower-peaks-january-4.html

Quadrantid meteor shower is expected to put on a spectacular light show,
with no pesky moonlight to interfere. The peak of the Quadrantids will
occur at around 2 a.m. EST (0700 GMT) on Jan. 4.


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I ran Stellarium for moon location  for the meteor shower - (substact
approximately 10 degrees per hour)

- 37 degrees in the West at midnight
- 3 degrees at 3 a.m. (peak time in KC area)



On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:23 AM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@...> wrote:

> http://www.space.com/14092-quadrantid-meteor-shower-peaks-january-4.html
>
> Quadrantid meteor shower is expected to put on a spectacular light show,
> with no pesky moonlight to interfere. The peak of the Quadrantids will
> occur at around 2 a.m. EST (0700 GMT) on Jan. 4.
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

12 Must-See Skywatching Events in 2012

http://www.livescience.com/17706-12-amazing-skywatching-events-2012.html


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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
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Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
there for a few hours till about 4 am

I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.

As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
fool around.  We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.

Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
said they stopped by specifically to see it.

Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
and wave - this was awesome!

There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
were leaving.

My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
so did the cops. Was fun times.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Iggy,

 

Thanks for the report.  I was wondering if anyone braved the weather and the
early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.

 

My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
IggyKC@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th,
peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC

 

  

Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
there for a few hours till about 4 am

I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.

As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.

Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
said they stopped by specifically to see it.

Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
and wave - this was awesome!

There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
were leaving.

My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
so did the cops. Was fun times.

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Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants plus
sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks did
the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your hands.
Wasn't too bad.

 I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)



On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:

> Iggy,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the report.  I was wondering if anyone braved the weather and
> the
> early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
>
>
>
> My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
>
>
>
> Rick Henderson
>
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> IggyKC@...
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th,
> peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
>
>
>
>
>
> Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
> there for a few hours till about 4 am
>
> I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
> weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
> from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
> clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
> a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
>
> As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
> to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
> fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
> brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
> cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
> long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
> and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
>
> Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
> checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
> said they stopped by specifically to see it.
>
> Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
> gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
> orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
> and wave - this was awesome!
>
> There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
> as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
> were leaving.
>
> My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
> so did the cops. Was fun times.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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That also explains the hot tea.  ;^)

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
>
> Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants plus
> sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks did
> the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your hands.
> Wasn't too bad.
> 
>  I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
> 
> > Iggy,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the report.  I was wondering if anyone braved the weather and
> > the
> > early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
> >
> >
> >
> > My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > IggyKC@...
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th,
> > peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
> > there for a few hours till about 4 am
> >
> > I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
> > weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
> > from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
> > clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> > areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
> > a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
> >
> > As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
> > to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
> > fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> > himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> > watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
> > brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
> > cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
> > long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
> > and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
> >
> > Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
> > checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> > Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
> > said they stopped by specifically to see it.
> >
> > Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> > Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
> > gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
> > orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
> > and wave - this was awesome!
> >
> > There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
> > as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
> > were leaving.
> >
> > My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
> > so did the cops. Was fun times.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > database 6768 (20120104) __________
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> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
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One of the benefits of living in America has been fruit teas. When I was
growing up in Russia I recall there just one type of tea "black Ceylon"
(Indian tea). I am sure there were others but this is all my parents used
to buy and maybe it was all that was available due to shortages. Raspberry
and Lemon Zinger flavors add to the stargazing experience.



On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> That also explains the hot tea.  ;^)
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
> >
> > Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants plus
> > sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks did
> > the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your
> hands.
> > Wasn't too bad.
> >
> >  I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
> >
> > > Iggy,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the report.  I was wondering if anyone braved the weather
> and
> > > the
> > > early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Henderson
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > IggyKC@...
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> > > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan
> 4th,
> > > peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and
> stayed
> > > there for a few hours till about 4 am
> > >
> > > I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to
> watch the
> > > weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
> > > from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
> > > clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> > > areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
> > > a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
> > >
> > > As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to
> Louisberg
> > > to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just
> to
> > > fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> > > himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> > > watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart
> as he
> > > brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!)
> Was
> > > cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering
> for a
> > > long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location
> while S
> > > and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
> > >
> > > Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
> > > checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> > > Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor
> shower and
> > > said they stopped by specifically to see it.
> > >
> > > Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> > > Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by
> the
> > > gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was
> glaring
> > > orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges
> dance
> > > and wave - this was awesome!
> > >
> > > There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it
> rose and
> > > as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it
> as we
> > > were leaving.
> > >
> > > My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some
> and
> > > so did the cops. Was fun times.
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> signature
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> > >
> > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> > >
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I'm happy to see you and your son making good use of club facilities Iggy.

Gary Pittman

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> One of the benefits of living in America has been fruit teas. When I was
> growing up in Russia I recall there just one type of tea "black Ceylon"
> (Indian tea). I am sure there were others but this is all my parents used
> to buy and maybe it was all that was available due to shortages. Raspberry
> and Lemon Zinger flavors add to the stargazing experience.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
>
> > That also explains the hot tea. ;^)
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants
> plus
> > > sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks
> did
> > > the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your
> > hands.
> > > Wasn't too bad.
> > >
> > > I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Iggy,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the report. I was wondering if anyone braved the weather
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rick Henderson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > IggyKC@...
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> > > > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan
> > 4th,
> > > > peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and
> > stayed
> > > > there for a few hours till about 4 am
> > > >
> > > > I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to
> > watch the
> > > > weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving
> in
> > > > from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of
> the
> > > > clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> > > > areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about
> 1:30-2
> > > > a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
> > > >
> > > > As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to
> > Louisberg
> > > > to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just
> > to
> > > > fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> > > > himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> > > > watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart
> > as he
> > > > brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling
> (literally!)
> > Was
> > > > cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering
> > for a
> > > > long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location
> > while S
> > > > and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
> > > >
> > > > Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and
> also
> > > > checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> > > > Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor
> > shower and
> > > > said they stopped by specifically to see it.
> > > >
> > > > Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> > > > Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by
> > the
> > > > gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was
> > glaring
> > > > orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges
> > dance
> > > > and wave - this was awesome!
> > > >
> > > > There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it
> > rose and
> > > > as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it
> > as we
> > > > were leaving.
> > > >
> > > > My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw
> some
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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

private night
Friday January 6, 2012
7:00 pm - 11:00 pm

Notes:
Tami Gilchrist 816-204-5369
4 adults


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Kathy, 



Will you be at the Board Meeting next Thursday? 



If so, please bring mine along. 



Thanks! 

-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 2:39:33 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Herschel Club T-shirts 

  




I have the Herschel Club T-shirts that a few Herschel Club awardees ordered. 

Cost - $12 if delivered at the Christmas party or at a later ASKC event (not 
a "get it right now" thing, yet) 

$16 including mailing/packaging/postage costs. 

Checks should be made out to the ASKC. 

You can send to me or hand deliver - we are planning on being at the 
Christmas party Saturday Dec 10 and expect to be at most general meetings, 
too. 

Thanks, 

Kathy Machin 




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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...> wrote:

> I'm happy to see you and your son making good use of club facilities Iggy.
>


My wife tells me that my son and I can move into the observatory if we
spend too much time out stargazing :o)


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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Private night
Saturday January 7, 2012
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm

Notes:
Jackie Qualizza jackie@...
(T) (913) 397-9400 or (800) 523-8351(F) (913) 397-9410(c) (816) 520-2759
Steve King, David Brackey


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There is a private night scheduled for this Friday January 6. Anyone out
there want to help out with this night?


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Many of us guys here have to earn SPU's (Spousal Permission Units) to get out on a monthly basis to observe! 



Do some extra chores around the house. Do laundry. Do the dishes. Take her out for supper. 



yeah, yeah, yeah.... it works the other way too! 


all in fun 



-Scott 




----- Original Message -----


From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:24:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th, peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC 

  




On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gary Pittman < yrag1919@... > wrote: 

> I'm happy to see you and your son making good use of club facilities Iggy. 
> 

My wife tells me that my son and I can move into the observatory if we 
spend too much time out stargazing :o) 

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I did not know that a high school here in town has a planetarium. Check
this group out if you are interested in science meetings.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jim emery <jdemery1@...>
Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM
Subject: STEM Society Meeting at Southwest High School
To: jdemery1@...


Our meetings are held normally on the second Tuesday of the month
at the Trailside Center at 99th and Holmes. However, this month is
a rare exception and we are meeting at the Southwest High School
planetarium. The meeting will start as usual at 6PM. Southwest
High School is at 6512 Wornall Road in Kansas City, Missouri.
Parking is to the west of the building.

To get to the parking lot turn west from Wornall Road onto 66th
Terrace. The planetarium is a modern addition at the southeast
corner of the building. To enter walk from the parking lot along
the south side of the building to doors located on the south side
and toward the front. We will see the remodelled planetarium and
have discussion on long distance learning of science on the
internet, and a planetarium show.

The meeting will be hosted by Craig Nulan, Tom Brenneman, and Dave
Anstaett of the Kansas City Missouri School system. Tom Brenneman
was formally with the Blue Valley CAPS project as I understand. So
we will also discuss the possibility of a CAPS East project in
Missouri.

Associate Professor John Hoopes, an Archaeologist in the
department of Anthropology at the University of Kansas will speak
also. His research areas are: Archaeology, human ecology, ceramic
analysis, digital and Internet applications; Southern Central
America, Mesoamerica, South America.

hoopes@..., Fraser Hall, number 629, (785) 864-2638 2

Because we will be in a planetarium, time permitting, I will
deliver a a little talk on Kepler�s laws of planetary motion, and
the mathematical method Kepler used to compute the elliptical
planetary orbits. We will also present a brief overview of the
kinds of topics we present at our stem society meetings. Recall
that last month we had a talk on Parkinson�s disease and an
overview of the nervous system. There were other topics that were
introduced briefly, and which we did not deal with very well, and
so deserve more devotion. As I recall some of these were wind
power, and the character of our electrical power system,
specifically concerning the role that grounding plays.
Unfortunately, I have not yet put up on stem2.org the notes for
the last meeting, but I shall do that, probably later today. Here
are Craig Nulans remarks concerning this planetarium meeting:



"It would honestly be an understatement to call it a planetarium
anymore though it leverages the domed ceiling to produce a truly
unique set of sensory effects. It is the second of its kind
installation in the U.S., and will become a showpiece and
destination point for many school districts across the city when
it comes fully online next year. While there, we would also like
to show you one of our distance learning labs and briefly explain
the why and how of these facilities use both to leverage scarce
exceptional teaching resources, and, as a lynchpin content source
for our one-to-one endpoint initiative. This field trip would
afford you an opportunity to get better acquainted with my boss
Tom Brenneman (who is with no exaggeration on my part, the most
qualified, astute, and visionary superior I've had in 27 years of
IT service work) and our Instructional Technology Manager Dave
Anstaett who is the driving force behind expert instruction in the
distance learning environment. Dave has been a teacher for 43
years and is one of the most highly regarded creative writing and
English teachers in the U.S. I have been truly blessed to be
associated with these two gentlemen. Our collaboration is yielding
tremendous results, that are to a great extent overshadowed by the
political follies swirling around the District at this time. I
believe that making introductions given many of our shared
objectives might be one of the most effective means available to
us of catalyzing additional highly focused effort to accomplish
the aims of the CAPS-East initiative. Tom Brenneman built the
entire IT infrastructure on which CAPS depends before coming to
undertake the profound challenges of IT in the Kansas City Public
Schools earlier this year. I see would love to see Tom 3 playing a
role in this proposed development at the Bannister Federal Complex
below, as well - and I think it only makes sense that the
CAPS-East team leverage his detailed knowledge and experience of
costs, lessons-learned, etc - from the original CAPS installation
in Blue Valley. I see all of this coming together in helping to
foster and promote a Smart Community. In any event, I promise you
a most enjoyable experience in the planetarium at SWECC, and I
hope that you will be amenable to this offer. When I hear back
from you, I�ll get the ball rolling on my side to make
arrangements to make it so. What I envision for the evening�s
program will be a Distance Learning Lab demo and talk by Dave
Anstaett on his experiences with Distance Learning and one-to-one
computing - over the course of his career which is nearly as long
as I�ve been alive - Dave has worked with all strata of students,
but for the last several years with the most challenging students
of all - and I think his insights are little known, eye-opening,
and quite profound. We�ll wind up the evening with a show or two
in the planetarium and some casual discussion."

STEM Society Website:

http://www.stem2.org


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Does the club still sell pieces of the Badder film solar material? 



Sizes? Prices? 



-Scott 

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I want some too. Maybe Rita will have some at the GM meeting. I askd her 
about it at the Nov. meeting.

Jim
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From: <s.kranz1@...>
To: "!_askc" <askc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:34 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Solar viewing material





Does the club still sell pieces of the Badder film solar material?



Sizes? Prices?



-Scott

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I was able to view the meteors from my back yard (in town) Wed AM.� As my new house in the country is not quite finished I viewed from town between 4 AM and 5:30 AM and counted 22.� Some were quite bright.� All and all a pretty good show!����
Am looking forward to the March Messier Marathon and getting to see my fellow observers at the DSS.����
Debi

----- Original Message -----
From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:49 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th, peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC

Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
there for a few hours till about 4 am

I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.

As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
fool around.� We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.

Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
said they stopped by specifically to see it.

Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
and wave - this was awesome!

There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
were leaving.

My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
so did the cops. Was fun times.


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Hey Starmaster owners (and anyone else who might use these batteries),

About 3 weeks ago I stopped in and bought a 12v 7Ah battery from Battery Plus. It was $36 plus tax! The best price I could find on Amazon was $22 plus $10 shipping.

I was in Tractor Supply Company here in Belton this afternoon and found the same battery for $19.95.

Apparently some brands of deer feeders use the same size battery? There was deer mineral blocks and deer food all around the area.

Anyway, if you are in need of a spare battery, this is a good place to pick them up.

Oh and remember to recycle your old dead batteries. Battery Plus does take them.

-Scott

Maybe I still have some Minnesotan blood in me, but I don't have too many probelms with cold weather as long as the wind isn't blowing.

I typically wear thermal long-johns and jeans. Over the feet I have thin socks and wool socks inside thick rubber soled hiking boots. If the frost gets really heavy, I have 2-buckle rubber boots that I put on that gives more insulation from the ground.

On top, I wear a thermal long-sleeve shirt, a long-sleeve t-shirt, and a thick heavy pull-over hoodie. Most of the time, that will do it. If that's not enough, I have a light wind breaker that is good at retaining heat that I put on over that.

An absolute MUST is some kind of neck-gator and a hood. I have a neck-gator that is more like a wide dickey that works great.

I then wear freezer gloves inside fingerless gloves.

-Scott


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
>
> Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants plus
> sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks did
> the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your hands.
> Wasn't too bad.
> 
>  I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
> 
> > Iggy,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the report.  I was wondering if anyone braved the weather and
> > the
> > early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
> >
> >
> >
> > My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > IggyKC@...
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan 4th,
> > peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and stayed
> > there for a few hours till about 4 am
> >
> > I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch the
> > weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
> > from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
> > clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> > areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
> > a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
> >
> > As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to Louisberg
> > to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
> > fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> > himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> > watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as he
> > brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!) Was
> > cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for a
> > long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while S
> > and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
> >
> > Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
> > checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> > Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower and
> > said they stopped by specifically to see it.
> >
> > Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> > Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by the
> > gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
> > orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges dance
> > and wave - this was awesome!
> >
> > There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose and
> > as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as we
> > were leaving.
> >
> > My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some and
> > so did the cops. Was fun times.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > database 6768 (20120104) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> 
> 
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>

Scott,

 

What are freezer gloves?  I've never heard of those.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stripe1966
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan
4th, peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC

 

  

Maybe I still have some Minnesotan blood in me, but I don't have too many
probelms with cold weather as long as the wind isn't blowing.

I typically wear thermal long-johns and jeans. Over the feet I have thin
socks and wool socks inside thick rubber soled hiking boots. If the frost
gets really heavy, I have 2-buckle rubber boots that I put on that gives
more insulation from the ground.

On top, I wear a thermal long-sleeve shirt, a long-sleeve t-shirt, and a
thick heavy pull-over hoodie. Most of the time, that will do it. If that's
not enough, I have a light wind breaker that is good at retaining heat that
I put on over that.

An absolute MUST is some kind of neck-gator and a hood. I have a neck-gator
that is more like a wide dickey that works great.

I then wear freezer gloves inside fingerless gloves.

-Scott

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "IggyKC@..."
<iggykc@...> wrote:
>
> Three layers of clothing - Long Johns, sweat and wind breaker pants plus
> sweater, and two fleece jackets and two pairs of regular white socks did
> the trick. Plus, two thermoses of hot tea, the hot cups warm up your
hands.
> Wasn't too bad.
> 
> I am Russian after all, I think you Americans are sissies :o)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
> 
> > Iggy,
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the report. I was wondering if anyone braved the weather and
> > the
> > early morning hours to try and see a few Quadrantids.
> >
> >
> >
> > My intentions were good, but my body did not follow through.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> > IggyKC@...
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:50 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [ASKC] Last Night at Powell - Quadrantid meteor shower - Jan
4th,
> > peaking at 3 a.m. Central Time - no moon interference in KC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Last night my son and I went out to Powell for the meteor shower and
stayed
> > there for a few hours till about 4 am
> >
> > I used http:;//wunderground.com for satellite and IR coverage to watch
the
> > weather and display of 6 frames per session to see the clouds moving in
> > from Nebraska - (a very nifty site, allows you to change opacity of the
> > clouds to match the outside you are at, so you can compare in other
> > areas) As it was clear that clouds were going to dissipate about 1:30-2
> > a.m. at Powell we left home at 12:30.
> >
> > As we arrived at Powell we opened up the 16 inch, my son went to
Louisberg
> > to get some food, while I set up a 10 inch scope on the sidewalk just to
> > fool around. We opened up our thermoses with tea, my son situated
> > himself in a chair in the LCT shed to hide from the wind and sat back
> > watching in NE direction under the handle of Big Dipper. He was smart as
he
> > brought his iPod and listened to his music while chilling (literally!)
Was
> > cloudy N-NE till about 2:30 a.m. with two stubborn clouds lingering for
a
> > long time and opening up and closing in the meteor shower location while
S
> > and W skies were OK, so we explored those with 16 inch and 10 inch.
> >
> > Some young couple (non members) drove in with their telescope and also
> > checked out the meteor shower. We hang out together and talked. Two
> > Louisberg police cars stopped by - they were aware of the meteor shower
and
> > said they stopped by specifically to see it.
> >
> > Using the 16 inch I showed them and the kids and Mars, Moon, Orion
> > Nebula. The cops said that was their first time and they were awed by
the
> > gas clouds in Orion Nebula and Trapezium. Also, the low moon was glaring
> > orange and in the scope the atmospheric disturbances made the edges
dance
> > and wave - this was awesome!
> >
> > There was a cloud on E side preventing us from seeing Saturn as it rose
and
> > as we were wrapping it all up and packing it came up, so we missed it as
we
> > were leaving.
> >
> > My son saw 10-13 meteors, not too heavy of a shower, the kids saw some
and
> > so did the cops. Was fun times.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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signature
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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I'm still trying to sell my 12" Lightbridge. Take a look at my AstroMart 
ad if you're interested: 
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=761112

Would really like to move this so don't be afraid to make me an offer. 
It's a nice scope, I just never use it and it's taking up space.

Contact me by email for more information   martyt (at) pobox.com

-Marty


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The Saturday private party at Powell was cancelled in late afternoon due to thick clouds.  They might try to reschedule later.  

Dave Brackey

Thanks, Dave.  Too bad it was cloudy.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dbrac06
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:52 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] January 7 private party results

 

  

The Saturday private party at Powell was cancelled in late afternoon due to
thick clouds. They might try to reschedule later. 

Dave Brackey





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Hey!  Dave's report woke me up.

 

Have there been any other private nights at Powell?  If so, does anyone have
any attendance figures they could share?

 

Thanks.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Henderson
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:00 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ASKC] January 7 private party results

 

  

Thanks, Dave. Too bad it was cloudy.

Rick Henderson

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
dbrac06
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:52 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [ASKC] January 7 private party results

The Saturday private party at Powell was cancelled in late afternoon due to
thick clouds. They might try to reschedule later. 

Dave Brackey

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My bad. I did a private group for 7 people Friday night.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hey! Dave's report woke me up.
>
> Have there been any other private nights at Powell? If so, does anyone have
> any attendance figures they could share?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Henderson
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:00 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] January 7 private party results
>
>
> Thanks, Dave. Too bad it was cloudy.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
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>
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>
> The Saturday private party at Powell was cancelled in late afternoon due to
> thick clouds. They might try to reschedule later.
>
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And so the 2012 ASKC Outreach Attendance count begins!

Thanks, David and better late than never.  Your are both chastised and
thanked in the same statement.

Anybody else holding attendance information?  Amnesty is still being granted
for late reports.

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:55 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] January 7 private party results

My bad. I did a private group for 7 people Friday night.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Rick Henderson
<rhenderson1@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hey! Dave's report woke me up.
>
> Have there been any other private nights at Powell? If so, does anyone 
> have any attendance figures they could share?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rick Henderson
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:00 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ASKC] January 7 private party results
>
>
> Thanks, Dave. Too bad it was cloudy.
>
> Rick Henderson
>
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>
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> Subject: [ASKC] January 7 private party results
>
> The Saturday private party at Powell was cancelled in late afternoon 
> due to thick clouds. They might try to reschedule later.
>
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Hi folks-

 

Mark your calendars: June 1-3, 2012 is the Mid-States Regional
Astronomical League (MSRAL) conference which the ASKC is hosting.
We will have talks by astrophysicists and workshops for amateur
astronomers. As the details firm up, we will update
www.MSRAL.org.

 

If you want to participate with an exciting team in the planning
or execution of this conference, drop me a note. All input,
energy and enthusiasm are always most welcome. Stay tuned!

 

--Eric Bogatin

Chair, MSRAL conference

Eric@...

 

 



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Good luck with everything! 



I'll be out of town. 



-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Eric Bogatin" <eric@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: eric@..., "Gary Pittman" <yrag1919@gmail.com>, Carroll-Iorg@... 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:35:23 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] MSRAL June 1-3, 2012 

  




Hi folks- 

Mark your calendars: June 1-3, 2012 is the Mid-States Regional 
Astronomical League (MSRAL) conference which the ASKC is hosting. 
We will have talks by astrophysicists and workshops for amateur 
astronomers. As the details firm up, we will update 
www.MSRAL.org. 

If you want to participate with an exciting team in the planning 
or execution of this conference, drop me a note. All input, 
energy and enthusiasm are always most welcome. Stay tuned! 

--Eric Bogatin 

Chair, MSRAL conference 

Eric@... 

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I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to take the scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a friend call and tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air tonight makes it look as though it is blinking different colors. It looks pretty neat tonight.

Ha!   I was just out there earlier noting the same thing.    It is just
beautiful!   Take a look, everyone..

 

Jackie B.

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dale67.cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:37 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Sirius color

 

  

I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to take the
scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a friend call and
tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air tonight makes it look as
though it is blinking different colors. It looks pretty neat tonight.





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 You are right about the twinkling being from something in the air. And Sirius is a particularly showy example of this since it's the brightest star in Earth's sky (after the sun). Turbulence in the atmosphere creates the effect. The fancy word is scintillation.

This gives one helpful way to identify the planets. The stars are so far away that they only present a point to the eye, so are more prone to twinkle. Planets are close enough to show a disk which smooths out the twinkling. Stars scintillate, planets shine much more steadily. But even Venus will scintillate in really cruddy skies.

Here's a link with more detail:

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz664.htm

atoptics.co.uk is a favorite website. I think you'll enjoy surfing there, it's got lots of info about atmospheric optical effects and great pics & diagrams. And since you're inside anyway...

Enjoy,

David Neuenschwander



 -----Original Message-----
 From: dale67.cameron <dale.cameron@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 8:37 pm
Subject: [ASKC] Sirius color


  
    
                  
I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to take the scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a friend call and tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air tonight makes it look as though it is blinking different colors. It looks pretty neat tonight.


    
             

  
 


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Just observed Sirius in binoculars from my deck - spectacular dance of red,
white, blue colors.



On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM, David Neuenschwander <
david9660@...> wrote:

>
>
>  You are right about the twinkling being from something in the air. And
> Sirius is a particularly showy example of this since it's the brightest
> star in Earth's sky (after the sun). Turbulence in the atmosphere creates
> the effect. The fancy word is scintillation.
>
> This gives one helpful way to identify the planets. The stars are so far
> away that they only present a point to the eye, so are more prone to
> twinkle. Planets are close enough to show a disk which smooths out the
> twinkling. Stars scintillate, planets shine much more steadily. But even
> Venus will scintillate in really cruddy skies.
>
> Here's a link with more detail:
>
> http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz664.htm
>
> atoptics.co.uk is a favorite website. I think you'll enjoy surfing there,
> it's got lots of info about atmospheric optical effects and great pics &
> diagrams. And since you're inside anyway...
>
> Enjoy,
>
> David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: dale67.cameron <dale.cameron@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 8:37 pm
> Subject: [ASKC] Sirius color
>
>
>
>
>
> I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to take
> the scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a friend
> call and tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air tonight makes it
> look as though it is blinking different colors. It looks pretty neat
> tonight.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Definitely a big-time twinkle!
Got the blue and white, not the red.
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dale67.cameron" <dale.cameron@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:37 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Sirius color


>I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to take 
>the scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a friend 
>call and tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air tonight makes it 
>look as though it is blinking different colors. It looks pretty neat 
>tonight.

Okay, I'm heading out to close up the solar scopes and will have to take 
a look without the filters.
There were some really, really cool prominences today.  One lead into 
the filament.

Joe


David Neuenschwander wrote:
>
>
>
> You are right about the twinkling being from something in the air. And 
> Sirius is a particularly showy example of this since it's the 
> brightest star in Earth's sky (after the sun). Turbulence in the 
> atmosphere creates the effect. The fancy word is scintillation.
>
> This gives one helpful way to identify the planets. The stars are so 
> far away that they only present a point to the eye, so are more prone 
> to twinkle. Planets are close enough to show a disk which smooths out 
> the twinkling. Stars scintillate, planets shine much more steadily. 
> But even Venus will scintillate in really cruddy skies.
>
> Here's a link with more detail:
>
> http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fz664.htm
>
> atoptics.co.uk is a favorite website. I think you'll enjoy surfing 
> there, it's got lots of info about atmospheric optical effects and 
> great pics & diagrams. And since you're inside anyway...
>
> Enjoy,
>
> David Neuenschwander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dale67.cameron <dale.cameron@... 
> <mailto:dale.cameron%40att.net>>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 8:37 pm
> Subject: [ASKC] Sirius color
>
> I noticed the stars twinkling quite a bit tonight. I decided not to 
> take the scope out tonight because of that and the moon. I just had a 
> friend call and tell me to look at Sirius. Something in the air 
> tonight makes it look as though it is blinking different colors. It 
> looks pretty neat tonight.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

Anyone care to do this? We can squeeze a small group in at Powell on the
17th.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...>
Date: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Subject: Webelos Troop 312
To: "askc_powell_reservations@..." <askc_powell_reservations@...>


 Dear Sirs,

Would it be possible for someone to meet with my Webelos on Tuesday, January
17th either at Powell Observatory, Messiah Lutheran School (in
Independence) or some place else.  (there are 4 boys) We are working on our
Astronomy Pin requirements.  We usually meet at 6:45 but we can certainly
flex.

Warmest Regards,
Joseph Peterson
Den Leader; 312
816-808-7168


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In case this hasn't been forwarded out to our group yet....

For those interested in the Mid America Regional Astrophysics Conference (MARAC) -
They have set the dates for 2012 and have moved it to a different venue.

April 13/14, KU campus in Lawrence, KS.

Thanks,
Cindy

Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Barbara J Anthony-Twarog <bjat@...>
>> Date: January 10, 2012 2:06:35 PM CST
>> To: <MARAC@...>
>> Subject: change / save the date for MARAC 2012
>> Reply-To: MARAC@...
>> 
>> After some local recon and discussion, we have reserved meeting space on
>> the KU Lawrence campus for MARAC 2012 on the dates Friday/Saturday April
>> 13 and 14, 2012.  For those of you who haven't visited our lovely
>> campus, Lawrence is about 40 miles west of Kansas City.  We will
>> communicate soon about logistics, but this change will make it easier to
>> retain the opportunity to present oral talks for those who still prefer
>> to, will give us a bit more time to work with and less stringent time
>> constraints than Linda Hall Library.  The change of date alleviates one
>> major conflict for some of our local astronomers; we devoutly hope we
>> haven't created too many new conflicts.  
>> 
>> We'll be working on a whole new set of logistics and will communicate
>> further in coming weeks.  
>> 
>> As always, unless you really WANT to communicate with the entire midwest
>> astronomical community, don't hit reply but instead address an email to
>> bjat at ku.edu.
>> 
>> bjat for the other KU astronomers (who are all at the AAS)
>> 


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i will put in the feb and mar cm.
On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Cindy Chesley wrote:

>
> In case this hasn't been forwarded out to our group yet....
>
> For those interested in the Mid America Regional Astrophysics  
> Conference (MARAC) -
> They have set the dates for 2012 and have moved it to a different  
> venue.
>
> April 13/14, KU campus in Lawrence, KS.
>
> Thanks,
> Cindy
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> >> From: Barbara J Anthony-Twarog <bjat@...>
> >> Date: January 10, 2012 2:06:35 PM CST
> >> To: <MARAC@ku.edu>
> >> Subject: change / save the date for MARAC 2012
> >> Reply-To: MARAC@...
> >>
> >> After some local recon and discussion, we have reserved meeting  
> space on
> >> the KU Lawrence campus for MARAC 2012 on the dates Friday/ 
> Saturday April
> >> 13 and 14, 2012. For those of you who haven't visited our lovely
> >> campus, Lawrence is about 40 miles west of Kansas City. We will
> >> communicate soon about logistics, but this change will make it  
> easier to
> >> retain the opportunity to present oral talks for those who still  
> prefer
> >> to, will give us a bit more time to work with and less stringent  
> time
> >> constraints than Linda Hall Library. The change of date  
> alleviates one
> >> major conflict for some of our local astronomers; we devoutly  
> hope we
> >> haven't created too many new conflicts.
> >>
> >> We'll be working on a whole new set of logistics and will  
> communicate
> >> further in coming weeks.
> >>
> >> As always, unless you really WANT to communicate with the entire  
> midwest
> >> astronomical community, don't hit reply but instead address an  
> email to
> >> bjat at ku.edu.
> >>
> >> bjat for the other KU astronomers (who are all at the AAS)
> >>
>
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Gary Pittman

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Cindy Chesley <cindylchesley@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> In case this hasn't been forwarded out to our group yet....
>
> For those interested in the Mid America Regional Astrophysics Conference
> (MARAC) -
> They have set the dates for 2012 and have moved it to a different venue.
>
> April 13/14, KU campus in Lawrence, KS.
>
> Thanks,
> Cindy
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> >> From: Barbara J Anthony-Twarog <bjat@...>
> >> Date: January 10, 2012 2:06:35 PM CST
> >> To: <MARAC@...>
> >> Subject: change / save the date for MARAC 2012
> >> Reply-To: MARAC@...
> >>
> >> After some local recon and discussion, we have reserved meeting space on
> >> the KU Lawrence campus for MARAC 2012 on the dates Friday/Saturday April
> >> 13 and 14, 2012. For those of you who haven't visited our lovely
> >> campus, Lawrence is about 40 miles west of Kansas City. We will
> >> communicate soon about logistics, but this change will make it easier to
> >> retain the opportunity to present oral talks for those who still prefer
> >> to, will give us a bit more time to work with and less stringent time
> >> constraints than Linda Hall Library. The change of date alleviates one
> >> major conflict for some of our local astronomers; we devoutly hope we
> >> haven't created too many new conflicts.
> >>
> >> We'll be working on a whole new set of logistics and will communicate
> >> further in coming weeks.
> >>
> >> As always, unless you really WANT to communicate with the entire midwest
> >> astronomical community, don't hit reply but instead address an email to
> >> bjat at ku.edu.
> >>
> >> bjat for the other KU astronomers (who are all at the AAS)
> >>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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http://www.space.com/14200-160-billion-alien-planets-milky-galaxy.html


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Wow.

Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.

Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week. Actually
work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the time.
My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
IggyKC@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:30 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our Milky
Way Galaxy

http://www.space.com/14200-160-billion-alien-planets-milky-galaxy.html


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I will be serving as keyholder for a very small group (2 people) at the indicated date & time.  Anyone wishing to get some informal training on procedures is invited to join me.

Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of sight
to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi direct
angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule -
hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
them.

Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or more
densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates were
equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came from
the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one would
assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.

*Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
researchers said.*
*
*
*Plus*
*
*
*Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to discover a
huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound to
a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal" alien
worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to the
2011 study.*
*
*
As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has no
practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as we
are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.



On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart <AB0VM@...> wrote:

> Wow.
>
> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
>
> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week. Actually
> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
> time.
> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
>
> Mike
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This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on 
observation of the planetary body via direct means.

All of the exoplanets we have by other methods relied on detecting the 
planet when it passed between the earth and the star it orbited and 
affecting the light curve.

This method would work because the star + planet affects a body beyond 
the star + planet system.  Therefore the planet doesn't have to occult 
the star it orbits for it to be detected.

The novelty they claim is that their method detected multiplanet systems 
rather than something like star + big planet like Jupiter.

We needed a guess as to how many systems exist with many planets in 
order to get any guess as to how many system could have earthlike planets.

The statistical method is as useful as any to estimate the number of 
systems.  Right now that is all we have for a lot of astronomical values 
we use.

On 1/11/2012 7:07 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
> Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of sight
> to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi direct
> angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule -
> hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
> originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
> them.
>
> Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
> understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or more
> densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates were
> equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came from
> the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
> distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one would
> assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
> assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.
>
> *Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
> explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
> researchers said.*
> *
> *
> *Plus*
> *
> *
> *Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to discover a
> huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound to
> a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal" alien
> worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to the
> 2011 study.*
> *
> *
> As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has no
> practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as we
> are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart<AB0VM@...>  wrote:
>
>> Wow.
>>
>> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
>> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
>>
>> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week. Actually
>> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
>> time.
>> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
>>
>> Mike
>>
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>> IggyKC@...
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>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our
>> Milky
>> Way Galaxy
>>
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Does that mean we may have a new celestial threat to watch for ...  those 
incoming free-flying "rogue" planets you described below.  ;-)  dt


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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our 
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> This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
> observation of the planetary body via direct means.
>
> All of the exoplanets we have by other methods relied on detecting the
> planet when it passed between the earth and the star it orbited and
> affecting the light curve.
>
> This method would work because the star + planet affects a body beyond
> the star + planet system.  Therefore the planet doesn't have to occult
> the star it orbits for it to be detected.
>
> The novelty they claim is that their method detected multiplanet systems
> rather than something like star + big planet like Jupiter.
>
> We needed a guess as to how many systems exist with many planets in
> order to get any guess as to how many system could have earthlike planets.
>
> The statistical method is as useful as any to estimate the number of
> systems.  Right now that is all we have for a lot of astronomical values
> we use.
>
> On 1/11/2012 7:07 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
>> Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of sight
>> to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi direct
>> angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule -
>> hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
>> originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
>> them.
>>
>> Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
>> understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or 
>> more
>> densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates were
>> equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came 
>> from
>> the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
>> distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one would
>> assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
>> assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.
>>
>> *Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
>> explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
>> researchers said.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Plus*
>> *
>> *
>> *Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to discover a
>> huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound 
>> to
>> a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal" alien
>> worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to the
>> 2011 study.*
>> *
>> *
>> As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has no
>> practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as 
>> we
>> are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart<AB0VM@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.
>>>
>>> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
>>> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
>>>
>>> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week. 
>>> Actually
>>> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
>>> time.
>>> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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>>> IggyKC@...
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>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our
>>> Milky
>>> Way Galaxy
>>>
>>> http://www.space.com/14200-160-billion-alien-planets-milky-galaxy.html
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On top of the rogue planets there are hyper velocity stars that not
gravitationally bound to each other that are flying around at speeds
unimaginable to us. It appears there maybe many of them as they maybe
produced by gravitational interactions of binary stars coming into contact
with black holes or other stars nearby. They are flung out of their
surroundings at huge speeds. You don't want one of these puppies to come by
Earth or our Solar system.

Check this out... On a positive side, looks like watching them move through
the Milky Way can give us a good idea of the distribution of dark matter
through lensing.

http://www.livescience.com/search.html?cx=partner-pub-1894578950532504%3Aqaei7k190hq&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=ISO-8859-1&sa=&q=hypervelocity+star





On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:52 PM, D Trentman <dtrent@...> wrote:

> Does that mean we may have a new celestial threat to watch for ...  those
> incoming free-flying "rogue" planets you described below.  ;-)  dt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim s" <jws@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our
> Milky Way Galaxy
>
>
> > This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
> > observation of the planetary body via direct means.
> >
> > All of the exoplanets we have by other methods relied on detecting the
> > planet when it passed between the earth and the star it orbited and
> > affecting the light curve.
> >
> > This method would work because the star + planet affects a body beyond
> > the star + planet system.  Therefore the planet doesn't have to occult
> > the star it orbits for it to be detected.
> >
> > The novelty they claim is that their method detected multiplanet systems
> > rather than something like star + big planet like Jupiter.
> >
> > We needed a guess as to how many systems exist with many planets in
> > order to get any guess as to how many system could have earthlike
> planets.
> >
> > The statistical method is as useful as any to estimate the number of
> > systems.  Right now that is all we have for a lot of astronomical values
> > we use.
> >
> > On 1/11/2012 7:07 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
> >> Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of
> sight
> >> to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi direct
> >> angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule -
> >> hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
> >> originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
> >> understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or
> >> more
> >> densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates
> were
> >> equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came
> >> from
> >> the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
> >> distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one would
> >> assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
> >> assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.
> >>
> >> *Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
> >> explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
> >> researchers said.*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *Plus*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> *Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to discover
> a
> >> huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound
> >> to
> >> a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal"
> alien
> >> worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to
> the
> >> 2011 study.*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has no
> >> practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as
> >> we
> >> are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart<AB0VM@...>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow.
> >>>
> >>> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
> >>> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
> >>>
> >>> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week.
> >>> Actually
> >>> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
> >>> time.
> >>> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
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> >>> Milky
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Amazing Astronomy Illustrations From the 1800s Resurface Online

Recently digitized drawings by a 19th-century artist reveal stunning
sunspots, auroras and even planetary bodies as they were observed in the
Victorian era.

www.livescience.com/17861-trouvelot-astronomy-illustrations.html


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Here is the link to pictures -
http://www.livescience.com/17862-gallery-astronomy-art-trouvelot.html


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:47 AM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@...> wrote:

> Amazing Astronomy Illustrations From the 1800s Resurface Online
>
> Recently digitized drawings by a 19th-century artist reveal stunning
> sunspots, auroras and even planetary bodies as they were observed in the
> Victorian era.
>
> www.livescience.com/17861-trouvelot-astronomy-illustrations.html
>


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On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:52 PM, "D Trentman" <dtrent@...> wrote:

> Does that mean we may have a new celestial threat to watch for ...  those 
> incoming free-flying "rogue" planets you described below.  ;-)  dt
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jim s" <jws@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our 
> Milky Way Galaxy
> 
> 
>> This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
>> observation of the planetary body via direct means.
>> 
>> All of the exoplanets we have by other methods relied on detecting the
>> planet when it passed between the earth and the star it orbited and
>> affecting the light curve.
>> 
>> This method would work because the star + planet affects a body beyond
>> the star + planet system.  Therefore the planet doesn't have to occult
>> the star it orbits for it to be detected.
>> 
>> The novelty they claim is that their method detected multiplanet systems
>> rather than something like star + big planet like Jupiter.
>> 
>> We needed a guess as to how many systems exist with many planets in
>> order to get any guess as to how many system could have earthlike planets.
>> 
>> The statistical method is as useful as any to estimate the number of
>> systems.  Right now that is all we have for a lot of astronomical values
>> we use.
>> 
>> On 1/11/2012 7:07 PM, IggyKC@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of sight
>>> to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi direct
>>> angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule -
>>> hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
>>> originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
>>> understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or 
>>> more
>>> densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates were
>>> equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came 
>>> from
>>> the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
>>> distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one would
>>> assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
>>> assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.
>>> 
>>> *Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
>>> explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
>>> researchers said.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Plus*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to discover a
>>> huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound 
>>> to
>>> a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal" alien
>>> worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to the
>>> 2011 study.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has no
>>> practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as 
>>> we
>>> are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart<AB0VM@...>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Wow.
>>>> 
>>>> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
>>>> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
>>>> 
>>>> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week. 
>>>> Actually
>>>> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
>>>> time.
>>>> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> IggyKC@...
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:30 PM
>>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our
>>>> Milky
>>>> Way Galaxy
>>>> 
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At the American Astronomical Society meetings at Austin, Texas recently, a paper was presented that reveals the color of our Milky Way is white.  I have lost much sleep over this quandary, but now the issue is settled.  

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:37 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> Three hundred thousand trillion humanoids may exist in the Universe.  No
> "study" was done for this fact, I just figured it out by myself, but I do
> guarantee the veracity of the results.




This above got me thinking about how different scientific process is from
"figuring things out by oneself". Assumably, the age of armchair
philosophers/scientists ended some time ago. It takes teams of people to
solve problems, hardly a single astronomer today can analyze mountains of
data. And of course, it has to be peer reviewed before published in let'
say "Nature".

And it may take them years and years of research - in this case 6 years.
 Yet, this theoretical work builds up grounds for future discoveries. Far
from amature nature of gentlemen scientists in the past

Planet Population Is Plentiful: Planets Around Stars Are the Rule Rather
Than the Exception
*An international team has used the technique of gravitational microlensing
to measure how common planets are in the Milky Way. After a six-year search
that surveyed millions of stars, the team concludes that planets around
stars are the rule rather than the exception.*

A. Cassan, D. Kubas, J.-P. Beaulieu, M. Dominik, K. Horne, J. Greenhill, J.
Wambsganss, J. Menzies, A. Williams, U. G. Jørgensen, A. Udalski, D. P.
Bennett, M. D. Albrow, V. Batista, S. Brillant, J. A. R. Caldwell, A. Cole,
Ch. Coutures, K. H. Cook, S. Dieters, D. Dominis Prester, J. Donatowicz, P.
Fouqué, K. Hill, N. Kains, S. Kane, J.-B. Marquette, R. Martin, K. R.
Pollard, K. C. Sahu, C. Vinter, D. Warren, B. Watson, M. Zub, T. Sumi, M.
K. Szymański, M. Kubiak, R. Poleski, I. Soszynski, K. Ulaczyk, G.
Pietrzyński, Ł. Wyrzykowski. *One or more bound planets per Milky Way star
from microlensing observations*. *Nature*, 2012; 481 (7380): 167 DOI:
10.1038/nature10684 <http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nature10684>

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111154035.htm

















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> On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:52 PM, "D Trentman" <dtrent@att.net> wrote:
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> > Does that mean we may have a new celestial threat to watch for ...  those
> > incoming free-flying "rogue" planets you described below.  ;-)  dt
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jim s" <jws@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in
> Our
> > Milky Way Galaxy
> >
> >
> >> This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
> >> observation of the planetary body via direct means.
> >>
> >> All of the exoplanets we have by other methods relied on detecting the
> >> planet when it passed between the earth and the star it orbited and
> >> affecting the light curve.
> >>
> >> This method would work because the star + planet affects a body beyond
> >> the star + planet system.  Therefore the planet doesn't have to occult
> >> the star it orbits for it to be detected.
> >>
> >> The novelty they claim is that their method detected multiplanet systems
> >> rather than something like star + big planet like Jupiter.
> >>
> >> We needed a guess as to how many systems exist with many planets in
> >> order to get any guess as to how many system could have earthlike
> planets.
> >>
> >> The statistical method is as useful as any to estimate the number of
> >> systems.  Right now that is all we have for a lot of astronomical values
> >> we use.
> >>
> >> On 1/11/2012 7:07 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
> >>> Gravitational micro lensing  can only be observed in direct line of
> sight
> >>> to Earth telescopes or space telescopes. The % of the direct/semi
> direct
> >>> angles from the millions of stars scanned would of course be minuscule
> -
> >>> hence the 40 analyzed. The piece doesn't say how many they actually
> >>> originally considered but it seems that 40 is all they had available to
> >>> them.
> >>>
> >>> Considering that space is more or less uniformed in all directions as I
> >>> understand it and even in the Milky Way with stars in huge clusters or
> >>> more
> >>> densly packed in the center, one would assume that the 40 candidates
> were
> >>> equally distributed? Don't know but seems reasonable. If they all came
> >>> from
> >>> the same area of the sky using the same analogy of more or less equal
> >>> distribution of stars in the Milky Way (again my speculations) one
> would
> >>> assume that if you increase the areas searched you'd have to use
> >>> assumptions of equal star distribution or whatever formula they use.
> >>>
> >>> *Considering how perfectly aligned multiple bodies must be to yield an
> >>> explanet detection via microlensing, that's a pretty impressive haul,
> >>> researchers said.*
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> *Plus*
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> *Last year, a different team used microlensing observations to
> discover a
> >>> huge population of Jupiter-like planets that zoom through space unbound
> >>> to
> >>> a parent star. These free-flying "rogues" likely outnumber "normal"
> alien
> >>> worlds with obvious parent stars by at least 50 percent, according to
> the
> >>> 2011 study.*
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> As it sits right now this is the best estimate there is. Since it has
> no
> >>> practical purpose as of yet, the margin of error is acceptable :o) - as
> >>> we
> >>> are not flying anywhere anytime soon . I can live with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Mike Stewart<AB0VM@...>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Wow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scanned millions of data points. Analyzed "about 40" events, meaning a
> >>>> number less than 40. Discovered three. And that equals 160 billion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lemme try this at home. Clock in for less than 40 hours per week.
> >>>> Actually
> >>>> work during three hours. Look at millions of web pages the rest of the
> >>>> time.
> >>>> My salary should equal $160 billion. Annually. :-]
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >>>> IggyKC@...
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:30 PM
> >>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: [ASKC] New Study - 160 Billion Alien Planets May Exist in Our
> >>>> Milky
> >>>> Way Galaxy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.space.com/14200-160-billion-alien-planets-milky-galaxy.html
> >>>>
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Hope someone maybe interested in this. It is an interesting talk on
intersection of science and intelligent design.

Our Provocateurs group here in town is hosting ASTROPHYSICIST BRIAN THOMAS
tomorrow Friday, Jan 13th - 7 p.m.

Dr. Thomas has come to us twice before and presented two talks -
Introduction to Universe and a paper he recently participated in on Global
Catastrophism.


Please, RSVP here  - registration takes 1 minute -
http://www.meetup.com/ProvocateursAndPeacemakers/events/40936542/


ASTROPHYSICIST BRIAN THOMAS - AN EXPERIMENT ON INTELLIGENT DESIGN

Perkins<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=11200+W.+87th+ST%2C+Overland+Park%2C+KS>

11200 W. 87th ST, Overland Park, KS


Please, RSVP here - registration takes 1 minute -
http://www.meetup.com/ProvocateursAndPeacemakers/events/40936542/


 *ASTROPHYSICIST BRIAN*

*THOMAS*

*� AN EXPERIMENT*

*ON **INTELLIGENT DESIGN*



*What happened when Dr. Thomas used his classroom of future teachers to run
an experiment on their own teachability, specifically to find out what it
takes for them to grasp the definition of science, including its
methodological limitation to the natural world, along with a definition of
Intelligent Design that demands no such limitation?  *

**

Dr. Thomas:  "Intelligent Design" is a modern form of creationism which
takes inspiration from William Paley's 19th century "watch-maker" argument.
 Proponents argue that life is so complex that a creator is necessary.
This movement was most prominent between about 1995 and 2005, but is still
quite alive today (as evidenced by the recent film entitled "Expelled: No
Intelligence Allowed").

A 2005 federal court ruled that attempts to insert ID arguments into a
public school curriculum in Dover, Ohio were unconstitutional and that ID
does not constitute good science. Since then, the creationist strategy has
mostly focused on introducing "critiques" of evolution into curricula.

In 2009 I published a paper in *The Physics Teacher* journal describing *an
in-class discussion activity about the nature of science and the status of
Intelligent Design as a scientific proposal*.  In this talk I will discuss
the activity and some of *the results* of using it in a course on physical
science for elementary education majors.  I'll also make a few comments
about a *more recent version of the study which includes viewing the NOVA
film "Intelligent Design on Trial."*


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Just came across this should be of interest to folks here -

http://www.lindahall.org/about_lhl/cosmology.shtml
The first 2nd Saturday at the Linda Hall Library of 2012 occurs this
Saturday, January 14th. The Library will be open from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.for
you to enjoy a visit to the William N. Deramus III Cosmology Theater and
view the current exhibition, "This Time It's Personal: Innovation in the
Home."  Entirely free and waiting for you.



The Library will be closed Monday, January 16th, in observance of Martin
Luther King Day. Enjoy the weekend!



* Linda Hall Library, 5109 Cherry Street, Kansas City, MO 64110*


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lately ive been so frustrated now I can spend my paychecks however I 
choose I thought I had reached a dead end
http://proisi.com/lastnews/79CarlStewart/ I love not having 
responsibilities anymore
I had to share this with someone

 Sorry for this, been hacked. Is there a way to fix this without changing accounts?

David Neuenschwander

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Neuenschwander <david9660@...>

Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 3:40 am
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Re: Look what i found here


  
    
                  
lately ive been so frustrated now I can spend my paychecks however I 
choose I thought I had reached a dead end
http://proisi.com/lastnews/79CarlStewart/ I love not having 
responsibilities anymore
I had to share this with someone


    
             

  
 


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  I received a call about the event described below yesterday.  This is 
an excerpt (with date changed) from a previous year to help explain the 
event.  I already have a commitment for that morning.  If you can help 
with this, please let me know ASAP.  Basically, you are at a table with 
ASKC/Powell information and answering questions.  This event is just for 
teachers (about 300-350) from a wide area around KC .

If you let me quick enough, I can help you with some handouts and loan 
you some display items.  At the "Meet the Mentor", a similar event for 
students held last year, the ASKC table was one of the most visited tables!

Thanks,

Joe

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Science Pioneers will be hosting a Teachers Day on Saturday, January 
28th, 2012 from 9am-12pm at UMKC Student Union.  This event will feature 
organizations in the Greater Kansas City Area with an interest in 
science education opportunities.



I would like to invite your organization to participate in this event.  
Each organization will have a six-foot table with two chairs.  Field 
experience opportunities, speakers, classroom visits and classroom 
resources from your organization can be displayed.  Teachers attending 
would go from table to table to investigate all of the science 
opportunities available to enhance their curriculum.  There is no charge 
for this table.
We will also be hosting Master Teachers who will be sharing a science 
lesson with other teachers. Participants will receive a copy of all of 
these lessons on a Free Resource CD.

We would also like to put your contact information and available teacher 
support, materials, etc. on the CD.  If you wish this information to be 
put on the CD, please indicate on the attached response form. Please 
email to admin@... an electronic version of any written 
materials you wish included on the CD.  We feel that with all these 
opportunities for teachers that we will have an excellent attendance.  
We anticipate upwards of 300 teachers and pre-service teachers attending.


Looking forward to working with you,



Thank you and Have a Great Day!

Change your password, create a verification to your cell phone or another
e-mail address (change password on it too).



On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM, David Neuenschwander <
david9660@...> wrote:

>
>  Sorry for this, been hacked. Is there a way to fix this without changing
> accounts?
>
> David Neuenschwander
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Neuenschwander <david9660@...>
>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 3:40 am
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Re: Look what i found here
>
>
>
>
>
> lately ive been so frustrated now I can spend my paychecks however I
> choose I thought I had reached a dead end
> http://proisi.com/lastnews/79CarlStewart/ I love not having
> responsibilities anymore
> I had to share this with someone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Private night
Friday January 13, 2012
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm

Notes:
Justin Theleman 785-885-4579
jthelemn@...
jthelemn@...
Jay Manifold


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As mentioned previously, this group (2 people) will arrive around 5:30.  I now intend to get there about 5 to open up.  Anyone wanting some exposure to the procedures is encouraged to attend.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
> 
> Private night
> Friday January 13, 2012
> 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
> 
> Notes:
> Justin Theleman 785-885-4579
> jthelemn@...
> jthelemn@...
> Jay Manifold
> 
> 
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I wish I could make it. I'm covering a High School basketball game today and
won't have time.
 
 
Sorry!
-Brian Davidson 

 


On January 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> As mentioned previously, this group (2 people) will arrive around 5:30.  I now
> intend to get there about 5 to open up.  Anyone wanting some exposure to the
> procedures is encouraged to attend.
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
> >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
> >
> > Private night
> > Friday January 13, 2012
> > 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
> >
> > Notes:
> > Justin Theleman 785-885-4579
> > jthelemn@...
> > jthelemn@...
> > Jay Manifold
> >
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Cool and free NASA iPhone app - Images from Mars

http://www.geekosystem.com/nasa-app-mars-pictures-phone/

From the article:

"If you just can’t keep up with what Mars is doing these days due to the hustle-bustle of your awesome, exciting, too-busy-for-Mars lifestyle, has NASA got the thing for you. Presenting: An iPhone app that sends new pictures of Mars directly to your phone, so you can still be that amateur Martian hunter you’ve always wanted to be, while being an adult and grabbing a coffee on the way to do spreadsheets at the office.
The app is free, so you have no reason not to be a peeping Mars Tom, unless you’re afraid you’ll discover something you really, really didn’t want to know existed. Mars stuff. The images are taken from the MarsOpportunity rover, and you can make however many puns you’d like about the opportunity Opportunity is giving you to check out Mars things. The app is only 0.8 megabytes in size, so it won’t even take up too much space.
Get the app here, and be sure to bring up how Mars landscapes look in all of the discussions you have, now that you’ll have instant access to new pictures of them right in your pocket.
(via Wired)"

Thanks,
Cindy

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Dale Cameron plans to be there.  Again, others are welcome.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> wrote:
>
> I wish I could make it. I'm covering a High School basketball game today and
> won't have time.
>  
>  
> Sorry!
> -Brian Davidson 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On January 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
> 
> > As mentioned previously, this group (2 people) will arrive around 5:30.  I now
> > intend to get there about 5 to open up.  Anyone wanting some exposure to the
> > procedures is encouraged to attend.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
> > >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
> > >
> > > Private night
> > > Friday January 13, 2012
> > > 12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
> > >
> > > Notes:
> > > Justin Theleman 785-885-4579
> > > jthelemn@
> > > jthelemn@
> > > Jay Manifold
> > >
> > >
> > > All Rights Reserved
> > >  Copyright © 2012
> > >  Yahoo! Inc.
> > >  http://www.yahoo.com
> > >
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> > >  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
> > >
> > > Terms of Service:
> > >  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> >
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> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I just received this notice from Jack Dunn, the planetarium director at the
Mueller Planetarium in Lincoln.  Some of you actually met Clyde Tombaugh and
possibly his wife.

Another end of an era.

The story is at:

http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19735534

Rick Henderson

From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:

1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts
2. stops for ~1 minute
3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� below horizontal
4. stops again for ~1 minute
5. continues slewing in Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry, we shut it off before it hit)

This happened 3 times in a row.

From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as far as step 2, above, then does nothing.

So we're working without the computer tonight.  Many thanks to Dale Cameron for assistance.

Joe,
May be interested.  But I have to see if I can move something else to Sunday.  Should know in a few days.
Dave Brackey

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
>   I received a call about the event described below yesterday.  This is 
> an excerpt (with date changed) from a previous year to help explain the 
> event.  I already have a commitment for that morning.  If you can help 
> with this, please let me know ASAP.  Basically, you are at a table with 
> ASKC/Powell information and answering questions.  This event is just for 
> teachers (about 300-350) from a wide area around KC .
> 
> If you let me quick enough, I can help you with some handouts and loan 
> you some display items.  At the "Meet the Mentor", a similar event for 
> students held last year, the ASKC table was one of the most visited tables!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> End of Public Service Announcement
> Please resume normal programming.
> 
> *****************************************************************************************************************************************
> 
> Science Pioneers will be hosting a Teachers Day on Saturday, January 
> 28th, 2012 from 9am-12pm at UMKC Student Union.  This event will feature 
> organizations in the Greater Kansas City Area with an interest in 
> science education opportunities.
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to invite your organization to participate in this event.  
> Each organization will have a six-foot table with two chairs.  Field 
> experience opportunities, speakers, classroom visits and classroom 
> resources from your organization can be displayed.  Teachers attending 
> would go from table to table to investigate all of the science 
> opportunities available to enhance their curriculum.  There is no charge 
> for this table.
> We will also be hosting Master Teachers who will be sharing a science 
> lesson with other teachers. Participants will receive a copy of all of 
> these lessons on a Free Resource CD.
> 
> We would also like to put your contact information and available teacher 
> support, materials, etc. on the CD.  If you wish this information to be 
> put on the CD, please indicate on the attached response form. Please 
> email to admin@... an electronic version of any written 
> materials you wish included on the CD.  We feel that with all these 
> opportunities for teachers that we will have an excellent attendance.  
> We anticipate upwards of 300 teachers and pre-service teachers attending.
> 
> 
> Looking forward to working with you,
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you and Have a Great Day!
>

I think I sent this out before.

Any takers?
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Scarrittpoint <scarrittpoint@...>wrote:

>  Dear Sirs,
> I sent an email on about the 10th of January asking for your assistance in
> my Webelos to earn their Astronomy Pin.  We meet on Tuesdays. Is this
> something you can help us with?
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Joseph Peterson
> 816-808-7168
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>  *From:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...>
> *Date:* January 10, 2012 1:52:02 PM CST
> *To:* "askc_powell_reservations@..." <
> askc_powell_reservations@...>
> *Subject:* *Webelos Troop 312*
> *Reply-To:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...>
>
>   Dear Sirs,
>
> Would it be possible for someone to meet with my Webelos on Tuesday,
> January
> 17th either at Powell Observatory, Messiah Lutheran School (in
> Independence) or some place else.  (there are 4 boys) We are working on
> our Astronomy Pin requirements.  We usually meet at 6:45 but we can
> certainly flex.
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Joseph Peterson
> Den Leader; 312
> 816-808-7168
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In cold weather it might help to put an electric heater in the closet for a
while. I don't think the telescope computer is rated for 20 degrees or less.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:
>
> 1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts
> 2. stops for ~1 minute
> 3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� below
> horizontal
> 4. stops again for ~1 minute
> 5. continues slewing in Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry,
> we shut it off before it hit)
>
> This happened 3 times in a row.
>
> From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as far as
> step 2, above, then does nothing.
>
> So we're working without the computer tonight. Many thanks to Dale Cameron
> for assistance.
>
> 
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I remember doing this stuff when my sons were Webelos.

 

I will help out at Powell if I can get at least one more helper.  If someone
will volunteer to help, I will call the den leader and get things scheduled.

 

One question:  If we meet at Powell do we still charge them a reservation
fee?

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:43 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Troop 312

 

  

I think I sent this out before.

Any takers?
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Scarrittpoint <scarrittpoint@...
<mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >wrote:

> Dear Sirs,
> I sent an email on about the 10th of January asking for your assistance in
> my Webelos to earn their Astronomy Pin. We meet on Tuesdays. Is this
> something you can help us with?
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Joseph Peterson
> 816-808-7168
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
<mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
> *Date:* January 10, 2012 1:52:02 PM CST
> *To:* "askc_powell_reservations@...
<mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> " <
> askc_powell_reservations@...
<mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> >
> *Subject:* *Webelos Troop 312*
> *Reply-To:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
<mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Would it be possible for someone to meet with my Webelos on Tuesday,
> January
> 17th either at Powell Observatory, Messiah Lutheran School (in
> Independence) or some place else. (there are 4 boys) We are working on
> our Astronomy Pin requirements. We usually meet at 6:45 but we can
> certainly flex.
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Joseph Peterson
> Den Leader; 312
> 816-808-7168
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Did the hand controller work correctly?  If so, I suspect, just as David
said, that the computer was complaining about being too cold.

If the hand controller did NOT work correctly then it's probably a very good
time to install the new control system.  Just like we were planning to do!

By the way, the new PC is an industrially rated PC and should be more cold
tolerant.  I think it comes with fleece lined heat sinks...

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Ruisinger 30" Misbehavior

In cold weather it might help to put an electric heater in the closet for a
while. I don't think the telescope computer is rated for 20 degrees or less.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:
>
> 1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts 2. stops for ~1 
> minute 3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� 
> below horizontal 4. stops again for ~1 minute 5. continues slewing in 
> Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry, we shut it off 
> before it hit)
>
> This happened 3 times in a row.
>
> From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as 
> far as step 2, above, then does nothing.
>
> So we're working without the computer tonight. Many thanks to Dale 
> Cameron for assistance.
>
> 
>


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Yahoo! Groups Links

I would love to help out and I was wanting to help out tonight but work got in
the way. I'm also an Eagle Scout and astronomy merit badge counselor.
 
On a side note, have we ever had a boyscout camp out at Powell? The boys can
earn their merit badge and camp out on the grounds or the DSS.
 

 


On January 13, 2012 at 11:09 PM Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@kc.rr.com> wrote:

> I remember doing this stuff when my sons were Webelos.
>
> 
>
> I will help out at Powell if I can get at least one more helper.  If someone
> will volunteer to help, I will call the den leader and get things scheduled.
>
> 
>
> One question:  If we meet at Powell do we still charge them a reservation
> fee?
>
> 
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> 
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Young
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:43 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Troop 312
>
> 
>
>   
>
> I think I sent this out before.
>
> Any takers?
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Scarrittpoint <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Sirs,
> > I sent an email on about the 10th of January asking for your assistance in
> > my Webelos to earn their Astronomy Pin. We meet on Tuesdays. Is this
> > something you can help us with?
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Joseph Peterson
> > 816-808-7168
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > *From:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
> > *Date:* January 10, 2012 1:52:02 PM CST
> > *To:* "askc_powell_reservations@...
> <mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> " <
> > askc_powell_reservations@...
> <mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> >
> > *Subject:* *Webelos Troop 312*
> > *Reply-To:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
> >
> > Dear Sirs,
> >
> > Would it be possible for someone to meet with my Webelos on Tuesday,
> > January
> > 17th either at Powell Observatory, Messiah Lutheran School (in
> > Independence) or some place else. (there are 4 boys) We are working on
> > our Astronomy Pin requirements. We usually meet at 6:45 but we can
> > certainly flex.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Joseph Peterson
> > Den Leader; 312
> > 816-808-7168
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The hand controller worked with no problems. With the computer, the only direction functioning was down. The dome also needed a helping hand pulling on it several times. The temperature was cold. Everybody had a good time and the seeing conditions were excellent. Andromeda was nice. The crab nebula was faint as usual. The dark clouds in Orion were easily seen through the ruisinger. Jupiter's red spot and a transit shadow were perfect viewing through it. Jay showed us a couple of nice iridium flares. One became very bright. The bodes galaxy and cigar galaxy were somewhat washed out by the kc sky, but still very visible. Jay's knowledge of the sky was amazing. The couple noted that their date night at Powell was way better than the last date. I didn't pursue that one.
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Did the hand controller work correctly?  If so, I suspect, just as David
> said, that the computer was complaining about being too cold.
> 
> If the hand controller did NOT work correctly then it's probably a very good
> time to install the new control system.  Just like we were planning to do!
> 
> By the way, the new PC is an industrially rated PC and should be more cold
> tolerant.  I think it comes with fleece lined heat sinks...
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Young
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Ruisinger 30" Misbehavior
> 
> In cold weather it might help to put an electric heater in the closet for a
> while. I don't think the telescope computer is rated for 20 degrees or less.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:
> >
> > 1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts 2. stops for ~1 
> > minute 3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� 
> > below horizontal 4. stops again for ~1 minute 5. continues slewing in 
> > Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry, we shut it off 
> > before it hit)
> >
> > This happened 3 times in a row.
> >
> > From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as 
> > far as step 2, above, then does nothing.
> >
> > So we're working without the computer tonight. Many thanks to Dale 
> > Cameron for assistance.
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

I can help, but I can't get there until about 6:45.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> I remember doing this stuff when my sons were Webelos.
> 
>  
> 
> I will help out at Powell if I can get at least one more helper.  If someone
> will volunteer to help, I will call the den leader and get things scheduled.
> 
>  
> 
> One question:  If we meet at Powell do we still charge them a reservation
> fee?
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Young
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:43 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Troop 312
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I think I sent this out before.
> 
> Any takers?
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Scarrittpoint <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >wrote:
> 
> > Dear Sirs,
> > I sent an email on about the 10th of January asking for your assistance in
> > my Webelos to earn their Astronomy Pin. We meet on Tuesdays. Is this
> > something you can help us with?
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Joseph Peterson
> > 816-808-7168
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > *From:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
> > *Date:* January 10, 2012 1:52:02 PM CST
> > *To:* "askc_powell_reservations@...
> <mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> " <
> > askc_powell_reservations@...
> <mailto:askc_powell_reservations%40askc.org> >
> > *Subject:* *Webelos Troop 312*
> > *Reply-To:* Joseph Peterson <scarrittpoint@...
> <mailto:scarrittpoint%40yahoo.com> >
> >
> > Dear Sirs,
> >
> > Would it be possible for someone to meet with my Webelos on Tuesday,
> > January
> > 17th either at Powell Observatory, Messiah Lutheran School (in
> > Independence) or some place else. (there are 4 boys) We are working on
> > our Astronomy Pin requirements. We usually meet at 6:45 but we can
> > certainly flex.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Joseph Peterson
> > Den Leader; 312
> > 816-808-7168
> >
> >
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yeah, the hand controller was fine � I should have mentioned that. Also the computer got a General Protection Fault at location 0005:1D62 on one occasion.

I'd say that 20�F temperature limit is optimistic; air temperature was around freezing, with the occasional light breeze, but sometimes dead calm. Sky transparency wasn't great, but the seeing was amazing. Possibly the best view of Jupiter I've ever gotten. Lots of belt/zone detail, rich reddish-brown color in the belts, very prominent Great Red Spot, and a shadow transit in progress. Objects observed with the 30": Venus, Jupiter, M42; with Dale's 12" Dob: M45/Pleiades, M42, M1, Double Cluster in Perseus, M31/M32/M110, M81 (Bode's Galaxy), M82 (Cigar Galaxy), and maybe a few others; with Mark I Eyeball: Tiangong-1, Iridium 60, Iridium 96, various random satellites and sporadic meteors, and the Winter Milky Way. I did a couple of laser sky tours.

Attendees were cold-tolerant and enjoyed it immensely. We hung out in the classroom and I gave them hot chocolate and showed them the dark-sky Google map overlay at http://sites.google.com/site/3davel/home/light-pollution/lp2001/gmap. Jason is from somewhere northeast of Hays and enjoys dark skies whenever he's at home (he's a student at K-State). We yakked about the one attraction near his home that I've seen, the "Garden of Eden" in Lucas. His girlfriend Melissa is from somewhere near Wichita, so I mentioned Lake Afton Observatory.

Jason made a $20 donation on top of the fee, so I have $80 for the ASKC treasury.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "dale67.cameron" <dale.cameron@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> The hand controller worked with no problems. With the computer, the only direction functioning was down. The dome also needed a helping hand pulling on it several times. The temperature was cold. Everybody had a good time and the seeing conditions were excellent. Andromeda was nice. The crab nebula was faint as usual. The dark clouds in Orion were easily seen through the ruisinger. Jupiter's red spot and a transit shadow were perfect viewing through it. Jay showed us a couple of nice iridium flares. One became very bright. The bodes galaxy and cigar galaxy were somewhat washed out by the kc sky, but still very visible. Jay's knowledge of the sky was amazing. The couple noted that their date night at Powell was way better than the last date. I didn't pursue that one.
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> >
> > Did the hand controller work correctly?  If so, I suspect, just as David
> > said, that the computer was complaining about being too cold.
> > 
> > If the hand controller did NOT work correctly then it's probably a very good
> > time to install the new control system.  Just like we were planning to do!
> > 
> > By the way, the new PC is an industrially rated PC and should be more cold
> > tolerant.  I think it comes with fleece lined heat sinks...
> > 
> > Rick Henderson
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > Young
> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:45 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Ruisinger 30" Misbehavior
> > 
> > In cold weather it might help to put an electric heater in the closet for a
> > while. I don't think the telescope computer is rated for 20 degrees or less.
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@>wrote:
> > 
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:
> > >
> > > 1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts 2. stops for ~1 
> > > minute 3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� 
> > > below horizontal 4. stops again for ~1 minute 5. continues slewing in 
> > > Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry, we shut it off 
> > > before it hit)
> > >
> > > This happened 3 times in a row.
> > >
> > > From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as 
> > > far as step 2, above, then does nothing.
> > >
> > > So we're working without the computer tonight. Many thanks to Dale 
> > > Cameron for assistance.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

http://sites.google.com/site/3davel/home/light-pollution/lp2001/gmap

The period at the end in my earlier post got included in the link and kept it from working properly.

Thanks for posting the map below. I compared it to this one that I have
seen and used online  http://www.jshine.net/astronomy/dark_sky/  and it
looks like there are two new darker areas on your map South/South East of
Kansas Citycompared to this one. It appears that the map I linked to above
has references by the author that he did not have time to update it and I
assume it was an older version that is outdated.

How updated is yours? I find it interesting that your map shows two new
darker areas and also the shape of the area around Emporia is different now
(on your map) spreading to Manhattan north?

Do you have the original source of your map?

Thanks!


On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:

> http://sites.google.com/site/3davel/home/light-pollution/lp2001/gmap
>
> The period at the end in my earlier post got included in the link and kept
> it from working properly.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Dale, thanks for the additional information.

 

Yep, sounds like the computer must have had cold feet or chips or electrons
or whatever.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dale67.cameron
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:44 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Ruisinger 30" Misbehavior

 

  



The hand controller worked with no problems. With the computer, the only
direction functioning was down. The dome also needed a helping hand pulling
on it several times. The temperature was cold. Everybody had a good time and
the seeing conditions were excellent. Andromeda was nice. The crab nebula
was faint as usual. The dark clouds in Orion were easily seen through the
ruisinger. Jupiter's red spot and a transit shadow were perfect viewing
through it. Jay showed us a couple of nice iridium flares. One became very
bright. The bodes galaxy and cigar galaxy were somewhat washed out by the kc
sky, but still very visible. Jay's knowledge of the sky was amazing. The
couple noted that their date night at Powell was way better than the last
date. I didn't pursue that one.
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Did the hand controller work correctly? If so, I suspect, just as David
> said, that the computer was complaining about being too cold.
> 
> If the hand controller did NOT work correctly then it's probably a very
good
> time to install the new control system. Just like we were planning to do!
> 
> By the way, the new PC is an industrially rated PC and should be more cold
> tolerant. I think it comes with fleece lined heat sinks...
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
David
> Young
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Ruisinger 30" Misbehavior
> 
> In cold weather it might help to put an electric heater in the closet for
a
> while. I don't think the telescope computer is rated for 20 degrees or
less.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > From home position, when instructed to find Venus, the telescope:
> >
> > 1. slews in Dec to north celestial pole or thereabouts 2. stops for ~1 
> > minute 3. continues to slew in Dec, still pointed north, until ~10� 
> > below horizontal 4. stops again for ~1 minute 5. continues slewing in 
> > Dec until making contact with floor (don't worry, we shut it off 
> > before it hit)
> >
> > This happened 3 times in a row.
> >
> > From home position, when instructed to do a fork rotate, it gets as 
> > far as step 2, above, then does nothing.
> >
> > So we're working without the computer tonight. Many thanks to Dale 
> > Cameron for assistance.
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>





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My understanding is that the Google Maps overlay is an updated/corrected version that takes reflectivity of snow into account and therefore indicates that, at least in some areas, light pollution is not as severe as previously indicated.

I do not recall the original source.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting the map below. I compared it to this one that I have
> seen and used online  http://www.jshine.net/astronomy/dark_sky/  and it
> looks like there are two new darker areas on your map South/South East of
> Kansas Citycompared to this one. It appears that the map I linked to above
> has references by the author that he did not have time to update it and I
> assume it was an older version that is outdated.
> 
> How updated is yours? I find it interesting that your map shows two new
> darker areas and also the shape of the area around Emporia is different now
> (on your map) spreading to Manhattan north?
> 
> Do you have the original source of your map?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:
> 
> > http://sites.google.com/site/3davel/home/light-pollution/lp2001/gmap
> >
> > The period at the end in my earlier post got included in the link and kept
> > it from working properly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Rita and I will be at the Warko today at 2pm doing recon for the floor 
anchoring system of the new enclosure over the pier.

Joe

Darn it, just now saw your note.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Rita and I will be at the Warko today at 2pm doing recon for the floor
> anchoring system of the new enclosure over the pier.
>
> Joe
> 
>


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For some time now I have noticed that when passenger jet contrails persist a long time in the sky, showing a high percentage of moisture at that altitude, both seeing and darkness are poor that night.  If the contrail is gone in less than one or two seconds after the plane passes, count on deep, stable views that evening.

Should the contrails hang, coalesce, spread and become  clouds, check to see if there is a good movie on cable.  

Anyone interested in doing this.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@...> wrote:

>  Hi Mr. Young-****
>
> ** **
>
> Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> Science night.  Please feel free to contact me via phone (816) 228-8793.
> I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night you
> provide telescopes for tht evening.  I am usually in the office from
> 7:30-3:00.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks For Your Support****
>
> ** **
>
> Gina Linhardt****
>
> Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
>
> Blue Springs School District****
>
> glinhardt@...****
>
> ** **
>
> ------------------------------
> STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or a
> person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> original message.
>


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Volunteers wanted for planet hunt

Members of the public are being asked to join the hunt for nearby planets
that could support life.Volunteers can go to the Planethunters website to
see time-lapsed images of 150,000 stars, taken by the Kepler space
telescope. They will be advised on the signs that indicate the presence of
a planet and how to alert experts if they spot them."We know that people
will find planets that are missed by the computer," said Chris Lintott from
Oxford University.
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644608-volunteers-wanted-for-planet-hunt


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Iggy, are we looking for a place that would support virii or humans? 



On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:

> Volunteers wanted for planet hunt
> 
> Members of the public are being asked to join the hunt for nearby planets
> that could support life.Volunteers can go to the Planethunters website to
> see time-lapsed images of 150,000 stars, taken by the Kepler space
> telescope. They will be advised on the signs that indicate the presence of
> a planet and how to alert experts if they spot them."We know that people
> will find planets that are missed by the computer," said Chris Lintott from
> Oxford University.
> http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644608-volunteers-wanted-for-planet-hunt
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Clyde was not only a friend who had spenta number of nights in my travel
trailer with me at several star parties, but his wife Pat was also a friend
- and acted as Clyde's day-to-day manager and datebook.  I also own the
first book of "Clyde Tombaugh" written by David Levy; it was the first copy
autographed by Clyde and David on the first day of issue; this was done at
the Texas Star Party,  Clyde was so thrilled by the book that on my copy
he wrote the wrong date,scratched it out and put the correct date in - and
Pat had to live with that kind of guy!  She was a marvelous lady and
Clyde's strongest supporter, with a wonderful sense of humor and infinite
patience - she had to be to put up with his impetus and  drive.  She was a
great lady, and I am deeply saddened by the loss of such a wonderful friend
of astronomy.

Jim Marsh
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@kc.rr.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I just received this notice from Jack Dunn, the planetarium director at the
> Mueller Planetarium in Lincoln. Some of you actually met Clyde Tombaugh and
> possibly his wife.
>
> Another end of an era.
>
> The story is at:
>
> http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19735534
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> 
>


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I think the first step is to find a planet among 150,000 stars, we then
will figure out later what and if that planet(s) can support.

Baby steps....



On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> Iggy, are we looking for a place that would support virii or humans?
>
>
>
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:50 PM, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:
>
> > Volunteers wanted for planet hunt
> >
> > Members of the public are being asked to join the hunt for nearby planets
> > that could support life.Volunteers can go to the Planethunters website to
> > see time-lapsed images of 150,000 stars, taken by the Kepler space
> > telescope. They will be advised on the signs that indicate the presence
> of
> > a planet and how to alert experts if they spot them."We know that people
> > will find planets that are missed by the computer," said Chris Lintott
> from
> > Oxford University.
> >
> http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644608-volunteers-wanted-for-planet-hunt
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Hi Jim,

Thank you for the background story and good to hear from you.

I never had the privilege of meeting either of the Tombaughs, although I
have visited Burdett, KS and the little historical site they have in town
about him.  Not very big, but better than nothing.

Thanks for sharing!

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Marsh
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:41 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Clyde Tombaugh's widow passes at 99

Clyde was not only a friend who had spenta number of nights in my travel
trailer with me at several star parties, but his wife Pat was also a friend
- and acted as Clyde's day-to-day manager and datebook.  I also own the
first book of "Clyde Tombaugh" written by David Levy; it was the first copy
autographed by Clyde and David on the first day of issue; this was done at
the Texas Star Party,  Clyde was so thrilled by the book that on my copy he
wrote the wrong date,scratched it out and put the correct date in - and Pat
had to live with that kind of guy!  She was a marvelous lady and Clyde's
strongest supporter, with a wonderful sense of humor and infinite patience -
she had to be to put up with his impetus and  drive.  She was a great lady,
and I am deeply saddened by the loss of such a wonderful friend of
astronomy.

Jim Marsh
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rick Henderson
<rhenderson1@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> I just received this notice from Jack Dunn, the planetarium director 
> at the Mueller Planetarium in Lincoln. Some of you actually met Clyde 
> Tombaugh and possibly his wife.
>
> Another end of an era.
>
> The story is at:
>
> http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19735534
>
> Rick Henderson
>
> 
>


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------------------------------------



Yahoo! Groups Links

This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have missed it a week ago.  It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue Valley District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode tabulation of visitors.  However, there is no information on the date or location.  Can we be filled in?

Dave Brackey


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in doing this.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@...> wrote:
> 
> >  Hi Mr. Young-****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > Science night.  Please feel free to contact me via phone (816) 228-8793.
> > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night you
> > provide telescopes for tht evening.  I am usually in the office from
> > 7:30-3:00.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thanks For Your Support****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Gina Linhardt****
> >
> > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> >
> > Blue Springs School District****
> >
> > glinhardt@...****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or a
> > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > original message.
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

What is the date of the event? I will try and make it. Also, I work for a local
paper "Independence Examiner". The Examiner might be interested in doing a story
but I'm not sure. I cover sports but I can check if we want some PR for the
club.
 
-Brian Davidson
816-820-0444 

 


On January 16, 2012 at 6:07 PM dbrac06 <dbrackey@...> wrote:

> This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have missed it
> a week ago.  It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue Valley
> District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode tabulation of
> visitors.  However, there is no information on the date or location.  Can we
> be filled in?
>
> Dave Brackey
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone interested in doing this.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@...> wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi Mr. Young-****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > > Science night.  Please feel free to contact me via phone (816) 228-8793.
> > > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night you
> > > provide telescopes for tht evening.  I am usually in the office from
> > > 7:30-3:00.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thanks For Your Support****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Gina Linhardt****
> > >
> > > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> > >
> > > Blue Springs School District****
> > >
> > > glinhardt@...****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or a
> > > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > > original message.
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

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I think it was January 25 but that date will need to be confirmed. I
haven't put anything on the calendar because I didn't get any volunteers.
If someone gets around to it they can call the number in the message. I got
a recording that sounded like it was a work/school number when I called.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:07 PM, dbrac06 <dbrackey@...> wrote:

> This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have
> missed it a week ago.  It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue
> Valley District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode
> tabulation of visitors.  However, there is no information on the date or
> location.  Can we be filled in?
>
> Dave Brackey
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone interested in doing this.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@...> wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi Mr. Young-****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > > Science night.  Please feel free to contact me via phone (816)
> 228-8793.
> > > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night
> you
> > > provide telescopes for tht evening.  I am usually in the office from
> > > 7:30-3:00.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thanks For Your Support****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Gina Linhardt****
> > >
> > > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> > >
> > > Blue Springs School District****
> > >
> > > glinhardt@...****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient
> or a
> > > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > > original message.
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Dave,

 

Blue Springs is up by Independence and not affiliated with Blue Valley
Schools in Johnson County, KS.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dbrac06
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:08 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Astronomy

 

  

This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have missed
it a week ago. It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue Valley
District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode tabulation
of visitors. However, there is no information on the date or location. Can
we be filled in?

Dave Brackey

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David Young
<youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in doing this.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mr. Young-****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > Science night. Please feel free to contact me via phone (816) 228-8793.
> > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night you
> > provide telescopes for tht evening. I am usually in the office from
> > 7:30-3:00.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thanks For Your Support****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Gina Linhardt****
> >
> > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> >
> > Blue Springs School District****
> >
> > glinhardt@...****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or
a
> > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > original message.
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

Private school group
Wednesday January 18, 2012
6:00 pm - 8:00 pm

Notes:
Kathryn Lofthus Kathryn.Lofthus@...
816-225-5819


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Anybody out there care to do a private school group January 18 (Wednesday
night)


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At Powell? I can go and help.
 
-Brian 

 


On January 16, 2012 at 8:49 PM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Anybody out there care to do a private school group January 18 (Wednesday
> night)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy,

A new Hubble Space Telescope image centers on the 100-million-solar-mass
black hole at the hub of the neighboring spiral galaxy M31, or the
Andromeda galaxy, the only galaxy outside the Milky Way visible to the
naked eye and the only other giant galaxy in the local group.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133952.htm


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I have to disagree with this statement.... " the only galaxy outside the Milky Way visible to the naked eye". 



I know many of us have seen M33 with the naked eye before. Some have even seen M81 with the naked eye. 



Nice article though.......... ;-) 

-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:56:55 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy 

  




Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy, 

A new Hubble Space Telescope image centers on the 100-million-solar-mass 
black hole at the hub of the neighboring spiral galaxy M31, or the 
Andromeda galaxy, the only galaxy outside the Milky Way visible to the 
naked eye and the only other giant galaxy in the local group. 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133952.htm 

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How about the Magelanic(sp?) clouds? Aren't they companion galaxies? Just 
curious.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <s.kranz1@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy




I have to disagree with this statement.... " the only galaxy outside the 
Milky Way visible to the naked eye".



I know many of us have seen M33 with the naked eye before. Some have even 
seen M81 with the naked eye.



Nice article though.......... ;-)

-Scott



----- Original Message -----


From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:56:55 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy






Hubble zooms in on double nucleus in Andromeda galaxy,

A new Hubble Space Telescope image centers on the 100-million-solar-mass
black hole at the hub of the neighboring spiral galaxy M31, or the
Andromeda galaxy, the only galaxy outside the Milky Way visible to the
naked eye and the only other giant galaxy in the local group.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120111133952.htm

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Yahoo! Groups Links

Is this the blue springs school? I can't find the other email but someone mentioned someone from a blue springs school was interested in a private night.

I talked to my editor and the Independence Examiner would be interested in doing a story on it. If I could get some information for my editor, that would be great! 

If its not Blue Springs then the paper still might be interested. 

-Brian Davidson
816-820-0444
Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:49 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Anybody out there care to do a private school group January 18 (Wednesday
> night)
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Rick,

I'm guilty of a complete and total case of brain-lock.

Dave Brackey


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> 
>  
> 
> Blue Springs is up by Independence and not affiliated with Blue Valley
> Schools in Johnson County, KS.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> dbrac06
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:08 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Astronomy
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have missed
> it a week ago. It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue Valley
> District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode tabulation
> of visitors. However, there is no information on the date or location. Can
> we be filled in?
> 
> Dave Brackey
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David Young
> <youngmdavid@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone interested in doing this.
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mr. Young-****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > > Science night. Please feel free to contact me via phone (816) 228-8793.
> > > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night you
> > > provide telescopes for tht evening. I am usually in the office from
> > > 7:30-3:00.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thanks For Your Support****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Gina Linhardt****
> > >
> > > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> > >
> > > Blue Springs School District****
> > >
> > > glinhardt@****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient or
> a
> > > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > > original message.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Dave,

 

Of course that's something I've NEVER been afflicted with.

 

Especially when forgetting to have the board meeting minutes read and
approved.

 

What?  Me Worry?

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dbrac06
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:58 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Astronomy

 

  

Rick,

I'm guilty of a complete and total case of brain-lock.

Dave Brackey

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> 
> 
> 
> Blue Springs is up by Independence and not affiliated with Blue Valley
> Schools in Johnson County, KS.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> dbrac06
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:08 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Astronomy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have
missed
> it a week ago. It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue Valley
> District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode tabulation
> of visitors. However, there is no information on the date or location. Can
> we be filled in?
> 
> Dave Brackey
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David Young
> <youngmdavid@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone interested in doing this.
> > 
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mr. Young-****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > > Science night. Please feel free to contact me via phone (816)
228-8793.
> > > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night
you
> > > provide telescopes for tht evening. I am usually in the office from
> > > 7:30-3:00.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Thanks For Your Support****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Gina Linhardt****
> > >
> > > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> > >
> > > Blue Springs School District****
> > >
> > > glinhardt@****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient
or
> a
> > > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > > original message.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

soooooo.....Seeing a lack of volunteers, I'll reply that we are not able to
help them out at this time.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:57 PM, dbrac06 <dbrackey@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'm guilty of a complete and total case of brain-lock.
>
> Dave Brackey
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> >
> >
> > Blue Springs is up by Independence and not affiliated with Blue Valley
> > Schools in Johnson County, KS.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > dbrac06
> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:08 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Astronomy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is the first time I've seen this request -- although I may have
> missed
> > it a week ago. It would seem to be a logical connection to the Blue
> Valley
> > District (KS??) that was well represented in our recent zipcode
> tabulation
> > of visitors. However, there is no information on the date or location.
> Can
> > we be filled in?
> >
> > Dave Brackey
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David
> Young
> > <youngmdavid@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone interested in doing this.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gina Linhardt <glinhardt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mr. Young-****
> > > >
> > > > ** **
> > > >
> > > > Rhonda Malone has just given me your email to contact you about our
> > > > Science night. Please feel free to contact me via phone (816)
> 228-8793.
> > > > I want to make sure if we need to supply any materials for the night
> you
> > > > provide telescopes for tht evening. I am usually in the office from
> > > > 7:30-3:00.****
> > > >
> > > > ** **
> > > >
> > > > Thanks For Your Support****
> > > >
> > > > ** **
> > > >
> > > > Gina Linhardt****
> > > >
> > > > Family Advocate/PAT Parent Educator****
> > > >
> > > > Blue Springs School District****
> > > >
> > > > glinhardt@****
>
> > > >
> > > > ** **
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY
> > > > This correspondence and any attachments are for the sole use of the
> > > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or privileged
> > > > information. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, or distribution is
> > > > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended
> recipient or
> > a
> > > > person responsible for delivering this message to the intended
> > > > recipient(s), please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> > > > original message.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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I see a Raytown school group on the calendar and zero volunteers listed.
I'll call them this afternoon and cancel.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Brian Davidson responded about this request on Monday. That post only 
mentioned the date.
No particulars were given about the event.

Joe

David Young wrote:
>
> I see a Raytown school group on the calendar and zero volunteers listed.
> I'll call them this afternoon and cancel.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

Yes but not a single keyholder has responded.



On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> Brian Davidson responded about this request on Monday. That post only
> mentioned the date.
> No particulars were given about the event.
>
> Joe
>
> David Young wrote:
> >
> > I see a Raytown school group on the calendar and zero volunteers listed.
> > I'll call them this afternoon and cancel.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I wasn't sure of the location this morning:  Powell or at a school.  
Either way, I couldn't get any where until 8pm.  Rita and I didn't get 
off work until 6:30 last night.

Thanks for the update.

Joe

PS:  Don't take work as a steady job.  This is a short (two day) gig at 
GM (or at the home office).

If anyone wants to carpool from up North  I will go tonight to keep from 
canceling this event.  It's about a $45 round trip for Whitey.  Rita 
most likely will not be home in time to take her car.


Joe

Don't sweat it Joe. I decided to do this one myself since no one else
chimed in. Too many kids to disappoint. Brian Davidson may help. This is a
group of 30 seventh graders from Raytown. Their bus should arrive about
6:00.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> If anyone wants to carpool from up North I will go tonight to keep from
> canceling this event. It's about a $45 round trip for Whitey. Rita
> most likely will not be home in time to take her car.
>
> Joe
>
> 
>


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I'm glad I read the message twice.  The second time with glasses on .  I 
first read "don't sweet it..."  Huh?

I don't like to put a dollar amount on my volunteering, but times are 
tough.

Who knows, if Rita gets home in time, you may see me.

Thanks Dave

Joe

What amount are able to deduct from federal income tax for our travel to do outreach?  

On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm glad I read the message twice.  The second time with glasses on .  I 
> first read "don't sweet it..."  Huh?
> 
> I don't like to put a dollar amount on my volunteering, but times are 
> tough.
> 
> Who knows, if Rita gets home in time, you may see me.
> 
> Thanks Dave
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

George:

Yes, Rita and I claim quite a bit of mileage with the amount Girl Scout, 
Boy Scout and astronomy venues in which we participate. I have never 
balked about what it takes to operate Whitey (yes, I like my truck..Its 
is my icon) for any of these organizations. Being unemployed without 
unemployment insurance and little income, I am taking a second look at 
things. Most people know how miserable I was when working at the 
dealership and couldn't make outreach events. It sucked! Interacting 
with the public is fun and I enjoy it. It is also a great place to meet 
other members of the ASKC and gives me a chance to get to know them.

I sent David a private message earlier that I would meet him at his 
house this evening to help at Powell. Well, unless it is cloudy!

Respectfully,

Joe

george allen wrote:
>
> What amount are able to deduct from federal income tax for our travel 
> to do outreach?
>
> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@... 
> <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> > I'm glad I read the message twice. The second time with glasses on . I
> > first read "don't sweet it..." Huh?
> >
> > I don't like to put a dollar amount on my volunteering, but times are
> > tough.
> >
> > Who knows, if Rita gets home in time, you may see me.
> >
> > Thanks Dave
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

How much per mile does IRS allow these days.  We had been using about 75 cents per mile but a guy at a meeting said it was only around 20 cents.  

At today's gas price that would barely cover fuel.  And we aren't talking Whitey here, either.  Any tax experts in the crowd?  I don't wanna go to prison over this issue.

On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@yahoo.com> wrote:

> George:
> 
> Yes, Rita and I claim quite a bit of mileage with the amount Girl Scout, 
> Boy Scout and astronomy venues in which we participate. I have never 
> balked about what it takes to operate Whitey (yes, I like my truck..Its 
> is my icon) for any of these organizations. Being unemployed without 
> unemployment insurance and little income, I am taking a second look at 
> things. Most people know how miserable I was when working at the 
> dealership and couldn't make outreach events. It sucked! Interacting 
> with the public is fun and I enjoy it. It is also a great place to meet 
> other members of the ASKC and gives me a chance to get to know them.
> 
> I sent David a private message earlier that I would meet him at his 
> house this evening to help at Powell. Well, unless it is cloudy!
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Joe
> 
> george allen wrote:
>> 
>> What amount are able to deduct from federal income tax for our travel 
>> to do outreach?
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@... 
>> <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm glad I read the message twice. The second time with glasses on . I
>>> first read "don't sweet it..." Huh?
>>> 
>>> I don't like to put a dollar amount on my volunteering, but times are
>>> tough.
>>> 
>>> Who knows, if Rita gets home in time, you may see me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Dave
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
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Hey George:

I tried sending to you directly, but it was derailed due to blocking 
program.  That process also had errors and failed.

Joe

I don't know what the current 2011 and 2012 rates are, but the 2010 rates were:

Business miles:   $0.55/mile
Medical miles:    $0.165/mile (appointments, etc.)
Charitable miles: $0.14/mile  (Powell, etc.)

Roger

At 14:07 2012-01-18, you wrote:
>
>
>How much per mile does IRS allow these days. We had been using about 
>75 cents per mile but a guy at a meeting said it was only around 20 cents.
>
>At today's gas price that would barely cover fuel. And we aren't 
>talking Whitey here, either. Any tax experts in the crowd? I don't 
>wanna go to prison over this issue.


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You have been added to the privileged few.  Just one of the things we have to put up with to live in an open world.  

On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> Hey George:
> 
> I tried sending to you directly, but it was derailed due to blocking 
> program.  That process also had errors and failed.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 

GEE, SINCE I DID DRAWINGS ON THE ROAD TO THE CONVENTION AT BRYCE CANYON, 
CAN I CLAIM THOSE MILES SINCE MY OFFICE WAS MOVING? RHETORICAL IN 
NATURE...NO NEED TO RESPOND.

BY THE WAY, WHEN IN AUTOCAD, CAP LOCK IS LEFT ON WHILE DRAWING

JOE

Roger Gruenke wrote:
>
> I don't know what the current 2011 and 2012 rates are, but the 2010 
> rates were:
>
> Business miles: $0.55/mile
> Medical miles: $0.165/mile (appointments, etc.)
> Charitable miles: $0.14/mile (Powell, etc.)
>
> Roger
>
> At 14:07 2012-01-18, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >How much per mile does IRS allow these days. We had been using about
> >75 cents per mile but a guy at a meeting said it was only around 20 
> cents.
> >
> >At today's gas price that would barely cover fuel. And we aren't
> >talking Whitey here, either. Any tax experts in the crowd? I don't
> >wanna go to prison over this issue.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

AND HERE I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST HARD OF HEARING WHILE TYPING.

RICK HENDERSON

Sorry Joe, couldn't resist.

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Wright
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Tonight's Group at Powell

GEE, SINCE I DID DRAWINGS ON THE ROAD TO THE CONVENTION AT BRYCE CANYON, CAN
I CLAIM THOSE MILES SINCE MY OFFICE WAS MOVING? RHETORICAL IN NATURE...NO
NEED TO RESPOND.

BY THE WAY, WHEN IN AUTOCAD, CAP LOCK IS LEFT ON WHILE DRAWING

JOE

Roger Gruenke wrote:
>
> I don't know what the current 2011 and 2012 rates are, but the 2010 
> rates were:
>
> Business miles: $0.55/mile
> Medical miles: $0.165/mile (appointments, etc.) Charitable miles: 
> $0.14/mile (Powell, etc.)
>
> Roger
>
> At 14:07 2012-01-18, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >How much per mile does IRS allow these days. We had been using about
> >75 cents per mile but a guy at a meeting said it was only around 20
> cents.
> >
> >At today's gas price that would barely cover fuel. And we aren't 
> >talking Whitey here, either. Any tax experts in the crowd? I don't 
> >wanna go to prison over this issue.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 


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I DON'T USE WHITE OUT ON THE SCREEN EITHER. I GAVE UP WRITING (CURSIVE) 
YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF HAND DRAFTING AND ONLY PRINT LETTERS.

JOE

Rick Henderson wrote:
>
> AND HERE I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE JUST HARD OF HEARING WHILE TYPING.
>
> RICK HENDERSON
>
> Sorry Joe, couldn't resist.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph
> Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:45 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Tonight's Group at Powell
>
> GEE, SINCE I DID DRAWINGS ON THE ROAD TO THE CONVENTION AT BRYCE 
> CANYON, CAN
> I CLAIM THOSE MILES SINCE MY OFFICE WAS MOVING? RHETORICAL IN NATURE...NO
> NEED TO RESPOND.
>
> BY THE WAY, WHEN IN AUTOCAD, CAP LOCK IS LEFT ON WHILE DRAWING
>
> JOE
>
> Roger Gruenke wrote:
> >
> > I don't know what the current 2011 and 2012 rates are, but the 2010
> > rates were:
> >
> > Business miles: $0.55/mile
> > Medical miles: $0.165/mile (appointments, etc.) Charitable miles:
> > $0.14/mile (Powell, etc.)
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > At 14:07 2012-01-18, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >How much per mile does IRS allow these days. We had been using about
> > >75 cents per mile but a guy at a meeting said it was only around 20
> > cents.
> > >
> > >At today's gas price that would barely cover fuel. And we aren't
> > >talking Whitey here, either. Any tax experts in the crowd? I don't
> > >wanna go to prison over this issue.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> 

Tom, I'll get your address in the list on your next email.  I finally got the $3 version of Safari loaded at the hospital after rehab today.  Using the iPad, I can't synch my old list of emails so I just pick them off new messages, and it refuses to download >20 Meg apps by phone.

Where can I get an app that has something like boring, flat star charts?  Maybe Tirion?  I know you like to make "old dog/new tricks" comments at my expense just because I think $400 eyepieces are nuts, but this iPad thing replaces so many other things that I am sold on it and can't wait to see what else it can do.  Most of my apps are free and most I've paid is $3.  

And I still think anyone who buys $400 EP's but doesn't have an iPad loaded with astro apps is, well, at least making a big mistake.  Bow wow!  :-))

George:  Sometimes old dogs surprise me with what they can do.  I never thought you would touch an iPad, much less own one!  It is a nice toy, isn't it?


The Apple app store has Wil Tirion star charts for the iPad for $3.99.  I don't have them on my iPad, but they look pretty cool in the store window.  They only go down to 6th magnitude, however.  There is a one called "Star Atlas" that goes down to 7.5 mag stars, but it is for the iPhone, so I'm not sure what it would look like on the iPad.  It's free, so it doesn't hurt to find out.


I would think the Sky Safari charts would be much better and more versatile.  You can use the Sky Safari app such that the sky looks like a printed star chart, i.e, white background with black stars and objects.  What is the magnitude limit on the $3.00 version of Sky Safari?  The Sky Safari Pro version goes down to 16th mag stars or so.

BTW, my email address is zenitrammot at yahoo dot com.  It's just my name backwards.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>To: askcyahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:17 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
> 
>
>  
>Tom, I'll get your address in the list on your next email.  I finally got the $3 version of Safari loaded at the hospital after rehab today.  Using the iPad, I can't synch my old list of emails so I just pick them off new messages, and it refuses to download >20 Meg apps by phone.
>
>Where can I get an app that has something like boring, flat star charts?  Maybe Tirion?  I know you like to make "old dog/new tricks" comments at my expense just because I think $400 eyepieces are nuts, but this iPad thing replaces so many other things that I am sold on it and can't wait to see what else it can do.  Most of my apps are free and most I've paid is $3. 
>
>And I still think anyone who buys $400 EP's but doesn't have an iPad loaded with astro apps is, well, at least making a big mistake.  Bow wow!  :-))
>
>
> 
>
>

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So far I have not mastered Basic SF but the mag depends on the scale, max 15.9 for stars, a little deeper for extended objects.  Touch anything and get data.  Have not figured out to make it like a star chart with coordinates (RA/DEC). Goes red for scope side use.  Expands and contracts by fingers.  Has lots of info on all objects.  Looks like it could replace all I use.  

I sure wouldn't call it a toy, more like next generation astro library.  At my age the phone version is much too small to see well.  



On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:

> George:  Sometimes old dogs surprise me with what they can do.  I never thought you would touch an iPad, much less own one!  It is a nice toy, isn't it?
> 
> 
> The Apple app store has Wil Tirion star charts for the iPad for $3.99.  I don't have them on my iPad, but they look pretty cool in the store window.  They only go down to 6th magnitude, however.  There is a one called "Star Atlas" that goes down to 7.5 mag stars, but it is for the iPhone, so I'm not sure what it would look like on the iPad.  It's free, so it doesn't hurt to find out.
> 
> 
> I would think the Sky Safari charts would be much better and more versatile.  You can use the Sky Safari app such that the sky looks like a printed star chart, i.e, white background with black stars and objects.  What is the magnitude limit on the $3.00 version of Sky Safari?  The Sky Safari Pro version goes down to 16th mag stars or so.
> 
> BTW, my email address is zenitrammot at yahoo dot com.  It's just my name backwards.
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>> To: askcyahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:17 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> Tom, I'll get your address in the list on your next email.  I finally got the $3 version of Safari loaded at the hospital after rehab today.  Using the iPad, I can't synch my old list of emails so I just pick them off new messages, and it refuses to download >20 Meg apps by phone.
>> 
>> Where can I get an app that has something

>> like boring, flat star charts?  Maybe Tirion?  I know you like to make "old dog/new tricks" comments at my expense just because I think $400 eyepieces are nuts, but this iPad thing replaces so many other things that I am sold on it and can't wait to see what else it can do.  Most of my apps are free and most I've paid is $3. 
>> 
>> And I still think anyone who buys $400 EP's but doesn't have an iPad loaded with astro apps is, well, at least making a big mistake.  Bow wow!  :-))
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
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> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
> I would think the Sky Safari charts would be much better and more versatile.  You can use the Sky Safari app such that the sky looks like a printed star chart, i.e, white background with black stars and objects.  What is the magnitude limit on the $3.00 version of Sky Safari?  The Sky Safari Pro version goes down to 16th mag stars or so.


I have SkySafari Pro on both my iMac and MacBook.
It is a lot better than some of the others I have tried, and indeed it does go down to 15th-16th mag. It has just about all the features as all the other planetarium/sky charting software. I had been using Carte de Ciel (now called Sky Charts) for some time but was disappointed in the the interface and interaction. I also have Equinox Pro, which is great, but is limited in magnitude unless you are connected to the Internet and can use the "tour" feature, which downloads sky views from various sky surveys. 
What is cool with SkySafari, is that I can take one of my plans in AstoPlanner, export it as a "skylist" and import it into SkySafari. So when I am out observing say the AL League Planetary items, I can call up that list on a side bar, click the object I want to observe and the software will zoom into that area of the sky, showing location and neighboring stars. I can also use the "demo scope" mode if not connected to my SkyCommander, and use the telrad reticle to help in star hopping to the selected target.
All in all, I see where I will be using SkySafari a lot more.

Rob Robinson

George:  To turn Sky Safari into the star chart mode go to "Settings > Appearance > Inverse Monochrome Chart".  This makes the chart background white.  If you want it black, use "Monochrome Chart" instead.  For the RA/Dec grid go to "Grid & Reference" then turn '"On" the Show Grid button.  You can also turn on "Celestial Equator", "Celestial Poles", etc. if you want.  You might also want to turn off "Show Horizon an Sky" so that you can see the sky below the horizon.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
> 
>
>  
>So far I have not mastered Basic SF but the mag depends on the scale, max 15.9 for stars, a little deeper for extended objects.  Touch anything and get data.  Have not figured out to make it like a star chart with coordinates (RA/DEC). Goes red for scope side use.  Expands and contracts by fingers.  Has lots of info on all objects.  Looks like it could replace all I use. 
>
>I sure wouldn't call it a toy, more like next generation astro library.  At my age the phone version is much too small to see well. 
>
>On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
>> George:  Sometimes old dogs surprise me with what they can do.  I never thought you would touch an iPad, much less own one!  It is a nice toy, isn't it?
>> 
>> 
>> The Apple app store has Wil Tirion star charts for the iPad for $3.99.  I don't have them on my iPad, but they look pretty cool in the store window.  They only go down to 6th magnitude, however.  There is a one called "Star Atlas" that goes down to 7.5 mag stars, but it is for the iPhone, so I'm not sure what it would look like on the iPad.  It's free, so it doesn't hurt to find out.
>> 
>> 
>> I would think the Sky Safari charts would be much better and more versatile.  You can use the Sky Safari app such that the sky looks like a printed star chart, i.e, white background with black stars and objects.  What is the magnitude limit on the $3.00 version of Sky Safari?  The Sky Safari Pro version goes down to 16th mag stars or so.
>> 
>> BTW, my email address is zenitrammot at yahoo dot com.  It's just my name backwards.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom J Martinez
>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>>> To: askcyahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:17 PM
>>> Subject: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tom, I'll get your address in the list on your next email.  I finally got the $3 version of Safari loaded at the hospital after rehab today.  Using the iPad, I can't synch my old list of emails so I just pick them off new messages, and it refuses to download >20 Meg apps by phone.
>>> 
>>> Where can I get an app that has something
>
>>> like boring, flat star charts?  Maybe Tirion?  I know you like to make "old dog/new tricks" comments at my expense just because I think $400 eyepieces are nuts, but this iPad thing replaces so many other things that I am sold on it and can't wait to see what else it can do.  Most of my apps are free and most I've paid is $3. 
>>> 
>>> And I still think anyone who buys $400 EP's but doesn't have an iPad loaded with astro apps is, well, at least making a big mistake.  Bow wow!  :-))
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
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>> 
>> 
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> 
>> 
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>
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>

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Woof, woof, grrrr, pant pant, bark, bow wow. Sit George, sit.

Actually I don't have an iPad but I do have a few of those $350 oculars from 
years gone by. Maybe I can tell Pat that I won one in a contest or something.

Johnny Likes Nuts




________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, January 19, 2012 2:34:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.

  
George:  To turn Sky Safari into the star chart mode go to "Settings > 
Appearance > Inverse Monochrome Chart".  This makes the chart background white.  
If you want it black, use "Monochrome Chart" instead.  For the RA/Dec grid go to 
"Grid & Reference" then turn '"On" the Show Grid button.  You can also turn on 
"Celestial Equator", "Celestial Poles", etc. if you want.  You might also want 
to turn off "Show Horizon an Sky" so that you can see the sky below the horizon.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:25 PM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
> 
>
>  
>So far I have not mastered Basic SF but the mag depends on the scale, max 15.9 
>for stars, a little deeper for extended objects. Touch anything and get data. 
>Have not figured out to make it like a star chart with coordinates (RA/DEC). 
>Goes red for scope side use. Expands and contracts by fingers. Has lots of info 
>on all objects. Looks like it could replace all I use. 
>
>
>I sure wouldn't call it a toy, more like next generation astro library. At my 
>age the phone version is much too small to see well. 
>
>
>On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
>> George: Sometimes old dogs surprise me with what they can do. I never thought 
>>you would touch an iPad, much less own one! It is a nice toy, isn't it?
>> 
>> 
>> The Apple app store has Wil Tirion star charts for the iPad for $3.99. I don't 
>>have them on my iPad, but they look pretty cool in the store window. They only 
>>go down to 6th magnitude, however. There is a one called "Star Atlas" that goes 
>>down to 7.5 mag stars, but it is for the iPhone, so I'm not sure what it would 
>>look like on the iPad. It's free, so it doesn't hurt to find out.
>> 
>> 
>> I would think the Sky Safari charts would be much better and more versatile. 
>>You can use the Sky Safari app such that the sky looks like a printed star 
>>chart, i.e, white background with black stars and objects. What is the magnitude 
>>limit on the $3.00 version of Sky Safari? The Sky Safari Pro version goes down 
>>to 16th mag stars or so.
>> 
>> BTW, my email address is zenitrammot at yahoo dot com. It's just my name 
>>backwards.
>> 
>> 
>> Tom J Martinez
>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>>> To: askcyahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:17 PM
>>> Subject: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tom, I'll get your address in the list on your next email. I finally got the $3 
>>>version of Safari loaded at the hospital after rehab today. Using the iPad, I 
>>>can't synch my old list of emails so I just pick them off new messages, and it 
>>>refuses to download >20 Meg apps by phone.
>>> 
>>> Where can I get an app that has something
>
>>> like boring, flat star charts? Maybe Tirion? I know you like to make "old 
>>>dog/new tricks" comments at my expense just because I think $400 eyepieces are 
>>>nuts, but this iPad thing replaces so many other things that I am sold on it and 
>>>can't wait to see what else it can do. Most of my apps are free and most I've 
>>>paid is $3. 
>>>
>>> 
>>> And I still think anyone who buys $400 EP's but doesn't have an iPad loaded 
>>>with astro apps is, well, at least making a big mistake. Bow wow! :-))
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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Joe Wright, Brain Davidson, Steve King and David Young hosted a group of
7th graders from Raytown last night. We crammed 34 visitors into the
classroom and yes it was noisy:-)

The dome was stuck and refused to move with one pull rope. I tried to keep
them entertained in the classroom while Joe opened up the 16".They guys
eventually got it loose using a second pull rope. I put the 30" vertical
with the electronic level and sent the scope to Venus. The 30" headed
directly at the ground with a high speed slew to the north in dec. No slew
in RA. Oh well the hand controller worked and the scope tracked. The kids
got to see Venus and Jupiter through the haze. As the bus was leaving a
little after 8:00 the sky began to clear and Brian got his first look at
M-42. The new wooden cable sheild prevented the opening of the cabinet so
the heater I put in there didn't have a chance of heating up the computer.


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Re: dome being stuck last night -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhU6gpyjMHw



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:40 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Joe Wright, Brain Davidson, Steve King and David Young hosted a group of
> 7th graders from Raytown last night. We crammed 34 visitors into the
> classroom and yes it was noisy:-)
>
> The dome was stuck and refused to move with one pull rope. I tried to keep
> them entertained in the classroom while Joe opened up the 16".They guys
> eventually got it loose using a second pull rope. I put the 30" vertical
> with the electronic level and sent the scope to Venus. The 30" headed
> directly at the ground with a high speed slew to the north in dec. No slew
> in RA. Oh well the hand controller worked and the scope tracked. The kids
> got to see Venus and Jupiter through the haze. As the bus was leaving a
> little after 8:00 the sky began to clear and Brian got his first look at
> M-42. The new wooden cable sheild prevented the opening of the cabinet so
> the heater I put in there didn't have a chance of heating up the computer.
>
>
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It wasn't that dramatic.  Brian, Steve and I used the auxiliary dome 
rotation devices to set the dome free to continue is spinning state.


Yeah, we pulled on some bloody ropes until the darn thang moved!

Joe
Misspelling for dramatic effect only.

Is there a way to add a partition a drive without formatting and losing 
everything on an existing drive?  Basically, I want to create a G drive.

I was thinking of creating a drive to be identical to the drive I use at GM.

Thanks,

Joe

I'm not 100% but I believe the creation of partitions is when you install
your OS. I personally only have one partition. The reason for this is when
you have two or more the C is considered default. C on more than one
partition is usually for the OS so its much smaller.

I edit photos and my program "Adobe Light room" has functions that only
work with the C partition.


Another and easier option would be to buy a 2nd hard drive. If you have a
desktop this should be an easy process to install. Once installed, your OS
should see the 2nd hard drive as another partition or drive.




Hope this helps!
-Brian Davidson
816-820-0444




On January 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> Is there a way to add a partition a drive without formatting and losing
> everything on an existing drive?  Basically, I want to create a G drive.
>
> I was thinking of creating a drive to be identical to the drive I use at
GM.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe

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Brian:

I thought about a second drive.  I has several, but the computer didn't 
recognize them, even from the open SATA port.  I probably should just 
setup an actual server and map drives that way.  I am running a network 
which may have seven computers on it at any given time.

It's not a critical thing, but would make pathing files easy when doing 
contract work for GM.

Thanks,

Joe

There are several software packages that will do it. I use Acronis to clone
drives but have never fiddled with partioning.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Brian:
>
> I thought about a second drive. I has several, but the computer didn't
> recognize them, even from the open SATA port. I probably should just
> setup an actual server and map drives that way. I am running a network
> which may have seven computers on it at any given time.
>
> It's not a critical thing, but would make pathing files easy when doing
> contract work for GM.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
> 
>


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I fairly certain that if you try to repartition the drive you will lose your data.

You may be able to select the option to not format the newly created partitions, but even if the data is on the drive the file allocation table won't know where things are and you'd have to use special software to try and find the bits and pieces the partitioning and re-installing the O/S didn't nuke.

In other words, no.

Rick Henderson

---- David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote: 
> There are several software packages that will do it. I use Acronis to clone
> drives but have never fiddled with partioning.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Brian:
> >
> > I thought about a second drive. I has several, but the computer didn't
> > recognize them, even from the open SATA port. I probably should just
> > setup an actual server and map drives that way. I am running a network
> > which may have seven computers on it at any given time.
> >
> > It's not a critical thing, but would make pathing files easy when doing
> > contract work for GM.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> > 
> >
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
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> 

I used to use a program called Partition 
Commander.  It allowed one to create and change 
partitions without losing data.  There is a 
program now available called PartitionMagicServer 
with prices starting at $129.  web site: 
PartitionMagicServer.com  Others may also exist

Roger


At 13:49 2012-01-19, you wrote:
>
>
>I fairly certain that if you try to repartition 
>the drive you will lose your data.
>
>You may be able to select the option to not 
>format the newly created partitions, but even if 
>the data is on the drive the file allocation 
>table won't know where things are and you'd have 
>to use special software to try and find the bits 
>and pieces the partitioning and re-installing the O/S didn't nuke.
>
>In other words, no.
>
>Rick Henderson
>
>---- David Young 
><<mailto:youngmdavid%40gmail.com>youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> > There are several software packages that will do it. I use Acronis to clone
> > drives but have never fiddled with partioning.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Joseph 
> Wright <<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>jos.wright@...>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian:
> > >
> > > I thought about a second drive. I has several, but the computer didn't
> > > recognize them, even from the open SATA port. I probably should just
> > > setup an actual server and map drives that way. I am running a network
> > > which may have seven computers on it at any given time.
> > >
> > > It's not a critical thing, but would make pathing files easy when doing
> > > contract work for GM.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Correcting one mistake, my version says on the slider it goes to 15.9 mag (?) it only shows 8 mag stars.

I think my version does not have dec/RA grids.  They use the same basic format for all three but don't include some features.  



On Jan 19, 2012, at 2:34 AM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...m> wrote:

> George:  To turn Sky Safari into the star chart mode go to "Settings > Appearance > Inverse Monochrome Chart".  This makes the chart background white.  If you want it black, use "Monochrome Chart" instead.  For the RA/Dec grid go to "Grid & Reference" then turn '"On" the Show Grid button.  You can also turn on "Celestial Equator", "Celestial Poles", etc. if you want.  You might also want to turn off "Show Horizon an Sky" so that you can see the sky below the horizon.
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Sky charts att: Tom M.
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> So far I have not mastered Basic SF but the mag depends on the scale, max 15.9 for stars, a little deeper for extended objects.  Touch anything and get data.  Have not figured out to make it like a star chart with coordinates (RA/DEC). Goes red for scope side use.  Expands and contracts by fingers.  Has lots of info on all objects.  Looks like it could replace all I use. 
>> 
>> I sure wouldn't call it a toy, more like next generation astro library.  At my age the phone version is much too small to see well. 
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> George:  Sometimes old dogs surprise me with what they can do.  I never thought you would touch an iPad, much less own one!  It is a nice toy, isn't it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Apple app store has Wil Tirion star charts for the iPad for $3.99.  I don't have them on my iPad, but they look pretty cool in the store window

For 2011, the IRS milage allowance rate for cars/vans for charitable activities is (gulp) 14 cents/mile.

Dave H. 

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George -
Here is the webpage which shows what is available in the different versions for the iPod Touch, iPad and iPhone:
http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari/versions.html
and for those running OSX, here is the page for those versions:
http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari_mac/versions.html

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Correcting one mistake, my version says on the slider it goes to 15.9 mag (?) it only shows 8 mag stars.
> 
> I think my version does not have dec/RA grids.  They use the same basic format for all three but don't include some features.  

Finally found it in the manual.  The $3 version does NOT have grid lines for RA/Dec.  Only on Pro & Plus.  Rats!



On Jan 19, 2012, at 6:00 PM, "SC285" <webmaster@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> George -
> Here is the webpage which shows what is available in the different versions for the iPod Touch, iPad and iPhone:
> http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari/versions.html
> and for those running OSX, here is the page for those versions:
> http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari_mac/versions.html
> 
> Rob
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Correcting one mistake, my version says on the slider it goes to 15.9 mag (?) it only shows 8 mag stars.
>> 
>> I think my version does not have dec/RA grids.  They use the same basic format for all three but don't include some features.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Rob:  Thanks for the links.  I'd love to see it your Mac sometime.
It's strange that the various versions for the iPad and the Mac all have identical databases and features, but the memory for the Mac is almost double what it is for the iPad.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: SC285 <webmaster@lunar-occultations.com>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:00 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] Re: Sky charts att: Tom M.
> 
>
>  
>
>
>George -
>Here is the webpage which shows what is available in the different versions for the iPod Touch, iPad and iPhone:
>http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari/versions.html
>and for those running OSX, here is the page for those versions:
>http://www.southernstars.com/products/skysafari_mac/versions.html
>
>Rob
>
>--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>>
>> Correcting one mistake, my version says on the slider it goes to 15.9 mag (?) it only shows 8 mag stars.
>> 
>> I think my version does not have dec/RA grids.  They use the same basic format for all three but don't include some features. 
>
>
> 
>
>

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anybody going to give DSS a try?
Mike Sterling


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Someone more in the know could maybe answer that but I think it depends on the operating system. The Macs use OSX operating system where the iPads, iPhones use what is called OS4 or OS5. I am sure chip speed, memory and screen real estate has a lot to do with it. For example I have SkySafari on my iPod (v2) and the graphics just aren't the same as on the iMac which I run at 1670x1050 with a 2.6ghz chip speed, and 4 gigs of memory. They program the software for what appliance it is going to run on. Just saying....

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
> Rob:  Thanks for the links.  I'd love to see it your Mac sometime.
> It's strange that the various versions for the iPad and the Mac all have identical databases and features, but the memory for the Mac is almost double what it is for the iPad.
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

Mike:

We have our Scout troop coming up for a camp-out.
Might set the pile on file out in the field.

Joe


mikekansascity@... wrote:
>
>
> anybody going to give DSS a try?
> Mike Sterling
>
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>
> 

when?



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From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2012 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] DSS?


Mike:
We have our Scout troop coming up for a camp-out.
ight set the pile on file out in the field.
Joe

ikekansascity@... wrote:


 anybody going to give DSS a try?
 Mike Sterling

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Mike:

The troop should be hear by 9:30 Saturday morning and stay until Sunday 
morning.  If it isn't too windy, I'll torch the fire after dinner, steak 
fajita's.


Joe

Hey Mike,
If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
Steve 
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
>
> 
> anybody going to give DSS a try?
> Mike Sterling
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them
recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to
what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on the
screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and this
way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or Powell.
I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going.
Great tool.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu
<descarte@...>wrote:

>
> Hey Mike,
> If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new
> gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very
> promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
> Steve
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > anybody going to give DSS a try?
> > Mike Sterling
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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http://www.twisterdata.com is also a very good website. I use them and
another program that I have for when I storm chase. Also, when using real
time satellite images you can see what is west of KC and can plan
accordingly.

If you have any questions, let me know.
-Brian Davidson
816-820-0444




On January 19, 2012 at 11:20 PM "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
wrote:

> Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them
> recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to
> what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on
the
> screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and
this
> way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or
Powell.
> I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going.
> Great tool.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu
> <descarte@...>wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> > If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new
> > gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very
> > promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
> > Steve
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > anybody going to give DSS a try?
> > > Mike Sterling
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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You can animate the weather for last 6 hours also.

I like using the NOAA Graphical Forecasts: http://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/centplains.php
Just put your cursor over the various times next to "Sky Cover".  Forecasts for the next few days are fairly accurate.

I also like this one: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;a=USA/MO/Amoret
The link is set for Amoret, MO, the town just north of the DSS.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: "IggyKC@gmail.com" <iggykc@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: DSS?
> 
>
>  
>Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them
>recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to
>what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on the
>screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and this
>way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or Powell.
>I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going.
>Great tool.
>
>On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu
><descarte@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Mike,
>> If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new
>> gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very
>> promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
>> Steve
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > anybody going to give DSS a try?
>> > Mike Sterling
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
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I ran across this formula when looking at another thread I was 
following.  The Drake equation is a formula for estimating how many 
civilizations may be in the galaxy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

it is a form of a Fermi problem, which is a type of problem of 
estimating the value of a problem based on less than desired amount of 
information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferim_problem

The orginal thread I was (am) following was an article on dumb interview 
questions with a focus on those asked if you try to get on at Google.  
One of the questions was the piano tuner puzzle in the Fermi article.

Jim

On 1/11/2012 7:35 PM, jim s wrote:
> This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
> observation of the planetary body via direct means.

Wow, this is not an easy website for the average person.  I tried finding a page that shows cloud cover forecast but failed.  The tutorial page did nothing to help.  Would you show us how to find cloud cover forecast?

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: Photography by Davidson <brian@photographybydavidson.com>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: DSS?
> 
>
>  
>http://www.twisterdata.com is also a very good website. I use them and
>another program that I have for when I storm chase. Also, when using real
>time satellite images you can see what is west of KC and can plan
>accordingly.
>
>If you have any questions, let me know.
>-Brian Davidson
>816-820-0444
>
>On January 19, 2012 at 11:20 PM "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
>wrote:
>
>> Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them
>> recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to
>> what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on
>the
>> screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and
>this
>> way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or
>Powell.
>> I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going.
>> Great tool.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu
>> <descarte@...>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Hey Mike,
>> > If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new
>> > gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very
>> > promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
>> > Steve
>> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > anybody going to give DSS a try?
>> > > Mike Sterling
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally on Saturday.


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Will the best spot be the DSS? I might have to head down there with my
camera.

Thanks for the heads up!

-Brian




On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally on
Saturday.
>
>
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>

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This is a picture of it, correct?
http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg

Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow "Saturday"
it will hit Earth?


Thanks,
-Brian




On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally on
Saturday.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Give weatherspark dot com a look see. I kind of like it.

Gary

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:20 PM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them
> recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to
> what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on the
> screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and this
> way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or Powell.
> I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going.
> Great tool.
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu
> <descarte@...>wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> > If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new
> > gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very
> > promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
> > Steve
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > anybody going to give DSS a try?
> > > Mike Sterling
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>


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http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif

Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow = 9:30 AM - 11:30 PM CST.  So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be before midnight.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> wrote:
>
> This is a picture of it, correct?
> http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> 
> Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow "Saturday"
> it will hit Earth?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> -Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> 
> > A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally on
> Saturday.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.

Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
confirmation.


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 I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

 

 

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From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
Subject: [ASKC] school nights


  
    
                  
We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.

Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
confirmation.

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What are the dates again?

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Neuenschwander
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:12 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] school nights

 

  


I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?

Thank you,

David Neuenschwander

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <youngmdavid@... <mailto:youngmdavid%40gmail.com> >
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
Subject: [ASKC] school nights

We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.

Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
confirmation.

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Off site at Brookwood Elementary Math and Science night


Date:
Thursday January 26, 2012






Author:
dyoung8us

Type:
Appointment  

Reminder:
There are reminders set for 2 days and 4 days before this event.



Sara Gilmore c=816-714-4472 h=913-385-0665

Set up at 5PM for 6:30 to 8:30 event
3411 West 103



Off site at Trailwood Elementary School


Date:
Friday January 27, 2012

Time:
5:30 pm - 8:30 pm

Author:
dyoung8us

Type:
Appointment  

Reminder:
There is a reminder set for 2 days before this event.

Trailwood Elementary school
5101 West 95th Street
 

 

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From: Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:31 pm
Subject: RE: [ASKC] school nights


  
    
                  
What are the dates again?

Rick Henderson




 


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David, 
        I can bring a scope and help out on both nights.
                                                 John Fitzgerald

--- On Fri, 1/20/12, David Neuenschwander <david9660@...> wrote:

From: David Neuenschwander <david9660@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] school nights
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 3:57 PM
















 



  


    
      
      
      

 

Off site at Brookwood Elementary Math and Science night



Date:

Thursday January 26, 2012



Author:

dyoung8us



Type:

Appointment  



Reminder:

There are reminders set for 2 days and 4 days before this event.



Sara Gilmore c=816-714-4472 h=913-385-0665



Set up at 5PM for 6:30 to 8:30 event

3411 West 103



Off site at Trailwood Elementary School



Date:

Friday January 27, 2012



Time:

5:30 pm - 8:30 pm



Author:

dyoung8us



Type:

Appointment  



Reminder:

There is a reminder set for 2 days before this event.



Trailwood Elementary school

5101 West 95th Street

 



-----Original Message-----

From: Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>

To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:31 pm

Subject: RE: [ASKC] school nights



What are the dates again?



Rick Henderson



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I have my kids use the eq each year to find out what they think. The answers vary so much it is really cool to see who is optimistic and pessimistic!

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, jim s <jws@...> wrote:
>
> I ran across this formula when looking at another thread I was 
> following.  The Drake equation is a formula for estimating how many 
> civilizations may be in the galaxy.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
> 
> it is a form of a Fermi problem, which is a type of problem of 
> estimating the value of a problem based on less than desired amount of 
> information.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferim_problem
> 
> The orginal thread I was (am) following was an article on dumb interview 
> questions with a focus on those asked if you try to get on at Google.  
> One of the questions was the piano tuner puzzle in the Fermi article.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 1/11/2012 7:35 PM, jim s wrote:
> > This allows an estimate based on a method that does not depend on
> > observation of the planetary body via direct means.
>

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to add a partition a drive without formatting and losing 
> everything on an existing drive?  Basically, I want to create a G drive.
> 
> I was thinking of creating a drive to be identical to the drive I use at GM.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

Gparted is available as free open source software. (Only booted it from Ubuntu, but it appears to be usable on other operating systems). I used it successfully to add a partition when I dual booted linux on my vista PC without losing any of my existing data. However, I did take the precaution of making boot disks and doing a full system backup before attempting this.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Tim Hendricks

Missouri Resources magazine(free from DNR to MO residents/taxpayers) this quarter has a short story on Missouri meteorite impact sites.
Interesting that so many have occurred along the 38th parallel.

Grant Miller
Warrenburg

No tools, but I can help out on Thursday the 26th.
Dave Brackey


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Neuenschwander <david9660@...> wrote:
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> 
>  I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> David Neuenschwander
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> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
> Subject: [ASKC] school nights
> 
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> We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
> volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
> but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
> Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
> Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.
> 
> Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
> confirmation.
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I can do these to if I'm needed. What do we do and do we need to take a scope or?

Dave

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Neuenschwander <david9660@...> wrote:
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> 
>  I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> David Neuenschwander
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
> Subject: [ASKC] school nights
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
> volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
> but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
> Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
> Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.
> 
> Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
> confirmation.
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With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable
tonight?

I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make the
drive for nothing.




On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif
>
> Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT ±7 hrs tomorrow = 9:30 AM
- 11:30 PM CST.  So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be before
midnight.
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> wrote:
> >
> > This is a picture of it, correct?
> > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> >
> > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow
"Saturday"
> > it will hit Earth?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Brian
> >
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> > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
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No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure as
heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be
heading north instead of south.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson <
brian@...> wrote:

> **
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> With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable
> tonight?
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> I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make the
> drive for nothing.
>
>
> On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
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> > http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif
> >
> > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow = 9:30
> AM
> - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be before
> midnight.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a picture of it, correct?
> > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> > >
> > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow
> "Saturday"
> > > it will hit Earth?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally on
> > > Saturday.
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How far north? I know the farther north you can go the better but not sure.

Thanks




On January 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM David Young <youngmdavid@gmail.com> wrote:

> No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure as
> heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be
> heading north instead of south.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson <
> brian@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable
> > tonight?
> >
> > I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make
the
> > drive for nothing.
> >
> >
> > On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif
> > >
> > > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT ±7 hrs tomorrow =
9:30
> > AM
> > - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be
before
> > midnight.
> > >
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is a picture of it, correct?
> > > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow
> > "Saturday"
> > > > it will hit Earth?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> > > >
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Well, Canada comes to mind but I don't think I'd get that carried away. You
need to watch the space weather site and watch the K level. If it hits 7
head for Joe's place up by Lawson. Dark enough to be usefull but to far to
be practical. Plus if he knows you are coming he might dig out a couple of
scopes and do a little observing while you wait for aurora that probably
won't show anyway. Aurora's are like cats and comets.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Photography by Davidson <
brian@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> How far north? I know the farther north you can go the better but not sure.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On January 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> > No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure as
> > heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be
> > heading north instead of south.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson <
> > brian@photographybydavidson.com> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable
> > > tonight?
> > >
> > > I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make
> the
> > > drive for nothing.
> > >
> > >
> > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif
> > > >
> > > > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow =
> 9:30
> > > AM
> > > - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be
> before
> > > midnight.
> > > >
> > > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a picture of it, correct?
> > > > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow
> > > "Saturday"
> > > > > it will hit Earth?
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> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Brian
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> > > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...>
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If anyone goes to the DSS in the near future, please look around the 
building for my Fanon bull horn.

Thanks,

Joe

Courtesy of Peter Werkowitch, Powell now has a really kick-astro computer
for the classroom.  Thank you Peter!

 

It has dual video outs and so now the monitor and the projector both have a
nice,  bright, high quality image.  Plus, the video refresh rate is amazing.
I ran Stellarium 0.10.3 at almost 60 frames a second so there was absolutely
no lag in any screen updates or animation.

 

It's a quad-core system and I had a spare copy of Vista 64-bit so it will
look a bit different when you next use it as well. 

 

It has AVG anti-virus, Office 2003, Adobe Reader, TheSky version 5 and
Stellarium installed and all ran very well.

 

One casualty, though, is our 15+ year old printer.  So, if anyone has a
network interface, inkjet or laserjet printer they no longer want, please
let me know.

 

As a reminder, please note that Powell is closed until February 14th for
repairs and upgrades.

 

Rick Henderson



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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
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Off site at Brookwood Elementary Math and Science night
Thursday January 26, 2012
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
(The next reminder for this event will be sent in 2 days, 4 minutes.)

Notes:
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Thanks.

 

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From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stevepocock_kc0ngu
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:53 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: DSS?

 

  


Hey Mike,
If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new gear
acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very promising,
but if it looks half decent I intend on going.
Steve 
--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
mikekansascity@... wrote:
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> anybody going to give DSS a try?
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from about 40 miles WNW of Omaha, NE........... 



The clouds cleared off shortly after sunset but the 40-45 mph winds continued all night long. The temperature was about 15 degrees. I went out every hour for a good 10-15 minutes from sunset to about 1:00am. Could see down to magnitude 5.8 naked-eye. Seen a couple beautiful long, bright meteors, and LOTS of satellites, but no aurora. 


-Scott 


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From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:22:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: aurora? 

Well, Canada comes to mind but I don't think I'd get that carried away. You 
need to watch the space weather site and watch the K level. If it hits 7 
head for Joe's place up by Lawson. Dark enough to be usefull but to far to 
be practical. Plus if he knows you are coming he might dig out a couple of 
scopes and do a little observing while you wait for aurora that probably 
won't show anyway. Aurora's are like cats and comets. 

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Photography by Davidson < 
brian@...> wrote: 

> ** 
> 
> 
> How far north? I know the farther north you can go the better but not sure. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> 
> On January 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote: 
> 
> > No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure as 
> > heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be 
> > heading north instead of south. 
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson < 
> > brian@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > > ** 
> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable 
> > > tonight? 
> > > 
> > > I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make 
> the 
> > > drive for nothing. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif 
> > > > 
> > > > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow = 
> 9:30 
> > > AM 
> > > - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be 
> before 
> > > midnight. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is a picture of it, correct? 
> > > > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow 
> > > "Saturday" 
> > > > > it will hit Earth? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > -Brian 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally 
> on 
> > > > > Saturday. 
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After the October aurora, I downloaded the Aurora Buddy app for my Droid phone.   Last night, towards dawn, I received two alerts over my phone.   I got up the 2nd time and looked out, only to see the clouds everywhere.    Bummer!     At least, the app worked.

 

Jackie B.

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of s.kranz1@...
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: aurora?

 

  



from about 40 miles WNW of Omaha, NE........... 

The clouds cleared off shortly after sunset but the 40-45 mph winds continued all night long. The temperature was about 15 degrees. I went out every hour for a good 10-15 minutes from sunset to about 1:00am. Could see down to magnitude 5.8 naked-eye. Seen a couple beautiful long, bright meteors, and LOTS of satellites, but no aurora. 

-Scott 

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@... <mailto:youngmdavid%40gmail.com> > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:22:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: aurora? 

Well, Canada comes to mind but I don't think I'd get that carried away. You 
need to watch the space weather site and watch the K level. If it hits 7 
head for Joe's place up by Lawson. Dark enough to be usefull but to far to 
be practical. Plus if he knows you are coming he might dig out a couple of 
scopes and do a little observing while you wait for aurora that probably 
won't show anyway. Aurora's are like cats and comets. 

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Photography by Davidson < 
brian@... <mailto:brian%40photographybydavidson.com> > wrote: 

> ** 
> 
> 
> How far north? I know the farther north you can go the better but not sure. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> 
> On January 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM David Young <youngmdavid@...m <mailto:youngmdavid%40gmail.com> > wrote: 
> 
> > No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure as 
> > heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be 
> > heading north instead of south. 
> > 
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson < 
> > brian@... <mailto:brian%40photographybydavidson.com> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > ** 
> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be viable 
> > > tonight? 
> > > 
> > > I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to make 
> the 
> > > drive for nothing. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@... <mailto:jay_manifold%40yahoo.com> > 
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif 
> > > > 
> > > > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow = 
> 9:30 
> > > AM 
> > > - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be 
> before 
> > > midnight. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , Photography by Davidson <brian@...> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is a picture of it, correct? 
> > > > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow 
> > > "Saturday" 
> > > > > it will hit Earth? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > -Brian 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora locally 
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I saw a report on the TV that showed the CME hitting Norway on tonights 
news here.  No way we get anything though, from lights to latitude.

Jim

On 1/22/2012 7:44 PM, Jackie Beucher wrote:
> After the October aurora, I downloaded the Aurora Buddy app for my Droid phone.   Last night, towards dawn, I received two alerts over my phone.   I got up the 2nd time and looked out, only to see the clouds everywhere.    Bummer!     At least, the app worked.
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> Jackie B.

I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
at the turnoff from 69 highway.
There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
be handy for you camper owners.


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I just checked the MidStates web site and was surprised to find a report
about the MidStates convention. Tom told me last week that he was working
on the web site  but I didn't expect such rapid progress. Things are still
under construction but the page looks great so far. Thanks Tom, for your
efforts.

Everyone should drop by the site (msral dot org) on a regular basis to stay
informed on news breaks. I'll be posting more information as it comes
available.

Clear skies,

Gary Pittman
Convention Co-chair
and
Registrar


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Requesting that these nights be reserved for Bill Koch's JCCC class.

Duty pairs are undefined prior to Sat 3/3, so volunteers are needed.  Based on past years, we will probably get at least 1 classroom full.  I will assist & create/give presentation.

Did anyone get down to the DSS this past weekend (January 20, 21, 22)? 



-scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Tom Martinez" <zenitrammot@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:54:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: DSS? 

  




Wow, this is not an easy website for the average person.  I tried finding a page that shows cloud cover forecast but failed.  The tutorial page did nothing to help.  Would you show us how to find cloud cover forecast? 

  
Tom J Martinez 
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/ 

>________________________________ 
> From: Photography by Davidson < brian@... > 
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:48 PM 
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: DSS? 
> 
> 
>  
> http://www.twisterdata.com is also a very good website. I use them and 
>another program that I have for when I storm chase. Also, when using real 
>time satellite images you can see what is west of KC and can plan 
>accordingly. 
> 
>If you have any questions, let me know. 
>-Brian Davidson 
>816-820-0444 
> 
>On January 19, 2012 at 11:20 PM " IggyKC@... " < iggykc@... > 
>wrote: 
> 
>> Check clouds intensity on weatherunderground.com - I've been using them 
>> recently with great success to watch and compare weather in real time to 
>> what I see on the screen. You can adjust opacity of the cloud cover on 
>the 
>> screen by % in accordance with what you see outside of your house and 
>this 
>> way virtually ensure you will not waste your time driving to DSS or 
>Powell. 
>> I watch it every few hours and can see in advance where clouds are going. 
>> Great tool. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:52 PM, stevepocock_kc0ngu 
>> < descarte@... >wrote: 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Hey Mike, 
>> > If the conditions look OK I need to get to the DSS and fire up some new 
>> > gear acquired over the last month. Clear sky clock not looking very 
>> > promising, but if it looks half decent I intend on going. 
>> > Steve 
>> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , mikekansascity@... wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > anybody going to give DSS a try? 
>> > > Mike Sterling 
>> > > 
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /RV-Dump-Station-near-DSS.jpg 
  Uploaded by : tom_j_martinez <zenitrammot@...> 
  Description : Map of Dump Station for RVs near the DSS 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/RV-Dump-Station-near-DSS.jpg 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html
Regards,

tom_j_martinez <zenitrammot@...>
 

Most RV owners who use the DSS already know about the dump station, and it is free, but, there should be a sign placed at the DSS to let people know about this very handy resource.  This should be mentioned in the Heart of America Star Party website and registration papers we send to attendees also.  I have placed a map of the Rest Area in the Files area:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:46 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] getting rid of "stuff"
> 
>
>  
>I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
>down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
>at the turnoff from 69 highway.
>There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
>be handy for you camper owners.
>
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Aloha David - I can do one of the school nights. I can bring my 8 in. DOB. Just let me know which one is most in need of people. Thanks. Take care, Fred

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "david" <david.lane07@...> wrote:
>
> I can do these to if I'm needed. What do we do and do we need to take a scope or?
> 
> Dave
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Neuenschwander <david9660@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >  I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > David Neuenschwander
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Young <youngmdavid@>
> > To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
> > Subject: [ASKC] school nights
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >     
> >                   
> > We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
> > volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
> > but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
> > Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
> > Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.
> > 
> > Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
> > confirmation.
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Is there a school night on blue springs?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:48 AM, "fredcollison" <fredcollison@...> wrote:

> Aloha David - I can do one of the school nights. I can bring my 8 in. DOB. Just let me know which one is most in need of people. Thanks. Take care, Fred
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "david" <david.lane07@...> wrote:
> >
> > I can do these to if I'm needed. What do we do and do we need to take a scope or?
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Neuenschwander <david9660@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > 
> > > David Neuenschwander
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Young <youngmdavid@>
> > > To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
> > > Subject: [ASKC] school nights
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
> > > volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
> > > but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
> > > Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
> > > Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.
> > > 
> > > Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
> > > confirmation.
> > > 
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Sorry, I meant is there a school night on Wednesday? I think it was going to be blue springs 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Brian Davidson <brian@...> wrote:

> Is there a school night on blue springs?
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> 
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:48 AM, "fredcollison" <fredcollison@...> wrote:
> 
> > Aloha David - I can do one of the school nights. I can bring my 8 in. DOB. Just let me know which one is most in need of people. Thanks. Take care, Fred
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "david" <david.lane07@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can do these to if I'm needed. What do we do and do we need to take a scope or?
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Neuenschwander <david9660@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I can do these. Does either school have room / need for the StarLab?
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > 
> > > > David Neuenschwander
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Young <youngmdavid@>
> > > > To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 2:50 pm
> > > > Subject: [ASKC] school nights
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We have a couple of School Science nights on the calendar next week but no
> > > > volunteers. Both are schools we have parcipated in every year for a while
> > > > but it looks like we won't be joining them this year. Trailwood is in
> > > > Overland Park at between Nall and Roe on 95th street. Brookwood is in
> > > > Leewood just east or Mission road on 103rd.
> > > > 
> > > > Due to apparent lack of interest I haven't replied to either school with a
> > > > confirmation.
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Another cool new free NASA app for the iPhone (and I'm pretty sure they've made it available for Android as well).

More info at the itunes apple site....
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meteor-counter/id466896415?mt=8

Be a part of NASA meteor research with Meteor Counter! 

When you 
go out to watch a meteor shower, bring your iPhone with you. With Meteor
 Counter, you can easily capture meteor observations with an innovative 
"piano key" interface. As you tap the keys, Meteor Counter records 
critical data for each meteor: time, magnitude, latitude, and longitude,
 along with optional verbal annotations. 

Afterward, these data are automatically uploaded to NASA researchers for analysis.

Meteor
 Counter also provides a news feed and event calendar, which are updated
 by professional scientists to keep you informed of the latest meteor 
happenings and upcoming showers.

It's everything a meteor hound needs to get informed and get involved!

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Not sure who to ask but we have a request via our ASKC Facebook page.
This would be a request for our outreach director (or similar). There is a group trying to establish an astronomy research center for the youth of Nepal. And have asked to do some sort of exchange program with our club. 


If you frequent Facebook, here's their info within Facebook: 

http://www.facebook.com/astronomynepal?sk=info

Kiran Adhikari is the contact.�
jkarcnepal@...
I have his phone number if you really want it but suspect you'd rather not have that long distance charge.� :)

Who could I point him to within our club? 


Thanks, 

Cindy

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Scott:

Saw LOTS of snowflakes here in Utah -- but nary an aurora!  It seems that
Jackie messed up when she packed my stuff and sent me the "Cloud Filter"
instead of the "Snow Filter"!!!

 Jim Marsh



On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
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>
> from about 40 miles WNW of Omaha, NE...........
>
> The clouds cleared off shortly after sunset but the 40-45 mph winds
> continued all night long. The temperature was about 15 degrees. I went ou!t
> every hour for a good 10-15 minutes from sunset to about 1:00am. Could see
> down to magnitude 5.8 naked-eye. Seen a couple beautiful long, bright
> meteors, and LOTS of satellites, but no aurora.
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:22:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: aurora?
>
> Well, Canada comes to mind but I don't think I'd get that carried away.
> You
> need to watch the space weather site and watch the K level. If it hits 7
> head for Joe's place up by Lawson. Dark enough to be usefull but to far to
> be practical. Plus if he knows you are coming he might dig out a couple of
> scopes and do a little observing while you wait for aurora that probably
> won't show anyway. Aurora's are like cats and comets.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Photography by Davidson <
> brian@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > How far north? I know the farther north you can go the better but not
> sure.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On January 21, 2012 at 1:40 PM David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > No guarantee there will even be aurora visable this far south and sure
> as
> > > heck won't be if its cloudy. If I was despirate to see aurora I'd be
> > > heading north instead of south.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Photography by Davidson <
> > > brian@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With the increasing chance of cloud cover, are they going to be
> viable
> > > > tonight?
> > > >
> > > > I might be planning on going to the DSS tonight but don't want to
> make
> > the
> > > > drive for nothing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> http://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/downloads/20120119_183400_anim.tim-den.gif
> > > > >
> > > > > Per spaceweather.com, predicted arrival 2230 UT �7 hrs tomorrow =
> > 9:30
> > > > AM
> > > > - 11:30 PM CST. So if we're going to see anything, it ought to be
> > before
> > > > midnight.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Photography by Davidson <brian@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a picture of it, correct?
> > > > > > http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_0335.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, how fast does a CME travel? Do we know what time Tomorrow
> > > > "Saturday"
> > > > > > it will hit Earth?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On January 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> > wrote:
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> > > > > > > A CME is headed our way. Might have a chance for aurora
> locally
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> > > > > > Saturday.
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*


NASA's Orion Spacecraft to Land in Oklahoma, Texas and Alabama*

A test version of NASA's Orion spacecraft soon will make a cross-country 
journey, giving residents in three states the chance to see a full-scale 
test version of the vehicle that will take humans into deep space.

The crew module will make stops during a trip from the White Sands 
Missile Range in New Mexico to the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The 
planned stops include *Jan. 24-25 at Science Museum Oklahoma in Oklahoma 
City*; *Jan. 27-29 at Victory Park and the American Airlines Center in 
Dallas*; and, *Feb. 1-2 at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in 
Huntsville, Ala*. Engineers, program officials, astronauts and NASA 
spokespeople will be available to speak with the media and the public.

The full-scale test vehicle was used by ground crews in advance of the 
launch abort system flight test that took place in New Mexico in 2010. 
Orion will serve as the vehicle that takes astronauts beyond low-Earth 
orbit, and the first orbital flight test is scheduled for 2014.

To see photos of the pad abort test, visit 
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/mpcv/gallery/abort_test/index.htm <http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/mpcv/gallery/abort_test/index.html> 
.

For more information on the each of the sites, visit

Science Museum Oklahoma: http://www.sciencemuseumok.org 
<http://www.sciencemuseumok.org/>.

American Airlines Center: http://www.americanairlinescenter.com 
<http://www.americanairlinescenter.com/>.

U.S. Space and Rocket Center: http://www.ussrc.com <http://www.ussrc.com/>.




Joe

I'm trying to contact Mike Larkin. If anybody can get in touch with him let me know.  Thanks

I assume the phone number in the ASKC directory (816-228-5285) is
incorrect? The directory number and the number I have are both the same.

Gary

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM, kings621 <kings621@...> wrote:

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>
> I'm trying to contact Mike Larkin. If anybody can get in touch with him
> let me know. Thanks
>
>  
>


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I have called several times, it ring for a while then turns to a busy
signal.




On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...> wrote:

> I assume the phone number in the ASKC directory (816-228-5285) is
> incorrect? The directory number and the number I have are both the same.
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:38 PM, kings621 <kings621@...> wrote:
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> > I'm trying to contact Mike Larkin. If anybody can get in touch with him
> > let me know. Thanks
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The last time I dumped there, I couldn't get any water after dumping. It looked 
like they were still working on the area. Maybe water will be avilable when 
it warms up.
 Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 11:09:09 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS

  
Most RV owners who use the DSS already know about the dump station, and it is 
free, but, there should be a sign placed at the DSS to let people know about 
this very handy resource.  This should be mentioned in the Heart of America Star 
Party website and registration papers we send to attendees also.  I have placed 
a map of the Rest Area in the Files area:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:46 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] getting rid of "stuff"
> 
>
>  
>I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
>down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
>at the turnoff from 69 highway.
>There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
>be handy for you camper owners.
>
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> 
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The water was flowing just fine last October.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
> 
>
>  
>The last time I dumped there, I couldn't get any water after dumping. It looked 
>like they were still working on the area. Maybe water will be avilable when 
>it warms up.
> Under Spacious Skies,
>Randy 
>
>________________________________
>From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 11:09:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
>
>  
>Most RV owners who use the DSS already know about the dump station, and it is 
>free, but, there should be a sign placed at the DSS to let people know about 
>this very handy resource.  This should be mentioned in the Heart of America Star 
>Party website and registration papers we send to attendees also.  I have placed 
>a map of the Rest Area in the Files area:
>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/
>
> 
>Tom J Martinez
>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
>>________________________________
>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:46 PM
>>Subject: [ASKC] getting rid of "stuff"
>> 
>>
>>  
>>I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
>>down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
>>at the turnoff from 69 highway.
>>There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
>>be handy for you camper owners.
>>
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I haven't been to the DSS for over a year. I'm glad they have water to refill 
your holding tank with fresh water at the State rest area. Thanks for the info 
Tom. Maybe I'll use it this year sometime.
 Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 1:24:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS

  
The water was flowing just fine last October.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
> 
>
>  
>The last time I dumped there, I couldn't get any water after dumping. It looked 

>like they were still working on the area. Maybe water will be avilable when 
>it warms up.
> Under Spacious Skies,
>Randy 
>
>________________________________
>From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 11:09:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
>
>  
>Most RV owners who use the DSS already know about the dump station, and it is 
>free, but, there should be a sign placed at the DSS to let people know about 
>this very handy resource.  This should be mentioned in the Heart of America Star 
>
>Party website and registration papers we send to attendees also.  I have placed 

>a map of the Rest Area in the Files area:
>http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/
>
> 
>Tom J Martinez
>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
>>________________________________
>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:46 PM
>>Subject: [ASKC] getting rid of "stuff"
>> 
>>
>>  
>>I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
>>down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
>>at the turnoff from 69 highway.
>>There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
>>be handy for you camper owners.
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At the moment it looks like one guy with access to a computer, English as a second language, and interest in crank cosmological theories.  I'll keep looking through his various webpages, but I haven't yet seen where he's doing any amateur astronomy or indicated an ability to "exchange" anything.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Cindy Chesley <cindylchesley@...> wrote:
>
> Not sure who to ask but we have a request via our ASKC Facebook page.
> This would be a request for our outreach director (or similar). There is a group trying to establish an astronomy research center for the youth of Nepal. And have asked to do some sort of exchange program with our club. 
> 
> 
> If you frequent Facebook, here's their info within Facebook: 
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/astronomynepal?sk=info
> 
> Kiran Adhikari is the contact.�
> jkarcnepal@...
> I have his phone number if you really want it but suspect you'd rather not have that long distance charge.� :)
> 
> Who could I point him to within our club? 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Cindy
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Steve Try to get a number from Bob Sandy,  Mike has moved out to the family 
farm. East of KC. He does get into KC
every so often.

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steve king" <kings621@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Little Help Please


> 

About twice per year I get written requests like this, and last month I got
an email one---and it might have been this name.  I couldn't tell that
there was an actual thing we could offer and the  CCT (crank cosmological
theroies) are the predominate theme.

Denise

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> At the moment it looks like one guy with access to a computer, English as
> a second language, and interest in crank cosmological theories. I'll keep
> looking through his various webpages, but I haven't yet seen where he's
> doing any amateur astronomy or indicated an ability to "exchange" anything.
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Cindy Chesley <cindylchesley@...> wrote:
> >
> > Not sure who to ask but we have a request via our ASKC Facebook page.
> > This would be a request for our outreach director (or similar). There is
> a group trying to establish an astronomy research center for the youth of
> Nepal. And have asked to do some sort of exchange program with our club.
> >
> >
> > If you frequent Facebook, here's their info within Facebook:
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/astronomynepal?sk=info
> >
> > Kiran Adhikari is the contact.
> > jkarcnepal@...
>
> > I have his phone number if you really want it but suspect you'd rather
> not have that long distance charge.  :)
> >
> > Who could I point him to within our club?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cindy
> >
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Off site at Brookwood Elementary Math and Science night
Thursday January 26, 2012
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 Will be using the StarLab. Extra presenters inside are a big help, it can get loud with the fan and you have to yell a bit. 

They are looking forward to having us, we were first dibs in the gym for the portable planetarium.

See you there,

David Neuenschwander

 

 

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It's time to get stuff in for the February issue, please. Let's make  
the deadline Jan. 29.

Thanks!
Marcia

Just a reminder to update the list of Board Members.

Thanks,

JK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcia Young" <mryoung@...>
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Feb CM


> It's time to get stuff in for the February issue, please. Let's make  
> the deadline Jan. 29.
> 
> Thanks!
> Marcia
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Good point.  Jim Ketchum has filled Nancy Vaught's position as a board
member at large.

 

Thank you Jim.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Ketchum
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:53 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Feb CM

 

  

Just a reminder to update the list of Board Members.

Thanks,

JK
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From: "Marcia Young" <mryoung@... <mailto:mryoung%40kc.rr.com> >
To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Feb CM

> It's time to get stuff in for the February issue, please. Let's make 
> the deadline Jan. 29.
> 
> Thanks!
> Marcia
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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thank you!
On Jan 24, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Jim Ketchum wrote:

>
> Just a reminder to update the list of Board Members.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Young" <mryoung@...>
> To: "ASKC" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:04 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Feb CM
>
> > It's time to get stuff in for the February issue, please. Let's make
> > the deadline Jan. 29.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Marcia
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just a FYI... 



With the transit of Venus coming up, there is likely to be many novices just getting into the hobby and/or looking for solar observing advice. 



Apparently, there is at least one astronomy dealer telling people that in order to even see the transit, a h-alpha solar telescope is REQUIRED. 



I set the guy straight. 



......just saying, be careful out there! 



-scott 

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Off site at Trailwood Elementary School
Friday January 27, 2012
5:30 pm - 8:30 pm

Notes:
Trailwood Elementary school
5101 West 95th Street


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I don't recall if there is water to fill your RV.  The water I was talking about is next to the dump station for cleaning your hose.

Tom J. Martinez
Sent from my iPad

On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:52 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I haven't been to the DSS for over a year. I'm glad they have water to refill 
> your holding tank with fresh water at the State rest area. Thanks for the info 
> Tom. Maybe I'll use it this year sometime.
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, January 24, 2012 1:24:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
> 
>   
> The water was flowing just fine last October.
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> >________________________________
> > From: RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>
> >To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:25 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
> > 
> >
> >  
> >The last time I dumped there, I couldn't get any water after dumping. It looked 
> 
> >like they were still working on the area. Maybe water will be avilable when 
> >it warms up.
> > Under Spacious Skies,
> >Randy 
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@yahoo.com>
> >To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Mon, January 23, 2012 11:09:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] RV Dump Station near DSS
> >
> >  
> >Most RV owners who use the DSS already know about the dump station, and it is 
> >free, but, there should be a sign placed at the DSS to let people know about 
> >this very handy resource.  This should be mentioned in the Heart of America Star 
> >
> >Party website and registration papers we send to attendees also.  I have placed 
> 
> >a map of the Rest Area in the Files area:
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/
> >
> > 
> >Tom J Martinez
> >http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >
> >>________________________________
> >> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> >>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> >>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:46 PM
> >>Subject: [ASKC] getting rid of "stuff"
> >> 
> >>
> >>  
> >>I forgot to mention that we made an interesting discovery on a road trip
> >>down to Rick Singmaster's a few weeks ago. We stopped at the visitors stop
> >>at the turnoff from 69 highway.
> >>There's a dump station for campers out in the north parking lot that might
> >>be handy for you camper owners.
> >>
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Scott - I'm telling everybody to just stare straight at the sun and you will see at least at least one black dot!    Dan

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> just a FYI... 
> 
> 
> 
> With the transit of Venus coming up, there is likely to be many novices just getting into the hobby and/or looking for solar observing advice. 
> 
> 
> 
> Apparently, there is at least one astronomy dealer telling people that in order to even see the transit, a h-alpha solar telescope is REQUIRED. 
> 
> 
> 
> I set the guy straight. 
> 
> 
> 
> ......just saying, be careful out there! 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

John Fitzgerald, Steve King, David Brackey, David Lane, David Young, and
David Neuenschwander staffed the Brookwood Elementary Science Night on
Thursday. While a few 4th graders had heightened risk of bodily harm, many
were fun to have around. David N. did a zillion shows in the StarLab while
David B. herded the little screamers in and ot of the SL. Apparently my
14.5" Starmaster suffered some trauma in my garage when I had a contractor
doing some work because it was very dirty and terribly out of collimation.
Steve King wound up using it on the moon while John used his very nice
scope on Jupiter. David Lane brought some of his phenomenal photos and gave
many away to kids who could answer a simple astronomy question. Meteorites
were ogled by many. We also used two pair of 7 X 50 fixed focus binoculars
donated by personally by Matt Valdivia from the Bushnell store in Lee's
Summit. He also donated two pair of focusable binoculars. One will be kept
at Powell and another at Warko.


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"Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison when he is
sentenced in May, said the office."

Ouch.

<http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/25525?c=airport_aviation_security&utm_sourc
e=Homeland+Security+Insider+--+January+27%2C+2012&utm_campaign=January+27%2C
+2012+Insider&utm_medium=email>


 

Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
On Jan 27, 2012 10:26 AM, "Mike Stewart" <AB0VM@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison when he is
> sentenced in May, said the office."
>
> Ouch.
>
> <
> http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/25525?c=airport_aviation_security&utm_sourc
>
> e=Homeland+Security+Insider+--+January+27%2C+2012&utm_campaign=January+27%2C
> +2012+Insider&utm_medium=email>
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Wow, I can understand doing it once by mistake if you are pointing your
telescope and can prove it (I think I have heard about a case of a
malicious amateur astronomer who claimed this defence in TX????).

Last night was absolutely beautiful and clear, so I walked out on the deck
and just pointed my small refractor scope onto Orion Nebula - if I was
using a laser to point to it I would have hit an large airplane that was
not very high and was just passing by in that area - and I did not even
hear it and see it till it showed up in the finder scope (no LED light,
just two crosshairs impossible to see in the night). However, if I were
using a reflector and revese shone the laser to paint Orion Nebula I'd most
likely see the airplane.

I am sure this would not have been an issue if I immediately turned it off
and could explain if they tracked me down. But it seems that these cases
all involved either multiple lighting of the same craft of repeated laser
painting from the same area of different air craft. That is absolutely
crazy.




On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> On Jan 27, 2012 10:26 AM, "Mike Stewart" <AB0VM@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison when he is
> > sentenced in May, said the office."
> >
> > Ouch.
> >
> > <
> >
> http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/25525?c=airport_aviation_security&utm_sourc
> >
> >
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> > +2012+Insider&utm_medium=email>
> >
> >
> >
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Good grief!  The Astro-night of the Davids!!!

 

Thanks for the report.  This makes the second report of 2012 for the log
book.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:38 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Brookwood

 

  

John Fitzgerald, Steve King, David Brackey, David Lane, David Young, and
David Neuenschwander staffed the Brookwood Elementary Science Night on
Thursday. While a few 4th graders had heightened risk of bodily harm, many
were fun to have around. David N. did a zillion shows in the StarLab while
David B. herded the little screamers in and ot of the SL. Apparently my
14.5" Starmaster suffered some trauma in my garage when I had a contractor
doing some work because it was very dirty and terribly out of collimation.
Steve King wound up using it on the moon while John used his very nice
scope on Jupiter. David Lane brought some of his phenomenal photos and gave
many away to kids who could answer a simple astronomy question. Meteorites
were ogled by many. We also used two pair of 7 X 50 fixed focus binoculars
donated by personally by Matt Valdivia from the Bushnell store in Lee's
Summit. He also donated two pair of focusable binoculars. One will be kept
at Powell and another at Warko.

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Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will not be able
to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow night for
either Astro 101 or the GM.  

 

UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which is just
across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.

 

Sorry for the confusion.  We will be back in our normal rooms for the
February meetings.

 

Rick Henderson



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Or we could go the debate and heckle?  Well, maybe not. See ya'll back in
Haag Hall. Sounds like the room we met in when the remodeled Royall Hall a
few years back. If so, it's actually a pretty good room for meetings.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rick Henderson <rhenderson1@...>wrote:

> Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will not be able
> to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow night
> for
> either Astro 101 or the GM.
>
>
>
> UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which is just
> across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.
>
>
>
> Sorry for the confusion.  We will be back in our normal rooms for the
> February meetings.
>
>
>
> Rick Henderson
>
>
>
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>
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Are you going to do a blast with that info?
M
On Jan 27, 2012, at 3:01 PM, David Young wrote:

>
> Or we could go the debate and heckle? Well, maybe not. See ya'll  
> back in
> Haag Hall. Sounds like the room we met in when the remodeled Royall  
> Hall a
> few years back. If so, it's actually a pretty good room for meetings.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rick Henderson  
> <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
>
> > Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will  
> not be able
> > to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow  
> night
> > for
> > either Astro 101 or the GM.
> >
> >
> >
> > UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which  
> is just
> > across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion. We will be back in our normal rooms for the
> > February meetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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I asked David to send out an email blast.

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcia
Young
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:05 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Important! Room Location Changes for Astro 101 and GM,
January 28th

Are you going to do a blast with that info?
M
On Jan 27, 2012, at 3:01 PM, David Young wrote:

>
> Or we could go the debate and heckle? Well, maybe not. See ya'll back 
> in Haag Hall. Sounds like the room we met in when the remodeled Royall 
> Hall a few years back. If so, it's actually a pretty good room for 
> meetings.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Rick Henderson
> <rhenderson1@...>wrote:
>
> > Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will
> not be able
> > to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow
> night
> > for
> > either Astro 101 or the GM.
> >
> >
> >
> > UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which
> is just
> > across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion. We will be back in our normal rooms for the 
> > February meetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46152472/#46152472


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Newt is a perfect fit for the comedic, coward and villain Dr. Zackery Smith in "Lost In Space".  He even looks like and acts like him.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:56 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] Newt and permanent base on the Moon - Neil DeGrasse Tyson's thoughts
> 
>
>  
>http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46152472/#46152472
>
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http://pjmedia.com/blog/newts-lunar-base/?singlepage=true

My only technical nit is that nitrogen is also available in the form of ammonia ices in the cold traps.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:
>
> Newt is a perfect fit for the comedic, coward and villain Dr. Zackery Smith in "Lost In Space".  He even looks like and acts like him.
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> >________________________________
> > From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
> >To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:56 PM
> >Subject: [ASKC] Newt and permanent base on the Moon - Neil DeGrasse Tyson's thoughts
> > 
> >
> >  
> >http://video.msnbc.msn.com/martin-bashir/46152472/#46152472
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> 
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>

Let's not start with political comments on this group.


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Amen.

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:35 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] politics

Let's not start with political comments on this group.


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I'm not going to be able to get the meeting tonight.

We are down to 1 running vehicle and Cindy sick with the flu, so I'm babysitting.

-Scott



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will not be able
> to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow night for
> either Astro 101 or the GM.  
> 
>  
> 
> UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which is just
> across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  We will be back in our normal rooms for the
> February meetings.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hope things change for the better Scott. Good luck.

Gary

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:15 PM, stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I'm not going to be able to get the meeting tonight.
>
> We are down to 1 running vehicle and Cindy sick with the flu, so I'm
> babysitting.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Due to a last minute scheduling oversight and conflict, we will not be
> able
> > to use either of the two usual auditoriums in Royall Hall tomorrow night
> for
> > either Astro 101 or the GM.
> >
> >
> >
> > UMKC has reserved Haag 201 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM instead, which is just
> > across the sidewalk east from Royall Hall.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion. We will be back in our normal rooms for the
> > February meetings.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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Can anyone give me a current phone number or address for Paul and Cheryl
Macek? His e-mails are bouncing.

Thanks.

Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.

Steve, please expand on that.  What is a doomsday prepper?  We old guys are so behind times, we need help.

On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:

> Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

These are people that build underground bunkers, stock pile food & water, have radiation suits etc.... They are preparing for the end and hope to be among the few that get to stick around.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Steve, please expand on that.  What is a doomsday prepper?  We old guys are so behind times, we need help.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:
> 
> > Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Isn't that what they teach Boy Scouts, "Be prepared?" 

On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:23 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:

> These are people that build underground bunkers, stock pile food & water, have radiation suits etc.... They are preparing for the end and hope to be among the few that get to stick around.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve, please expand on that.  What is a doomsday prepper?  We old guys are so behind times, we need help.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

I with you Geroge. Be prepared. Do do otherwise is irresponsible.

MSgt. Johnny Allen
USMC Retired

 



________________________________
From: george allen <geonjod@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, January 29, 2012 9:57:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Doomsday

  
Isn't that what they teach Boy Scouts, "Be prepared?" 

On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:23 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:

> These are people that build underground bunkers, stock pile food & water, have 
>radiation suits etc.... They are preparing for the end and hope to be among the 
>few that get to stick around.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve, please expand on that. What is a doomsday prepper? We old guys are so 
>>behind times, we need help.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the 
>>>stupidity begin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 



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Not to be confused with a "Doomsday Preppie" who are usually educated, well-dressed doomsday prophets from the 1980s and 1990s...Lol 

Gene Williams 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Steve, please expand on that.  What is a doomsday prepper?  We old guys are so behind times, we need help.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:
> 
> > Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>

One source said if you aren't a D. Preppie, you will become a D. Zombie.?????  

On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:40 PM, "genogeno9999" <genogeno1@...> wrote:

> 
> 
> Not to be confused with a "Doomsday Preppie" who are usually educated, well-dressed doomsday prophets from the 1980s and 1990s...Lol 
> 
> Gene Williams 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Steve, please expand on that.  What is a doomsday prepper?  We old guys are so behind times, we need help.
>> 
>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 5:27 PM, "kings621" <kings621@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just seen a promo for a new reality show called "Doomsday Preppers". Let the stupidity begin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=asteroid&oq=asteroid&aq=f&aqi=d1g1d-o1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=480l2022l0l2195l8l7l0l4l4l0l217l424l1.1.1l3l0#hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&sa=X&ei=9RIoT6HxGaTg2QXTgZnBAg&ved=0CCUQvwUoAQ&q=asteroid+eros+leo+constellation&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=53dbb272944ebad6&biw=1280&bih=709


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Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).

-John C


--- David Young wrote:
>
> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>
>
> Mike Stewart wrote:
> >
> > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> >
> > Ouch.
> >

Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>
> -John C
>
>
> --- David Young wrote:
> >
> > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> >
> >
> > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > >
> > > Ouch.
> > >
>
>  
>


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Would a 200mW laser pointer�pop a balloon?����Just asking.�� From how far 
away?��� Just asking. evil^^snicker
�Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




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From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter in 
Virginia

Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@comcast.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>
> -John C
>
>
> --- David Young wrote:
> >
> > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> >
> >
> > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > >
> > > Ouch.
> > >
>
>� 
>


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You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:

> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
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> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> >wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >
> > -John C
> >
> >
> > --- David Young wrote:
> > >
> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > >
> > > > Ouch.
> > > >
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I don't know, the last guy got a big fine and jail time.
On Feb 1, 2012 4:55 PM, "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...> wrote:

> You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
> will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
> and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...
> >wrote:
>
> > Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
> > away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
> >  Under Spacious Skies,
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> > helicopter in
> > Virginia
> >
> > Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> > >
> > > -John C
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Young wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > > >
> > > > > Ouch.
> > > > >
> > >
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I hope it is not dismissed.� As I see from the report he was trying to keep the police away from their job.� I believe that may be�criminal interference with Official Police operations.� If he has had a clean record, he might be able to plea it�down to something less, but he needs his A__ whiped so he will not do it again and make him an example�to others.����
�
I am commercial pilot and I was hit with a green laser at night about 10 years ago and it temporally blinded us.� The cockpit lit up like�it was daylight for a few seconds and it took a few moments to see in the dark again.��It wasn't permanent but it forced�us to go around�on a visual approach to LAS and make a second approach and land.� We still�saw spots in our�eyes for several hours.���I guess you think that would be funny if your family had been on the flight.�
�
Something to think about, isn't it?
�
My 2 cents on the subject.
�
dt

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From: IggyKC@gmail.com <iggykc@...>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter in Virginia
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 4:55 PM


You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:

> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?� � Just asking.���From how far
> away?� � Just asking. evil^^snicker
>� Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >
> > -John C
> >
> >
> > --- David Young wrote:
> > >
> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > >
> > > > Ouch.
> > > >
> >
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Sorry, I meant if there is a "general" government case against lasers and
banning them. Not an individual case of a nut who shines it at airplanes.

My remark about your funny American thing (1st Ammendment) dealt with that.



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@...> wrote:

> You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
> will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
> and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:
>
>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>>  Under Spacious Skies,
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>> helicopter in
>> Virginia
>>
>> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
>> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
>> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
>> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>> >
>> > -John C
>> >
>> >
>> > --- David Young wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
>> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
>> > > >
>> > > > Ouch.
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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The Bill of rights is balanced against bad behavior, and there are 
similar exceptions which apply in this case.

The closest in this case as far as the first amendment is concerned that 
comes to mind is that one can get prosecuted for yelling fire in a 
crowded place, and causing panic.  I believe that there is no right 
being violated to track down a twit who is pointing a blinding laser at 
aircraft and annoying or causing harm to the pilots.  The problem are 
the exceptions such as in our case where one might accidentally point at 
an aircraft while using it in a legitimate manner.

Hopefully we won't have to file FAA no fly exclusion zones over star 
parties in the future.

I also don't see what the stiff fines an penalties are doing to stop 
idiots from buying these and going out and doing the same as all of the 
others who are in prison for doing the same thing.  I agree that the 
only other thing that seems to be out there is to ban the sale, since 
licensing (which may or may not help) would be too expensive.  I'm not a 
fan of a ban on sales, but I can see where the problem is headed.  There 
is no overwhelming application which forces that the lasers be 
available, so I doubt that those who would impose a ban would see a problem.

Jim

On 2/1/2012 2:55 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
> You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
> will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
> and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON<randiwe269@...>wrote:
>
>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>>   Under Spacious Skies,
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Young<youngmdavid@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>> helicopter in
>> Virginia
>>
>> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956<John.Cravens@...
>>> wrote:
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
>>> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
>>> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
>>> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>>>
>>> -John C
>>>
>>>
>>> --- David Young wrote:
>>>> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Stewart wrote:
>>>>> "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
>>>>> prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
>>>>>
>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to discuss the new 
enclosure and telescope.  Since funding fell a little short, Dan will be 
ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple of weeks.  
We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.  The scope 
will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.

The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT 14-16"

Have a good evening.

Joe

Aw, heck, Jim, banning sales would just cause a bunch of inventive hillbillies to form hidden factories in the woods to cobble up hi-powered lasers and then sell them in the Chicago suburbs.  This will result in the Feds putting together a small dedicated unit of enforcers called "The Unlightables" to root out the lawbreakers and restore peace and justice.

On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:45 PM, jim s <jws@...> wrote:

>> 
>>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
>>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker

Now there's a reality TV show I'd watch!

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Aw, heck, Jim, banning sales would just cause a bunch of inventive hillbillies to form hidden factories in the woods to cobble up hi-powered lasers and then sell them in the Chicago suburbs.  This will result in the Feds putting together a small dedicated unit of enforcers called "The Unlightables" to root out the lawbreakers and restore peace and justice.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:45 PM, jim s <jws@...> wrote:
> 
> >> 
> >>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
> >>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>

Yeah, I think the laser would have to be shining through a jar of urine and/or lighting a flag on fire for it to become a 1st Amendment case.  ;^)

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, jim s <jws@...> wrote:
>
> The Bill of rights is balanced against bad behavior, and there are 
> similar exceptions which apply in this case.
> 
> The closest in this case as far as the first amendment is concerned that 
> comes to mind is that one can get prosecuted for yelling fire in a 
> crowded place, and causing panic.  I believe that there is no right 
> being violated to track down a twit who is pointing a blinding laser at 
> aircraft and annoying or causing harm to the pilots.  The problem are 
> the exceptions such as in our case where one might accidentally point at 
> an aircraft while using it in a legitimate manner.
> 
> Hopefully we won't have to file FAA no fly exclusion zones over star 
> parties in the future.
> 
> I also don't see what the stiff fines an penalties are doing to stop 
> idiots from buying these and going out and doing the same as all of the 
> others who are in prison for doing the same thing.  I agree that the 
> only other thing that seems to be out there is to ban the sale, since 
> licensing (which may or may not help) would be too expensive.  I'm not a 
> fan of a ban on sales, but I can see where the problem is headed.  There 
> is no overwhelming application which forces that the lasers be 
> available, so I doubt that those who would impose a ban would see a problem.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On 2/1/2012 2:55 PM, IggyKC@... wrote:
> > You Americans have a funny thing called "1st Ammendment" - I am sure there
> > will be a sharp lawyer that will be able to use "expression" and "freedom"
> > and "laser" in one sentence and the whole thing will be quiclky dismissed.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON<randiwe269@...>wrote:
> >
> >> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
> >> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
> >>   Under Spacious Skies,
> >> Randy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: David Young<youngmdavid@...>
> >> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> >> helicopter in
> >> Virginia
> >>
> >> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956<John.Cravens@...
> >>> wrote:
> >>> **
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> >>> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> >>> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> >>> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >>>
> >>> -John C
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- David Young wrote:
> >>>> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Stewart wrote:
> >>>>> "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> >>>>> prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ouch.
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>

A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
holes through clouds:-)

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
>
> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >
> > -John C
> >
> >
> > --- David Young wrote:
> > >
> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > >
> > > > Ouch.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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How about putting a green spot on the moon?

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter 
in Virginia


>A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
> ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
> Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
> useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
> holes through clouds:-)
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON 
> <randiwe269@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>>  Under Spacious Skies,
>> Randy
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>> helicopter in
>> Virginia
>>
>>
>> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > **
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
>> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
>> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
>> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>> >
>> > -John C
>> >
>> >
>> > --- David Young wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
>> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
>> > > >
>> > > > Ouch.
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Not  enough power to light off the retro reflectors, so I doubt that 
they would make much of a spot.

Here is a clip from Mythbusters and Apache Point.  2GW green laser. (a 
few ns of course).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVxSFnjYCA

Apache Point lunar laser ranging operation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Point_Observatory_Lunar_Laser-ranging_Operation


On 2/1/2012 7:09 PM, Jim Ketchum wrote:

> How about putting a green spot on the moon?
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter
> in Virginia
>
>
>> A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
>> ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
>> Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
>> useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
>> holes through clouds:-)
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON
>> <randiwe269@...>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.   From how far
>>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>>>   Under Spacious Skies,
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: David Young<youngmdavid@...>
>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>>> helicopter in
>>> Virginia
>>>
>>>
>>> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956<John.Cravens@...
>>>> wrote:
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
>>>> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
>>>> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
>>>> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>>>>
>>>> -John C
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- David Young wrote:
>>>>> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Stewart wrote:
>>>>>> "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
>>>>>> prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Any one know were they came from?� Who purchased them?

Thanks,

Joe


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Any one know were they came from?  Who purchased them?

Thanks,

Joe

I have a lead on spectrometers if anyone is interested.  I don't know if 
they are sensitive enough for astronomical work yet, but have ordered 
two myself.

They are Ocean Optics HR2000  USB models.  I will let you know when I 
get mine if the software I have runs them.  If so, I can help with a 
copy.  They can also be accessed with a fairly simple serial over USB 
command set with a program to do extended operations.  This may be 
necessary to increase integration time for the intensity of astronomical 
use.

Anyway, I'll let you know how mine work if you are interested.  Contact 
me via the email on this posting.

jim

Jim,

We have a guest speaker scheduled for May on the topic of spectroscopy.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jim s
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:14 PM
To: ASKC Yahoo
Subject: [ASKC] Spectrometers

I have a lead on spectrometers if anyone is interested.  I don't know if
they are sensitive enough for astronomical work yet, but have ordered two
myself.

They are Ocean Optics HR2000  USB models.  I will let you know when I get
mine if the software I have runs them.  If so, I can help with a copy.  They
can also be accessed with a fairly simple serial over USB command set with a
program to do extended operations.  This may be necessary to increase
integration time for the intensity of astronomical use.

Anyway, I'll let you know how mine work if you are interested.  Contact me
via the email on this posting.

jim


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--- David Young wrote:
>
> A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm
> pretty sure a 200mw will pop balloons and punch
> holes in retinas even after reflecting off of
> something. Absolutely way too much power outside
> a research lab or the military. No useful purpose
> for amateur astronomy or pointing unless you hope
> to burn holes through clouds. :-)

David,

A bit too bright for use at the DSS or other dark-sky
location, perhaps, but not from where I live. Even a
30mW or 50mW is invisible unless you're looking right
along the axis of the beam. My 100mW can be seen by
someone who's standing maybe 20-25 feet away, from my
very light-polluted site. With a 200mW, that distance
might increase considerably.

But be assured, no beam of mine will go near any car,
aircraft, or reflective surface, much less at anyone's
retina. I am well aware of the dangers involved. Stars
and other astronomical targets only when it's clear. I
have pointed lasers up into a rainy, cloudy night sky,
just to gauge the density of the rainfall. Good fun. I
can sometimes even project a spot onto clouds, if they
are low enough. I have no indoor lab, but I do enjoy a
bit of amateur research in nature's great wide open...

-John C


------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --- Randy Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?  
> > Just asking. From how far away? Just asking.
> > evil^^snicker
> > Under Spacious Skies,
> > Randy
> >

Randy,

Yes, a well-made one certainly will. Even my 100mW one
will, if it's a black or other dark-colored balloon.
As for distance, I don't know, I haven't tried it. I
have seen a YouTube clip where several black balloons
were lined up in a row, each farther and farther from
the laser source. Each took a little longer to pop than
the previous one. My 100mW will sting your palm from a
couple of feet away, if you hold it there a while.

-John C

-----------------------------------------------------

> >  --- David Young wrote:
> > Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)

 --- John Cravens wrote:
 No. A little brazing or soldering, maybe. ;-)

------------------------------------------------------

> > --- David Young wrote:
> > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> >
> > --- John Cravens wrote:
> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >
> > -John C

May 20, 2012 - "Ring of Fire" Solar Eclipse -

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UodZLWi_oHo


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Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at the Warko?

They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased 
after 2005 for only $25!

I didn't get them.

Thanks,

Joe

I have a very vague suspicion, no time frame ---- Possibly memorial 
money?????
Old board meeting minutes might help on that.

Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:54 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Warko Binoculars Second Request


> Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at the 
> Warko?
>
> They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased
> after 2005 for only $25!
>
> I didn't get them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe

Stan died in 1997 but we didn't spend the money for several years after
that. Someone also bought some large binoculars for Powell a few years
back. I bought a PST, some filters and an eyepiece with some leftover "Mars
money" during one of my OD terms but I did not purchase any binculars.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Kathy Machin <kmachin@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have a very vague suspicion, no time frame ---- Possibly memorial
> money?????
> Old board meeting minutes might help on that.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
> To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 7:54 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Warko Binoculars Second Request
>
> > Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at the
> > Warko?
> >
> > They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased
> > after 2005 for only $25!
> >
> > I didn't get them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
>
>  
>


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This is interesting.  They finally may have the full VLT operating.  
130m aperature anyone?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16869022

Iggy:

Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.

We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money 
for the 14" before we have to order.  We are wanting to have first light 
in March.
We shall see what happens in the coming week.

So far we have about $250 pledged.

Thanks,

Joe



IggyKC@... wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>
> IGGY
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
>
>     Iggy:
>
>     I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>     then I first thought.....$2,000.  Going from 12" to 14" would
>     yield about 25% more light grasp.
>
>     Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>     astronomy.  Classes are on the books and schedules.
>
>     Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>     Brodwin.  Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>      We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>     an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>     the classroom's on the fourth floor.  Maybe we could even get it
>     to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>
>     Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Joe
>
>     IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
>
>         Joe,
>
>         How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>
>         I may help with some.
>
>
>
>         On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>         <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>
>         <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>         wrote:
>
>            Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>         discuss the new
>            enclosure and telescope.  Since funding fell a little
>         short, Dan
>            will be
>            ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>         of weeks.
>            We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>          The scope
>            will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>
>            The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>         14-16"
>
>            Have a good evening.
>
>            Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>            ------------------------------------
>
>
>
>            Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>

I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
enough for the upgrade then the offers are  withdrawn.
On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Iggy:
>
> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>
> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
> in March.
> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>
> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> IggyKC@... wrote:
> > Joseph,
> >
> > I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
> > can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
> > atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
> > coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
> > we can make it a fund raiser for you.
> >
> > IGGY
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> > <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
> >
> > Iggy:
> >
> > I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
> > then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
> > yield about 25% more light grasp.
> >
> > Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
> > astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
> >
> > Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
> > Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
> > We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
> > an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
> > the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
> > to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
> >
> > Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
> >
> > I may help with some.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
> > <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@yahoo.com>
> > <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
> > discuss the new
> > enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
> > short, Dan
> > will be
> > ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
> > of weeks.
> > We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
> > The scope
> > will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
> >
> > The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
> > 14-16"
> >
> > Have a good evening.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
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> >
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> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  
>


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David, Joe, et.al.,

I need to know, would this go to a 501(C)(3) organization, such as 
GKCCF, or does the university qualify?

Jason.


On 04-Feb-12 15:19, David Young wrote:
> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
> enough for the upgrade then the offers are  withdrawn.
> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@...>  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Iggy:
>>
>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>
>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>> in March.
>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>
>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>
>>> IGGY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Iggy:
>>>
>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>
>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>
>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>
>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> IggyKC@...<mailto:IggyKC@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>
>>> I may help with some.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>> <jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>
>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>> discuss the new
>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>> short, Dan
>>> will be
>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>> of weeks.
>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>> The scope
>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>
>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>> 14-16"
>>>
>>> Have a good evening.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>>> ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Sorry for the OFF-TOPIC, but...... 



After doing a Google search, I found dozens of sites with freeware to convert some of my DVD's movies to files. But what works and what doesn't? What is useful software, and what has viruses and other malware problems with it? 



I'd like to most likely convert my DVD's  to *.avi format. That seems to be the most compressed file type while still getting a decent resolution. 



Is there any software that any of you have used and liked (f reeware or not)? 


Thanks! 

-Scott

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Are you wanting to convert this for iPod/iPhone/iPad use?

Also, I would download a trial version of adobe premier. This will allow you to edit the files and convert them. Have you tried windows movie maker?


-Brian 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Feb 4, 2012, at 6:09 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote:

> 
> 
> Sorry for the OFF-TOPIC, but...... 
> 
> After doing a Google search, I found dozens of sites with freeware to convert some of my DVD's movies to files. But what works and what doesn't? What is useful software, and what has viruses and other malware problems with it? 
> 
> I'd like to most likely convert my DVD's  to *.avi format. That seems to be the most compressed file type while still getting a decent resolution. 
> 
> Is there any software that any of you have used and liked (f reeware or not)? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> -Scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No, they would be for playing on a PC. I have no Apple hardware at all, and don't plan to get any. 



I didn't think of Movie Maker, but I didn't think that would capture from the DVD. I'll have to play around with it and see what its capabilities are. 



-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "Brian Davidson" <brian@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 6:12:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] OFF TOPIC: Converting DVD movies to computer files 

  




Are you wanting to convert this for iPod/iPhone/iPad use? 

Also, I would download a trial version of adobe premier. This will allow you to edit the files and convert them. Have you tried windows movie maker? 

-Brian 

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 

On Feb 4, 2012, at 6:09 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote: 

> 
> 
> Sorry for the OFF-TOPIC, but...... 
> 
> After doing a Google search, I found dozens of sites with freeware to convert some of my DVD's movies to files. But what works and what doesn't? What is useful software, and what has viruses and other malware problems with it? 
> 
> I'd like to most likely convert my DVD's to *.avi format. That seems to be the most compressed file type while still getting a decent resolution. 
> 
> Is there any software that any of you have used and liked (f reeware or not)? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 

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We can donate to the ASKC directly, who can then pass it along.

 

Put me down for $250 - 

 

Jackie Beucher

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:13 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: David Young
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update

 

  

David, Joe, et.al.,

I need to know, would this go to a 501(C)(3) organization, such as 
GKCCF, or does the university qualify?

Jason.

On 04-Feb-12 15:19, David Young wrote:
> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
> enough for the upgrade then the offers are withdrawn.
> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@...
<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Iggy:
>>
>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>
>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>> in March.
>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>
>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC%40gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Joseph,
>>>
>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>
>>> IGGY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> 
>>> <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> Iggy:
>>>
>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>
>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>
>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>
>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC%40gmail.com> <mailto:IggyKC@...
<mailto:IggyKC%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>
>>> I may help with some.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>> <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> >
>>> <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> >>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>> discuss the new
>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>> short, Dan
>>> will be
>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>> of weeks.
>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>> The scope
>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>
>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>> 14-16"
>>>
>>> Have a good evening.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:ASKC-digest%40yahoogroups.com> 
>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:ASKC-digest%40yahoogroups.com> >>
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<mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured%40yahoogroups.com> >>
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<mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com> 
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David,
I sent an email at 4:39 pm  to you about matching your $250 but it didn't 
appear on the site as far as I can see.  Did anyone see it.
Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
Dick Trentman


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update


> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
> enough for the upgrade then the offers are  withdrawn.
> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Iggy:
>>
>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>
>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>> in March.
>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>
>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>> > Joseph,
>> >
>> > I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>> > can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>> > atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>> > coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>> > we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>> >
>> > IGGY
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
>> > <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Iggy:
>> >
>> > I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>> > then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>> > yield about 25% more light grasp.
>> >
>> > Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>> > astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>> >
>> > Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>> > Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>> > We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>> > an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>> > the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>> > to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>> >
>> > Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Joe,
>> >
>> > How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>> >
>> > I may help with some.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>> > <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>
>> > <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>> > discuss the new
>> > enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>> > short, Dan
>> > will be
>> > ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>> > of weeks.
>> > We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>> > The scope
>> > will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>> >
>> > The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>> > 14-16"
>> >
>> > Have a good evening.
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>> > ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>> >
>> >
>> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I got it myself. Don't know if anyone else did. I'll be sure to send a copy
to Joe and Jason.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:49 PM, D Trentman <dtrent@...> wrote:

> David,
> I sent an email at 4:39 pm  to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
> appear on the site as far as I can see.  Did anyone see it.
> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
> Dick Trentman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>
>
> > I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I
> will
> > also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
> > enough for the upgrade then the offers are  withdrawn.
> > On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
>  >>
> >>
> >> Iggy:
> >>
> >> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
> >>
> >> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
> >> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
> >> in March.
> >> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
> >>
> >> So far we have about $250 pledged.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> IggyKC@... wrote:
> >> > Joseph,
> >> >
> >> > I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
> >> > can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
> >> > atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
> >> > coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
> >> > we can make it a fund raiser for you.
> >> >
> >> > IGGY
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> >> > <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Iggy:
> >> >
> >> > I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
> >> > then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
> >> > yield about 25% more light grasp.
> >> >
> >> > Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
> >> > astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
> >> >
> >> > Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
> >> > Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
> >> > We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
> >> > an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
> >> > the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
> >> > to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
> >> >
> >> > Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> > IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Joe,
> >> >
> >> > How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
> >> >
> >> > I may help with some.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
> >> > <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>
> >> > <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
> >> > discuss the new
> >> > enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
> >> > short, Dan
> >> > will be
> >> > ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
> >> > of weeks.
> >> > We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
> >> > The scope
> >> > will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
> >> >
> >> > The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
> >> > 14-16"
> >> >
> >> > Have a good evening.
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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thanks ....dt


--- On Sat, 2/4/12, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 4, 2012, 8:10 PM

I got it myself. Don't know if anyone else did. I'll be sure to send a copy
to Joe and Jason.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:49 PM, D Trentman <dtrent@...t> wrote:

> David,
> I sent an email at 4:39 pm� to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
> appear on the site as far as I can see.� Did anyone see it.
> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
> Dick Trentman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>
>
> > I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I
> will
> > also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
> > enough for the upgrade then the offers are� withdrawn.
> > On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> wrote:
> >
> >> **
>� >>
> >>
> >> Iggy:
> >>
> >> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
> >>
> >> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
> >> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
> >> in March.
> >> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
> >>
> >> So far we have about $250 pledged.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> IggyKC@... wrote:
> >> > Joseph,
> >> >
> >> > I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
> >> > can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
> >> > atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
> >> > coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
> >> > we can make it a fund raiser for you.
> >> >
> >> > IGGY
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> >> > <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Iggy:
> >> >
> >> > I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
> >> > then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
> >> > yield about 25% more light grasp.
> >> >
> >> > Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
> >> > astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
> >> >
> >> > Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
> >> > Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
> >> > We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
> >> > an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
> >> > the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
> >> > to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
> >> >
> >> > Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> > IggyKC@... <mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Joe,
> >> >
> >> > How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
> >> >
> >> > I may help with some.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
> >> > <jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>
> >> > <mailto:jos.wright@... <mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
> >> > discuss the new
> >> > enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
> >> > short, Dan
> >> > will be
> >> > ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
> >> > of weeks.
> >> > We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
> >> > The scope
> >> > will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
> >> >
> >> > The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
> >> > 14-16"
> >> >
> >> > Have a good evening.
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >> > <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
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They've updated their site. 
The poster, online registration, and the invited speaker have been made available. 
Leif and I have registered, including for the banquet. 
As usual the fee is due at arrival only ($10 total for both days) and you pay for the banquet at the dinner. They haven't released the banquet details yet.

http://www.physics.ku.edu/marac/marac.shtml

Check out the poster/announcement as it contains additional details not listed on the main page.

http://www.physics.ku.edu/marac/announce12.pdf

Thanks,
Cindy

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...>
> Date: January 11, 2012 2:42:18 PM CST
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] MARAC 2012
> Reply-To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Thank you for the update Cindy.
> 
> Gary Pittman
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Cindy Chesley <cindylchesley@...>wrote:
> 
>> **
>> 
>> 
>> In case this hasn't been forwarded out to our group yet....
>> 
>> For those interested in the Mid America Regional Astrophysics Conference
>> (MARAC) -
>> They have set the dates for 2012 and have moved it to a different venue.
>> 
>> April 13/14, KU campus in Lawrence, KS.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cindy
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: Barbara J Anthony-Twarog <bjat@...>
>>>> Date: January 10, 2012 2:06:35 PM CST
>>>> To: <MARAC@...>
>>>> Subject: change / save the date for MARAC 2012
>>>> Reply-To: MARAC@...
>>>> 
>>>> After some local recon and discussion, we have reserved meeting space on
>>>> the KU Lawrence campus for MARAC 2012 on the dates Friday/Saturday April
>>>> 13 and 14, 2012. For those of you who haven't visited our lovely
>>>> campus, Lawrence is about 40 miles west of Kansas City. We will
>>>> communicate soon about logistics, but this change will make it easier to
>>>> retain the opportunity to present oral talks for those who still prefer
>>>> to, will give us a bit more time to work with and less stringent time
>>>> constraints than Linda Hall Library. The change of date alleviates one
>>>> major conflict for some of our local astronomers; we devoutly hope we
>>>> haven't created too many new conflicts.
>>>> 
>>>> We'll be working on a whole new set of logistics and will communicate
>>>> further in coming weeks.
>>>> 
>>>> As always, unless you really WANT to communicate with the entire midwest
>>>> astronomical community, don't hit reply but instead address an email to
>>>> bjat at ku.edu.
>>>> 
>>>> bjat for the other KU astronomers (who are all at the AAS)
>>>> 
>> 
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I use Slysoft's AnyDVD-HD (paid version) to get the movie off the DVD, 
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

I use Handbrake (freeware) to create .mp4 files, http://handbrake.fr/  
There is a way to install a .dll for Handbrake that then you can bypass 
using AnyDVD. Handbrake can create many types of output files, .avi 
included.

I use VLC's VideoLAN (freeware) to view movies: 
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/.

Very happy with these applications.

Jason.

On 04-Feb-12 18:28, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> No, they would be for playing on a PC. I have no Apple hardware at all, and don't plan to get any.
>
>
>
> I didn't think of Movie Maker, but I didn't think that would capture from the DVD. I'll have to play around with it and see what its capabilities are.
>
>
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Brian Davidson"<brian@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 6:12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] OFF TOPIC: Converting DVD movies to computer files
>
>   
>
>
>
>
> Are you wanting to convert this for iPod/iPhone/iPad use?
>
> Also, I would download a trial version of adobe premier. This will allow you to edit the files and convert them. Have you tried windows movie maker?
>
> -Brian
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 6:09 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry for the OFF-TOPIC, but......
>>
>> After doing a Google search, I found dozens of sites with freeware to convert some of my DVD's movies to files. But what works and what doesn't? What is useful software, and what has viruses and other malware problems with it?
>>
>> I'd like to most likely convert my DVD's to *.avi format. That seems to be the most compressed file type while still getting a decent resolution.
>>
>> Is there any software that any of you have used and liked (f reeware or not)?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
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This is great response, folks.

Twyla and I will kick in $500, with a company match of $500, so it looks 
like Warko is getting a 14" instead of the 12".

Here's a breakdown:

My reckoning is that the following pledges have been made:

Iggy, :            50
Others:           200 (per Joe, he's got these other pledges).
David Young:      500
Jackie Beucher:   250
Dick Trentman:    250
Jason Forst:      500
Company match:    500
Total:          2,250

This is simply outstanding.

The people who pledged will be contacted separately with details.

Jason Forst
Treasurer, ASKC.

On 04-Feb-12 19:49, D Trentman wrote:
> David,
> I sent an email at 4:39 pm  to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
> appear on the site as far as I can see.  Did anyone see it.
> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
> Dick Trentman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>
>
>> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
>> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
>> enough for the upgrade then the offers are  withdrawn.
>> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Iggy:
>>>
>>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>>
>>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>>> in March.
>>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>>
>>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>>>> Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>>
>>>> IGGY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Iggy:
>>>>
>>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>>
>>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>>
>>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>>
>>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> IggyKC@...<mailto:IggyKC@...>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>>
>>>> I may help with some.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>>> <jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>
>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>>> discuss the new
>>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>>> short, Dan
>>>> will be
>>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>>> of weeks.
>>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>>> The scope
>>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>>
>>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>>> 14-16"
>>>>
>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>> ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Free to a good home:

I have two 100-sheet packs of HP Glossy Plotter paper, #17900G. Used in 
the old sheet-fed 8.5x11 pen plotters.

This paper does NOT work with inkjet inks.

I also have a 50-sheet pack HP Transparency Plotter film, # 17702T, also 
for the 8.5x11 pen plotters, to make overhead projection slides.

These packs are new, sealed, and ready for you.

I wish I still had that plotter..... :(

Jason.

Count me in for $250.
 
Joel Falk

--- On Sun, 2/5/12, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:


From: Jason <bmwjason@...>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 10:09 AM



  



This is great response, folks.

Twyla and I will kick in $500, with a company match of $500, so it looks 
like Warko is getting a 14" instead of the 12".

Here's a breakdown:

My reckoning is that the following pledges have been made:

Iggy, : 50
Others: 200 (per Joe, he's got these other pledges).
David Young: 500
Jackie Beucher: 250
Dick Trentman: 250
Jason Forst: 500
Company match: 500
Total: 2,250

This is simply outstanding.

The people who pledged will be contacted separately with details.

Jason Forst
Treasurer, ASKC.

On 04-Feb-12 19:49, D Trentman wrote:
> David,
> I sent an email at 4:39 pm to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
> appear on the site as far as I can see. Did anyone see it.
> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
> Dick Trentman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>
>
>> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
>> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
>> enough for the upgrade then the offers are withdrawn.
>> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Iggy:
>>>
>>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>>
>>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>>> in March.
>>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>>
>>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>>>> Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>>
>>>> IGGY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Iggy:
>>>>
>>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>>
>>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>>
>>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>>
>>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> IggyKC@...<mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>>
>>>> I may help with some.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>>> <jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>
>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>>> discuss the new
>>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>>> short, Dan
>>>> will be
>>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>>> of weeks.
>>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>>> The scope
>>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>>
>>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>>> 14-16"
>>>>
>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>> ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Wow.

When there's a need, all it takes is a spark to ignite. Many thanks to 
Iggy for the spark.

Thank you all.  We've reached and surpassed the targeted $2,000 needed 
to make the new Warko telescope 14" instead of 12". And we weren't even 
formally trying! Just some of use using this new-fangled Internet e-mail 
thing, and communicating.

I've received a personal message from Dr. MacIntosh from UMKC. They are 
"thrilled", and these pledged funds will more than provide for the 
upgrade to 14". Several donors had stipulations that the funds only be 
used for the 12-14 upgrade, so those will be segregated, and I suspect 
any left-over can be used for eyepieces or other accessories (e.g. dew 
heater, Crayford focuser, motorized focuser, etc.)


I'd suggest further thoughts of donations be focused on our ASKC 
Scholarship fund, which is not yet to a self-sustaining level.

If those of you who pledged would send me an private message, we'll work 
out details.

Again,

Thanks.

Jason Forst



On 05-Feb-12 12:52, joel falk wrote:
> Count me in for $250.
>   
> Joel Falk
>
> --- On Sun, 2/5/12, Jason<bmwjason@...>  wrote:
>
>
> From: Jason<bmwjason@...>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 10:09 AM
>
>
>
>   
>
>
>
> This is great response, folks.
>
> Twyla and I will kick in $500, with a company match of $500, so it looks
> like Warko is getting a 14" instead of the 12".
>
> Here's a breakdown:
>
> My reckoning is that the following pledges have been made:
>
> Iggy, : 50
> Others: 200 (per Joe, he's got these other pledges).
> David Young: 500
> Jackie Beucher: 250
> Dick Trentman: 250
> Jason Forst: 500
> Company match: 500
> Total: 2,250
>
> This is simply outstanding.
>
> The people who pledged will be contacted separately with details.
>
> Jason Forst
> Treasurer, ASKC.
>
> On 04-Feb-12 19:49, D Trentman wrote:
>> David,
>> I sent an email at 4:39 pm to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
>> appear on the site as far as I can see. Did anyone see it.
>> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
>> Dick Trentman
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
>> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>>
>>
>>> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
>>> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
>>> enough for the upgrade then the offers are withdrawn.
>>> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@...>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Iggy:
>>>>
>>>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>>>
>>>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>>>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>>>> in March.
>>>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>>>
>>>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> IGGY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
>>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Iggy:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> IggyKC@...<mailto:IggyKC@...>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I may help with some.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>>>> <jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>
>>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>>>> discuss the new
>>>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>>>> short, Dan
>>>>> will be
>>>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>>>> of weeks.
>>>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>>>> The scope
>>>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>>>> 14-16"
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>> ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Outstanding generosity folks!  Your legasey will introduce hundreds to our amazing universe.
Mike Sterling



-----Original Message-----
From: Jason <bmwjason@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2012 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update


 

Wow.

When there's a need, all it takes is a spark to ignite. Many thanks to 
Iggy for the spark.

Thank you all. We've reached and surpassed the targeted $2,000 needed 
to make the new Warko telescope 14" instead of 12". And we weren't even 
formally trying! Just some of use using this new-fangled Internet e-mail 
thing, and communicating.

I've received a personal message from Dr. MacIntosh from UMKC. They are 
"thrilled", and these pledged funds will more than provide for the 
upgrade to 14". Several donors had stipulations that the funds only be 
used for the 12-14 upgrade, so those will be segregated, and I suspect 
any left-over can be used for eyepieces or other accessories (e.g. dew 
heater, Crayford focuser, motorized focuser, etc.)

I'd suggest further thoughts of donations be focused on our ASKC 
Scholarship fund, which is not yet to a self-sustaining level.

If those of you who pledged would send me an private message, we'll work 
out details.

Again,

Thanks.

Jason Forst

On 05-Feb-12 12:52, joel falk wrote:
> Count me in for $250.
> 
> Joel Falk
>
> --- On Sun, 2/5/12, Jason<bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jason<bmwjason@...>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 5, 2012, 10:09 AM
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> This is great response, folks.
>
> Twyla and I will kick in $500, with a company match of $500, so it looks
> like Warko is getting a 14" instead of the 12".
>
> Here's a breakdown:
>
> My reckoning is that the following pledges have been made:
>
> Iggy, : 50
> Others: 200 (per Joe, he's got these other pledges).
> David Young: 500
> Jackie Beucher: 250
> Dick Trentman: 250
> Jason Forst: 500
> Company match: 500
> Total: 2,250
>
> This is simply outstanding.
>
> The people who pledged will be contacted separately with details.
>
> Jason Forst
> Treasurer, ASKC.
>
> On 04-Feb-12 19:49, D Trentman wrote:
>> David,
>> I sent an email at 4:39 pm to you about matching your $250 but it didn't
>> appear on the site as far as I can see. Did anyone see it.
>> Maybe it went into limbo as I sent it from my android phone.
>> Dick Trentman
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
>> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 3:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Warko Update
>>
>>
>>> I'm good for another $250.00 but only towards the upgrade to a 14". I will
>>> also match up to $500.00 if some one else donates money. If you don't get
>>> enough for the upgrade then the offers are withdrawn.
>>> On Feb 4, 2012 11:25 AM, "Joseph Wright"<jos.wright@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Iggy:
>>>>
>>>> Iggy, thank you for your support and donation.
>>>>
>>>> We only have two weeks from this past Tuesday to raise additional money
>>>> for the 14" before we have to order. We are wanting to have first light
>>>> in March.
>>>> We shall see what happens in the coming week.
>>>>
>>>> So far we have about $250 pledged.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> IggyKC@... wrote:
>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking $50-100. If you guys can have a fund raiser for this I
>>>>> can rally some folks in our freethinking, sceince and
>>>>> atheistic/agnostic groups and see if we can add some $$$ to your
>>>>> coffers. We plan on having an outing to Powell again this spring and
>>>>> we can make it a fund raiser for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> IGGY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
>>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Iggy:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just on the phone confirming with Dan and we are shorter
>>>>> then I first thought.....$2,000. Going from 12" to 14" would
>>>>> yield about 25% more light grasp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, things are falling into place for the degree emphasis in
>>>>> astronomy. Classes are on the books and schedules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rita and I actually met not only with Dan yesterday, but Dr. Mark
>>>>> Brodwin. Mark is the new astronomer added to the staff last year.
>>>>> We are discussing with the school about the possibility of having
>>>>> an internet access on the roof as well as a video feed to one of
>>>>> the classroom's on the fourth floor. Maybe we could even get it
>>>>> to the lecture hall for monthly meetings and special events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any aid will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> IggyKC@...<mailto:IggyKC@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> How much $$ do you need for the 14"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I may help with some.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Joseph Wright
>>>>> <jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@yahoo.com>
>>>>> <mailto:jos.wright@...<mailto:jos.wright@...>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rita and I met with Dr. Dan McIntosh today at UMKC to
>>>>> discuss the new
>>>>> enclosure and telescope. Since funding fell a little
>>>>> short, Dan
>>>>> will be
>>>>> ordering a Meade 12" instead of the desired 14" in a couple
>>>>> of weeks.
>>>>> We are planning "First Light" in March with the new setup.
>>>>> The scope
>>>>> will be used for imaging, spectroscopy and public viewing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The enclosure was designed and built to accommodate a SCT
>>>>> 14-16"
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a good evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-digest@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>> ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> <mailto:ASKC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
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Some of use lasers to aline our optics. Isn't there some danger involved when 
doing this?
�Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC@...m
Sent: Wed, February 1, 2012 8:31:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter in 
Virginia

A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
holes through clouds:-)

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?� � Just asking.� From how far
> away?� � Just asking. evil^^snicker
>� Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
>
> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> >
> > -John C
> >
> >
> > --- David Young wrote:
> > >
> > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > >
> > > > Ouch.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
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>
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>


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those red collimation lasers are usually <5mw and are nearly harmless.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:08 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Some of use lasers to aline our optics. Isn't there some danger involved
> when
> doing this?
>
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 1, 2012 8:31:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
> A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
> ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
> Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
> useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
> holes through clouds:-)
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.  From how far
> > away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
> >  Under Spacious Skies,
> > Randy
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> > helicopter in
> > Virginia
> >
> >
> > Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > **
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> > >
> > > -John C
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Young wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > > >
> > > > > Ouch.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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Good to know.
�Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




________________________________
From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 6, 2012 8:44:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter in 
Virginia

those red collimation lasers are usually <5mw and are nearly harmless.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:08 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Some of use lasers to aline our optics. Isn't there some danger involved
> when
> doing this?
>
>� Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 1, 2012 8:31:13 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> helicopter in
> Virginia
>
> A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
> ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
> Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
> useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
> holes through clouds:-)
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?� � Just asking.� From how far
> > away?� � Just asking. evil^^snicker
> >� Under Spacious Skies,
> > Randy
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
> > helicopter in
> > Virginia
> >
> >
> > Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
> > >wrote:
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> > > **
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> > >
> > >
> > > Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
> > > may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
> > > a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
> > > become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
> > >
> > > -John C
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Young wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Stewart wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
> > > > > prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
> > > > >
> > > > > Ouch.
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:25 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Good to know.
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@gmail.com>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 6, 2012 8:44:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight helicopter in 
> Virginia
> 
> those red collimation lasers are usually <5mw and are nearly harmless.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:08 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...>wrote:
> 
>> **
>> 
>> 
>> Some of use lasers to aline our optics. Isn't there some danger involved
>> when
>> doing this?
>> 
>>   Under Spacious Skies,
>> Randy
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wed, February 1, 2012 8:31:13 PM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>> helicopter in
>> Virginia
>> 
>> A 35mw will burn holes in black plastic so I'm pretty sure a 200mw will pop
>> ballons and punch holes in retinas even after reflecting off of something.
>> Absolutely way too much power outside a research lab or the military. No
>> useful purpose for amateure astronomy or pointing unless you hope to burn
>> holes through clouds:-)
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RANDY THOMPSON <randiwe269@...
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> **
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Would a 200mW laser pointer pop a balloon?    Just asking.  From how far
>>> away?    Just asking. evil^^snicker
>>>   Under Spacious Skies,
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Tue, January 31, 2012 10:49:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Guilty plea in laser pointed at in-flight
>>> helicopter in
>>> Virginia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just curious, are you planning on doing some light welding:-)
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> **
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Very true, and I agree. Trouble is, these dumb-asses
>>>> may cause all laser pointers to be outlawed. I bought
>>>> a 100mW recently; think I'll get a 200mW before they
>>>> become unavailable, and while they're cheap (>$47).
>>>> 
>>>> -John C
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- David Young wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good. Keep more dumb asses away from the rest of us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike Stewart wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Willingham faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in
>>>>>> prison when he is sentenced in May, said the office."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Hi all,
Later this year Astro 101 is probably going to have a session on observing 
the moon. I started collecting resources, useful or not.
I figured we would have a one page lunar map showing the basic Maria and a 
few craters. Basic intro lunar stuff so a person with a small scope or 
binoculars can learn a few starter features. No landing sites as that would 
add too much detail for the purpose. I wanted a clear, simple, copyright 
free map.

Pages of Google links later, all I could find were awsomely detailed maps, 
wonderful on-line interactive stuff, too copyrighted, too simple, too 
smudgy, too cluttered, just not what _I_ was wanting for a simple handout.

I searched Cloudy Night forum, nothing I hadn't found before. I asked a 
couple of lunar observers, same things I had found plus, from one person, 
the comment that I should draw my own. Yeah right! I do not draw worth a 
**** and any handout based on my drawing would be utterly worthless except 
as a bad example. A very, very bad example.

So, I finally got a whole disk image using freeware Virtual Moon Atlas (VMA) 
and stuck some labels on it. (As VMA is freeware, I figure there is no 
problem - especially if credit is given.) Not too bad, detail sharp enough, 
but still a bit too cluttered. OK, maybe do pull-out labels, maybe not  .... 
I discussed the problem with our own ASKC lunar expert Rob Robinson. Yeah, 
it is a bit too cluttered.   Revise thinking.

I settled on doing a lunar diagram in vector format, with labels, to be used 
on its own or with a lunar picture. The vector format allows resizing 
without loss of detail as it is not a bitmap type file, just lines and 
shading. It is also small in file size.

I am posting the result in the Yahoo group file area as "Lunar Map Handout 
v1" in pdf format. It has a moon disk credited to VMA plus the diagram with 
labels.

I also posted the lunar diagram as a wmf file for import into anything that 
can use it - which is most programs, I think.

Anyway, feel free to use this for whatever anyone wants. It is not the 
greatest in the world, but I think it will suit for a simple starter map.

Thanks,

Kathy 

Theophilus and Gassendi are unlabeled.  ;^)

Seriously, thanks!

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Later this year Astro 101 is probably going to have a session on observing 
> the moon. I started collecting resources, useful or not.
> I figured we would have a one page lunar map showing the basic Maria and a 
> few craters. Basic intro lunar stuff so a person with a small scope or 
> binoculars can learn a few starter features. No landing sites as that would 
> add too much detail for the purpose. I wanted a clear, simple, copyright 
> free map.
> 
> Pages of Google links later, all I could find were awsomely detailed maps, 
> wonderful on-line interactive stuff, too copyrighted, too simple, too 
> smudgy, too cluttered, just not what _I_ was wanting for a simple handout.
> 
> I searched Cloudy Night forum, nothing I hadn't found before. I asked a 
> couple of lunar observers, same things I had found plus, from one person, 
> the comment that I should draw my own. Yeah right! I do not draw worth a 
> **** and any handout based on my drawing would be utterly worthless except 
> as a bad example. A very, very bad example.
> 
> So, I finally got a whole disk image using freeware Virtual Moon Atlas (VMA) 
> and stuck some labels on it. (As VMA is freeware, I figure there is no 
> problem - especially if credit is given.) Not too bad, detail sharp enough, 
> but still a bit too cluttered. OK, maybe do pull-out labels, maybe not  .... 
> I discussed the problem with our own ASKC lunar expert Rob Robinson. Yeah, 
> it is a bit too cluttered.   Revise thinking.
> 
> I settled on doing a lunar diagram in vector format, with labels, to be used 
> on its own or with a lunar picture. The vector format allows resizing 
> without loss of detail as it is not a bitmap type file, just lines and 
> shading. It is also small in file size.
> 
> I am posting the result in the Yahoo group file area as "Lunar Map Handout 
> v1" in pdf format. It has a moon disk credited to VMA plus the diagram with 
> labels.
> 
> I also posted the lunar diagram as a wmf file for import into anything that 
> can use it - which is most programs, I think.
> 
> Anyway, feel free to use this for whatever anyone wants. It is not the 
> greatest in the world, but I think it will suit for a simple starter map.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kathy
>

Thanks, Jay.
I put several unlabeled craters on without ID to avoid clutter.
Hard choices, really, in how far to go with this.
I finally just quit.
If you have a program that can edit wmf files, add or remove whatever you 
need - font used is Arial.
Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:18 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Lunar map handout v1


> Theophilus and Gassendi are unlabeled.  ;^)
>
> Seriously, thanks!
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Later this year Astro 101 is probably going to have a session on 
>> observing
>> the moon. I started collecting resources, useful or not.
>> I figured we would have a one page lunar map showing the basic Maria and 
>> a
>> few craters. Basic intro lunar stuff so a person with a small scope or
>> binoculars can learn a few starter features. No landing sites as that 
>> would
>> add too much detail for the purpose. I wanted a clear, simple, copyright
>> free map.
>>
>> Pages of Google links later, all I could find were awsomely detailed 
>> maps,
>> wonderful on-line interactive stuff, too copyrighted, too simple, too
>> smudgy, too cluttered, just not what _I_ was wanting for a simple 
>> handout.
>>
>> I searched Cloudy Night forum, nothing I hadn't found before. I asked a
>> couple of lunar observers, same things I had found plus, from one person,
>> the comment that I should draw my own. Yeah right! I do not draw worth a
>> **** and any handout based on my drawing would be utterly worthless 
>> except
>> as a bad example. A very, very bad example.
>>
>> So, I finally got a whole disk image using freeware Virtual Moon Atlas 
>> (VMA)
>> and stuck some labels on it. (As VMA is freeware, I figure there is no
>> problem - especially if credit is given.) Not too bad, detail sharp 
>> enough,
>> but still a bit too cluttered. OK, maybe do pull-out labels, maybe not 
>> ....
>> I discussed the problem with our own ASKC lunar expert Rob Robinson. 
>> Yeah,
>> it is a bit too cluttered.   Revise thinking.
>>
>> I settled on doing a lunar diagram in vector format, with labels, to be 
>> used
>> on its own or with a lunar picture. The vector format allows resizing
>> without loss of detail as it is not a bitmap type file, just lines and
>> shading. It is also small in file size.
>>
>> I am posting the result in the Yahoo group file area as "Lunar Map 
>> Handout
>> v1" in pdf format. It has a moon disk credited to VMA plus the diagram 
>> with
>> labels.
>>
>> I also posted the lunar diagram as a wmf file for import into anything 
>> that
>> can use it - which is most programs, I think.
>>
>> Anyway, feel free to use this for whatever anyone wants. It is not the
>> greatest in the world, but I think it will suit for a simple starter map.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kathy

We all have received that message about a lock bank account, the 
Greetings from the Ivory Coast, yada, yada, yada.

So, if you, for no other reason then self satisfaction, send a reply 
telling where or how to get off, is there a danger in doing this?

My thought are, they only have your email address, but if you reply, 
wouldn't they have your IP address?

Just wondering and letting my inner monologue out.

Oh, its really cold outside!  I think I have turned into an above 40�F 
astronomer.  Tests have shown that even using a refractor from a hot 
tubs tends to fog up the optics.

Joe

Since I can't find my cable and before I run down to Lowe's, can Cat% 
cable be run 250ft without loss of signal?

I would like to hook up an old computer in the new garage for internet 
access.  It would have been handy while Dave and I built the Warko II 
enclosure.

Thanks,

Joe

I hope not because I have responded to several of those using a hotmail
account I set up specifically to respond to messages like that and a
netbook on the wifi at a local tire store. I gave them bank account
numbers, pin numbers and everything, all imaginary of course. I figured I
had the time so why not screw with them. I'm sure it only took them 30
seconds to figure out I was re-gifting them, but what the hell, I had the
time.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> We all have received that message about a lock bank account, the
> Greetings from the Ivory Coast, yada, yada, yada.
>
> So, if you, for no other reason then self satisfaction, send a reply
> telling where or how to get off, is there a danger in doing this?
>
> My thought are, they only have your email address, but if you reply,
> wouldn't they have your IP address?
>
> Just wondering and letting my inner monologue out.
>
> Oh, its really cold outside! I think I have turned into an above 40�F
> astronomer. Tests have shown that even using a refractor from a hot
> tubs tends to fog up the optics.
>
> Joe
>  
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300 feet seems to be the limit with high quality cable and no emi
interferance.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Since I can't find my cable and before I run down to Lowe's, can Cat%
> cable be run 250ft without loss of signal?
>
> I would like to hook up an old computer in the new garage for internet
> access. It would have been handy while Dave and I built the Warko II
> enclosure.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>  
>


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Dave:

Did you get the phone shots of the Warko II wheels?

The upper garage is up to 57� with the heater and stove going.

Two good reasons for the wood burning stove:

1)  To keep coffee, hot chocolate and french vanilla hot.
2)  To thaw jalapeno cheese dip and keep it warm.

Joe

didn't get the photos

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dave:
>
> Did you get the phone shots of the Warko II wheels?
>
> The upper garage is up to 57� with the heater and stove going.
>
> Two good reasons for the wood burning stove:
>
> 1) To keep coffee, hot chocolate and french vanilla hot.
> 2) To thaw jalapeno cheese dip and keep it warm.
>
> Joe
> 
>


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David is correct (mostly) regarding Cat5 cable: The specification is 90 
meters of cable, patch-panel to patch-panel, with no other connections 
between, and up to 5 meters of local patch cord from the patch-panel(s) 
to the device(s).

However, I strongly urge that you use optics between your home and the 
garage.

If the end devices are at a different ground potential, then your Cat5 
cable, and your attached equipment, will be carrying that differential. 
For example, if there is a differential of +10VAC at one end, that much 
voltage will be present on the cable, and into your equipment, at the 
other end.

A larger problem, though, is lightning protection. If you are putting 
the cable through underground conduit the exposure is lessened, but is 
still quite present. Over-current/Surge/Lightning protection devices for 
Ethernet are available, but are quite pricey. I _STRONGLY_ recommend 
that you use optical fiber between the two. The price of optical 
converters is getting lower all the time. (quick search for 'Ethernet 
fiber converter' got a bunch of hits, there is one for ~$48, you'd need 
two, plus the fiber, ~100, unless I have a length that will work, then 
it's 0) If you'd like to explore that, I would be pleased to assist.

Jason.

On 11-Feb-12 10:58, David Young wrote:
> 300 feet seems to be the limit with high quality cable and no emi
> interferance.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...>  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Since I can't find my cable and before I run down to Lowe's, can Cat%
>> cable be run 250ft without loss of signal?
>>
>> I would like to hook up an old computer in the new garage for internet
>> access. It would have been handy while Dave and I built the Warko II
>> enclosure.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>
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interesting Item on MSNBC this evening regarding two sunspots:  
cosmiclog dot msnbc dot msn dot com/_news/2012/02/11/10382676-sun- 
points-a-loaded-gun-at-us

According to Spaceweather dot com:

"SUNSPOT OF INTEREST: For the second day in a row, sunspot AR1416 has  
doubled in size. Moreover, it has developed a "beta-gamma" magnetic  
field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares. Any such eruptions  
this weekend would be Earth directed as the sunspot turns to face our  
planet."

And of course the weather is going to cloud up just in time :-(....

Marcia

That's exactly the set of software I use. I'm very pleased with the results. My use is to convert DVDs I own to m4v format so I can play them on my iPad.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jason <bmwjason@...> wrote:
>
> I use Slysoft's AnyDVD-HD (paid version) to get the movie off the DVD, 
> http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
> 
> I use Handbrake (freeware) to create .mp4 files, http://handbrake.fr/  
> There is a way to install a .dll for Handbrake that then you can bypass 
> using AnyDVD. Handbrake can create many types of output files, .avi 
> included.
> 
> I use VLC's VideoLAN (freeware) to view movies: 
> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/.
> 
> Very happy with these applications.
> 
> Jason.
> 
> On 04-Feb-12 18:28, s.kranz1@... wrote:
> >
> > No, they would be for playing on a PC. I have no Apple hardware at all, and don't plan to get any.
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't think of Movie Maker, but I didn't think that would capture from the DVD. I'll have to play around with it and see what its capabilities are.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Brian Davidson"<brian@...>
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 6:12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] OFF TOPIC: Converting DVD movies to computer files
> >
> >   
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you wanting to convert this for iPod/iPhone/iPad use?
> >
> > Also, I would download a trial version of adobe premier. This will allow you to edit the files and convert them. Have you tried windows movie maker?
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2012, at 6:09 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Sorry for the OFF-TOPIC, but......
> >>
> >> After doing a Google search, I found dozens of sites with freeware to convert some of my DVD's movies to files. But what works and what doesn't? What is useful software, and what has viruses and other malware problems with it?
> >>
> >> I'd like to most likely convert my DVD's to *.avi format. That seems to be the most compressed file type while still getting a decent resolution.
> >>
> >> Is there any software that any of you have used and liked (f reeware or not)?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
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Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software for
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So Marcia, please pardon my ignorance. Does an M class whachama callit spell 
doom and gloom or is just going to be another pretty in the sky sans the clouds?

Johnny Allen
An Ignorant Okie




________________________________
From: Marcia Young <mryoung@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 11:11:21 PM
Subject: [ASKC] sunspot news

  
interesting Item on MSNBC this evening regarding two sunspots: 
cosmiclog dot msnbc dot msn dot com/_news/2012/02/11/10382676-sun- 
points-a-loaded-gun-at-us

According to Spaceweather dot com:

"SUNSPOT OF INTEREST: For the second day in a row, sunspot AR1416 has 
doubled in size. Moreover, it has developed a "beta-gamma" magnetic 
field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares. Any such eruptions 
this weekend would be Earth directed as the sunspot turns to face our 
planet."

And of course the weather is going to cloud up just in time :-(....

Marcia



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Just a possible medium class flare at the moment. Might set off some high
latitude aurora. Not enough energy in the group to spit out a nice X class
flare and get us some aurora this far south though. Hmmmm.... should we be
rooting for a nice big flare so we get to see aurora? A big x class might
do some damage to the grid or satelites :-(

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:16 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> So Marcia, please pardon my ignorance. Does an M class whachama callit
> spell
> doom and gloom or is just going to be another pretty in the sky sans the
> clouds?
>
> Johnny Allen
> An Ignorant Okie
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marcia Young <mryoung@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 11:11:21 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] sunspot news
>
>
>
> interesting Item on MSNBC this evening regarding two sunspots:
> cosmiclog dot msnbc dot msn dot com/_news/2012/02/11/10382676-sun-
> points-a-loaded-gun-at-us
>
> According to Spaceweather dot com:
>
> "SUNSPOT OF INTEREST: For the second day in a row, sunspot AR1416 has
> doubled in size. Moreover, it has developed a "beta-gamma" magnetic
> field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares. Any such eruptions
> this weekend would be Earth directed as the sunspot turns to face our
> planet."
>
> And of course the weather is going to cloud up just in time :-(....
>
> Marcia
>
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My 100mm Binos were out of alignment a couple of years back.I called  s to get an RA#.It took a couple of weeks or for the repair. The amount of  80.00 comes to mind. They are great now.









--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at the Warko?
> 
> They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased 
> after 2005 for only $25!
> 
> I didn't get them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

  Oops, I forgot to put in Celestron.

        Larry G

Thanks David
Johnny




________________________________
From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 12, 2012 10:09:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] sunspot news

Just a possible medium class flare at the moment. Might set off some high
latitude aurora. Not enough energy in the group to spit out a nice X class
flare and get us some aurora this far south though. Hmmmm.... should we be
rooting for a nice big flare so we get to see aurora? A big x class might
do some damage to the grid or satelites :-(

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:16 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> So Marcia, please pardon my ignorance. Does an M class whachama callit
> spell
> doom and gloom or is just going to be another pretty in the sky sans the
> clouds?
>
> Johnny Allen
> An Ignorant Okie
>
> ________________________________
> From: Marcia Young <mryoung@kc.rr.com>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 11:11:21 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] sunspot news
>
>
>
> interesting Item on MSNBC this evening regarding two sunspots:
> cosmiclog dot msnbc dot msn dot com/_news/2012/02/11/10382676-sun-
> points-a-loaded-gun-at-us
>
> According to Spaceweather dot com:
>
> "SUNSPOT OF INTEREST: For the second day in a row, sunspot AR1416 has
> doubled in size. Moreover, it has developed a "beta-gamma" magnetic
> field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares. Any such eruptions
> this weekend would be Earth directed as the sunspot turns to face our
> planet."
>
> And of course the weather is going to cloud up just in time :-(....
>
> Marcia
>
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iTunes will do that. And it's free. Download from apple.com. Once it's installed, when you insert a CD you'll be asked if you want iTunes to convert the tracks. Your mp3 files will be saved to My Music > iTunes > iTunes Media > Music, then individual folders arranged by artist's name. (iTunes will create that file structure for you.)

Rich Hathaway

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
> to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software for
> converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi guys!

    Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC 
member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend.   And we even think 
it is a new discovery.
Currently it has the designation T0003C

It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.

He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the 
sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his 
submission to the Minor Planet Center.

It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has 
about 50 observations while I write this.
You can see these follow ups at:
http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y

The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y

I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field 
with the search imaging.
Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif

The equipment he was using was:
LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to 
David Levy)
- after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a 
whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
   Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do 
something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster 
and more directly.
A hyperstar
a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan; 
drive the scope and loop back to image again.
Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could 
slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download 
before slewing.
All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more 
ground.   It looks like it paid off this weekend.

So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one 
which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet 
discovery for Fred!

Clear skies,
jen


>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Awesome!!!


Thanks,
Cindy

On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS <comments@icstars.com> wrote:

> Hi guys!
> 
> Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC 
> member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think 
> it is a new discovery.
> Currently it has the designation T0003C
> 
> It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> 
> He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the 
> sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his 
> submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> 
> It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has 
> about 50 observations while I write this.
> You can see these follow ups at:
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> 
> The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> 
> I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field 
> with the search imaging.
> Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> 
> The equipment he was using was:
> LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to 
> David Levy)
> - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a 
> whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do 
> something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster 
> and more directly.
> A hyperstar
> a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan; 
> drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could 
> slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download 
> before slewing.
> All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more 
> ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> 
> So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one 
> which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet 
> discovery for Fred!
> 
> Clear skies,
> jen
> 
> >
> 
> Jen Dudley Winter -
> 
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> 
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!
> Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
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Gee,
   Now I guess I have to make the animation of 
the time sequence I shot of these 2 naughty sunspots acting up on Friday.

    I was testing and noticed they were really 
interacting unusually.   What looked like a nice 
flare occurred between them, then we saw a filament form and then disappear.
The filament is a prominence face-on.   It is 
unusual to have a filament break up completely so 
I thought it must have become a CME coronal Mass ejection.

Interesting.

jen

At 11:11 PM 2/11/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>interesting Item on MSNBC this evening regarding two sunspots:
>cosmiclog dot msnbc dot msn dot com/_news/2012/02/11/10382676-sun-
>points-a-loaded-gun-at-us
>
>According to Spaceweather dot com:
>
>"SUNSPOT OF INTEREST: For the second day in a row, sunspot AR1416 has
>doubled in size. Moreover, it has developed a "beta-gamma" magnetic
>field that harbors energy for M-class solar flares. Any such eruptions
>this weekend would be Earth directed as the sunspot turns to face our
>planet."
>
>And of course the weather is going to cloud up just in time :-(....
>
>Marcia
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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While watching the page of observations and 
orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
That's because it went somewhere else.
The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.

http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html

Clear skies,
jen

At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Awesome!!!
>
>Thanks,
>Cindy
>
>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@icstars.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys!
> >
> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > it is a new discovery.
> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >
> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >
> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >
> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > You can see these follow ups at:
> > 
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> >
> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > 
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> >
> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > with the search imaging.
> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > 
> <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> >
> > The equipment he was using was:
> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > David Levy)
> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > and more directly.
> > A hyperstar
> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > before slewing.
> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >
> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > discovery for Fred!
> >
> > Clear skies,
> > jen
> >
> > >
> >
> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >
> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >
> > Owner,
> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > TODAY(Beta) � Powered by Yahoo!
> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> > Privacy Policy
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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congradulations!!!!

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS <comments@icstars.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi guys!
>
> Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> it is a new discovery.
> Currently it has the designation T0003C
>
> It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
>
> He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> submission to the Minor Planet Center.
>
> It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> about 50 observations while I write this.
> You can see these follow ups at:
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
>
> The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
>
> I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> with the search imaging.
> Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
>
> The equipment he was using was:
> LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> David Levy)
> - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> and more directly.
> A hyperstar
> a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> before slewing.
> All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
>
> So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> discovery for Fred!
>
> Clear skies,
> jen
>
> >
>
> Jen Dudley Winter -
>
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM <http://icstars.com/> - www.ICSTARS.com<http://www.icstars.com/>
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com <http://www.daystarfilters.com/>
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net<http://www.astronomicaltours.net/>
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org<http://www.stargardenfoundation.org/>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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Cool. I found another free software package and started the process. I have
a new car that will take an sd chip or a usb jump drive of music. Marcia's
car has a huge hard drive that allows you to store you music on it. My new
one only has a single cd/dvd player but since you can put a zillion songs
on one of those little chips I'll just start doing that. That will give me
something to do tomorrow while the weather sucks. It'll be nice when I
don't care for what's on the radio or sirus.

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, richhathaway <richhathaway@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> iTunes will do that. And it's free. Download from apple.com. Once it's
> installed, when you insert a CD you'll be asked if you want iTunes to
> convert the tracks. Your mp3 files will be saved to My Music > iTunes >
> iTunes Media > Music, then individual folders arranged by artist's name.
> (iTunes will create that file structure for you.)
>
> Rich Hathaway
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
> > to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software
> for
> > converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Xm radio and like services will die an early death.  There are countless free apps for focused music and talk radio programs.  

On Feb 12, 2012, at 3:53 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Cool. I found another free software package and started the process. I have
> a new car that will take an sd chip or a usb jump drive of music. Marcia's
> car has a huge hard drive that allows you to store you music on it. My new
> one only has a single cd/dvd player but since you can put a zillion songs
> on one of those little chips I'll just start doing that. That will give me
> something to do tomorrow while the weather sucks. It'll be nice when I
> don't care for what's on the radio or sirus.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, richhathaway <richhathaway@...>wrote:
> 
>> **
>> 
>> 
>> iTunes will do that. And it's free. Download from apple.com. Once it's
>> installed, when you insert a CD you'll be asked if you want iTunes to
>> convert the tracks. Your mp3 files will be saved to My Music > iTunes >
>> iTunes Media > Music, then individual folders arranged by artist's name.
>> (iTunes will create that file structure for you.)
>> 
>> Rich Hathaway
>> 
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
>>> to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software
>> for
>>> converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Jen, this is great news!

 

 

Carroll Iorg

President, Astronomical League

president@...

www.astroleague.org

 

 

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ICSTARS
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)

 

  

While watching the page of observations and 
orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
That's because it went somewhere else.
The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.

http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html

Clear skies,
jen

At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Awesome!!!
>
>Thanks,
>Cindy
>
>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...
<mailto:comments%40icstars.com> > wrote:
>
> > Hi guys!
> >
> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > it is a new discovery.
> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >
> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >
> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >
> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > You can see these follow ups at:
> > 
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C
<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>
&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C
<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>
&obs=y
> >
> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > 
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C
<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>
&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C
<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>
&orb=y
> >
> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > with the search imaging.
> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > 
>
<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd
/comet/Discovery.gif
> >
> > The equipment he was using was:
> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > David Levy)
> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > and more directly.
> > A hyperstar
> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > before slewing.
> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >
> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > discovery for Fred!
> >
> > Clear skies,
> > jen
> >
> > >
> >
> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >
> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >
> > Owner,
> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > TODAY(Beta) . Powered by Yahoo!
> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> > Privacy Policy
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org

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Hey, Jen, tell Fred, "Way Cool", since I have never seen him on here.
I updated the comets on my iPad's Sky Safari and noticed that that bright stars in Aries point right to comet Bruenjes and not to far from Jupiter.  His images show a small tail.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: ICSTARS <comments@icstars.com>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> 
>
>  
>While watching the page of observations and 
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
>That's because it went somewhere else.
>The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
>(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>
>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
>
>Clear skies,
>jen
>
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Awesome!!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Cindy
>>
>>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
>><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys!
>> >
>> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
>> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
>> > it is a new discovery.
>> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
>> >
>> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
>> >
>> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
>> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
>> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
>> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
>> >
>> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
>> > about 50 observations while I write this.
>> > You can see these follow ups at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
>> >
>> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
>> >
>> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
>> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
>> > with the search imaging.
>> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
>> > 
>> <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
>> >
>> > The equipment he was using was:
>> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
>> > David Levy)
>> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
>> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
>> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
>> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
>> > and more directly.
>> > A hyperstar
>> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
>> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
>> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
>> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
>> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
>> > before slewing.
>> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
>> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
>> >
>> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
>> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
>> > discovery for Fred!
>> >
>> > Clear skies,
>> > jen
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Jen Dudley Winter -
>> >
>> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> >
>> > Owner,
>> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
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Absolutely fantastic. Great news that it is a new one.

Gil Machin

WOW!!!

Fantastic!  Send our congrats and awe to Fred ----

(And, I hesitate to ask, but, ummm, can I call it "Comet Fred" becase I 
don't know the correct pronunciation of "Bruenjes??? )

Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)


While watching the page of observations and
orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
That's because it went somewhere else.
The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.

http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html

Clear skies,
jen

At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Awesome!!!
>
>Thanks,
>Cindy
>
>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys!
> >
> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > it is a new discovery.
> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >
> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >
> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >
> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > You can see these follow ups at:
> >
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> >
> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> >
> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> >
> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > with the search imaging.
> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> >
> <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> >
> > The equipment he was using was:
> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > David Levy)
> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > and more directly.
> > A hyperstar
> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > before slewing.
> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >
> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > discovery for Fred!
> >
> > Clear skies,
> > jen
> >
> > >
Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org

My question and reason too! At least in the ASKC we should be able to  
nickname it Comet Fred!

Tell him WOW!! from me.
Marcia
On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Kathy Machin wrote:

>
> WOW!!!
>
> Fantastic! Send our congrats and awe to Fred ----
>
> (And, I hesitate to ask, but, ummm, can I call it "Comet Fred"  
> becase I
> don't know the correct pronunciation of "Bruenjes??? )
>
> Kathy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ICSTARS" <comments@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
>
> While watching the page of observations and
> orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> That's because it went somewhere else.
> The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> (Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>
> http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
>
> Clear skies,
> jen
>
> At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Awesome!!!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cindy
> >
> >On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> ><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys!
> > >
> > > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even  
> think
> > > it is a new discovery.
> > > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > >
> > > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > >
> > > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon  
> spoiled the
> > > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > >
> > > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and  
> has
> > > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > > You can see these follow ups at:
> > >
> > <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y 
> >http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> > >
> > > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > >
> > <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y 
> >http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> > >
> > > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide  
> field
> > > with the search imaging.
> > > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > >
> > <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> > >
> > > The equipment he was using was:
> > > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation  
> thanks to
> > > David Levy)
> > > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > > and more directly.
> > > A hyperstar
> > > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to  
> scan;
> > > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he  
> could
> > > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to  
> download
> > > before slewing.
> > > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > >
> > > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was  
> one
> > > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > > discovery for Fred!
> > >
> > > Clear skies,
> > > jen
> > >
> > > >
> Jen Dudley Winter -
>
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
>
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RE:  Comet Fred

We have joked about comet Fred being his chance 
for people to learn how to pronounce his name!
and Bruenjes rhymes with "sponges"

Hey.  They all sorted out Hyakutake, right?

We're thinking of celebrating with Dinner in KC on Saturday night.
Turns out that Saturday, Feb 18th was the date 
Clyde Tombaugh (also hard to pronounce) discovered Pluto.
That should be a fitting date to celebrate, eh?

Clera skies,
jen

At 05:08 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>WOW!!!
>
>Fantastic! Send our congrats and awe to Fred ----
>
>(And, I hesitate to ask, but, ummm, can I call it "Comet Fred" becase I
>don't know the correct pronunciation of "Bruenjes??? )
>
>Kathy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ICSTARS" <<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...>
>To: <<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
>
>While watching the page of observations and
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
>That's because it went somewhere else.
>The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
>(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>
><http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
>
>Clear skies,
>jen
>
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Awesome!!!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cindy
> >
> >On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> ><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com><mailto:comment 
> s%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys!
> > >
> > > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > > it is a new discovery.
> > > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > >
> > > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > >
> > > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > >
> > > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > > You can see these follow ups at:
> > >
> > 
> <<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> > >
> > > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > >
> > 
> <<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> > >
> > > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > > with the search imaging.
> > > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > >
> > 
> <<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> > >
> > > The equipment he was using was:
> > > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > > David Levy)
> > > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > > and more directly.
> > > A hyperstar
> > > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > > before slewing.
> > > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > >
> > > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > > discovery for Fred!
> > >
> > > Clear skies,
> > > jen
> > >
> > > >
>Jen Dudley Winter -
>
>NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
>Owner,
>ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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I think this is a first for any ASKC member.  I don't know of any member in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet.  This is a very big deal folks!  With all the automated searches now being done, it is getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: ICSTARS <comments@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> 
>
>  
>While watching the page of observations and 
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
>That's because it went somewhere else.
>The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
>(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>
>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
>
>Clear skies,
>jen
>
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Awesome!!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Cindy
>>
>>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
>><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys!
>> >
>> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
>> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
>> > it is a new discovery.
>> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
>> >
>> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
>> >
>> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
>> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
>> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
>> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
>> >
>> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
>> > about 50 observations while I write this.
>> > You can see these follow ups at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
>> >
>> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
>> >
>> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
>> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
>> > with the search imaging.
>> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
>> > 
>> <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
>> >
>> > The equipment he was using was:
>> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
>> > David Levy)
>> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
>> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
>> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
>> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
>> > and more directly.
>> > A hyperstar
>> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
>> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
>> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
>> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
>> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
>> > before slewing.
>> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
>> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
>> >
>> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
>> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
>> > discovery for Fred!
>> >
>> > Clear skies,
>> > jen
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Jen Dudley Winter -
>> >
>> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> >
>> > Owner,
>> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!
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>> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
>> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
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>>
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>Jen Dudley Winter -
>
>NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
>Owner,
>ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
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David,

I have been using MusicMatch JukeBox to do that for years.
I converted my whole library of CD music to MP3 format.
You can save it to wherever you like (any folder of your
choice). Once converted, there's no reason you can't copy
it to an SD chip. I haven't tried converting any directly
to an SD chip, but have copied hundreds to my MP3 player.
I have Version 7, but several versions can be found at:

http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html

E-mail me privately for details, if necessary (serial
numbers, how NOT to let it get online, etc.).  ;)

-John C


--- David Young wrote:
>
> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........
> any ideas on how to convert tracks from a cd to mp3
> format? There's a bunch of software for converting
> things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip
> in mp3.
> 

Regarding what Jason said.

 

Think Powell, the AIC, lightning strikes and all the work we've been doing
the last few months and the money we've spent.

 

Optical makes life so much easier when dealing with these sorts of issues.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:31 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: David Young
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Cat5

 

  

David is correct (mostly) regarding Cat5 cable: The specification is 90 
meters of cable, patch-panel to patch-panel, with no other connections 
between, and up to 5 meters of local patch cord from the patch-panel(s) 
to the device(s).

However, I strongly urge that you use optics between your home and the 
garage.

If the end devices are at a different ground potential, then your Cat5 
cable, and your attached equipment, will be carrying that differential. 
For example, if there is a differential of +10VAC at one end, that much 
voltage will be present on the cable, and into your equipment, at the 
other end.

A larger problem, though, is lightning protection. If you are putting 
the cable through underground conduit the exposure is lessened, but is 
still quite present. Over-current/Surge/Lightning protection devices for 
Ethernet are available, but are quite pricey. I _STRONGLY_ recommend 
that you use optical fiber between the two. The price of optical 
converters is getting lower all the time. (quick search for 'Ethernet 
fiber converter' got a bunch of hits, there is one for ~$48, you'd need 
two, plus the fiber, ~100, unless I have a length that will work, then 
it's 0) If you'd like to explore that, I would be pleased to assist.

Jason.

On 11-Feb-12 10:58, David Young wrote:
> 300 feet seems to be the limit with high quality cable and no emi
> interferance.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Joseph Wright<jos.wright@...
<mailto:jos.wright%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Since I can't find my cable and before I run down to Lowe's, can Cat%
>> cable be run 250ft without loss of signal?
>>
>> I would like to hook up an old computer in the new garage for internet
>> access. It would have been handy while Dave and I built the Warko II
>> enclosure.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>





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I've started on the Mozart already and will start on the killer Bees
tomorrow. I have a bit of Johann, Ludwig and Johannes to pick through.
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:04 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Xm radio and like services will die an early death. There are countless
> free apps for focused music and talk radio programs.
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 3:53 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> > Cool. I found another free software package and started the process. I
> have
> > a new car that will take an sd chip or a usb jump drive of music.
> Marcia's
> > car has a huge hard drive that allows you to store you music on it. My
> new
> > one only has a single cd/dvd player but since you can put a zillion songs
> > on one of those little chips I'll just start doing that. That will give
> me
> > something to do tomorrow while the weather sucks. It'll be nice when I
> > don't care for what's on the radio or sirus.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, richhathaway <richhathaway@...
> >wrote:
> >
> >> **
>
> >>
> >>
> >> iTunes will do that. And it's free. Download from apple.com. Once it's
> >> installed, when you insert a CD you'll be asked if you want iTunes to
> >> convert the tracks. Your mp3 files will be saved to My Music > iTunes >
> >> iTunes Media > Music, then individual folders arranged by artist's name.
> >> (iTunes will create that file structure for you.)
> >>
> >> Rich Hathaway
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
> >>> to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software
> >> for
> >>> converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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Does anyone know how to code in PHP?



Thanks!

-Brian

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You shouldn't reply to the phising because then they know your e-mail account is an active account.
 
Nancy

--- On Sat, 2/11/12, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:


From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
Subject: [ASKC] Stupid Question of the Day
To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 9:18 AM



  



We all have received that message about a lock bank account, the 
Greetings from the Ivory Coast, yada, yada, yada.

So, if you, for no other reason then self satisfaction, send a reply 
telling where or how to get off, is there a danger in doing this?

My thought are, they only have your email address, but if you reply, 
wouldn't they have your IP address?

Just wondering and letting my inner monologue out.

Oh, its really cold outside! I think I have turned into an above 40°F 
astronomer. Tests have shown that even using a refractor from a hot 
tubs tends to fog up the optics.

Joe







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So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
Tim Kristl
 
 
In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
zenitrammot@... writes:

 
 
 
I think this is a first for any ASKC member.  I don't know of any  member 
in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet.  This  is a very 
big deal folks!  With all the automated searches now being  done, it is 
getting harder and harder for an individual to find a  comet.


Tom J Martinez
_http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_ (http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/) 

>________________________________
>  From: ICSTARS <_comments@..._ (mailto:comments@...) >
>To:  _ASKC@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)  
>Sent:  Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2  (BRUENJES)
> 
>
>  
>While watching the page of  observations and 
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data  disappear.
>That's because it went somewhere else.
>The minor  planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
>(Bruenjes) as a new  discovery.
>
>_http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_ 
(http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html) 
>
>Clear  skies,
>jen
>
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you  wrote:
>>
>>
>>Awesome!!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Cindy
>>
>>On  Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS  
>><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._ 
(mailto:comments@...) >  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys!
>> >
>> >  Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
>> >  member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even  think
>> > it is a new discovery.
>> > Currently it  has the designation T0003C
>> >
>> > It's fuzzy and  kind of blueish green.
>> >
>> > He was open and comet  hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
>> > sky - and  found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
>> > He followed  up last night with almost 50 images and made his
>> > submission  to the Minor Planet Center.
>> >
>> > It has been  followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
>> > about  50 observations while I write this.
>> > You can see these follow  ups at:
>> > 
>> 
<_http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ (http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y) 
>_http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y) 
>>  >
>> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated  at:
>> > 
>> 
<_http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ (http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y) 
>_http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y) 
>>  >
>> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see  it.
>> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was  so wide field
>> > with the search imaging.
>> > Fred  posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
>> >  
>> <_http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
(http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif) 
>_http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ (http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif) 
>>  >
>> > The equipment he was using was:
>> >  LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks  to
>> > David Levy)
>> > - after a lightning strike,  the board fried and Fred fabricated a
>> > whole new green PCB  control board and reprogrammed it.
>> > Because he wrote the  slewing script himself, he was able to do
>> > something new in  the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
>> > and more  directly.
>> > A hyperstar
>> > a Canon DSLR mounted  on the hyperstar
>> > He also wrote his own script to select  candidate locations to scan;
>> > drive the scope and loop back to  image again.
>> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and  firmware so that he could
>> > slew WHILE the camera was  downloading instead of waiting to download
>> > before  slewing.
>> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover  a lot more
>> > ground. It looks like it paid off this  weekend.
>> >
>> > So we're all waiting with baited  breath to see if the comet was one
>> > which was lost and now  re-found or if it could be a new comet
>> > discovery for  Fred!
>> >
>> > Clear skies,
>> >  jen
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> >  Jen Dudley Winter -
>> >
>> > NASA / JPL Solar System  Ambassador
>> >
>> > Owner,
>> >  ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > Daystar Filters -  www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > Astronomical Tours -  www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > StarGarden Foundation -  www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> >
>> > [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered  by Yahoo!
>> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious  dinner
>> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
>>  salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
>> >  Privacy Policy
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have  been removed]
>>
>>
>
>Jen Dudley Winter  -
>
>NASA / JPL Solar System  Ambassador
>
>Owner,
>ICSTARS.COM -  www.ICSTARS.com
>Daystar Filters -  www.DayStarFilters.com
>Astronomical Tours -  www.AstronomicalTours.net
>StarGarden Foundation -  www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
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>
>
> 
>
>

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Hey John! 



I used MusicMatch Jukebox up to a  few years ago.  The version I was using (I don't remember now) didn't work with anything above Internet Explorer 6.0. Is that still the case, or do the newer versions work with IE 7 or IE 8? 



Thanks! 

-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "skygazer1956" <John.Cravens@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:58:27 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: off topic again 

  




David, 

I have been using MusicMatch JukeBox to do that for years. 
I converted my whole library of CD music to MP3 format. 
You can save it to wherever you like (any folder of your 
choice). Once converted, there's no reason you can't copy 
it to an SD chip. I haven't tried converting any directly 
to an SD chip, but have copied hundreds to my MP3 player. 
I have Version 7, but several versions can be found at: 

http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html 

E-mail me privately for details, if necessary (serial 
numbers, how NOT to let it get online, etc.). ;) 

-John C 

--- David Young wrote: 
> 
> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........ 
> any ideas on how to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 
> format? There's a bunch of software for converting 
> things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip 
> in mp3. 
> 




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Guide is curretly estimating the magnitude at 16.0 and dropping a tenth of a magnitude every couple days. By this weekend, it shows 16.2. 



Of course, if the weather is good and I'm out observing, I'll try anyway, but it's doubtful that this will be a visual comet. 


-Scott 


----- Original Message -----


From: "Tom Martinez" <zenitrammot@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:46:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) 

  




I think this is a first for any ASKC member.  I don't know of any member in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet.  This is a very big deal folks!  With all the automated searches now being done, it is getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet. 

  
Tom J Martinez 
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/ 

>________________________________ 
> From: ICSTARS < comments@... > 
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM 
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) 
> 
> 
>  
>While watching the page of observations and 
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear. 
>That's because it went somewhere else. 
>The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
>(Bruenjes) as a new discovery. 
> 
> http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html 
> 
>Clear skies, 
>jen 
> 
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>>Awesome!!! 
>> 
>>Thanks, 
>>Cindy 
>> 
>>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
>><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com> comments@... > wrote: 
>> 
>> > Hi guys! 
>> > 
>> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC 
>> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think 
>> > it is a new discovery. 
>> > Currently it has the designation T0003C 
>> > 
>> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green. 
>> > 
>> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the 
>> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images. 
>> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his 
>> > submission to the Minor Planet Center. 
>> > 
>> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has 
>> > about 50 observations while I write this. 
>> > You can see these follow ups at: 
>> > 
>> < http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y > http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y 
>> > 
>> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at: 
>> > 
>> < http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y > http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y 
>> > 
>> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it. 
>> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field 
>> > with the search imaging. 
>> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images. 
>> > 
>> < http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif > http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif 
>> > 
>> > The equipment he was using was: 
>> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to 
>> > David Levy) 
>> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a 
>> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it. 
>> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do 
>> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster 
>> > and more directly. 
>> > A hyperstar 
>> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar 
>> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan; 
>> > drive the scope and loop back to image again. 
>> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could 
>> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download 
>> > before slewing. 
>> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more 
>> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend. 
>> > 
>> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one 
>> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet 
>> > discovery for Fred! 
>> > 
>> > Clear skies, 
>> > jen 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > Jen Dudley Winter - 
>> > 
>> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador 
>> > 
>> > Owner, 
>> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com 
>> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com 
>> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net 
>> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org 
>> > 
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo! 
>> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner 
>> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
>> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories. 
>> > Privacy Policy 
>> 
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
>> 
>> 
> 
>Jen Dudley Winter - 
> 
>NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador 
> 
>Owner, 
>ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com 
>Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com 
>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net 
>StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Scott and all,

I've been using Google Chrome instead of IE. It seems to be a lot faster. I
don't know if MusicMatch Jukebox will work any better for you with GC but
you might give it a try.

Gary

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Hey John!
>
> I used MusicMatch Jukebox up to a  few years ago.  The version I was using
> (I don't remember now) didn't work with anything above Internet Explorer
> 6.0. Is that still the case, or do the newer versions work with IE 7 or IE
> 8?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "skygazer1956" <John.Cravens@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:58:27 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: off topic again
>
>
>
> David,
>
> I have been using MusicMatch JukeBox to do that for years.
> I converted my whole library of CD music to MP3 format.
> You can save it to wherever you like (any folder of your
> choice). Once converted, there's no reason you can't copy
> it to an SD chip. I haven't tried converting any directly
> to an SD chip, but have copied hundreds to my MP3 player.
> I have Version 7, but several versions can be found at:
>
> http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html
>
> E-mail me privately for details, if necessary (serial
> numbers, how NOT to let it get online, etc.). ;)
>
> -John C
>
> --- David Young wrote:
> >
> > Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........
> > any ideas on how to convert tracks from a cd to mp3
> > format? There's a bunch of software for converting
> > things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip
> > in mp3.
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If we have the paperwork,, Celestron will replace the set for $25. The 
in service date at the Warko was June 2006. I already have the RA and 
shipping labels, but time is running out. No one seems to know where 
they came from.

Joe

>
> My 100mm Binos were out of alignment a couple of years back.I called s 
> to get an RA#.It took a couple of weeks or for the repair. The amount 
> of 80.00 comes to mind. They are great now.
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>, Joseph 
> Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
> >
> > Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at 
> the Warko?
> >
> > They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased
> > after 2005 for only $25!
> >
> > I didn't get them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe
> >
>
> 

Tim,

   Yeah, the KC Star was involved.   I still have 
a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot 
of press all over the world over this one.
You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot 
of places who are posting the news.

Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon newscast.
Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!

Jen

At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
>Tim Kristl
>
>
>In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
>
>I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any member
>in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet. This is a very
>big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
>getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
>
>Tom J Martinez
>_<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_ 
>(http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
>
> >________________________________
> > From: ICSTARS 
> <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._ 
> (mailto:comments@...) >
> >To: 
> <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> >
> >
> >
> >While watching the page of observations and
> >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> >That's because it went somewhere else.
> >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> >
> >_<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12 
> C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
>(http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> >
> >Clear skies,
> >jen
> >
> >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Awesome!!!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Cindy
> >>
> >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
>(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi guys!
> >> >
> >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> >> > it is a new discovery.
> >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >> >
> >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >> >
> >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >> >
> >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> >> >
> >>
><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>
>(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >> >
> >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> >> >
> >>
><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>
>(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >> >
> >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> >> > with the search imaging.
> >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> >> >
> >> 
> <_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>
>(http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g 
> if_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
> (http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >> >
> >> > The equipment he was using was:
> >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> >> > David Levy)
> >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> >> > and more directly.
> >> > A hyperstar
> >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> >> > before slewing.
> >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >> >
> >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> >> > discovery for Fred!
> >> >
> >> > Clear skies,
> >> > jen
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >> >
> >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >> >
> >> > Owner,
> >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > TODAY(Beta) � Powered by Yahoo!
> >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
> >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> >> > Privacy Policy
> >>
> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Jen Dudley Winter -
> >
> >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >
> >Owner,
> >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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It sure would be cool if Fred wanted to do a presentation at the 2012 MSRAL conference on his journey to discovery. 

 

Fred- can we sign you up? Please contact me off line at Eric@...

 

Thanks

 

--eric

 

 

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martinez
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:46 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)

 

  

I think this is a first for any ASKC member.  I don't know of any member in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet.  This is a very big deal folks!  With all the automated searches now being done, it is getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: ICSTARS <comments@... <mailto:comments%40icstars.com> >
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  
>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> 
>
>  
>While watching the page of observations and 
>orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
>That's because it went somewhere else.
>The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
>(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>
>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
>
>Clear skies,
>jen
>
>At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Awesome!!!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Cindy
>>
>>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
>><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@icstars.com <mailto:comments%40icstars.com> > wrote:
>>
>> > Hi guys!
>> >
>> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
>> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
>> > it is a new discovery.
>> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
>> >
>> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
>> >
>> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
>> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
>> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
>> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
>> >
>> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
>> > about 50 observations while I write this.
>> > You can see these follow ups at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y> &obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y> &obs=y
>> >
>> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
>> > 
>> <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y> &orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y> &orb=y
>> >
>> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
>> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
>> > with the search imaging.
>> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
>> > 
>> <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
>> >
>> > The equipment he was using was:
>> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
>> > David Levy)
>> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
>> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
>> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
>> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
>> > and more directly.
>> > A hyperstar
>> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
>> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
>> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
>> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
>> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
>> > before slewing.
>> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
>> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
>> >
>> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
>> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
>> > discovery for Fred!
>> >
>> > Clear skies,
>> > jen
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Jen Dudley Winter -
>> >
>> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> >
>> > Owner,
>> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!
>> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
>> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's 
>> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
>> > Privacy Policy
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>Jen Dudley Winter -
>
>NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
>Owner,
>ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jen,

Please let us know when this is in the KC Star.  You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
Grant

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
>
> Tim,
> 
>    Yeah, the KC Star was involved.   I still have 
> a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot 
> of press all over the world over this one.
> You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot 
> of places who are posting the news.
> 
> Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon newscast.
> Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
> 
> Jen
> 
> At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
> >Tim Kristl
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
> >
> >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any member
> >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet. This is a very
> >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
> >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
> >
> >Tom J Martinez
> >_<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_ 
> >(http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: ICSTARS 
> > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._ 
> > (mailto:comments@...) >
> > >To: 
> > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_ 
> > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >While watching the page of observations and
> > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> > >That's because it went somewhere else.
> > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> > >
> > >_<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12 
> > C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
> >(http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> > >
> > >Clear skies,
> > >jen
> > >
> > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Awesome!!!
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Cindy
> > >>
> > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi guys!
> > >> >
> > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > >> > it is a new discovery.
> > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > >> >
> > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > >> >
> > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > >> >
> > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> > >> >
> > >>
> ><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
> >
> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > >> >
> > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > >> >
> > >>
> ><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
> >
> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > >> >
> > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > >> > with the search imaging.
> > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > <_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
> >
> >(http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > >_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g 
> > if_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
> > (http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > >> >
> > >> > The equipment he was using was:
> > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > >> > David Levy)
> > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > >> > and more directly.
> > >> > A hyperstar
> > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > >> > before slewing.
> > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > >> >
> > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > >> > discovery for Fred!
> > >> >
> > >> > Clear skies,
> > >> > jen
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> > >> >
> > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > >> >
> > >> > Owner,
> > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > >> >
> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > TODAY(Beta) � Powered by Yahoo!
> > >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> > >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
> > >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> > >> > Privacy Policy
> > >>
> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Jen Dudley Winter -
> > >
> > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > >
> > >Owner,
> > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> 
> Jen Dudley Winter -
> 
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> 
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I just talked to the KC Star writer who is working on the article.  Please let me know when the article in online.  I don't get the paper at home, so if someone could save the paper version for the ASKC History Books, that would be great.  I'm leaving for Colorado tomorrow, but I'll keep in touch about this via the internet.  I have archived the articles from Fred's Blog and the Univese Today.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: mllrgrnt <mllrgrnt@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:19 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] Re: COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) - on FOX 4
> 
>
>  
>Jen,
>
>Please let us know when this is in the KC Star.  You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
>Grant
>
>--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
>>
>> Tim,
>> 
>>    Yeah, the KC Star was involved.   I still have 
>> a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot 
>> of press all over the world over this one.
>> You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot 
>> of places who are posting the news.
>> 
>> Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon newscast.
>> Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
>> 
>> Jen
>> 
>> At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
>> >Tim Kristl
>> >
>> >
>> >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>> ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
>> >
>> >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any member
>> >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet. This is a very
>> >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
>> >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
>> >
>> >Tom J Martinez
>> >_<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_ 
>> >(http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: ICSTARS 
>> > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._ 
>> > (mailto:comments@...) >
>> > >To: 
>> > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_ 
>> > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
>> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
>> > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >While watching the page of observations and
>> > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
>> > >That's because it went somewhere else.
>> > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
>> > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
>> > >
>> > >_<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12 
>> > C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
>> >(http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
>> > >
>> > >Clear skies,
>> > >jen
>> > >
>> > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>Awesome!!!
>> > >>
>> > >>Thanks,
>> > >>Cindy
>> > >>
>> > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
>> > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
>> >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi guys!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
>> > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
>> > >> > it is a new discovery.
>> > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
>> > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
>> > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
>> > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
>> > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
>> > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> ><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
>> > >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
>> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>> >
>> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> ><_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
>> > >_<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs 
>> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>> >
>> >(http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
>> > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
>> > >> > with the search imaging.
>> > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
>> > >> >
>> > >> 
>> > <_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>> >
>> >(http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
>> > >_<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g 
>> > if_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>> > (http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The equipment he was using was:
>> > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
>> > >> > David Levy)
>> > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
>> > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
>> > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
>> > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
>> > >> > and more directly.
>> > >> > A hyperstar
>> > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
>> > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
>> > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
>> > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
>> > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
>> > >> > before slewing.
>> > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
>> > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
>> > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
>> > >> > discovery for Fred!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Clear skies,
>> > >> > jen
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
>> > >> >
>> > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Owner,
>> > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> > >> >
>> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > TODAY(Beta) • Powered by Yahoo!
>> > >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
>> > >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
>> > >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
>> > >> > Privacy Policy
>> > >>
>> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >Jen Dudley Winter -
>> > >
>> > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> > >
>> > >Owner,
>> > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> > >
>> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> Jen Dudley Winter -
>> 
>> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>> 
>> Owner,
>> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
>> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
>> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
>> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
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>
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You should probably check the documentation on iTunes if you do this as
iTunes may not be automatically configured to convert to an mp3 file format.
There is more than one type of audio formats that can be selected in iTunes.
Even for mp3s, there are different options that can be selected, but
basically you're trading file size for audio quality.

 

You can change the import settings to MP3, WAV, AAC, AIFF and Apple
Lossless.  I use mp3 and set it to 256 kbps (kilo bits per second), stereo
with high-quality, variable bit-length recording.  Mp3 is a lossy
compression, but it's pretty universal and with high enough settings (like
the ones I just listed) it sounds pretty good.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
richhathaway
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:37 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: off topic again

 

  

iTunes will do that. And it's free. Download from apple.com. Once it's
installed, when you insert a CD you'll be asked if you want iTunes to
convert the tracks. Your mp3 files will be saved to My Music > iTunes >
iTunes Media > Music, then individual folders arranged by artist's name.
(iTunes will create that file structure for you.)

Rich Hathaway

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David Young
<youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
> to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software for
> converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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As far as I can tell, they plan to run the 
article in the Star tonight for tomorrow's paper.
I'm not sure I should be saving tear sheets for 
you guys in town.   If they miss the early State 
edition, it may only run in the Metro, which shoves later tonight.
We're still working on photos and cutlines.   We'll see.

Working with the Star journalist makes me miss Vic.
They look to have assigned a feature columnist to 
the story and she had no background whatsoever.
So we spent a lot of time expanding on all the little bitty basics.
There is one nice article out  at a paper in 
North Dakota;  where a local news reporter is 
also an amateur who has his own column. He did a nice job.
http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2012/02/13/new-comet-bruenjes-brushes-the-lovely-dust/

Grant, I did speak to Jack at the Daily Star 
Journal.   He interviewed Fred toward the end of 
the day by phone, but Fred said he was really 
tongue tied and fumbled a lot after being so exhausted.
Fred doesn't seem hopeful that anything will come 
of that, but I figure he's tired and being hard on himself.

fred's direct email address in case anyone wants 
to send him personal notes is:   fred@...
He doesn't really do much for yahoo 
groups.  That's why I've been passing all his info along for the club.

Clear skies,
jen

At 04:19 PM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>Jen,
>
>Please let us know when this is in the KC Star. 
>You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
>Grant
>
>--- In 
><mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com, 
>ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Yeah, the KC Star was involved. I still have
> > a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot
> > of press all over the world over this one.
> > You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot
> > of places who are posting the news.
> >
> > Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon newscast.
> > Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
> >
> > Jen
> >
> > At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
> > >Tim Kristl
> > >
> > >
> > >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
> > >
> > >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any member
> > >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who has found a comet. This is a very
> > >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
> > >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
> > >
> > >Tom J Martinez
> > >_<<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http:// 
> tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_
> > >(<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: ICSTARS
> > > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> > > (mailto:comments@...) >
> > > >To:
> > > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_
> > > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> > > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> > > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >While watching the page of observations and
> > > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> > > >That's because it went somewhere else.
> > > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> > > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> > > >
> > > >_<<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K1 
> 2/K12>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12
> > > 
> C44.html_><http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
> > >(<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K 
> 12C44.html>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> > > >
> > > >Clear skies,
> > > >jen
> > > >
> > > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Awesome!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Cindy
> > > >>
> > > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> > > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> > >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi guys!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > > >> > it is a new discovery.
> > > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday 
> night until the moon spoiled the
> > > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sho 
> wobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>
> > >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showo 
> bsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh 
> owobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> > > 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>
> > >
> > >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showo 
> bsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sho 
> wobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>
> > >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showo 
> bsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh 
> owobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> > > 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>
> > >
> > >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showo 
> bsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image 
> of it; as he was so wide field
> > > >> > with the search imaging.
> > > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > 
> <_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>
> > >
> > >(<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery 
> .gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > > >_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discov 
> ery.g>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g
> > > 
> if_><http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>
> > > 
> (<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The equipment he was using was:
> > > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to 
> StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > > >> > David Levy)
> > > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > > >> > and more directly.
> > > >> > A hyperstar
> > > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > > >> > before slewing.
> > > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > > >> > discovery for Fred!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Clear skies,
> > > >> > jen
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> > > >> >
> > > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Owner,
> > > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > TODAY(Beta) � Powered by Yahoo!
> > > >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> > > >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
> > > >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> > > >> > Privacy Policy
> > > >>
> > > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Jen Dudley Winter -
> > > >
> > > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > > >
> > > >Owner,
> > > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > > >
> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >
> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >
> > Owner,
> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Please let us know a place and time.
Celebration time indeed!

Gil & Kathy Machin
No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)


> RE:  Comet Fred
> 
> We have joked about comet Fred being his chance 
> for people to learn how to pronounce his name!
> and Bruenjes rhymes with "sponges"
> 
> Hey.  They all sorted out Hyakutake, right?
> 
> We're thinking of celebrating with Dinner in KC on Saturday night.
> Turns out that Saturday, Feb 18th was the date 
> Clyde Tombaugh (also hard to pronounce) discovered Pluto.
> That should be a fitting date to celebrate, eh?
> 
> Clera skies,
> jen

Scott,

It's been a long time since I used MMJB, but I don't
remember it being browser-dependent in any way. When
I installed it, I did a "Custom" install job and left
off all the bells and whistles (I just wanted it to
convert CD tracks to MP3). It would just stand alone,
having nothing to do with whatever browser was being
used. It may, however, have a lot to do with the OS...
I was still running Win98 when I last used it, and I
never installed it on my new (WinXP) system. I tried
it just now, and couldn't get it to work at all. But
there are a lot of free programs out there that will
convert CD files to MP3, WAV, or whatever you like.

Sorry no help,

-John C


--- Scott Kranz wrote:
> 
> Hey John! 
> 
> I used MusicMatch Jukebox up to a few years ago. The
> version I was using (I don't remember now) didn't work
> with anything above Internet Explorer 6.0. Is that still
> the case, or do the newer versions work with IE 7 or IE 8? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> --- John Cravens wrote:
> 
> David, 
> 
> I have been using MusicMatch JukeBox to do that for years. 
> I converted my whole library of CD music to MP3 format. 
> You can save it to wherever you like (any folder of your 
> choice). Once converted, there's no reason you can't copy 
> it to an SD chip. I haven't tried converting any directly 
> to an SD chip, but have copied hundreds to my MP3 player. 
> I have Version 7, but several versions can be found at: 
> 
> http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html 
> 
> E-mail me privately for details, if necessary (serial 
> numbers, how NOT to let it get online, etc.). ;) 
> 
> -John C 
> 
> --- David Young wrote: 
> > 
> > Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........ 
> > any ideas on how to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 
> > format? There's a bunch of software for converting 
> > things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip 
> > in mp3. 
> > 
> 

Tom,

   The article is online now.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/13/3427820/astronomy-buff-has-a-comet-to.html

jen

At 05:27 PM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>I just talked to the KC Star writer who is 
>working on the article.�  Please let me know 
>when the article in online.�  I don't get the 
>paper at home, so if someone could save the 
>paper version for the ASKC History Books, that 
>would be great.�  I'm leaving for Colorado 
>tomorrow, but I'll keep in touch about this via 
>the internet.�  I have archived the articles 
>from Fred's Blog and the Univese Today.
>
>�
>Tom J Martinez
><http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
> >________________________________
> > From: mllrgrnt <<mailto:mllrgrnt%40yahoo.com>mllrgrnt@...>
> >To: <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:19 PM
> >Subject: [ASKC] Re: COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) - on FOX 4
> >
> >
> >�
> >Jen,
> >
> >Please let us know when this is in the KC 
> Star. You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
> >Grant
> >
> >--- In 
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com, 
> ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tim,
> >>
> >> Yeah, the KC Star was involved. I still have
> >> a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot
> >> of press all over the world over this one.
> >> You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot
> >> of places who are posting the news.
> >>
> >> Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon newscast.
> >> Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
> >>
> >> Jen
> >>
> >> At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
> >> >Tim Kristl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >> ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
> >> >
> >> >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any member
> >> >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who 
> has found a comet. This is a very
> >> >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
> >> >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
> >> >
> >> >Tom J Martinez
> >> >_<<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http:/ 
> /tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_
> >> >(<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
> >> >
> >> > >________________________________
> >> > > From: ICSTARS
> >> > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> >> > (mailto:comments@...) >
> >> > >To:
> >> > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_
> >> > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> >> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> >> > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >While watching the page of observations and
> >> > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> >> > >That's because it went somewhere else.
> >> > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> >> > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> >> > >
> >> > >_<<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K 
> 12/K12>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12
> >> > 
> C44.html_><http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
> >> >(<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/ 
> K12C44.html>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> >> > >
> >> > >Clear skies,
> >> > >jen
> >> > >
> >> > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Awesome!!!
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thanks,
> >> > >>Cindy
> >> > >>
> >> > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> >> > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> >> >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Hi guys!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> >> > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> >> > >> > it is a new discovery.
> >> > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday 
> night until the moon spoiled the
> >> > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> >> > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> >> > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> >> > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> >> > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh 
> owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show 
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s 
> howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> >> > 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_ 
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show 
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh 
> owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show 
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s 
> howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> >> > 
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_ 
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show 
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> >> > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper 
> image of it; as he was so wide field
> >> > >> > with the search imaging.
> >> > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > 
> <_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discover 
> y.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >> > >_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Disco 
> very.g>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g
> >> > 
> if_><http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_ 
>
> >> > 
> (<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The equipment he was using was:
> >> > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to 
> StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> >> > >> > David Levy)
> >> > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> >> > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> >> > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> >> > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> >> > >> > and more directly.
> >> > >> > A hyperstar
> >> > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> >> > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> >> > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> >> > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> >> > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading 
> instead of waiting to download
> >> > >> > before slewing.
> >> > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> >> > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> >> > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> >> > >> > discovery for Fred!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Clear skies,
> >> > >> > jen
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Owner,
> >> > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > TODAY(Beta) � Powered by Yahoo!
> >> > >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> >> > >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
> >> > >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> >> > >> > Privacy Policy
> >> > >>
> >> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Jen Dudley Winter -
> >> > >
> >> > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >> > >
> >> > >Owner,
> >> > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >> > >
> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Jen Dudley Winter -
> >>
> >> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >>
> >> Owner,
> >> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Nice write up.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ICSTARS" <comments@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: COMET


Tom,

   The article is online now.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/13/3427820/astronomy-buff-has-a-comet-to.html

jen

At 05:27 PM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>
>
>I just talked to the KC Star writer who is
>working on the article.�  Please let me know
>when the article in online.�  I don't get the
>paper at home, so if someone could save the
>paper version for the ASKC History Books, that
>would be great.�  I'm leaving for Colorado
>tomorrow, but I'll keep in touch about this via
>the internet.�  I have archived the articles
>from Fred's Blog and the Univese Today.
>
>�
>Tom J Martinez
><http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
> >________________________________
> > From: mllrgrnt <<mailto:mllrgrnt%40yahoo.com>mllrgrnt@...>
> >To: <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:19 PM
> >Subject: [ASKC] Re: COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) - on FOX 4
> >
> >
> >�
> >Jen,
> >
> >Please let us know when this is in the KC
> Star. You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
> >Grant
> >
> >--- In
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com,
> ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tim,
> >>
> >> Yeah, the KC Star was involved. I still have
> >> a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot
> >> of press all over the world over this one.
> >> You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot
> >> of places who are posting the news.
> >>
> >> Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon 
> >> newscast.
> >> Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
> >>
> >> Jen
> >>
> >> At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
> >> >Tim Kristl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >> ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
> >> >
> >> >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any 
> >> >member
> >> >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who
> has found a comet. This is a very
> >> >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
> >> >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
> >> >
> >> >Tom J Martinez
> >> >_<<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http:/
> /tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_
> >> >(<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
> >> >
> >> > >________________________________
> >> > > From: ICSTARS
> >> > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> >> > (mailto:comments@...) >
> >> > >To:
> >> > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_
> >> > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> >> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> >> > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >While watching the page of observations and
> >> > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> >> > >That's because it went somewhere else.
> >> > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> >> > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> >> > >
> >> > >_<<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K
> 12/K12>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12
> >> >
> C44.html_><http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
> >> >(<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/
> K12C44.html>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> >> > >
> >> > >Clear skies,
> >> > >jen
> >> > >
> >> > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Awesome!!!
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thanks,
> >> > >>Cindy
> >> > >>
> >> > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> >> > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> >> >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Hi guys!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> >> > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even 
> >> > >> > think
> >> > >> > it is a new discovery.
> >> > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday
> night until the moon spoiled the
> >> > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> >> > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> >> > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and 
> >> > >> > has
> >> > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> >> > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh
> owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_
>
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s
> howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> >> >
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh
> owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_
>
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s
> howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> >> >
> orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_><http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> >> > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper
> image of it; as he was so wide field
> >> > >> > with the search imaging.
> >> > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> >
> <_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_
>
> >> >
> >> >(<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discover
> y.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >> > >_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Disco
> very.g>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g
> >> >
> if_><http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_
>
> >> >
> (<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The equipment he was using was:
> >> > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to
> StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> >> > >> > David Levy)
> >> > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated 
> >> > >> > a
> >> > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> >> > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> >> > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew 
> >> > >> > faster
> >> > >> > and more directly.
> >> > >> > A hyperstar
> >> > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> >> > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to 
> >> > >> > scan;
> >> > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> >> > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he 
> >> > >> > could
> >> > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading
> instead of waiting to download
> >> > >> > before slewing.
> >> > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> >> > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was 
> >> > >> > one
> >> > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> >> > >> > discovery for Fred!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Clear skies,
> >> > >> > jen
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Owner,
> >> > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > TODAY(Beta) . Powered by Yahoo!
> >> > >> > Turn fillets into a fast and delicious dinner
> >> > >> > A "Food Network Star" chef's Valentine's
> >> > >> salmon dish adds fun and flavor and cuts the calories.
> >> > >> > Privacy Policy
> >> > >>
> >> > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Jen Dudley Winter -
> >> > >
> >> > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >> > >
> >> > >Owner,
> >> > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >> > >
> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Jen Dudley Winter -
> >>
> >> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> >>
> >> Owner,
> >> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> >> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> >> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> >> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Jen Dudley Winter -

NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador

Owner,
ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org



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Yahoo! Groups Links

Fred's story is on the front page of this mornings' KC Star - continues on
page 6 - kudos!
Mike

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Jim Ketchum <suenjim@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Nice write up.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ICSTARS" <comments@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: COMET
>
> Tom,
>
> The article is online now.
>
> http://www.kansascity.com/2012/02/13/3427820/astronomy-buff-has-a-comet-to.html
>
> jen
>
> At 05:27 PM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >I just talked to the KC Star writer who is
> >working on the article.� Please let me know
> >when the article in online.� I don't get the
> >paper at home, so if someone could save the
> >paper version for the ASKC History Books, that
> >would be great.� I'm leaving for Colorado
> >tomorrow, but I'll keep in touch about this via
> >the internet.� I have archived the articles
> >from Fred's Blog and the Univese Today.
> >
> >�
> >Tom J Martinez
> ><http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: mllrgrnt <<mailto:mllrgrnt%40yahoo.com>mllrgrnt@yahoo.com>
> > >To: <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 4:19 PM
> > >Subject: [ASKC] Re: COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES) - on FOX 4
> > >
> > >
> > >�
> > >Jen,
> > >
> > >Please let us know when this is in the KC
> > Star. You should let the Warrensburg Daily Star Journal know also.
> > >Grant
> > >
> > >--- In
> > <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>ASKC@yahoogroups.com,
> > ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Tim,
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, the KC Star was involved. I still have
> > >> a couple friends up there. Fred is getting a lot
> > >> of press all over the world over this one.
> > >> You can now google "Comet Bruenjes" and see a lot
> > >> of places who are posting the news.
> > >>
> > >> Fox 4 is coming out today to try and get it in their afternoon
> > >> newscast.
> > >> Let's hope they can make it up the long drive in the snow!
> > >>
> > >> Jen
> > >>
> > >> At 03:00 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >So, should someone be calling the Star to put an article in?
> > >> >Tim Kristl
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >In a message dated 2/12/2012 6:46:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > >> ><mailto:zenitrammot%40yahoo.com>zenitrammot@... writes:
> > >> >
> > >> >I think this is a first for any ASKC member. I don't know of any
> > >> >member
> > >> >in the 80 some years of ASKC history who
> > has found a comet. This is a very
> > >> >big deal folks! With all the automated searches now being done, it is
> > >> >getting harder and harder for an individual to find a comet.
> > >> >
> > >> >Tom J Martinez
> > >> >_<<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http:/
> > /tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_>http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/_
> > >> >(<http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/>
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/)
> > >> >
> > >> > >________________________________
> > >> > > From: ICSTARS
> > >> > <<mailto:_comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> > >> > (mailto:comments@...) >
> > >> > >To:
> > >> > <mailto:_ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>_ASKC@yahoogroups.com_
> > >> > (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com)
> > >> > >Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:43 PM
> > >> > >Subject: [ASKC] COMET C/2012 C2 (BRUENJES)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >While watching the page of observations and
> > >> > >orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> > >> > >That's because it went somewhere else.
> > >> > >The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2
> > >> > >(Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >_<<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K
> > 12/K12>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12
> > >> >
> > C44.html_><http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_>
> http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html_
> > >> >(<http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/
> > K12C44.html>http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Clear skies,
> > >> > >jen
> > >> > >
> > >> > >At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>Awesome!!!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>Thanks,
> > >> > >>Cindy
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS
> > >> > >><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>_comments@..._
> > >> >(mailto:comments@...) > wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > Hi guys!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > >> > >> > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even
> > >> > >> > think
> > >> > >> > it is a new discovery.
> > >> > >> > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > He was open and comet hunting Friday
> > night until the moon spoiled the
> > >> > >> > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > >> > >> > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > >> > >> > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far
> and
> > >> > >> > has
> > >> > >> > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > >> > >> > You can see these follow ups at:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh
> > owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_
> >
> > >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> > obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s
> > howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> > >> >
> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_><
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y_
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> > obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y)
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> ><_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/sh
> > owobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_
> >
> > >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> > obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > >> > >_<<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/s
> > howobs>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobs
> > >> >
> > orbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_><
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y_
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >(<http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/show
> > obsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>
> http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y)
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > >> > >> > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper
> > image of it; as he was so wide field
> > >> > >> > with the search imaging.
> > >> > >> > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery
> images.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > <_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >(<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discover
> > y.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > >> > >_<<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Disco
> > very.g>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.g
> > >> >
> > if_><http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_>
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif_
> >
> > >> >
> > (<http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>
> http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif)
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > The equipment he was using was:
> > >> > >> > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to
> > StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > >> > >> > David Levy)
> > >> > >> > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred
> fabricated
> > >> > >> > a
> > >> > >> > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > >> > >> > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > >> > >> > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew
> > >> > >> > faster
> > >> > >> > and more directly.
> > >> > >> > A hyperstar
> > >> > >> > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > >> > >> > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to
> > >> > >> > scan;
> > >> > >> > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > >> > >> > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he
> > >> > >> > could
> > >> > >> > slew WHILE the camera was downloading
> > instead of waiting to download
> > >> > >> > before slewing.
> > >> > >> > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > >> > >> > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet
> was
> > >> > >> > one
> > >> > >> > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > >> > >> > discovery for Fred!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Clear skies,
> > >> > >> > jen
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Jen Dudley Winter -
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Owner,
> > >> > >> > ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > >> > >> > Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > >> > >> > Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > >> > >> > StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > >> > >> >
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> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > TODAY(Beta) . Powered by Yahoo!
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Owner,
> > >> > >ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > >> > >Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > >> > >Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > >> > >StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Jen Dudley Winter -
> > >>
> > >> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
> > >>
> > >> Owner,
> > >> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> > >> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> > >> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> > >> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
> > >>
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>
> Jen Dudley Winter -
>
> NASA / JPL Solar System Ambassador
>
> Owner,
> ICSTARS.COM - www.ICSTARS.com
> Daystar Filters - www.DayStarFilters.com
> Astronomical Tours - www.AstronomicalTours.net
> StarGarden Foundation - www.StarGardenFoundation.org
>
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Yea, we (that is, my darling bride) searched the files we have around 
early 2006 and came up with nothing.

Jason.

On 13-Feb-12 10:19, Joseph Wright wrote:
> If we have the paperwork,, Celestron will replace the set for $25. The
> in service date at the Warko was June 2006. I already have the RA and
> shipping labels, but time is running out. No one seems to know where
> they came from.
>
> Joe
>
>> My 100mm Binos were out of alignment a couple of years back.I called s
>> to get an RA#.It took a couple of weeks or for the repair. The amount
>> of 80.00 comes to mind. They are great now.
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>, Joseph
>> Wright<jos.wright@...>  wrote:
>>> Any one remember the origins of the Celestron 25x100 binocular at
>> the Warko?
>>> They are out of alignment and Celestron will replace them if purchased
>>> after 2005 for only $25!
>>>
>>> I didn't get them.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I have multiple computers. They all are running XP. The one with IE 6 plays MMJB perfectly with no problems. The others use to play MMJB, but as soon as I updated to IE 7, when I try to start MMJB, nothing happens. 



I've used other programs to convert CD's to MP3's, but I haven't found a player that will record directly from "mixer in" or "system in". I use that feature a lot. Basically, what ever goes through my sound card, I can capture. 



thanks! 

-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "skygazer1956" <John.Cravens@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:30:56 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: off topic again 

  




Scott, 

It's been a long time since I used MMJB, but I don't 
remember it being browser-dependent in any way. When 
I installed it, I did a "Custom" install job and left 
off all the bells and whistles (I just wanted it to 
convert CD tracks to MP3). It would just stand alone, 
having nothing to do with whatever browser was being 
used. It may, however, have a lot to do with the OS... 
I was still running Win98 when I last used it, and I 
never installed it on my new (WinXP) system. I tried 
it just now, and couldn't get it to work at all. But 
there are a lot of free programs out there that will 
convert CD files to MP3, WAV, or whatever you like. 

Sorry no help, 

-John C 

--- Scott Kranz wrote: 
> 
> Hey John! 
> 
> I used MusicMatch Jukebox up to a few years ago. The 
> version I was using (I don't remember now) didn't work 
> with anything above Internet Explorer 6.0. Is that still 
> the case, or do the newer versions work with IE 7 or IE 8? 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> --- John Cravens wrote: 
> 
> David, 
> 
> I have been using MusicMatch JukeBox to do that for years. 
> I converted my whole library of CD music to MP3 format. 
> You can save it to wherever you like (any folder of your 
> choice). Once converted, there's no reason you can't copy 
> it to an SD chip. I haven't tried converting any directly 
> to an SD chip, but have copied hundreds to my MP3 player. 
> I have Version 7, but several versions can be found at: 
> 
> http://www.oldversion.com/MusicMatch-Jukebox.html 
> 
> E-mail me privately for details, if necessary (serial 
> numbers, how NOT to let it get online, etc.). ;) 
> 
> -John C 
> 
> --- David Young wrote: 
> > 
> > Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........ 
> > any ideas on how to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 
> > format? There's a bunch of software for converting 
> > things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip 
> > in mp3. 
> > 
> 




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Jim - I'd like to have access to the internet at DSS.
How can I get this started and what is the cost?
Is it possible to have it this weekend?
Thanks!  Dan Johnson

Hey, Dan. The pro rated cost for the rest of the year would be $36. If you 
get a check in the mail (and I'll take your word for it), let me know and 
I'll give you the code. Glad to have you aboard.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "danj" <gdj102356@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: [ASKC] hey Jim Ketchem


> Jim - I'd like to have access to the internet at DSS.
> How can I get this started and what is the cost?
> Is it possible to have it this weekend?
> Thanks!  Dan Johnson
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Hope springs eternal.

 

The Louisburg librarian has reserved a night at Powell for this June and
she'd like to have a list of astronomy related books that we could recommend
to her for her reading list she'll be handing out to the folks who sign up
for the "Louisburg Library Night at Powell."

 

Personally, I think this is a great gig.  So, if anyone who can provide me
with a title, author, fiction or non-fiction and brief synopsis of the book,
I'll compile a list to forward to her.

 

My own contribution to the list is "Coming of Age in the Milky Way" by
Timothy Ferris.  "Seeing in the Dark" by Timothy Ferris also is a good
choice, in my not so humble opinion.

 

So, any suggestions out there?  If I could get them in the next week or so,
that would be a big help.  How many times do we get an opportunity like
this?

 

Rick Henderson

 



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Rick, my recommendations to add to the reading list;

1. Ken Croswell, "Alchemy of the Heavens", non-fiction. A facinating and beautifully explained story of the discovery of the nature of our Milky Way galaxy and the lives of stars. A cozy and elegant book you just want to curl up with on a cold winter's night!

2. Guy Consolmagno, "Turn Left at Orion", non-fiction.  A lovely and well illustrated book on one hundred of the finest objects for small telescopes. How to find them, and what you are seeing. Perfect for teen and not-so-teen (heh-heh!) new stargazers!

Just my 2 cents.

dave H.

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Hi Dave,

 

Thanks for a very good bargain "2 cents worth."  They sound like excellent
suggestions and I'll pass them on.

 

Rick

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Hudgins
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:28 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Louisburg Library Request

 

  

Rick, my recommendations to add to the reading list;

1. Ken Croswell, "Alchemy of the Heavens", non-fiction. A facinating and
beautifully explained story of the discovery of the nature of our Milky Way
galaxy and the lives of stars. A cozy and elegant book you just want to curl
up with on a cold winter's night!

2. Guy Consolmagno, "Turn Left at Orion", non-fiction. A lovely and well
illustrated book on one hundred of the finest objects for small telescopes.
How to find them, and what you are seeing. Perfect for teen and not-so-teen
(heh-heh!) new stargazers!

Just my 2 cents.

dave H.

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Rick,

IMO-Pretty much anything by Terence Dickinson, especially NIGHTWATCH, 4th ed. is great for beginners.  BACKYARD ASTRONOMER'S GUIDE, 3rd ed.
 
SECRETS OF THE NIGHT SKY, by Bob Berman is good, but may be out of print.  
STARLIGHT NIGHTS, by Leslie Peltier.

And tell them to subscribe to Astronomy and/or Sky&Telescope magazines.

Grant

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hope springs eternal.
> 
>  
> 
> The Louisburg librarian has reserved a night at Powell for this June and
> she'd like to have a list of astronomy related books that we could recommend
> to her for her reading list she'll be handing out to the folks who sign up
> for the "Louisburg Library Night at Powell."
> 
>  
> 
> Personally, I think this is a great gig.  So, if anyone who can provide me
> with a title, author, fiction or non-fiction and brief synopsis of the book,
> I'll compile a list to forward to her.
> 
>  
> 
> My own contribution to the list is "Coming of Age in the Milky Way" by
> Timothy Ferris.  "Seeing in the Dark" by Timothy Ferris also is a good
> choice, in my not so humble opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> So, any suggestions out there?  If I could get them in the next week or so,
> that would be a big help.  How many times do we get an opportunity like
> this?
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Rick..Seeing and Believing .. The story of the telescope, or how we found our place in the Universe  by Richard Panek.    Pete

Grant,

 

Thanks for the titles, plus thanks for the magazine ideas.  If nothing else,
maybe the library would subscribe.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mllrgrnt
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:27 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Louisburg Library Request

 

  

Rick,

IMO-Pretty much anything by Terence Dickinson, especially NIGHTWATCH, 4th
ed. is great for beginners. BACKYARD ASTRONOMER'S GUIDE, 3rd ed.

SECRETS OF THE NIGHT SKY, by Bob Berman is good, but may be out of print. 
STARLIGHT NIGHTS, by Leslie Peltier.

And tell them to subscribe to Astronomy and/or Sky&Telescope magazines.

Grant

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hope springs eternal.
> 
> 
> 
> The Louisburg librarian has reserved a night at Powell for this June and
> she'd like to have a list of astronomy related books that we could
recommend
> to her for her reading list she'll be handing out to the folks who sign up
> for the "Louisburg Library Night at Powell."
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I think this is a great gig. So, if anyone who can provide me
> with a title, author, fiction or non-fiction and brief synopsis of the
book,
> I'll compile a list to forward to her.
> 
> 
> 
> My own contribution to the list is "Coming of Age in the Milky Way" by
> Timothy Ferris. "Seeing in the Dark" by Timothy Ferris also is a good
> choice, in my not so humble opinion.
> 
> 
> 
> So, any suggestions out there? If I could get them in the next week or so,
> that would be a big help. How many times do we get an opportunity like
> this?
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Thanks, Pete.  Good suggestion and I'll put it on the list.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
pjafferis
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:45 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] books

 

  

Rick..Seeing and Believing .. The story of the telescope, or how we found
our place in the Universe by Richard Panek. Pete





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So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks promising. 



Anybody going down? 



-Scott 

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maybe I spoke too soon... 



Now on Accuweather they are saying rain and some snow tonight and partly cloudy tomorrow night. The Clear Sky Clock shows clear ing after midnight tomorrow night. 


If you go out, be sure to check the field before driving out. 



I <might> be there. 



-Scott 


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From: "s kranz1" <s.kranz1@...> 
To: "!_askc" <askc@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:36:02 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] February New Moon weekend DSS trip 

  






So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks promising. 

Anybody going down? 

-Scott 

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If the weather cooperates, I may go to the dss saturday. I just got my lx200 10" tube I picked up a few months ago on a eq mount this week and would like to try it out. I may take my dob too, just in case I get frustrated with the eq mount and the smaller fov. 

Sent from my iPhone

What's the address for the DSS? I lost the info for it.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Feb 17, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Dale Cameron <dale.cameron@...> wrote:

> If the weather cooperates, I may go to the dss saturday. I just got my lx200 10" tube I picked up a few months ago on a eq mount this week and would like to try it out. I may take my dob too, just in case I get frustrated with the eq mount and the smaller fov. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 


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Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates. 
Steve

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
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> 
> 
> 
> So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks promising. 
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody going down? 
> 
> 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
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>

Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been doing
tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).

Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
bags. Hmmmm.

The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
Midway by  $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
travel time each way.
Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you want
to play a bit on your own.

Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?


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Chicago is just a days drive from KC.  With rental car and airfare difference from driving, we could have t-bone room service for three days and have enough left to buy a fine eyepiece from a vendor.  I think we will drive, huh?  And when we get into my car we don't have to take my shoes off and be "puffed."

On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been doing
> tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> 
> Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> bags. Hmmmm.
> 
> The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> Midway by  $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> travel time each way.
> Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you want
> to play a bit on your own.
> 
> Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

We lived in Chicago for 6 years and made the drive many time. Part of the
route involved a section of highway lovingly referred to as "the Ho Chi Min
trail", a section of beat up US 69 before they finished the interstate. I
don't like driving all that much but driving is of course a considerable
savings over the airfare and shuttle costs. Its more about time than the
money. Just because I'll squeeze a nickel until the indian is riding the
buffalo doesn't mean I'm keen on driving:-) Then again its nice to have a
car at the ready since we know a bunch of interesting places around the
Chicago area. Sometime when you're in the Chicago area you should visit a
little tourist trap town called Long Grove. The Museum of Science and
Industry south of the main museum complex is a great place. I noticed they
didn't have a visit to the Shed on the list of activities either.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 AM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> Chicago is just a days drive from KC.  With rental car and airfare
> difference from driving, we could have t-bone room service for three days
> and have enough left to buy a fine eyepiece from a vendor.  I think we will
> drive, huh?  And when we get into my car we don't have to take my shoes off
> and be "puffed."
>
> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> > Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
> doing
> > tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> > registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> >
> > Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> > bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> > bags. Hmmmm.
> >
> > The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> > shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> > Midway by  $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> > travel time each way.
> > Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
> want
> > to play a bit on your own.
> >
> > Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> >
> >
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One or more of you have recently requested ASKC's Federal Identification 
number.

I may have provided the incorrect information.

Please contact me for a correction.

Thanks

Jason.

I use "Exact Audio Copy", or EAC, http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

Jason.

On 12-Feb-12 09:14, David Young wrote:
> Ok, now that we a really getting off topic........any ideas on how
> to convert tracks from a cd to mp3 format? There's a bunch of software for
> converting things but I haven't found one to save to an sd chip in mp3.
>
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Anywhere along Dempster or Main streets in Skokie, pick out a nice restaurant and enjoy the food.  Lots of ethnic, especially kosher.

On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:02 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> We lived in Chicago for 6 years and made the drive many time. Part of the
> route involved a section of highway lovingly referred to as "the Ho Chi Min
> trail", a section of beat up US 69 before they finished the interstate. I
> don't like driving all that much but driving is of course a considerable
> savings over the airfare and shuttle costs. Its more about time than the
> money. Just because I'll squeeze a nickel until the indian is riding the
> buffalo doesn't mean I'm keen on driving:-) Then again its nice to have a
> car at the ready since we know a bunch of interesting places around the
> Chicago area. Sometime when you're in the Chicago area you should visit a
> little tourist trap town called Long Grove. The Museum of Science and
> Industry south of the main museum complex is a great place. I noticed they
> didn't have a visit to the Shed on the list of activities either.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 AM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
> 
>> Chicago is just a days drive from KC.  With rental car and airfare
>> difference from driving, we could have t-bone room service for three days
>> and have enough left to buy a fine eyepiece from a vendor.  I think we will
>> drive, huh?  And when we get into my car we don't have to take my shoes off
>> and be "puffed."
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
>> doing
>>> tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
>>> registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
>>> 
>>> Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
>>> bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
>>> bags. Hmmmm.
>>> 
>>> The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
>>> shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
>>> Midway by  $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
>>> travel time each way.
>>> Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
>> want
>>> to play a bit on your own.
>>> 
>>> Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Lots of good German and Itallian in Chicago. In fact lots of good everykind
of food in Chicago. That's where I swelled up:-) I weighed 165 pounds when
we moved there.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM, george allen <geonjod@earthlink.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Anywhere along Dempster or Main streets in Skokie, pick out a nice
> restaurant and enjoy the food. Lots of ethnic, especially kosher.
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:02 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> > We lived in Chicago for 6 years and made the drive many time. Part of the
> > route involved a section of highway lovingly referred to as "the Ho Chi
> Min
> > trail", a section of beat up US 69 before they finished the interstate. I
> > don't like driving all that much but driving is of course a considerable
> > savings over the airfare and shuttle costs. Its more about time than the
> > money. Just because I'll squeeze a nickel until the indian is riding the
> > buffalo doesn't mean I'm keen on driving:-) Then again its nice to have a
> > car at the ready since we know a bunch of interesting places around the
> > Chicago area. Sometime when you're in the Chicago area you should visit a
> > little tourist trap town called Long Grove. The Museum of Science and
> > Industry south of the main museum complex is a great place. I noticed
> they
> > didn't have a visit to the Shed on the list of activities either.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 AM, george allen <geonjod@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Chicago is just a days drive from KC. With rental car and airfare
> >> difference from driving, we could have t-bone room service for three
> days
> >> and have enough left to buy a fine eyepiece from a vendor. I think we
> will
> >> drive, huh? And when we get into my car we don't have to take my shoes
> off
> >> and be "puffed."
> >>
> >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
> >> doing
> >>> tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> >>> registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> >>>
> >>> Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25
> per
> >>> bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free
> checked
> >>> bags. Hmmmm.
> >>>
> >>> The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> >>> shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> >>> Midway by $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> >>> travel time each way.
> >>> Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
> >> want
> >>> to play a bit on your own.
> >>>
> >>> Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> >>>
> >>>
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Heh.  That area's mostly South Asian now.  Still plenty of good food, though.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
>
> Anywhere along Dempster or Main streets in Skokie, pick out a nice restaurant and enjoy the food.  Lots of ethnic, especially kosher.
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:02 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> 
> > We lived in Chicago for 6 years and made the drive many time. Part of the
> > route involved a section of highway lovingly referred to as "the Ho Chi Min
> > trail", a section of beat up US 69 before they finished the interstate. I
> > don't like driving all that much but driving is of course a considerable
> > savings over the airfare and shuttle costs. Its more about time than the
> > money. Just because I'll squeeze a nickel until the indian is riding the
> > buffalo doesn't mean I'm keen on driving:-) Then again its nice to have a
> > car at the ready since we know a bunch of interesting places around the
> > Chicago area. Sometime when you're in the Chicago area you should visit a
> > little tourist trap town called Long Grove. The Museum of Science and
> > Industry south of the main museum complex is a great place. I noticed they
> > didn't have a visit to the Shed on the list of activities either.
> > 
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:11 AM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
> > 
> >> Chicago is just a days drive from KC.  With rental car and airfare
> >> difference from driving, we could have t-bone room service for three days
> >> and have enough left to buy a fine eyepiece from a vendor.  I think we will
> >> drive, huh?  And when we get into my car we don't have to take my shoes off
> >> and be "puffed."
> >> 
> >> On Feb 17, 2012, at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
> >> doing
> >>> tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> >>> registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> >>> 
> >>> Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> >>> bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> >>> bags. Hmmmm.
> >>> 
> >>> The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> >>> shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> >>> Midway by  $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> >>> travel time each way.
> >>> Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
> >> want
> >>> to play a bit on your own.
> >>> 
> >>> Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> > 
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I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.

By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up, but call me "sucker".

By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.

New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.

I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.

Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly dark.

I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.

Highlights for the night:
- at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
- hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm logging it as a "definite maybe".
- observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was using 485x.
- observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma, brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still watching this one?

The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.

It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......

-scott


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates. 
> Steve
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks promising. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anybody going down? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Scott 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

We may go David, but if we do we'll drive. We'll wait and see how bad the
U.S. Government and the oil companies screw us.

Gary

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been doing
> tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
>
> Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> bags. Hmmmm.
>
> The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> Midway by $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> travel time each way.
> Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you want
> to play a bit on your own.
>
> Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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Hi all,

I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.

If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.

Thanks.

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
To: askc_questions@...
Subject: Mirror grinding


 Hi:
 My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
 I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?

 I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had the  coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye solution.

 I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were badly  configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to help me  regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?

 Any information would be helpful.

I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125" which I believe is an F/4.
I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.

 Thank you

 Larry Morris
 816-985-2834 cell

Scott,

 

Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving
themselves.  I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.

 

Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get
out.  I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
called Vicarious Astronomy!

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stripe1966
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip

 

  

I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.

By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up,
but call me "sucker".

By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.

New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from
the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.

I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got
up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The
temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.

Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became
rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
dark.

I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.

Highlights for the night:
- at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
- hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I
think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm
logging it as a "definite maybe".
- observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could
be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself
into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked
the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
using 485x.
- observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and
is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma,
brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
watching this one?

The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.

It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......

-scott

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates.

> Steve
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
promising. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anybody going down? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Scott 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





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We've decided to drive as well. Even if we take the tour bus to most of the
side trips we'll have the freedom to make out own little side trips if we
want. We may extend the trip a day before or after to accomidate those
little side trips. I can't pass up a trip to Chicago without a visit to the
Museum of Science and Industry and I'll bet Marcia would really like to
take a side trip over to Long Grove.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...> wrote:

> We may go David, but if we do we'll drive. We'll wait and see how bad the
> U.S. Government and the oil companies screw us.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
> doing
> > tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> > registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> >
> > Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> > bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> > bags. Hmmmm.
> >
> > The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> > shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> > Midway by $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> > travel time each way.
> > Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
> want
> > to play a bit on your own.
> >
> > Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Clear skies,
>
> Gary Pittman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
>


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David, or anyone,

Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the pond?

If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
-Scott

Scott,

 

Did you notice any 30-06 sized holes in or arrows sticking out of the REB
building?

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stripe1966
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:00 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Deer licks at the DSS

 

  

David, or anyone,

Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the
pond?

If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
-Scott





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Are people really shooting the buildings?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> Did you notice any 30-06 sized holes in or arrows sticking out of the REB
> building?
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> From: ASKC@...m [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:00 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Deer licks at the DSS
> 
> David, or anyone,
> 
> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the
> pond?
> 
> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> -Scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> 
> If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...] 
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: askc_questions@...
> Subject: Mirror grinding
> 
> 
>  Hi:
>  My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
>  I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> 
>  I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had the  coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye solution.
> 
>  I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were badly  configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to help me  regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> 
>  Any information would be helpful.
> 
> I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125" which I believe is an F/4.
> I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> 
>  Thank you
> 
>  Larry Morris
>  816-985-2834 cell
>

Brian,

 

I was kidding.  I hope, anyway.

 

Scott didn't say anything about holes in the building.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@...m [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Davidson
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:29 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Deer licks at the DSS

 

  

Are people really shooting the buildings?

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:07 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@... <mailto:rhenderson1%40kc.rr.com> > wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> Did you notice any 30-06 sized holes in or arrows sticking out of the REB
> building?
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:00 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [ASKC] Deer licks at the DSS
> 
> David, or anyone,
> 
> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the
> pond?
> 
> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> -Scott
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I saw some guys buying salt blocks at the local farm store recently and it looked funny to me.  They had coveralls on and ball caps, but they each had 4 feet.  
Well, little feet anyway, like hooves.  


-----Original Message-----
>From: stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...>
>Sent: Feb 19, 2012 2:00 PM
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ASKC] Deer licks at the DSS
>
>David, or anyone,
>
>Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the pond?
>
>If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
>-Scott
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I think he means two 8" mirrors

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
>
> Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> > 
> > If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Rick Henderson
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 9lives@ [mailto:9lives@] 
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> > To: askc_questions@
> > Subject: Mirror grinding
> > 
> > 
> >  Hi:
> >  My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> >  I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> > 
> >  I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had the  coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye solution.
> > 
> >  I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were badly  configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to help me  regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> > 
> >  Any information would be helpful.
> > 
> > I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125" which I believe is an F/4.
> > I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> > Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> > 
> >  Thank you
> > 
> >  Larry Morris
> >  816-985-2834 cell
> >
>

Scott,

 

I just pasted what he sent me.  I even went back and checked to make sure
what I copied was what he sent.  It was.

 

Maybe he's a ladder salesman.

 

I'll email him to check the dimensions.  I didn't even think about the focal
length.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stripe1966
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:35 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question

 

  

Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I have
never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made mirror,
I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> 
> If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to him
(his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...] 
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: askc_questions@...
> Subject: Mirror grinding
> 
> 
> Hi:
> My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> 
> I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had the
coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
solution.
> 
> I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> 
> Any information would be helpful.
> 
> I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125" which
I believe is an F/4.
> I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Larry Morris
> 816-985-2834 cell
>





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I copied that he had two 8 inch mirrors.  What?  A 28 inch mirror???

Then I advised he join the ASKC and contact Bob Allen or Tom.

On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> 
> 
> I just pasted what he sent me.  I even went back and checked to make sure
> what I copied was what he sent.  It was.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe he's a ladder salesman.
> 
> 
> 
> I'll email him to check the dimensions.  I didn't even think about the focal
> length.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:35 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
> f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I have
> never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made mirror,
> I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
>> 
>> If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to him
> (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Rick Henderson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...] 
>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
>> To: askc_questions@...
>> Subject: Mirror grinding
>> 
>> 
>> Hi:
>> My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
>> I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
>> 
>> I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had the
> coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
> solution.
>> 
>> I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
> badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
> help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
>> 
>> Any information would be helpful.
>> 
>> I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125" which
> I believe is an F/4.
>> I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
>> Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Larry Morris
>> 816-985-2834 cell
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

I too read the message to say that he had two 8 inch mirrors.

Gary

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I copied that he had two 8 inch mirrors. What? A 28 inch mirror???
>
> Then I advised he join the ASKC and contact Bob Allen or Tom.
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > I just pasted what he sent me. I even went back and checked to make sure
> > what I copied was what he sent. It was.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe he's a ladder salesman.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll email him to check the dimensions. I didn't even think about the
> focal
> > length.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > stripe1966
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:35 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
> > f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
> > Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I
> have
> > never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made
> mirror,
> > I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> >>
> >> If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to
> him
> > (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Rick Henderson
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> >> To: askc_questions@...
> >> Subject: Mirror grinding
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi:
> >> My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> >> I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> >>
> >> I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had
> the
> > coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
> > solution.
> >>
> >> I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
> > badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
> > help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> >>
> >> Any information would be helpful.
> >>
> >> I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125"
> which
> > I believe is an F/4.
> >> I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> >> Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Larry Morris
> >> 816-985-2834 cell
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>  
>



-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Two 8" mirrors make a lot more sense than a 28 inch mirror, but I emailed
him anyway and will let everyone know once I hear back.

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Pittman
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:48 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question

I too read the message to say that he had two 8 inch mirrors.

Gary

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:29 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I copied that he had two 8 inch mirrors. What? A 28 inch mirror???
>
> Then I advised he join the ASKC and contact Bob Allen or Tom.
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > I just pasted what he sent me. I even went back and checked to make 
> > sure what I copied was what he sent. It was.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe he's a ladder salesman.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll email him to check the dimensions. I didn't even think about 
> > the
> focal
> > length.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of
> > stripe1966
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 2:35 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to 
> > be a f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick 
> > Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since 
> >> I
> have
> > never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made
> mirror,
> > I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> >>
> >> If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly 
> >> to
> him
> > (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Rick Henderson
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> >> To: askc_questions@...
> >> Subject: Mirror grinding
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi:
> >> My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> >> I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> >>
> >> I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that 
> >> had
> the
> > coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye 
> > solution.
> >>
> >> I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they 
> >> were
> > badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be 
> > willing to help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter
and I?
> >>
> >> Any information would be helpful.
> >>
> >> I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125"
> which
> > I believe is an F/4.
> >> I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> >> Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Larry Morris
> >> 816-985-2834 cell
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>  
>



--
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------



Yahoo! Groups Links

I think its two 8" mirrors.
On Feb 19, 2012 2:34 PM, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
> f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I
> have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made
> mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> >
> > If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to
> him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 9lives@... [mailto:9lives@...]
> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> > To: askc_questions@...
> > Subject: Mirror grinding
> >
> >
> > Hi:
> > My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> > I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> >
> > I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had
> the coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
> solution.
> >
> > I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
> badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
> help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> >
> > Any information would be helpful.
> >
> > I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125"
> which I believe is an F/4.
> > I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> > Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Larry Morris
> > 816-985-2834 cell
> >
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm thinking hunters. I may put my trail camera down there. I'll notify
members if I do.
On Feb 19, 2012 2:00 PM, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> David, or anyone,
>
> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the
> pond?
>
> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> -Scott
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

That does make more since for a f/7 mirror.....


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> I think its two 8" mirrors.
> On Feb 19, 2012 2:34 PM, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
> > f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I
> > have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a pre-made
> > mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> > >
> > > If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to
> > him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Rick Henderson
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 9lives@ [mailto:9lives@]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> > > To: askc_questions@
> > > Subject: Mirror grinding
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > > My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> > > I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> > >
> > > I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had
> > the coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
> > solution.
> > >
> > > I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
> > badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
> > help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> > >
> > > Any information would be helpful.
> > >
> > > I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125"
> > which I believe is an F/4.
> > > I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> > > Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Larry Morris
> > > 816-985-2834 cell
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and no, I don't hunt there. 

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
>
> David, or anyone,
> 
> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the pond?
> 
> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> -Scott
>

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
>
> That does make more since for a f/7 mirror.....

I acquired an 8" f7 years ago from Vic Winter through an estate sale. The mirror seemed to well figured.

I used it in a dobsonian style scope that I made and then eventually sold it.

That was a funny story in itself. A guy drove from over by Powell Gardens to Bonner to buy it for his wife for a birthday present. After he made the trek, he realized the car he was driving was too small to haul it. He gave me an extra $20 for gas if I would drive it to his place. About 2 months later I am at Powell, and here is my scope sitting there! It happened to be Melissa Kirk. I believe she moved to Arizona. 
Don't know if she still has it but it was a killer planetary and lunar scope with the f7 focal length... This must have been 20 years ago.

Rob Robinson

No problem. Just wanted to make sure it was the wildlife viewing and not the rifle viewing type.



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Gray" <earthdude123@...> wrote:
>
> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and no, I don't hunt there. 
> 
> Darrick
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@> wrote:
> >
> > David, or anyone,
> > 
> > Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of the pond?
> > 
> > If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> > -Scott
> >
>

Hi folks-

 

The Mid States Regional Astronomical League (MSRAL) conference
will happen June 1-3, 2012. Friday will be our Star-BQ dinner and
a special planetarium show at Union Station. Saturday will be a
full day of presentations and socializing with fellow amateur
astronomers concluding with our Banquet and Keynote speaker at
UMKC. Sunday may be a few workshops.

 

In addition to presentations from professional astronomers, we
will have a few presentations from amateur astronomers. 

 

If you have a special project you've completed, a really exciting
observation process you've developed, or have some cool
technology you've mastered, share it with your community of
astronomy enthusiasts at the MSRAL Conference.

 

We have a few slots for 20 minutes long or 45 minutes long for
presentations. If we do workshops on Sunday, they could be 1 hour
or 2 hours long.

 

If you would like to present, please send me a title and a brief
abstract for consideration and let me know if this would be a
presentation or a workshop.

 

We on the MSRAL committee look forward to you presenting and
participating in our exciting regional astronomy conference. 

 

--Eric Bogatin

Eric@...

Chair, 1012 MSRAL Conf, June 1-3, 2012

 

 

 



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Absolutely no problem. I was afraid we had some poachers. I'm not against
hunting at all but I am opposed to unrestircted hunting on that piece of
land. No sense encouraging bullet holes in our stuff :-)
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Gray <earthdude123@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife
> viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and
> no, I don't hunt there.
>
> Darrick
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> >
> > David, or anyone,
> >
> > Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of
> the pond?
> >
> > If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> > -Scott
> >
>
>  
>


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Sweet, I would love to get a blind and shoot some dear with my camera =)

-Brian




On February 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM Gray <earthdude123@...> wrote:

> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife
viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and
no, I don't hunt there.
>
> Darrick
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> >
> > David, or anyone,
> >
> > Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of
the pond?
> >
> > If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> > -Scott
> >
>
>

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I have to ask, was that misspelling intentional?  :-))

On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Photography by Davidson <brian@...> wrote:

> Sweet, I would love to get a blind and shoot some dear with my camera =)
> 
> -Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On February 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM Gray <earthdude123@...> wrote:
> 
>> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife
> viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and
> no, I don't hunt there.
>> 
>> Darrick
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> David, or anyone,
>>> 
>>> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of
> the pond?
>>> 
>>> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
>>> -Scott
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

I may still put my trail camera down there. It takes 8 mp stills or high
resolution video either with motion trip or in suvery mode at fixed
intervals in case something is over 40 feet away.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Photography by Davidson <
brian@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Sweet, I would love to get a blind and shoot some dear with my camera =)
>
> -Brian
>
>
> On February 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM Gray <earthdude123@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife
> viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me, and
> no, I don't hunt there.
> >
> > Darrick
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > David, or anyone,
> > >
> > > Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of
> the pond?
> > >
> > > If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> > > -Scott
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Well George, you are dear to many of us.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:51 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have to ask, was that misspelling intentional? :-))
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Photography by Davidson <
> brian@...> wrote:
>
> > Sweet, I would love to get a blind and shoot some dear with my camera =)
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On February 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM Gray <earthdude123@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more wildlife
> > viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me,
> and
> > no, I don't hunt there.
> >>
> >> Darrick
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> David, or anyone,
> >>>
> >>> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side of
> > the pond?
> >>>
> >>> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> >>> -Scott
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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Nope, probably my iPhone auto correct lol




On February 19, 2012 at 6:51 PM george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> I have to ask, was that misspelling intentional?  :-))
>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Photography by Davidson
<brian@...> wrote:
>
> > Sweet, I would love to get a blind and shoot some dear with my camera
=)
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On February 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM Gray <earthdude123@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I put them there. Thought maybe they would encourage some more
wildlife
> > viewing. If it's a problem, I will remove them. The only hunter is me,
and
> > no, I don't hunt there.
> >>
> >> Darrick
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> David, or anyone,
> >>>
> >>> Did someone place 3 deer licks (mineral blocks) along the west side
of
> > the pond?
> >>>
> >>> If not, i'm thinking hunters.....
> >>> -Scott
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >

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A beautiful night down here.

Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.

Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!

I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar Galaxies.  Yeah!!!

-scott

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
> 
>  
> 
> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving
> themselves.  I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get
> out.  I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
> called Vicarious Astronomy!
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
> 
> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up,
> but call me "sucker".
> 
> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
> 
> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from
> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
> 
> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got
> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The
> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
> 
> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became
> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
> dark.
> 
> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
> 
> Highlights for the night:
> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I
> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm
> logging it as a "definite maybe".
> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could
> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself
> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked
> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
> using 485x.
> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and
> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma,
> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
> watching this one?
> 
> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
> 
> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
> 
> -scott
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates.
> 
> > Steve
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
> promising. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anybody going down? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Scott 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I'm planning on going, I was going to drive too. I wanted to go up early and spend some time at the Science museum and visit some of the homes that Frank Lloyd Wright built.
 
With my limited funds and time I can only do one thing this year. 
 
I was also thinking about visiting the Indian Mounds in north-east Iowa. Anyone know anything about them?

--- On Sun, 2/19/12, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:


From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] alcon 2012
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 12:05 PM



  



We've decided to drive as well. Even if we take the tour bus to most of the
side trips we'll have the freedom to make out own little side trips if we
want. We may extend the trip a day before or after to accomidate those
little side trips. I can't pass up a trip to Chicago without a visit to the
Museum of Science and Industry and I'll bet Marcia would really like to
take a side trip over to Long Grove.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Gary Pittman <yrag1919@gmail.com> wrote:

> We may go David, but if we do we'll drive. We'll wait and see how bad the
> U.S. Government and the oil companies screw us.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Ok, it smells like smoke around here with all the thinking I've been
> doing
> > tonight. Marcia and I have decided to attend the Alcon 2012 and have
> > registered for everything except the last supper (pun intended).
> >
> > Air fare into O'hare is $527 for non stop round trip for two plus $25 per
> > bag each way. Air fare into Midway is $244 on Southwest with free checked
> > bags. Hmmmm.
> >
> > The Marriot shuttle from O'hare is $124 round trip for two. The Marriot
> > shuttle from Midway is $312 round trip for two. Its cheaper to fly into
> > Midway by $150 - $250 if you check 2 bags but its an extra 45 minutes
> > travel time each way.
> > Car rental at Midway is $322 for 5 days with unlimited mileage if you
> want
> > to play a bit on your own.
> >
> > Who else in KC will be going and how have you schemed to get get there?
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Clear skies,
>
> Gary Pittman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal

off site at Powell Gardens
Thursday February 23, 2012
8:30 pm - 11:30 pm

Notes:
Powell Gardens   observing only


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Nancy:

Don't know anything about the mounds, but I had to learn quite a bit 
about Chicago Architecture in the three architectural history classes 
while in the program at KU.  On one trip with the family, I dropped them 
off at the art museum and did my architecture tour to some of the 
buildings we reviewed in class.  I still have my Chicago buildings book 
if you would like to use it.

Joe

I found that there is a Chicago Architectural Foundation and they do bus/walking tours of the Wright home/workshop and some of the homes he built in the Oak Park area. I was thinking about doing that. At least right now one of the bus tours is on Tuesday.
 
Thanks.

--- On Sun, 2/19/12, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:


From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ASKC] alcon 2012
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 9:14 PM



  



Nancy:

Don't know anything about the mounds, but I had to learn quite a bit 
about Chicago Architecture in the three architectural history classes 
while in the program at KU. On one trip with the family, I dropped them 
off at the art museum and did my architecture tour to some of the 
buildings we reviewed in class. I still have my Chicago buildings book 
if you would like to use it.

Joe







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

David,

Is this supposed to be the JUNE 23 event I have scheduled?  Or is this really this Thurs.?

Grant Miller 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
> 
> off site at Powell Gardens
> Thursday February 23, 2012
> 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm
> 
> Notes:
> Powell Gardens   observing only
> 
> 
> All Rights Reserved
>  Copyright � 2012 
>  Yahoo! Inc.
>  http://www.yahoo.com
> 
> Privacy Policy:
>  http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
> 
> Terms of Service:
>  http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

hmmmmm   I wonder if I have something entered wrong? I do that now and then
ya know. I distinctly remember there was one in June and one in August,
none in July. I must have typed it in wrong. duh.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:02 PM, mllrgrnt <mllrgrnt@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> David,
>
> Is this supposed to be the JUNE 23 event I have scheduled? Or is this
> really this Thurs.?
>
> Grant Miller
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
>
> >
> > off site at Powell Gardens
> > Thursday February 23, 2012
>
> > 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm
> >
> > Notes:
> > Powell Gardens observing only
> >
> >
> > All Rights Reserved
> > Copyright � 2012
> > Yahoo! Inc.
> > http://www.yahoo.com
> >
> > Privacy Policy:
> > http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
> >
> > Terms of Service:
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
>
>  
>


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Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-))
 Under Spacious Skies,
Randy 




________________________________
From: stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip

  
A beautiful night down here.

Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.

Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. 
Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!

I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar 
Galaxies. Yeah!!!

-scott

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving
> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get
> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
> called Vicarious Astronomy!
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
> 
> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up,
> but call me "sucker".
> 
> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
> 
> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from
> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
> 
> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got
> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The
> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
> 
> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became
> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
> dark.
> 
> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
> 
> Highlights for the night:
> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I
> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm
> logging it as a "definite maybe".
> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could
> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself
> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked
> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
> using 485x.
> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and
> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma,
> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
> watching this one?
> 
> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
> 
> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
> 
> -scott
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates.
> 
> > Steve
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
> promising. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anybody going down? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Scott 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Couple of things I've done on past trips:

http://www.gowright.org/visit/robie-house.html

http://www.chicagoline.com/architectural.php

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Nancy Vaught <vaught701@...> wrote:
>
> I found that there is a Chicago Architectural Foundation and they do bus/walking tours of the Wright home/workshop and some of the homes he built in the Oak Park area. I was thinking about doing that. At least right now one of the bus tours is on Tuesday.
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/19/12, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] alcon 2012
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 9:14 PM
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Nancy:
> 
> Don't know anything about the mounds, but I had to learn quite a bit 
> about Chicago Architecture in the three architectural history classes 
> while in the program at KU. On one trip with the family, I dropped them 
> off at the art museum and did my architecture tour to some of the 
> buildings we reviewed in class. I still have my Chicago buildings book 
> if you would like to use it.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Not a problem.  You do many more things right.  If you aren't making any mistakes, then you aren't doing anything.  I checked the rest of the dates, they are correctly entered.
Grant

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> hmmmmm   I wonder if I have something entered wrong? I do that now and then
> ya know. I distinctly remember there was one in June and one in August,
> none in July. I must have typed it in wrong. duh.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:02 PM, mllrgrnt <mllrgrnt@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Is this supposed to be the JUNE 23 event I have scheduled? Or is this
> > really this Thurs.?
> >
> > Grant Miller
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/cal
> >
> > >
> > > off site at Powell Gardens
> > > Thursday February 23, 2012
> >
> > > 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm
> > >
> > > Notes:
> > > Powell Gardens observing only
> > >
> > >
> > > All Rights Reserved
> > > Copyright � 2012
> > > Yahoo! Inc.
> > > http://www.yahoo.com
> > >
> > > Privacy Policy:
> > > http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
> > >
> > > Terms of Service:
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Yep, I heard back from him and he has two, 8 inch mirrors.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
stripe1966
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:01 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Mirror grinding Question

 

  

That does make more since for a f/7 mirror.....

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , David Young
<youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> I think its two 8" mirrors.
> On Feb 19, 2012 2:34 PM, "stripe1966" <s.kranz1@...> wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Did I read this correctly? It's a 28-inch mirror and he wants it to be a
> > f/7? That would put the eyepiece roughly 15 feet above the ground.
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I received the following email regarding mirror grinding and, since I
> > have never done any mirror work other than building a Dob with a
pre-made
> > mirror, I told him I would pass his messages on to the membership.
> > >
> > > If any has an answer or information, you can either reply directly to
> > him (his address is in the email) or you can post it on the Yahoo group.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Rick Henderson
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 9lives@ [mailto:9lives@]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:29 AM
> > > To: askc_questions@
> > > Subject: Mirror grinding
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > > My name is Larry Morris and I live in Overland Park.
> > > I was wondering if you have any members that grind their own mirrors?
> > >
> > > I have 2 8" x 3/4" mirrors that I accuired several years ago that had
> > the coatings flaking off badly. I have removed the coatings using a Lye
> > solution.
> > >
> > > I had met someone back then that tested the mirrors and said they were
> > badly configured. Do you know of anyone locally that would be willing to
> > help me regrind these to make a decent scope for my daughter and I?
> > >
> > > Any information would be helpful.
> > >
> > > I did measure the Sagitta of both mirrors and it appears to be .125"
> > which I believe is an F/4.
> > > I would like to change one to maybe an F/7 if possible.
> > > Hopefully there is someone in your group that still does this.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Larry Morris
> > > 816-985-2834 cell
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Oh no, nothing like that. I received the League's Arp certificate quite a few years ago. But I enjoyed the weird galaxies so much I decided to complete the catalog. The League only requires that you observe 100 of the 338 objects. I just finished the last of the 338 last night. 


-Scott 




----- Original Message -----


From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@sbcglobal.net> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 

  




Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-)) 
 Under Spacious Skies, 
Randy 

________________________________ 
From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 

  
A beautiful night down here. 

Dan and Dale have joined me tonight. 

Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. 
Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT! 

I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar 
Galaxies. Yeah!!! 

-scott 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote: 
> 
> Scott, 
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving 
> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get 
> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing 
> called Vicarious Astronomy! 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
> stripe1966 
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies. 
> 
> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up, 
> but call me "sucker". 
> 
> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again. 
> 
> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from 
> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the 
> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend. 
> 
> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got 
> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for 
> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The 
> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew. 
> 
> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became 
> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly 
> dark. 
> 
> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries. 
> 
> Highlights for the night: 
> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south 
> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I 
> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm 
> logging it as a "definite maybe". 
> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and 
> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a 
> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could 
> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself 
> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked 
> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was 
> using 485x. 
> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and 
> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma, 
> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still 
> watching this one? 
> 
> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during 
> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight. 
> 
> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again...... 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , 
> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote: 
> > 
> > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates. 
> 
> > Steve 
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@ 
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks 
> promising. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anybody going down? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Scott 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 

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Does anyone have an electronic format (Word or text file) copy of the Powell
Keyholder's Manual?  If so, could you email a copy of it to me at

 

rhenderson1@...

 

Thanks.

 

Rick Henderson



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So that will make the new award the, "Scott Kranz Level Arp Club"

Way to go, Scott!

On Feb 20, 2012, at 7:10 PM, s.kranz1@... wrote:

> 
> 
> Oh no, nothing like that. I received the League's Arp certificate quite a few years ago. But I enjoyed the weird galaxies so much I decided to complete the catalog. The League only requires that you observe 100 of the 338 objects. I just finished the last of the 338 last night. 
> 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...> 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-)) 
>  Under Spacious Skies, 
> Randy 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... > 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
>   
> A beautiful night down here. 
> 
> Dan and Dale have joined me tonight. 
> 
> Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. 
> Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT! 
> 
> I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar 
> Galaxies. Yeah!!! 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote: 
>> 
>> Scott, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving 
>> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get 
>> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing 
>> called Vicarious Astronomy! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Henderson 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
>> stripe1966 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM 
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies. 
>> 
>> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up, 
>> but call me "sucker". 
>> 
>> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again. 
>> 
>> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from 
>> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the 
>> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend. 
>> 
>> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got 
>> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for 
>> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The 
>> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew. 
>> 
>> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became 
>> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly 
>> dark. 
>> 
>> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries. 
>> 
>> Highlights for the night: 
>> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south 
>> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I 
>> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm 
>> logging it as a "definite maybe". 
>> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and 
>> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a 
>> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could 
>> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself 
>> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked 
>> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was 
>> using 485x. 
>> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and 
>> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma, 
>> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still 
>> watching this one? 
>> 
>> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during 
>> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight. 
>> 
>> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again...... 
>> 
>> -scott 
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , 
>> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates. 
>> 
>>> Steve 
>>> 
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@ 
>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks 
>> promising. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anybody going down? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Scott 
>>>> 
>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
>> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Jen,

I assume you've had a couple visual reports already?

Add me to that list.

I observed it last night (February 19) from the DSS, using the 20-inch at 280x. The comet was located 9' SE of galaxy IC 1711 (a nice galaxy on its own).

I couldn't make it out with direct vision, but was able to hold it steadily with a/v and a little scope tapping. No brighter core or tail were seen. The coma was an even, round, diffuse glowing ball.

The catch-22 was waiting for it to get dark enough to observe, but the longer I waited, the lower it got. The comet was also sitting right in the middle of the zodical light which didn't help either.

But it was there!

-Scott


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, ICSTARS <comments@...> wrote:
>
> While watching the page of observations and 
> orbit, we were worried when we saw the data disappear.
> That's because it went somewhere else.
> The minor planet center confirms Comet C/2012 C2 
> (Bruenjes) as a new discovery.
> 
> http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K12/K12C44.html
> 
> Clear skies,
> jen
> 
> At 03:17 PM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Awesome!!!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cindy
> >
> >On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:59 PM, ICSTARS 
> ><<mailto:comments%40icstars.com>comments@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys!
> > >
> > > Still in the early stages of it, but it looks like our ASKC
> > > member, Fred Bruenjes found a comet this weekend. And we even think
> > > it is a new discovery.
> > > Currently it has the designation T0003C
> > >
> > > It's fuzzy and kind of blueish green.
> > >
> > > He was open and comet hunting Friday night until the moon spoiled the
> > > sky - and found something fuzzy and moving in blink images.
> > > He followed up last night with almost 50 images and made his
> > > submission to the Minor Planet Center.
> > >
> > > It has been followed up on by a lot of observatories so far and has
> > > about 50 observations while I write this.
> > > You can see these follow ups at:
> > > 
> > <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&obs=y
> > >
> > > The preliminary orbital plotting is updated at:
> > > 
> > <http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y>http://scully.cfa.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/showobsorbs.cgi?Obj=T0003C&orb=y
> > >
> > > I put a picture on my FB page if anyone wants to see it.
> > > Tonight, we hope to get a deeper image of it; as he was so wide field
> > > with the search imaging.
> > > Fred posted an animation online of the first 3 discovery images.
> > > 
> > <http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif>http://www.moonglow.net/ccd/comet/Discovery.gif
> > >
> > > The equipment he was using was:
> > > LX200-14" (the scope Meade donated to StarGarden Foundation thanks to
> > > David Levy)
> > > - after a lightning strike, the board fried and Fred fabricated a
> > > whole new green PCB control board and reprogrammed it.
> > > Because he wrote the slewing script himself, he was able to do
> > > something new in the positioning algorithm so it would slew faster
> > > and more directly.
> > > A hyperstar
> > > a Canon DSLR mounted on the hyperstar
> > > He also wrote his own script to select candidate locations to scan;
> > > drive the scope and loop back to image again.
> > > Recently, Fred had hacked his scripts and firmware so that he could
> > > slew WHILE the camera was downloading instead of waiting to download
> > > before slewing.
> > > All this meant he can scan a lot more sky and cover a lot more
> > > ground. It looks like it paid off this weekend.
> > >
> > > So we're all waiting with baited breath to see if the comet was one
> > > which was lost and now re-found or if it could be a new comet
> > > discovery for Fred!
> > >
> > > Clear skies,
> > > jen
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jen Dudley Winter -
> > >
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> > >
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Scott, is there a chance you could give a program/talk on Arp Galaxies or just deep sky observing at a meeting of the Omaha Astro Society?  Would a meal afterwards, overnight accommodations and at least gas money be tempting?  I hope so.

A couple notes from this last weekend at the DSS: 



(1) whoever was down last left the red lights plugged in the outhouse, and of course, they are burnt out now. I replaced them with one of the red light ropes from the building. They work nicely! I think I will bring a outlet timer down next time and plug the lights into that. We will just have to re-set the timer each evening then. 

(2) David, a ll the bales of hay are gone from the top of the hill. Did we receive any kind of payment? 

(3) The last year of rains have started to wear at the road along the north side of the hill. It may be time to dump another load or 2 of gravel and rock. 

(4) David and Steve, t he outhouse exhaust fan is not working. 

(5) I am going to get a box and label it "Found on the Observing Field" and put it in the building. This weeknd I found a pair of sunglasses and a phono-jack (the big kind). 

(6) Voles have moved into the SE corner of the observing field so be careful driving through there. They are making some big tunnels so it is a little rough and soft. It doesn't pay to try to get rid of them -  it's a field! 

(7) Steve, out on the field, on electrical post #4, the south 20amp outlet, top,  has been fried and melted. Apparently something got waaaay to hot. I didn't check if there was any power going through it, but it looks in rough shape and needs replacing. 

(8) The neighbor dogs are back! This year there are 2 of them and both are EXTREMELY friendly! Sunday morning they came over and I pretty much ignored them and they left after a couple hours. Last night they came over again and stayed all night long (well, at least till 1:00am when I left). 

(9) Chuck Eds, and his wife, stopped by the DSS early Saturday evening. They live in the Joplin area and make multiple trips to Kansas City. While visiting the HMS Beagle, they heard about the ASKC and joined (Thanks Lei f!) . On the way back to Joplin Saturday, they decided to stop by to check the site out. 

(10) If you want to use the trash bins in the building, please put a trash bag in first. And then take your trash along back home with you! I caught and threw out 4 more mice this weekend. 





----- Original Message -----
From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 

  




Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-)) 
 Under Spacious Skies, 
Randy 

________________________________ 
From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 

  
A beautiful night down here. 

Dan and Dale have joined me tonight. 

Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. 
Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT! 

I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar 
Galaxies. Yeah!!! 

-scott 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote: 
> 
> Scott, 
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started behaving 
> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get 
> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing 
> called Vicarious Astronomy! 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson 
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
> stripe1966 
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies. 
> 
> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set up, 
> but call me "sucker". 
> 
> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again. 
> 
> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are from 
> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the 
> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend. 
> 
> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I got 
> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for 
> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The 
> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew. 
> 
> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became 
> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly 
> dark. 
> 
> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries. 
> 
> Highlights for the night: 
> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south 
> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I 
> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. I'm 
> logging it as a "definite maybe". 
> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and 
> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a 
> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could 
> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself 
> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I checked 
> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was 
> using 485x. 
> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now and 
> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge coma, 
> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still 
> watching this one? 
> 
> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during 
> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight. 
> 
> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again...... 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , 
> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote: 
> > 
> > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather cooperates. 
> 
> > Steve 
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@ 
> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks 
> promising. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anybody going down? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Scott 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 

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Link to my 16" LB if anyone might be interested.  Tough times for the family so need to find funds somewhere, hopefully can set aside a couple bucks to fund something for another day.

http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=766653

Congrats, Scott. I finished all 338 about 10 years ago, and considered it to 
be my most memorable observing accomplishments. I'm guessing a person  can 
count on one hand the number of observers who have seen them all through an 
eyepiece. Way to go.

Jim

PS: What took you so long 8^)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <s.kranz1@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip




Oh no, nothing like that. I received the League's Arp certificate quite a 
few years ago. But I enjoyed the weird galaxies so much I decided to 
complete the catalog. The League only requires that you observe 100 of the 
338 objects. I just finished the last of the 338 last night.


-Scott




----- Original Message -----


From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip






Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-))
Under Spacious Skies,
Randy

________________________________
From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... >
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip


A beautiful night down here.

Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.

Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution.
Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!

I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar
Galaxies. Yeah!!!

-scott

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
>
>
> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started 
> behaving
> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to get
> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
> called Vicarious Astronomy!
>
>
>
> Rick Henderson
>
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> stripe1966
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>
>
>
>
>
> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
>
> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set 
> up,
> but call me "sucker".
>
> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
>
> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are 
> from
> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
>
> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I 
> got
> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! The
> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
>
> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it became
> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
> dark.
>
> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
>
> Highlights for the night:
> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday I
> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. 
> I'm
> logging it as a "definite maybe".
> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, could
> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool myself
> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I 
> checked
> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
> using 485x.
> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now 
> and
> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge 
> coma,
> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
> watching this one?
>
> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
>
> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
>
> -scott
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather 
> > cooperates.
>
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , s.kranz1@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
> promising.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anybody going down?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Congratulations Scott. This comes as no surprise. Have you viewed all 7,840
objects in the Revised New General Catalogue yet? <G>

Gary

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:10 PM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Oh no, nothing like that. I received the League's Arp certificate quite a
> few years ago. But I enjoyed the weird galaxies so much I decided to
> complete the catalog. The League only requires that you observe 100 of the
> 338 objects. I just finished the last of the 338 last night.
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>
>
>
> Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-))
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... >
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>
>
> A beautiful night down here.
>
> Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.
>
> Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution.
> Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!
>
> I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar
> Galaxies. Yeah!!!
>
> -scott
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started
> behaving
> > themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to
> get
> > out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
> > called Vicarious Astronomy!
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > stripe1966
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
> >
> > By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set
> up,
> > but call me "sucker".
> >
> > By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
> >
> > New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are
> from
> > the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
> > DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
> >
> > I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I
> got
> > up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
> > another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear!
> The
> > temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
> >
> > Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it
> became
> > rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
> > dark.
> >
> > I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
> >
> > Highlights for the night:
> > - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
> > - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday
> I
> > think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position.
> I'm
> > logging it as a "definite maybe".
> > - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
> > getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
> > brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core,
> could
> > be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool
> myself
> > into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I
> checked
> > the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
> > using 485x.
> > - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now
> and
> > is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge
> coma,
> > brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
> > watching this one?
> >
> > The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
> > twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
> >
> > It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
> >
> > -scott
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather
> cooperates.
> >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> s.kranz1@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
> > promising.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anybody going down?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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We have not been paid for the hay as far as I know.
I know about the fan not working.
Gravel is exensive and we'll have to see where the money is going to come
from.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> A couple notes from this last weekend at the DSS:
>
> (1) whoever was down last left the red lights plugged in the outhouse, and
> of course, they are burnt out now. I replaced them with one of the red
> light ropes from the building. They work nicely! I think I will bring a
> outlet timer down next time and plug the lights into that. We will just
> have to re-set the timer each evening then.
>
> (2) David, a ll the bales of hay are gone from the top of the hill. Did we
> receive any kind of payment?
>
> (3) The last year of rains have started to wear at the road along the
> north side of the hill. It may be time to dump another load or 2 of gravel
> and rock.
>
> (4) David and Steve, t he outhouse exhaust fan is not working.
>
> (5) I am going to get a box and label it "Found on the Observing Field"
> and put it in the building. This weeknd I found a pair of sunglasses and a
> phono-jack (the big kind).
>
> (6) Voles have moved into the SE corner of the observing field so be
> careful driving through there. They are making some big tunnels so it is a
> little rough and soft. It doesn't pay to try to get rid of them -  it's a
> field!
>
> (7) Steve, out on the field, on electrical post #4, the south 20amp
> outlet, top,  has been fried and melted. Apparently something got waaaay to
> hot. I didn't check if there was any power going through it, but it looks
> in rough shape and needs replacing.
>
> (8) The neighbor dogs are back! This year there are 2 of them and both are
> EXTREMELY friendly! Sunday morning they came over and I pretty much ignored
> them and they left after a couple hours. Last night they came over again
> and stayed all night long (well, at least till 1:00am when I left).
>
> (9) Chuck Eds, and his wife, stopped by the DSS early Saturday evening.
> They live in the Joplin area and make multiple trips to Kansas City. While
> visiting the HMS Beagle, they heard about the ASKC and joined (Thanks Lei
> f!) . On the way back to Joplin Saturday, they decided to stop by to check
> the site out.
>
> (10) If you want to use the trash bins in the building, please put a trash
> bag in first. And then take your trash along back home with you! I caught
> and threw out 4 more mice this weekend.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>
>
>
> Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-))
>  Under Spacious Skies,
> Randy
>
> ________________________________
> From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... >
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>
>
> A beautiful night down here.
>
> Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.
>
> Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution.
> Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!
>
> I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar
> Galaxies. Yeah!!!
>
> -scott
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started
> behaving
> > themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to
> get
> > out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
> > called Vicarious Astronomy!
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Henderson
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > stripe1966
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
> >
> > By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set
> up,
> > but call me "sucker".
> >
> > By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
> >
> > New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are
> from
> > the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
> > DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
> >
> > I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I
> got
> > up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
> > another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear!
> The
> > temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
> >
> > Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it
> became
> > rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
> > dark.
> >
> > I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
> >
> > Highlights for the night:
> > - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
> > - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday
> I
> > think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position.
> I'm
> > logging it as a "definite maybe".
> > - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
> > getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
> > brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core,
> could
> > be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool
> myself
> > into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I
> checked
> > the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
> > using 485x.
> > - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now
> and
> > is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge
> coma,
> > brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
> > watching this one?
> >
> > The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
> > twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
> >
> > It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
> >
> > -scott
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather
> cooperates.
> >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> s.kranz1@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
> > promising.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anybody going down?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 
>


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If anyone is interested in a MCHP camera 
Can sell alone or with everything you need .
Contact me off group
Dan

Just in case anyone is wondering and wants to reply outside of the egroup,
bigdob24 is Daniel Mitchel

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:49 AM, bigdob24 <dstm24@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> If anyone is interested in a MCHP camera
> Can sell alone or with everything you need .
> Contact me off group
> Dan
>
>  
>


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Check this out:

http://hokukea.uhh.hawaii.edu/Observational_Astronomy/Welcome.html

Location, location, location!!!

Joe

Looks nice but we'll be in Ireland.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://hokukea.uhh.hawaii.edu/Observational_Astronomy/Welcome.html
>
> Location, location, location!!!
>
> Joe
>  
>


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geeezzz Gary - he does that as a warm up each night!!
Mike Sterling


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Any ideas on what a load of gravel/rock cost these days to be delivered to the DSS? I know the cost varies due to gas prices, but any estimate on total cost per load? 

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:51:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip - ATTN David Y and Steve K 

We have not been paid for the hay as far as I know. 
I know about the fan not working. 
Gravel is exensive and we'll have to see where the money is going to come 
from. 

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote: 

> ** 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A couple notes from this last weekend at the DSS: 
> 
> (1) whoever was down last left the red lights plugged in the outhouse, and 
> of course, they are burnt out now. I replaced them with one of the red 
> light ropes from the building. They work nicely! I think I will bring a 
> outlet timer down next time and plug the lights into that. We will just 
> have to re-set the timer each evening then. 
> 
> (2) David, a ll the bales of hay are gone from the top of the hill. Did we 
> receive any kind of payment? 
> 
> (3) The last year of rains have started to wear at the road along the 
> north side of the hill. It may be time to dump another load or 2 of gravel 
> and rock. 
> 
> (4) David and Steve, t he outhouse exhaust fan is not working. 
> 
> (5) I am going to get a box and label it "Found on the Observing Field" 
> and put it in the building. This weeknd I found a pair of sunglasses and a 
> phono-jack (the big kind). 
> 
> (6) Voles have moved into the SE corner of the observing field so be 
> careful driving through there. They are making some big tunnels so it is a 
> little rough and soft. It doesn't pay to try to get rid of them -  it's a 
> field! 
> 
> (7) Steve, out on the field, on electrical post #4, the south 20amp 
> outlet, top,  has been fried and melted. Apparently something got waaaay to 
> hot. I didn't check if there was any power going through it, but it looks 
> in rough shape and needs replacing. 
> 
> (8) The neighbor dogs are back! This year there are 2 of them and both are 
> EXTREMELY friendly! Sunday morning they came over and I pretty much ignored 
> them and they left after a couple hours. Last night they came over again 
> and stayed all night long (well, at least till 1:00am when I left). 
> 
> (9) Chuck Eds, and his wife, stopped by the DSS early Saturday evening. 
> They live in the Joplin area and make multiple trips to Kansas City. While 
> visiting the HMS Beagle, they heard about the ASKC and joined (Thanks Lei 
> f!) . On the way back to Joplin Saturday, they decided to stop by to check 
> the site out. 
> 
> (10) If you want to use the trash bins in the building, please put a trash 
> bag in first. And then take your trash along back home with you! I caught 
> and threw out 4 more mice this weekend. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "RANDY THOMPSON" <randiwe269@...> 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM 
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
> 
> 
> Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-)) 
>  Under Spacious Skies, 
> Randy 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: stripe1966 < s.kranz1@... > 
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> 
> 
> A beautiful night down here. 
> 
> Dan and Dale have joined me tonight. 
> 
> Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution. 
> Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT! 
> 
> I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar 
> Galaxies. Yeah!!! 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > Scott, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started 
> behaving 
> > themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to 
> get 
> > out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing 
> > called Vicarious Astronomy! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rick Henderson 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
> > stripe1966 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM 
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies. 
> > 
> > By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set 
> up, 
> > but call me "sucker". 
> > 
> > By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again. 
> > 
> > New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are 
> from 
> > the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the 
> > DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend. 
> > 
> > I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I 
> got 
> > up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for 
> > another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear! 
> The 
> > temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew. 
> > 
> > Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it 
> became 
> > rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly 
> > dark. 
> > 
> > I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries. 
> > 
> > Highlights for the night: 
> > - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south 
> > - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday 
> I 
> > think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position. 
> I'm 
> > logging it as a "definite maybe". 
> > - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and 
> > getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a 
> > brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core, 
> could 
> > be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool 
> myself 
> > into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I 
> checked 
> > the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was 
> > using 485x. 
> > - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now 
> and 
> > is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge 
> coma, 
> > brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still 
> > watching this one? 
> > 
> > The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during 
> > twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight. 
> > 
> > It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again...... 
> > 
> > -scott 
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , 
> > "stevepocock_kc0ngu" <descarte@> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather 
> cooperates. 
> > 
> > > Steve 
> > > 
> > > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , 
> s.kranz1@ 
> > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks 
> > promising. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Anybody going down? 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Scott 
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Timing, timing, timing.

I am going to the Big Island myself a week starting March 29th, more in
time for spring break than summer school.  And just last night I was
googling what and how I would spend my time at Hilo and higher . . . .

On the plus side, the total cost (including air fare) is about what I'm
spending on two weeks and the minus side, the application looks like they
are aiming for true undergrads with career aims, not retired hobbyists like
myself.  But I bet they'd be interested in a "mid-careerist" like you, Joe,
with your skill set!!!!

So, any suggestions on how I should spend my two days around Hilo.
 Minimum, I am going up to the Visitor's Center.  Not sure I have the time
and $$ to do the actual summit.  Thoughts or suggestions welcome . . . .

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:45 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> Looks nice but we'll be in Ireland.
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Check this out:
> >
> > http://hokukea.uhh.hawaii.edu/Observational_Astronomy/Welcome.html
> >
> > Location, location, location!!!
> >
> > Joe
> >
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Lots of thing to do on the Island. Sounds like you're going to be on the
wet side. We usually went to the dry side (Kona). We prefer Maui though. If
you make it over to Maui you could try Cruiser Bob's Bike ride down
Haleakala. It thinks it 26 miles downhill almost all the way.

If you get the time to go to Mona Kea you might be able to do some
observing at the 9000 foot level visitor's center. A trip to the volcano
park is great. I think the lava is still flowing into the ocean from
the Pu'u 'O'o vent of Kilauea.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Denise Moser <dennyzen@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Timing, timing, timing.
>
> I am going to the Big Island myself a week starting March 29th, more in
> time for spring break than summer school. And just last night I was
> googling what and how I would spend my time at Hilo and higher . . . .
>
> On the plus side, the total cost (including air fare) is about what I'm
> spending on two weeks and the minus side, the application looks like they
> are aiming for true undergrads with career aims, not retired hobbyists like
> myself. But I bet they'd be interested in a "mid-careerist" like you, Joe,
> with your skill set!!!!
>
> So, any suggestions on how I should spend my two days around Hilo.
> Minimum, I am going up to the Visitor's Center. Not sure I have the time
> and $$ to do the actual summit. Thoughts or suggestions welcome . . . .
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:45 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Looks nice but we'll be in Ireland.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Check this out:
> > >
> > > http://hokukea.uhh.hawaii.edu/Observational_Astronomy/Welcome.html
> > >
> > > Location, location, location!!!
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
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Private scout group   40 kids 10 adults
Saturday February 25, 2012
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm

Notes:
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Weather forecast is looking relatively good for this Friday, so I'm going to recommend to Bill Koch that he go ahead and inform his classes.  I'm putting a presentation together and am aware of one other volunteer as of now.  More would be good.  Also I have not yet used the new controller, so may need a bit of training.

I plan to arrive by 7 PM on Friday.

Anyone head over to Bloomington, St. Louis or Chicago anytime soon? I have
some astro equipment that could be picked up as opposed to incurring
shipping costs. I'd pay someone the shipping costs just for the convenience.


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Private group  Jccc astro class
Friday February 24, 2012
6:00 pm - 11:00 pm

Notes:
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Jay Manifold


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Road Trip!

Gary

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Anyone head over to Bloomington, St. Louis or Chicago anytime soon? I have
> some astro equipment that could be picked up as opposed to incurring
> shipping costs. I'd pay someone the shipping costs just for the
> convenience.
>
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-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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Last receipt for Hay was Oct 8, 2011, ~600 USD.

On 20-Feb-12 22:51, David Young wrote:
> We have not been paid for the hay as far as I know.
> I know about the fan not working.
> Gravel is exensive and we'll have to see where the money is going to come
> from.
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM,<s.kranz1@...>  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A couple notes from this last weekend at the DSS:
>>
>> (1) whoever was down last left the red lights plugged in the outhouse, and
>> of course, they are burnt out now. I replaced them with one of the red
>> light ropes from the building. They work nicely! I think I will bring a
>> outlet timer down next time and plug the lights into that. We will just
>> have to re-set the timer each evening then.
>>
>> (2) David, a ll the bales of hay are gone from the top of the hill. Did we
>> receive any kind of payment?
>>
>> (3) The last year of rains have started to wear at the road along the
>> north side of the hill. It may be time to dump another load or 2 of gravel
>> and rock.
>>
>> (4) David and Steve, t he outhouse exhaust fan is not working.
>>
>> (5) I am going to get a box and label it "Found on the Observing Field"
>> and put it in the building. This weeknd I found a pair of sunglasses and a
>> phono-jack (the big kind).
>>
>> (6) Voles have moved into the SE corner of the observing field so be
>> careful driving through there. They are making some big tunnels so it is a
>> little rough and soft. It doesn't pay to try to get rid of them -  it's a
>> field!
>>
>> (7) Steve, out on the field, on electrical post #4, the south 20amp
>> outlet, top,  has been fried and melted. Apparently something got waaaay to
>> hot. I didn't check if there was any power going through it, but it looks
>> in rough shape and needs replacing.
>>
>> (8) The neighbor dogs are back! This year there are 2 of them and both are
>> EXTREMELY friendly! Sunday morning they came over and I pretty much ignored
>> them and they left after a couple hours. Last night they came over again
>> and stayed all night long (well, at least till 1:00am when I left).
>>
>> (9) Chuck Eds, and his wife, stopped by the DSS early Saturday evening.
>> They live in the Joplin area and make multiple trips to Kansas City. While
>> visiting the HMS Beagle, they heard about the ASKC and joined (Thanks Lei
>> f!) . On the way back to Joplin Saturday, they decided to stop by to check
>> the site out.
>>
>> (10) If you want to use the trash bins in the building, please put a trash
>> bag in first. And then take your trash along back home with you! I caught
>> and threw out 4 more mice this weekend.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RANDY THOMPSON"<randiwe269@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:00:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>>
>>
>>
>> Put one more pin in your hat and you will stop growing(up). ;-))
>>   Under Spacious Skies,
>> Randy
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: stripe1966<  s.kranz1@...>
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Sun, February 19, 2012 7:28:25 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>>
>>
>> A beautiful night down here.
>>
>> Dan and Dale have joined me tonight.
>>
>> Venus, Jupiter, and the zodical light could be considered light pollution.
>> Winter Milky Way is BRIGHT!
>>
>> I just finished logging my final Arp galaxy in the Arp Catalog of Peculiar
>> Galaxies. Yeah!!!
>>
>> -scott
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , "Rick Henderson"<rhenderson1@...>  wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like a pretty nice evening (morning?) once the skies started
>> behaving
>>> themselves. I had no idea that Garradd was still that prominent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the update, especially for those of us who weren't able to
>> get
>>> out. I think you have enabled us to indulge in a new form of observing
>>> called Vicarious Astronomy!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Henderson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto: ASKC@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
>>> stripe1966
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:17 AM
>>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: February New Moon weekend DSS trip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I got down here around 3:00 Saturday afternoon to partly cloudy skies.
>>>
>>> By 5:30, the entire sky was nearly clear. I figured I was lucky so I set
>> up,
>>> but call me "sucker".
>>>
>>> By sunset, the sky had completely covered over again.
>>>
>>> New members Chuck Eds and his wife showed up for a little bit. They are
>> from
>>> the Joplin area and were traveling to KC and decided to try and find the
>>> DSS. He looked around and promised to be back for a New Moon weekend.
>>>
>>> I covered the scope, went to bed. and set the alarm for midnight. When I
>> got
>>> up the sky was covered with large holes in the clouds. Back to bed for
>>> another hour. I crawled out at 1:30 and the sky was completely clear!
>> The
>>> temperature was still 34 degrees and there was no dew.
>>>
>>> Seeing was average, but there were a few moments inbetween when it
>> became
>>> rock steady. The average Sky Quality Meter reading was 21.35, so fairly
>>> dark.
>>>
>>> I logged another 13 flat galaxies and a couple Minkowski planetaries.
>>>
>>> Highlights for the night:
>>> - at 5:41am there was a -8 magnitude Iridium flare high in the south
>>> - hunted down a newly discovered planetary nebula (discovered yesterday
>> I
>>> think). It was low in Vulpecula so it wasn't in prime viewing position.
>> I'm
>>> logging it as a "definite maybe".
>>> - observed the jet in M87! It took a good 20-30 minutes of watching and
>>> getting 3 or 4 moments of rock steasy seeing. But in those moments, a
>>> brighter spike from the core, running about halfway out of the core,
>> could
>>> be seen. I purposely didn't check the chart first so I didn't fool
>> myself
>>> into seeing it. But after the 3 or 4 spikes in the same location, I
>> checked
>>> the charts and the spike was exactly where it was supposed to be! I was
>>> using 485x.
>>> - observed Comet Garradd (2009 P1). It's all the way north in Draco now
>> and
>>> is still bright in 10x50 binos!!! It looked amazing in the scope! Huge
>> coma,
>>> brighter nucleus, and a slight tail. I wonder how long we'll be still
>>> watching this one?
>>>
>>> The low for the night was 21 with just a little frost forming during
>>> twilight. The forcast looks good tonight until at least midnight.
>>>
>>> It's now 7:10am and I hear the bed calling again......
>>>
>>> -scott
>>>
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  ,
>>> "stevepocock_kc0ngu"<descarte@>  wrote:
>>>> Maybe Saturday if the clouds play fair, also Sunday if weather
>> cooperates.
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  ,
>> s.kranz1@
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So tonight (Friday) looks to be clouded out, but Saturday looks
>>> promising.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody going down?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Scott
>>>>>
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> Jay Manifold
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Jay,

 

I will be your designated driver for the scope and the JCCC class on Friday.
I'll be there between 6:30 and 7:00 PM.

 

If they cancel, call me at 913-481-1094.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Manifold
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:24 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Pre-Reminder on JCCC @ Powell this Friday the 24th

 

  

Weather forecast is looking relatively good for this Friday, so I'm going to
recommend to Bill Koch that he go ahead and inform his classes. I'm putting
a presentation together and am aware of one other volunteer as of now. More
would be good. Also I have not yet used the new controller, so may need a
bit of training.

I plan to arrive by 7 PM on Friday.





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In that case, I'll be sure to knock back a few stiff ones during the course of the evening ... seriously, thanks.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay,
> 
> I will be your designated driver for the scope and the JCCC class on Friday.
> I'll be there between 6:30 and 7:00 PM.
> 
> If they cancel, call me at 913-481-1094.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 

Jay, 
      I will come out and lend a hand. See you Friday.
                                                         John Fitzgerald

--- On Wed, 2/22/12, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

From: Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Pre-Reminder on JCCC @ Powell this Friday the 24th
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 8:11 PM
















 



  


    
      
      
      In that case, I'll be sure to knock back a few stiff ones during the course of the evening ... seriously, thanks.



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:

>

> Jay,

> 

> I will be your designated driver for the scope and the JCCC class on Friday.

> I'll be there between 6:30 and 7:00 PM.

> 

> If they cancel, call me at 913-481-1094.

> 

> Rick Henderson

> 





    
     

    
    






  










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Thanks!!

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, John Fitzgerald <jhonfitz@...> wrote:
>
> Jay, 
> I will come out and lend a hand. See you Friday.
> John Fitzgerald
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/22/12, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
> 

If anyone is interested in a mount, this one is in very good shape , I bought it new and have used it.  It does have a brand new hand pad  from Orion just last year.
Get ahold of me off group
Dan Mitchell 
dstm24@...

Pardon my ignorance.  Is this an eq mount with computer drive and does it include the standard Orion tripod? Lastly how much do you want for it?
Johnny

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:03 AM, "bigdob24" <dstm24@gmail.com> wrote:

> If anyone is interested in a mount, this one is in very good shape , I bought it new and have used it. It does have a brand new hand pad from Orion just last year.
> Get ahold of me off group
> Dan Mitchell 
> dstm24@...
> 
> 


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Jay Manifold, David Neuenschwander, John Fitzgerald and I hosted 32 students
from Bill Koch's astronomy class at JCCC tonight.  Jay gave programs, David
ran the 16" in the LCT while John and I herded the guests through the dome
for the Ruisinger.

 

By the way, tonight marked the new SkyWalker control systems first
public/private night and it worked like a charm.  Steve King, Roger Gruenke
and I are currently finalizing the wiring, hand controller and power supply
configuration, but everything worked just like it should.  I used TheSky to
control the Ruisinger all night long without a hitch.

 

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

 

We had a brief cloudy period, followed and preceded by very nice, clear
crisp skies.  We looked at the usual hit parade including the Moon, Venus
and Jupiter which made a beautiful line-up in the west.

 

M31, the double cluster in Perseus, M42 (of course) and Mars were the next
guest stars before the students got tired, cold or both and headed back to
the big city.  I stuck around for another hour or so looking at galaxies in
Leo and Virgo.  If I didn't have to get up Saturday morning, I would have
stayed longer.

 

A fun night.

 

Rick Henderson



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So it was "first electrons" for the new setup?  ;^)

I hope everybody else had as much fun as I did.  It was a gorgeous night.  The Winter Milky Way was visible!

Huge thanks to all for helping.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay Manifold, David Neuenschwander, John Fitzgerald and I hosted 32 students
> from Bill Koch's astronomy class at JCCC tonight.  Jay gave programs, David
> ran the 16" in the LCT while John and I herded the guests through the dome
> for the Ruisinger.
> 
>  
> 
> By the way, tonight marked the new SkyWalker control systems first
> public/private night and it worked like a charm.  Steve King, Roger Gruenke
> and I are currently finalizing the wiring, hand controller and power supply
> configuration, but everything worked just like it should.  I used TheSky to
> control the Ruisinger all night long without a hitch.
> 
>  
> 
> And now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
> 
>  
> 
> We had a brief cloudy period, followed and preceded by very nice, clear
> crisp skies.  We looked at the usual hit parade including the Moon, Venus
> and Jupiter which made a beautiful line-up in the west.
> 
>  
> 
> M31, the double cluster in Perseus, M42 (of course) and Mars were the next
> guest stars before the students got tired, cold or both and headed back to
> the big city.  I stuck around for another hour or so looking at galaxies in
> Leo and Virgo.  If I didn't have to get up Saturday morning, I would have
> stayed longer.
> 
>  
> 
> A fun night.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

great job guys!
Mike Sterling
 
 
In a message dated 2/25/2012 6:40:16 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
jay_manifold@... writes:

 
 
 
So it was "first electrons" for the new setup? ;^)

I hope everybody  else had as much fun as I did. It was a gorgeous night. 
The Winter Milky Way  was visible!

Huge thanks to all for helping.

--- In _ASKC@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com) , "Rick  
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Jay Manifold, David  Neuenschwander, John Fitzgerald and I hosted 32 
students
> from Bill  Koch's astronomy class at JCCC tonight. Jay gave programs, 
David
> ran  the 16" in the LCT while John and I herded the guests through the 
dome
>  for the Ruisinger.
> 
> 
> 
> By the way, tonight  marked the new SkyWalker control systems first
> public/private night  and it worked like a charm. Steve King, Roger 
Gruenke
> and I are  currently finalizing the wiring, hand controller and power 
supply
>  configuration, but everything worked just like it should. I used TheSky  
to
> control the Ruisinger all night long without a hitch.
>  
> 
> 
> And now back to our regularly scheduled  programming.
> 
> 
> 
> We had a brief cloudy period,  followed and preceded by very nice, clear
> crisp skies. We looked at  the usual hit parade including the Moon, Venus
> and Jupiter which made  a beautiful line-up in the west.
> 
> 
> 
> M31, the  double cluster in Perseus, M42 (of course) and Mars were the 
next
>  guest stars before the students got tired, cold or both and headed back  
to
> the big city. I stuck around for another hour or so looking at  galaxies 
in
> Leo and Virgo. If I didn't have to get up Saturday  morning, I would have
> stayed longer.
> 
> 
>  
> A fun night.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick  Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this  message have been removed]
>






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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /Messier Marathon record log 2012.pdf 
  Uploaded by : stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...> 
  Description : Messier Marathon logsheet 

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I had several requests tonight for the Messier Marathon logsheet. It is now available in the "Files" section.
-Scott

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> 
> Hello,
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> Regards,
> 
> stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...>
>

Scott:

Will you have any copies at the DSS next month?

Jim
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:32 AM
Subject: [ASKC] Re: New file uploaded to ASKC


>I had several requests tonight for the Messier Marathon logsheet. It is now 
>available in the "Files" section.
> -Scott
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>>   File        : /Messier Marathon record log 2012.pdf
>>   Uploaded by : stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...>
>>   Description : Messier Marathon logsheet
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>> You can access this file at the URL:
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>> Regards,
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Let's make the March deadline Wednesday, Feb. 28, please.

Any one have anything to contribute?

Thanks, Marcia

Marty Tippen brought thirty nine boy scouts to Powell last night and we had
a few walk-in visitors around 9:00. Marty set up his scope outside while I
ran the 30". Jupiter, M-42 and Mars kept them entertained until around
10:00. Scouts helped stack the chairs and Marty and another leader stayed
to help close up and tarp the scope and it was greatly appreciated.

 I'm sure a few people will be uneasy at first since the new system uses
TheSky to control the telescope. Its not rocket science TheSky is easy to
use, loaded with useful features and has a very short learning curve. Last
night was the first time I've used the new system and the 15 minute
training session from Rick and Steve last week was all I needed for a night
of trouble free observing. The new control system performed very well, just
keep track of the ladder during a slew when it rotates the fork since it
does NOT go to celestial north first. It makes for a faster slew and this
is the way the scope worked orginally from 1985 until 1995.


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Hello Marcia,

The membership approved the preliminary vote for the bylaws change last
night so we will need to include a ballot for the final vote in the March
Cosmic Messenger. Include the bylaws requirements for absentee ballots.

4.0 Absentee Ballots
4.1 Absentee ballots will be allowed for election of officers, change of
bylaws, change of dues or issues referred by the board to the general
membership for a vote using a preprinted ballot. Preprinted ballots will be
published in the Cosmic Messenger or sent by special mailing.
4.2 Absentee ballots must be in a signed sealed envelope and received
before the polls are closed to be valid.
4.3 Absentee ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.
4.4 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.

Let's have the membership mail their absentee ballots to the post office
box and state that they must arrive by Saturday, the 24th of March. I'll
check the post office on Saturday afternoon before the meeting.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Thanks.

Gary
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Marcia Young <mryoung@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Let's make the March deadline Wednesday, Feb. 28, please.
>
> Any one have anything to contribute?
>
> Thanks, Marcia
>  
>



-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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you got it....thanks!
M
On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Gary Pittman wrote:

> Hello Marcia,
>
> The membership approved the preliminary vote for the bylaws change  
> last
> night so we will need to include a ballot for the final vote in the  
> March
> Cosmic Messenger. Include the bylaws requirements for absentee  
> ballots.
>
> 4.0 Absentee Ballots
> 4.1 Absentee ballots will be allowed for election of officers,  
> change of
> bylaws, change of dues or issues referred by the board to the general
> membership for a vote using a preprinted ballot. Preprinted ballots  
> will be
> published in the Cosmic Messenger or sent by special mailing.
> 4.2 Absentee ballots must be in a signed sealed envelope and received
> before the polls are closed to be valid.
> 4.3 Absentee ballots must clearly indicate the choices of the voter.
> 4.4 Under no conditions will proxy votes be allowed.
>
> Let's have the membership mail their absentee ballots to the post  
> office
> box and state that they must arrive by Saturday, the 24th of March.  
> I'll
> check the post office on Saturday afternoon before the meeting.
>
> Let me know if you need anything else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gary
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Marcia Young <mryoung@...>  
> wrote:
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>> Let's make the March deadline Wednesday, Feb. 28, please.
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>> Any one have anything to contribute?
>>
>> Thanks, Marcia
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> -- 
> Clear skies,
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> Gary Pittman
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Yes, I will have copies available at the DSS next month for everyone. 



-Scott 



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From: "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@comcast.net> 
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:26:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: New file uploaded to ASKC 

  




Scott: 

Will you have any copies at the DSS next month? 

Jim 
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From: "stripe1966" < s.kranz1@... > 
To: < ASKC@yahoogroups.com > 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:32 AM 
Subject: [ASKC] Re: New file uploaded to ASKC 

>I had several requests tonight for the Messier Marathon logsheet. It is now 
>available in the "Files" section. 
> -Scott 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com , ASKC@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> This email message is a notification to let you know that 
>> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
>> group. 
>> 
>> File : /Messier Marathon record log 2012.pdf 
>> Uploaded by : stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...> 
>> Description : Messier Marathon logsheet 
>> 
>> You can access this file at the URL: 
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/Messier%20Marathon%20record%20log%202012.pdf 
>> 
>> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: 
>> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> stripe1966 <s.kranz1@...> 
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I just attended the open house for the S W High School's (Kansas City School
District) new Spitz Scidome XD.  This is in the planetarium building at
appx. 65th & Wornall.
This facility is now called the Panterra Theatre.

It has full 3-d capability.  Several clips were shown to guests including a
couple of planetary clips.  They have 9 canned programs listed for the
Universe, 3 for Earth Systems, and programs titled Energy & Matter and
Living Organisms- it spans several areas of science-- real exciting!!

The old planetarium has been closed for about 4 years so this is a major
step forward.

I introduced myself to both the director of the facility and the operations
director and gave each an askc brochure and my contact information.

I told them of our past involvement with the planetarium when Bob Riddle was
there, and they were real excited when I told them that perhaps occasionally
we could set up telescopes for solar observing etc. when they schedule
public events.  Also without prompting they brought up the idea of having
one of our general meetings there.  

Priority-wise for reservations, KC district students will use it first, then
other area districts, businesses, then the general public.

They are advertising this as the second of its kind in the world at the
present time.  The images & accoustics were outstanding.

For more information refer to the website:www.Kcpublicschools.org/Panterra.

Carroll Iorg,
President, Astronomical League 
www.astroleague.org



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Private group  JCCC astro class
Friday March 2, 2012
6:00 pm - 11:00 pm

Notes:
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Jay Manifold


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off site Oark Park Carpenter Elementary
Thursday March 1, 2012
6:00 pm - 8:00 pm

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Must have missed this. I can be there with my scope.  Pete

After the January general meeting I made an idle suggestion that maybe it 
would be a good idea to add an article to the ASKC website - that old 
pamphlet we made up years ago titled "Choosing a Telescope". My mistake was 
saying this to Rita Wright and Pat Gruenke. Rita immediately handed me a 
copy of the pamphlet, and Pat said to go for it!

Anyway, I have typed the text into a Word document. I remember working on 
this back years ago, but do not really remember who else was involved for 
certain.

It has aged relatively well. However, in my opinion, it definitely needs to 
be updated, and I think new graphics would be a very good idea.

I think I might have some drawings that would work for some of it, but would 
like help in the text revision and additional graphics. We will need to be 
careful of copyright on graphics.  Not my area of knowledge!

So, if anyone is interested in helping, I can post a copy of the text in 
.doc format to the files area, or send a copy via e-mail.

I can scan in the pages that have the graphics for ideas and such, but will 
do that only if I get a volunteer or two or three to help.

Pat is always looking for content for the website, and this may be a good 
addition if we get it updated.

Thanks,

Kathy Machin

Carroll:

Spitz contacted me some time ago about Powell how the would like to work 
with us on installing planetarium equipment .  Yes, I was polite to 
them.  I didn't want to!  This was about the when Bob was fired by the 
KCSD.  As I was told by Bob, the super of the district was touring SWHS 
when he told Bob to demo the equipment for installation a new system by 
Spitz.   Bob then contacted me about the ASKC getting the equipment 
which was followed up a few days later to inform me that the district 
wanted to keep it as a display.  Morons!  The existing equipment seemed 
to work fine and produce some good show.  I didn't really understand the 
need to replace it.  Two weeks later, Bob was fired to reduce cost and 
staff!  Rita and I, along with other members of the ASKC, did in fact do 
about four or five events at SWHS.

Interestingly, the school district has gone through two rounds of hiring 
a planetarium person.

By the way, as a comparison, Michigan state has about 34 planetariums in 
schools!

So, where do people in and around Kansas City, or visiting to go to get 
an astronomer (amateur/professional) doing a planetarium program?  
Rhetorical in nature.

Just some more info,

Joe

This is the backup night for last Friday. Since we were able to have the class then, this night will not be needed.

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I already deleted the reservation.

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We have a school night on the schedule for this Tuesday, March 1. One
volunteer so far.

We also have several private nights in March. Take a look at the calendar
and let me know if you can help out with one of these.


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I will also be there with a scope.
                                                John

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Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 7:28 PM
















 



  


    
      
      
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Well, I know I have made this gig in the past, but that is our son's 
birthday, so we are going out for dinner with the kids.

I hope the weather is good for you.

Joe

I am happy that the planetarium is operational.  How ever, it disturbs 
me with the process they went through.

The Greater Kansas City Area really has an astronomy defect and we need 
to fill this void.  Who else is better to present the sky (day or night) 
to the public?

We do provide a good service, don't doubt this!

Just my thoughts.

Joe

David,

Tuesday, March 1?  Are you using that Mayan calendar again?

My calendar doesn't show a Tuesday, March 1, but it does continue on after December 21st so I suspect it's not baktun approved.

Rick Henderson


---- David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote: 
> We have a school night on the schedule for this Tuesday, March 1. One
> volunteer so far.
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> We also have several private nights in March. Take a look at the calendar
> and let me know if you can help out with one of these.
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> 

My poor telescope gathered dust in my basement for months. I think the last time I had it out and on the tripod was last May or June.  I finally lugged it back upstairs this past week and enjoyed some early evening observing of Venus and Jupiter.  However, as usual, I'm frustrated with my surroundings (my backyard, trees, houses and light pollution in Lansing).  

Since I joined ASKC last March or April, I've attended a couple of meetings, but haven't participated much, mostly because of the cost of gasoline (it's a long way to UMKC let along Powell and even further to the DSS from where I live).  But with Mars at opposition this weekend, I might throw everything in the trunk of the car and head south.  Will anyone else be down at the Observatory this Saturday?  I don't know if I can find the codes or combinations to unlock the facilities among the materials originally sent me (and I'm not sure if they would still be valid).  I do not want to use any of the equipment on site, but would benefit from the wisdom of others I'm sure.  

Thanks for your time, 

Jon

My used ETX-90 came with a 497 Autostar, but I have not been successful in updating it's database.  To be completely honest, I haven't tried that hard, mostly because all my computers no longer have serial connectors (just USB).  

Does anyone else own an Autostar that is up-to-date?  And if so, would they mind cloning to my Autostar?  

That seems to be the easiest way to get it updated (as opposed to the multitude of updates spanning several years I'd have to wade through).  

Normally I'm not this technically challenged (I work in IT for a living), but this device is pushing my buttons. :)

Thanks, 

Jon Moss

Hello Jon! 



Do you plan to go to Powell in Louisburg, KS, where our observatory is located, or the Dark Sky Site, west of Butler, MO? As far as the DSS, I don't know if anyone will be down there since this weekend is a few days past First Quarter. Moonset isn't till 3:15am early Saturday morning and even later early Sunday morning. As far as the Mars opposition, a few weeks before or after isn't going to matter a whole lot. The closest approach isn't till actually March 13 or 14. 



If you are wanting others down there with you, you might want to wait till the New Moon weekend of March 23-24 when we will be holding our annual Messier Marathon at the DSS. If the weather is good, there is bound to be 20-30 people down then. 



Even the weekend before, March 16-17 should be pretty nice with the Moon not rising till 4:30am CDT Saturday morning and 5:05am CDT Sunday morning. If the weather cooperates, I might even be going down that weekend as well. 



-Scott 



  



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From: "mossjon" <mossjon@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:56:00 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Trying to be a more active astronomer and member. 

  




My poor telescope gathered dust in my basement for months. I think the last time I had it out and on the tripod was last May or June. I finally lugged it back upstairs this past week and enjoyed some early evening observing of Venus and Jupiter. However, as usual, I'm frustrated with my surroundings (my backyard, trees, houses and light pollution in Lansing). 

Since I joined ASKC last March or April, I've attended a couple of meetings, but haven't participated much, mostly because of the cost of gasoline (it's a long way to UMKC let along Powell and even further to the DSS from where I live). But with Mars at opposition this weekend, I might throw everything in the trunk of the car and head south. Will anyone else be down at the Observatory this Saturday? I don't know if I can find the codes or combinations to unlock the facilities among the materials originally sent me (and I'm not sure if they would still be valid). I do not want to use any of the equipment on site, but would benefit from the wisdom of others I'm sure. 

Thanks for your time, 

Jon 




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I should have been more specific.  I meant Powell.  It's closer to me.  I don't know if I could even find the DSS and I don't have any camping equipment (yet).  

I'll hold off a week or two.  The Messier Marathon sounds fun too!

Thanks for the quick response!

Jon

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, s.kranz1@... wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hello Jon! 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you plan to go to Powell in Louisburg, KS, where our observatory is located, or the Dark Sky Site, west of Butler, MO? As far as the DSS, I don't know if anyone will be down there since this weekend is a few days past First Quarter. Moonset isn't till 3:15am early Saturday morning and even later early Sunday morning. As far as the Mars opposition, a few weeks before or after isn't going to matter a whole lot. The closest approach isn't till actually March 13 or 14. 
> 
> 
> 
> If you are wanting others down there with you, you might want to wait till the New Moon weekend of March 23-24 when we will be holding our annual Messier Marathon at the DSS. If the weather is good, there is bound to be 20-30 people down then. 
> 
> 
> 
> Even the weekend before, March 16-17 should be pretty nice with the Moon not rising till 4:30am CDT Saturday morning and 5:05am CDT Sunday morning. If the weather cooperates, I might even be going down that weekend as well. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 

Hello Jon, also!

 

Scott already gave you the info on the DSS so I thought I'd update you on Powell.

 

There isn't anything scheduled for this weekend at Powell due to we're still finishing up a bunch of electrical and electronic work getting everything ready for the upcoming public season.  I don't know for certain if any members will be using the grounds at Powell either, but the Yahoo groups is a good place to ask around.

 

As for Powell, and if you're really wanting to become more involved, you can let either me or Steve King know if you're interested in either joining one of the public season presentation teams or if you'd like to take training to become a key holder for Powell.  

 

Being a keyholder adds both benefits and responsibilities.  For the benefits, you go through training and earn a key to the observatory which includes the Ruisinger 30" and the Astro Imaging Center.  It also requires you to join a public team, although you don't have to be a keyholder to join a team, and you also are asked to be a member of a duty pair for private reservations at Powell about 2-3 times per year maximum.

 

As for just getting your telescope out and chasing down some photons, as Scott mentioned, the Messier Marathon is coming up in three+ weeks and, if you keep checking the Yahoo groups you might find out if anyone will be at Powell as well.

 

Let us know if you have more questions.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of s.kranz1@...
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 1:19 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Trying to be a more active astronomer and member.

 

  



Hello Jon! 

Do you plan to go to Powell in Louisburg, KS, where our observatory is located, or the Dark Sky Site, west of Butler, MO? As far as the DSS, I don't know if anyone will be down there since this weekend is a few days past First Quarter. Moonset isn't till 3:15am early Saturday morning and even later early Sunday morning. As far as the Mars opposition, a few weeks before or after isn't going to matter a whole lot. The closest approach isn't till actually March 13 or 14. 

If you are wanting others down there with you, you might want to wait till the New Moon weekend of March 23-24 when we will be holding our annual Messier Marathon at the DSS. If the weather is good, there is bound to be 20-30 people down then. 

Even the weekend before, March 16-17 should be pretty nice with the Moon not rising till 4:30am CDT Saturday morning and 5:05am CDT Sunday morning. If the weather cooperates, I might even be going down that weekend as well. 

-Scott 

  

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From: "mossjon" <mossjon@... <mailto:mossjon%40yahoo.com> > 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 12:56:00 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Trying to be a more active astronomer and member. 

  

My poor telescope gathered dust in my basement for months. I think the last time I had it out and on the tripod was last May or June. I finally lugged it back upstairs this past week and enjoyed some early evening observing of Venus and Jupiter. However, as usual, I'm frustrated with my surroundings (my backyard, trees, houses and light pollution in Lansing). 

Since I joined ASKC last March or April, I've attended a couple of meetings, but haven't participated much, mostly because of the cost of gasoline (it's a long way to UMKC let along Powell and even further to the DSS from where I live). But with Mars at opposition this weekend, I might throw everything in the trunk of the car and head south. Will anyone else be down at the Observatory this Saturday? I don't know if I can find the codes or combinations to unlock the facilities among the materials originally sent me (and I'm not sure if they would still be valid). I do not want to use any of the equipment on site, but would benefit from the wisdom of others I'm sure. 

Thanks for your time, 

Jon 

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Thanks, Rick, for the information on Powell.  

I don't know if I'm ready to be a keyholder yet.  Heck, I can hardly run my own old telescope, let alone any of the ones at Powell!  

What do you have the most need for?  The public program team or the private party hosting?  How long and/or when does training take place?  

My husband is disabled, so I could only commit to one or two trips a month down to Powell. 

Thanks again.  

Jon

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon, also!
> 
>  
> 
> Scott already gave you the info on the DSS so I thought I'd update you on Powell.
> 
>  
> 
> There isn't anything scheduled for this weekend at Powell due to we're still finishing up a bunch of electrical and electronic work getting everything ready for the upcoming public season.  I don't know for certain if any members will be using the grounds at Powell either, but the Yahoo groups is a good place to ask around.
> 
>  
> 
> As for Powell, and if you're really wanting to become more involved, you can let either me or Steve King know if you're interested in either joining one of the public season presentation teams or if you'd like to take training to become a key holder for Powell.  
> 
>  
> 
> Being a keyholder adds both benefits and responsibilities.  For the benefits, you go through training and earn a key to the observatory which includes the Ruisinger 30" and the Astro Imaging Center.  It also requires you to join a public team, although you don't have to be a keyholder to join a team, and you also are asked to be a member of a duty pair for private reservations at Powell about 2-3 times per year maximum.
> 
>  
> 
> As for just getting your telescope out and chasing down some photons, as Scott mentioned, the Messier Marathon is coming up in three+ weeks and, if you keep checking the Yahoo groups you might find out if anyone will be at Powell as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Let us know if you have more questions.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 

Hello Jon,

 

I completely understand and there is not any pressure for any member to do
more than they are comfortable, able and willing to do.

 

The Powell public program teams are probably where additional volunteers are
needed most.  There are 7 teams and, starting the first Saturday in May,
they rotate one team per week, hosting the public on Saturday nights.  The
teams have room for people of all skill and experience levels and is a good
way to meet other members of the ASKC.  Also, it's a good opportunity to
talk with other members about your own scope, what you're having trouble
with and learn about things to look at in the night sky.

 

So, again, no pressure, but if you like working with the public and other
ASKC members, it's a good way.  Just let us know on the Yahoo groups.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mossjon
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:08 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Trying to be a more active astronomer and member.

 

  

Thanks, Rick, for the information on Powell. 

I don't know if I'm ready to be a keyholder yet. Heck, I can hardly run my
own old telescope, let alone any of the ones at Powell! 

What do you have the most need for? The public program team or the private
party hosting? How long and/or when does training take place? 

My husband is disabled, so I could only commit to one or two trips a month
down to Powell. 

Thanks again. 

Jon

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon, also!
> 
> 
> 
> Scott already gave you the info on the DSS so I thought I'd update you on
Powell.
> 
> 
> 
> There isn't anything scheduled for this weekend at Powell due to we're
still finishing up a bunch of electrical and electronic work getting
everything ready for the upcoming public season. I don't know for certain if
any members will be using the grounds at Powell either, but the Yahoo groups
is a good place to ask around.
> 
> 
> 
> As for Powell, and if you're really wanting to become more involved, you
can let either me or Steve King know if you're interested in either joining
one of the public season presentation teams or if you'd like to take
training to become a key holder for Powell. 
> 
> 
> 
> Being a keyholder adds both benefits and responsibilities. For the
benefits, you go through training and earn a key to the observatory which
includes the Ruisinger 30" and the Astro Imaging Center. It also requires
you to join a public team, although you don't have to be a keyholder to join
a team, and you also are asked to be a member of a duty pair for private
reservations at Powell about 2-3 times per year maximum.
> 
> 
> 
> As for just getting your telescope out and chasing down some photons, as
Scott mentioned, the Messier Marathon is coming up in three+ weeks and, if
you keep checking the Yahoo groups you might find out if anyone will be at
Powell as well.
> 
> 
> 
> Let us know if you have more questions.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
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> 





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Well, then, sign me up for a public team.  It sounds like a seven week rotation.  My only caveat would be my unavailability the weekend of May 12, as I will be in North Texas for my daughter's college graduation.  

Let me know when the training is.  

Thanks, 

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
> 
>  
> 
> I completely understand and there is not any pressure for any member to do
> more than they are comfortable, able and willing to do.
> 
>  
> 
> The Powell public program teams are probably where additional volunteers are
> needed most.  There are 7 teams and, starting the first Saturday in May,
> they rotate one team per week, hosting the public on Saturday nights.  The
> teams have room for people of all skill and experience levels and is a good
> way to meet other members of the ASKC.  Also, it's a good opportunity to
> talk with other members about your own scope, what you're having trouble
> with and learn about things to look at in the night sky.
> 
>  
> 
> So, again, no pressure, but if you like working with the public and other
> ASKC members, it's a good way.  Just let us know on the Yahoo groups.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
>  
> 

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For those ASKC members attending this Sunday's event at the Gramercy Park clubhouse be aware of some possible traffic hassles on I-435 -- see the note below (copied from OP's website):

"Demolition work on the northbound Quivira bridge will commence at 8 p.m. Saturday, March 3, weather permitting. This requires that I-435 traffic in all directions will be closed at 8 p.m. I-435 is expected to reopen no later than 2 p.m. Sunday, March 4.

"Construction crews are putting down several feet of dirt and sand below the bridge to protect I-435 and expedite debris removal. Explosives will be used on bridge columns to bring them down onto the highway.

"Alternate suggested routes for eastbound I-435 include going north on I-35 to 87th Street, east to U.S. 69, south to I-435 and then east. Westbound I-435 traffic should go north on U.S. 69 to 87th Street, west to I-35, south on I-35 to westbound I-435."

What this means is you may run into heavy traffic on I-435, 69, 87th and 95th unless work is completed before the 2pm Sunday target.  Or unless plans change.

Dave Brackey

I can make the March 1 event seeing as it's only a mile from where I live.  No scope but can wander around reasonably well.  Is the school having the full science fair that time as well??

Dave Brackey


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> We have a school night on the schedule for this Tuesday, March 1. One
> volunteer so far.
> 
> We also have several private nights in March. Take a look at the calendar
> and let me know if you can help out with one of these.
> 
> 
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For a nominal price at Radio Shack, you can buy a USB to serial connector  
and related software.  Mine works fine.  
Tim Kristl
 
 
In a message dated 2/27/2012 1:09:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
mossjon@... writes:

 
 
 
My used ETX-90 came with a 497 Autostar, but I have not been successful in  
updating it's database. To be completely honest, I haven't tried that hard, 
 mostly because all my computers no longer have serial connectors (just 
USB).  

Does anyone else own an Autostar that is up-to-date? And if so, would  they 
mind cloning to my Autostar? 

That seems to be the easiest way to  get it updated (as opposed to the 
multitude of updates spanning several years  I'd have to wade through). 

Normally I'm not this technically  challenged (I work in IT for a living), 
but this device is pushing my buttons.  :)

Thanks, 

Jon Moss






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several years ago I called Meade & they said send it in - hand  controller 
for (my ETX 90) & they would do it - I sent - They  returned a brand new one 
 Ha!  ...  as a newbie - love the hand  controller that gave info on what I 
was looking at!
Mike Sterling
816-616-6475
 
 

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run your security checks - my emails were hacked/hijacked - mine all  clear 
now, but run yours...  sorry
Mike Sterling

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I'd have to think about that one...... sounds awefully tempting. 



Where is it that the club meets at? 



We typically stay at the Fremont Holiday Inn Express when we go up to visit Cindy's family. They are scattered around the Cedar Bluffs and Wahoo area. 



-scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "george allen" <geonjod@...> 
To: "askcyahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:42:30 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] Talk? 

  




Scott, is there a chance you could give a program/talk on Arp Galaxies or just deep sky observing at a meeting of the Omaha Astro Society? Would a meal afterwards, overnight accommodations and at least gas money be tempting? I hope so. 




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The last time I called Meade about the ETX-90 and the Autostar (last summer I think), they no longer supported maintenance on the scope so I doubt they'd be willing to do anything with my Autostar.  But I can give them a call and find out for sure.  

I like the Autostar, not so much for the 'Go To' features as the slewing (keeping an object centered in the eyepiece).  I usually know what I want to observe and already have 'found' it's general neighborhood in the sky.  The Autostar gets the scope close, and then I use the finder scopes to fine tune.  I have yet to successfully completely align the ETX-90, so the Autostar is just a handy tool to get me in the ballpark.  

Thanks again, 

Jon

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, mikekansascity@... wrote:
>
> several years ago I called Meade & they said send it in - hand  controller 
> for (my ETX 90) & they would do it - I sent - They  returned a brand new one 
>  Ha!  ...  as a newbie - love the hand  controller that gave info on what I 
> was looking at!
> Mike Sterling
> 816-616-6475
>  
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I just scheduled and event in Odessa for July 27.  Telescopes only at a
park. Cancel if bad weather. Avoid the rush volunteer now!


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The ASKC's 8" dobsonian is now available for loan. If you would like to
borrow it please contact me or Don Grodeki.


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Since I live in Odessa, count me in.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
Subject: [ASKC] off site in Odessa


>I just scheduled and event in Odessa for July 27.  Telescopes only at a
> park. Cancel if bad weather. Avoid the rush volunteer now!
> 
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>

and then there was one:-)

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Jim Ketchum <suenjim@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Since I live in Odessa, count me in.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM
> Subject: [ASKC] off site in Odessa
>
> >I just scheduled and event in Odessa for July 27. Telescopes only at a
> > park. Cancel if bad weather. Avoid the rush volunteer now!
> >
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 I can help with this, no room for the StarLab.

David Neuenschwander



 


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We meet at univ of nebr at Omaha, first Friday 7:30 pm.  You could stay with jodee and I (we have a guest room with bath, queen bed, shower, separate entrance, in the country) or we could get the club to swing for a moderate motel.  

Fremont is 45 miles the wrong way but we might go for a local Express.  We use them ourselves when traveling without the RV.

The date is uncertain but would be no sooner than April 6.

On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:21 AM, s.kranz1@... wrote:

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> 
> I'd have to think about that one...... sounds awefully tempting. 
> 
> 
> 
> Where is it that the club meets at? 
> 
> 
> 
> We typically stay at the Fremont Holiday Inn Express when we go up to visit Cindy's family. They are scattered around the Cedar Bluffs and Wahoo area. 
> 
> 
> 
> -scott 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> 
> From: "george allen" <geonjod@...> 
> To: "askcyahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:42:30 PM 
> Subject: [ASKC] Talk? 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Scott, is there a chance you could give a program/talk on Arp Galaxies or just deep sky observing at a meeting of the Omaha Astro Society? Would a meal afterwards, overnight accommodations and at least gas money be tempting? I hope so. 
> 
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<p>I'm only 20 miles away, so I'm about 80% sure I can help.<br>
Keith<br><br><br></p>
<p>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</p>


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Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?

Thanks,

Joe

What is the equivalent increase in aperture gained by using UHTC?  How much would that much more actual aperture cost you?  Generally, the answer is 'yes' it's worth it.  At least that's what my previous research told me five years ago when shopping for a new scope.  But $900 sounds maybe a little steep. ?? 
Find the answers to the above two questions and decide from there.

just my thoughts,
Grant Miller



--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:
>
> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
> if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

The only benefit I can think of would be to shorten the exposure time 
required for the light pollution to fill the camera's chip.

Are you using a light-pollution blocking filter?

Roger

At 13:18 2012-02-29, you wrote:
>
>
>Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area
>if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe


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Joe,
 
Check the fine print.
 
The cost for the UHTC may also include an extra cost for premium coatings on the mirrors.
 
Joel Falk

--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:


From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
Subject: [ASKC] UHTC Coatings or Not
To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>, "LX200GPS" <LX200GPS@yahoogroups.com>, Observatories@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 1:18 PM



  



Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?

Thanks,

Joe







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Here is a simple test to learn if super coatings are for you.  First, read the literature to see what percent they increase transmission of light.  Second, while observing a difficult object at night, cover that percentage of your objective.  Can you detect a difference?  Try the same test using a CCD imaging device.  Did it matter?  And then there is the question of what $900 might do for you applied elsewhere.  




On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
> if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Here is an interesting review.  Take it for what it's worth:
http://www.my-spot.com/uhtc-old-ota.htm

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
>To: ASKC Yahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; LX200GPS <LX200GPS@yahoogroups.com>; Observatories@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] UHTC Coatings or Not
> 
>
>  
>Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
>if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe
>
> 
>
>

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Joe,

I would think it depends largely on the aperture
of the scope you're talking about. For one of 6
to 8 inches, definitely not. For one in the 20"
and larger range, maybe so...

-John C


--- Joseph Wright wrote:
>
> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it
> in a light polluted area if the scope is used
> both observational and ccd imaging?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
>

Joel,

I thought that UHTC already meant premium coatings
on the mirror (Ultra High Transmission Coatings).
Am I mistaken, or confused as to your meaning?

-John C


--- Joel Falk wrote:
>
> Joe,
> Check the fine print.
> The cost for the UHTC may also include an extra
> cost for premium coatings on the mirrors.
> Joel Falk
> 

> --- Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it
> in a light polluted area if the scope is used
> both observational and ccd imaging?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe

Here is a good article by a seller of Meade products:

Meade Ultra High Transmission Coatings (UHTC) Group

An important optional feature to optimize the performace of your Meade telescope. What is it and is it worth it?
As you may have noticed you have a choice to make when buying many of the popular Meade telescopes. Standard Coatings or UHTC Coatings. The price difference on the same telescope can be between 50 and 350 dollars more for UHTC Coatings depending on the model telescope. Is it really worth it? YES! Our sales history shows UHTC outsells the Standard Coatings models  about 20:1.  Is this a sales pitch?  Yes it is.  We want you to purchase the UHTC Coatings option - we want you to see as much as possible - we want you to get the most from your new telescope.
If you have read our article, "How To Select Your First Telescope" or are a seasoned amateur astronomer, you know that the function of a telescope is to gather light.  Telescopes have lenses and or mirrors that cause the telescope to naturally loose light through reflectivity  and transmission.  Better lens coatings  make a difference - a noticeable difference.  For visual observation, objects such as star clusters will be brighter and show more detail.  Deep  space nebule are already faint in telescopes, your UHTC coated telescope will allow you to see them better.  Plantary detail on Jupiter will yield a higher contrast image and more red details.  A simple Google search for "Meade UHTC Coatings" and you can read many users who praise the UHTC group as a "no brainer".
If you have any thought of doing astrophotography with your new Meade telescope, the UHTC again will make a substantial difference. More detail with less exposure time. Better resolution and higher contrast.
You can read technical babble about UHTC (dont worry, we provided it below). You can read about nanometers and emission line information for % increase on each - if you want (yes, its all down below) but to keep it simple, Meade telescopes with UHTC perform better. UHTC Coatings is equivalent to adding 1/4 to 1 inch of aperture depending on the size of the telescope. For example, image brightness of the 10 inch LX200 GPS effectively increased by about 0.75 inch of aperture.
Here is some more information on UHTC Coatings for your reading pleasure.
Image brightness in a telescope is crucially dependent on the reflectivity of the telescope's mirrors and on the transmission of its lenses. Neither of these processes, mirror-reflectivity or lens-transmission, is perfect.  Light loss occurs in each instance where light is reflected or transmitted.  Uncoated glass for example, reflects about 4% of the light impacting it.  In the case of an uncoated lens 4% of the light is lost at entrance to and at exit from the lens, for a total light loss of about 8%.
Early reflecting telescopes of the 1700's and 1800's suffered greatly from mirrors of poor reflectivity - reflection losses of 50% or more were not uncommon.  Later, silvered mirrors improved reflectivity, but at high cost and with poor durability.  Modern optical coatings have succeeded in reducing mirror-reflection and lens-transmission losses to acceptable levels at reasonable cost.

Each time light encounters a mirror (above) or lens (below) surface, some light is lost.  In the case of a lens, light is lost both at entrance to and at exit from the lens.
Meade Standard Coatings:  The optical surfaces of all Meade telescopes include high-grade optical coatings fully consistent in quality with the precision of the optical surfaces themselves.  These standard-equipment coatings include mirror surfaces of highly purified aluminum, vacuum-deposited at high temperature and overcoated with silicon monoxide (SiO), and correcting lenses coated on both sides for high light transmission with magnesium fluoride (MgF2).  Meade standard mirror and lens coatings equal or exceed the reflectivity and transmission, respectively, or virtually any optical coatings currently offered in the commercial telescope industry.
The Meade UHTC Group:  Technologies recently developed at Meade Irvine coatings facility, however, including installation of some of the largest most advanced vacuum coating instrumentation currently available, have permitted the vacuum-deposition of a series of exotic optical coatings precisely tuned to optimize the visual, photographic and CCD imaging performace of Meade telescopes.  These specialized, and extremely advantageous, coatings are offered here as the Meade Ultra-High Transmission Coatings (UHTC) group, a coatings group available optionally on many Meade telescope models.
In Meade catadioptric, or mirror-lens, telescopes (including the ETX90, ETX105, and ETX125; LXD75, LX90, LX200, LX200R and RCX400) before incoming light is brought to a focus, it passes through, or is reflected by, four optical surfaces:  the front surface of the correcting lens, the rear surface of the correcting lens, the primary mirror, and the secondary mirror.  Each of these four surfaces results in some loss of light, with the level of loss being dependent on the chemistry of each surface's optical coatings and on the wavelength of light.
Mirror Coatings:  Meade ETX, Schmidt-Cassegrain, and Schmidt-Newtonian telescopes equipped with the Ultra-High Transmission Coatings group include primary and secondary mirros coated with aluminum enhanced with a complex stack of multi-layer coatings of titanium dioxide (TiO2) and silicon dioxide (Si02).  The thickness of each coating layer is precisely controlled to within 1% of optimal thickness.  The resul is a dramatic increase in mirror reflectivity across the entire visible spectrum. 
Correcting Lens Coatings:  Meade telescopes ordered with the UHTC group include, in addition, an exotic and tightly-controlled series of coatings on both sides of the correcting lens or correcting plate, coatings which include multiple layers of aluminum oxide (AI2O3), titanium dioxide (TiO2), and magnesium fluoride (MgF2).  Per-serface light transmission of the correcting lens is thereby increased at the yellow wavelength of 580nm, for example, to 99.8%, versus a per-surface transmission of 98.7% for the standard coating.
The importance of the UHTC group becomes apparent when comparing total telescope light transmission, or throughput, caused by the multiplier, or compounding, effect of the four optical surfaces.  With each optical surface contributing significantly to telescope light throughput, the effect of all four surfaces combined is indeed dramatic.  At the H-a wavelengh of 656nm, total transmission increases from 76.7% to 88.5%, an increase of 15.4%.  At the helium wavelengths of 588nm. and 469nm - stron emission lines in hot planetary nebule - total telescope transmission increases by 13.8% and 16.8%, respectively, at the two nitrogen II lines of 655nm and 658nm and at the sulfur II line of 673nm, transmission is increased by 16%.  Averaged over the entire visuble spectrum (450nm to 700nm) total light transmission to the telescope focus increased by about 15%.
Observing with the UHTC Coatings:  Meade ETX, Schmidt-Cassegrain, and Schmidt-Newtonian telescopes equipped with the UHTC present dramatically brighter images on the full range of celestial objects - from emission and planetary nebulae such as M8, M20, and M57 to star clusters and galaxies such as M3, M13, and M101.  Observations of the Moon and planets, since they are observed in reflected (white) sunlight, benefit in image brightness from the full spectrum of increased transmission. 
Emission Line	Wavelength (nm)	Transmission: Standard Coatings (%)	Transmission UHTC Group (%)	Increase
Hydrogen-alpha (Ha)	656	76.7	88.46	15.33%
Hydrogen-beta (Hb)	486	76.8	89.22	16.17%
Oxygen III	496	77.6	89.78	15.7%
Oxygen III	501	77.9	88.98	15.51%
Helium II	469	75	87.63	16.84%
Helium I	588	79.2	90.1	13.76%
Nitrogen II	655	76.7	88.5	15.38%
Nitrogen II	658	76.6	88.39	15.39%
Sulfur II	673	75.7	87.79	15.97%
The overall effect of the UHTC is, as it relates to image brightness, to increase the telescope's effective aperture.  Image brighness of the Meade 10" LX200GPS is, for example, effectively increased by about 0.75 inch of aperture.
Ordering the UHTC Coatings:  The Meade Ultra-High Transmission Coatings group, if desired, must be specified at the time of telescope purchase.  The UHTC Coatings can not be retrofitted.  The UHTC Coatings are available for many Meade telescopes such as the Meade ETX, LX90GPS, LX200 GPS, LX200R GPS, and RCX400.

On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...> wrote:

> Here is an interesting review.  Take it for what it's worth:
> http://www.my-spot.com/uhtc-old-ota.htm
> 
>  
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
>> To: ASKC Yahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>; LX200GPS <LX200GPS@yahoogroups.com>; Observatories@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>> Subject: [ASKC] UHTC Coatings or Not
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it in a light polluted area 
>> if the scope is used both observational and ccd imaging?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Consider that in your telescope system, each time the light passes through glass or reflects from a mirror, there is a loss of light.  It should pay to reduce such passes and reflectances.  Maybe this is why imaging produces such brilliant results, there are very few surfaces involved, compared to looking into the system.  A refractor would have just the objective elements.  

It may also mean that using a very simple EP with just two elements will produce brighter views than, say, a 10 element EP.  Figures I see give between 1% and 4% loss per surface.  Wonder where I can get a super coated Ramsden?  After all, EP defects are near non-existent on axis.  Elaborate designs only improve the outer part of the field.  The most expensive medical microscope EP's are sometimes Huygen's.    

John,
 
What I mean is make sure you know exactly what you getting (i.e., do assume anything).  The word transmission is usually used to say pass through and not necessarily relate to mirror.  Also, make sure the combination of lense and mirror coatings makes proper sense for the intended use.
 
The post by George Allen help to clearify things but one needs to make sure the information is current.
 
The coatings may impact light gathering ability, but resolution is based upon size and would therefore not change.
 
Joel Falk
--- On Wed, 2/29/12, skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...> wrote:


From: skygazer1956 <John.Cravens@...>
Subject: [ASKC] Re: UHTC Coatings or Not
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 29, 2012, 7:35 PM



  



Joel,

I thought that UHTC already meant premium coatings
on the mirror (Ultra High Transmission Coatings).
Am I mistaken, or confused as to your meaning?

-John C

--- Joel Falk wrote:
>
> Joe,
> Check the fine print.
> The cost for the UHTC may also include an extra
> cost for premium coatings on the mirrors.
> Joel Falk
> 

> --- Joseph Wright wrote:
> 
> Is the $900 additional cost for UHTC worth it
> in a light polluted area if the scope is used
> both observational and ccd imaging?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe








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Joel,

I see what you mean. "Transmission" may or may
not apply to coatings on the mirror, only to
lenses in the system. Thanks for clarifying.

-John C


--- Joel Falk wrote:
>
> John,
> 
> What I mean is make sure you know exactly what
> you getting (i.e., do assume anything). The word
> transmission is usually used to say pass through
> and not necessarily relate to mirror. Also, make
> sure the combination of lense and mirror coatings
> makes proper sense for the intended use.
> ...
> Joel Falk

> --- John Cravens wrote:
> 
> Joel,
> 
> I thought that UHTC already meant premium coatings
> on the mirror (Ultra High Transmission Coatings).
> Am I mistaken, or confused as to your meaning?
> 
> -John C
> 

The vendor's web site was misleading and left a couple of questions to 
be answered.  The image associated with the scope showed a complete OTA 
and fork mounting.  The pricing list had indicated it was without 
coatings.  The next line item quoted the scope with UHTC coatings, fork 
mount and no tripod for an additional $900.  It just seemed odd!  So, I 
wanted some knowledge from you hard core observers and imagers.

As I suspected, but wanted confirmed from the supplier, the additional 
$900 was indeed for the fork assembly and just not for the coatings.

Since this is info for the purchase of the Warko 14" in heavy light 
pollution, we (Dan and I) wondered if the $900 would be better spent 
towards enhanced equipment and not the coatings.  So, we get the 
coatings as the standard production run off the line.

The articles were interesting.

Thanks,

Joe

What mount (fork or german equatorial? )and what camera are you wanting to get (color or monochrome?).

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
>To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 11:16 AM
>Subject: [ASKC] UHTC Coatings Mystery Solved
> 
>
>  
>The vendor's web site was misleading and left a couple of questions to 
>be answered.  The image associated with the scope showed a complete OTA 
>and fork mounting.  The pricing list had indicated it was without 
>coatings.  The next line item quoted the scope with UHTC coatings, fork 
>mount and no tripod for an additional $900.  It just seemed odd!  So, I 
>wanted some knowledge from you hard core observers and imagers.
>
>As I suspected, but wanted confirmed from the supplier, the additional 
>$900 was indeed for the fork assembly and just not for the coatings.
>
>Since this is info for the purchase of the Warko 14" in heavy light 
>pollution, we (Dan and I) wondered if the $900 would be better spent 
>towards enhanced equipment and not the coatings.  So, we get the 
>coatings as the standard production run off the line.
>
>The articles were interesting.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joe
>
> 
>
>

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I'm spending some quality time at the DMV registering the new car. They
said the wait time would be 1.5 hours when I got here. It's been two hours
so far. I've been to radio shack, a donut shop and a motor cycle store.
Only another half hour or so. I like the text messaging deal they have set
up so you don' t have to sit around!
On Mar 1, 2012 11:16 AM, "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> The vendor's web site was misleading and left a couple of questions to
> be answered. The image associated with the scope showed a complete OTA
> and fork mounting. The pricing list had indicated it was without
> coatings. The next line item quoted the scope with UHTC coatings, fork
> mount and no tripod for an additional $900. It just seemed odd! So, I
> wanted some knowledge from you hard core observers and imagers.
>
> As I suspected, but wanted confirmed from the supplier, the additional
> $900 was indeed for the fork assembly and just not for the coatings.
>
> Since this is info for the purchase of the Warko 14" in heavy light
> pollution, we (Dan and I) wondered if the $900 would be better spent
> towards enhanced equipment and not the coatings. So, we get the
> coatings as the standard production run off the line.
>
> The articles were interesting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>  
>


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I plan to be at the school tonight with rocks and binoculars. I haven't had
a chance to fix the Starmaster so I'll be leaving it at home.


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"fix the Starmaster"? What did you do? 



-Scott 



----- Original Message -----


From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...> 
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 1:27:41 PM 
Subject: [ASKC] tonight 

  




I plan to be at the school tonight with rocks and binoculars. I haven't had 
a chance to fix the Starmaster so I'll be leaving it at home. 

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A few months ago we had to have some roof repairs done. As it turned out we
needed more than minor repais. They replaced everything including the
decking. When they took the old decking off they didn't bother to tarp the
stuff in the garage, including all of the telescope equipment. Even though
it was covered enough dust leaked past to cover the primary and secondary.
I haven't cleaned them yet. I had fuzzy images the last time out so I
suspect in addtion to cleaning the optics I need to do some serious
collimation instead fo the quick and dirty I usually do when setting up.
Just one more thing on my 72 page list of things I need to do:-)
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:26 PM, <s.kranz1@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> "fix the Starmaster"? What did you do?
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 1:27:41 PM
> Subject: [ASKC] tonight
>
>
>
> I plan to be at the school tonight with rocks and binoculars. I haven't
> had
> a chance to fix the Starmaster so I'll be leaving it at home.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

David Brackey, John Fitzgerald and Pete Jafferis operated telescopes
tonight and showed kids and adults Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars, M-42 and
of course the moon. Those outside at about 7:00 were treated to some
re-entering space junk that broke apart and changed colors. David
Neuenschwander, Marcia and I showed meteorites in the gym. Nice warm night
that was fuzzy for a while but then cleared off nicely. The school staff
put on a well run event with a few hundred well behaved youngsters.


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David,

 

Thanks for the report.  Sounds like you all had a good night and I'm sure
the kids appreciated it. 

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:43 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Oak Park Carpenter School night

 

  

David Brackey, John Fitzgerald and Pete Jafferis operated telescopes
tonight and showed kids and adults Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars, M-42 and
of course the moon. Those outside at about 7:00 were treated to some
re-entering space junk that broke apart and changed colors. David
Neuenschwander, Marcia and I showed meteorites in the gym. Nice warm night
that was fuzzy for a while but then cleared off nicely. The school staff
put on a well run event with a few hundred well behaved youngsters.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ASKC 
group.

  File        : /ASKC Cosmic Messenger/2012 Cosmic Messenger/2012MarchCM.pdf 
  Uploaded by : dyoung8us <dyoung8@...> 
  Description : March Cosmic Messenger 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASKC/files/ASKC%20Cosmic%20Messenger/2012%20Cosmic%20Messenger/2012MarchCM.pdf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html
Regards,

dyoung8us <dyoung8@...>
 

Several members asked for the link to the What's Up Doc? series published on
the North Houston Astronomical Society's site. The March 2012 What's Up Doc?
is now at the following link:

http://www.astronomyclub.org/obs/whatsup/WhatsUpDoc-3-1-2012.pdf 

Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
Events category.

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5098756/Mai
n/5098756#Post5098756 

Lastly, the March 2012 Reflector, delivered today, has a nice article by Sue
Rose, "Why Observing Awards?". Take a look for more ideas about the AL's
observing programs.

Good observing.

Mike

The Mitsky link wrapped in the middle. Try this one.

<http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5098756/Ma
in/5098756#Post5098756> 

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Stewart
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 7:24 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Observing Lists

Several members asked for the link to the What's Up Doc? series published on
the North Houston Astronomical Society's site. The March 2012 What's Up Doc?
is now at the following link:

http://www.astronomyclub.org/obs/whatsup/WhatsUpDoc-3-1-2012.pdf 

Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
Events category.




Lastly, the March 2012 Reflector, delivered today, has a nice article by Sue
Rose, "Why Observing Awards?". Take a look for more ideas about the AL's
observing programs.

Good observing.

Mike




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Yahoo! Groups Links

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stewart" <AB0VM@...> wrote:
> Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
> for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
> Events category.

Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for the website.
Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.

Rob Robinson

Cool. Wish I'd known that was coming. Does
anyone know of any programs or web sites
that forecast such space junk re-entries?

We saw a great one from Powell in December 1988
that went from the NNW horizon to the SSE. This
was an unspecified Soviet rocket booster; it was
seen from Montana to Texas. Absolutely fantastic.

-John C


--- David Young wrote:
>
> ... Those outside at about 7:00 were treated
> to some re-entering space junk that broke apart
> and changed colors...
> 

Rob,

The PDF is quite useful. Tony's added some good information. I hadn't seen
the link previously but will add this to the list of regular downloads for
observing planning. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Have a good weekend.

Best,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SC285
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stewart" <AB0VM@...> wrote:
> Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
> for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
> Events category.

Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of
mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for the
website.
Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this
is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.

Rob Robinson



------------------------------------



Yahoo! Groups Links

I just had a call from someone wanting a private night, for tonight! I told
them I would ask but not to get their hopes up. We don't have more staff
trained on the new scope yet and I won't be available until after 10:00. It
would have to be an LCT night.



Anyone......anyone......anyone?


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OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under the
calendar.   Where exactly is this list?

 

Jackie

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SC285
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists

 

  


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
<AB0VM@...> wrote:
> Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
> for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
> Events category.

Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of
mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for the
website.
Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this
is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.

Rob Robinson





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On the main web page, click on the calendar and then look at the lists on the right side. It is the 2nd one down. It is a PDF file. Apparently you just woke up. Put in the hearing aid. :)

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:
>
> OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under the
> calendar.   Where exactly is this list?
> 
>  
> 
> Jackie
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SC285
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
> <AB0VM@> wrote:
> > Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site. Look
> > for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the Celestial
> > Events category.
> 
> Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
> Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of
> mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
> listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for the
> website.
> Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this
> is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.
> 
> Rob Robinson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Maybe you are in a different ASKC yahoo group.  No lists show up in the
calendar section of mine.

 

JB

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SC285
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:00 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists

 

  

On the main web page, click on the calendar and then look at the lists on
the right side. It is the 2nd one down. It is a PDF file. Apparently you
just woke up. Put in the hearing aid. :)

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , Jackie Beucher
<m31@...> wrote:
>
> OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under the
> calendar. Where exactly is this list?
> 
> 
> 
> Jackie
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
SC285
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
> <AB0VM@> wrote:
> > Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site.
Look
> > for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the
Celestial
> > Events category.
> 
> Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
> Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of
> mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
> listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for
the
> website.
> Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this
> is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.
> 
> Rob Robinson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No. Not in the Yahoo groups.
I am talking at www.askc.org
The WEBSITE not the yahoo group!

Rob

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe you are in a different ASKC yahoo group.  No lists show up in the
> calendar section of mine.
> 
>  
> 
> JB
> 
>  
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SC285
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:00 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> On the main web page, click on the calendar and then look at the lists on
> the right side. It is the 2nd one down. It is a PDF file. Apparently you
> just woke up. Put in the hearing aid. :)
> 
> Rob
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , Jackie Beucher
> <m31@> wrote:
> >
> > OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under the
> > calendar. Where exactly is this list?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jackie
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> SC285
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
> > <AB0VM@> wrote:
> > > Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site.
> Look
> > > for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the
> Celestial
> > > Events category.
> > 
> > Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
> > Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend of
> > mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
> > listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for
> the
> > website.
> > Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if this
> > is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.
> > 
> > Rob Robinson
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 Fun and easy work well for me. I'll do it, please send particulars.

David Neuenschwander

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 9:19 am
Subject: [ASKC] tonight


  
    
                  
I just had a call from someone wanting a private night, for tonight! I told
them I would ask but not to get their hopes up. We don't have more staff
trained on the new scope yet and I won't be available until after 10:00. It
would have to be an LCT night.

Anyone......anyone......anyone?

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


    
             

  
 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Call melanie ball at 8168856708
On Mar 3, 2012 12:11 PM, "David Neuenschwander" <david9660@...>
wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Fun and easy work well for me. I'll do it, please send particulars.
>
> David Neuenschwander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 9:19 am
> Subject: [ASKC] tonight
>
> I just had a call from someone wanting a private night, for tonight! I told
> them I would ask but not to get their hopes up. We don't have more staff
> trained on the new scope yet and I won't be available until after 10:00. It
> would have to be an LCT night.
>
> Anyone......anyone......anyone?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mike Stewart -
I enjoyed the Owl article in the newsletter - very interesting for those of 
us who observe at the DSS!

Thanks!

Kathy 

 Answering machine twice, no reply. : (

Looks like a lonely observatory. Just got back from a funeral for a WWII veteran. Very impressive military service, I'll miss him.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] tonight


Call melanie ball at 8168856708
On Mar 3, 2012 12:11 PM, "David Neuenschwander" <david9660@...>
wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Fun and easy work well for me. I'll do it, please send particulars.
>
> David Neuenschwander
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young <youngmdavid@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 9:19 am
> Subject: [ASKC] tonight
>
> I just had a call from someone wanting a private night, for tonight! I told
> them I would ask but not to get their hopes up. We don't have more staff
> trained on the new scope yet and I won't be available until after 10:00. It
> would have to be an LCT night.
>
> Anyone......anyone......anyone?
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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I think the calendar being discussed is NOT on the ASKC yahoo group. Mike's
note mentioned
http://www.astronomyclub.org/obs/whatsup/WhatsUpDoc-3-1-2012.pdf and
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5098756/Mai

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jackie Beucher <m31@everestkc.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Maybe you are in a different ASKC yahoo group. No lists show up in the
> calendar section of mine.
>
> JB
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> SC285
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:00 AM
>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
>
> On the main web page, click on the calendar and then look at the lists on
> the right side. It is the 2nd one down. It is a PDF file. Apparently you
> just woke up. Put in the hearing aid. :)
>
> Rob
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , Jackie
> Beucher
>
> <m31@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under the
> > calendar. Where exactly is this list?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> Of
>
> SC285
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
> > <AB0VM@> wrote:
> > > Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site.
> Look
> > > for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the
> Celestial
> > > Events category.
> >
> > Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
> > Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time friend
> of
> > mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to Dave's
> > listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it to Pat for
> the
> > website.
> > Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know if
> this
> > is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.
> >
> > Rob Robinson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I figured it out, with Walt's help....  It is on the calendar PAGE of the
ASKC WEB SITE.     And, yes... I found it!   

Thanks!

Jackie

-----Original Message-----
From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Young
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:53 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists

I think the calendar being discussed is NOT on the ASKC yahoo group. Mike's
note mentioned
http://www.astronomyclub.org/obs/whatsup/WhatsUpDoc-3-1-2012.pdf and
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5098756/Mai

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jackie Beucher <m31@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Maybe you are in a different ASKC yahoo group. No lists show up in the 
> calendar section of mine.
>
> JB
>
>
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> SC285
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 10:00 AM
>
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
>
> On the main web page, click on the calendar and then look at the lists 
> on the right side. It is the 2nd one down. It is a PDF file. 
> Apparently you just woke up. Put in the hearing aid. :)
>
> Rob
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , Jackie 
> Beucher
>
> <m31@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK. call me an airhead, but I couldn't find anything listed under 
> > the calendar. Where exactly is this list?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jackie
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
> Behalf Of
>
> SC285
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:25 PM
> > To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [ASKC] Re: Observing Lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Stewart"
> > <AB0VM@> wrote:
> > > Dave Mitsky's extensive monthly list is up on the Cloudy Nights site.
> Look
> > > for the article entitled "March 2012 Celestial Calendar" in the
> Celestial
> > > Events category.
> >
> > Mike - this is also placed on the ASKC website under the calendar.
> > Tony Donnangelo (Dave Mitsky's observing budding and a long time 
> > friend
> of
> > mine) sends me a version which he adds additional information to 
> > Dave's listing. I put everything together in PDF format and send it 
> > to Pat for
> the
> > website.
> > Never looked at the listing on Cloudy Nite's site, so I don't know 
> > if
> this
> > is the same or a more comprehensive calendar.
> >
> > Rob Robinson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Yahoo! Groups Links

Has the date, place and time been set for the next convention planning
meeting? We need to get our registration numbers locked down.

Gary


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Just got back from the DSS about a hour ago. I got down there about 9:30 this morning. The wind was nothing this morning, but it started picking up around noon, and by 2:00, there were white caps on the pond! 


If you've been to the DSS in the last 6 months, you may have noticed a few bald spots. Across the main observing field I spread 50 pounds of grass seed and 37.5 pound of fertilizer. Hopefully by the marathon, we'll have a little growth and better looking area out there by this summer. 



A few things.......... 



(1) It looks like our neighbor to the north graded our road a little bit the last time he had the catepillar down there. Ttread marks lead all the way to the north culvert and all the water ruts have been filled in. He also leveled the rock a bit on the south side of the first hill. It looks good! 



(2) Two weekends ago when I left the DSS, I unplugged the rope light in the outhouse. This morning, it was plugged in again. I don't know who was down there last, but we need to unplug it before we leave. I bought a little light sensor activated outlet that I plan to use the next time I'm out there observing. If it works well, I'll leave the lights plugged into that while someone is down there. At least they'll be off during the daytime then in case someone forgets to unplug them. 



David Y: 



(3) In the last 2 weeks, we've apparently had more wind down there. The pressure tank and piping that was stored in the south shower stall tipped over and there were multiple pieces of broken PVC lying around the area. So just a fore warning that we'll need to do some work and probably buy new piping before getting the showers hooked up this year. 



-Scott 

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I have a scout group scheduled for March 23. The duty pair already has a
night so I need a volunteer for this small group of little people.

Anyone?..... anyone?........ anyone?


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I could lend a hand.

Dave

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> I have a scout group scheduled for March 23. The duty pair already has a
> night so I need a volunteer for this small group of little people.
> 
> Anyone?..... anyone?........ anyone?
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have a request for a private night on April 6 or April 9. The duty pair
already has a night.

Anyone care to take this one?


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Found on the internet so it must be true!

There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
should have ended 7 months ago.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods? Good 
news.

JIm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained


> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>
> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
> should have ended 7 months ago.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

I just put a science night on the calendar for April 25. Another great
opportunity for outreach.

Sign up now and avoid the rush:-)


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I can be available for that one.  Pete

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> I just put a science night on the calendar for April 25. Another great
> opportunity for outreach.
> 
> Sign up now and avoid the rush:-)
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks Pete, gotcha down.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:55 PM, pjafferis <pjafferis@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I can be available for that one. Pete
>
>
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just put a science night on the calendar for April 25. Another great
> > opportunity for outreach.
> >
> > Sign up now and avoid the rush:-)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the gregorian calendar.

Jeremy


------------------------------
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:

>So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods? Good 
>news.
>
>JIm
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>
>
>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>>
>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> should have ended 7 months ago.
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Darn, and we missed the party...Was it a bang-up one?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained


> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> 
> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
> should have ended 7 months ago.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
off.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
> gregorian calendar.
>
> Jeremy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>
> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
> Good
> >news.
> >
> >JIm
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >
> >
> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >>
> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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OK,
I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 
is the same as in another known calendar system.
My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
be an issue.

Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
easy.
Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
date that is critical.

From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
not off 7 months.
It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
translating that into Gregorian.
I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?

So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
fun.

It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
will do the research to check it out!

Kathy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained


> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
> off.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>> gregorian calendar.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>>
>> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>> Good
>> >news.
>> >
>> >JIm
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> >>
>> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
>> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
>> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> 

Critical thinking FTW.  Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime this year.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>
> OK,
> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 
> is the same as in another known calendar system.
> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
> be an issue.
> 
> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
> easy.
> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
> date that is critical.
> 
> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
> not off 7 months.
> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
> translating that into Gregorian.
> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> 
> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
> fun.
> 
> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
> will do the research to check it out!
> 
> Kathy
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> 
> 
> > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
> > off.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
> >> gregorian calendar.
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> >>
> >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
> >> Good
> >> >news.
> >> >
> >> >JIm
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >> >>
> >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
> >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
> >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
> >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many many years ago.


Small world

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime this year.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK,
> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 
> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
> > be an issue.
> > 
> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
> > easy.
> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
> > date that is critical.
> > 
> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
> > not off 7 months.
> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
> > translating that into Gregorian.
> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> > 
> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
> > fun.
> > 
> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
> > will do the research to check it out!
> > 
> > Kathy
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> > 
> > 
> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
> > > off.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> **
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
> > >> gregorian calendar.
> > >>
> > >> Jeremy
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
> > >> Good
> > >> >news.
> > >> >
> > >> >JIm
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ------------------------------------
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >------------------------------------
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 


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 Yes, same guy. He has given superb physics demonstrations at general meetings and has spoken about his travels and research into Mayan archaeoastronomy. I share Jay's hope.
David Neuenschwander

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:41 am
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


  
    
                  
Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many many years ago.

Small world

Sent from my Verizon iPhone

On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime this year.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >
> > OK,
> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambiguously 
> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
> > be an issue.
> > 
> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
> > easy.
> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
> > date that is critical.
> > 
> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
> > not off 7 months.
> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
> > translating that into Gregorian.
> > I would think the people who did that initial date setting and calendar 
> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> > 
> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
> > fun.
> > 
> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
> > will do the research to check it out!
> > 
> > Kathy


 


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Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum.  Dr. Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk he particularly wants to hear.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
>
>  
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime this year.
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 
>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
>> > be an issue.
>> > 
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
>> > date that is critical.
>> > 
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> > 
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
>> > fun.
>> > 
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> > 
>> > Kathy
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
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No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There are 
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the 
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, TORNADOES, 
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on. 


Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a 
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an emergency. 
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those 
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen




________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained

  
Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great 
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our 
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum.  Dr. 
Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk he 
particularly wants to hear.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
>
>  
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated 
>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many 
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime 
>>this year.
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 

>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 

>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 

>> > be an issue.
>> > 
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 

>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
>> > date that is critical.
>> > 
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> > 
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
>> > fun.
>> > 
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> > 
>> > Kathy
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. 
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >>
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Okay, so much for this "end of the world" stuff.  But here is a absolute fact -  our world WILL end at some point.  It may be a catastrophic event or an ever quieter whimper.  If the study of astronomy shows us just one thing, it is that nothing is forever, religious beliefs not withstanding.  The second thing our shared hobby tells us is that it can be right now or tomorrow or anytime.  
And that's the truth, as Lilly Tomlin says.  Lilly also said, "Remember, we're all in this alone."

On Mar 7, 2012, at 10:37 AM, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:

> OK,
> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 
> is the same as in another known calendar system.
> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 
> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 
> be an issue.
> 
> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 
> easy.
> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
> date that is critical.
> 
> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
> not off 7 months.
> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
> translating that into Gregorian.
> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> 
> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
> fun.
> 
> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
> will do the research to check it out!
> 
> Kathy
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> 
> 
>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>> off.
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>>> gregorian calendar.
>>> 
>>> Jeremy
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>>> Good
>>>> news.
>>>> 
>>>> JIm
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>>>>> 
>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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We poooooo. That x 5 flare may spawn some auroa tonight, above the clouds.


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Checking one of the Aurora Borealis prediction sites, it sounds like the best conditions may be tomorrow night and the clear sky clock is looking good for tomorrow night.....I hope both of these are true.

Doug S.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:
>
> We poooooo. That x 5 flare may spawn some auroa tonight, above the clouds.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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One of his first talks if not the first was one on the topic of 
astrology, where he compared notes about how astrologers approached 
their craft and how they used star charts, and all the same tools as 
astronomers do, and what they made of it.

A very good talk.  From what he did with that material, I suspect he has 
a pretty good fix on any question of calendars.

... Brian, you make me feel old.  bad dog.
Jim

On 3/7/2012 10:16 AM, Tom Martinez wrote:
> Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum.  Dr. Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk he particularly wants to hear.
>
>   
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brian Davidson<brian@...>
>> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com"<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>>
>>
>>   
>> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many many years ago.
>>
>> Small world
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold"<jay_manifold@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime this year.
>>>
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin"<kmachin@...>  wrote:
>>>> OK,
>>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously
>>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
>>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from
>>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not
>>>> be an issue.
>>>>
>>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively
>>>> easy.
>>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
>>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian
>>>> date that is critical.
>>>>
>>>>  From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and
>>>> not off 7 months.
>>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>>>> translating that into Gregorian.
>>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>>>>
>>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am
>>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great
>>>> fun.
>>>>
>>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody
>>>> will do the research to check it out!
>>>>
>>>> Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
>>>> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake<azure__drake@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>>>>>> gregorian calendar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>>>>>> Good
>>>>>>> news.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JIm
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "David Young"<youngmdavid@...>
>>>>>>> To:<ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 BC.
>>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. The
>>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.

Saw a program on Nat Geo or Sy Fy that said don't worry about the planet, worry about Us. Pete

There is the rub.  We will become space debris along with Planet Earth, and yet the Milky Way will continue to spin around it's center, moving farther from the Initial Point like nothing ever happened.  Nada.  

I just noticed that on my IPad keyboard, the typist's home keys (f & j) have an image of a raised bar so they can be recognized by touch.  But they are just an image.  Not real.  Wow!  What else is not what it seems?

On Mar 7, 2012, at 8:18 PM, "pjafferis" <pjafferis@...> wrote:

> Saw a program on Nat Geo or Sy Fy that said don't worry about the planet, worry about Us. Pete
> 
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> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One hint 
I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm not as 
paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There 
are
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, 
TORNADOES,
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.


Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an 
emergency.
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen




________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum. 
Dr.
Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk 
he
particularly wants to hear.


Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
>
>
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I 
>graduated
>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor 
>many
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker 
>> sometime
>>this year.
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that 
>> > unambigously

>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days 
>> > from

>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may 
>> > not

>> > be an issue.
>> >
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be 
>> > relatively

>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is 
>> > known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" 
>> > Julian/Gregorian
>> > date that is critical.
>> >
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward 
>> > and
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> >
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I 
>> > am
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be 
>> > great
>> > fun.
>> >
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about 
>> > nobody
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> >
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 
>> > > months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use 
>> > >> the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can 
>> > >> >goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 
>> > >> >> 45
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 
>> > >> >> 2013.
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the 
>> > >> >> world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
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I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit, some MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area to bring my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep a near full tank of gas in the car.

Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say I'm paranoid?  I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are talking about me when they get together to toss the quarter.  :-))



On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One hint 
> I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm not as 
> paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
> 
> Jim
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
> 
> No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There 
> are
> many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
> Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, 
> TORNADOES,
> floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
> 
> 
> Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a
> minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an 
> emergency.
> MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
> supplies around?
> 
> I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
> 
> Johnny Allen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@yahoo.com>
> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
> 
> Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
> November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum. 
> Dr.
> Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk 
> he
> particularly wants to hear.
> 
> 
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I 
>> graduated
>> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor 
>> many
>> many years ago.
>> 
>> Small world
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker 
>>> sometime
>>> this year.
>>> 
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK,
>>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that 
>>>> unambigously
> 
>>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
>>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days 
>>>> from
> 
>>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may 
>>>> not
> 
>>>> be an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be 
>>>> relatively
> 
>>>> easy.
>>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is 
>>>> known.
>>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" 
>>>> Julian/Gregorian
>>>> date that is critical.
>>>> 
>>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward 
>>>> and
>>>> not off 7 months.
>>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>>>> translating that into Gregorian.
>>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>>>> 
>>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I 
>>>> am
>>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be 
>>>> great
>>>> fun.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about 
>>>> nobody
>>>> will do the research to check it out!
>>>> 
>>>> Kathy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 
>>>>> months
>>>>> off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> gregorian calendar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can 
>>>>>>> goods?
>>>>>> Good
>>>>>>> news.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JIm
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 
>>>>>>>> 45
> BC.
>>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 
>>>>>>>> 2013.
> The
>>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the 
>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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It's illegal to flash aircraft, but not spacecraft, apparently.



A Flashing Success

Flashing space station with beams of light as it passes overhead had never been successfully done
until yesterday.

It sounds deceptively easy. In an earlier post I wrote about the technical requirements. But like
so many other tasks, it becomes much more involved in the execution than in the planning.

Early Sunday morning, at 01:27 our time, the San Antonio Astronomical Association, an amateur
astronomy group, succeeded in flashing space station with a one-watt blue laser and a white
spot light as we passed overhead. This took a number of engineering calculations. Projected
beam diameters (assuming the propagation of a Gaussian wave for the laser) and intensity at
the target had to be calculated. Tracking space station's path as it streaked across the sky
was another challenge. I used email to communicate with Robert Reeves, one of the association's
members. Considering that it takes a day, maybe more, for a simple exchange of messages (on
space station we receive email drops two to three times a day), the whole event took weeks
to plan.

I was ready with cameras for the early morning San Antonio pass and can report that it was
a flashing success. Here's one of the pictures to prove it.

Don Pettit

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/05/10585827-space-station-spots-its-first-flash

http://boingboing.net/2012/03/07/astronauts-photo-of-amateur.html

George,
That is odd, but not surprising. Nearly all real
keyboards have little raised bars on the home keys;
known that since I learned to type in the 8th grade.
I don't have an IPad, but I imagine the keyboard is
too small to line up eight fingers on, so a raised
bar would be pretty useless. Why they bother to put
an image of one on them is a mystery to me, too. As
for what else is not as it seems, I can only answer
"much".


Pete,
I've been sneering and laughing about that since the
whole "Save the Planet" thing started decades ago.
Just another way of overstating our own importance.
The planet is in no particular danger; when we off
ourselves, it will continue to slowly orbit its way
around the sun as if we were never here. It's our own
species that we're really worried about, or should be.

-John C


--- George Allen wrote:
>
> ...  
> I just noticed that on my IPad keyboard, the typist's
> home keys (f & j) have an image of a raised bar so they
> can be recognized by touch.  But they are just an image.
> Not real.  Wow!  What else is not what it seems?
> 
> --- Pete Jafferis wrote:
> 
> > Saw a program on Nat Geo or Sy Fy that said don't
> > worry about the planet, worry about Us. Pete
> > 

Or you can just drain the water heater. Start by bailing the water out of
the toilet tank for drinking water and then water from the water heater
used for everything else including an occaisional flush.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Jim Ketchum <suenjim@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
> hint
> I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm not
> as
> paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@yahoo.com>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
> No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
> There
> are
> many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
> Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
> TORNADOES,
> floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
>
> Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have
> a
> minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an
> emergency.
> MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
> supplies around?
>
> I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
>
> Johnny Allen
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
> Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
> November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science
> Museum.
> Dr.
> Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a
> talk
> he
> particularly wants to hear.
>
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
> >To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >
> >
> >
> >Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I
> >graduated
> >from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor
> >many
> >many years ago.
> >
> >Small world
> >
> >Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> >
> >On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
> >> sometime
> >>this year.
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > OK,
> >> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> >> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> >> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that
> >> > unambigously
>
> >> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
> >> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of
> days
> >> > from
>
> >> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days
> may
> >> > not
>
> >> > be an issue.
> >> >
> >> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be
> >> > relatively
>
> >> > easy.
> >> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is
> >> > known.
> >> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???"
> >> > Julian/Gregorian
> >> > date that is critical.
> >> >
> >> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight
> forward
> >> > and
> >> > not off 7 months.
> >> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
> >> > translating that into Gregorian.
> >> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
> >> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> >> >
> >> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered,
> I
> >> > am
> >> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> >> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be
> >> > great
> >> > fun.
> >> >
> >> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about
> >> > nobody
> >> > will do the research to check it out!
> >> >
> >> > Kathy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7
> >> > > months
> >> > > off.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> **
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we
> use
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> gregorian calendar.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Jeremy
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ------------------------------
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can
> >> > >> >goods?
> >> > >> Good
> >> > >> >news.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >JIm
> >> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in
> >> > >> >> 45
> BC.
> >> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28,
> >> > >> >> 2013.
> The
> >> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the
> >> > >> >> world
> >> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
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you forgot ammo

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:51 PM, george allen <geonjod@earthlink.net> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit,
> some MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area
> to bring my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep
> a near full tank of gas in the car.
>
> Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say
> I'm paranoid? I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are
> talking about me when they get together to toss the quarter. :-))
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
> hint
> > I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm
> not as
> > paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
> >
> > Jim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >
> >
> > No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
> There
> > are
> > many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to
> the
> > Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
> > TORNADOES,
> > floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
> >
> >
> > Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should
> have a
> > minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an
> > emergency.
> > MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having
> those
> > supplies around?
> >
> > I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
> >
> > Johnny Allen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> > To: "ASKC@...m" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >
> >
> > Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> > Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
> > November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science
> Museum.
> > Dr.
> > Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a
> talk
> > he
> > particularly wants to hear.
> >
> >
> > Tom J Martinez
> > http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
> >> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I
> >> graduated
> >> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science
> professor
> >> many
> >> many years ago.
> >>
> >> Small world
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> >>
> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
> >>> sometime
> >>> this year.
> >>>
> >>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> OK,
> >>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> >>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> >>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that
> >>>> unambigously
> >
> >>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
> >>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of
> days
> >>>> from
> >
> >>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days
> may
> >>>> not
> >
> >>>> be an issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be
> >>>> relatively
> >
> >>>> easy.
> >>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is
> >>>> known.
> >>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???"
> >>>> Julian/Gregorian
> >>>> date that is critical.
> >>>>
> >>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight
> forward
> >>>> and
> >>>> not off 7 months.
> >>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
> >>>> translating that into Gregorian.
> >>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
> >>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> >>>>
> >>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered,
> I
> >>>> am
> >>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> >>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be
> >>>> great
> >>>> fun.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about
> >>>> nobody
> >>>> will do the research to check it out!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kathy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7
> >>>>> months
> >>>>> off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we
> use
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> gregorian calendar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeremy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can
> >>>>>>> goods?
> >>>>>> Good
> >>>>>>> news.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JIm
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in
> >>>>>>>> 45
> > BC.
> >>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28,
> >>>>>>>> 2013.
> > The
> >>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the
> >>>>>>>> world
> >>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
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Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first aid kit 
- check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, ammo - check, 
guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking methods - 
check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check. What do 
yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take preventative 
measures, right?

The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most part. 
That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who have 
gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food stored. 
I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the show that 
they pick the most off-the-wall people they can find. Even still, the folks on 
the show have good ideas in general. It's worth watching just to glean the few 
good ideas they do have.

The way I see things is that most of their worries, which cover the spectrum 
from an economic meltdown to a polar shift, which they think will cause world 
wide volcanic action and earthquakes, are infinitesimally possible. The Nat Geo 
folks who review their readiness, always come out with some kind of statement 
regarding the likelihood of what they're worrying about happening. The 
probabilities they espouse are always very small. 

As my old college prof used to say, the odds of something not happening are 
greater than the odds of something happening. Hmmm, did I get that backwards?  

Johnny Allen



________________________________
From: george allen <geonjod@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 11:51:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained

  
I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit, some 
MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area to bring 
my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep a near full 
tank of gas in the car.

Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say I'm 
paranoid?  I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are talking 
about me when they get together to toss the quarter.  :-))

On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One hint 
> I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm not as 
> paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
> 
> Jim
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
> 
> No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There 
> are
> many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
> Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, 
> TORNADOES,
> floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
> 
> 
> Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a
> minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an 
> emergency.
> MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
> supplies around?
> 
> I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
> 
> Johnny Allen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
> 
> Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
> November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum. 
> Dr.
> Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk 
> he
> particularly wants to hear.
> 
> 
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brian Davidson <brian@photographybydavidson.com>
>> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I 
>> graduated
>> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor 
>> many
>> many years ago.
>> 
>> Small world
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
>>> sometime
>>> this year.
>>> 
>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK,
>>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that 
>>>> unambigously
> 
>>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
>>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days 
>>>> from
> 
>>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may 
>>>> not
> 
>>>> be an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be 
>>>> relatively
> 
>>>> easy.
>>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is 
>>>> known.
>>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" 
>>>> Julian/Gregorian
>>>> date that is critical.
>>>> 
>>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward 
>>>> and
>>>> not off 7 months.
>>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>>>> translating that into Gregorian.
>>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>>>> 
>>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I 
>>>> am
>>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be 
>>>> great
>>>> fun.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about 
>>>> nobody
>>>> will do the research to check it out!
>>>> 
>>>> Kathy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 
>>>>> months
>>>>> off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> gregorian calendar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can 
>>>>>>> goods?
>>>>>> Good
>>>>>>> news.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JIm
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 
>>>>>>>> 45
> BC.
>>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 
>>>>>>>> 2013.
> The
>>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the 
>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ood.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm a member of the scout group that is visiting so I will be happy to help.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2012, at 5:44 PM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> I have a scout group scheduled for March 23. The duty pair already has a
> night so I need a volunteer for this small group of little people.
> 
> Anyone?..... anyone?........ anyone?
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm hosting a scout group Saturday night. If you would like to help and get
an introduction to the new control system at the same time, drop me a note.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You got an address on that 22 years of food?......just in case.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first
> aid kit
> - check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, ammo -
> check,
> guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking
> methods -
> check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check. What
> do
> yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take
> preventative
> measures, right?
>
> The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most
> part.
> That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who
> have
> gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food
> stored.
> I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the show
> that
> they pick the most off-the-wall people they can find. Even still, the
> folks on
> the show have good ideas in general. It's worth watching just to glean the
> few
> good ideas they do have.
>
> The way I see things is that most of their worries, which cover the
> spectrum
> from an economic meltdown to a polar shift, which they think will cause
> world
> wide volcanic action and earthquakes, are infinitesimally possible. The
> Nat Geo
> folks who review their readiness, always come out with some kind of
> statement
> regarding the likelihood of what they're worrying about happening. The
> probabilities they espouse are always very small.
>
> As my old college prof used to say, the odds of something not happening
> are
> greater than the odds of something happening. Hmmm, did I get that
> backwards?
>
> Johnny Allen
>
> ________________________________
> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 11:51:18 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
> I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit,
> some
> MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area to
> bring
> my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep a near
> full
> tank of gas in the car.
>
> Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say
> I'm
> paranoid? I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are
> talking
> about me when they get together to toss the quarter. :-))
>
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
> hint
> > I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm
> not as
> > paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
> >
> > Jim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >
> >
> > No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
> There
> > are
> > many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to
> the
> > Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
> > TORNADOES,
> > floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
> >
> >
> > Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should
> have a
> > minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an
> > emergency.
> > MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having
> those
> > supplies around?
> >
> > I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
> >
> > Johnny Allen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> > To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >
> >
> > Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> > Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
> > November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science
> Museum.
> > Dr.
> > Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a
> talk
> > he
> > particularly wants to hear.
> >
> >
> > Tom J Martinez
> > http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
> >> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I
> >> graduated
> >> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science
> professor
> >> many
> >> many years ago.
> >>
> >> Small world
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> >>
> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
> >>> sometime
> >>> this year.
> >>>
> >>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> OK,
> >>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> >>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> >>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that
> >>>> unambigously
> >
> >>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
> >>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of
> days
> >>>> from
> >
> >>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days
> may
> >>>> not
> >
> >>>> be an issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be
> >>>> relatively
> >
> >>>> easy.
> >>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is
> >>>> known.
> >>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???"
> >>>> Julian/Gregorian
> >>>> date that is critical.
> >>>>
> >>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight
> forward
> >>>> and
> >>>> not off 7 months.
> >>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
> >>>> translating that into Gregorian.
> >>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
> >>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> >>>>
> >>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered,
> I
> >>>> am
> >>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> >>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be
> >>>> great
> >>>> fun.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about
> >>>> nobody
> >>>> will do the research to check it out!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kathy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7
> >>>>> months
> >>>>> off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we
> use
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> gregorian calendar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jeremy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can
> >>>>>>> goods?
> >>>>>> Good
> >>>>>>> news.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JIm
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in
> >>>>>>>> 45
> > BC.
> >>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28,
> >>>>>>>> 2013.
> > The
> >>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the
> >>>>>>>> world
> >>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > ood.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I would think there would be problems with expiration dates. Even canned 
goods have expiration dates.

JK
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


> You got an address on that 22 years of food?......just in case.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...> 
> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first
>> aid kit
>> - check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, ammo -
>> check,
>> guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking
>> methods -
>> check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check. 
>> What
>> do
>> yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take
>> preventative
>> measures, right?
>>
>> The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most
>> part.
>> That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who
>> have
>> gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food
>> stored.
>> I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the show
>> that
>> they pick the most off-the-wall people they can find. Even still, the
>> folks on
>> the show have good ideas in general. It's worth watching just to glean 
>> the
>> few
>> good ideas they do have.
>>
>> The way I see things is that most of their worries, which cover the
>> spectrum
>> from an economic meltdown to a polar shift, which they think will cause
>> world
>> wide volcanic action and earthquakes, are infinitesimally possible. The
>> Nat Geo
>> folks who review their readiness, always come out with some kind of
>> statement
>> regarding the likelihood of what they're worrying about happening. The
>> probabilities they espouse are always very small.
>>
>> As my old college prof used to say, the odds of something not happening
>> are
>> greater than the odds of something happening. Hmmm, did I get that
>> backwards?
>>
>> Johnny Allen
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 11:51:18 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>>
>> I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit,
>> some
>> MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area to
>> bring
>> my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep a near
>> full
>> tank of gas in the car.
>>
>> Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say
>> I'm
>> paranoid? I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are
>> talking
>> about me when they get together to toss the quarter. :-))
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
>> hint
>> > I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm
>> not as
>> > paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> > No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
>> There
>> > are
>> > many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to
>> the
>> > Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
>> > TORNADOES,
>> > floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
>> >
>> >
>> > Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should
>> have a
>> > minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an
>> > emergency.
>> > MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having
>> those
>> > supplies around?
>> >
>> > I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
>> >
>> > Johnny Allen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
>> > To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> > Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
>> > Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had 
>> > our
>> > November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science
>> Museum.
>> > Dr.
>> > Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a
>> talk
>> > he
>> > particularly wants to hear.
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom J Martinez
>> > http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>> >
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>> >> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I
>> >> graduated
>> >> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science
>> professor
>> >> many
>> >> many years ago.
>> >>
>> >> Small world
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
>> >>> sometime
>> >>> this year.
>> >>>
>> >>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> OK,
>> >>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> >>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> >>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that
>> >>>> unambigously
>> >
>> >>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> >>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of
>> days
>> >>>> from
>> >
>> >>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days
>> may
>> >>>> not
>> >
>> >>>> be an issue.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be
>> >>>> relatively
>> >
>> >>>> easy.
>> >>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is
>> >>>> known.
>> >>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???"
>> >>>> Julian/Gregorian
>> >>>> date that is critical.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight
>> forward
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> not off 7 months.
>> >>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date 
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> translating that into Gregorian.
>> >>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and 
>> >>>> calendar
>> >>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't 
>> >>>> considered,
>> I
>> >>>> am
>> >>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> >>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be
>> >>>> great
>> >>>> fun.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about
>> >>>> nobody
>> >>>> will do the research to check it out!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kathy
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> >>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7
>> >>>>> months
>> >>>>> off.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> **
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we
>> use
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> gregorian calendar.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jeremy
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can
>> >>>>>>> goods?
>> >>>>>> Good
>> >>>>>>> news.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> JIm
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> >>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in
>> >>>>>>>> 45
>> > BC.
>> >>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28,
>> >>>>>>>> 2013.
>> > The
>> >>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the
>> >>>>>>>> world
>> >>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
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How did the game day go last Sunday? I am sorry that we missed it. Is there any plan for another one?

- Don

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Yeah, but many of those date are arbitrary. I wonder if could live on
twinkies:-)
On Mar 8, 2012 10:39 AM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I would think there would be problems with expiration dates. Even canned
> goods have expiration dates.
>
> JK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
> > You got an address on that 22 years of food?......just in case.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first
> >> aid kit
> >> - check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, ammo -
> >> check,
> >> guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking
> >> methods -
> >> check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check.
> >> What
> >> do
> >> yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take
> >> preventative
> >> measures, right?
> >>
> >> The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most
> >> part.
> >> That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who
> >> have
> >> gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food
> >> stored.
> >> I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the show
> >> that
> >> they pick the most off-the-wall people they can find. Even still, the
> >> folks on
> >> the show have good ideas in general. It's worth watching just to glean
> >> the
> >> few
> >> good ideas they do have.
> >>
> >> The way I see things is that most of their worries, which cover the
> >> spectrum
> >> from an economic meltdown to a polar shift, which they think will cause
> >> world
> >> wide volcanic action and earthquakes, are infinitesimally possible. The
> >> Nat Geo
> >> folks who review their readiness, always come out with some kind of
> >> statement
> >> regarding the likelihood of what they're worrying about happening. The
> >> probabilities they espouse are always very small.
> >>
> >> As my old college prof used to say, the odds of something not happening
> >> are
> >> greater than the odds of something happening. Hmmm, did I get that
> >> backwards?
> >>
> >> Johnny Allen
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
> >> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 11:51:18 PM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >>
> >> I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit,
> >> some
> >> MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area
> to
> >> bring
> >> my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep a
> near
> >> full
> >> tank of gas in the car.
> >>
> >> Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say
> >> I'm
> >> paranoid? I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are
> >> talking
> >> about me when they get together to toss the quarter. :-))
> >>
> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
> >> hint
> >> > I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm
> >> not as
> >> > paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@yahoo.com>
> >> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
> >> There
> >> > are
> >> > many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according
> to
> >> the
> >> > Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
> >> > TORNADOES,
> >> > floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should
> >> have a
> >> > minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an
> >> > emergency.
> >> > MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having
> >> those
> >> > supplies around?
> >> >
> >> > I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .
> >> >
> >> > Johnny Allen
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
> >> > To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
> >> > Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had
> >> > our
> >> > November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science
> >> Museum.
> >> > Dr.
> >> > Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its
> a
> >> talk
> >> > he
> >> > particularly wants to hear.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tom J Martinez
> >> > http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >> >
> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
> >> >> To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I
> >> >> graduated
> >> >> from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science
> >> professor
> >> >> many
> >> >> many years ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> Small world
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my Verizon iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker
> >> >>> sometime
> >> >>> this year.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> OK,
> >> >>>> I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
> >> >>>> This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
> >> >>>> The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that
> >> >>>> unambigously
> >> >
> >> >>>> is the same as in another known calendar system.
> >> >>>> My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of
> >> days
> >> >>>> from
> >> >
> >> >>>> a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days
> >> may
> >> >>>> not
> >> >
> >> >>>> be an issue.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be
> >> >>>> relatively
> >> >
> >> >>>> easy.
> >> >>>> Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is
> >> >>>> known.
> >> >>>> It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???"
> >> >>>> Julian/Gregorian
> >> >>>> date that is critical.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight
> >> forward
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> not off 7 months.
> >> >>>> It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> translating that into Gregorian.
> >> >>>> I would think the people who did that intial date setting and
> >> >>>> calendar
> >> >>>> relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't
> >> >>>> considered,
> >> I
> >> >>>> am
> >> >>>> wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
> >> >>>> It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be
> >> >>>> great
> >> >>>> fun.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about
> >> >>>> nobody
> >> >>>> will do the research to check it out!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Kathy
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >> >>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7
> >> >>>>> months
> >> >>>>> off.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> **
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we
> >> use
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> gregorian calendar.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Jeremy
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can
> >> >>>>>>> goods?
> >> >>>>>> Good
> >> >>>>>>> news.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> JIm
> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>>>>>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> >> >>>>>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Found on the internet so it must be true!
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in
> >> >>>>>>>> 45
> >> > BC.
> >> >>>>>>>> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28,
> >> >>>>>>>> 2013.
> >> > The
> >> >>>>>>>> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the
> >> >>>>>>>> world
> >> >>>>>>>> should have ended 7 months ago.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
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It was hardly worth the effort to plan it. We had a total of 8 people show
up. We played a few games of Backgammon and sat around and talked. I'm
taking the ham sandwiches we made to the board meeting tonight. Hopefully
they will be consumed. I hate to throw food away.

Clear skies,

Gary Pittman

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Don Grodecki <don@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> How did the game day go last Sunday? I am sorry that we missed it. Is
> there any plan for another one?
>
> - Don
>
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>
>  
>



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Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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Librarian, Joe Alburty, will you be at the board meeting tonight? I have a
couple of astronomy work books I would like to donate to the library.

-- 
Clear skies,

Gary Pittman


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Not so, David.  I just didn't want to admit to everything for fear I'd get labeled  "...living on a compound..."  or "extremist" or worse.  Please excuse me now, I have to get back down into the tunnel.

On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:10 AM, David Young <youngmdavid@...> wrote:

> you forgot ammo
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:51 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:
> 
>> **
>> 
>> 
>> I bought auto insurance, home insurance, an umbrella, a first aid kit,
>> some MRE's, made arrangements with a cousin that lives in a very rural area
>> to bring my wife and myself there if it gets too "hot" near Omaha, and keep
>> a near full tank of gas in the car.
>> 
>> Not having cable TV, I have not seen the N. G. series, but would you say
>> I'm paranoid? I figure paranoid is thinking the quarter backs and refs are
>> talking about me when they get together to toss the quarter. :-))
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, I was joshsing. I have at least a thirty day supply of food. One
>> hint
>>> I heard was to fill your tub with water in or after an emergency. I'm
>> not as
>>> paranoid as those doomers on the NETGEO series. At least not yet.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
>>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food.
>> There
>>> are
>>> many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to
>> the
>>> Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes,
>>> TORNADOES,

Gary, and your helpers,
Thanks for your planning & time.  I did greatly enjoy the one last year but was not able to attend this years.
Since I don't remember much, more than 10 minutes old anymore, I was wondering if the notice any kind of an RSVP?  -  that might aid those planning?
Anyway.....you did your job - and a great job it was...
Thank you
Mike Sterling



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...>
To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Game Day


It was hardly worth the effort to plan it. We had a total of 8 people show
p. We played a few games of Backgammon and sat around and talked. I'm
aking the ham sandwiches we made to the board meeting tonight. Hopefully
hey will be consumed. I hate to throw food away.
Clear skies,
Gary Pittman
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Don Grodecki <don@...> wrote:
> **


 How did the game day go last Sunday? I am sorry that we missed it. Is
 there any plan for another one?

 - Don

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Hey, Johnny, sportsman guide list brand new, clean Jerry cans so you can put water in them, or anything, 25 bucks.  We got 6 of them.

We use antenna for TV reception and for the past 2 days it has been cutting in and out.  Never did before.  Wonder if it is the attack from the people that live inside our Sun?

Anyone else using TV antennas having this problem, or are they just after us?  Gotta get more tin foil.  

Any vet can attest that food can be eaten past the expiration date! 
:-)

On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:

> I would think there would be problems with expiration dates. Even canned 
> goods have expiration dates.
> 
> JK
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
> 
>> You got an address on that 22 years of food?......just in case.
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first
>>> aid kit
>>> - check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, ammo -
>>> check,
>>> guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking
>>> methods -
>>> check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check. 
>>> What
>>> do
>>> yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take
>>> preventative
>>> measures, right?
>>> 
>>> The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most
>>> part.
>>> That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who
>>> have
>>> gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food
>>> stored.
>>> I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the show
>>> that

Yeah, but 22 years!?!?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george allen" <geonjod@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


> Any vet can attest that food can be eaten past the expiration date!
> :-)
>
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Jim Ketchum" <suenjim@...> wrote:
>
>> I would think there would be problems with expiration dates. Even canned
>> goods have expiration dates.
>>
>> JK
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>>
>>
>>> You got an address on that 22 years of food?......just in case.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Auto insurance - check, home insurance - check, umbrella - check, first
>>>> aid kit
>>>> - check, MRE's - check, bug out locale - check, gas tank - check, 
>>>> ammo -
>>>> check,
>>>> guns - check, water filtration system(s) - check, alternate cooking
>>>> methods -
>>>> check, alternate fire starter systems - check, storm shelter - check.
>>>> What
>>>> do
>>>> yall think, am I paranoid or just one noid? It can't hurt to take
>>>> preventative
>>>> measures, right?
>>>>
>>>> The Nat Geo show depicts the preppers as real goof balls for the most
>>>> part.
>>>> That's just my opinion but I think many will agree. These are folks who
>>>> have
>>>> gone way overboard, like the one family that has 22 years worth of food
>>>> stored.
>>>> I think that when Nat Geo interview's the prospective folks for the 
>>>> show
>>>> that
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Thanks Mike. Those of us who showed had a good time. I had just hoped for a
better turn out. Kind of silly to reserve the club house when all we needed
was a house. Oh well, we'll see what happens next time.

Gary

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:45 PM, <mikekansascity@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Gary, and your helpers,
> Thanks for your planning & time. I did greatly enjoy the one last year but
> was not able to attend this years.
> Since I don't remember much, more than 10 minutes old anymore, I was
> wondering if the notice any kind of an RSVP? - that might aid those
> planning?
> Anyway.....you did your job - and a great job it was...
> Thank you
> Mike Sterling
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Pittman <yrag1919@...>
> To: ASKC <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 1:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Game Day
>
> It was hardly worth the effort to plan it. We had a total of 8 people show
> p. We played a few games of Backgammon and sat around and talked. I'm
> aking the ham sandwiches we made to the board meeting tonight. Hopefully
> hey will be consumed. I hate to throw food away.
> Clear skies,
> Gary Pittman
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Don Grodecki <don@...> wrote:
> > **
>
>
> How did the game day go last Sunday? I am sorry that we missed it. Is
> there any plan for another one?
>
> - Don
>
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A guy down the street sells food grade 55 gallon barrels. I'm going to get about 3 of them. A few jerry cans would be nice to have too. Thanks George.
Johnny

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:50 PM, george allen <geonjod@...> wrote:

> Hey, Johnny, sportsman guide list brand new, clean Jerry cans so you can put water in them, or anything, 25 bucks. We got 6 of them.
> 
> We use antenna for TV reception and for the past 2 days it has been cutting in and out. Never did before. Wonder if it is the attack from the people that live inside our Sun?
> 
> Anyone else using TV antennas having this problem, or are they just after us? Gotta get more tin foil.
> 
> 


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Reminder from: ASKC Yahoo! Group
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scout group at Powell
Saturday March 10, 2012
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm

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I have a request for a private night sometime during the week next week. I
told them the duty staff was booked but I would ask for a volunteer.

If you want to take a shot at it I will go the same night and train you on
the new operation proceedures for the scope.


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Wow!  The Sun has some really bit spots on it.  There is also a huge 
prominence going on right now.

Joe

Just shut down my solar scope (sun in trees) I will double Joe's commets. 
Sunspot group 1429 and 1430 have great detail. The prominence
is one of if not the tallest that I have ever seen. Great solar observing.
Gil Machin

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Wright" <jos.wright@...>
To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Sun


> Wow!  The Sun has some really bit spots on it.  There is also a huge
> prominence going on right now.
>
> Joe
>
>> 

I have a request for a private night March 16. The duty staff already has a
night.

Any takers?


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Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old daughter
this evening at Powell.  He said he had spent much of the last three years
either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time with
his daughter.  He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
about Powell through a parent's website.  So, he booked a night at a B&B
somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.

 

Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad.  We
started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and a
few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very easy
to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon.  The
Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very nice,
clear and steady skies.

 

They were both very good and interested guests.  He also appeared to be
having a very good time with his daughter.  I can't imagine having spent
that much time away from my own daughter.  I also lost count of how many
times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.

 

Another good night, all the way around.  

 

He leaves for Korea this fall.  

 

Tempus fugit.

 

Rick Henderson



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(Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential Cluster.)

This reminds me of the tale recounted here a few years back of an Afghanistan vet who used some astronomical knowledge acquired from ASKCers at an offsite event to navigate his way out of a tight spot somewhere in the sandbox, possibly saving the lives of everyone in his squad. Can anyone here comment on what star/asterism/constellation-recognition training our guys over there usually get? Would be interesting, to say the least, if we could be helpful to the troops.


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old daughter
> this evening at Powell.  He said he had spent much of the last three years
> either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time with
> his daughter.  He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
> about Powell through a parent's website.  So, he booked a night at a B&B
> somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.
> 
>  
> 
> Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad.  We
> started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and a
> few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very easy
> to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon.  The
> Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very nice,
> clear and steady skies.
> 
>  
> 
> They were both very good and interested guests.  He also appeared to be
> having a very good time with his daughter.  I can't imagine having spent
> that much time away from my own daughter.  I also lost count of how many
> times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.
> 
>  
> 
> Another good night, all the way around.  
> 
>  
> 
> He leaves for Korea this fall.  
> 
>  
> 
> Tempus fugit.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Well, poooo. Another CME is headed our way, this one aimed directly at us.
It should arrive during tonights thunderstorms.


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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
 wrote:

> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume
> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
> Cluster.)


7841 per Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7841


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Interesting.
None of my most used resources go beyond NGC 7840, but per Guide9, there is 
a galaxy at the location shown in Wikipedia.
It labels it as UGC 3413 at 13.5 mag.

Wikipedia does not have any references in this article.

The NGC/IC project page at
http://www.ngcicproject.org/
does not have an NGC 7841 listing.

It kinda looks like somebody slipped something into Wikipedia that is a bit 
dubious, at least without any references it is dubious.

It is surprising that a galaxy that bright got missed in the NGC, but with 
no sources????


Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th


> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> wrote:
>
>> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I 
>> assume
>> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
>> Cluster.)
>
>
> 7841 per Wiki
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7841
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> 

Looks like 7840 is the last one - even NASA's site has an error when
searching for 7841.

http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/nnskcall.pl?Interface=bform&VCOORD=ngc+7841&SURVEY=Digitized+Sky+Survey&SCOORD=Equatorial&EQUINX=2000&MAPROJ=Gnomonic&SFACTR=0.35&ISCALN=Linear&GRIDDD=No&COLTAB=B-W+Linear&PIXELX=600&PIXELY=600



On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Kathy Machin <kmachin@...> wrote:

> Interesting.
> None of my most used resources go beyond NGC 7840, but per Guide9, there is
> a galaxy at the location shown in Wikipedia.
> It labels it as UGC 3413 at 13.5 mag.
>
> Wikipedia does not have any references in this article.
>
> The NGC/IC project page at
> http://www.ngcicproject.org/
> does not have an NGC 7841 listing.
>
> It kinda looks like somebody slipped something into Wikipedia that is a bit
> dubious, at least without any references it is dubious.
>
> It is surprising that a galaxy that bright got missed in the NGC, but with
> no sources????
>
>
> Kathy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
>
>
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I
> >> assume
> >> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
> >> Cluster.)
> >
> >
> > 7841 per Wiki
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7841
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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Found two mentions of 7841 and even 7842.

http://wkaa.net/pdf_files/WKAA%20April%202008%20Newsletter.pdf

books.google.com/books?id=-lO0M9zCRwsC&pg=PA298&lpg=PA298&dq=NGC+7841+galaxy&source=bl&ots=oVUuWBCcer&sig=YTSKTwdZf_b8m_Av4P2dwPbwKZs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BMZbT9WGLIqnsALW75jRDQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=NGC%207841%20galaxy&f=false




On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, IggyKC@... <iggykc@...> wrote:

> Looks like 7840 is the last one - even NASA's site has an error when
> searching for 7841.
>
>
> http://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/nnskcall.pl?Interface=bform&VCOORD=ngc+7841&SURVEY=Digitized+Sky+Survey&SCOORD=Equatorial&EQUINX=2000&MAPROJ=Gnomonic&SFACTR=0.35&ISCALN=Linear&GRIDDD=No&COLTAB=B-W+Linear&PIXELX=600&PIXELY=600
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Kathy Machin <kmachin@...> wrote:
>
>> Interesting.
>> None of my most used resources go beyond NGC 7840, but per Guide9, there
>> is
>> a galaxy at the location shown in Wikipedia.
>> It labels it as UGC 3413 at 13.5 mag.
>>
>> Wikipedia does not have any references in this article.
>>
>> The NGC/IC project page at
>> http://www.ngcicproject.org/
>> does not have an NGC 7841 listing.
>>
>> It kinda looks like somebody slipped something into Wikipedia that is a
>> bit
>> dubious, at least without any references it is dubious.
>>
>> It is surprising that a galaxy that bright got missed in the NGC, but with
>> no sources????
>>
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "IggyKC@..." <iggykc@...>
>> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I
>> >> assume
>> >> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
>> >> Cluster.)
>> >
>> >
>> > 7841 per Wiki
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7841
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
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My copy of The Revised New General Catalogue of Nonstellar Astronomical
Objects ends at NGC 7840. This is copyright 1973 and my copy is the third
printing dated 1976.

Gary

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Kathy Machin <kmachin@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Interesting.
> None of my most used resources go beyond NGC 7840, but per Guide9, there
> is
> a galaxy at the location shown in Wikipedia.
> It labels it as UGC 3413 at 13.5 mag.
>
> Wikipedia does not have any references in this article.
>
> The NGC/IC project page at
> http://www.ngcicproject.org/
> does not have an NGC 7841 listing.
>
> It kinda looks like somebody slipped something into Wikipedia that is a
> bit
> dubious, at least without any references it is dubious.
>
> It is surprising that a galaxy that bright got missed in the NGC, but with
> no sources????
>
> Kathy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "IggyKC@gmail.com" <iggykc@...>
> To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
>
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jay Manifold <jay_manifold@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I
> >> assume
> >> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
> >> Cluster.)
> >
> >
> > 7841 per Wiki
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7841
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>


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Jeesh, doesn't anyone understand astronomical short hand?

 

NGC 8649 is what happens when you combine NGC 869 and NGC 884 late at night
when you're typing and somewhat tired.

 

Or then, maybe I just renamed them so I wouldn't have to remember two NGC
numbers.

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Manifold
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 AM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th

 

  

(Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume
that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
Cluster.)

This reminds me of the tale recounted here a few years back of an
Afghanistan vet who used some astronomical knowledge acquired from ASKCers
at an offsite event to navigate his way out of a tight spot somewhere in the
sandbox, possibly saving the lives of everyone in his squad. Can anyone here
comment on what star/asterism/constellation-recognition training our guys
over there usually get? Would be interesting, to say the least, if we could
be helpful to the troops.

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old daughter
> this evening at Powell. He said he had spent much of the last three years
> either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time
with
> his daughter. He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
> about Powell through a parent's website. So, he booked a night at a B&B
> somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.
> 
> 
> 
> Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad. We
> started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and a
> few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very easy
> to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon. The
> Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very
nice,
> clear and steady skies.
> 
> 
> 
> They were both very good and interested guests. He also appeared to be
> having a very good time with his daughter. I can't imagine having spent
> that much time away from my own daughter. I also lost count of how many
> times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.
> 
> 
> 
> Another good night, all the way around. 
> 
> 
> 
> He leaves for Korea this fall. 
> 
> 
> 
> Tempus fugit.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Sure Rick,  last night I was observing Jupiturn.

On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:

> Jeesh, doesn't anyone understand astronomical short hand?
> 
> 
> 
> NGC 8649 is what happens when you combine NGC 869 and NGC 884 late at night
> when you're typing and somewhat tired.
> 
> 
> 
> Or then, maybe I just renamed them so I wouldn't have to remember two NGC
> numbers.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay
> Manifold
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 AM
> To: ASKC@...m
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume
> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
> Cluster.)
> 
> This reminds me of the tale recounted here a few years back of an
> Afghanistan vet who used some astronomical knowledge acquired from ASKCers
> at an offsite event to navigate his way out of a tight spot somewhere in the
> sandbox, possibly saving the lives of everyone in his squad. Can anyone here
> comment on what star/asterism/constellation-recognition training our guys
> over there usually get? Would be interesting, to say the least, if we could
> be helpful to the troops.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old daughter
>> this evening at Powell. He said he had spent much of the last three years
>> either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time
> with
>> his daughter. He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
>> about Powell through a parent's website. So, he booked a night at a B&B
>> somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad. We
>> started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and a
>> few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very easy
>> to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon. The
>> Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very
> nice,
>> clear and steady skies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They were both very good and interested guests. He also appeared to be
>> having a very good time with his daughter. I can't imagine having spent
>> that much time away from my own daughter. I also lost count of how many
>> times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Another good night, all the way around. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He leaves for Korea this fall. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tempus fugit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Henderson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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And what beverages were involved with this oppositional viewing of Jupiturn?

 

At least mine were right next to each other.

 

Are you sure it wasn't Jupenus?

 

Rick Henderson

 

From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of george
allen
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:44 PM
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th

 

  

Sure Rick, last night I was observing Jupiturn.

On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...
<mailto:rhenderson1%40kc.rr.com> > wrote:

> Jeesh, doesn't anyone understand astronomical short hand?
> 
> 
> 
> NGC 8649 is what happens when you combine NGC 869 and NGC 884 late at
night
> when you're typing and somewhat tired.
> 
> 
> 
> Or then, maybe I just renamed them so I wouldn't have to remember two NGC
> numbers.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Jay
> Manifold
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 AM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume
> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
> Cluster.)
> 
> This reminds me of the tale recounted here a few years back of an
> Afghanistan vet who used some astronomical knowledge acquired from ASKCers
> at an offsite event to navigate his way out of a tight spot somewhere in
the
> sandbox, possibly saving the lives of everyone in his squad. Can anyone
here
> comment on what star/asterism/constellation-recognition training our guys
> over there usually get? Would be interesting, to say the least, if we
could
> be helpful to the troops.
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
> Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old
daughter
>> this evening at Powell. He said he had spent much of the last three years
>> either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time
> with
>> his daughter. He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
>> about Powell through a parent's website. So, he booked a night at a B&B
>> somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad. We
>> started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and
a
>> few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very
easy
>> to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon. The
>> Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very
> nice,
>> clear and steady skies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They were both very good and interested guests. He also appeared to be
>> having a very good time with his daughter. I can't imagine having spent
>> that much time away from my own daughter. I also lost count of how many
>> times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Another good night, all the way around. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He leaves for Korea this fall. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tempus fugit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Henderson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Mine required a very wide field eyepiece.

On Mar 10, 2012, at 5:07 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:

> And what beverages were involved with this oppositional viewing of Jupiturn?
> 
> 
> 
> At least mine were right next to each other.
> 
> 
> 
> Are you sure it wasn't Jupenus?
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> 
> 
> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of george
> allen
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:44 PM
> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sure Rick, last night I was observing Jupiturn.
> 
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...
> <mailto:rhenderson1%40kc.rr.com> > wrote:
> 
>> Jeesh, doesn't anyone understand astronomical short hand?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> NGC 8649 is what happens when you combine NGC 869 and NGC 884 late at
> night
>> when you're typing and somewhat tired.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Or then, maybe I just renamed them so I wouldn't have to remember two NGC
>> numbers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Henderson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> Jay
>> Manifold
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:57 AM
>> To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> Subject: [ASKC] Re: Private Night @ Powell, March 9th
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Since the highest-numbered NGC object previously known was 7840, I assume
>> that NGC 8649 is the Henderson Nebula, or perhaps the ASKC Presidential
>> Cluster.)
>> 
>> This reminds me of the tale recounted here a few years back of an
>> Afghanistan vet who used some astronomical knowledge acquired from ASKCers
>> at an offsite event to navigate his way out of a tight spot somewhere in
> the
>> sandbox, possibly saving the lives of everyone in his squad. Can anyone
> here
>> comment on what star/asterism/constellation-recognition training our guys
>> over there usually get? Would be interesting, to say the least, if we
> could
>> be helpful to the troops.
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:ASKC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick
>> Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Darrick Gray and I hosted a young army officer and his 9-year old
> daughter
>>> this evening at Powell. He said he had spent much of the last three years
>>> either in Iraq or Afghanistan and was try to make up for some lost time
>> with
>>> his daughter. He's currently stationed at Fort Leavenworth, but had heard
>>> about Powell through a parent's website. So, he booked a night at a B&B
>>> somewhere close to Louisburg and then the two of them came out to Powell.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Janice, his daughter, seemed to have a very good time and so did dad. We
>>> started with Venus, then Jupiter, M31, Aldebaran, NGC 8649, M42, M79 and
> a
>>> few more then wrapped up the evening with Mars (Syrtis Major was very
> easy
>>> to spot) and then we all put on sunglasses and looked at the moon. The
>>> Skywalker/Ruisinger worked like a charm all night long and we had very
>> nice,
>>> clear and steady skies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They were both very good and interested guests. He also appeared to be
>>> having a very good time with his daughter. I can't imagine having spent
>>> that much time away from my own daughter. I also lost count of how many
>>> times she said WOW when looking through the eyepiece.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Another good night, all the way around. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He leaves for Korea this fall. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tempus fugit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick Henderson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> ------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

Did you know?

Bruce Wayne and Master Dick Gordon were amateur astronomers interested 
in solar observing.

Useless information for the day.
Joe

75 bucks.  Sounds like a good starter if you don't mind doing a little 
work.

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/for/2895790159.html

The tag indicates 114mm. That's just under 4 1/2 inches. His ad says 6.5"
Sumptin spicius here.

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM, jim s <jws@...m> wrote:

> **
>
>
> 75 bucks. Sounds like a good starter if you don't mind doing a little
> work.
>
> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/for/2895790159.html
>  
>


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Good catch.  Ony the photo and I didn't look at it too closely.  Migth 
not be worth that, since about 100 on craigslist in the last few weeks 
could get you a 4 1/2" one with automation.  I don't think this one is.

sorry
Jim

On 3/10/2012 11:01 PM, David Young wrote:
> The tag indicates 114mm. That's just under 4 1/2 inches. His ad says 6.5"
> Sumptin spicius here.
>
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM, jim s<jws@...>  wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> 75 bucks. Sounds like a good starter if you don't mind doing a little
>> work.
>>
>> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/for/2895790159.html
>>
>>

Take a look at this link if you want to see what can be done with the 
little PST:

http://astrophotophils.blogspot.com/2012/03/solar-imaging-session-march-10-2012.html

Joe

These are really nice, but it takes more than just the PST to get images like these.  The right equipment and a lot of hard work and know how.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: Joseph Wright <jos.wright@...>
>To: ASKC Yahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:35 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] PST Images
> 
>
>  
>Take a look at this link if you want to see what can be done with the 
>little PST:
>
>http://astrophotophils.blogspot.com/2012/03/solar-imaging-session-march-10-2012.html
>
>Joe
>
> 
>
>

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Does that mean I have to keep three gallons of ice cream in the freezer as well as the usual basic food stuff?
Clive



________________________________
 From: johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
 

  
No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There are 
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the 
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, TORNADOES, 
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on. 

Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a 
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an emergency. 
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those 
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen

________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained

  
Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great 
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our 
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum.  Dr. 
Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk he 
particularly wants to hear.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
>
>  
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated 
>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many 
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime 
>>this year.
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 

>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 

>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 

>> > be an issue.
>> > 
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 

>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
>> > date that is critical.
>> > 
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> > 
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
>> > fun.
>> > 
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> > 
>> > Kathy
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. 
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> ------------------------------------
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >------------------------------------
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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>> 
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Yes,
Chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry cheesecake.
And, Hershey's semisweet chocolate syrup.

Kathy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clive Cadle" <clivecadle@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Does that mean I have to keep three gallons of ice cream in the freezer as 
well as the usual basic food stuff?
Clive



________________________________
 From: johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained



No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There 
are
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, 
TORNADOES,
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.

Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an 
emergency.
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen

________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum. 
Dr.
Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk 
he
particularly wants to hear.


Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
>
>
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I 
>graduated
>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor 
>many
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker 
>> sometime
>>this year.
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that 
>> > unambigously

>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days 
>> > from

>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may 
>> > not

>> > be an issue.
>> >
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be 
>> > relatively

>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is 
>> > known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" 
>> > Julian/Gregorian
>> > date that is critical.
>> >
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward 
>> > and
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> >
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I 
>> > am
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be 
>> > great
>> > fun.
>> >
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about 
>> > nobody
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> >
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 
>> > > months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use 
>> > >> the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can 
>> > >> >goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 
>> > >> >> 45
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 
>> > >> >> 2013.
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the 
>> > >> >> world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> ------------------------------------
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >------------------------------------
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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>
>
>
>
>

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Yahoo! Groups Links

Yes you do. Ice cream is one of the basic food groups which you cannot live 
without.

Johnny




________________________________
From: Clive Cadle <clivecadle@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, March 11, 2012 1:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained

  
Does that mean I have to keep three gallons of ice cream in the freezer as well 
as the usual basic food stuff?
Clive

________________________________
From: johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


  
No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There are 
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the 
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, TORNADOES, 
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on. 

Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a 
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an emergency. 
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those 
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen

________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained

  
Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great 
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our 
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum.  Dr. 

Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk he 
particularly wants to hear.

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@photographybydavidson.com>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
> 
>
>  
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I graduated 

>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor many 
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker sometime 

>>this year.
>> 
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that unambigously 


>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days from 


>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may not 


>> > be an issue.
>> > 
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be relatively 


>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" Julian/Gregorian 
>> > date that is critical.
>> > 
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward and 
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and 
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar 
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> > 
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I am 
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be great 
>> > fun.
>> > 
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about nobody 
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> > 
>> > Kathy
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 45 
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 2013. 
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> ------------------------------------
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >------------------------------------
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> 
>> 
>
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Hi all,

I got the following email and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as
to what options she might have for telescope repair.

Rick Henderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Brisendine [mailto:mbrisendine@...] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:59 PM
To: askc_questions@...
Subject: RE: telescope

Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

The telescope is a MEADE LXD-75, 10" (SN-10AT).

We were having trouble getting the focus right per the manual and could
never quite get it aligned as the picture showed.  But then last fall year
it fell off the mount.  The primary tube appears to be ok, but the diagonal
mirror at the focuser tube spins freely and I'm sure that the primary mirror
is completely out of adjustment.  The back access plate to the primary
mirror appears to have come partially unglued as well.

Michelle

Only three gallons? I'd recommend more than just a two week supply of ice 
cream. And having a freezer full of icecream helps your freezer run more 
efficiently. Also, remember to eat dessert first. Life's uncertain.

Jim
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From: "johnny allen" <johnny111846@...>
To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Yes you do. Ice cream is one of the basic food groups which you cannot live
without.

Johnny




________________________________
From: Clive Cadle <clivecadle@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, March 11, 2012 1:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Does that mean I have to keep three gallons of ice cream in the freezer as 
well
as the usual basic food stuff?
Clive

________________________________
From: johnny allen <johnny111846@...>
To: ASKC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained



No Jim, don't drink all of your water or eat all of your stored food. There 
are
many things that COULD happen besides the end of the world according to the
Mayan calendar. Among these, you can include massive earth quakes, 
TORNADOES,
floods, meteor impact, economic meltdown and on and on and on.

Live by the Boy Scout Mottor - BE PREPARED. FEMA says that you should have a
minimum of three days worth of water and food availbe in case of an 
emergency.
MINIMUM is a key word in the previous sentence. What harm can having those
supplies around?

I know you were probably kidding, but stil . . . . . .

Johnny Allen

________________________________
From: Tom Martinez <zenitrammot@...>
To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, March 7, 2012 12:16:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained


Turkey and Dr. Geilker were the main ingredients for some really great
Thanksgiving feasts and talks back in the 1970s and 1980s when we had our
November general meetings a the old Kansas City History and Science Museum. 
Dr.

Geilker drops into to a meeting every now and then, especially if its a talk 
he
particularly wants to hear.


Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/

>________________________________
> From: Brian Davidson <brian@...>
>To: "ASKC@yahoogroups.com" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: [ASKC] Re: doomsday explained
>
>
>
>Is this the same Dr. Geilker that is a professor at William Jewell? I 
>graduated

>from Jewell last spring. Dr. Geilker was also my mom's science professor 
>many
>many years ago.
>
>Small world
>
>Sent from my Verizon iPhone
>
>On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:37 AM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:
>
>> Critical thinking FTW. Also, I hope we'll be hearing from Dr Geilker 
>> sometime

>>this year.
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Machin" <kmachin@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK,
>> > I distrust the leap year thing, in fact.
>> > This is one of those calendar correlation problems:
>> > The first problem in getting a date in the Mayan calendar that 
>> > unambigously


>> > is the same as in another known calendar system.
>> > My impression of the Mayan long count is that it is a counting of days 
>> > from


>> > a specific point, not directly related to solar years. So leap days may 
>> > not


>> > be an issue.
>> >
>> > Going from Julian to Gregorian isn't the problem. That should be 
>> > relatively


>> > easy.
>> > Adding leap years isn't a major problem, if your correlation day is 
>> > known.
>> > It is getting that first clear baktun 12 started on "???" 
>> > Julian/Gregorian
>> > date that is critical.
>> >
>> > From there, converting up to now should be relatively straight forward 
>> > and
>> > not off 7 months.
>> > It should be just adding whatever number of days to the known date and
>> > translating that into Gregorian.
>> > I would think the people who did that intial date setting and calendar
>> > relationship had a clue about leap days. But maybe not?
>> >
>> > So, when somebody on the internet says leap years weren't considered, I 
>> > am
>> > wondering what sources they use to figure this out.
>> > It really would surprise me if it is just that simple. It would be 
>> > great
>> > fun.
>> >
>> > It is a great argument in its way - it sounds good, and just about 
>> > nobody
>> > will do the research to check it out!
>> >
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 7:37 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> >
>> >
>> > > That accounts for 10 to 13 days and the word about. Still ABOUT 7 
>> > > months
>> > > off.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:39 PM, azure drake <azure__drake@...>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> **
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Its all,well and good except we dont use the julian calendar, we use 
>> > >> the
>> > >> gregorian calendar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Jeremy
>> > >>
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 1:12 PM CST Jim Ketchum wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >So I can drink all my bottled water and use up all my stored can 
>> > >> >goods?
>> > >> Good
>> > >> >news.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >JIm
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "David Young" <youngmdavid@...>
>> > >> >To: <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:37 AM
>> > >> >Subject: [ASKC] doomsday explained
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Found on the internet so it must be true!
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> There have been about 514 leap years since Caeser created it in 
>> > >> >> 45
BC.
>> > >> >> Without the extra day every 4 years, today would be July 28, 
>> > >> >> 2013.
The
>> > >> >> Mayan calendar did not account for leap year so technically the 
>> > >> >> world
>> > >> >> should have ended 7 months ago.
>> > >> >>
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I have the same mount only with the 8" version. I will be happy to look mine over to confirm what she is speaking about exactly. Maybe figure out what is broken through comparison. Give her my email if you want (school one.

Darrick

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Henderson" <rhenderson1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I got the following email and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as
> to what options she might have for telescope repair.
> 
> Rick Henderson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michelle Brisendine [mailto:mbrisendine@...] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:59 PM
> To: askc_questions@...
> Subject: RE: telescope
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
> 
> The telescope is a MEADE LXD-75, 10" (SN-10AT).
> 
> We were having trouble getting the focus right per the manual and could
> never quite get it aligned as the picture showed.  But then last fall year
> it fell off the mount.  The primary tube appears to be ok, but the diagonal
> mirror at the focuser tube spins freely and I'm sure that the primary mirror
> is completely out of adjustment.  The back access plate to the primary
> mirror appears to have come partially unglued as well.
> 
> Michelle
>

On display KC, all day March 26, 2012.  Full set of passenger cars.

Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM.  

This is the mighty and photogenic WWII steam engine which has seen constant duty ever since 1944.  It is arguably the most famous railroad engine in all of history, weighing in at nearly one million pounds.  The only way to really appreciate the 844 is to stand next to it when it is "live." 

Feel the heat, hear the heartbeat deep inside the black iron skin, smell the grease and oil, reach out and touch the massive drive wheels.  Only then can you know why I get goose bumps when I hear the deep throated, lonesome whistle as the 844 glides along the steel highway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY

Wow!  What a great video!  I've never seen one zip along that fast.  The person holding the video camera from a moving car did an excellent job.  I wonder if the camera has image stabilization?

 
Tom J Martinez
http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/


>________________________________
> From: george allen <geonjod@...>
>To: askcyahoo <ASKC@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:07 PM
>Subject: [ASKC] UP 844
> 
>
>  
>On display KC, all day March 26, 2012.  Full set of passenger cars.
>
>Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM. 
>
>This is the mighty and photogenic WWII steam engine which has seen constant duty ever since 1944.  It is arguably the most famous railroad engine in all of history, weighing in at nearly one million pounds.  The only way to really appreciate the 844 is to stand next to it when it is "live." 
>
>Feel the heat, hear the heartbeat deep inside the black iron skin, smell the grease and oil, reach out and touch the massive drive wheels.  Only then can you know why I get goose bumps when I hear the deep throated, lonesome whistle as the 844 glides along the steel highway.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
> 
>
>

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I've had several calls and messages today about viewing the conjunction.
Anyone care to go down to Powell?


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Darrick has Powell reserved for tonight for his astronomy class. I'll be down there with him. 



I wouldn't think it should be a problem, but check with him........ 



hmmmmm they need dark skies to see the conjunction???? silly people! 



By the way, I'll leave about 100 copies of the 2012 schedule at Powell for anyone to give out. I'll pu t a PDF copy in the files section (if there's room for it). 



-Scott 



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I've had several calls and messages today about viewing the conjunction. 
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I think 3-15 is the actual conjunction. Of course I could have been misled.
Any of  the next few evenings would do. I won't tell any callers/emailers
to go down u less I have a staff member lined up.
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> Darrick has Powell reserved for tonight for his astronomy class. I'll be
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>
>
> I wouldn't think it should be a problem, but check with him........
>
>
>
> hmmmmm they need dark skies to see the conjunction???? silly people!
>
>
>
> By the way, I'll leave about 100 copies of the 2012 schedule at Powell for
> anyone to give out. I'll pu t a PDF copy in the files section (if there's
> room for it).
>
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> -Scott
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Tom,

Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)

-John C


--- Tom Martinez wrote:
>
> Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
> that fast.� The person holding the video camera from a
> moving car did an excellent job.� I wonder if the camera
> has image stabilization?
> 
> Tom J Martinez
> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> > --- George Allen wrote:
> >
> > On display KC, all day March 26, 2012. 
> > Full set of passenger cars.
> >
> > Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM. 
> > ...
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
> > 

I think the image is somewhat zoomed in, which also makes it look "faster."

--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "skygazer1956" <John.Cravens@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> 
> Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
> 1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
> bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
> car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
> still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
> a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)
> 
> -John C
> 
> 
> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
> >
> > Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
> > that fast.� The person holding the video camera from a
> > moving car did an excellent job.� I wonder if the camera
> > has image stabilization?
> > 
> > Tom J Martinez
> > http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> > 
> > 
> > > --- George Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > On display KC, all day March 26, 2012. 
> > > Full set of passenger cars.
> > >
> > > Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM. 
> > > ...
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
> > >
>

What we see is called "pacing" and you might believe it is dangerous.  I've seen one guy do it alone.  I'd guess this one is from an image stabilized camera, but if the road was smooth, maybe not.

At any rate it helps appreciate these beasts to see all that steel in rapid motion.  This defines "balanced." There have been accidents when the connecting rod (the heavy steel beam that connects the four drivers on each side) breaks or comes off the wheels.  Many times it hits the roadbed then flies upward through the cab, killing the crewman on that side.  

These large steamers made 100 mph on open stretches, sometimes even more.  Today, most RR's limit speed to 79 mph, but in the past, especially during wartime, you did what you had to do.  I have been aboard a modern train at 116 mph and it is thrilling to say the least.

There is a story that UP 3985 once clocked over 130 mph in western Nebraska.  Ask Bob Allen.  

As you watch this video, imagine the cylinder input and exhaust valves opening and closing.  Think about the piston going that fast, stopping dead, then reversing direction.  How can it withstand the forces on it?  We will never see more machines quite like the 844 & 3985.  And that is why I have to be a RR nut.  Aircraft are second.  WWII saw both leap ahead to their pinnacle.  



On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "Jay Manifold" <jay_manifold@...> wrote:

> I think the image is somewhat zoomed in, which also makes it look "faster."
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "skygazer1956" <John.Cravens@...> wrote:
>> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
>> 1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
>> bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
>> car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
>> still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
>> a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)
>> 
>> -John C
>> 
>> 
>> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
>>> that fast.  The person holding the video camera from a
>>> moving car did an excellent job.  I wonder if the camera
>>> has image stabilization?
>>> 
>>> Tom J Martinez
>>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --- George Allen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On display KC, all day March 26, 2012. 
>>>> Full set of passenger cars.
>>>> 
>>>> Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM. 
>>>> ...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
>>>> 
>> 
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I've been in both at 80mph.

The other thing that is impossible to duplicate are the photo runbys you 
get on excursions.  Shame on Amtrak for essentially putting them out of 
business.

There was one by 3985 on a run from St. Louis Amtrak station to Poplar 
Bluff where Steve Lee stopped and let us off midway up a 4% grade.  He 
backed off 2 miles to below the start of the hill, and was up to 50mph 
at the time he went by us.  Made 60miles / hour at the top.  This with a 
1500ton consist.

I really favor 3985 because of the dual drivers.  This runby was by far 
the best demonstration of that I have ever seen or heard.

I was carhosting on one of these they did thru the middle of Washington 
Mo, and it was great from a dome car, but being outside and hearing the 
drivers ast they started was just awe inspiring.  Being buzzed by high 
speed aircraft is a close second, but as George says, I think steam 
trains  win.
Jim

On 3/13/2012 3:20 PM, george allen wrote:
> What we see is called "pacing" and you might believe it is dangerous.  I've seen one guy do it alone.  I'd guess this one is from an image stabilized camera, but if the road was smooth, maybe not.
>
> At any rate it helps appreciate these beasts to see all that steel in rapid motion.  This defines "balanced." There have been accidents when the connecting rod (the heavy steel beam that connects the four drivers on each side) breaks or comes off the wheels.  Many times it hits the roadbed then flies upward through the cab, killing the crewman on that side.
>
> These large steamers made 100 mph on open stretches, sometimes even more.  Today, most RR's limit speed to 79 mph, but in the past, especially during wartime, you did what you had to do.  I have been aboard a modern train at 116 mph and it is thrilling to say the least.
>
> There is a story that UP 3985 once clocked over 130 mph in western Nebraska.  Ask Bob Allen.
>
> As you watch this video, imagine the cylinder input and exhaust valves opening and closing.  Think about the piston going that fast, stopping dead, then reversing direction.  How can it withstand the forces on it?  We will never see more machines quite like the 844&  3985.  And that is why I have to be a RR nut.  Aircraft are second.  WWII saw both leap ahead to their pinnacle.
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "Jay Manifold"<jay_manifold@...>  wrote:
>
>> I think the image is somewhat zoomed in, which also makes it look "faster."
>>
>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "skygazer1956"<John.Cravens@...>  wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
>>> 1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
>>> bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
>>> car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
>>> still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
>>> a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)
>>>
>>> -John C
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
>>>> Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
>>>> that fast.  The person holding the video camera from a
>>>> moving car did an excellent job.  I wonder if the camera
>>>> has image stabilization?
>>>>
>>>> Tom J Martinez
>>>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --- George Allen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On display KC, all day March 26, 2012.
>>>>> Full set of passenger cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
>>>>>
>>
>>
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The friend that I invited and who has agreed to be one of the speakers 
at the 2012 HoASP will be on a cable program tomorrow night.  Up here in 
Antenna TV Land, we don't have cable or sat. tv.

I would appreciate it if someone could record this for Rita and I.  The 
message I received is below.

Thanks,

Joe


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Hi Everyone:

If the rumors are true, Larry Lebofsky will have his 15 seconds of fame this
Wednesday on the Science Channel. The show is "Sahuarita" which shows at
8:00 and 11:00 EDT (it is 5:00 and 8:00 in Tucson).

Hope you enjoy.

DVD OK?

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "ASKC Yahoo" <ASKC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: [ASKC] Antenna TV


> The friend that I invited and who has agreed to be one of the speakers
> at the 2012 HoASP will be on a cable program tomorrow night.  Up here in
> Antenna TV Land, we don't have cable or sat. tv.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone could record this for Rita and I.  The
> message I received is below.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
>
> *********************************************
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> If the rumors are true, Larry Lebofsky will have his 15 seconds of fame 
> this
> Wednesday on the Science Channel. The show is "Sahuarita" which shows at
> 8:00 and 11:00 EDT (it is 5:00 and 8:00 in Tucson).
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
> 

844 was in KC last fall. Definitely worth going to see if you get a chance. The size of this thing is breathtaking up close. Also UP 3985 was in KC back in 2010. It's even bigger. I shot this video of 3985 as it was departing on the tracks alongside Kaw Drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8nFSfX5Jwg&feature=g-upl&context=G279c198AUAAAAAAAAAA


--- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, jim s <jws@...> wrote:
>
> I've been in both at 80mph.
> 
> The other thing that is impossible to duplicate are the photo runbys you 
> get on excursions.  Shame on Amtrak for essentially putting them out of 
> business.
> 
> There was one by 3985 on a run from St. Louis Amtrak station to Poplar 
> Bluff where Steve Lee stopped and let us off midway up a 4% grade.  He 
> backed off 2 miles to below the start of the hill, and was up to 50mph 
> at the time he went by us.  Made 60miles / hour at the top.  This with a 
> 1500ton consist.
> 
> I really favor 3985 because of the dual drivers.  This runby was by far 
> the best demonstration of that I have ever seen or heard.
> 
> I was carhosting on one of these they did thru the middle of Washington 
> Mo, and it was great from a dome car, but being outside and hearing the 
> drivers ast they started was just awe inspiring.  Being buzzed by high 
> speed aircraft is a close second, but as George says, I think steam 
> trains  win.
> Jim
> 
> On 3/13/2012 3:20 PM, george allen wrote:
> > What we see is called "pacing" and you might believe it is dangerous.  I've seen one guy do it alone.  I'd guess this one is from an image stabilized camera, but if the road was smooth, maybe not.
> >
> > At any rate it helps appreciate these beasts to see all that steel in rapid motion.  This defines "balanced." There have been accidents when the connecting rod (the heavy steel beam that connects the four drivers on each side) breaks or comes off the wheels.  Many times it hits the roadbed then flies upward through the cab, killing the crewman on that side.
> >
> > These large steamers made 100 mph on open stretches, sometimes even more.  Today, most RR's limit speed to 79 mph, but in the past, especially during wartime, you did what you had to do.  I have been aboard a modern train at 116 mph and it is thrilling to say the least.
> >
> > There is a story that UP 3985 once clocked over 130 mph in western Nebraska.  Ask Bob Allen.
> >
> > As you watch this video, imagine the cylinder input and exhaust valves opening and closing.  Think about the piston going that fast, stopping dead, then reversing direction.  How can it withstand the forces on it?  We will never see more machines quite like the 844&  3985.  And that is why I have to be a RR nut.  Aircraft are second.  WWII saw both leap ahead to their pinnacle.
> >
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> > On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "Jay Manifold"<jay_manifold@...>  wrote:
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> >> I think the image is somewhat zoomed in, which also makes it look "faster."
> >>
> >> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "skygazer1956"<John.Cravens@>  wrote:
> >>> Tom,
> >>>
> >>> Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
> >>> 1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
> >>> bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
> >>> car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
> >>> still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
> >>> a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)
> >>>
> >>> -John C
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
> >>>> Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
> >>>> that fast.  The person holding the video camera from a
> >>>> moving car did an excellent job.  I wonder if the camera
> >>>> has image stabilization?
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom J Martinez
> >>>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> --- George Allen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On display KC, all day March 26, 2012.
> >>>>> Full set of passenger cars.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM.
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
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Jim:

Yes.

Thanks,

Joe

When one day the U. P. decides keeping two antique steamers is too expensive, seeing a real tea kettle will be much tougher.  Let your kids experience them while it is easy.

 I was lucky.  I lived right along the right of way of the Chicago & Eastern Illinois RR when they were running coal fired locomotives, Chicago to Miami. Then I joined the Air Force and got a ride to Atlanta then to San Antonio on a Super G Connie with an open cockpit, so I walked in and chatted with the crew and no one cared.

 Then got sent to my first post on an all night ride on a steam passenger train, right thru KC.  That's all ancient history to anyone born after 1970.  Nice footage, Alan.

On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:38 PM, "Alan Lehman" <alehman@...> wrote:

> 844 was in KC last fall. Definitely worth going to see if you get a chance. The size of this thing is breathtaking up close. Also UP 3985 was in KC back in 2010. It's even bigger. I shot this video of 3985 as it was departing on the tracks alongside Kaw Drive.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8nFSfX5Jwg&feature=g-upl&context=G279c198AUAAAAAAAAAA
> 
> 
> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, jim s <jws@...> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been in both at 80mph.
>> 
>> The other thing that is impossible to duplicate are the photo runbys you 
>> get on excursions.  Shame on Amtrak for essentially putting them out of 
>> business.
>> 
>> There was one by 3985 on a run from St. Louis Amtrak station to Poplar 
>> Bluff where Steve Lee stopped and let us off midway up a 4% grade.  He 
>> backed off 2 miles to below the start of the hill, and was up to 50mph 
>> at the time he went by us.  Made 60miles / hour at the top.  This with a 
>> 1500ton consist.
>> 
>> I really favor 3985 because of the dual drivers.  This runby was by far 
>> the best demonstration of that I have ever seen or heard.
>> 
>> I was carhosting on one of these they did thru the middle of Washington 
>> Mo, and it was great from a dome car, but being outside and hearing the 
>> drivers ast they started was just awe inspiring.  Being buzzed by high 
>> speed aircraft is a close second, but as George says, I think steam 
>> trains  win.
>> Jim
>> 
>> On 3/13/2012 3:20 PM, george allen wrote:
>>> What we see is called "pacing" and you might believe it is dangerous.  I've seen one guy do it alone.  I'd guess this one is from an image stabilized camera, but if the road was smooth, maybe not.
>>> 
>>> At any rate it helps appreciate these beasts to see all that steel in rapid motion.  This defines "balanced." There have been accidents when the connecting rod (the heavy steel beam that connects the four drivers on each side) breaks or comes off the wheels.  Many times it hits the roadbed then flies upward through the cab, killing the crewman on that side.
>>> 
>>> These large steamers made 100 mph on open stretches, sometimes even more.  Today, most RR's limit speed to 79 mph, but in the past, especially during wartime, you did what you had to do.  I have been aboard a modern train at 116 mph and it is thrilling to say the least.
>>> 
>>> There is a story that UP 3985 once clocked over 130 mph in western Nebraska.  Ask Bob Allen.
>>> 
>>> As you watch this video, imagine the cylinder input and exhaust valves opening and closing.  Think about the piston going that fast, stopping dead, then reversing direction.  How can it withstand the forces on it?  We will never see more machines quite like the 844&  3985.  And that is why I have to be a RR nut.  Aircraft are second.  WWII saw both leap ahead to their pinnacle.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2012, at 4:42 PM, "Jay Manifold"<jay_manifold@...>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think the image is somewhat zoomed in, which also makes it look "faster."
>>>> 
>>>> --- In ASKC@yahoogroups.com, "skygazer1956"<John.Cravens@>  wrote:
>>>>> Tom,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looks like it probably does. For a brief time (about
>>>>> 1:34 to 1:42), a part of the car is visible. It is
>>>>> bouncing around as you would expect from a speeding
>>>>> car on a highway, but the camera image is perfectly
>>>>> still, rather than moving around with the car. Just
>>>>> a thought; it may or may not relate to reality. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -John C
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- Tom Martinez wrote:
>>>>>> Wow! What a great video! I've never seen one zip along
>>>>>> that fast.  The person holding the video camera from a
>>>>>> moving car did an excellent job.  I wonder if the camera
>>>>>> has image stabilization?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tom J Martinez
>>>>>> http://tomjmartinez.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --- George Allen wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On display KC, all day March 26, 2012.
>>>>>>> Full set of passenger cars.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Arrives the day before, late, departs the day after 8 AM.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spy63l2o4XY
>>>>>>> 
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I forgot a folder with Astro-Quest forms and log sheets down at Powell tonight (Tuesday night) . 



If you find them, put them up by the sign-in sheet and I'll get down there to pick them up the next time someone is there. Please don't throw them away. 



Thanks! 

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Existing Key holders I will have a training session on the new control system this sunday at 11:00 am. If you don't think you can make it to the April 14th training party or have duty before that this would be a good time for a quick run through. 

I will be at Powell at 11:00am this sunday training existing keyholders. If would like to start or continue your training come on down.